The Padres have placed veteran lefty Rich Hill on waivers, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post. They’ll see if another team wants to claim southpaw — and the remaining $817K on this year’s $8MM salary in the process. If Hill goes unclaimed, he can remain with the Padres. They don’t have to outright him to a minor league affiliate.
Hill, 43, was acquired from the Pirates alongside Ji Man Choi prior to the trade deadline but hasn’t performed as hoped. In seven appearances with the Friars, he’s logged a 9.27 ERA, yielding 23 runs over the life of 22 1/3 innings. He was far more serviceable in Pittsburgh, where he logged a 4.76 ERA in 119 frames over the season’s first three months. Hill isn’t missing bats like he used to, with a below-average 19.6% strikeout rate against a slightly higher-than-average 8.9% walk rate.
It hasn’t been Hill’s best season, but he’s only a year removed from starting 26 games for the Red Sox and turning in a 4.27 earned run average with a slightly improved 20.7% strikeout rate and a sharp 7% walk rate. He wouldn’t be postseason-eligible with a new team, as players are required to be in their organization prior to Sept. 1 in order to qualify for that distinction. Still, a team in need of some innings down the stretch could certainly look to Hill as a veteran stopgap. He’s also voiced a desire to continue his career into 2024 — his age-44 season — so a quick stint elsewhere in the season’s final three weeks could serve as an audition of sorts for next year.
Hill’s recent performance and remaining salary give him a good chance at passing through waivers. However, if a team were to claim him, he’d have the potential to make some anecdotal history. The Padres are the 13th team of Hill’s career, placing him one shy of Edwin Jackson’s oddball record of 14 teams. If a new team claims Hill, he could tie Jackson’s mark and perhaps pass it this offseason, though that’s surely not of great consequence to him. (Immaculate Grid players, on the other hand, would surely welcome the record.)
In 379 career games dating all the way back to 2005, Hill has pitched 1400 1/3 innings, logging an overall 4.01 ERA with an 89-73 record, 23.9% strikeout rate and 9.1% walk rate. A new team and a potential offseason deal to come back for a 20th Major League season would give him a chance at topping 1500 innings and 100 wins in a career that’s been as lengthy as it has unusual.
Hemlock
“Oh, we’ll claim him!”
—Nobody
DBH1969
@Hemlock.. Chaim Bloom may have sudden interest now that Hill is officially in the dumpster
Hemlock
I understand Rich Hill’s desire to keep doing what he enjoys. You do you, man. Play until they tell you to go home.
I don’t understand teams’ interest in the 43-year old version of him. Let him go. 1 year too early is much better than 1 year too late. And maybe this is it for him.
Another pitcher that has had a good career but definitely stuck around 1 year too long.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Point taken, the Braves will have to make that decision for 2024 on Morton. it’s a crap shoot.
SonnySteele
Just as the Jets took a chance on a 39-year-old Aaron Rodgers and lost him for the season 25 seconds into the first game.
SonnySteele
I’ve liked Rich Hill ever since he came up with the Cubs. He had the curviest curve ball I’d ever seen.
YourDreamGM
Hill was excellent for the Pirates. Can’t believe the prospects the Padres gave up for him. Wouldn’t want him back next year for anything over 3 or 4 million. Would be a last resort but someone might be desperate enough. Minor league deal absolutely.
VegasSDfan
Someone please claim him. Dodgers?
Fever Pitch Guy
Hemlock – I totally agree. Nobody is faulting Hill for doing what he does, which is collect a paycheck that he doesn’t come close to earning. It’s silly to blame any athlete for that reason. Instead it’s the front office people who supported the contract that should be blamed. He was actually deserving of a contract this year, but the amount he received was ridiculously high and probably based on “peripheral stats” crap as usual.
A couple months ago I posted here that it would be quite stupid for any contending team to trade for Hill. I explained that players his age have often lost it quite fast, and that his second half numbers were very bad, and that pitchers his age tend to wear down physically toward the last couple months of the season. Most people agreed, some unfortunately did not.
As big a failure as Bloom has been, I give him credit for not drinking the Blister Boy Kool-Aid yet again this year. What a massive overpay Hill has been this year, almost as bad as Kluber.
Fever Pitch Guy
Curly – Besides being much younger, Morton has also performed much better than Hill over the past few years. Not a good comparison in my opinion, I’d be on board with Morton signing with the Red Sox for the right price … but I know he likely wouldn’t have interest in doing so.
