The D-Backs and Rays are among the clubs with interest in Cardinals reliever Jordan Hicks, reports Mark Feinsand of MLB.com (Twitter link). The Rangers were tied to the hard-throwing righty this afternoon. Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch wrote this afternoon that the Yankees also had some interest in Hicks.
Hicks has seemed a likely trade candidate for a while. He’s an impending free agent on a St. Louis club that is openly turning its attention to 2024. He’s having a good season, posting a 3.67 ERA through 41 2/3 innings and climbing back to a high-leverage role. Hicks offers a rare blend of strikeouts (31.2%) and grounders (58.3%). Even with below-average control, his power arsenal is obviously appealing to clubs.
A few days ago, it seemed as if Hicks might surprisingly come off the market. The Athletic’s Katie Woo reported that his camp was in talks with the Cardinals about a potential multi-year extension. However, Goold reported yesterday those conversations hadn’t gained much traction.
Feinsand suggests an extension hasn’t entirely been ruled out. However, Woo echoed Goold’s reporting this afternoon, writing that talks have stalled and a trade seems probable.
Virtually any team with postseason aspirations this season could be a viable suitor. Even clubs that don’t need back-end bullpen help could add a reliever to the middle innings. Arizona has a stronger need than Tampa Bay on paper. The D-Backs rank 23rd in bullpen ERA (4.57) and 19th in strikeout rate (23.2%). The Rays are seventh in ERA (3.74) and 26th in strikeout percentage (22.1%). The Rays’ overall bullpen numbers are dragged down a bit by how often they rely on relievers and bulk pitchers following openers. Only the A’s and Giants have used their bullpen for more innings, which will naturally weigh down their dominance on a rate basis.
Of course, there’s no indication the bidding for Hicks is down to Texas, New York, Arizona and Tampa Bay. The Cardinals’ front office is presumably in conversations with a number of clubs about their trade candidates. Hicks joins Chris Stratton as impending free agent relievers on the St. Louis roster. Starters Jordan Montgomery and Jack Flaherty are also headed to the open market and likely to be dealt this summer. Their markets are mostly unreported, but each of Texas, Arizona and Tampa Bay is also known to be looking for rotation help. Shortstop Paul DeJong figures to move as well.
Those short-term assets — paired with Dylan Carlson, who has gotten increasingly squeezed out of the outfield picture — have seemed St. Louis’ most likely trade pieces. Brendan Donovan and Tommy Edman have drawn interest from other clubs, but Woo unsurprisingly writes the Cardinals aren’t interested in trading them. That’s also true of power-hitting second baseman Nolan Gorman, who has five seasons of club control beyond this one.
mgomrjsurf
Matz also maybe.
pohle
no arenado mention
asdfgh
Nope because that’s not going to happen. If you are a cardinals fan you know he’s not going to be traded. If you aren’t stop being a dumb homer it’s not happening just like that girl you are fantasizing about. Not happening . Dodgers/Rangers fans eat a big one to shut the hell up. Dodgers go cry me a trash can.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Monty and Arenado to Dodgers for Vargas, Pages, Stone, Sheehan, Bush and Miller.
If Mo wouldn’t do that he’s a MOron!
BrianStrowman9
The dodgers aren’t going to give up a package with Miller for those 2. Arenado has much less trade value than you think.
FrontOfficeStan
Because Arenado isn’t going anywhere.
mgomrjsurf
Or Goldy or O’Neill.
Bart Harley Jarvis
or Contreras.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
They should trade Goldie and open up 1B for Walker. Love Goldie, but he’s gonna be what, 37 next year?
O’Neill would look good as Philly’s everyday LF. Philly is in win-now mode, and the Cards could solve their CF problem for the next ten years with Johan Rojas
Lanidrac
No, Matz has two more years on his contract and has played his way back into their rotation plans. There’s no point in trading him only to need to acquire yet another starting pitcher for next year.
Tigers3232
Matz pitches a full 6 innings for the first time this season and suddenly all is well??
Lanidrac
It’s been 3 out of 4 starts that Matz has pitched well after rejoining the starting rotation after a month or so of pretty good work out of the bullpen. He’ll still need to keep it up, but so far that’s quite a good turnaround.
nottinghamforest13
What happened to the guy who insisted that Contreras was being traded by the deadline?
nottinghamforest13
Wherever he goes the transaction should turn out to be a win for the Cardinals. He’s never been particularly consistent or reliable so his patch of effective performances is likely to taper off sooner rather than later.
Jrnomo100
I don’t understand why they want young pitchers they need a new manager and pitching coach first
King of Cards
Who says you can’t have both?
Jrnomo100
Mo is not smart enough to get it done
THEY LIVE!!!
@ Jrnomo100
Cards first need a new GM, Then a manager and pitching coach/staff.
King of Cards
It’s all a win at this point because the Cardinals are playing for next year.
playhard9
Mo should not trade with the Rays. That has never gone well. Or Texas for that matter.
BringBackSchildt
It’s almost like Mo has put together terrible coaching staffs that don’t know how to develop players – so we trade young guys for more established players and cross our fingers that wins will just happen.
