With the trade deadline now just a few days away, Tigers starter Eduardo Rodriguez is drawing plenty of trade interest. Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reports that scouts from several rival clubs having been keeping an eye on him, with the Rangers, Rays, Reds, Phillies and Diamondbacks among those keeping tabs.
It’s unsurprising that Rodriguez, 30, is garnering attention around the league. He’s been a solid major league starter for many years and is having arguably his best season to date. Coming into this year, he had thrown 947 2/3 innings with a 4.15 earned run average, striking out 23.9% of batters faced while walking 8.1% of them and keeping the ball on the ground at a 41.2% clip. Here in 2023, he has a 2.95 ERA, nudging his strikeout rate to 25.9% and lowering his walk rate to 6%, that latter number being a career best by a full point.
Those numbers would fit great in just about every rotation around the league. What makes his situation unique is his contract. He’s not a rental in a strict sense but will be treated similarly to one. The Tigers signed him to a five-year, $77MM deal going into 2022, but that deal gave him the ability to opt out after the second year. That opt-out opportunity is now just a few months away, when he will have to decide between hanging onto the three years and $49MM left on his contract versus returning to the open market.
The last time he was a free agent, he was coming off a season in which he had a 4.74 ERA and had rejected a qualifying offer. This time, it seems like he will have the ability to return to free agency with a stronger platform year and no QO attached, since players aren’t allowed to receive more than one in their careers. He will be two years older and the underlying numbers of his 2021 season were still strong, but all the factors taken into consideration would seem to point to him having a strong shot of getting past that $49MM guarantee in free agency. The most recent offseason saw mid-rotation pitchers like Chris Bassitt, Taijuan Walker and Jameson Taillon get between $63MM and $72MM, with Rodriguez having an argument for being in that range as well.
With that being the case, it makes sense for the Tigers to consider moving him for talent that can help them in future seasons. Their record is currently 46-55, which only puts them 6.5 games off the lead in the weak AL Central, but FanGraphs only gives them a 1.7% chance of making the playoffs with Baseball Prospectus at 0.3%.
The tricky thing is that, unlike other rental players, there’s more downside for the acquiring club. Although Rodriguez is trending towards opting out, there’s a chance he could experience a downturn in results or suffer an injury that causes him to take the bird in the hand. That’s something that other clubs would have to take into consideration when discussing deals, and it’s possible the Tigers get a lesser return than if Rodriguez were simply in the final year of his contract. The injury question mark is always a factor with pitchers and certainly with Rodriguez, who has only once topped 160 innings in a season.
Complications aside, each of the listed clubs would surely love to have Rodriguez in their rotation for the stretch run. The Rangers have lost Jacob deGrom and Jake Odorizzi to season-ending injuries, which has put a couple of dents in their depth. Dane Dunning has stepped up and has an ERA of 3.18 this year, but a 15.4% strikeout rate that casts some doubt on its sustainability. Martín Pérez and Andrew Heaney are each having lackluster seasons as well, with their respective ERAs hovering just under 5.00. They are still leading the AL West but the Astros are only two games back, with the Angels also aggressively making a push. They’ve already been connected to starters, with reported interest in Lance Lynn of the White Sox.
The Rays have some strong elements to their rotation with Shane McClanahan, Tyler Glasnow, Taj Bradley and Zach Eflin in four spots, but Eflin has dealt with persistent knee issues in his career and underwent an MRI on his left knee yesterday. It’s unclear if that will be a serious problem, but they are already without Jeffrey Springs and Drew Rasmussen for the rest of the season, with Josh Fleming on the 60-day IL as well. Like the Rangers, they’ve also been connected to Lynn in their pursuit of more starting pitching. They have slipped behind Baltimore in the East but still hold the top Wild Card spot in the American League.
The Reds have known for some time to be in the market for pitching, which makes plenty of sense. They were hoping to have their rotation fronted by Hunter Greene and Nick Lodolo but both have been on the IL for a while now with at least a few more weeks until their expected returns. Other starters like Justin Dunn and Connor Overton are on the IL with them. Luke Weaver is still clinging to a rotation spot despite his 7.20 ERA on the year, leaving plenty of room for an upgrade. They are currently holding a Wild Card spot and are just a game and a half behind the Brewers in the Central division.