Fever Pitch Guy
DBH – Now that Bloom is no longer pretending to want to win this year, there’s no need for him to acquire a very old pitcher on an expiring contract. It would be a waste of money, better off playing the kids and scrap heap pitchers that are already on the Red Sox.
GASoxFan
Fever – I’m not saying there IS, just questioning IF there is, any potential benefit Hill could give to working with the youngsters for the 800k or so it’d cost.
A month of mentoring and coaching the younger guys at the cost of DFAing some scrap heap reliever and toss hill in the same relief role.
Goku the Knowledgable One
Hill was good locker room presence for any locker room
but as far as being a mentor , we’d have to judge him on pirates other pitchers
… so that’s a branch we’re not going to tug on today lol
rct
He was a serviceable number five starter before going to the Padres. Plus he’s been pretty durable the last three years. I don’t think anyone will claim him due to the price tag, but I could see him getting a one year cheap deal next year if he wants to keep going. Teams need *someone* to eat innings. I mean, look at Jordan Lyles’s contract for proof of that.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Chaim Bloom on line 1
jt33nym
Genuinely curious as to why some teams are doing this lately. In the grand scheme of things, does saving only $817K matter that much to a team?
YankeesBleacherCreature
The money is inconsequential but, if claimed, it allows the team to free up a roster spot and try out someone else from the Padres’ pwrspective.
zippytms
Padres might be that close to a CBT threshold where it would matter.
jt33nym
Ah, ok, that would make sense if they’re close to the CBT
baseballteam
Or CBD
websoulsurfer
CBD would take some of the pain of this season away.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Yes it’s a roster spot for the Padres but it’s also respect to the veteran. They know he wants to pitch again next year and it’s not working out in San Diego maybe he can regroup and pull it together as an audition the last couple weeks? The club will release him to help make that a possibility.
DBH1969
It is only a savings if somebody picks him up before end of season. Otherwise, they eat all the money
bjhaas1977
I hope Dick Mountain sticks around for another season!
Buff Barnacles
Where could you see him playing the rest of the month?
CrikesAlready
He’s more like Roughroad Rich at this point…
geg42
He maybe has 10 innings left in the tank.
I would be pleased if he proved me wrong though.
Kayrall
So the Edwin Jackson meme is alive and well with Rich Hill’s career?!
tjmacari
Maybe my A’s can actually win something, like a waiver claim! Crap they are actually 1/2 a game “behind” the Royals!
Not a clever name
I’m sure they can win $25 in free play by signing up for the players card at MGM
Kenneth Powers
The Dodgers could use him right now. And they also have a fair chance of getting better outings from him than the Padres did.
CrikesAlready
TRUTH!
Kenneth Powers
The Padres are a disgrace. A.J. Preller needs to be fired.
Franklin Souze
Well….it could be worse — You could be a Red Sox fan and stuck with the Chime Bloom front office clown act.
Rick Wilkins
Why though?! He’s made so many moves to put his team in position to win, several years in a row now. He didn’t tell Tatis to take drugs, he’s certainly not swinging the stick for Machado, or throwing for Darvish. He went and got Hader, who has been ridiculous this year. He got Soto, who is close to 5.0 WAR for the season. Down by his standards, but he’s still played pretty well this year. Ha-Seong Kim is quietly putting up a 6.0 WAR season. Breakout SS. Snell is probably the CY or at least runner up (Steele). Saying fire the GM after all this dude has brought to San Diego, is a pretty lazy take.
rct
I agree that Preller has assembled a good team. But something is just not clicking. Coaching? Player development? Who knows, but they’ve got to do something this offseason.
CrikesAlready
8 shortstops and 6 corner outfielders wanna know why too!
YourDreamGM
Preller assembled a weak team. Gave Machado that awful opt out and doubled down and paid him again for his worst years. Old Darvish got extended. Paid Xander for his inflated Fenway stats. Crone. Preller did a better job of building Cleveland Pittsburgh Seattle than San Diego. He can build a farm system. Makes MLBTR fun. But one of the weaker gms overall.
BaseballisLife
So how many teams made the playoffs 2 of 4 seasons?
Longtimecoming
Dream – those Seattle Cleveland and Pirates (really we got Joe from Pirates so why include them), are not really playing the longer they go.