I’m not convinced that players like Arozarena would have been as successful with cardinals coaches…
Lanidrac
Maybe the pitchers, but there’s nothing wrong with their offensive development, so you can’t make that argument with Arozarena.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
The road to Heartbreak Hotel is paved with young pitchers who were supposed to be the second coming of Bob Gibson and Sandy Koufax. Seems like, for every one who turns out to be good, there are a dozen or more who never so much as sniff the Show.
asdfgh
Texas has got nothing we want, Rays maybe if Mo knows he got screwed on the last one and gets them back as Libby isn’t the ace we heard he was. That’s the issue with young pitching. Look at the dodgers who have warning signs with their young pitching and their arms look at Buehler, Urias and such so they are overhyping these dudes who aren’t aces. We will be pillaging as it’s a sellers market and not many have pieces like us as our guys rank up in the stats so teams WILL OVERPAY
jmuddmarquardt
I’d take Leiter or Rocker from the Rangers.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
He’ll get traded to the Rays for a middle infielder who peaks in AA
King of Cards
I think any of Tampa, Texas and Arizona make for a good trading partner. All 3 seem to not only need pen help but rotation help as well. Cardinals have at least 2 trades to make regarding pitching with Montgomery, Flaherty, Hicks and Stratton all available.
mgomrjsurf
On Sherman’s Twiter Feed says told by 2 Mariners EXC Sewald available.
asdfgh
Nope keep dreaming just like you dream of a full crowd in your stadium lol
Braves_saints_celts
You have got to be one of the most annoying commenters on this site, good grief. Keep dreaming of finding that girl you will never get. Only your mommy can love you
CardsFan57
Hicks will go somewhere and be a lights out closer. Ollie doesn’t bring the best out in young players. Hicks is only 26 and coming into his own. He’ll grow rapidly under the right coaching.
King of Cards
It’s all about throwing strikes with Hicks. If he does he’s great if he doesn’t he’s not.
Tigers3232
A pitcher like that is the most conflicting. When Robbie Ray was coming up with Tigers and I’d take my son to a game he pitched, I used to tell him we re gonna see an amazing pitcher if he’s locating his sinker. If he wasn’t tho we were gonna see a beat down. Players like that sometimes the stars align vut more often than not they ll b up and down.
Lanidrac
Hicks was badly inconsistent for 4 years before Oli became manager, much of that time under an excellent pitching coach in Mike Maddux. The current staff has nothing to do with with how he’s never fulfilled his potential.
In fact, we should actually be giving them credit for Hicks having his best season yet and allowing us to trade him while his value is at its peak.
jmuddmarquardt
I think you’re wrong about Hicks. He was great in 2018 and 2019 as a 21/22 year old. He got hurt in 2019 and missed all of 2020. 2021 he got hurt again and has been inconsistent the last two years with Oli as his manager. Oli should have never gotten the job and Shildt should not have been fired. Alas, Mo did what he wanted to do as his right as the PoB. Hopefully, Mo decides that Oli and his staff need to go and they need to bring someone in that can right the ship before its to late and the team has multiple losing seasons with a win-now roster. I don’t know if Mo is the guy for that, but unless/until he is gone that is all we can hope for as a Cardinals fan.
Lanidrac
He was NOT great in 2018, merely decent due to the inconsistency shown throughout his entire career to date.
I’ll give you that he had a pretty good year when healthy in 2019, and yeah he didn’t pitch in 2020, but then he was back to his usual inconsistent self for the part of 2021 that he wasn’t hurt but had gotten even worse.
Captain-Judge99
I’m sure Matt Blake could help him with better control, if he comes over in a deal with Flaherty, Donovan or Carlson. Doesn’t look like they will be finalists for him though.
Little Stevie Janowsky
Yankees don’t have anything that can net them Donovan. Keep dreaming tho buddy
Captain-Judge99
Little Stevie, stop overrating this kid! Not dreaming either, the Yankees don’t need him. He’s a dh these days, because of injury. Cody Bellinger is a much better player anyway.
Little Stevie Janowsky
If that were the case you wouldn’t have been on your hands and knees over the past few weeks begging the Yankees to trade for him!
Lanidrac
If Mike Maddux couldn’t do it, I don’t expect any other pitching coach to do it.
OCTraveler
Package him and Arenado to LA for multiple prospects and James Outman
MediocreCardinals
Gross. We aren’t the Pirates. Stop the nonsense.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Not yet your not, but keep allowing Mozeliak to make trades and you will be.
Lanidrac
Why? The large majority of his and Girsch’s trades, including Goldschmidt and Arenado, over the last 15+ years have been good or neutral.
It’s only 2 bad trades that everyone complains about these days. Don’t forget that these are the same guys who made the trades necessary at the last two deadlines for the Cardinals to make the playoffs in 2021 and 2022.