The Phillies have a solid group of five in Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Taijuan Walker, Ranger Suárez and Cristopher Sánchez, but their depth has been weakened by the Tommy John surgery of Andrew Painter and the struggles of Bailey Falter. The only member of their current rotation than can be optioned is Sanchez, who has a 2.98 ERA but a 4.06 FIP. But perhaps someone could wind up in the bullpen or they simply use a six-man rotation for a while. They currently hold one of the Wild Card spots in the tight NL race.
The Diamondbacks have a top-heavy rotation with Zac Gallen and Merrill Kelly at the front. Brandon Pfaadt was one of the top pitching prospects in the league coming into the year but has an 8.81 ERA through his first seven starts. Tommy Henry has a 4.01 ERA but with uninspiring peripherals and a 5.14 FIP. Ryne Nelson’s ERA is is 4.97. General manager Mike Hazen has already admitted the club will pursue pitching upgrades. It remains to be seen how aggressive they will be since they’ve been struggling lately, but they are still just half a game out of the playoff picture.
VonPurpleHayes
Wouldn’t mind this upgrade for the Phils. Work your magic DD.
Idosteroids
Something seems up with Suarez?? Had a spectacular June, but the last 5-6 starts have been awful. This trade would make alot of sense for the phillies, who need a more solid 5th starter anyways, but added LH insurance if Suarez keeps regressing.
Motor City Beach Bum
Dombrowski certainly would know him from his days in Boston. Philly might mot match up as well as others for what the Tigers need though.
Blue Baron
If Suarez is younger, maybe he goes to Detroit in the deal.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Unlikely, Suarez would be valuable to Phillies in multiple roles and in 2024. More likely to send Painter or Abel.
Who else
Tigers need bats, not pitching. There looking for young hitters almost ready for the big leagues
gotigers68
No magic beans this year !
VonPurpleHayes
Plenty of great prospects in the Philly farm that I’d be terrified to trade, but Philly’s window is now.
Phillls
Upgrade??
VonPurpleHayes
E-Rod is most definitely a rotation upgrade. He would be one of our best pitchers. You can option Sanchez or move him to a bullpen role, or, better yet, include Sanchez in the trade. Sanchez has been very solid, and I’d hate to see him go, but the window is now.
Motor City Beach Bum
Sanchez and Muziotti? Muziotti seems like the type of player Scott Harris is looking for.
VonPurpleHayes
It may take more than that from Philly, but Muziotti is definitely on the table.
Ejemp2006
ERod is finally realizing all his potential. I was a huge doubter, and still don’t believe he’ll be an ace going forward, but this year is his year.
He’d be a great fit in Phillie. I trust DD more then any other GM to make this move if it’ll push them over the top.
Fever Pitch Guy
Ejemp – In 2019 ERod finished 6th in Cy voting and had a 5.5 WAR.
If not for a bad case of Covid in 2020 and personal issues in 2022, he’d have continued his brilliance during the past 3 seasons. 2019 is when it really all came together for him.
CheapBloom
Reunion with Boston?
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I was thinking this could very well be a possibility. We need starting pitching, although we are coming around with pitching.
I.M. Insane
Why bother? Give up a couple of prospects for a guy who’ll opt-out. Plus the Sox, even in the slight chance they go to the post-season, won’t get past the first series.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Writing them off as soon as they get there? That alone makes your post frivolous as we know several teams have a chance once getting there. Just look at the Phillies last year.
I do agree with you about the opt-out. It wouldn’t be worth trading the farm and I think we pursue Rodriguez if the price is right. If not, move on, as I think we can survive without him. He’s not the biggest piece.
Jake Biggar
IF (big if) the Sox get in the dance I don’t think anyone wants to see a healthy Sox team. Sale, Paxton, Bello is a solid 1-3 and that lineup with Story back will be deep. They just gotta keep winning
VonPurpleHayes
Sox are for real. I hope they add at the deadline. Their play deserves to be rewarded.
