July 17: Cincinnati has formally announced the move; Encarnacion-Strand’s contract has been selected from Louisville, which fills the team’s 40-man roster. In a corresponding 26-man roster move, infielder Kevin Newman was placed on the 10-day injured list due to gastritis.
July 16: The Reds are calling up another of their top prospects, as FanSided’s Robert Murray (via Twitter) reports that Christian Encarnacion-Strand is on his way to the majors. The club may have to make multiple corresponding moves before Monday’s game, as Encarnacion-Strand isn’t yet on the 40-man roster.
A fourth-round pick for the Twins in the 2021 draft, “CES” has done nothing but mash since beginning his pro career, as he has a whopping .322/.386/.604 slash line and 56 homers over 946 career plate appearances in the minors. This includes hitting .331/.405/.637 with 20 home runs over 316 PA at Triple-A Louisville this year, leaving no doubt that the 23-year-old is ready for a bigger challenge.
It seems quite likely that the Reds would’ve called Encarnacion-Strand up earlier if it wasn’t for the fact that the team is already overloaded with quality prospects. The additions of star rookies Elly De La Cruz and Matt McLain have helped spark the Reds back into contention for the NL Central, while Spencer Steer (who made his MLB debut in 2022) has also been a huge contributor.
With the likes of Jake Fraley, Will Benson, and TJ Friedl also producing, the Reds find themselves with an interesting decision to make with Encarnacion-Strand’s position. CES has played almost all of his career as a corner infielder, with only a pair of games in the corner outfield spots. But, De La Cruz has been mostly playing third base since his promotion, and longtime star Joey Votto is still in the regular first base/DH mix since his return from the 60-day injured list. It’s say to predict Encarnacion-Strand as the eventual successor to Votto, but the veteran has been on fire at the plate.
It’s the proverbial “good problem to have” for manager David Bell and Cincinnati’s front office, and it could be the issue may solve itself in the form of an injury or a slump. Or, the Reds might simply rotate everyone through the lineup and make copious use of pinch-hitting opportunities or late-game substitutions in order to keep everyone (Votto in particular) fresh. With the deadline approaching, it also isn’t out of the question that the Reds could create space by trading one of their young prospects in a headline deal for a controllable, frontline starting pitcher. At the very least, it seems like Cincinnati will look to move veterans like Kevin Newman or Nick Senzel, whose playing time has been drastically reduced by the youth movement.
Encarnacion-Strand has made such a rapid rise up the minor league ladder that none of Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, MLB Pipeline, or The Athletic’s Keith Law had the infielder on their preseason top-100 lists. He currently checks in 83rd on BA’s ranking and 88th on Pipeline’s ranking, with both outlets praising his natural power and his arm strength. Questions about CES’ contact hitting seem to have been addressed in his Triple-A season, as his 10.4% walk rate is easily the highest of his three pro seasons, and he has also reduced his strikeout rate to 21.8%. A slightly more patient version of Encarnacion-Strand is a scary concept for pitchers, given his power and ability to hit to the opposite field.
Cincinnati brought Encarnacion-Strand and Steer into the organization less than a year ago, acquired along with southpaw prospect Steve Hajjar in the trade that sent Tyler Mahle to the Twins at the deadline. Since the Reds flipped Hajjar to the Guardians as the player to be named later to acquire Benson during the offseason, the Mahle trade has very quickly become one of the most productive swaps in recent team history. For Minnesota, the trade is already infamous, as Mahle battled injuries and made only nine starts for the Twins before undergoing Tommy John surgery in May.
King of Cards
It’s funny how all these prospects are magically ready to play big league baseball come July.
Funny strange. Not funny haha.
How about one of the writers does an article on this. I did one about the Cardinals a year ago. Then the Cardinals organization started changing and now both Walker and Gorman are projected to be super 2s.
This isn’t a coincidence folks.
falconsball1993
Yeah because McClain, De la Cruz, Abbot, etc were all manipulated too…
Move on guy.
