Red Sox center fielder Adam Duvall has been diagnosed with a distal radius fracture in his left wrist, manager Alex Cora announced to reporters Monday (Twitter link via Ian Browne of MLB.com). He’ll be placed on the 10-day injured list for now, with the expectation that he’ll miss several weeks of action. The team does not yet have an exact timetable for his expected recovery, though Cora told reporters that Duvall will not require surgery (via Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe). Infielder Bobby Dalbec is up from Triple-A Worcester in place of Duvall, and utilityman Rob Refsnyder started tonight’s game in center field.
Duvall exited yesterday’s game after making a diving play in the outfield, appearing to injure the same left wrist on which he had season-ending surgery a year ago. He’s been not only the Red Sox’ hottest hitter but one of the hottest bats in all of baseball, opening the season with a .455/.514/1.030 batting line and four home runs in 37 trips to the plate.
While no one can be expected to continue on at that pace — Duvall is a career .233/.292/.472 hitter — there were still some encouraging gains in this season’s early showing. Duvall’s 25.6% chase rate on pitches of the plate is the lowest of his career and an improvement by 10 percentage points over his career mark, and his 85.5% contact rate dwarfs his career mark of 74.2%. Unsurprisingly, given the early improvements in his approach, Duvall’s 13.5% strikeout rate is less than half his career 28.3% mark.
With Duvall sidelined, it’ll likely fall to Refsnyder and Raimel Tapia to man things in center field. Refsnyder will get the first crack at that tonight, with the Sox facing left-hander Jalen Beeks in tonight’s date with the undefeated Rays. Moving forward, it’s reasonable to expect the left-handed-hitting Tapia to get the majority of looks on the larger half of what looks like a conventional platoon. If the Sox want to shift Enrique Hernandez from the infield back to the outfield, he’d be another option in center.
The injury is tough for Duvall not only because it’ll derail his hot start but also due to the nature of his contract. Duvall is a free agent after the season, having inked a one-year, $7MM contract over the winter and was hoping for a healthy, productive campaign to line him up for a multi-year deal next winter. His contract also contains up to $3MM worth of incentives based on plate appearances. Duvall earns $500K bonuses for reaching each of 350, 400, 450 and 500 plate appearances, as well as a $1MM bonus upon reaching 550 trips to the plate. Duvall’s broken wrist all but assures that he won’t reach the very top end of that bonus structure, though depending on how quickly he’s able to return, he could still have a chance to reach those first couple milestones.
Dude was carrying my team in fantasy. Get better soon
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that suuuucckkkkssss.
Cubs should offer Mancini to the Bosox. In fact just give Mancini away to whoever wants him.
Nobody wants anybody in that roster. It’s basura.
It’s only been 9 games, he will hit better! His defensive struggles are exposed when Ross plays him out of position. I get why he did (Suzuki injury) but Mancini should only be DH and occasional 1B, not anywhere else.
Saw the dive & he immediately knew. He was so hot too. Feel bad for him!
No one is asking but given his age and health history, why didn’t the team replace him in the ninth? Easy to second guess and the same play could have happened earlier in the game, but I was wondering why there wasn’t a plan in place since spring training.
He’d be the 2nd batter in the 10th if it came to that.
Joe – No manager should be planning for the 10th when they have a 3-run lead in the 9th. You keep trashing the back end of the Sox bullpen, but Schreiber/Martin/Jansen are solid. They are not Robles/Diekman/Familia, as much as you wish they were.
You absolutely manage for the 10th because nothing is guaranteed, especially with a sketchy bullpen.
Haha … if that’s true then why does Cora burn up his best relievers from the 7th to 9th genius
Joe – No manager should be planning for the 10th
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ROTFLMAO!
One should plan for EVERYTHING. Every inning, you should have a plan in your head for every RP for the ENTIRE game. Sorry dude, but that’s just crazy talk. Even Rivera would blow 4-5 games a year.
“if that’s true then why does Cora burn up his best relievers from the 7th to 9th genius”
Because there’s a difference between planning for a guy to get an AB in the 10th, than, ‘let me use worse relievers in the 7th and 8th innings, just in case, the game goes into extras.’
Also ‘Core burn up” his best relievers? Wasn’t last week the mantra ‘why didnt Cora use his best relievers’? Basically. ‘any way we can shift the blame to him. It doesnt have to make be consistent’.
Joe – Once again you’re proving you don’t actually watch the games, because what SHOULD be planned usually ISN’T.
Watch the games, Joe. You’ll often see the Sox down by a run or tied in the late innings with RISP and there’s just one or two weak-hitting bench players remaining. Or a game will go into extra innings and none of the 4 best relievers are available because they each were pulled after one inning or less, having thrown just a dozen or so pitches.
Sunday they used Schreiber, Winck, Martin and Jansen. If the Tigers had tied it in the 9th, just think how bad it would have been if Ort or Bleier had to be used in extra innings. If you think that’s Cora’s “plan” then he should be fired on the spot for “planning” that.
