In rather stunning news, the Angels are promoting first baseman Nolan Schanuel to the Majors less than six weeks after selecting him with the No. 11 overall pick in the 2023 draft, reports Peter Gammons. It’s a rare and extremely aggressive promotion as the Halos, whose all-in push at the deadline has yielded underwhelming results thus far, try to bolster the lineup and keep their dwindling playoff hopes alive in Shohei Ohtani’s final season of club control. Schanuel has played in 21 minor league games (topping out at the Double-A level) and batted a combined .370/.510/.493 with 21 walks and just 10 strikeouts in 96 plate appearances. His promotion is now official.
Schanuel, 21, was regarded as the most MLB-ready bat in the draft, although a promotion to the big leagues in mid-August shatters even the most aggressive timetables pundits might’ve put on his potential ascension. The 6’4″ first baseman posted borderline farcical numbers at Florida Atlantic University, batting .386/.516/.698 in his college career — including a preposterous .447/.615/.868 slash in 289 plate appearances this past season. Schanuel’s bat-to-ball skills were unparalleled in this year’s draft class; he struck out in just seven percent of his college plate appearances and drew 71 walks against 14 strikeouts in 2023 (24.6% walk rate, 4.8% strikeout rate).
Impressive as Schanuel’s college and minor league numbers are, it’s still a move lacking in recent precedent. The White Sox fast-tracked lefty Garrett Crochet to the Majors in Sept. 2020, just months after drafting him, but that was in part due to the lack of a minor league season. Even that aggressive promotion came after Crochet had roughly three months to work with the team’s player development staff at their alternate training site. Looking even further back, right-hander Mike Leake skipped the minor leagues entirely after being selected with the No. 8 overall pick in 2009, though his debut came on Opening Day the following season. Baseball America’s J.J. Cooper tweets that among position players, Schanuel’s promotion just 40 days after being drafted is the fastest rise to the Majors since Toronto’s Brian Milner back in 1978. Milner, promoted to the Majors just 17 days after being drafted, played in only two Major League games.
The Angels have made a habit of being quite aggressive in fast-tracking their prospects in recent years. Shortstop Zach Neto debuted earlier this season less than one year after going in the first round of the 2022 draft. Last year’s second-round pick, Ben Joyce, has already debuted as well. Lefty Reid Detmers, selected 10th overall in 2020, made his debut on Aug. 1, 2021. Righty Chase Silseth was an 11th round pick in 2021 and in the Majors by May of 2022. None of those quite match this level of aggression, but the Angels’ ultra-aggressive trajectory with Schanuel is on-brand for the organization.
The timing of today’s promotion likely isn’t coincidental. Today marks the first day that prospects can be promoted to the Majors and fall just shy of the requisite service to exhaust their rookie eligibility. So long as Schanuel (or anyone else promoted today) accrues fewer than 131 at-bats down the stretch, they’ll retain their rookie eligibility for the 2024 season. With the new prospect promotion incentives in the collective bargaining agreement, that’s a key status for teams to preserve; a top-100 prospect who wins Rookie of the Year can garner his team an additional pick in the following season’s draft.
Ultimately, the amount of control the Angels have over Schanuel will depend on multiple factors. Today’s promotion doesn’t necessarily cost them a year of club control, as he could well have earned a full year in 2024 anyhow. As it stands, he’s controllable through at least the 2029 season, although that path to free agency could be pushed back if Schanuel struggles in the big leagues and is eventually optioned back to the minors. For now, however, he’ll get the opportunity to show that his polished bat is ready for the challenges he’ll encounter at the game’s top level, while the Angels will take this opportunity to further demonstrate their commitment to fielding a competitive club to Ohtani as he nears free agency.
The level of play in MLB has dropped more than a couple of notches in the last 5+ years.
How so? Care for any details or facts?
I think pitching is way better than we have ever seen.
Just the number of player debuts during the season has got to be up at least 500% from 5+ years ago. Things like HBP are up radically and just the sheer number of Little League style plays we see on a daily basis, suggest the level of play has greatly diminished. And pitchers with 5.00+ eras are on pretty much every team.
Think of it another way: With PED testing, older stars have declined earlier and more severely. Back in the day, conventional thinking had been that players matured at 27, so teams delayed calling up young players and “wasting” team control on pre-27 years. Superstars still got called up at 21, but many not until they were around 25. But these days, with most players dropping off (and getting expensive) around age 30, teams are giving younger players the fulltime roles that used to go to experienced players.
Are the number of little league plays actually up, or are they only highlighted more because when a complete blunder happens, it’s posted thousands of times on social media? League wide fielding percentage is .986, which is the highest it’s ever been, at least since intergration. If a little league blunder happened in 1990, you might see it on ESPN or Sport Center and that’s it. Maybe it’s highlighted in some news papers, and that’s a big maybe. Now, it’s blasted on Twitter, Instagram, and shared thousands upon millions of times. Plus, since every game since 2009 is easily accessible through MLB TV, I can pull up every single play and every single pitch since the ’09 season. There are many games that are simpily lost media because nobody bothered to record them, and the only other place they might be avaiable is some backlogged archive system at a TV station, and I’m sure many of those showcased some pretty bad plays.
The amount of debuts happening has also gone up, but some of that is because farm systems have become much more advanced and streamlined. Plus MLB axxed a handful of minor league teams and levels a couple of years ago. I guess ERA is up, but the league average ERA is about where it was in 1987.
I mean are these actual numbers or made up things? So HBP is up so they players are worse? I don’t follow that logic at all. Are player debuts actually up? Could some
Of that have to do with increase in player protection and increase in pitcher injuries. That is because the players are throwing harder than ever before. Not because they are worse.
I’m sure you’ll love expansion when you add another 60 mlb players!!!
Why do you mean (“I mean”)? We believe you.
MLBfan,
Injuries are up 32.1% and player debuts are down 3.7% from 2019. That will change with late season call ups like the one this article is about, but not enough to make player debuts surpass 2019.
HBP are up from 0.408 per game to 0.428 per game
ERA is up down 4.51 in 2019 to 4.32 this season.
You do realize you can look those things up?
Player age 2023
Position Players – 28.1
Pitchers – 29.1
Player age 2019
Position Players – 27.9
Pitchers – 28.4
Player age 2002 (end of steroid era)
Position Players – 29.2
Pitchers – 28.8
Fielding percentages are up because official scorers score more errors as hits now. This comes per Paul Finebaum. His suspicion is that MLB tells them to score the errors as hits to inflate batting averages and fielding percentages. It makes everyone look better. I would not doubt it in the least.
That’s 4 years.
The Angels are a mess. I have followed them a lot this year, only to watch them implode in so many ways. They picked up the trade deadline guys, got on a little streak, and then….Poof! Their carriage turned into a pumpkin. Poorly managed team for a long time.
I realized that after I posted it. It wasn’t much different in 2018.
Kremer asks if you have facts and you say,
“Has got to be up at least 500%”
Well, I’m sold. That’s a big percentage, so it has to be a fact. It’s amazing you can confidently type a whole paragraph in response and sound so dumb.
mlb – You are 100% correct, and I’d also add:
1) Starting pitchers who can’t go beyond 6 innings and constantly require strict pitch counts and extra days off
2) Relief pitchers who just barely average a little more than an inning a week
3) Five or more pitchers used by a team in a game on a regular basis
4) Plenty of pitchers getting cycled on and off major league teams despite awful career minor league and MLB numbers.
The fact pitchers are throwing mostly max velocity in shorter and fewer appearances is not indicative of “better” pitching.
Fielding percentage is up bc official scorers have been told to move the bar of what is an error — this is well documented at this point
Or it was MLB telling official scorers to be more consistent in an effort to reduce the road/home team splits official scorers were/are known for resulting in better scoring.
There you go again jumping into a conversation about people’s emotions and throwing in facts. Don’t you understand that they just want the kids to get off their lawn?
So you want to go back to the 1970’s?
In 2019 errors by home teams were 18% less than by visiting teams. In 2023 they are 2% different. The changes are more about consistency than because they changed what is considered an error.
Since official scorers are employed by the home team, MLB came in and told them to be more consistent.
Not sure we’ll have a 20 games winner, only 4 pitchers under a 3 ERA, and ‘maybe’ a dozen over or close to 200 Ks. Don’t think we’re anywhere close to “way better than we’ve ever seen.”
Pitcher wins probably should not even be kept track of. There have been great pitchers that got 13 wins in a season and mediocre pitchers that got 21. Why? Run support. Wins are strictly a team stat, not an individual stat.
Way better mate? generally speaking, they are calling up pitchers that throw 98, but they can’t control where it goes.
In 2023 so far pitchers are walking 8.6% of batters. In 2003 they walked 8.5%. In 1993 they walked 8.7%. In 1973 they walked 8.8%.
Just not seeing this huge difference over the last 50 years.
We don’t do facts and details here.
I disagree generally but the bad teams are truly awful.
I understand your angle, but think of it this way: the faster track to MLB will entice more athletes to choose baseball. Athletes like Kyler Murray (just an example, not saying he’s a poster boy) chose football because there’s a faster track to the professional level.
I actually like the trajectory here. The trainers will need to be ready though as 162 is a much longer journey for these young athletes.
I think the gap in talent has grown significantly over the past decade or so. Not necessarily the level of play. The top echelon’s ceiling keeps getting higher and higher while the floor stays the same.
I’d rather the Kyler Murray types not stay in baseball. I only want to watch players that LOVE the game. Not those that picked it because they could make money faster.
Its possible Kyler Murray loved both games. Dude went #1 overall in football and #5 overall in baseball. However, playing baseball in the minor and maybe not making any real money for 5+ years should lean someone towards football where they are paid for their kraft right away. I’m not taking a 5 year internship when I could accept a great high paying job right away.