King of Cards
I would have to look into it to see when those guys got called up exactly.
Keep in mind they can still be sent back down if needed.
I am not saying it happens with every single prospect or young player. But there is a large correlation between the time when super 2 can be avoided and when teams call up prospects.
kmk1986
Ya sure middle of a playoff run they might send them down you’re delusional
dhud
So you had no idea what you were talking about before you made a dumb comment
Baseball Babe
So a small market team like the Reds are supposed to say, “Oh well, I’ll call this player up two weeks earlier, and cost our team millions and a year of control — for a player that we will never have the resources to re-sign once they reach free agency — because, Darn It, it’s the right thing to do.”
titanic struggle
Agree.. but, he’s a Sparrows and Twigs guy. Every one of the guys the Reds have brought up have been ready, and CES has been ready for a long time. The problem has been, where to play him…
King of Cards
Senseless has a 690 OPS and the DH according to baseball reference is the second catcher.
He really didn’t have anywhere to play?
And if that was the case what changed?
dhud
DH has been rotated around 5-6 people to give days off in the field
If you’re referencing a third party website to try to tell us who the reds DH is, you have not followed or know anything about the team. So you really shouldn’t be trying to talk about it
dhud
Greene, Lodolo, India, McLain, Abbott, EDLC…
dhud
Ok to be wrong
Not ok to just start spouting stuff when you obviously have no clue
deweybelongsinthehall
Manipulated? Not really since it’s allowed under the CBA. Remember Bryant tried and lost his challenge.
YourDreamGM
July is actually late. Super two date will be some time in June. If it was just service time they could have called him up mid April.
King of Cards
Call up in April means super 2.
Can you name the last 3 Reds players who qualified for super 2 status?
I would like to know who they were.
YourDreamGM
I can do better than super 2. Hunter Green. They didn’t even f with the super 2. He made the opening day roster and they lost an entire season of service time! Bam! That’s why most people either mute me or don’t even try to engage me in conversation. Appreciate and respect that you aren’t scared.
YourDreamGM
Oh you wanted to. Jonathan India. No super 2. Lost entire year of control! Where you at? I just kicked over your house of cards and stomped all over you.
YourDreamGM
PS. I’m a Pirates Rays fan. There might be more Reds.
SODOMOJO
Holy lol
mlb fan
“Can you name the last 3 Reds players”…You’re the conspiracy theorist, shouldn’t you do a little basic research, before you go public with your half baked claims?
JoeBrady
Jonathan India. No super 2.
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IMO, GMs promote players way too early. In CES’ case, he had a 38/6 K/W in AA last year. He needed at least a half-year in AAA. I remember when Adell got promoted, he wasn’t even close to hitting AAA pitching.
Sometimes, with guys like Chavis & Dalbec, they kind of age out of AAA and you have to give them a shot. But way too many GMs are wasting 1-2 years of service time letting guys learn to hit in the pros instead of AAA.
A guy like Witt has a cumulative bWAR of 2.6 and he’ll have wasted two years of service time on a last place team.
ItsKirsten
Nah that dudes some sort of cooked up chatGPT bot, complete lack of intelligence
Datashark
Hunter Greene was NOT on opening day roster in 2022 – He pitched 125 innings that season – that completed his rookie status.
2023 – made opening day as a year 2 player.
ItsKirsten
he was on the opening day roster.
but the service time is moot because he signed an extension.
YourDreamGM
Datashark was NOT right! LMAO LOL HAHA
Chipsss
Wow all the people on here are so unbelievably cool!
earmbrister
Datashark, you need to check your data. Greene WAS on the opening day roster as a rookie in 2022 and started the fourth game of the season. He only pitched 125 innings because he got hurt and missed a month and a half starting early in August.