JoeBrady
won’t get past the first series.
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You do know that, if we make the playoffs, we are probably the favorite in the first series?
Blue Baron
We? What’s your job in the organization?
Blue Baron
Those who put up with people like you are the real heroes.
Somewhere, there are trees working hard to produce oxygen for you to breathe. You really need to go and apologize.
its_happening
Buying patron. WE is acceptable.
User 3180623956
Without the fans there are no teams. So, yes, “we” is correct.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Well, his username is “I am Insane”
Fever Pitch Guy
happening – Good choice, Patron is the best tequila on the market, enjoy!
As for “we”, I have nothing against Joe but many people have called him out for using the term … he is just “getting back” at them by trolling them.
Sorry but anyone who projects themself as part of a team/group/entity without receiving any type of monetary compensation from said entity and without participating in the actual competition involving said entity is NOT a member of said entity.
Employees and investors, yes.
Players/managers/coaches, yes.
Fans, no.
Even fans like myself who actually pay to attend games are not part of the team, no different than those who purchase any service or product.
Fever Pitch Guy
grn – The Rays haven’t had fans for years, but they were still a team. LOL!
I think you’re assuming everyone who watches sports on TV, listens to sports on the radio, or attends sporting events is a fan. Fact is, plenty of people will watch sports without being a fan of any team. Plenty of people will go to a ballpark, especially a famous one like Fenway, just to enjoy the concessions and atmosphere without caring about which team wins.
Were there fans in 2020? No people in the seats and hardly nobody watching on TV.
JoeBrady
I have nothing against Joe but many people have called him out for using the term … he is just “getting back” at them by trolling them.
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I use the term “we” to indicate that I am a RS fan. I use “they” to indicate that I am not part of that group. I’ve seen a lot of people do that.
JoeBrady
No, sn33 is pretty much spot on. You’re an idiot. But just for fun, I looked it up. One of the better descriptions of using the word “we” is:
“When the New Orleans Saints play, in my mind at least, they do so as representatives of a greater cultural collective of which I am definitely a member, and the competition is a symbolic confrontation between my tribe and some other tribe.”
But there is something else interesting here. There might be a dozen instances in this thread alone where people use the word “you” in the same manner as I use the word “we”. Posters will tell a Philly fan “you should trade for ERod”, meaning that Philly should trade for ERod, not to imply that they think the person with whom they are conversing is DD.
User 3180623956
Fever- hah so true about the rays.
I guess the way I see it is, who cares if someone says “we” or not? Life’s too short to be concerned about such silly things.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Come back to the O’s Eduardo
Motor City Beach Bum
O’s have the pieces the Tigers need! Mayo or Norby.
King of Cards
Yeah I like the Orioles as a fit for Rodriguez for sure.
Brassroo
Both strike out more than Scott would like. Joey Ortiz or Samuel Basallo look more like Harris type guys.
Motor City Beach Bum
Joey’s walk to k ratio is better for sure and he could plug in and play 2B right now for the Tigers. Just not sure on him. I saw him play earlier this year and I kept thinking Utility infielder for some reason I can’t put my finger on. Can’t even say why. Good point on him being a Harris type player though. Similar profile to some of the other young 2B/3B types like Justin Foscue and Tyler Black.
Brassroo
Al Avila has always been a clown. Terrible GM.
Brassroo
ERod and Lorenzen HAVE to be traded. Whatever the best offer is, take it. The organization needs position players at all levels.
Brassroo
Not to worry…Al the Pathetic is gone!
Brassroo
Really like Barrosa
SuperSloth
Just don’t trade with the Rays. I’m sure someone will correct me and give examples but I cannot remember teams winning trades made with Tampa Bay. I go off the assumption that whomever the Rays are willing to trade away, there is a reason why they no longer want the player. I believe Tampa Bay knew something was going on with Austin Meadows before trading him with Detroit a couple seasons ago. Isaac Paredes would look mighty nice in the Tigers infield right now, something I believed at the time the trade went down.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Nathaniel Lowe
StusFirstDollar
Nate Lowe deal isn’t a bust until Basabe rears his head
Paleobros
Joe Ryan to the Twins for Nelson Cruz was a bit of an L for the Rays, but few, if any, other than that come to mind.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Don’t forget 5 inning Snell. The Rays knew he wasn’t an economical pitcher and that he was expendable.
