The Twins have a strong enough rotation that rival clubs are expressing interest in their starters, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. That’s not to say that the club is shopping any of those pitchers or seriously considering the incoming offers, but it seems it is an avenue that could be available to them prior to the deadline.
The Twins lost Tyler Mahle earlier this year when he required Tommy John surgery and have been without Chris Paddack all season due to him undergoing the same procedure last year. Nonetheless, they still have a five-man rotation of Sonny Gray, Joe Ryan, Pablo López, Bailey Ober and Kenta Maeda, all of whom are generally pitching well to varying degrees. Maeda is the only one with an ERA above 4.13, and his 4.62 mark is skewed by a 10-run drubbing he suffered earlier in the year just before landing on the injured list.
The club would be under no pressure to move anyone from that group. Their 54-50 record is strong enough to put them atop of the American League Central, a game and a half clear of the Guardians. But the interest might be a symptom of this year’s strange market. The expanded postseason and some tight divisions have made it so few teams are clear-cut sellers, which seems to be leading to more trades between contenders. The Twins already made one such trade, as they and the Marlins swapped relievers earlier this week.
With so many other clubs looking for pitching, perhaps the Twins would consider trading one of those five aforementioned names in order to address a different part of their roster, then leaning on a depth starter. They have veteran Dallas Keuchel in the organization on a minor league deal, who has an ERA of 0.69 in Triple-A with an opt-out opportunity on deadline day. They have some other depth options on the 40-man roster like Louie Varland and Simeon Woods Richardson, though neither are having especially dominant seasons. Paddack could also potentially return in September, with Do-Hyoung Park of MLB.com reporting as much back in June.
The Twins have been reported to be seeking bullpen help and right-handed bats, while they are getting trade interest in their outfielders and now their starters. Perhaps that will put them in a position to make a “baseball trade” or two in the coming days, one that sees them upgrade for the pennant race by parting with major league pieces and keeping their farm system relatively intact.
As to which pitchers they could move, Ryan and Ober are young and haven’t yet reached arbitration, meaning it would be a shock to see them moved unless it were part of a very large deal. López just signed an extension in April and seems to be a long-term piece in Minnesota. Both Gray and Maeda are impending free agents, however, so perhaps Minnesota would have some more openness to a trade there.
Maeda, in particular, seems like he could be a sensible candidate. Britt Ghiroli of The Athletic reported earlier this week that the Twins gave some thought to trading him and giving his rotation spot to Keuchel. However, that’s still a tough decision since Maeda has been so good since returning from the injured list. It’s only been six starts but he has a 2.48 ERA, 34.4% strikeout rate and 8.6% walk rate in that time. Even when considering a “baseball trade,” it’s tough to subtract someone pitching that well.
Gray has a strong 3.15 ERA for the year but has hit a small rough patch of late. He had a 2.50 ERA until a couple weeks ago but allowed 13 earned runs in his past three starts. He has a long track record of success, so it would surely be difficult to trade him as well. The Twins picked up a $12.5MM club option on his services for this year, which will leave just over $4MM left to be paid out at the deadline, before he reaches free agency at season’s end. There’s been nothing to suggest the Twins have considered moving him, but it’s likely other clubs are interested.
Maeda’s contract is a bit more complicated as he has a $3MM base salary but huge performance bonuses each year. He gets an extra $1MM for reaching 15 and 20 starts per year, followed by $1.5MM for starts 25, 30 and 32. He also gets $250K for reaching 90 innings pitched and that same bonus every 10 innings after that, all the way to 190, before a $750K bonus at 200 innings. His injuries have limited him to 10 starts and 48 2/3 innings so far, but he still has time to trigger some of those incentives, in addition to having about $1MM of his base salary remaining at the deadline.
The Einheri
Get them a good right-handed corner OF bat and a strong reliever, and I think the Twins would part with Sonny Gray.
Armaments216
Is Gray eligible for a QO from the Twins this offseason?
crise
Yes, and it’s expected they’ll extend one which is why Maeda makes better sense for a mid-year deal. They don’t get a good draft pick when he leaves this winter.