France was the best of all and he has really nose dived each year – sure still young and may rebound but right now his stock is down like his place in the batting order.
Quantrill – not a lot so far due to injuries, same for Naylor (hits when healthy but 0 defense).
YourDreamGM
Not hard to make playoffs spending 200 250 million. Yet teams fail. Said he was weak, not awful. 2 out of 4 though. Should be 4 out 4 with that payroll and prospects traded. How did he do before that? How’s the future look? Not as good as ATL LA who spend $ the smart way. Not the worst gm but in the bottom half. 2 out 4 years. Yankees Braves Rays Dodgers Astros Cardinals etc fans will have a good laugh. 2 out 4 years.
Musgrove was a solid trade for SD. But for 2 years of him the Pirates got 6 years of a starting catcher and closer. Frazier was no loss whatsoever and they got 6 years of starting center fielder and a utility man. Love the Hill trade return. Few other pieces tbd. AJ helped Pirates rebuild tremendously.
AJ did decent with trades. Still doesn’t take away how other teams did. Those 3 just unloaded their trash.
BaseballisLife
Tell that to the Yankees and Mets.
So exactly how many teams made the playoffs 2 of the last 4 seasons?
YourDreamGM
No idea. I really only notice teams that make the playoffs just about every year like Cardinals Astros Braves Dodgers Rays Yankees. Cleveland Oakland Giants Cubs Brewers Nationals had some nice stretches. Don’t pay much attention to what mediocre flash in the pan 2 out of 4 years teams do. People tend to remember the winners. Oh wait I got 1 I think. White Sox are one of those 2 of the last 4 years wonders you are so impressed by. Didnt Adam Sandlers ex gf new bf that old guy in big daddy have a 2 out of 4 years plan?
YourDreamGM
I won’t be telling the Yankees anything. They have 27 world series championships and haven’t had a losing record since 1992. They don’t care about your lil 2 out 4 seasons trophy.
Longtimecoming
Suwinski – OPS + 98 and 111 for 2 years and you are already crowning him your CF for 6 years?
Rodriquez – actually came from Mets but since the trade and he has a 63 ops +so you crown him your steering C for 6 years?
See Ty France and Quantrill – who actually started out really good and has now now dived for why you shouldn’t count your chickens.
Bednar is working out for sure but sometimes you have to trade quality to get quality and well, Padres needed a front line starter more than a possible late inning guy that wasn’t quite ready with a lot of upside.
Okie Dokie.
YourDreamGM
If Quantrill Taylor never play another game Cleveland made out like bandits. I predict they will play more games. Pittsburgh the same. Suwinski Rodriguez look promising going forward. Would have already looked much much better if they were on a team with better player development. When Pittsburgh trades them to Tampa we will find out what they are truly capable of. Again not bad trades for SD. Just really nice for Cleveland Pittsburgh. Even Seattle. That year or 2 of France Munoz production got them to be winning team.
nosake
Yeah, I’m leaning toward the bench. Bob Melvin could be a good manager somewhere, just not in San Diego. Wrong chemistry or something. I’m thinking the Padres need a technical manager who can make spot decisions, especially with pitching.
BaseballisLife
If you don’t know, why are you commenting on it?
Go back to cheering on those perpetual losers in Pittsburgh.
YourDreamGM
I’m a grown man with my own achievements. I don’t cheer for other men. Nothing wrong with those who do. Only team I ever cheered for was the Yankees and I haven’t done so for over a decade. And I never commented or claimed to know about mediocre 2 out of 4 seasons teams.
jimbobsjorts
2 of 9. Don’t try to dishonestly misrepresent the true facts to suit your purpose.
websoulsurfer
PissPoorGM, even with the expanded playoffs, you can count the teams that have made the playoffs 2+ of the last 4 seasons on your fingers. That means Preller is one of the better GM’s in the game the last 4 years.
websoulsurfer
In the years prior to 2020 the Padres were 23rd, 25th, or 29th in MLB in spending.
Only in 2020 did Preller start to get substantial money to spend on player payroll. In the 3 completed seasons since then, the Padres have made the playoffs twice. In the NL, only the Braves, Brewers, and Dodgers can say they have done that. The Padres also made the NLCS once.