Kyler Murray agreed to a $4.66 million signing bonus from the A’s. He was hardly an intern.
Kyler Murray signed a $230 million contract with the Cardinals. $4.66 is an intern salary
He signed a 35 million dollar contract when he was drafted into the NFL. Comparing his draft signing bonus in MLB to the (too early and too much) extension he signed in Football after playing for 3 years is misleading. He might be signing a similar extension in a year or two if he stuck with baseball and excelled.
Not at all saying that he would have made more money in MLB, as that seems unlikely. But it is possible that he would have and isn’t as lopsided as you say
Kyler Murray is on the PUP meaning he is not making any money and NFL contracts are not fully guaranteed.
The ACL injury he suffered last December and had surgery on in January means he likely misses half of this season and when he comes back his mobility, his #1 weapon, will be greatly diminished.
The Cardinals will be awful again this season and are likely to take a QB with their 1st rd pick effectively ending Murray’s time there.
Add in his 2 concussions and by the time his contact is over he likely won’t be able to walk or talk.
Play baseball. Football kills bodies and brain cells.
Once again, if he loves money more than the game, then good riddance to him. The best MLB players would have played for free.
Yes, NFL contracts are not fully guaranteed but $160 million of his contract is guaranteed. Again, I’m sure he loved both baseball and football but if you can make money right away and a lot of it, that the job that pays more. Other than signing bonus, minor leaguers make next to nothing in baseball and even at the major league level, you can be the best and team doesn’t have to pay you over the minimum until you hit arbitration.
Or you could look at it like this. What other job other than pro sports is a 22 year old person likely to earn anywhere close to the major league minimum salary. Heck, most 22 year olds won’t earn more than a minor leaguer’s salary, especially those with just a high school education like many baseball players. There is absolutely no crying poverty for baseball players in my book.
Its only guaranteed if he is on the roster. On the PUP is a different story.
Health is worth more than money. That kid won’t be able to carry a conversation in 5 years.
There is no shred of evidence that this is true. It’s s dumb cliche guys say in their retirement speeches but is not even close to the truth. Players have been fighting to get better pay since before the dead ball era.
Heaven forbid if he wants to get paid like everyone else but hi flew is on his high horse
He is a QB & the very good ones get the Brinks truck backing up their driveway.
Have you heard his recent interviews? He can’t carry a conversation now.
He really couldn’t back in 2019. youtu.be/DIMi-_A4qOQ
Nah @mlb fan. Athletes are faster , stronger , fitter than ever before .You’re just getting older and in that mindset of “things aren’t like they used to be “ lol
Athletes are faster , stronger , fitter than ever before
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That’s the bottom line. Teams have minor leaguers now that throw 100. In the olde days, that would be jaw-dropping velocity. Now when you 100, you ask about the rotation. We have SS’s with world class speed and can drive the ball 450 feet.
It’s the same with every sport.
The athletes aren’t better, the training and technology are better.
Besides, being a athlete is not the same as being a baseball player. Dan Vogelbach is in the major leagues and I think more people would confuse him with a watermelon than an athlete.
Like to see you bench press with Vogey then talk
If you are defining an athlete based on whether they can out bench press me, then you are going to be overrun with “athletes” quickly.
Dude u r a moron if u don’t think athletes r better more money invested in them more scouting. Get off your high horse thinking your smarter and better than everyone
Baserunning instincts and fundamentals have taken a nosedive, in my opinion.
Snoo, No question about it.
Not really. That’s just another effect of analytics. Teams have drawn firm lines based on the metrics as to when being aggressive on the baselines is on average more good than bad. It’s very far from the same lines they used to draw (which were the objectively wrong ones in terms of maximizing run production). So teams are running less, and taking fewer extra bases. Also, major recency bias in your assessment. There were a TON of LOL baserunning eff-ups in the 70’s and 80’s, far more than today.
Like last nights Angel game. Diaz has a choice, stay at third and watch the Angels turn a DP, break for the plate and get thrown out, leaving runners on first and second with one out, or run into a triple play.
A trained runner takes option 2. It’s the least instinctive, but it’s the right move.
That’s a great example of mistakes that should not happen at the major league level. That stuff is not being taught.
That falls some on the 3B coach. Before the pitch was thrown he should have told the runner at third to run on anything hit on the ground to stay out of double play
I agree. I use to tell runners that all the time and they looked at me like I was nuts.
It’s not instinctual.
You do realize that is not the player’s call? The 3B coach makes that call.
You have obviously never coached above tee ball
A smart player shouldn’t have to be told.
Someone who was well trained should not have to be told.
Since it’s the wrong move, it obviously came from you.
So what’s the choice. Let them turn two and stay at third.
You seem to tell people they are wrong. But that’s really all you say.
I know for a fact you are wrong about Tony Gwynn. Google it, listen to his own words.
Unlike you, I have an answer beyond you’re wrong.
If I am wrong about Tony Gwynn, then produce proof. Until you can I will trust my knowledge of a man I spoke with hundreds of times over his 20 year career in San Diego and who came to speak to my college teams multiple times while I was coaching in the area.
The Angels didn’t play on Thursday, so you must have meant Wednesday’s or Friday’s game.
If you are talking about Yandy Diaz and the triple play, Diaz runs like he is carrying a piano. His sprint speed is 2 mph below league average, and he ranks 343 in sprint speed. That is why he was out by two steps at home even after the throw went to 1B.
What you do on a ground ball to the left side with a man on 1B and 3B is:
#1, WAIT to see if it gets through before breaking for home.
#2, Wait until the ball is thrown to 1B before breaking for home.
#3. Dont make the out at home. Only go at all if you have a good lead.
If Diaz broke for home at any time before that ball went to 1B, they still would have gotten the force out at 2B, and he would have been out by a mile at home plate and there would have been 2 outs and a man on 1B. MUCH lower run expectancy than 2 outs and a man on 3B.
On that play Rengifo looked Diaz back to 3B so he couldn’t break for home, then he flipped to 2B for the force and Drury turned and fired to 1B with Diaz just a step off 3B.
Linares never should have sent him at all. Diaz is slow, had only a tiny lead, and in that situation, you go back to #3. Don’t make the out at home.
If Diaz is still on 3B at least you have a shot at driving him in. When he is out by 2 steps you wasted a baserunner in scoring position.
The bottom line is unless you have an exceptional lead or are fast enough to beat the throw, don’t run at all if you are on 3B. Diaz had a tiny lead and is not fast enough as evidenced by being out by 2 steps.
So, you are wrong. I explained that play from a former college coach’s point of view. MINE.
Takes five second to google. Do you not know how to google? And you talk about my ignorance? Go figure.
In his own voice he talked about himself and Boggs being punch and Judy hitters, and he embraced it.
As far as fundamentals. Rengifo forgot to cover second base twice in one week. Infielders of the 70s didn’t make that mistake twice in one decade.
As far Diaz, he has to prevent that DP. Maybe in the 70s, they had the training and experience to do that. You seldom saw a team turn two with the runner at third and his thumb up his butt. Today, you see it far too often. With so many who don’t know how to run the bases, just break for the plate.
It’s a skill most players don’t have, so just break for the plate.
Apparently you don’t know how to Google or you would have provided a link.
I gave you a full explanation from a coaches perspective, mine. You ae doubling down on moronic. I have no more time for your special brand of stupid so going to have to mute you.
I guess you have a tball understanding of the internet.
You have just ruined any credibility you might had. I also noticed I can’t hit reply on your post.
I think what you’re referring to is that the game has changed. I can’t recall more than two hit and run plays being called by the Angels all season. Trout is not allowed to steal. Weak slap hitters with no power like Velasquez rarely try to bunt for a hit and refuse to choke up and make contact. It’s all about power now. Banging homers and doubles. When do you see a team try to bunt the leadoff double to third and score on an out in the third inning of a game anymore? This used to be something teams did regularly against tough pitchers. This one dimensional way to play has made the game one dimensional and boring. Teams don’t emphasize what used to be viewed as fundamental baseball.
That’s why I love the new rules. It expands the way teams try to score. I find games with solo home runs and nothing else to quite boring.
Manufacture runs, whens last time U saw a squeeze play or really even just an attempt to sneak bunt dwn 4a hit cause batter knew he could, Cardinals in 80s would small ball u to death n they were fundamentally sound, now it’s all bout hot dogging n bat flips
What’s funny is this is “stunning news” to call up a player from the amateur draft so young, but many Latin players can already be well paid stars by the age of 22 (Franco, Rodriguez).
You can see why there was controversy around the draft and player availability/rights.
Rather than put restrictions on the Latin draft, I’d rather see the league be bold and bring up younger players from the amateur draft. Neto was a game changer for the Halos until he got hurt. Let’s see what this kid can do.
6 weeks into first pro season to angels=MLB ready what nonsense
Schanuel – gesundheit
Almost entirely impossible to generalize because the organizations are so different. Teams like the Os and Rays guve every prospect full preparation at every level. Good teams like the Braves and Dodgers don’t always do that, but they quickly send guys back if they are nit ready.
Then you have the junk organizations like the Mets, Padres and Angels that vuew prospects as human baseball cards. MILB development? No, theyre trade chips and we have to win THIS YEAR. Bring them here if there’s any chance they’ll help.
Of course, the play is very uneven.
The Halos have six teams ahead of them in the wildcard race. While I appreciate their aggressive move, and understand Schanuel’s impressive start, this won’t likely change the outcome for 2023. The Angels will be watching the playoffs from home like the rest of us.
This isn’t a playoff push, it’s a do we need to pursue a 1B in the off-season push.
I hope they’re not making a decision on the kid based on the next six weeks.