ItsKirsten
Trade deadline truly brings out the worst posters (this isn’t at you earm)
Its quite remarkable
mlb fan
“This isn’t a coincidence folks”..Just out curiosity, how many channels does your anti business socialisn tinfoil hat receive? I’m not happy at all with my cable provider.
King of Cards
I used to work for CenturyLink. If you want to hear some stories about it I would be happy to share. But then you would probably say they are just conspiracies……
mlb fan
Can tinfoil receive 4k picture quality?
dortmans
I believe last year was the first year for rule change rewarding draft picks for certain achievements by rookie players to try and deter service time manipulation, the Mariners got an extra 1st round pick for Rodriguez winning Roy, so I think it’s more likely coincidence than service time manipulation, and the call up is partly because the reds rebuild is moving quicker than expected and they’re contending for the playoffs this year rather than the lottery, more incentive to bring up a top prospect who’s position is blocked and won’t get full time spot, don’t think they would do that during a lost season without guaranteed playing time
King of Cards
It’s not a coincidence that prospects are always called up in June or July. It really isn’t.
Again this can be researched but it would take a lot of time. They aren’t paying me…..yet……
Tigers3232
Some of these teams are w calling ip players strategically and not so for service time. O’s for example are giving Grayson a shot at getting a few starts in before the deadline. His performance is gonna help measure their need for pitching.
In the Reds case, this is a little tricky calling CES up. He is definitely deserving and doesn’t have much left to prove at Triple A. But it also is not gonna benefit them or him calling him up if he can’t get in the lineup regularly. I’m thinking they re lining themselves up to make a big move here at the deadline.
Baseball Babe
The Os also called Grayson up earlier and he most definitely was not ready for The Show.
jbryant0693
Cards, if you knew anything, you’d know Reds don’t play service time games. Check India, Greene, Lodolo, & Steer who were not manipulated to start the season for the extra year of control. And then check De La Cruz who was called up just prior to Super 2 cut off this year and will be Super 2 after next season. If Reds would have manipulated ANYONE of those, EDLC would have been the one. But that’s 5 examples for you to chew on.
King of Cards
I already said I agree I looked it up
Have they always been this way? All those are rather recent examples.
Maybe they have.
YourDreamGM
YourDreamGM: Well they called up Joe Nuxhall at age 15.
King of Cards: So you are admitting they manipulated him! He should have been pitching at the majors no older than 11, age 12 at the most.
King of Cards
Dude you are trolling at this point. Heck the only reason you are arguing with me here is because we were arguing in another thread.
We can talk again after the Astros make that big deadline deal.
In other words……nice knowing you…….
floridagators
You are the epitome of an extra chromosome.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
And the Cardinals are awful.
Datashark
last year they had 93 wins – this year they are bad, biggest change was Yadier Molina (and Pujols) — seems like veteran presence is missed along with Wainwright implosions (he so needs Molina)
ohyeadam
Service time manipulation is a myth. Find one successful claim by a player.
Why wait until July? How long are they supposed to give the current player the rookie will be replacing a look?
JoeBrady
Why wait until July?
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No one holds back a prospect until July for service time.
I remember the writers accusing the RS of holding back Pivetta and Houck for service time reasons. Pivetta couldn’t pitch at all, and i am not sure if Houck is ready even now.
JoeBrady
Just for fun, I am copy an abridged article from Ronald Blum from 10/31/22. These are the major Super-2’s:
“Thairo Estrada, Karinchak Randy Arozarena, Nathanial Lowe, Brusdar Graterol, Tony Gonsolin, Taylor Ward, Patrick Sandoval’ Brady Singer,Kris Bubic,Santiago Espinal and Edmundo Sosa.”
That’s not a who’s who of minor league prospects. I seriously doubt even a single one of them was held back because the team wanted an extra year of control.
jorge78
All within the CBA rules big guy. Agreed to by the MLBPA.
This one belongs to the Reds
It will be interesting to see who goes. Not sure how he would play every day unless Steer is a LF for good now.