Obviously, they won’t make it this year, but if you are counting them out in 2024 you are making a huge mistake. Preller has proven that given the resources he can put a playoff team on the field.
mlbdodgerfan2015
By the time he’s done he would have put the team in a really bad decision with the bad contracts given out. All GMs can look good when given the green light to acquire MLB ready players and shell out the bucks. Anyone can do that in the short term but to do it strategically and efficiently that’s not Preller.
Longtimecoming
I guess he could have signed Urias and Bauer instead?
mlbdodgerfan2015
Nope, Urias is a free agent and Bauer was on a short term deal, which I don’t think Preller knows about. Seems to like handing out long term contracts to everyone including scrubs like Cronenworth.
TheMan 3
What does it say about the Padres that Hill was a better pitcher for the Pirates
YourDreamGM
Nothing other than they made a bad trade. He got worn down or just small sample size. Not like their pitching coach messed him up or anything. At 43 he is what he is.
Franklin Souze
KNOCK-KNOCK !…..Hi I’m Chaim Bloom and do I have a deal for you…….
MacGromit
@mlbdodger
“*All* GMs can look good when given the green light to acquire MLB ready players and shell out the bucks.”
how’s the full greenlight GM working out for the Mets? when we say things like all/never, we’re “always” wrong. lol
websoulsurfer
Or the Yankees?
Paleobros
Oh heck yeah. Please let a new team claim him. The record is within sight!
Clofreesz
He needs to break the “most teams played for” record.
Hired Gun 23
We didn’t get the best version of Rich Hill. We took a shot and it didn’t work out, no big whoop. Is Tim Hill under contract for next season?
BaseballisLife
Looks like he is still arbitration eligible.
baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/san-diego-padres-…
Hired Gun 23
Dammit…
tangerinepony
Dick Mountain has pitched for 13 teams!! He needs to keep pitching for a few more years for a few more teams
OKBaseballFan
I still have to respect him for striking out over 7 batters per 9 at 43. That is impressive for a guy as old as him
YourDreamGM
With a 87 88 89 mph fastball.
comebackcub
Cubs should claim
DonOsbourne
Cardinals with a chance solve one of their 3 starter spots. Convince Waino to come back for one more, beg Jon Lester to make a comeback, and BAM! Problem solved!
MacGromit
@DonOsbourne
I’m sure that Bartolo Colon has kept his body game ready. Cards should ink him to a comeback deal.
DonOsbourne
Only if it’s cheap. He’ll have chip in on the post game spread. No free lunches in St. Louis.
MacGromit
yeah, I’m sorry he’s certain to need both St Louis gooey butter cake and Drewes frozen custard written into his contract. you don’t have his girlish figure without a lot of work and dedication.
angryaggie
Hope he goes to a team that either the Astros or Twins will see again before seasons end.
BaseballisLife
I can hear the Padres fans cheering all the way from my Florida. What a waste of a prospect he turned out to be.
YourDreamGM
Tremendous prospect. Most 4th round picks won’t give you a single war or even make the show.
websoulsurfer
Wolf is the Pirates #12 prospect and he is pitching in Altoona. AA.
Padres also got Choi in that trade. Another disaster.
kma
Immaculate Grid! The new timesuck to my work productivity.
cubfanforever
Rich Hill has won 89 games in 19 years. How he keeps getting gigs is beyond me.
YourDreamGM
He can take the ball every 5 days and give you 5 innings or more with 4 runs or less more times than not.
Fever Pitch Guy
cub – Want to know how? All you need to do is read DMC’s article from last December, as always “peripherals” apparently matter more than results. Even though Hill’s stats such as WHIP went up 7 consecutive years from 2016-2022, apparently those results are not as important as HHR and Exit Velo. There’s a lot of stupid in the game these days …
“he’s still found ways to be effective, as his hard hit rate was in the 79th percentile this year and his average exit velocity in the 56th”
mlbtraderumors.com/2022/12/pirates-rich-hill-in-ag…
twinky
Rich Hill……Dick Mountain…..
Fever Pitch Guy
twinky – Too bad Dick Pole was never Hill’s pitching coach.
alwaysreal
Fake news! He’s pitching against the Dodgers right now lol
davidh-7
He did!
P N Protocol
Hill has earned -0.9 bWAR*, in just 24.1 innings with the Padres. The 9.25 ERA (per Baseball Reference; 9.27 in this story) is frightening. It may not be the worst performance of all time with a new ball club, but it deserves to be in the conversation.
*I could not find his WAR split on FanGraphs for fWAR.