YourDreamGM
Snell return was solid. Doesn’t look great now but still some hope.
Motor City Beach Bum
I was surprised they didn’t give Paredes more of a look in Detroit. Seemed like they played Dawel Lugo and others instead which never made any sense to me.
stymeedone
Paredes was too young when Lugo was on the team. He would have been in rookie or A ball. He was always younger than the players typical at his level.
Motor City Beach Bum
They were both on the team in 2020 but Lugo was only there for 10 at bats so you are right, they were not competing for AB’s
YourDreamGM
Cron Williams Dickerson.
Cruz trade painful.
kidnova
While I would love for the Rangers to figure out a way to pry Cease away from the WS, Rodriguez seems like the most likely target.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Walcott, Duran, and White for him would be fair, I think. They can just call up Dustin Harris, JP Martinez, Eller Hernandez, Evan Carter, or guys like Foscue/Crim and throw them in the outfield.
kidnova
I’d be surprised if they’d include Walcott in a package like this. Too much upside and he’s too far away to be considered blocked right now. My guess would be one of the middle infielders who’s close to MLB ready, most likely Foscue since this is potentially a rental.
KhaluChris
I am assuming that Walcott, Duran & White package would be for Cease? Seems high for Eduardo although I am sure the Tigers would pounce on a return like that.
kidnova
Yeah, maybe I misunderstood. That would make more sense.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Cease obviously lol
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Dude… I was 100% talking about Cease, not Edurado rotfl
King of Cards
That’s not enough for Cease imo
As always run it by the trade simulator.
Motor City Beach Bum
Justin Foscue and Dustin Harris fit the profile of what Scott Harris is looking for. Throw in Sam Huff with those two and take back some bullpen help.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
A lot of controllable bullpen help – sure (Foley and Lange)
KhaluChris
I am curious; Is Evan Carter untouchable? Would Eduardo Rodriguez, Alex Lange & Kerry Carpenter for Duran, Walcott & Carter be impossible?
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
I think Carter should be (except for Soto or Luis Robert Jr.). I have a different valuation of guys than MLB teams, but I would say Walcott can be dealt high now. The same goes for Duran. However, I can’t imagine Carter being traded, even straight up, for those guys. Maybe you get Acuna/Foscue instead of Duran or White, but not all of them. If Chicago had Cease, a few relievers, and cash on the table, I would think about it.
Biggie22
Reds should get them to throw in Jason Foley & then give them India plus a stronger prospects like arroyo (top 50 prospect & maybe another throw in…..
jdgoat
Those two do lineup as pretty good trade partners. If I’m the Reds I maybe even consider trading a top prospect like Marte in that sort of deal to get a longer term high upside arm like Skubal out of Detroit.
This one belongs to the Reds
With that opt out, he is a rental. They got burned by that on Castellanos, so they won’t give up that kind of talent for what essentially could be a rental.
Biggie22
That’s why you have them include Foley whose one the better more underrated bullpen arms under control thru 2027…. You can never have enough stud bullpen arms especially with a young starting staff..,
Motor City Beach Bum
If they don’t give up talent then they’ll be on the outside looking in. The Giolito trade just set the market for what they will get for Erod and likely Lorenzen.
micro_maniac8
I pray for the downfall of the Reds, but I agree. In the best possible scenario, he pitches extremely well and opts out. The only way he does not opt out is he winds up with a season ending injury that bleeds over into 2024. Then you have lost India for a couple months of ERod.
This one belongs to the Reds
I actually expect them to be on the outside looking in since the kid GM doesn’t bring in established major league talent.
earmbrister
Gotta give it to ya. When you come up with nonsense like “kid GM” you beat it to death like a dead horse.