At any rate, glad he got the call.
titanic struggle
I hope Bell has enough sense to bat him behind Steer. EDLC, Steer, then CES. Imagine the pitches Steer will see..
Col_chestbridge
I think it kind of has to be India, right? Moved Elly to 2B?
I mean the rest of their hitters are significantly better hitters than league average by wRC+. The only ones that aren’t are India and their catchers. They actually already sent down Fairchild, whose 98 wRC+ would normally be great for a CF, but they wanted to make room for Steer/Fraley/Benson/Friedl
I think realistically you can move India to a 10th man role where he comes in and gives people days off. You can have him still play 3/4 times a week that way.
DCartrow
I’d trade India to Cleveland but he would have to change his name to Jonathan Guardia.
earmbrister
You don’t move EDLC, with that arm, to 2B. McLain would slide to 2B and EDLC to SS in your scenario.
Agree that India gets moved, or Casali.
Datashark
casali?! why that would not help unclog anything there
earmbrister
Casali is on the 26, and he DHs when he’s not behind the plate.
Moot for now, Newman to the IL. Seems like they’re trying to get to a deadline deal for someone in the meantime.
JCPenny
India could be a DH/2B/3B/OF and get 4-5 starts a week. I think Senzel and/or Newman probably just lost a roster spot.
titanic struggle
I think it’s Newman..
DCartrow
And it’s obviously made him sick to his stomach.
The Baseball Fan
Finally
YourDreamGM
How many 1000 ops seasons does a guy have to have to get promoted? Did they really need to see 300 and some plate appearances?
This one belongs to the Reds
Pretty much SOP for this organization. They don’t traditionally rush prospects.
Birdieman2
Where will he play?
YourDreamGM
His bat plays anywhere
This one belongs to the Reds
Glove is another story.
Motor City Beach Bum
Showcasing him for a trade. Off to the Tigers for pitching no doubt 😉
MIKE PAUL
WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING
Motor City Beach Bum
Or you could send us India for pitching 😉 I’m sure you could get Erod and Lorenzen for the right price. One stop shopping! How about a package starting with Collier instead. Pitching is going to cost you this year if you want to play in the deep end.
Tiger22matt
Neither of those pitchers get you CES.
hiflew
Yeah you need a top pitcher like Tyler Mahle to get him.
earmbrister
Yes, and neither of those pitchers get you Collier
King of Cards
Skubal would be popular
titanic struggle
Nothing you say has any relevance or weight towards the topic at hand. Enjoy the mold in the cellar.
Motor City Beach Bum
Ummh no. No chance on that. Erod maybe or even as part of a package for Erod and Lorenzen. Skubals off limits. He’s part of the future for the Tigers.
King of Cards
Does trade value simulator agree with your thoughts? I feel like that’s the best way to make a proposed trade in 2023. Doesn’t make it for sure right or fair but it’s definitely a start.
Does Rodriguez for Strand check out?
Motor City Beach Bum
Yes let’s ask HAL2000…
kidbryant
Not even close.
CES has 15.1 value
ERod has 5.9 value
King of Cards
Thanks for checking
That’s why we use the trade simulator folks.
DCartrow
HAL says ” Kier Dullea, gone tomorrow.”
Motor City Beach Bum
Yes HAL2000 tells you someone who has never played in the big leagues before is worth 3 of a guy having a Cy Young caliber season. St Louis fans just had this same annoying argument about how HAL2000 overvalues their prospects in the Gilbert article. If you want pitching it costs or you can develop your own, like you did with Greene and Lodolo. If you want to make the playoffs THIS year you are not waiting on them until August, you are trading for players because you have no mote replacements on the farm. Guess what? Most teams are still within sniffing distance of the playoffs so the prices, even for rentals like Erod and Lorenzen are going to be high. Don’t want to pay, watch teams like Texas and the Dodgers do just that and you’ll be left with nothing. All because you listened to HAL2000 😉
Tiger22matt
It doesn’t matter you’re not getting one of the Reds top 15 prospects for either of those 2 rental pitchers. They aren’t worth any of that they can keep them and lose them for nothing at that price.
douglasb
If the Reds are unwilling to trade any of their top 15 prospects, then they will not get anything to help their lousy pitching staff and likely be 6 games out of the race in September. That’s fine, it’s a young team. There’s always next year right? Or maybe the year after that. Or the next one.
