The Angels are activating outfielder Mike Trout from the injured list, reports Rhett Bollinger of MLB.com. Trout tells Sam Blum of The Athletic that he’s still sore but felt time was running out as the end of the season draws closer. The Angels have now officially announced the move, with outfielder Jordyn Adams optioned to Triple-A Salt Lake in a corresponding move.
Trout, 32, had his season interrupted in early July by a left hamate fracture that required surgery to correct. At that time, the estimated timeline for his absence was given as four to eight weeks. He now returns in the midst of that window but, as mentioned, he’s not yet at 100% health.
Despite losing Trout, the Angels ended up treading water in July, going 12-11 and staying in the playoff race. That was enough to convince the club to not only take Shohei Ohtani off the trade market but also make aggressive upgrades, acquiring players like Lucas Giolito, C.J. Cron, Randal Grichuk and others, as well as promoting Nolan Schanuel just a few weeks after drafting him. Unfortunately, August has been a nightmare for the club, as they have gone 5-13 and are now nine games out of a playoff spot.
As Trout himself acknowledged, time is running short for the Angels to take advantage of the Trout-Ohtani combo, with the latter set to reach free agency in a couple of months. The playoff odds at FanGraphs give them just a 0.5% chance of making the postseason and that narrowing window seems to have spurred Trout to return quicker than he might have otherwise done. Despite having two of the best players in the world on the same team, the Angels haven’t finished above .500 since 2015 and haven’t made it to the playoffs since 2014.
The club will be hoping that the return of Trout to the lineup can spur a miraculous late-season charge in the final few weeks. Prior to the surgery, he was hitting .263/.369/.493 for a wRC+ of 136. That indicates he was 36% above the league average hitter but that’s actually a significant drop-off relative to his own standards. He hasn’t had a wRC+ lower than 160 since his 40-game debut as a teenager in 2011. Though even if he can get back to that lesser level of production, he will provide a massive boost to the club for the stretch run.
Wow he’s back !!
Too late. Why risk further problems by rushing him.
Risk what? The hamate has healed albeit not fully. He can field and run just fine.
And doctors said he can’t do any more damage.
Just a pain tolerance thing at this point. Not my words…Mike’s
Risk what? The hamate has healed albeit not fully.
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Didn’t you just answer your own question? There doesn’t appear to be much upside.
Joe, he really didn’t. There is no downside. Just because something hurts, it doesn’t mean you can damage it further through normal activity.
Go watch the end of Miracle again. Even if you blow it off as fiction, it’s still worth watching again.
@JoeBrady likes to be a contrarian. Trout’s hand has been in a cast for weeks with no activity. Now he’s ramping back up quickly to play pro sports. Of course, there will be soreness/pain. Doesn’t take a genius to deduce that.
And how well did that comment age?
If you’re smart enough to figure that out, don’t you think Trout and his doctors are too?
Rapidly becoming non-essential
So in other words! There’s fish in the water! We’re eating good tonight!
HERES BRUCIE!!!!
I’m so happy the Angels went all in at the deadline. Now, they’ll:
1. Miss the playoffs.
2. Get nothing Ohtani.
3. Get nothing for the prospects they wasted on rentals.
As an Astros fan, all I have to say is, “Angels, keep doing what you’re doing.”
Seriously? The trashstros fan take on this is they get nothing for Ohtani?
What did the Trashstros get for Verlander?
They got negative 2 players. They were such geniuses they let him walk and traded back for the player they let walk. in less than one season
I am glad you an Astros fan and not an Angels fan. My head hurts now.
Are you like 10 years old? That would explain it.
Have you seen how much of the Verlander contract was paid down? It’s not a bad deal at all.
However, I understand your bitterness and hatred. You have the two best players in baseball in their prime with zero playoff wins. It’s embarrassing.
Ohtani will look great in a Dodger uniform in the playoffs.
@astros_fan_84 Quit trolling while you’re conveniently forgetting that the Astros traded their top #1 and #4 prospects to aquire JV.
We’ll see how those prospects pan out. They are corner outfielders two years away. I think it was a great deal considering that Steve Cohen paid down about half the JV contract. (I don’t remember the exact numbers.)
Angelsfan1972
What did the Trashstros get for Verlander?
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Does getting a WSC count?