The Einheri
Yeah, the QO is worth going for, which is why any trade for Sonny would have to compensate the Twins accordingly. But I keep hearing people saying that Sonny is unhappy with the Twins coach; probably just idle rumor. Still, give the Twins a good package of players for him, and I think Sonny would be gone.
ohyeadam
He made a comment last year about wishing they would let him go deeper into games. I believe Twins starters have thrown the most innings this year
slydevil
He’s butted heads with Rocco a few times this year because he was pulled but wanted to stay in. The relievers that came in immediately gave up the lead.
But there have been times he’s struggled and they let him work through it too. Could be water under the bridge. He’ll still probably be in another uniform next year.
CaptainHooks
Yes.
Redsoxx_62
Maybe the rays will sign Nelson Cruz and try to trade him to the twins for Joe Ryan?
Motor City Beach Bum
Foley, Cisnero and Ibanez for Austin Martin and the injured Chris Paddack OR for Brooks Lee and a flier. Foley is closer material.
superunclea
no way Brooks Lee leaves the organization unless they are offered 2-3 AAA ready guys for him. they are high on him.
Motor City Beach Bum
You got it. Tyler Nevin, Zach Logue and Garrett Hill on their way!
martras
Ummm… what?
First off, no, Foley isn’t closer material. You want to see “closer material?” Take a look at Jhoan Duran.
Second, no team in baseball is trading one of the top prospects, a stud potential SS no less, for a relief pitcher…
Cisnero is a middle reliever, Ibanez can’t hit. The Twins would be interested in a right handed bat (meaning a batter who can hit, not just swing the bat right handed…)
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Tiger fans also think they can just trade Baez……
martras
Yeah, Baez is going nowhere. If Tigers fans want to be really optimistic, they could pray he exercises his opt out for some inexplicable reason, haha.
Gerttime101
You’re joking right?
Sounds like a delusional Awful Tigers fan
Motor City Beach Bum
Yes because Correa has been soooo much better.
twins33
Correa hasn’t been good, but yes he’s been a lot better than Baez.
This year only:
Pretty much have the same K%
Correa walks way more
Correa still has above average ISO, Baez way below average
wRC+ is 95 for Correa and 61 for Baez
Fewer swinging strikes and more contact for Correa
Baez has an astounding nearly 50% swings on pitches outside the zone while Correa is near league average.
Motor City Beach Bum
Yes, they are both bad and Baez is likely worse. Bad is bad! At least they play good defense.
twins33
I just have issue with the way you’re phrasing it. And don’t confuse this for being upset, because it’s not like I care that much, just having a baseball conversation.
Correa hasn’t been good…but the “like Correa is so much better” and “Baez is ‘likely’ worse” phrasing.
It’s not even close, Baez is significantly worse offensively. Baez’ 61 wRC+ is dead last by 21 points for all shortstops who have had at least 350 PA.
The opposite equivalent would be like saying Matt Olson is as good as Ohtani offensively this year. While Olson has been very good, he’s nowhere near as good as Ohtani.
Motor City Beach Bum
They’re both having bad seasons. We would trade Baez for the last guy drafted this year, eat most of his salary and its likely no one would take him. That’s how bad he is this year. I wasn’t comparing them.
Seems like 3 of the 4 big shortstops who signed that year have not worked out as expected. Story is fragile, Baez has been terrible for two years and Correa is not playing well this year. Guess we give the win to the Phillies so far on that
Gerttime101
Correa will rebound, Baez won’t make anymore $. The team has some nice young pieces but let’s be real, it’ll be 3 yrs until you’re taken seriously. Badoo is from our system we gave away and am a fan of the bullpen especially Lange but let me know how the 2030 postseason is
Motor City Beach Bum
Don’t be mean 😉 Well, I guess we’re supposed to be a little bit given our teams are in the same division. The Tigers should be competitive next year or the year after. Pitching is there they just need to add a couple more hitters by trade or promotion. Minnesota has a great pitching staff and good stable of young players to remain competitive for awhile. As much as i dont like him, Correa is too good not to rebound. Baez will have a good year again at some point, likely followed by two bad ones! Hopefully we trade him for something the minute he shows signs of life.
martras
@Motor City Beach Bum
I was expecting the Tigers to be more potent than they have been, but it’s been rough for them and I don’t see much in their farm system to turn the tide. The good news is after Cabrera’s brutal contract finally drops, the Tigers will probably have at least $100MM of payroll space to fill up so they’re easily going to be able to replace Rodriguez and add on top of that. Free agency is the only hope the Tigers have, and they do play in the AL Central so it’s not like any of the teams are any good.