I think the player we can compare him to is Spencer Torkelson. Torkelson is finally becoming a productive player after a year and a half in the minors and a year and a half in the majors. If Schnauer follows this same timeline, that would put him on track to be a productive player sometime during the 2026 season
They are two very different players. Schanuel is a big on-base guy with far less power than Torkelson arrived with.
They’ll also have DH open in the offseason after this.
Bambi has got it. Angels lost Walsh and their 1B this season other than Walsh have a 91 OPS+ (83 OPS+ including Walsh). They want to know if this guy is a possible answer or do they need to pursue a FA 1B.
I say FA because they have very little in their farm system to trade.
The 100 PA he will get over the next 6 weeks will at least give them an idea how he will handle the jump to the majors. IF he completely bombs, they go after a 1B in the offseason. If he can at least match the 83 OPS+ the rest of the guys they have ran out at 1B have produced, then they see hat he can do in 2024 and just sign a backup.
The one way they can totally blow this is to not start him everyday at 1B.
Since there are no big name hitters out there, Arte is going to Arte.
The Angels will be signing low priced guys like Moustakas and Urshela to be utility backup type players, signing back of the rotation starters and some cheap middle relievers, and going out to play with that group.
Winning is not all that important to him. Just filling the stands.
So Schanuel is probably the starting 1B, Neto the starting SS, O’Hoppe the starting catcher, Moniak and Adell platoon in the OF, and Arte counts on Rendon starting at 3B again.
I think angels need pitching like they always do
So they have nothing to lose.
Devil’s advocate; there’s always that outside chance you call up a kid, he gets totally outmatched, his confidence is crushed, and he’s never the same/doesn’t ever get a chance to live up to his potential because he was put under the gun too soon.
Valid point.
Then he wouldn’t have made it anyway.
Not really. Plenty of promising prospects have had their career rushed and ruined because of it. Getting put in the line of fire so early and before you may be ready has harmed some careers. David Clyde comes to mind, although he was for other reasons, but among others.
Sadly they’re going to rush a kid up in a desperate attempt to keep Ohtani, risking ruining a top draft pick for a guy who’s leaving, who let’s recap, the Angels went all in, lost even more than before, and he’s going to walk for nothing in the offseason. Like he had nothing to do with them going all in, because he’s been stringing them along into thinking there’s a chance he’ll stay.
Then when he handpicks his second team, and they don’t take off, we’ll have to find new excuses for how the GOAT can’t seem to get past .500.
the angels don’t take off because of Moreno, and the angels. We’ll see what adding a 10 win player should do for a team next year.
Quiet 77, Adell might be listening.
One every 50 years? I think it’s worth taking that chance.
Clyde was a few weeks out of high school not a 22 year old that also played in AA.
Plus Clyde pitched in the majors for parts of 5 seasons. That is far longer than most pitchers of his day lasted.
Yeah it was a pretty rough comp, not really similar situation at all. It’ll work out fine, just a surprising move.
Did u expect anything less from the angels
Mike Morgan n Tim Conroy were exploited as barely outa high school pitchers, baseball is such a mental gm n to be put in a terrible situation where any possible success is just a pipe dream b4 Ur ready can B catastrophic 4kids confidence n career
David Clyde was a high school player when he was called up and he was a pitcher. He still spent 5 years in the majors. Not many people did that back then,
Schanuel is a college kid who absolutely destroyed college baseball and was destroying AA in his first taste. When he was called up he was hitting the pitches no one hits in AA except the best of the best. 95+ FB up and in and breaking pitches. While he was hitting far too many balls on the ground, his exit velocity and hard hit ball % were at the very top of his league.
With no one to play 1B in the majors, there was no reason to leave this kid in AA and no reason to let him go ruin his swing at a mile high playing in games in the PCL.
Hot diggity!! Is this the fastest someone has been called up after being drafted?
Nope but still wild
From mlb.com
Dave Roberts
“ No player has gone from the Draft to the Major Leagues faster than Roberts, who did so in barely more than 24 hours. The Oregon product went first overall to the Padres on June 6, 1972 … signed his pro contract on June 7 … and debuted with San Diego that very same day, entering at the hot corner in the 12th inning of an eventual 18-inning affair in which he went 0-for-3.”
Roberts may be the fastest, but several very successful players have went directly from being drafted to the big leagues. I can remember Bob Horner, Jon Olerud, and Dave Winfield just from the players I watched. I am sure there were probably a few other in the same time period.
Quicker than the day after they signed their contract ?
I didn’t say that they were faster, and I was in no way implying that you were incorrect . I was just adding additional information on top of what you did. There may be several of the younger readers who may not remember that at one point it was not unheard of to promote straight out 9f the draft in rare cases.
It was just a question man I wasn’t attacking you in any way
No worries, I didn’t feel that you did (and I have thick skin anyway).
One of the many shortcomings of relying on written text alone, is that we can (or miss inserting them) miss clues to the tone and mood of someone’s reply.
Puff, puff, pass
Al Kaline, who then went on to play, broadcast, coach and work in the FO for the next 67 straight years with the Tigers until his passing.
Mr. Tiger
67 years is pretty damn impressive
And yet he was a truly nice man. I never heard him say a bad word about anyone.
Speaking of which you hear about the O’s broadcaster? What a joke of an organization! So I guess they were playing Tampa bay and he made a comment about how bad the Os have been against Tampa bay in the past. Not sure if he was suspended or fire but still either way a horrible look for the organization since it was all true
Sometimes saying a not nice thing about someone IS actually being nice. Sometimes never saying a bad word about someone is just lazy and conflict-avoiding.
You may want to look deeper into that situation. Having met Kevin Brown on multiple occasions after games, I can tell you it was not about what he said on air. That is all I will say.
Personally I’d trust Yahoo as much as the National Enquirer or even less so.
Yahoo didn’t say otherwise, they speculated. Notice the words that all the writers have used about the situation regarding Brown. “reportedly suspended for”
Not one person with any direct knowledge of the situation has said its because he said something bad about the team including Brown.
By law teams cannot speak about the reasons for personnel matters like suspensions or firings.
Brown himself said that he has a great working relationship with the team and that everyone was mistaken about why he was suspended.
If he felt he had been wronged, he could have moved on and gotten another job. He has been in the industry for quite a while and if this was all about the Orioles having thin skins he could have easily gotten another job next season. Instead, he stayed and publicly defended the team’s decision. cbssports.com/mlb/news/orioles-announcer-kevin-bro…
Those things point to there being another reason for the suspension.
My source. Personal experience having talked with Brown immediately after multiple games.
Pads, I figured that was the case, because there was nothing BUT speculation regarding the other thing.
You have no sources that say with certainty that he was suspended for anything he said and Brown said that was NOT why he was suspended.
Go to some games yourself. See for yourself. PLEASE don’t believe me, investigate and use your brain for a change.
No. It doesn’t just like Yahoo didn’t. It says “REPORTEDLY SUSPENDED FOR”.
Are you saying Kevin Brown is a liar? I guess that would be a reason to be suspended for, but HE said he was not suspended for his on air comments. That everyone was wrong about their speculation about that.
So if he says that he was NOT suspended for the reason that people that were not part of the situation speculated it was, what do you think it was that he did to get suspended? Why do you think he publicly defended the team and didn’t come out and say something else was the reason for it to clear it up?
I could give a crap about what anyone who was not one of the parties involved said. That is ALL speculation.
You know what is NOT speculation? That Brown said that his on air comments were NOT why he was suspended.
So either you are saying Brown is a liar or he got suspended for something other than his on air comments. You take your pick. They are the only two choices.
Let me repeat that one more time, because you don’t seem to be understanding it. BROWN said that the reason that he was suspended was NOT his on air comments and that EVERYONE who speculated about it was wrong
Do I need to repeat it again or are you getting the fact that Brown was NOT suspended for his on air comments.
Look at your user name. You expect people to take you seriously? All the KB stuff was based on a fan’s posts on twitter. It is supposition. He was not fired. Learn to read, please. And, maybe back off the jingoistic use of slurs… even if they used to be team names, it’s just sad.
So Pads, what is the real story? I’m having a hard time reading between the lines here. Thanks.
I am not sure what you don’t understand. Brown said that those “people close to the game” were wrong about what they thought happened. He is the one closest to the situation and he said that he was not suspended for his on-air comments in the pre-game against the Rays.
But somehow you think that other people know better than Kevin Brown why Kevin Brown was suspended?
I know they call using marijuana “getting stupid”, but you take that to a whole different level.
Lets see, should I believe unnamed sources close to the game or the actual person involved?
I am going with the person involved.
But hey, you keep right on with your racist name and delusional takes. I will stick with facts as laid out by the actual people involved.
Yeah it used to happen fairly frequently, maybe once every other year or so.
mlb.com/news/players-who-went-directly-from-the-dr…
So the last position player, X Nady was also by the Padres. Winfield, Roberts, Nady.
Other than all the injuries, didn’t Nady do pretty well? We all know that Winfield became a HOF and Roberts had a good, long career. So most position players that were called up during their draft seasons did pretty good. That is good to know.
Winfield was the Padres as well.
Getting rushed to the Majors ruined the career of David Clyde, but saved the Rangers franchise.
Didn’t David Clyde play right after being drafted?
Yep, his first mlb start was a mere 3 weeks after his last high school game.
Been a fan since childhood, not a hater.
But, The Angels have 40 games left and 60 wins.
They’d have to play .750 ball and go 30-10 in those 40 games.
NOT happening.
At this point, I just want them to finish above .500 (82-80).
Agreed, especially With the schedule ahead.
That would be a win with all the injuries the team has had.
@M.C.Homer- It’s been done before. Not like being down 0-3 in a best of seven series though. The Angels would need help from the teams in front of them too. Doesn’t look good though.
A 10 game win streak would change the math real quick. But they havn’t shown that kind of ability this year
I hope you’re right! I agree with Orange, i’d just like to see them finish above .500.