The man is 45 years old, which you would know if you weren’t yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off your lawn …
Dogs
My choice for the Reds is Lorenzen & Faedo going to the Reds for a middle infielder. Maybe even a reliever added in.
I pick Rodriguez going to Tampa Bay.
Cisnero to Texas
Foley to Baltimore
kidfavre4
They signed Castellanos as a free agent.
This one belongs to the Reds
That was a different GM, and they foolishly gave him an opt out which made the four year deal only a two year one in the end.
KhaluChris
Skubal is very likely staying put.
Motor City Beach Bum
If they trade Skubal I’m getting a new team. Okay I’m not but I’d be super pissed! To me Skubal should be near u touchable. You are right that Cincy and Detroit match up well. I think Erod and Foley for India, Sal Stewart and a low minors prospect is fair.
Jake Biggar
Skubal is staying put but if the reds offered me Marte, India and another top 12 guy that’d be one to think on imo
ThonolansGhost
The Tigers are not going to throw in Jason Foley, nor should they.
ThonolansGhost
The Tigers and the Reds do not match up well. The Reds want young, controllable pitching and the Tigers won’t be willing to give theirs up. Also, the lastest reports suggest that the Reds aren’t willing to trade India afterall.
stymeedone
Encarnacion-Strand has more trade value anyway. Will accept him as a replacement for India, if you insist.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Reds might trade Noelvi or Collier the dudes in the bigs are stayin’ put.
Motor City Beach Bum
If someone offers them a “closer type package” for him (and he is easily worth that) I think they should consider it. Only for an overwhelming package though.Relief pitchers are a volatile comodity and the most easily replaced position on the field.
stymeedone
Foley would be the headliner over E-Rod, due to his years of control. He won’t be a “throw-in”. Tigers are getting similar results from Ibanez at 2B, and he’s better defensively than India. Besides Keith is already penciled in at 2B. Tigers need a 3B.
KhaluChris
What makes you think he’s penciled in at 2B? I’ve always assumed he’d come in and play 3B, but I haven’t watched him.
Motor City Beach Bum
Stymedone is right. They moved Keith to 2B this year. Ideally a 3B would be great, but someone who can hit and field either position would work too.
Returnthegame
The underlying metrics are good to Rodriguez. I don’t necessarily think the Tigers have to trade him, but either trade now or plan on re-signing him. He almost certainly will opt-out and not getting anything in return for a high quality arm at this point would be a mistake.
Tigers3232
He is gonna opt out that’s basically a given. They should absolutely trade him at this point unless they were to approach him and be able to extend him prior to the deadline which seems highly unlikely.
DanUgglasRing
Giants need to get on the phone and make this happen
Motor City Beach Bum
Schmitt and Whisenhunt. Add in a relief or minor league pitcher. Read what the Angels just traded for Giolito before you scream no!!!
DanUgglasRing
Send them over then. Schmitt is all glove and wiz is in the minors.
King of Cards
Flaherty and either Hicks or Stratton For Wisenhunt. I could handle that. Flaherty is usually gonna either give you a good start or a bad one. Boom or bust could be a good option for the Giants who probably need to roll the dice a bit to win it all.
gotigers68
Whatever the Tigers do, they better get more than a five-year prospect or two or draft picks.
I’m sick of giving up Verlander, Costellanos(sp), JD Martinez, and getting nothing in return !!
KhaluChris
The issue wasn’t how long we had to wait, it was the quality of prospects was trash. If we actually got good prospects back for those guys, they’d all be in the majors now and making an impact. Let’s just hope Scott Harris & his scouting department actually get good prospects back for the tradable assets we have.
micro_maniac8
The Reds wouldn’t have any interest in that deal.
dano62
Surprised Astros aren’t higher on this list; Bielak & Brown could be improved on…
Motor City Beach Bum
There were reports this week that the Astros have interest in Erod. I was quite surprised when I looked through their top 30 prospects list but they have some really interesting players there who could fill some holes for the Tigers.
JoeBrady
I wouldn’t hate it if the RS traded for ERod, but he has some downside to him. He missed half of 2022 for personal reasons, and wasn’t particularly successful in 21/22 with an ERA/FIP of 4.49/3.73.