Complete nonsense. You always plan for ‘what-ifs’.
Joe – Actions speak louder than words.
Cora doesn’t plan, and neither does Bloom. If you want to say they do plan but they don’t plan well, I suppose I wouldn’t disagree with that.
Bloom obviously didn’t plan well this offseason, considering all the “top priorities” he lost out on.
He obviously didn’t think signing Xander was a priority, and now he’s forced into playing a stud centerfielder in a SS position that he is clearly struggling with (5 errors already).
Is THAT your idea of a “plan”, Joe? Severely weakening two critical up-the-middle positions because you failed to secure a real shortstop to begin the season?
Complete nonsense.
First you said this was Cora’s fault for not pulling some of his starters with a 3-run lead in the 9th. After even GA & KD disagreed with your response, now you completely changed your argument.
Just take the loss.and admit that you were wrong.
You mean utilize the bullpen the way all teams do? If you’re gonna chime in, it helps to have a basic understanding.
Joe – I changed nothing. As for GASox and KD, they won’t always agree with me because we are all independent thinkers … unlike the Bloom suckups who always, always feel compelled to support Bloom.
DTD – You must be new to baseball. It is very common not only to remove good hitters for defensive replacements, but also for pinch runners in close games. Manny and Ortiz were removed often for faster runners.
And your “sketchy” comment is a joke considering the BP includes Schreiber, Martin and Jansen. Sounds like you think it’s still 2022 or 2020.
Yes, you remove bad fielders, not your best defensive outfielder. And you certainly don’t do it to prevent injury to someone who wasn’t injured at the time. And yes, all of those pitchers have a very recent, as recent as last yr, history of sketchiness. You can fan boy all you’d like, that’s not a back end of the bullpen that inspires a ton of confidence.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – I changed nothing.
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You changed everything. The subject at hand was Duvall. Then you started talking about Bogaerts moving to SD. These two subjects have nothing to do with each other.
It’s easy to say the 4 run lead should hold and do a Monday morning quarterback. But remember, even just the other day the Tigers had a shot to tie and go for a win in the 9th with a 3 run lead in place. Only 1 out and the chance to steal the win.
It’s baseball, funny things happen, and, the defense (especially everyone to left) hasn’t been good.
If it was a 7 run lead I’d join the questioning chorus, but, 4 runs with all those men on base in the other game, and the way the baseball is flying this year, proves why you can’t lift with a 4 run lead in any game right now.
GASox – It was a three-run 9th inning lead ;O)
GASoxFan
If it was a 7 run lead I’d join the questioning chorus,
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At least then it would be a discussion. And as KD mentions elsewhere, if the RS were to go for a defensive replacement, it would more likely be Devers than Duvall. Just for fun, I looked at the NYY 2-run win the same day. Do you know how many substitutions? -0-
Or the game before that, when the NYY won by an identical 4-1 score? -0- substitutions. Wholesale replacements with a 3-run lead isn’t a serious discussion.
As you say, maybe with a 7-run lead, maybe. But even at that point, I’d be doing it to lessen the wear-and tear, not because I think someone is going to break their wrist.
Agreed Joe. Having the lead with 4 runs on the board is nothing. 2 men on and a guy can tie with one swing.
Still, I remember sitting in fenway for some memorable offensive showdowns where even a 6 run lead wasn’t safe.
Some people complain over everything. I only complain over things I see that, to me, seem clearly wrong. THIS front office leaves me on the wrong side of the fence with them probably 90% of the time.
Cora? I’ve got other things not to like about him, but, defensive substitutions in THIS case isn’t one of them.
At that point in the 9th, it felt like a solid 25% that we’d blow the lead. The run expectancy at that point was 1.597. Jansen wasn’t getting shelled, but he wasn’t sharp either. A long double would’ve tied the score.
Occasionally someone will get pulled with a 3-run lead, but that’s usually with a solid defensive upgrade, and generally after a guy has just hit. No one would ever pull a guy simply because they are afraid he is going to get hurt, unless he is already limping.
Man I would pay good money to sit at Fenway Park with JoeBrady on one side of me and Fever Pitch Guy on the other side. LOL! Now that would be a learning experience & a laugh riot and a good afternoon out for baseball.
S-O-B – Why get in the way? What you ought to wish for is to sit one row behind Fever. Then put acell on his left, JoeBrady on his right. For good measure stick me on the other side of JoeBrady, then stick rsmith on my right.
THAT would be some entertainment.
Of course first we need a non-bloom led team.so it’s worth the cost to see the on field product….
Your idea is even better! Love it. That would be a hoot. Never been to Fenway, so it would be a treat even to see a Bloom-led team, but I know what you’re sayin’ lol.
Attendance is down again from last year, which was down from the year before… you get the idea. I saw one article from the PIT series, they barely sold 21,000 tickets, and even less than that showed up.
For the first time I recall since before Theo Epstein there is no longer a wait-list for season tickets.