The Angels don’t get extra credit for being the first to promote their top prospects the same year they are drafted. It is more an indictment of the lack of talent in their system. I do think that Shanuel will perform adequately in his first test in MLB. The gamble is he starts real slowly and becomes another Jo Adell.
Completely different. Adell has great speed, great power, poor bat to ball skills.
Schanuel is polar opposite.
U don’t know anything until he faces mlb pitching
No it’s not an indictment. It’s a recognition that he can’t be challenged in the minors. He’s that good. Teams try to challenge elite prospects — especially hitters — as soon as they can, rather than let them run up insane stats and maybe develop bad habits. So consider this run in Anaheim to be his development period.
It’s very hard to develop players in the PCL. I don’t mind the promotion, but fans shouldn’t expect much. A Punch and Judy hitter with a great eye. Maybe 300/400/400.
Powerwise, Schanuel is no Pete Alonzo, but Punch and Judy hitter seems a little harsh for a guy that slugged nearly .900 in college and .500 in his first 21 pro games. Maybe there’s some middle ground here.
Somebody has to get on base otherwise all those home-run hitters collect one measly RBI at a time.
A .123 ISO is rather low for a first baseman.
A slugging pct of less than 150 points of batting average is Punch and Judy.
Absolutely, OBP is huge, but if he doesn’t run and doesn’t hit for power, and plays first base, there isn’t much wiggle room.
IMHO, a high OBP won’t carry if you cannot hit for power. He is a lot larger than Madrigal, so maybe the power will develop in another year or two. But if you can’t threaten to take a pitcher deep, then there is no reason for them not to throw a FB right down the middle.
He’s more punch than Judy.
One HR 96 plate appearances in the minor leagues? No punch.
You people have unrealistic expectations.
Are people really expecting more than 300/400/400? I think that is optimistic.
Halo, again, I say there is some middle ground between Punch and Judy and slugger.
You were insistent on giving Adell chance after chance despite his crashing and burning at the Major League level and now you write off Schanuel as a Punch and Judy hitter before he plays his first game one short month after being drafted.
Should we just add Schanuel to the list of Angels you hate – Perry, Rengifo, Schanuel, etc?
I have zero problem giving him a chance. I’m trying to be realistic.
I compared him to Bochtee. I wrote 300/400/400. I wrote Mark Grace was a good comp. There is nothing wrong with that.
He’s a high floor, low ceiling player. My only complaint is he’s not 11 pick worthy. I fully expect him to be better than most 11th picks. But he does have a low ceiling.
As far as Adell. He’s a low floor high ceiling player. But he’s about to hit the pavement and the time for him to get on that elevator is quickly vanishing.
Regarding Schnauel’s ISO, a couple of thoughts. Your projecting his power after his first 96 PAs as a pro and one month post draft. Not sure that’s remotely relevant. That said, it’s hard to have an elevated ISO when your AVG is .370. At least you could acknowledge his .400+ ISO in nearly 300 PAs in college this year.
Schnaluel may be a Santana/Grace type hitter which, in my opinion, is valuable and most definitely not Punch and Judy. Again, I think there is some middle ground here.
Short sample. He killed the ball (including with power) in college.
In the Angels hitting environment that would be a 130 wRC+ or something, which is fantastic. There are only 6 400 OBP guys in the majors right now.
@Joe & @Halo – Keith Hernandez had a lifetime slug 140 points higher than his lifetime BA – the ONLY times he was more than 150 over were
1977 – .166
1979 – 169 (his MVP year)
1980 – 173
1981 – 157
Almost any team in the majors this year would score WAY more runs (and give up fewer), with him as their first baseman, almost every year of his career.
Its just 16 games but his avg exit velocity in AA is MLB quality. Mid 90s. That will play and he will hit his share of home runs.
No one is expecting him to be a good defensive firstbaseman let alone one of the greatest of all time.
1 hr in 97 plate appearance is nothing to sneeze at u can throw all your fancy numbers all u want u ain’t driving runs in as a firstbaseman u r not gonna last long
Right, it’s a weird profile to take at pick 11.
The Angels farm system is horrid, the vast majority of his moves have backfired, Ohtani is leaving, and he doesn’t have much to justify his job or put on his resume.
The draft pick and the call up makes perfect sense when you put it in the context of Minasian trying to save his job.
The Angels need to clean house.
They are expecting him to be a league average defensive 1B or above depending on the source. 50 to 55 FV.
You don’t actually look at the facts before commenting do you?
Was looking at some trending HOF players on BR. One has 2 HR in his first 241 PA as a pro. Larry Walker. Another hit 6 in his first 439 PA in pro ball. Tony Perez.
Comments like yours are why there is a warning against small sample sizes.
Schanuel has an .868 SLG in college. 2nd best power number in a full college season.
He was hitting the ball harder than anyone in AA when they called him up. A 94 mph average exit velocity means he has power.
So step away from the edge.
You do realize that .300/.400/.400 is awesome, right? Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the game knows that hitting .300 with a .400 OBP means you are an incredibly good player. An .800 OPS puts you in the top 50 batters in the majors.
It’s also not smart or logical to think a guy that had an .868 SLG in college is going to sink to a .400 in the majors.
So, leave baseball to those who at least have a rudimentary understanding and go back to playing Pokemon Go or Tik Tok or whatever you kids do now days on your phones.
Schanuel hit over .500 in college and over .400 in AA against FB of 95+ this season. I am sure he is thinking “PLEASE, throw that cheese over the heart of the plate, meat”.
96 plate appearances. You are judging his power on 96 plate appearances. That may be the dumbest thing I have seen today.
I am going to play your small sample size theater.
After 3 games Schanuel has a 92.1 MPH average exit velocity.
Do you know who also has a 92.1 MPH average exit velocity?
Mike Trout.
Schanuel has a 66.7 HH%.
Aaron Judge leads the league at 63.9%
Schanuel has a .500 BA against FB. Do you know who else has a .500 BA against FB? NO ONE ELSE.
See how stupid small sample size theater is? That is what you were trying to do with your 96 PA in his first 3 weeks in the minors stats means no power BS.
With aluminum bats off college Ps most of whom aren’t even goin to pitch in minor leagues cause there stuffs not good enough, college stats need to be taken w/grain of salt
Should easily have 10 or more wins today just from the bullpen alone imploding thoughout the year
Same with every team in baseball lol. The Astros bullpen has melted down more times than I can count (Montero, Stanek, Maton) but you can’t use that as an excuse.
Not the same. I’ve seen good pens and bad pens. The Angel pen is bad. Every data point proves that.
Check out Jeff Fletchers article on issues with upstairs. Angels analytics and scouting has been in question the past 2 years and this sheds more light on that
If the angels have a lead, I never watch after the 7th inning. Just too brutal to watch
If this pen was as good as the pen of the 2ooos, this team would be a real playoff contender.
Angel fans have seen good pens and seen bad pens. And we’ve seen them for long stretches at a time. This is a bad pen and its been a bad pen for a long period of time.
If a GM knows what he’s doing and is a strong talent evaluator, he can build and maintain a strong pen, and nothing gives a team a bigger edge, especially in the post season.
We haven’t had one of those GMs in awhile.
There was no analytics department at all until Eppler. From what Blum wrote about the Angels, only the A’s currently have a smaller analytics and advanced scouting department. Moreno needs to invest more money in that instead of players like Rendon. Oh, and sign a few top FA pitchers to a deal longer than 3 years.
Interesting article. Bill Hezel came on board this season from Driveline and is responsible for a huge number of top pitchers in the league.
Two comments I found the most telling.
Left-hander Patrick Sandoval said the Angels definitely went too far in emphasizing raw stuff early in the season, but it became more balanced with the other elements of pitching about a month into the season.
“We’ve structured the pitching here in a way to emphasize both, I think in a good way,” he said. “It’s just a matter of us going out there and executing in games, and that’s where we fall short, for sure.”
One of the reasons the Angels were emphasizing pitch shapes, the pitchers said, is that the team was looking for more strikeouts. This year’s shift ban, plus the Angels’ overall weaker defensive infield, prompted the team to try to avoid contact.
The other was Nevin saying you have to man up and take responsibility for being a professional.
I don’t think you can put the pen entirely on Minasian. Two of the worst pitchers in our pen were among the best relievers in the game when we brought them in. Tepera had a 2.79 era in 2021 and Loup had a 0.95 era in 2021. As a GM, that’s what you’re looking for, but nobody including Minasian could have predicted how awful they were going to be. It’s on Nevin for continuing to trot Loup out there when he should have been DFA’d along with Tepera. I actually appreciate what Minasian has done with the roster as a whole.
Perry probably trying to see if he’s the answer for next season or a 1B needs to brought in. Schanuel’s plate discipline is elite and if he can maintain it in the big leagues I’m more than happy with him playing there over the rest the roster!
Smacks of desperation.
Not at all. It’s an obvious decision. He’s not being challenged at all in the minors and the Angels’ AAA team is in one of the most hitter friendly environments in the sport. Leaving him there is almost certain to develop bad habits in a unique hitter.
In a lost season they are giving up the extra year of control just to bring him up.
No they are not. He has a very good chance to make the team out of spring training. And if they need to send him down, they get the year back.
Hard to get challenged in 21 games. Pitchers don’t have the time to adapt to you for you to then adapt back.
He has a great eye, great bat to ball skills, and no power. It will be interesting to see how that plays. Rod Carew could do it, but not many could. Not a lot of wiggle room.
He had tons of power in college.
No he didn’t. Seriously?
19 HR’s in a college season (60 games) is pretty damn good. Extrapolated to 150 games that’s 45 HR’s.
I wouldn’t call it tons. But you made your point. Overall in College he did not hit for power, but did his senior year.