Seriously, those two are in no way comparative. The Angels gambled (and I agreed) on getting the final WC. The Astros had a decent shot at the WS. It is not even close to the same thing.
I am not really sure what you mean here Joe.
I was comparing the fact that he/ she was stating the Angels let Ohtani walk and get nothing, when the Astro’s did that exact same thing letting Verlander (or others) walk.
I know they won it all. I guess that maybe your point. But my point is it has happened on their side of the fence as well.
I understand wanting to respond to AF84’s trash comment but
The Astros obviously decided that having Verlander for 3 years and $122 million wasn’t as good as having him for 2..3 years and $40.5 million plus the value of the players that they traded away.
If you’re going to try to attack someone, you should do so with a logical argument.
Both are in AA and may get a call up in September.
Angels let Ohtani walk and get nothing, when the Astro’s did that exact same thing letting Verlander (or others) walk.
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The difference is that the Astros were the co-favorites to win a WS. The Angels were an underdog to even make the playoffs.
FWIW, I had no problem with the Angels trying to make a run this year (they should’ve traded him in ’22), but the Astros keeping Verlander and the Angels keeping Ohtani are poor comps.
I doubt anyone on here is ten years old, but if they were, it would mean that they’ve lived their entire lives without being able to see Mike Trout in the playoffs.
My point was more directed at: don’t come in and talk trash on a team you don’t root for. Baseball is very cyclical the Astros won’t be at the top forever, enjoy the view in front of you and quit looking in your rear view mirror Astro fans. It is inevitable, you will drop down and have to rebuild at some point.
I have no issue with fans doing it within their own threads, but there is no need to troll and stir it up on other fanbases threads.
By the way filihok, I wasn’t attacking. I was responding. LOL
Yeah yeah I know it is a feeble attempt to defend myself, but it’s all I got.
You’re right. It’s basically when people start throwing out the trashstros comments that I let out a few barbs. I tbink the Astros will be good for a while as long as they continue to churn out minor leaguers from nowhere and avoid too many Jose abreu esque contracts. 2006-2014 were tough years for Astros fans.
What about those trashstros cheaters.
Is that a question or a statement? At this point, Altuve and Bergman are the only two hitters still on the team. Feel free to boo at laundry.
The Angels could probably have made a huge haul for Ohtani. Nobody knows what other teams were willing to part with, but it would certainly have been expected to be huge and the Angels farm system is poor. That said, the team went all in for a last chance.
The Angels are likely done at this point as Seattle and Texas have emerged as long term threats to replace the declining Astros. Trout is one of the greatest players of all time and Ohtani is on his way, but even the two of them can’t carry that franchise. Now, Trout is likely exiting his prime and has limited trade value with that monster contract. The Angels knew it was a long shot to make a run in the near future and they went all in on it. It backfired.
The Angels should start the total rebuild this offseason as they’re not going to be competitive for the next 3 years.
You can add the names of all the teams in the division…
was.
This guy sneezes and breaks his meniscus
FYI…you can’t break a meniscus. That is just like saying you broke a piece of paper.
So he sneezed and got beaten to a pulp then.
DC….Nice try but I think you swung and missed.
the joke was good, and now it’s better
It was a weak joke, and got weaker with the attempted fix.
At least they tried.
Here is your participation trophy.
He sneezed and then politely wiped his nose with a tissue.
Wait, am I doing this right?
Too little too late should have traded Ohtani and built up the farm system instead of getting it for a 4th place finish. May as well trade Trout in the winter and go the Oakland As route because they will be contending for a division before the Angels will.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. They were just a few games back at the deadline and went for it. And they can’t trade Trout.
I said that at the trade deadline lol.
I said that before the trade deadline
I said it during last off-season now to be honest I was wanting Ohtani to get traded to my braves but I did say the Angels should trade him to get something for him because he is going to be gone in the off-season.
Well I think the Braves should trade Acuna, Olson, Albies, Strider and Fried
Thanks for playing let’s make a trade
Knowing what the Angels know now, they should have traded him. The Angels got hot at the exact wrong time.
But the team couldn’t predict the wheels would come off, they had to go for it.
Good lord, so tired of hearing “fans” everywhere clamoring to trade once in a generational talents for “prospects”. Very, very rarely do the prospects ever match the talent of a HOF type player traded in his prime.