Braves_saints_celts
I can name 4 that were definitely terrible trades. The sandy alcantara and zac gallen trade for marcell Ozuna. The adolis Garcia for cash considerations trade. The randy arozarena for Matthew liberatore and edgardo Rodriguez trade. The lane Thomas for jon Lester trade. Yeah that is more than 2 and the cards could definitely have use for every single one of those players right now. Imagine how good they’d be now with them. Yes Goldschmidt and arenado were great deals. But that doesn’t excuse these terrible trades and tons of other mediocre or just plain average trades that the Cardinals have made. They may have thought they were upgrading at the time of those trades. But all they did was affect their future and it has caught up to them to the point of having a fire sale and being no where close to contention. Just like the angels wasting shohei and Mike trout the Cardinals have effectively wasted arenado and Goldschmidt.
Lanidrac
Garcia was technically not a trade. but a DFA situation. It was still regrettable, but it’s not the kind of deal we’re discussing.
Lane Thomas for Jon Lester was a good trade for both sides. Lester helped the Cardinals make the playoffs in 2021., so it was worth giving up Thomas. Besides, Thomas probably wouldn’t have lasted long enough in the Cardinals’ system before he established himself just this season in the first place.
That’s still only 2+ bad trades compared to all the good or neutral ones. Besides Goldy and Arenado, there’s also Freese, Holliday, Rasmus for a bunch of guys to win the 2011 World Series, Mujica, Lackey, O’Neill (who has still been as at least as valuable as Gonzales despite his injuries), Gallegos, Happ, Quintana, Montgomery, and a number of others.
Meanwhile, those trades have certainly NOT hurt their future, as they still have a pretty good farm system, and they are only retooling to contend again next season, NOT having a fire sale.
They haven’t wasted Goldy and Arenado, either. The two of them have helped the Cardinals to two playoff appearances and two additional trips with Goldy. They have a decent chance of doing the same next year and with Arenado in the years after.
Four4fore
He’s not QO material, he’s not signing an extension. Trade him or lose him for nothing.
jmaa
Hicks could be great. It’s bizarre how few he strikes out with that stuff.
Lanidrac
Well, his main pitch is a sinker, which is designed more to get ground balls and other weak contact than for swings and misses. His average K numbers combined with his excellent ground ball rates would be an excellent combination were it not for how shaky his control is.
sacrifice
They won’t move him
This is just tactical BS
sacrifice
They could get much more for Giovanni
Lanidrac
Yes, but he’s still under contract for next year. They can’t overhaul the pitching staff for 2024 by trading away one of the few good pitchers they’ll still have left..
sufferforsnakes
Diamondbacks showing interest, while others are actually making trades. Got this bad feeling they’re gonna ride it out with what they got.
TenYearsGone
I’d like to see my BoSox land him. Maybe even part of a bigger deal.
FrontOfficeStan
I think it’s most likely we see Hicks go to the Yankees. But, Mo also likes dealing with Arizona, so it’ll be interesting. The yankees are more likely to offer a decent package for Hicks + Oneil, though cards might want to move Carlson instead depending on what the offers are.
Seamus O'Meara
The Rays want to add more 98 to their stable of guys who throw 98 in case Kevin Cash wants to use one to retaliate against the New York Yankees.
MediocreCardinals
This is an underrated comment.
msqboxer
After the Alcantra, Gallen, Arozerena trades the Cardinals overvalue every player they have now. There’s a pretty good chance that they end up not finding buyers for a couple of their pending FA’s Montgomery, Flaherty and Hicks..or their return is going to be vastly underwhelming.
snakebyte32
The Arenado and Goldie trade speculation cracks me up. Those two are great on the field certainly though not MVP level this year still solid contributions. In some respects to a logical thinking person a trade of one of them would make sense. To a business thinking person you would laugh at the thought. Dewitt is counting the coins those two will add to the books long after their playing careers are over. Both are at a minimum going to be inducted into the Cardinals hall of fame and also mostly likely into Cooperstown one day. Dewitt does not let that kind of asset go without it being a factor in the decision making and Mo is as much Dewitt’s puppet as Girsch is Mo’s. The same kind of crack up when someone talks about Mo getting the boot due to the trainwreck this season has become over a known problem last offseason. Would make sense if you did not know that all the blame for that would just be transferred to Girsch. Even knowing where the decisions are made most of the bloodthirsty fans would be appeased by his firing, especially if they address the actual problem. If this were MLB the Show in GM mode I would trade about the whole team off and see what I could get for them. Since it is not I am afraid there will be much less action from STL than most hope for, including teams looking to improve their postseason prospects in ’23. The cost to acquire anything from STL will be higher than from other teams that are more accustomed to being deadline sellers I think because the fans will howl when the actual value of the players on the field is mostly low level prospects and lottery tickets. The truth is the AA team I get to watch in Springfield is pretty mediocre and their .500 record is propped up by a 26 year old second time through AA ball third baseman and mostly nothing special pitchers. I haven’t had a chance to catch Hence pitch yet though so there is at least some hope. The scouting reports I’ve read on Hence have him pegged as a 5 inning type starter or late inning reliever, but even scouts get things wrong from time to time…..What a hot mess. I hate to complain about one losing season, it clearly makes cardinals fans look like jerks to many other fans, or sore losers. It really is not that so much as watching winning baseball is addicting and as a long time fan I am jonesing for some of that as soon as possible….