He has a 94.8 mph average exit velocity in pro ball. Care to guess where that would rank in the majors? If you said 4th, you were right.
He had an .868 SLG in college this season. Care to guess where that ranked? If you guessed 2nd in D1, you were right.
So I guess that means he has no power, right?
19 HR in 59 games and an .868 SLG. Are you seriously trying to say that is not good power in college?
You know who DIDN’T hit for that much power in college this season? Dylan Crews.
baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=cre…
Slg% is a great indicator of power. Other than 1 kid that played at 4400 feet of elevation, Schanuel was 2nd in NCAA D1 ball.
ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/individual/321
Overall he didn’t have power in college but he did his senior year.
Was my response to him incorrect? Anyway, it doesn’t take much of a scout to see that his swing is not the swing of a batter who is going to consistently drive the ball.
Do you disagree?
You were wrong. As a freshman he graded out with 50 FV power. As a junior he graded out as 50-55 FV power.
Then he walked out and put up insane numbers. An .868 Slg. That is power.
YOU are not a scout. The scouts all say he WILL hit for power in the majors. Everyone that gets paid to evaluate players say he will hit for power.
I’m not a scout but there was a reason why he was pegged late first round, not 11th. I’m not a scout, but I know that swing doesn’t generate much power. I’m not a scout, but I knew right away that Bachman had little chance as a starter.
I’m not a scout, but I knew Moniac would fall down to Earth and Rengifo wasn’t very good.
I’m not a scout, and thought Adell was going to be a perineal all star.
I’m certainly not a scout , not perfect, but I do know some things.
Do you think that swing will generate power? Why don’t you start there and tell me what you think about him instead of telling me what you think about me.
Pegged by whom? I saw him pegged anywhere from 10th to 16th.
Schanuel is hitting the ball as a pro at over 94 mph on average. That is near the top of the game, albeit in a ridiculously small sample size.
He had an .868 SLG in college this year. He hit 19 HR in 59 games. He had a 97.2 mph average exit velocity, although that is with a metal bat. That is serious power. His power numbers were better than the guy who was drafted #2.
Rengifo was supposed to be a backup and he is miles better than your BFF Fletcher.
What you DON’T know would fill a large book. What you do know is all questionable.
Schanuel IS generating power. What he is not yet doing is generating LOFT.
Multiple people have told you what we thought about Schanuel and what scouts think about him. You keep coming back with your own BS that is completely devoid of basis in reality.
Just the MLB. ESPN.
And I have been saying Rengifo is a utility infielder. Finally someone agrees.
And I notice you wrote another post saying someone is wrong followed by no useful information or opinion.
What I don’t know about things could fill thousands of encyclopedias, but you all you do is tell people that without even trying to give a sentence.
Do you think that swing will generate power? But you don’t ever seem to attempt to stick your neck out, just chop off others.
Find out your wrong about Tony Gwynn yet?
Schanuel’s swing does generate power. Period. You are the only moron who doesn’t see that. What it hasn’t produced at the pro level yet is LOFT.
You keep getting things wrong, get shown you are undeniably wrong, and still double down on WRONG.
No links from you and I knew Tony personally. I will rely on my own personal knowledge of the man.
MLB.com final mock draft
11. Angels
Callis: Kyle Teel, C, Virginia (No. 7)
Teel could perhaps go No. 3 if Crews and Langford go 1-2, and he’s a leading contender at No. 7, but otherwise it’s hard to find him a home in the Top 10. He would fit the Angels’ desire for another collegian who could move as fast as 2022 first-rounder Zach Neto, who reached the big leagues in April. So would Florida Atlantic first baseman Nolan Schanuel.
13. Cubs
Callis: Nolan Schanuel, 1B/OF, Florida Atlantic (No. 26)
After projecting Nimmala to the Cubs in my last two mocks, I no longer believe that’s a consideration. College bats (Taylor, Schanuel, Shaw, Troy, Gonzalez, Wilson, Bradfield) may be the favored demographic — or just the strength of this part of the draft.
So 11th to 13th on that one.
BA had him going 13th to the Cubs.
13th on that one.
Here is the link for MLB.com’s final mock draft mlb.com/news/final-mlb-mock-draft-2023
Kiley McDaniel of ESPN had him going 16th to the Giants in his final mock on July 9th. It’s behind a paywall, so no sense in posting the link. You don’t have the money to pay for Insider.
So, you are wrong on both claims.
You talk to me but you won’t let me respond. Did you ignore the ratings?
That’s a mock draft not a ranking. And MLB had him ranked 26th.
He didn’t play his senior year in college. He was drafted after his junior year.
According to fangraphs he has a future grade of 50 for in game power, which is average. So I would think 18-22 bombs. While not elite we have seen this skill set work for many 1B in the past. Carlos Santana is one who jumps to mind (he had a couple 30 HR years but that was a lot of juice ball era stuff too). But looking at his SLG there feels like some Similarities.
Just saying that average power with elite OBP skills and good hit too can make you a long time MLBer.
Sounds like Mark Grace at the plate.
Offensively, Mark Grace is a reasonable comp. A firstbaseman with a 120 wRC+ is a major league player, not a difference maker.
The 11th pick for a low ceiling, non difference maker player, is an interesting choice.
He isn’t Reggie Willits, nor is he Pete Alonso. Why are you trying to comp a guy who is barely out of college. He could quite possibly be a 20-25 HR with a .300 average in a few years. Many players develop their power a few years into their Professional career. He was just drafted, Give him a chance. No wiggle room, he has a TON of wiggle room. He has not stepped into an MLB dugout yet.
He’s not Reggie Willits. Who said he was?
Even mentioning those players and saying “he’s not” doesn’t provide much value.
But 20 HRs is a stretch. I think when you see his swing, you’ll agree.
Do you want an Angel comp, Bruce Bochte. Nice player but hardly a difference maker.
huh?? Reggie Willits was the ultimate punch and judy guy. Your label not mine.
All your posts are; is speculation, and usually negative speculation. I was simply saying you/ me/us do not know what he will be. I don’t feel labeling him as a punch and judy is accurate.
What makes you think you are the only one who has seen his swing? Am I not capable of viewing the same videos you are looking at? Swings, plate approach, batting stances are tweaked constantly. Even if he his 15-18 HR a year. If he is consistent and dependable, then you have someone like a JT Snow. I would not be disappointed with that.
Mark Grace finished in the MVP voting four times and accumulated 46 WAR in his career, which is just 10 or so below serious Hall of Fame consideration. That’s a star and very much a difference maker. Schanuel has more power than Grace, as well.
I would call Willits a slap hitter. Luis Polania was a slap hitter.
I think you like being offended. I think you look for it.
By the way Tony Gwynn called himself a Punch and Judy hitter.
Keeps the ball in play, mostly singles. What part of that doesn’t describe Schanuel?
Twenty six minor league hits, six went for extra bases.
You just want to be offended by something.
Mark Grace had a pretty good career! I would think most fans would gladly root to a player like Grace. I know I would.
I will never understand the negativism brought on to the players in here. These players have worked their whole lives to be an elite athlete and people come in here and tear them apart.
To those so called “fans” I say….Bravo you can read a stat sheet, so what.
I am not all offended. I know what I stand for and proudly defend the fact that I am annoyed by the incessant negative comments made.
Comparing Schanuel to anyone is unfair to Schanuel himself. Let the kid be the best version of himself that he can be!
By the way my son played for Tony Gwynn. He was a great human being.
Exactly! Mark Grace had a very good career. Bochte had a good career.
Bochte was more a Punch and Judy hitter than Grace. But both had slugging pct that didn’t greatly out pace their average, but they both were valuable.
It’s not an insult, especially when I list 300/400. Who knows, he may even contend for a batting title one day?
He’s a high floor, low ceiling player. Nothing wrong with that, only that with the 11th pick, I prefer swinging higher.
That is no insult.
Halo11..Look at you trying to stir things up.
Why would you call Willits a Punch and Judy hitter? Willits aspired to be a Punch and Judy hitter.
You almost did it!!! You almost completed a completely positive post. Then the real Halo11fan appeared and you had to end it with a jab on where he was picked.
If you remember a few weeks back it was pointed out that the 11th overall pick rarely is a huge impact player. History tells us that.
Halo, your not really making judgments on Schanuel’s statistics 21 games into his pro career and a month after being drafted are you?
Remember above how you acknowledged Schanuel hit with power as a Senior in college? Is it possible, he physically matured between his Freshman year and Senior year? Is it possible Schanuel will mature physically the next four years? Is it possible he will further enhance his swing with professional coaching? Let’s at least give him his first Major League AB before we categorize him.
A jab? That post sounded like someone looking to be offended.
Yes, my only complaint with him is where he was drafted.
So I’m not like the media critiquing a Democratic candidate. I actually try to be balanced.
Some people have an issue with that.
I hope you are not insulting Reggie Willits. I loved the way he played the game. Passion!!
How many MLB games have you played in? I am guessing 414 less than Reggie Willits,
Angels & NL West..yes yes yes
That has been my point all along, labeling or categorizing is pointless.
Willits was a replacement level player with a bWAR of .1
But he was also a 7th round pick, Which made him one of the Angels better 7th round picks.
How much you are paid and the spent draft capital are important factors in evaluating a player. What a shocker…right?
As a first round choice, he’d be a pathetic pick.
Not one person asked YOU to be Schanuel’s evaluator.
Here is a concept. Be a fan and root for the player
At this point I don’t care where he was drafted, You can’t change it.. You CAN be happy for him and wish him well.
I’m not allowed to voice my evaluation?
Next time I’ll ask you for permission.
As you should.
You could work for Facebook, or pre-Elon Musk Twitter.
You are seriously trying to judge him on a tiny sample size in pro ball since being drafted?
You really think we trust your judgement on his swing? More than Minassian’s opinion? More than all the prospect experts that have said he will have average power?
