With less than seven hours to go until the trade deadline, the Tigers hold a pair of key starting pitcher cards in southpaw Eduardo Rodriguez and righty Michael Lorenzen. Yesterday morning, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale said the pair would “definitely” be traded, and this morning MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand said the Tigers are “expected to trade” both.
Asking prices appear to be high, according to Feinsand, though we rarely hear asking prices described any other way. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic says the same, after talking to rival executives.
The Dodgers “are in hot pursuit” of Rodriguez, according to Jon Heyman of the New York Post. Jack Harris of the L.A. Times spoke to “multiple people with knowledge of the team’s thinking unauthorized to speak publicly,” and then wrote yesterday that the club’s Plan B after Justin Verlander “could be” a pursuit of Rodriguez. Harris said the Dodgers “had maintained interest” in E-Rod as of Monday afternoon. The Dodgers added Lance Lynn to their embattled rotation in a trade with the White Sox a few days ago.
Never a team to sit on the sidelines with good players available – even five games out of the wild card – the Padres are “said to be high” on Rodriguez and “could make a push” for him, reports Feinsand. The Padres seem to have some level of interest in Verlander as well, according to Heyman.
Rodriguez, 30, owns a 2.95 ERA on the season with a 25.9 K%, 6.0 BB%, and 40.5% groundball rate. He missed all of June with a left index finger pulley rupture. He’s pitched to an unpleasant 5.66 ERA in four starts since returning from the injury, but his peripheral stats were in line with his season marks and two of the four starts were solid. Though Rodriguez is scheduled to take on the Pirates tomorrow at PNC Park, he may have already made his last start in a Tigers uniform.
Rodriguez is owed about $4.67MM this year and $49MM from 2024-26, but he’s generally viewed as a rental given the likelihood he opts out of those final three years after the season. While all opt-out clauses represent downside risk for an acquiring team, things would have to go quite badly for E-Rod in the next two months for him to forgo the clause.
The Orioles, who traded Rodriguez to the Red Sox in a significant deadline deal for Andrew Miller nine years ago, are a potential suitor for both Tigers starters. Last week, Feinsand named a slew of teams that had been scouting Rodriguez. Some have since acquired a starting pitcher, but others included the Reds, Phillies, and Diamondbacks. On the topic of the Reds, Cody Stavenhagen of The Athletic wrote of “whispers Monday” about Cincinnati “being a suitable destination for Rodriguez.”
Lorenzen, 31, is a pure rental with about $2.8MM left on his contract, plus possible $250K performance bonuses for innings benchmarks. Lorenzen represented the Tigers in the All-Star game, though he’s never been a strikeout pitcher. He has seemingly turned a corner with some of the best control of his career, though his peripheral stats generally don’t support a 3.58 ERA. Lorenzen has a 3.96 mark over his last nine starts, and something in that range would likely match a buyer’s expectations. The Marlins, Orioles, Astros, and Rays have been linked to Lorenzen, but the Rays have since added Aaron Civale.
LABeachguy
Exact opposite of Avila. Al would pull the trigger on the first team that called him with an offer.
Seamaholic
Offers don’t necessarily get better the closer you get to deadline. This is a tricky market. Looks like a seller’s market so far, but I think that will pull in some unlikely sellers and create a last minute cratering of offers for teams that have been trying to build bidding wars for their guys. I think yesterday was the sweet spot.
Airo13
Not really. Avila sat on his hands last year and got basically nothing late for Fulmer and Grossman, not trading Chafin and Soto.
jawinks
Better get that All Star premium in the trade return for Lorenzen!
mikep2k
The lack of supply and surplus of demand are going to result in an overpayment for these two. I think if the O’s can put a package together for both, it could round out the rotation nicely and allow some of the younger guys to pitch less. I don’t want to make a stupid trade though. You can’t pay too much for two #3 starters.
King Floch
“Lorenzen to the Orioles” is where I will place my pile of chips. Seems like an Elias move- a modest but firm upgrade that won’t break the bank or tie him down going forward.
southi
In my opinion Lorenzen seems to be a possible fit for the braves. The cheaper of the two to acquire, but a solid veteran who could add to their depth AND has experience in the bullpen if one of Atlanta’s younger pitchers outperform him.
weaselpuppy
ERod and McKinstry for Vargas…Git R Done!
Landini
What do we want with Vargas? We have better options than him in the minors.
weaselpuppy
Vargas is a lock Harris guy, huge OBP and big power. He struggle bussed it on his callup this year but he has been in the top prospects in the game lists for over a year before his callup, and ranked ahead of Keith a as a 3b prospect. His minor league career slash line is .313/.390/.488. and he has been rated a 60 hit tool across many scouting sites. He would be a big get.
Landini
No thank you. Everyone has a good slash line in the PCl.
StreakingBlue
Nope
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What happened to Verlander to the Dodgers? ERod must be hurt. The Dodgers will surely get him then.
vivalosdoyers
Probably too high an asking price for a 40 yo with that contract.
ActionDan
I highly doubt the Mets will trade JV after a half season. Their expectation was to win and the roster constructed as is obviously didn’t work out for them. So they’ll trade whoever they can minus JV, Alonso and Senga and start over in the winter.
User 2079935927
Hot Pursuit?? Is Buford T Justice running the Dodgers??
What we have here is a complete lack of respect of the trade deadline period…..
This one belongs to the Reds
Or Roscoe P. Coltrane.
weaselpuppy
Kew kew kew…
White Sammy Sosa
Go get em’ Flash!
dbdmack
When I get home, I”m gonna punch yo’ mama right in da mouf.