Exactly! Anyone remember who the Tigers got for Verlander???
LOL…Love your handle,man! Y’all must be a “mature” Halos fan!
Anyone remember who the Orioles got for Bundy. The AL ERA leader.
And the Reds just promoted an Uber prospect they received for Castillo.
Most thing are balanced.
Bundy and Castillo are far from being HOF caliber players.
When does turning blue chip stock into lottery tickets not work out?
Tom Seaver
Randy Johnson
Ichiro
Justin Verlander
Braves can’t afford 6/$162 million for Freeman but they are going to magically pull out 10/$600 million. Dream on Martin Tupper!
So, your hypothesis is that trading worse players nets better prospects?
filihok give him a minute. He is still looking up the meaning of the word hypothesis
The Angels had an abysmal record against teams with winning records and an August schedule full of games against teams with winning records.
Not saying I called the wheels coming completely off but I did write in many pieces that I thought our hot streak last month had a lot more to do with the schedule than our talent level.
And they still got the AL ERA leader.
The Ms got Randy Johnson for Mark Langston…. Is that what you meant?
They were 5 back of the final wild card spot when they made them deals.
Within reasonable striking distance with the most number of players acquired, an offense that was scoring 7 runs per game average and Trout, O’Hoppe and other players due to return. Going for it was defensible.
They were ahead of the Ms.
So is reasonable foresight
“hindsight is a wonderful thing”…….”The Angels would be committing baseball malpractice if they don’t trade Otani at the deadline” – MLB Network’s Steve Phillips, July 28th, 2023………..It is not exactly “hindsight” when MANY people were saying the Angels hadn’t shown anything on the field to suggest they were playoff contenders or to merit “going for it:.
But they WERE showing plenty on the field! They were a few games out with several players set to return. It’s reasonable to debate but keeping Ohtani was plausible. Saying it’s “baseball malpractice” is just silly.
Once they got hot, there was no way they were going to trade Ohtani.
Its Steve Phillips. He got fired and never even sniffed another job in the game. Him and Jim Bowden. Anything they say is baseball malpractice.
They were only saying what fans wanted to hear. One of the problems with the argument against them going for it is that there’s a reason teams sign and acquire key players in the offseason and at the trade deadline…
Just like every other in sports. Making money is the #1 priority for all business owners.
Trout and his contract are currently untradeable.
Agreed, Braves. Angels bought some magic beans and will lose their golden goose. Giving the Angels credit for “going for it,” when in reality it was a blatant & basic act of poorly timed desperation, in misplaced praise.
Over/under on games he’ll play before they shut him down? 15?
It’ll depend how loud the applause is in his first home game at-bat. If it pales in comparison to Ohtani, he’ll be back on the IL.
40 or however many games they have left in the season. Moreno wants every ticket sold possible and Trout draws fans even when the team is out of playoff contention.
Oops. 1 game.
I don’t think so. How many tickets do you decide to buy in late August, if the team is not in contention? I don’t know the true number, but I’d guess that most tickets are bought in the pre-season, and for non-contenders, almost nothing in August & September.
I’m from NY, and I cannot imagine anyone buying Yankee or Mets tickets right now.
…for now
rare to see a team do less w more
The Mets will accept that challenge
Padres on line 3.
Try the 95-2001 Mariners doing less with more!
What a waste of a career. Signing a long term deal for a team that simply never will be in a position to compete for the highest honours made little sense at the time of inception and makes less sense with each passing year.
He’s this generations Craig Biggio. Great player on sucky team.
I only wish I could waste my career in such a fashion.
Some guys still like the idea of playing their whole career with only one ball club. It’s more rare these days, but still happens.
Also, when your comfortable with your playing situation, like where you live, and feel you’ve been treated fairly through your playing time, why would you want to go somewhere else?
He’s pretty well HOF bound, ring or not. And you never know what the future will bring.
GaSoxFan, for sure! Baseball is different from all Sports. You’re a freaking LEGEND without a Championship. Look it up tards, it happens more than you think. Then again, this Trout kid is not done. He just might quiet you in a hurry. With or without Ohtani, if they spend the money, they will play with any team next year.
Bottom line: this Angels team has way more talent than a couple teams that may make it. Injuries suck, that’s sports.