I’m actually less hostile towards the Carlos Correa and Javier Baez similarly down years concept. They’re pretty close in terms of fWAR 1.1 vs 0.7, respectively, though Correa is slowly trending up. From a bWAR perspective, it’s a bigger gap at 1.1 vs. 0.4, but in the grand scheme of things, neither one is playing well enough to not want an upgrade at the position and Correa’s additional $11MM salary more than makes up for the difference. Of course, Baez is superior to Correa defensively, which is why the WAR values are as close as they are.
dennymagnet
Do whatever it takes to package Buxton, sure he’s got mad skills, but enough already. Too expensive and injured to slot at DH.
martras
Buxton can’t be moved. Full No Trade Clause, nobody would take him anyway.
The Natural
I highly doubt that the Twins would move a rotation guy. They’re in it to win it and the AL Central is theirs for the taking with the club they have right now.
ohyeadam
Maeda, Paddack and Keuchel are easy to see going since the price for started is sky high right now. Maeda and keychel to a team in need of innings this year. Paddack for a team in it next year
martras
I could see teams being potentially interested in Maeda, Keuchel if they need some rotation depth. Paddack isn’t going to draw interest, I don’t think. He’s likely not going to be able to pitch more than a handful of innings this year and he’s over a month away, if he does pitch. Teams interested in him for next year can just wait till the offseason.
bombo
Paddock is signed for two more years, they won’t be trading him this year.
bombo
Paddack is signed for two more years, they won’t be trading him this year
ohyeadam
The thought on trading Paddock now is you can get something for this playoff run without losing anything from your 26 man. The acquiring team would be going for next year/year after
rickoppelt
Maybe the marlins will trade for Pablo Lopez
Arnold Ziffel
And get Arraez back. Worst trade ever.
Arnold Ziffel
And get Arraez back. Worst trade ever
NewYorkSoxFan
Hmm Sonny Gray for Duvall, Dalbec and Winckowski with Minnesota eating most of the cash?
This one belongs to the Reds
I’d laugh if the Reds tried to get Sonny Gray back.
Larry Brown's crank
it would be great, Reds! for Encarnacion strand? (joking)
hyde_and_bleak
Ryan Mountcastle for Maeda.
Already a crowded corner outfield situation in Baltimore with some young guys ready to fill in next year. Twins get multiple years of Mountcastle.
dano62
You better up that offer then. Even with recent struggles Mountcastle is worth way more than Maeda.
FullMontilla
If they move, Maeda’s the guy. And there are many teams that would be interested in him, regardless of the complexities of his deal. He’d be a great fit for the Giants
#1WhiteSoxFan
Keuchel available!
Moneyballer
They need to be adding not subtracting.
CO Guardening
Waiving the Chicago White Flag isn’t really the Twins style. Even if they were 1.5g back, I see them trying to add a bat and competing through the season.
martras
Especially since Falvey (essentially GM) has likely been put on notice recently by ownership. Joe Pohlad insinuated ownership’s patience is thin and they expect to advance in the playoffs at this point, not just get there.
martras
Maeda “probably” would take the $20MMish qualifying offer it the Twins made it, but he’s likely to make more than that in free agency. I doubt he’d get more than $50MM if he declined, though. So probably Kenta Maeda on a 1 year $20MM contract (which isn’t terrible) or Comp B (end of 2nd round)
Sonny Gray would definitely reject it, and if he decided to keep playing, he’d receive well over $50MM and the Twins are probably going to receive revenue sharing again this year. So Comp A (end of 1st round). Sonny Gray has talked about retirement. That would be interesting. I think if he announces his retirement before the Twins could make a QO, they’d get the shaft, haha.