He can be a very good pitcher. But if is a very good pitcher, you then only have him for 2 months. If something goes sideways, you are liable for an additional 3 years.
I’d prefer to go after someone with a little less upside, like Monty, with none of the downside.
sufferforsnakes
Diamondbacks sure could use a LH starter, to wipe away the memories of MadBum.
Motor City Beach Bum
They also match up well with the Tigers. Canzone is a Harris type player and Barrosa and others look interesting as well.
Dbird777
I’m scared after seeing the price for Giolito lol. Absolutely No on Noelvi, so it’d depend on what else they want
This one belongs to the Reds
Marte would only go for someone controllable for a while.
Motor City Beach Bum
Cincy has an embarrassment of good young infielders to pick from for trades. So many that I don’t think they could find a place for all of them to play. Trading Collier or Stewart has zero impact on them in the near term. If they get the pitching to match that young lineup they will be downright scary.
Tiger22matt
Extremely high overpay for a rental no thanks. Now if you want someone in the 11-30 range have at it.
Motor City Beach Bum
Quero and Bush for Giolito and Lopez = you are going to gave to open the purse strings for rentals this year dude, or golfing come playoff time.
Tiger22matt
Sounds like a good year to not overpay for rentals. Giving up one of those top 100 guys and they turn into a star for Detroit would be far worse than not making the playoffs a year ahead of schedule.
Motor City Beach Bum
Keep them all and teach them to pitch since you don’t have enough open spots for them;) Cheers dude
jacl
losing odorizzi for a year wasn’t a bad thing. if he’d been healthy he probably wouldve been released a long time ago due to bad performance.
KhaluChris
The Tigers need high end prospects that can play Catcher, Outfield and versatile Infielders. The Dodgers with Cartaya & Rushing would be a good trade partner for Rodriguez or Lorenzon.
Motor City Beach Bum
Cartaya is having a bit of a down year so I wonder if his value has fallen a bit. Busch with that high OBP and good walk to K ratio looks pretty good.
ThonolansGhost
The Tigers catcher and outfield situation is fine. They do need a quality second baseman (or a third baseman if they move Keith to 2B).
KhaluChris
Who is our future catcher ? Dirk Diggler ?
Motor City Beach Bum
Rogers for the hear future. Dingler’s been so-so this year. Josh Crouch and Donnie Sands haven’t had good years. I’d love forthem to grab Kevin Parada from the Mets as a long term solution but can’t see that happening. They drafted a kid this year in the later rounds who looks interesting and signed overslot (Cernowyk or something?). The rest are backups and AAAA: Papierski and Knapp.
KhaluChris
Yeah, that overslot guy we drafted this year could be something along with the international kid we signed but that won’t be for another 5-6 years on each one. Rogers is an average player from my point of view and I don’t really see him being a key piece of this team.
LABeachguy
So wish you could trade draft picks in baseball. Make everything so more exciting especially the draft which MLB would love to see more interest. Wonder why that is never talked about.
braveshomer
Come on Braves…trade for him and throw him a ‘signing bonus’ for opting back in the remaining 3 years (which is probably not doable like the NFL). We all know they aren’t resigning Fried, at least this softens the blow a tad bit.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Let’s hope the Tigers get a good deal. People keep saying stuff like, ” the type of player Harris is looking for”…..ugg….. Do you mean mediocre? Hope they improve, not given a full chance to adjust yet?
I would.prefer a Coby Mayo or a Heston, a Spencer, a Dalton…..with a package deal.and some.strong armed.tactics? After all, the buyer would be C blocking….that’s a full pitching staff tune up the Tigers are offering…..
NY vs Balt
La vs AZ, Sf
Tx vs Hou
Mil vs Cin
I never understood waiting for the deadline….
Holy Toledo!
Coulda hired the Superfife!
Coulda had a V-8.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Throwing in Haas, who calls a.good game, and taking on some salary?(McCann? , Barnes?)
What they are offering is very important in playoff situations.