Welcome back Mike Trout! I am hoping this starts a streak! Make this season somewhat respectable.
Who sits now? Renfroe and Girchuk are walk away FA, do you take away playing time from Moniak to play both of them?
I know Trout and Girchuk are still good friends so he may be easier to bring back next year. Play Moniakas much as possible to see what you got. Renfroe plays to give days off and occasional DH.
I agree, they have to see about Moniak. A month ago he looked like a core piece, now it looks like the league caught up to him.
And it is up to Moniak to make further adjustments, or be relegated to being a 4th out fielder.
You don’t accidently hit .300 for a big part of the season.
Moniak is nothing.
“You don’t accidently hit .300 for a big part of the season.”
Of course you do. Well, no you. Or I. But the most talented baseball players in the world, yeah.
You can for a while. Just for a rough estimate, take a players BABIP, subtract his career BABIP (or .300 if has only a small amount of career ABs), double that and add it to his OPS. That’s his adjusted OPS.
In this case, he had a 1.000 OPS thru with a .439 BABIP. (.300 -.439) * 2 +1.000 equals .722.
His hitting since then (28 games) is unbelievably bad with one HR in 106 ABs, and a 45/4 K/W.
He never looked like a core piece. His first 125 ABs produced great results, but the production with those peripherals was unsustainable. .
A BABIP better than Ty Cobb. A 1o to 1 K to BB rate. A 33 percent k rate.
The BABIP has normalized and the other stuff has gotten worse.
And you do accidentally hit 300 for 125 ABs. It happens all the time.
still waiting for your response Halo11Fan….
How is hoping for the best for a player who has not yet stepped on a big league diamond, “looking through rose colored glasses”?
Way to pick apart a statement Halo11(non)fan
I forgot you are the all mighty who knows everything about everything.
No you do not accidently hit .300 in 125ABs. It take an immense amount of skill for any of these players to even take the field. Now if we were talking about Adell. You’d be telling us he will get there, just give him time.
and….I started the statement saying he needed to make adjustments, or he would find himself as a 4th outfielder. It seems someone accidently forgot to read the whole statement. I wouldn’t expect anything less from you.
By the way . You may want to check your math skills. He was hitting .300through 230 ABs
Being critical of a pos who doesn’t have unrealistic expectation is looking through rose colored glasses.
I don’t think he’ll ever steal 20 bases either.
He had one minor league home run a handful of extra base hits and he doesn’t hit the ball hard. So sue me that I think he’ll settle in at 10 to 12 HRs
You really do have issues.
In Aug Moniak is hitting 138/153/224.
1 bb 28 Ks with a k rate of almost 50 percent.
Nuff said.
Once again you are way off the mark. You bend the truth and I am calling you out on it. You were talking about YOUR own profile on Schanuel
Here is what I said.
I was not saying it was an insult to call him a punch and judy hitter.
Shouldn’t every hitter take advantage of their home ballpark?
His profile is elite in that he has shown, thus far, he has a great eye, It definitely warrants the Angels taking him and hoping he carries it throughout his career. Every single person drafted is a HOPE. There is no such thing as a sure thing.
My opinion is a true Halo fan would have a lot less pessimism on a prospect. I know I am a glass half full person, but I think it is a lot more fun to cheer for the player, then it is to look for potential flaws.
Wow…missed again. I am talking about 3 months and you are talking about 21 days.
Wasn’t it you who said .300 in 125ABs?
I also said (more than once) that he needed to make adjustments.
You may want to edit that. It is nonsensical.
And no one said anything about SBs. So I guess I am telling you, you are wrong
Go back and reread what I first said. Not once did I say he was a star.
Your rage gets in the way of insightful thinking.
Damn! 2 Angels fans going for blood with each OTHER over their OWN player! And I thought Mariners fans were easily triggered!
@Angelsfan1972
Yeah I don’t get the name-calling. It seems users here have a hard time having civil debate without the vitriol.
Halo11Fan: 100
Moniak always look like a platoon player with too many strike outs.
I am beginning to think the same thing.about Moniak But do they play him ahead of Grichuk AND Renfroe? Or do they see what he can do and let the other 2 platoon the rest of the year?
I would play him. The other two, you know you you got with them.