Larry Brown's crank
doug….said the Washington Nats.
douglasb
Or the Mets for Scherzer. The Mets have given Vogelbach over 200 plate appearances already. I think that are ready to give up on Vogy and the season.
bidens_brain
They manipulate service time! It’s not fair! Blah blah blah…..
Fix the CBA! till then stop complaining, if you were a GM you’d do the exact same thing.
King of Cards
I am not a GM.
I am tired of cheaters and people who bend the rules until they are almost broken. Big pharma sells heroin legally they call it oxycontin. Amazon and other big corporations cheat and don’t pay taxes. And of course in baseball we have teams stealing signs or simply having payrolls that are double and triple what other years have.
Just tired of it. Tired of cheaters. Baseball and sports in general are supposed to be fair competition. Instead it’s just a bunch of rule breakers and cheaters.
ekrog
You clearly have no clue. Cardinals fan…yeah.
MIKE PAUL
wow, wake up from your dream, talking silly. trust issues i see
K R Stemen
You forgot to mention the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy in your conspiracy theories….
King of Cards
Are you saying teams don’t manipulate service time?
ekrog
The Reds didn’t in this case just like with others (Greene, India, EDLC, McLain).
Maybe your Cardinals do, but if so, they’re just playing by the negotiated rules. Don’t like it? Complain to the MLBPA.
joeshmoe11
Are you on crack? Reds already promoted higher-ceiling prospects this season. This has everything to do with finding a spot for him
King of Cards
Again I did a very in depth piece about this for the Cardinals. People kept telling me I was being crazy and the team doesn’t do this and I laid it out player by player.
They do.
Now does it happen with every single player? No but they do it.
The Cardinals haven’t had a super 2 since I don’t even know when. The only guy in the last 10 or 15 years to qualify would have been DeJong and he got an extension so it didn’t matter.
When was the last time the Reds had a super 2? I don’t know the Reds system well enough to say. If you do feel free to share. If I am wrong I will say so.
joeshmoe11
India, Greene, Lodolo all started the season on the roster the last 2 years. Stephenson and Barrero were brought up during COVID year before they would have. You’d have to go back to Senzel to find someone debatably held down and he’s been pretty terrible
King of Cards
Ok after doing a rather quick search it does appear the Reds don’t blatantly manipulate service time like most teams do. So good for them
Senzel is a unique case. They really didn’t have anywhere to play him. If Senzel could have played 3b when he first came up his career could have been entirely different.
I gotta say I don’t think the Reds are service time manipulators. Maybe this one actually is a coincidence.
YourDreamGM
@King of Cards That has to be embarrassing.
King of Cards
Are you mad bro?
It’s ok to be wrong. And to say teams don’t manipulate service time is false they do. The Reds aren’t doing it to any noticeable extent but most teams are.
You are wrong about the Astros and their ability to make a deadline deal. And that’s OK.
sportsarerigged
You say cheaters….but teams are operating within the bounds of the rules. Maybe we don’t like the rules but until they change, nobody is “cheating.”
And of all the cases to claim time manipulation, this was the one you picked?
King of Cards
Dude your name is sportsarerigged lol.
Are we having a serious conversation here?
People who bend the ruled and manipulate the system are cheaters.
YourDreamGM
I admire your tenacity. Most people would just change their screen name after that.
King of Cards
I bet the Astros don’t make a big trade at the deadline
Where you gonna be when that doesn’t happen?
Probably here. Because you have a reputation right?