That’s 18-20 HR.
Willits was the 10th best 7th round pick by the Angels.
#1 was a schlub named Edmonds with 60.4 WAR
Gwynn never called himself a punch and judy hitter.
Schanuel had an .868 SLG in college this season. What part of that points to not having power?
No you don’t. You are the Newsmax of Mlbtraderumors commenters.
You are allowed to voice your opinion. We are allowed to tell you that you are wrong as always.
Tony Gwynn never said that. Talked with him hundreds of times over his career and never once did I hear or read him saying those words.
Tony hit 16 HR in his first 300 PA in A and AA ball and everyone expected him to hit for 20 HR power in the majors. He made a conscious decision to hit for average and give up on hitting for power until Ted Williams challenged him and he hit double digit HR at age 37-39.
He could have easily been a career .280 hitter with 300 HR and no one would remember his name.
Instead he chose hitting for average and will likely be the last hitter with 3000 hits and more BB than strikeouts in his career and is an immortal.
You are trying to compare Bochte’s career to Mark Grace;s career? Are you on crack?
Grace was great player. 46 WAR over a 16 year career.
Bochte was a below league average player with 19 WAR over 12 seasons.
I Googled it. Now google might be wrong.
But it really makes no difference as far as the definition is concerned..
In 1986, Oil can Boyd called Pettia. Judy hitter, but not Schofield. Since you are so brilliant, you must remember the context.
I guess you don’t know Tony as well as you thought you did.
I just listened to him saying it. His own words.
Whoops.
From everything I’ve read and heard about him, he might be another Sean Casey-type. Great contact hitter, average power (16-18 HR; peaking at 25 HR), but much better eye at the plate. I love that he can draw walks, something desperately needed on the club.
This team could sure use some Punch and Judy hitters.
Put the ball in play, primarily hit singles, run into one every once in a while, hit for average and get on base.
With the fistbase/DH profile, it’s not someone I’d spend the 11th pick of the draft on, but it’s a better profile than most of the players in our current lineup.
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That BB to K ratio is elite, but wow!
Go get em kid
And Oakland with it’s Shortstop fetish takes a weak singles hitter that so far in a small sample size doesn’t hit RHP with the 6th pick . FFS.
Yeah Wilson was a bad, bad pick that high, and most of the industry knew it. He and Schanuel (who are similar style hitters) should have been reversed.
Wilson was an underslot selection, and he’s played quite well as apro so far. Perhaps it was a reach, but if Naylor and/or Echavaria(?) work out then it’s a good draft even if Wilson isn’t as impressive as Schanuel.
He’s not even on Yahoo Fantasy Sports yet!!
I actually really like this for the Angels. Not that irl change the trajectory of their misery, but because he clearly wasn’t going to be challenged in the minors. His approach is almost without a comparison to go off of, so let him figure it out at the highest level.
His approach is almost without a comparison
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Madrigal
Madrigal is entirely possible.
Madrigal had an .868 SLG in college?
Nope. Madrigal had a .511 SLG his junior season.
Not a good comp to a guy that had an .868 SLG.
The only negative from this would be the “Bobby Dalbec effect”; absolutely rake for the short sample size left of this seaaon, go into next season with big expectations and fall flat. You would hate see the kid’s development get stifled if he has early success and then failure on a grand scale the next year but since nothing else the Angels have done has worked so why not i guess…
I know that the Angels love their prospects, but imo, it is too early. It is the same with Adell, and it is looking that way with Joyce and Neto. The MLB is a tough environment to learn how to play. It feels like they are almost scared to play guys in AAA.
Lol. They left Adell in Salt Lake forever. In fact that was one of the factors that destroyed his career.
They promoted Adell when he only had 121 AAA PAs. It wasn’t enough, particularly given how bad he was in those 121 PAs.
Most players need a lot more AAA time.
Just over 40% of position players never played in AAA before being called up to the majors. That still means most need time in AAA.
There was no AAA or AA or any minor leagues in the year he was called up so he couldn’t get more at bats in the minors that season. The choices the Angels had was let him waste time playing in scrimmages or see if he could cut it in the majors. They found out he couldn’t cut it.
But given the choices, they made the right one at the time. He had too much talent not to at least give him a try.
Adell was a desperate promotion. It was a short season, minor leagues were not being played, and they didn’t have three outfielders.
If this is a desperate promotion, it’s Minasian desperately trying to keep his job.
Adell was promoted in his 4th season in pro ball after being drafted out of high school. The only reason the Angels did that is because there was no minor league baseball in 2020 and he had hit quite well the previous season across 3 levels.
The Angels said they felt not bringing him up for that 60 game season and having him only get scrimmages with players in his own system would impede his progress.
Good thinking Bad outcome. Hindsight is 20/20.
“Hindsight is 20/20.”
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No. I ,mentioned this at the time as some of the Angel fans attest to, as they disagreed vehemently with me.
“he had hit quite well the previous season across 3 levels.”
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But not in AAA, and that’s what counts. He was arguably the worst player in the league. He had a 43/10 K/W in 129 ABs, with -0- HRs.
Ward & Walsh were on that team, with a 1.011 and 1.109 OPS each. For comparison purposes, Adell had a .676. Adell wasn’t remotely close to being ready. His 55/7 K/W was entirely in line with his AAA results.
You missed the salient point. There was no 2020 minor league season.
Adell could have no season and definitely not progress any or the Angels could give him a shot.
Going to the majors in 2020 didn’t derail his career. His lack of pitch recognition did.
He went right back to AAA to start his 2021 season and got those at bats you are claiming he needed. Then came back and didn’t play well for the Angels. So obviously that wasn’t the cure for his lack of pitch recognition.
There was no AAA in 2020. He was not going to get AB in AAA in 2020.
He got plenty of AB in AAA to start the 2021 season and it didn’t help in the majors late that season when he was called back up.
Trying to say that it was the reason he hasn’t succeeded in the majors is specious at best. The reason he hasn’t succeeded is he swings at too many pitches outside the zone and strikes out too much. More at bats in AAA will not help him see major league pitching better.
So please just stop. Adell has not failed to be a good major league player because he hasn’t had enough AAA at bats.
AAA doesn’t count when it’s the PCL. I would not even want my best prospects to play in that insane hitting environment unless I was the Rockies.
2020 had no minor league season, so what you are saying Joe is you would have preferred that the Angels best prospect just sit out the year and not have any shot at progressing. Guess what, that was not what any team did with their best MLB ready prospects that year. None of them agreed with your assessment.
When he didn’t play well in that 2020 season, Adell started his 2021 season where? That’s right, AAA. How did he do in Salt Lake? He crushed it when you look at the raw numbers. Still good when you look at numbers that take in the whole league – 122 wRC+ and 120 OPS+. Obviously, his confidence was not shaken one bit.
So, after getting 339 PA in AAA, how did he do when called back up? An 89 OPS+ you say? I wonder why? He got the AAA at bats you said he needed, and he hit well in AAA too. What was the issue do you think?
Same thing that had plagued him his entire career. A complete and total lack of pitch recognition. Its why he has struck out nearly 40% of the time as a professional. That has NOTHING to do with getting a few extra AAA at bats before getting called up.
I remember when players used to be able to include in contract to be called up by a certain time. Dylan Bundy was forced into the majors because his contract required it
Xavier Nady skipped the minor leagues.
Nady came up for 1 AB at the end of the 2000 season then proceeded to spend the next 2+ seasons in the minor leagues before returning to MLB in 2003
Part of that was because he had Tommy John surgery.
This is exactly why the Angels suck. Schanuel nothing personal but you didn’t earn it. Minasian turned the Angels into an expansion roster. That’s what it is when you have inexperienced rookies and aging veterans. His whole theory that he can match “major league ready” rookies who don’t have superstar potential w aging veterans and make the playoffs is a joke.
Why not bring him up? You give him a sample of what it is like to be an MLBer, If he does incredibly well it is a win for him and the Angels. If he struggles, he goes into the off season know what he has to work on.
Because the “why not” theory seldom works. I heard that three years ago with Adell.
That is a possibility.
There is a possibility he succeeds as well.
I’m not going to say it seldom works. K-Rod, Langford. Mike Witt, Neto! O’Hoppe before he got hurt.
2020 was a rare circumstance with Adell, it was a weird season.
Like anything else, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
Adell was a high school draftee, was brought up in 2020 when there was no minor leagues, and he had 3 years of the minors under his belt at the time. Apples to oranges.
Adell was brought up when no minor league games were being played.,
Not just apples and oranges but pretty much unique except for that one 2020 season.
Seemed to work just fine with Trout…
If you’re good enough you’ll come around
How is everyone missing the fact that the Angel have brought up a college player named Jim Abbott?
What a story he was!
If if’s were fifths the Angels would be drunk every day.
Every comment in here is an overwhelming
IF
This kids has never made an appearance on a big league roster.
Like you are every day?
Yes, I came here to say that. Didn’t Abbott get called up with no minor leagues? Played at Michigan then the Olympics and right to the majors after the draft.
Abbott had a great year.
A standout college player, got to play in the Olympics for his country, then right to the MLB diamond
FYI…to be fair it wasn’t a calendar year, but none the less a great 12 month journey.
In what way didn’t he deserve it? He’s destroying the minors and looks bored doing it.
John Olerud and maybe Winfield too ,straight to majors never in minors
What happened to Trey Cabbage
He got eaten alive at a Vegas buffet.
He was called up up, showed incredibly bad pitch recognition skills, striking out 48.6% and walking 0%, and was sent back down after 35 plate appearances.
Since being sent back to the Bees he continued that trend with 19 SO and just 3 walks in 57 AB and swinging at 53.3% of pitches outside the zone.