Moniak sits against all LHP. His .114 platoon split, 35% strikeout rate, and his pedestrian 88 mph exit velocity scream 4th OF.
It’s a little too quiet today,so let me stir up some “discussion(controversy)”!
Mike Trout is this generation’s Fred Lynn!
Wait for it…3,2,1…
I see where you are going with this.
Trout’s #s already surpassed Lynn’s so not exactly apples to apples
Nah, he is healthier than Fred was. Trout will be a Hall of Famer. Lynn was an amazing player, but not at this level.
All these haters chiming in. LOL
Haters gotta hate
Unfortunately the Angels and Trout brought a lot of this upon themselves. Best way to quiet them is to produce.
I don’t know that anyone “hates” the Angels. Typically a team needs to be good once in a while to be hated.
Nice double entendre there.
Hate/ diss/ bag on …same thing
It’s not really the same thing, but most of the non Angel fans who come on an Angel thread to bag on the Angels are Jerks.
And any Angel fan who goes on a Padres or Mets thread and bags on those teams are jerks.
It never stops…lame!
Why don’t we hear how the Yankees are wasting Judge and Cole. Padres wasting thier whole team?
Should i go on?
You all sound like a bunch of jealous kids who want Trout and Ohtani on your team.
This article isn’t about Judge or Cole, and neither have been Yankees since 2011
This article isn’t about Ohtani either!
2011? I don’t get it. Neither Trout or Ohtani on the team then either..
So good, M.C. Homer
What is it that playing in Anaheim causes a disproportionate percentage of their players to suffer major / lingering injuries?
There was a phrase in the early 80’s – “Anaheim, where quality MLB players go to die”.
I don’t normally believe in the paranormal.
Hard to ignore what is going on again and again here though
I do believe in the paranormal, so thumbs up for at least mentioning it….
Waaaay too many p’s have failed there….weird.
Anaheim is beautiful? I guess. If you are into concrete and Cholos.
Too Late.
Moreno knows nothing about running a successful MLB team. He should have traded Ohtani & Trout last year for proven ready players and prospects. Now Ohtani will walk away and Trout has established himself as injury prone, a risky acquisition.
The only way Trout can be traded is if Trout approves it. He was N E V E R going to be traded last year.
I agree that they should have traded Ohtani. I think these huge contracts are boat anchors to the MLB clubs. Look at the Yankees all those massive contract and in last place in the East. I am willing to bet it is 10 to 1 on contracts of 7-10 years that the players being productive even 80% of the life of the contract. vs “the Pulols effect.
It isn’t just Moreno. Look as San Diego. They had the best farm system going and as soon as they sniffed success they traded away everyone and skyrocketed payroll, but look more like the Yankess vs the Braves.
But hey…it is THEIR money afterall.
Moreno made $35 million in international sponsorships and an extra 10% or more in ticket sales by keeping Ohtani this season. Did you all forget that baseball is a business?
Who Arte Moron-o
A player doesn’t need to be productive for more than 80% of a contract for it to be a good contract for the team.
It’s amazing (sad) how many people don’t understand basic finances.
It’s like buying a car. When you buy a car you’re paying, say, $750 a month for a BRAND NEW car. By then end of the loan you’re paying $750 a month for a 6 YEAR OLD CAR – what a rip off – you could get a new car for that.
Everyone wants to talk about how a player “isn’t worth” his contract during the final seasons, but they never want to talk about how the players outperform their contracts in the beginning.
Ignorance?
Bootlicking?
Brainwashed by capital holders?
That all depends on the contract and the age. My formula is that you need as many prime years as non-prime years. if you sign a 28 year old for 10 years, you will have maybe 4 prime years, 2 declining years, and 4 poorer years. That’s fine.
When you sign guys like Rendon, you only get two, maybe three good but not great years. It’s like that almost all the time.
That said, I like the car comparison. What I used to tell people was on the oil changes. If you paid $50 for a three-month oil change, the remaining value after 10 weeks is probably a lot less than 3/13 * $50. You might as well change it one week too early.
Well look at this…nice of you to join us Mike! All us Halo fans are cheering and holding our breathes at the same time. Hope he stays healthy and helps to get us in a better spot. Can’t me much worse…unless he gets hurt again or reinjures his hand.