DCartrow
And if he was after Alex Manoah, he’d be in hot pursuet.
Bobcastelliniscat
Wished they had cremated the sumbitch
thefaithfulfriar
Winslow when we get home I’m gonna punch your mama right in the mouth
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Friedman better sober up & flip Lynn to the Red Sox for Justin Turner. Looks like JD Martinez is hurt. Can’t believe Friedman traded for Lynn.
cah011381
Who are the Dodgers not in hot pursuit of?
desertdawg
Heard a report that the Padres are a surprise team locked in to the Verlander possible destination. Has anyone else heard this.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Hope the Padres get E-Rod or Verlander. I hear they’re THIS close to getting it all together!
Jake Emmett Miller
They got DICK MOUNTAIN….. aka Rich Hill …… LMAO! Classic Padres!
ThonolansGhost
I still think that Rodriguez, Lorenzon, Cisnero and Shreeve will be traded today, even if they are running out of time. I just hope Harris can make some good deals.
TroyVan
Tigers are gonna get one of the Dodgers catching prospects. Straight up would be Rushing, but could a blockbuster be made by adding players and getting Cartaya? 3 way deal maybe?
Landini
Is Cartaya above the Mendoza line this year?
TroyVan
I don’t know, but he’s ranked as their #1 prospect.I based my comment solely on that.
Jake Emmett Miller
Cartaya is having a real down year as far as offense goes.
l9ydodger
I would rather see the Dodgers keep Rushing over Cartaya. Diego is really struggling against AA pitching this year. Something to be concerned about? If he has #1 talent in the Dodgers system he should be raking against AA pitchers! He’s been down the whole season. Rushing so far looks like a much better hitter. I’m willing to gamble & sell high on Cartaya, if he still has value, along with something like Gonsolin or Lynn or Stone & Taylor to get Dylan Cease, Mitch Keller or L. Gilbert plus one other player.
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Have the Giants done anything yet❓
Jake Emmett Miller
I guess this is why they call them RUMORS. Ken Rosenthal Has reported that Detroit has pulled E-Rod from the trade block. ??????
TroyVan
Ken has not reported this on his Twitter or his Athletic “latest” article.
filihok
2023 K%+, BB%+ xFIP-
Verlander 94, 93, 104,
Rodriguez 111, 70, 84
Rodriguez has well outpitched Verlander so far
I’m in.
gotigers68
As long as we don’t get beads, trinkets or magic beans, but get someone who can help us in the near future, I’ll be happy !
TroyVan
I’d actually take a good TV broadcaster not named Shep.
gotigers68
You’ve been spoiled by Harwell and Kell.
TroyVan
Yes. No complaints about Mario either. I really liked Josh Lewin, too. Unfortunately, he was too good for a single market. He ended up on the national broadcasts.
Tiger22matt
Lorenson just went for a top 5 prospect in the Phillies organization. If I’m the Reds I’m out on Rodriguez he isn’t worth nowhere near that price for a rental.
sportsfreak52
The Reds had better go get a pitcher or two, their rookies have put them in first and it would be an insult to the rookies if ownership did not go out and get them any help!
Either reward the rookies for playing so well with a couple of good pitchers or sell the dang club to some owners who aren’t afraid to spend some money to win. Votto even comes off the books next year, leaving your payroll at next to nothing in 2024, ownership better act like they care about winning or they’re going to lose what few loyal fans that they have left!!
This one belongs to the Reds
They decided to insult the young players and fans.
I hope they don’t lose the clubhouse due to their ineptitude. If so, we all know whose feet it lies at.
cguy
“Acting like you care about winning” and trading assets for “rental” players are not the same thing. Far from it. There are 2 teams from New York, which spent a combined $625 MM approximately on payroll this year and to date (8/3/23) have produced a 106-109 record. The 2 Ohio based teams have spent about a third of that amount on payroll (about $180MM total) and have a combined record of 112-107. Frankly, in the Reds case trading assets and boosting payroll on rental players would probably have been counterproductive to their future competitiveness.
sportsfreak52
The Reds had better go get a pitcher or two, their rookies have put them in first and it would be an insult to the rookies if ownership did not go out and get them any help!
Either reward the rookies for playing so well with a couple of good pitchers or sell the dang club to some owners who aren’t afraid to spend some money to win. Votto even comes off the books next year, leaving your payroll at next to nothing in 2024, ownership better act like they care about winning or they’regg going to lose what few loyal fans that they have left!!
sportsfreak52
Either reward the rookies for playing so well with a couple of good pitchers or sell the dang club to some owners who aren’t afraid to spend some money to win. Votto even comes off the books next year, leaving your payroll at next to nothing in 2024, ownership better act like they care about winning or they’regg going to lose what few loyal fans that they have left!!
sportsfreak52
Either reward the rookies for playing so well with a couple of good pitchers or sell the dang club to some owners who aren’t afraid to spend some money to win. Votto even comes off the books next year, leaving your payroll at next to nothing in 2024, ownership better act like they care about winning or they’re going to lose what few loyal fans that they have left!!
sportsfreak52
Either reward the Reds’ rookies for playing so well with a couple of good pitchers or sell the dang club to some owners who aren’t afraid to spend some money to win. Votto even comes off the books next year, leaving your payroll at next to nothing in 2024, ownership better act like they care about winning or they’re going to lose what few loyal fans that they have left!!