They might get Lynn ot someone else overpaid. But Stroman or Giolito or Montgomery isn’t happening.
YourDreamGM
Well out of all the guys that are traded it isn’t likely that they will get those 3. I never said they would. But if they want to make a deal they have the trade chips.
JoeBrady
Reds don’t blatantly manipulate service time like most teams do.
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I don’t pay attention to every team’s promotions, but do the NYY, NYM, or BRS have any Super-2’s?
titanic struggle
So long Curt.. thanks for everything, and I mean that.
Larry Brown's crank
I was kinda thinking the same ,titanic…
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
So they aren’t trading him for Sonny Gray, as a user suggested? I guess not.
sascoach2003
The chosen one…finally
titanic struggle
Has been chosen…lol
Larry Brown's crank
So it shall be written….so it shall be done
Louholtz22
In a six game stretch, the Brewer’s pitching staff exploited the young red’s weakness’s at the plate. Time for a new call up…
DarkSide830
Future superstar
HBan22
Perhaps an immediate one.
Edp007
You guys should spend more time talking baseball. On the field. Not post after post about contracts and manipulation.
Larry Brown's crank
they’re manipulating all the manipulation talk.
NineChampionships
Insane how much young talent this team has. It’s looking like the Reds and Pirates will own that division for the next several years.
hiflew
I am just imagining how awful his uniform will look with that name on the back. It’s not like there are multiple guys named Christian Strand or Christian Encarnacion around.
GarryHarris
The Reds no doubt will be acquiring an SP or two. It’s just a matter of who will be traded.
This one belongs to the Reds
They should but haven’t done so through last offseason until now when they have needed at least one.
Therefore, I will believe it when I see it.
cguy
What this move really means is that there will be less PA for the few veterans on this team, including Votto, Newman, Casali, even Senzel. Unless they trade India, which I hope they don’t.
jcraft21
Votto on fire? Really. Is that what fire looks like?
Armaments216
Votto has a .951 OPS since he came back from surgery.
jcraft21
1-11 In Milwaukee series
jimd-2
If front office wants CES to play they will need to move someone off major league roster to give him playing time. I don’t see David Bell playing him against RH pitching over the current group of Votto, India, McClain, EDLC, Benson, Steer, Fraley and Friedl. I would be fine with India being rested for CES but I don’t think Bell will do that..
This one belongs to the Reds
I think Benson is the odd man out for regular PT and Steer becomes the pretty much regular LF. CES and Votto will probably swap 1B and DH duties.
Stinks for him but I don’t see how else it goes with the current roster. Newman pretty much is done getting any PT there and Barrero or him probably on the DFA train.
its_happening
It should be India. Steer to 2B, E-Strand to 1B, Votto DH. India comes in late in ballgames.
This one belongs to the Reds
India is the heart and soul of that young team. I don’t see that. It would destroy team chemistry. But the front office has done stupid things in the past so nothing would surprise me.
If so, probably more like McLain at 2nd, EDLC at short, CES at 1st, and Steer returns to 3rd. They have had that 2B/SS alignment when India was DH already.
its_happening
Heart and soul might want to start hitting better.
This one belongs to the Reds
He was before they moved him out of leadoff.
jorge78
The Reds minor league coaches deserve raises just like the Orioles hitting coaches who fixed Ryan O’Hearns swing immediately after the KC Royals coaches scratched their noogins for years and said “I dunno?”
You can be el cheapo on major league salaries but you better spend it on the minor league side or you’re doomed to be the KC Royals in perpetuity…..
JoeBrady
You know what I haven’t seen in a while? Those endless and repetitive articles castigating the Reds for trading the old guys.
mikeyny
Nobody ever wants to talk about the situations that go the other way. Anthony Volpe was called up WAY too early. Guy had an up and down season in AA last year. Barely played at AAA. Now everybody is down on the guy. Same for Jason Dominguez. Kid is 20 years old struggling at AA and everyone is labeling him a bust. He should still be in Rookie ball at 20.
jorge78
Matt McLain was picked in the first round (24th) out of high school back in 2016 and they couldn’t sign him. Sometimes it doesn’t pay to be cheap…..