Usually players returning from hammate injuries initially have a loss of power when they return.
Can anybody corroborate that this hamate injury is more typical for golfers? True?
If so, maybe Mike should lay off swinging that Golf Club anymore
Fingers crossed. Hope that Trout and Ohtani combine for 30 more HR winning 30 of their last 37 games.
I’ll have what he’s having
No man, his smoke is laced!
….sounds like skunk and bad chinese….?
Ohtani is going nowhere.
You’ll see…
Agreed, he’s staying in LA … Dodgers.
You seem so sure..goes against what I’ve heard..Sounds like you have better inside info than me..
I have no inside info of any kind, but something in my gut tells me he’s staying also.
I’m Shohei Ohtani. Nice to meet you. The guy that states “Ohtani is going nowhere / You’ll see” is critical of others conviction? Only you may be certain. Got it. Have a good night, Homer. “You’ll see” – Dodger blue. Ohtani is a competitor, he doesn’t fit with the Angels.
I can tell you that the amount of Asian businessmen coming in large groups to the stadium is awfully abnormal. I’ve only seen this activity when a company is looking to add investors or sell…
“Asian businessmen” – right. They can get tickets to Dodgers games, too. No problem.
Padres brown. Matches his eyes better
We will all see the Dodgers out of the playoffs after the first round
Mike Trout returns from his annual hiatus. Should have traded Ohtani – massive mistake.
Nope. Ohtani is more than just a baseball player, he is a marketing cash cow.
The Angel brand is so huge in Japan, they’d be really foolish to let that investment and cash flow go.
Arte isn’t that dumb.
It’s how he made his money
Arte Moreno? The guy that’s been giving away big money to washed-up players as a rule? Wells, Pujols, Cozart, Hamilton, Rendon, etc. The owner that couldn’t find a way to win despite having Trout & Ohtani? The owner that tried to sell the franchise a few months ago? Moreno’s meddling is a significant factor in the Angels eternal mediocrity.
Let’s be real, you trade Otani you will never get equal value back. At this point if you sign him for 500 to 600 million dollars you are certainly not going to get baseball related value back. You might make some back in marketing.
So in that way of thinking perhaps your Dodgers are way more smarter than the Angels, right?
Signing Otani will become the biggest albatross we have seen and it sounds just perfect for the Angels. And there’s your perfect “FIT”
Enough. This is about Trout today
Padres FIT too
“Enough” and “you’ll see” – telling phrases. Have a good night, Homer. Ohtani in Dodger blue – Ohtani has had “enough” and “you’ll see.”
Trout’s laughable calculus for returning this season: He can’t let Ohtani have the stand-alone glory of the rest of the season tonCEMENT the fact that he’s the best Angels player ever and having the best Angels season ever.
Trout has been and will always be a postseason absentee.
So……………..
Are you saying Trout is going on a tear and hitting 30HR’s in the last 37 games to take away from Ohtani?
Ohtani has had three great seasons to Trout’s 9.
Nice attempt to stir things up but I think you need to try a little harder. Right now we are just sitting in the stands wondering who the goofball (briar patch) is that ran out onto the field
That’s such an imbecilic take. Few people in this game deserves respect like Mike Trout.
Oooh. The taek is so fire.
So Trout had surgery and made it back early, but Rendon fouls one off his shin and he’s on the 60 day?
Trout is not coming back early, it’s about the expected time.
Rendon hit a ball off his leg so hard it caused the bone to bleed. What’s the time frame on that?
Scott Boras is the greatest player agent on the planet and I would never want my team to buy his players. He got over half a billion for Rendon and Strasburg after the world series
Schanuel, Trout, Ohtani.
The top of this order is fun. Add to that, O’Hoppe, and there is more fun.
I also predict Schanuel will win several gold gloves. All optimistic opinions regarding his future are valid. All opinions short of hall of fame enshrinement make you a fake fan
I would love to see the Angels get hot now and still make the playoffs and even make a run. It would be great to see all the drooling from the braindead trolls who come here to poop,.
Then again, I am a dreamer, but I’m not the only one.
I think holding onto Ohtani was defensible. They had won 8-9 recently, and were only 4.5 games back of 1st. Fool’s gold maybe, but you can’t always be selling.