When he connects, its hard hit, but he may need contacts or something because he doesn’t seem to be able to pick up pitches.
Oh by the way the Guardians are only 1 game back in the loss column now. They may want to check the rearview mirror as there’ll only be 4 teams left there within a week or so.
I think one reason that players peak earlier is also that training at the amateur level improved.
The top Kids now start to lift weights at age 14 and they also get better information because every facility has radar guns,blast bat sensors or even rapsodo or hittrax. Also tons of slow motion video analysis of the best guys is available. That doesn’t mean they are better players but power, strength and mechanics often will be optimized earlier.
Cabbage has been turned into kimchee and is still underground.
Minasian is crazy. He’s a cowboy. He’s got too much too prove. -Paul Cicero
Minasian is a joke; haven’t been too impressed with how he runs the team.
When I first saw this I thought WTH are the Angels doing and then I looked at his line in A ball and AA since they drafted him and watched the few games they have with him on MILB.tv and this guy can hit.
Here is his slash line in the minors – .370/.510/.493/1.004 with .339/.480/.475/.955 of that in 16 games in AA. TINY sample size, but when you watch the games he is impressive.
Considering the Angels 1B are hitting .236/.306/.422/.728 in the 2nd half, I guess taking a shot with him makes at least a little sense.
Its been 23 years since a position player has been called up in the season he was drafted.
Good luck kid.
If “lolAngels” isn’t a thing yet, it should be
Wonder what this means for CJ Cron? He’s been dealing with back issues… might be heading to the DL?
Never should have traded for him after he was tied to purchasing oxy from Kay the last time he played for the Angels.
Eric Hosmer is my comparison to this guy. BTW Hosmer, Luke Voit, and Nelson Cruz are all available for peanuts. This is a desperate act IMO. Unless the Angels put on a miracle finish they don’t make the playoffs yet again.
What Hossmer?
Honestly, I’m looking forward to a guy who puts the ball in play, can run into one. Hits for average and gets on base.
I honestly can’t remember that last Angel consistently did that.
A first baseman with zero power… is as useful as Anthony Rendon is currently. Looks like a bad choice for your #1 pick in the draft and a very bad choice when they need pitching more. .
He doesn’t have zero power. Fletcher has zero power.
My guess is has has Scott Spiezio power. Post Angel Wally Joyner Power.
He’s a very interesting player. His profile was a lot more common 30 years ago. I’m not saying he’s Wade Boggs, or Tony Gwynn, but it’s an interesting profile.
Hopefully Nolan Schanuel will be the second coming of Lou Gehrig …
If you are insanely optimistic Wade Boggs.
I keep saying this, it’s an interesting profile, not one I would have invested an 11th pitch. Boggs was 7th round. Luis Arraez was a amateur free agent.
Since his profile is so uncommon, I don’t know how valuable he could be.
Trout?
Trout?
You mean a flyer that didn’t immediately work out?
The Angels best shot at making the playoffs is to fire Nevin and his coaching staff today. They should’ve stayed with Joe Maddon IMO.
Firing Nevin would have changed the number of injuries the Angels have had? Put down the bottle.
The Angels seem to be cursed. Nevin impresses me as a knee jerk replacement for Maddon. I would’ve kept Joe Maddon not his bench coach.
and the team would likely be 30 games under 500 if Madden was still at the helm.
I suggest the Angels put Ohtani at 1B full time for the rest of the season. Save his pitching arm for the playoffs. Ohtani needs to concentrate on hitting 62 HR.
What playoffs?
Jim Mora has entered the chat.
The Angels need a complete rebranding top to bottom. New name, new uniforms, maybe even a new venue.
Water front stadium in Long Beach!
There is simply no place to build a water front stadium. They talked about Long Beach Airport but that is just too close to low income, crime abundant area. The only place I can see is Rams/Chargers parking lot.
Whoa,whoa,whoa.that’s No way to talk to a long beach dirtbag!
And FYI i grew up near that airport, downtown and that side of life is a ways from that…
I live in OC now and have experienced far more crime here. It’s where the Money is…
And LB would gladly tear down the convention center to accomodate them. It’s been offered..
Yeah, there is.
presstelegram.com/2022/05/25/with-anaheim-stadium-…
There is the tried and true: The Los Angeles Adjacent Angels of Anaheim
They could also go with the O.C. Valley Boys of Anaheim in Los Angeles.
My personal favorites would be The Los Angeles Actors of Anaheim in California near the Pacific Ocean across the United States from New York! This could expand the potential market for Artie Moreno, so he could include California, the Pacific Ocean, New York, and the United States! The Actors part would pay homage to the teams ability to pretend to compete each season!
I really like that tha blue team’s name is literally translated “The Angels Dodgers”.
You see Los Angeles means “the Angels” in Spanish.
The LA Angels have been here since the 1800s
and way before the Dodgers game and tried to run our legacy out of town.
They even stole the Angels original LA logo
Yes the were a PCL team. But the level of play was pro.
Joe Dimaggio and Ted Williams played in that league amongst many others
Great move Kid can hit. Mature. What’s the point of minor leagues when he’s raking there. Special bat. At worst if there are growing pains at mlb level get it outta the way now.
See Casas Torkelson. Clock ticks
The clock only ticks when you promote him. Giving him some AAA time wouldn’t start the clock.
It also wouldn’t challenge him.
What’s the difference if they start the clock now versus starting the clock on opening day next year?
If the Angels think he might be a rookie of the year contender, getting him ABs now seems like a reasonable decision.
Joe, wasn’t referring to service time clock , referring to time in general. As why wait ?
Desperate. But not serious
Schanuel is listed at 6’4″. So is Ohtani. When they high fived after the Grand slam to me it looked like Ohtani was a good couple inches taller. Just saying.
Maybe Ohtani is really 6’6”?
He looks about the same height as Moustakas and Drury. It”s a little concerning that the 1st rounder advertised as 6’4″, who’s only hit 1 homer in the minors btw, looks more like a 15 HR guy than a 25 HR guy. His college slugging percentage was highlighted draft time.
Drury is listed 6’2″ Moustakas 6’0″. But hes a legit 6 footer maybe 6 1. Neto is actually listed at 6′ but looks 5’10 1/2 to me. I havent seen them in person just eyeballing off tv
I’ve seen Garett Anderson in person. That’s a legit 6’3, probably 4. And he’s listed at 6’3″.
I dont see much power in that swing and he certainly didn’t hit the ball hard yesterday. It looks like he needs to walk and put the ball in play. Isn’t that who is reported to be?
He is who he is, let’s hope he’s not less than he’s expected to be.
Schanuel’s nine pitch walk with two outs to bring Ohtani to the plate with the bases loaded was priceless.
Great AB. I also loved the throw to the plate.
I realize it’s a simple throw, but to make that throw in your first big league game, with the game on the line, was a thing of beauty.
I expected him, and am expecting him, to be a gnat at the plate, I wasn’t expecting that throw.
“We took a look at a lot of players and in the end, Nolan did a lot of things that we really liked and we really wanted,” said scouting director Tim McIlvaine. “He’s got power. He can hit. He knows the zone. He’s really patient. He rarely ever strikes out, took a lot of walks this year and had a lot of extra-base hits.” so the horse’s mouth himself listed power first when describing him when they drafted him. It makes sense now that his college coach was pointing out that he can play corner OF. I do think he looks like a good hitter. Good eye. I don’t know if the high hands will hold up. I just think for an 11th overall pick, if you you’re gonna pick a 1B of tye future I’d like to see a nore prototypical 1B masher. But that’s just me.
He’s got power?
Everyday I’m more and more convinced the Angels need to clean house.
You have been shown over and over in this thread that he does have power. He demonstrated more power in college ball this season than Dylan Crews.
An .868 SLG and 19 HR in 59 games. He grades out at 50-55 FV for power which says his future is 18 to 22 HR on average in the majors with a ceiling about 25-26.
But maybe you know more than anyone else in the world that actually works in baseball and you can read things in a stat line that no one else can. Maybe I will win the lottery without buying a ticket and fly to the moon this year.
websoulsurfer
You can’t debate with someone who wields the all might GOOGLE as his source of baseball information. Then you couple that with the fact that, as the Halo fan that he is, he thought they were playing in Florida this past weekend. AND….he has no idea that SoCal was about to be hit with a tropical storm. His opinion is the only one that matters, and no one is allowed to see it in a different manner.
Care to share your lottery winnings?
I see the swing. I see the minor leagues. I see what he’s done here.
Small sample size, out of every Angel to play this year, he’s second to last on hard hit pct.
I think scouts are expecting him to develop physically. Which is true, but with that swing, it’s not going to help much.
And why do you trust someone’s opinion who can’t key in Tony Gwynn Punch and Judy into a search engine? It’s an audio interview.
That is the kind of person who is not interested in having an actual discussion.
My opinion is He’s a Punch and Judy hitter who is more interested in contact than power. That’s Tony Gwynn, again audio interview. Why is that a bad thing?
You people want to be offended. Anytime someone challenges you, you don’t discuss the topic, you change the subject.
Another thing, anyone who goes to a link on a public board is a fool. I don’t supply links, I assume everyone can use a search engine.
So Angel1972.
I talk about Schanuel and you talk about the weather and being a fake fan.
So who is the one who doesn’t want to have a dialog?
Google Tony Gwynn Punch and Judy. It is part 5 of an Audio interview
Schanuel is 6 4 220 pounds. How much bigger do you expect that frame to get?
You hide behind calling me offended. I have repeatedly told you I am not at all offended. I know that I choose to give Schanual a chance, rather than label him or state that is was a bad pick, before he has had any chance to develop. .
Discuss what topic? The topic is Schanuel. I have said my belief in giving him a chance to develop before saying it was a bad draft pick.
I guess I am sorry that my positive outlook doesn’t coincide with your book of stats.