RichReese
It’s not easy being a Twins’ fan.
jimd-2
I think Benson is going to play vs RHP, guy has raked ever since he was called back up. He was one of the few who had good at bats vs Brewers. India is the guy who should play less against RHP. He is really struggling at the plate and he is a negative player in field. Dropping India down to fifth last week I think was also a sign he is the guy to lose PT. Encarnacion-Strand is going to hit somewhere between 5th through 7th in order. Benson has done very well in the 9 hole.
trf000
Spenser Steer’s last 12 games: .205 .286 .273 .558
That is July’s numbers. He was white hot in June.
He’s going to lose some AB’s as the DH. CES is likely the DH and 1B when Votto sits. Casali is probably DFA’d. Steer to a platoon role when Votto sits.
octavian8
India seems most logical to be traded but do we do it now or off season? Big concern is how it affects team chemistry going forward. Should net a decent return if that’s what is happening.
Motor City Beach Bum
Ship him to the Tigers in a package for pitching help. We have starters and bullpen help and need a solid infielder who can hit.
Tiger22matt
Yeah India is worth more than either of your rentals. You’re not getting talent like that for those guys just hang it up.
Motor City Beach Bum
I said pitching help in the post which doesn’t limit it to Erod and Lorenzen. Last I heard Cincy needed bullpen help as well and the Tigers have controllable BP arms in addition to young MLB or AAA starters. There are any number of permutations that could come into play there which potentially could include Erod or Lorenzen too. IF Ci cy wants pitching they will have to shell out for it just like other teams. The cost for pitching is going to be high at the deadline. Sellers market thus year. Don’t overestimate the value of prospects dude, they invariably let you down. India could well get shipped out too; SF checked in in him last year and you have a logjam of IF’ers in Cincy. They’re going to trade someone.
Tiger22matt
Not for mediocre rental pitching. For Lorenzen or ERod the Tigers can have a lightly used Newman and a non top 30 prospect. If the Reds are paying more than that it’s not worth it. The Reds are a year ahead of the process and have more young pitchers coming so they don’t need to grossly overpay by giving up a CES or India for mediocre rentals.
Motor City Beach Bum
Erod is a mediocre rental? You obviously haven’t watched much baseball this year dude. He has pitched lights out. Better than Mahle did when you guys got CES and more for him. Plus like I said, I was talking about “pitching” which includes but is not limited to Erod. Good luck getting a decent pitcher for Newman and a non top 30 prospect!
Tiger22matt
The point is the Reds don’t need to make a trade. They are way ahead of schedule. They do have to get rid of players but your looking at Newman, Senzel and Casali. No point in trading India or CES unless your getting something better than rentals.
gavilan
C.E.S. for SNELL. plus some $$$$.
Larry Brown's crank
reds can do better than that. and why would they call him up to trade him? that would hurt is value, as most rookies struggle
ItsKirsten
15 day IL for a tummy ache is a new one.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
I blame Skyline Chili
This one belongs to the Reds
Gastritis. That’s rich!
DCartrow
Skyline Chili.
Best colostomy prep in the midwest!!
octavian8
More like a bruised ego perhaps
Old York
Guy’s gonna rake. I feel bad for top MLB pitchers who will have their careers ended due to him.
redhaze1
Newman has gas? And he needs fifteen days to get better??? Not sure he is tradable now.
This one belongs to the Reds
10 days…so he magically gets better right before the deadline when they get a 28 year old AA pitcher for him that will be in the Reds bullpen the week after.
But It Do
If you start a sentence with the word “but,” you don’t need a comma after it.
GarryHarris
The 2006 Marlins has the greatest rookie call up team ever. This years Reds could be better.