Parting with arguably the ace of the staff (Gray), losing a Comp A pick and having nobody of that caliber to replace them in the playoff rotation would be folly.
I actually have more confidence in Maeda than I do Gray at this point as Maeda has been absolutely great since his return from arm fatigue in late June (2.48 ERA, 2.79 FIP, 3.34 xFIP). Maeda works much more efficiently than Gray and with him being built back up, it’s likely he’ll be pitching deeper into games to help the bullpen out a bit.
I’d love to see the Twins move Keuchel. After watching the former Cy Young winner pitch in St. Paul, I like his ERA a lot better than his actual performances. If the Twins can get a team to bite on Keuchel’s 85mph fastball being effective at the MLB level, great.
I wouldn’t mind parting with Winder, Woods-Richardson or Varland, either. Unfortunately, Paddack is still too far away for anybody to have interest.
fburner88
Maeda is not eligible for a QO
martras
@fburner88 – Why do you think Maeda’s not eligible? He’s been on the Twins 40 man roster all year, he’ll be a free agent and he’s never received a QO before.
twins33
I’m pretty sure that person is actually right. Once they said it, it triggered my brain. It’s in his contact specifically that he becomes a FA at the end of his contract meaning you aren’t allowed to even QO him. I remember this was brought up when the Twins traded for him.
It’s listed that way on Cots contract site and no one else who is going to be a FA has the wording “becomes a FA at contract end” except him.
3768902
No.
twins33
I’ve warmed up to trading Gray. Before now, I thought it would be dumb, but his K% keeps dropping year by year and month by month. We may slowly be seeing his decline. I don’t think he would accept a QO, but it wouldn’t shock me if he did.
If someone wants to overpay for him, fine. The big issue is that there may not be anyone who can put up a fight at the MLB as much as he usually does. Keuchel is smoke and mirrors, in my opinion. Varland has a hard time striking out major leaguers. SWR is a mess this year. They would need to trade Gray for the next Joe Ryan.
I just quickly looked through AAA stats and no one is even close to putting up the numbers Ryan did in AAA before he came to the Twins. So, I guess I may be back to not trading Sonny unless Varland somehow does a 180 from what he’s done so far, but no way to predict that.
martras
Yep. If the Twins trade Gray or Maeda, the person most likely to step into the rotation is Dallas Keuchel. That’s an enormous drop off for a Twins team barely clinging to a playoff spot.
I’m not sure there’s a huge impact on the playoff rotation effectiveness as Keuchel still wouldn’t be a playoff starter, it’d just swap Ober and Gray.
The Ghost of Ed Hobbs
With the Twins in StL, and the Cards needing a long term pitcher & a filler arm for the remainder of the season, perhaps a trade is brewing. Some mix of Flaherty, Carlson (or Edman), & Woodford could be in some kind of mix for Pablo & Dallas and prospects.
martras
The Cardinals have no need for a filler arm, and the Twins have no need to trade a bargain like Lopez. The Cardinals will get their long term arm in free agency. Probably somebody like Gray or Maeda or Stroman. No need to blow prospects on trading for a guy they can’t use right now.
fletch
Whomever the Twins trade it will be the wrong choice. Clueless front office with no baseball knowledge running the show.
Larry Brown's crank
that’s what I love about them..signed……Redsfan
CaptainHooks
The Twins need to DFA Joey Gallo and sign either Nelson Cruz or Miquel Sano, either would be a vast improvement over Gallo and provide the right handed power bat the Twins need.
K Kr
KC series, writing on the wall here. Humiditity/temps and all, I get it. Also, the last dude that would ever want to see anybody “Fired,” etc. But this is just horrible here now, stretch run.
Systemic “Cancer” in the system-aside from Julien (They traded Arraez) for a #4, best case, they haven’t developed ANYBODY aside,essentially, and have most of this down due to bad payroll decisions, trades (Look up Falvey/Levine history HERE alone), DFA decisions-40 man choices, on and on. These new guys are all about analytics, what ever happened to common sense. Nice men, I have no doubt, but this DOESN’T WORK.
K Kr
PS-Trade um all, basically, for anything that you can get, and bring in the next TR that did it the right way, per the system, back in the day.