Dialog about what?
I am saying give him a chance before saying it was a bad pick.
So you want dialog on a purely hypothetical analysis that you have provided? Everything you are defending based upon a hypothetical that YOU have created.
Go back and reread everything being “dialogged” my stance has been all along that I think Schanuel should be given the chance to prove himself rather than being labeled before he had any opportunity to play.
That’s my opinion. It’s a lot less insulting than fake fan or self righteous.
Can we get back on topic. It’s not an insult to call him a Punch and Judy hitter. If you google what I suggest, you’ll hear it in Tony Gwynn’s own words. And you’ll hear Gwynn call Boggs a Punch and Judy Hitter.
Maybe he can take advantage of that short wall in RF and hit HRs, but with that contact swing, I don’t expect him to hit the ball very hard. I don’t expect many barrels. And honestly, I wish the Angels would get rid of that line.
A first baseman with that profile typically isn’t drafted using pick 11. I hope the Angels don’t screw with him trying to make him something he is not.
Disagree with that all you want. I welcome it. What’s a board without disagreement?
By the way, it’s a weird profile at the 11th pick, and I prefer to swing higher with the 11th pick does not quite equate to it was a bad draft pick.
I even wrote somewhere, I think he’ll have a higher WAR than the average or typical #11 pick..
I was not saying it was an insult to call him a punch and judy hitter.
Shouldn’t every hitter take advantage of their home ballpark?
His profile is elite in that he has shown, thus far, he has a great eye, It definitely warrants the Angels taking him and hoping he carries it throughout his career. Every single person drafted is a HOPE. There is no such thing as a sure thing.
My opinion is a true Halo fan would have a lot less pessimism on a prospect. I know I am a glass half full person, but I think it is a lot more fun to cheer for the player, then it is to look for potential flaws.
Yes every player should take advantage of his home park, maybe that was the reason for the 11th pick.
Yes it’s hope and speculation, and still a weird profile to take 11th.
And if you believe a fan has to wear rose colored glasses to be a real fan, we disagree. My definition of a fan was, if you go to a game and you know who the starting pitchers are before you get in your car, you’re a fan.
Everyone’s is different. Sorry about the rain thing, I hadn’t gotten in my car yet. That’s a metaphor, I no longer live in So Cal. But I use to have season tickets and had to leave at 5 to catch the first pitch.
It’s not hard to have a dialog,
Weird in what way? Because he is not prototypical?
The draft is a day of dreams for both the players and the teams drafting them. This years draft had about 20 players on or about Schanuel’s “mock status”. This kid has shown that he has a great eye, that in an intangible is extremely hard to measure.
How is hoping for the best for a player who has not yet stepped on a big league diamond, “looking through rose colored glasses”? . You have seemed to completely missed my point on that.
Because he’s a first baseman, who few expects to have first base power. Those guys typically don’t go 11th.
There are people who would rather be right than have things work out and be wrong. I’m not one of those people. I hope the guy hits 30 HRs.
My shoulders are big enough to handle the weasels who come out of the woodwork waiting for me to be wrong but running away when I’m right.
I believe all those Angel fans who think Adell is a bust hope they are wrong. But I don’t think any less of those fans for believing differently than I do.
I still am wondering…..
How is hoping for the best for a player who has not yet stepped on a big league diamond, “looking through rose colored glasses”? .
And to your point. Because he is a first baseman.
The game has completely changed in the last decade. Do you honestly think there is a mold for any position anymore? Guys that used to play multi-positions used the be “utility players” Shortstop used to be a glove first position. No one heard of a two way player before Ohtani. If Schanuel plate discipline carries out to the big leagues. There is a good chance people will be wondering why he FELL to #11.
You are playing both sides of the fence with your Adell take.
You are defending him, saying still needs time. But with Schanuel, he was a bad decision to pick at #11, even though he hasn’t even played a 1/4 season of professional baseball.
At his point of his career Adell has been a bust, but he also has plenty of time to turn it around and change that “label”..
Im not playing both sides. I’m not saying Adell still needs time. I’m saying I still think he’s going to be solid major league player.
We’ll find out if either or both were bad choices.
I prefer a higher upside at 10. More often than not that profile goes later in the draft. But if Schanuel turns out to be Bochte it will turn out to be a good choice.
Is there any opinion I can have that is different than yours that would be valid?
I think what Angelsfan1972 is saying is that you believe Adell, who has been horrific to date, can still develop into a solid major league player after 7 years as a pro, but you do not believe Schanuel will develop further, including power, despite the fact that he was drafted just a month ago.
Thank you for that civil response.
I think Schanuel can be a fine major league player. He may even take advantage of that right field wall and bang 10 balls off it for home runs, but I don’t think he’ll ever be a consistent power threat, even though this park will help turn many fly balls into Home Runs.
And as far that kind of player typically going 11th? Along with Jim Spencer, who was a gold glove winning firstbaseman, the Angels have never selected a firstbaseman that high.
Firstbase is a weird profile to take that high, but a firstbaseman who is not a power hitter and not a gold glove guy is an extra weird profile.
I happened to like Bruce Bochte. He certainly can be a Bruce Bochte, who didn’t hit for power but took advantage of the Kingdom.
And I don’t want him to change his swing, that’s the best way to screw up who he is. If they change that swing, maybe he can hit for power….but at what cost? Why draft him 11th, and promote him so quickly if you are going to screw with his swing?
You seem to play the stop attacking me card a lot Halo. I am restating what I think just as much as you are.
The problem is when I have an opinion you can’t refute you fall back on the
Is there any opinion I can have that is different than yours that would be valid?
And is was you who wanted to stick to the topic yet you haven’t “dialogged” back to me about
I still am wondering…..
How is hoping for the best for a player who has not yet stepped on a big league diamond, “looking through rose colored glasses”? .
And to your point. Because he is a first baseman.
The game has completely changed in the last decade. Do you honestly think there is a mold for any position anymore? Guys that used to play multi-positions used the be “utility players” Shortstop used to be a glove first position. No one heard of a two way player before Ohtani. If Schanuel plate discipline carries out to the big leagues. There is a good chance people will be wondering why he FELL to #11.
There is not a profile for players any longer. It is an evolving sport where no one in the Jim Spencer or Bruce Bochte days fits in how players step up to the plate or play in the field any longer.
Managers are told what analytics say. Base coaches coach differently, Pitching coaches and part coach/ part IT dept/ part psychologist.
Old profiles mean very little when it comes to draft day
Angels & NL West thank you for further clarifying. You hit it out of the park (unlike Schanuel I guess)
I’d rather talk topic than personality.
Sue me.
My mistake, I didn’t realize the Angels were one step ahead of all the other teams.
You are the one who accused me of looking at it through rose colored glasses. Your words not mine. So I would like clarification on what you meant.
So once again, I still am wondering…..
How is hoping for the best for a player who has not yet stepped on a big league diamond, “looking through rose colored glasses”? .
This is so typical of you. Not one person said they were ahead of all the others. You generalize to try and get out of a statement you made.
You do not need to make these accusatory statements when you can’t even have a civil dialog without trying to force feed your opinions. I tried having a civil conversation with you, but as soon as think the opinion of mine isn’t going your way you throw in
Is there any opinion I can have that is different than yours that would be valid?
Or tell me I am a fan looking at it through rose colored glasses..
You can’t even see how I was pointing out that you like Adell and I supported that opinion of yours and tried to use that to show you how I feel it should apply to Schanuel.
Is that moron still trying to say that Grace and Bochte are the same type of player? That after 100 or so PA as a pro that Schanuel has proven he is a certain type of player?
Once upon a time there was this guy named Adrian Gonzalez that was called up and showed absolutely no power. A .381 SLG after his first call up at age 22 with the Rangers. He had graded out a 50 FV power prior to being called up. His career at 1B just STUNK with absolutely no power right?
Halo is not worth your time. Just mute him. Your days will be better.
Didn’t seem that way to me. mlb.com/gameday/rays-vs-angels/2023/08/18/716945/f…
That escalated quickly.
Adams is a complete hack. Again making a mockery of the English language by not using proper grammar.
“Impressive as Schanuel’s college and minor league numbers are…”
You can’t just NOT put a word at the start of that sentence that belongs there. It’s “AS impressive as Schanuel’s college and minor league numbers are…”
Grammar is not optional for a professional writer. Fire Adams.
You are complaining about a site you don’t pay to read? Get a life. Better yet, be their editor for the same price you pay to read the site.
Free content isn’t above the standards for good grammar. I would certainly offer my services to them for proofreading. And if we’re going to make it personal, the giant screeds you’ve been posting on this site’s comments sections for some time now put you in no position to tell someone to “get a life.”
Yes, it is. You only get to complain about what you invest in. Either PAY for the site or shut up.
I know baseball well. I talk about what I know well. Its sad that you obviously don’t and your only comments are about grammar.
One final thing…I hope. What’s wrong with being a Bruce Bochte? He made the All Star team and had a nice career.
He was a second round pick. Pick number 34.
I really do like Schanuel leading off.
I really don’t understand why there are a couple people upset at me. As if saying a 300/400 average/OBP is an insult. I guess I’m suppose to think he’s a probable 300/400/500 guy. Meaning a future hall of famer.,
*it’s
Judging by how much you also write about politics, you don’t ONLY talk about baseball.
I know baseball plenty well, and I can comment however I damn well please. I don’t have to be beholden to your ideals of how commenters should be have. How pretentious to think that your way is the best.
Or that only people who pay for something have a right to comment on its quality. News flash, but that’s not how our society works. I pay zero dollars in property taxes—I’m a renter—yet my child enjoys free public education at our neighborhood school. I have a right to criticize it and seek improvement.
Now shut up and go back to rooting for your sub-.500 team that pays up the nose for mediocrity.