That said, both he and Trout should’ve been traded. They were playing .422 on 7/31/22, and a decent-sized payroll, and in no way looked like they were going to be a .550 team in 2023.
I think the Angels hoped they would continue their run. They didn’t
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
“That said, both he and Trout should’ve been traded.”
edit-in 2022
Moniak is going to be a star as well. Over the last 30 years I’ve reviewed all players with a 32 pct KRate and a 6 to 1 K to BB rate who have a war over 1.
Listed below are those players.
None.
But Moniak with his 36% KRate and 11 to 1 K to BB rate, will not only be the first, but is going to be a star.
Anyone who has a different opinion is a fake Angel fan.
Halo11fan I can see why no one likes you
You say you’re going to mute someone. Then you play childish games poking fun.
There are people who like me. 🙂
But I agree, my comments are childish. But it is absurd if I express balanced or skeptical opinions of players, then I’m a fake fan
I’m being childish to make a point. It’s equally childish that my posts have to be all rainbows and unicorns or I’m a lesser fan. It’s absurd.
And if I have to have all the objectivity as someone pushing an agenda to be liked, then I’ll suffer the consequences. I don’t want to write posts like I’m CNN or Fox News. I’d rather be honest.
I would disagree with them being balanced.
I read the war of words between you both. I guess I am wondering why you felt you would mute someone, then continue to poke fun?
I found it entertaining up until that point. Then you lost me.
I gave a 300/400 upside comment about Schanuel, and because I don’t believe he’ll ever slug, my opinion is unbalanced.
If he even slugs a little at 300/400 he’s a borderline hall of famer.
How optimistic do people want me to be?
Are people upset because he has a weird profile to be drafted so high?
What I so offensive?
I was referring to your muting and then continuing to make comments directed to the person you said you were muting.
That comes across as unbalanced
I had not taken anyone’s side on the matter. That was between you two. There is no need for you to push your opinion on me.
That was childish. which I completely agree with. My later comments were to make a point.
There is nothing I could have written as actual comments which would have produced a non-insulting response.
Lord knows I tried.
Just to add, Rod Carew. 328/398/429
Wade Boggs 328/415/453
Tony Gwynn 338/388/459.
Boggs and Gwynn were not taken early. Carew was before the draft.
It’s absurd anyone was offended that I wrote 300/400 but i doubt he’ll slug.
Ichiro 311/355/402.
The fact that you continue to push your point of view says all I need to know.
By your own admission you muted the person. Yet you keep pushing your point of view.
You are the person who always has to get in the last word and you refuse to accept there is a possibility that some people see it differently.
You are coming across a lot worse than your counterpart ever was.
Ok.
I’m the only person who has multiple post about a specific point of view.
I’m unique.
Oh my gosh.
I am confused as heck. I don’t think I said anything about multiple posts.
People may find this interesting. Schanuel is number 1 on the team in sweet spot contact, and next to last in distance. Naturally he’s dead last in launch angle.
My fear is they are going to try to change that swing, and he’ll lose that contact and OBP.
Some people think he will change that swing to get more lift without sacrificing what he’s great at. I think they are wrong. I believe If the Angels screw with him, a lot of things will suffer.
Let him be him. I hope the Angels didn’t draft him 11th in hopes he would become a different kind of player.
Welcome back Mike. Welcome to the end of our August and nightmare season. Hopefully you can help the team’s next 20 games not end with a 6-14 record like the last 20 did.
Can you convince Arte to sell? He might listen to you.
Heck yes 14-6 sounds good.
There is still time for a respectable finish.
Schanuel can hit 10 dingers
Rengifo can play Gold Glove SS
Moniak will steal 15 bases
Is that me just looking thought be rose colored sunglasses though?
That is actually kind of funny.
But I said I wouldn’t take sides.
I think I would be happy if Schanuel hit 2 dingers with a .270 BA and .700 OPS.
I would be elated as well
But the profile of a 1b #11 pick dictates he has to hit more.
Not in his first month in MLB. Next season we should expect more, but not for the remainder of this season.
I have no issue with your neutrality Halogirl.
Too late. Angels are done for this year.
I love the way Schanuel handles ABs.
Just read Trout is headed back to IL. Not certain if it’s legit as I haven’t been able to confirm anywhere.