Resellers on stubhub and similar platforms have been selling seats under $7 to go to fenway, which, is relatively unheard of… at least pre bloom, or before Bush was in the White House.
It’s a cheap time to go for the experience, as long as you aren’t hoping to see a good outing from Boston.
Joe – We all know KD doesn’t like Devers, and his complaints about Raffy’s defense are justified.
But you are trolling by comparing the oldest (34), often injured, inexperienced $7M CF’er Duvall to a 26-year-old, never injured $330M third baseman who has started all of his 674 MLB career games at 3B.
There’s a reason why Duvall was frequently pulled for defensive replacements prior to this season. He is a fragile high-injury-risk CF’er, whereas Devers is an extremely low-injury-risk third baseman.
Ignorant – Agreed! But Joe only goes to Yankee Stadium, if at all.
Funny thing is, when I’m at games I pay less attention to what’s happening on the field because of everything going on around me. There’s always good conversations going on in the seats, especially when half the crowd has had a drink or two. LOL!
GASox – Let’s not leave out KD!
Ignorant – If you do go to Fenway someday, splurge on a front row Monster seat near the left field line. It’s a fantastic experience.
GASox – Last year’s attendance was the lowest non-Covid since 2000.
I really think there’s a chance this year’s attendance will drop below 2M for the first time since 1985 (not including Covid or labor dispute seasons).
It’s a travesty how far down Bloom has taken the team. At least in 2012,2014 & 2015 there were longtime stars on the roster to come see. Now it’s basically just Devers, that’s it. So very sad.
Fever, I’ve sat in almost every section of fenway through the years, and, I agree S-O-B should get the monster experience. I still have a couple sections left near the plate, and, the alcohol free lf ‘family’ sections, a couple RF roof boxes, and of course, obviously not all the stools or tables in rf but have been in both areas.
For right now I’m not expecting to check any off until bloom is gone. Henry gets none of my $$$ till that happens.
For my wife’s first fenway game I took her to the front row of LF monster seats, not on the line, but 3 boxes up from it. That was a sox-yankees game. Great experience, but, I’ve noticed the monster exclusive food options aren’t as good as they once were.
My first ever monster experience came from a futures double header, which was a VERY cheap way to experience the seats in the ballpark. So anyone who wants to see lots of good baseball in a doubleheader format for short money, that’s the way to go.
when I’m at games I pay less attention to what’s happening on the field
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I guess that explains a lot.
dewey – Of course you are 100% correct, and they had both Tapia and Yoshida they could have brought off the bench to play OF.
It was absolutely inexcusable to leave him in the 9th inning.
Oh please. The “something bad happened so we just find someone to blame for it” approach is nothing but childish. He hasn’t been lifted for a defensive replacement once this year so to sit there second guessing after he gets injured why we wasn’t lifted for a defensive replacement in a 3-run game is ridiculous. Yes it’s disappointing that he got injured. But stop trying to blame someone for an unfortunate incident. Stuff happens.
The “something bad happened so we just find someone to blame for it” approach is nothing but childish.
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If your only interest in commenting is to blame Cora and/or Bloom for 100% of everything, then it makes perfect sense.
Everything else is the ‘chaos theory’ in effect. The same posters will blame Bloom and/or Cora if one of the players gets hit by a meteor.
FWIW, it’s unfortunate, but every team gets hit with injuries. Assuming that he is back in two months, the difference between Duvall and Ref/Tapia should be less than one win. Our current streak of impressive pitching is probably a good bit more important.
Who got hit by a meteor??? That is SO Bloom’s fault. He had done the calculations. I can’t believe he didn’t have them move. What a dolt.
“absolutely inexcusable to leave him in the 9th inning.”
Duvall hasnt been substituted for in any game this season, not even in the 14-5 win over Detroit. Did anyone complain about this before? NOT ONE COMMENT. Yet, in a game where the Red Sox are struggling to score runs, you people wanted the manager to pull the best offensive weapon the team has had so far? Not just shouldve, its “INEXCUSEABLE”. I wish he had said “inconceivable”.
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If he had been pulled, why do I feel the same exact people would be typing up a storm about him being removed.
rsmith
Cora in principle doesn’t do late protective replacements in matches with minimum advantage or large advantage is this his conception.
If Casas, Turner, Yoshida doesn’t activate in an attack in the nearest matches it will very badly look, hope on one Devers in an attack foolishly.
ROTFLMAO!
You need to stop and re-group. Now you are suggesting that Yoshida should’ve come in for defensive purposes?
I wish I knew what you were saying.
king – As others have already mentioned, he was lifted for a defensive replacement numerous times before this season.
You might want to do a little research next time before writing something that is completely illogical.
If you had actually thought about it more, and realized the short bench and Cora’s managing this season had left little opportunity for a defensive replacement, then you’d understand Cora SHOULD have replaced him a few times but couldn’t because of roster mismanagement.
And if you REALLY want to use your brain, look at the box scores for the season.
There were only TWO OTHER GAMES in which the Sox had to protect a lead of 3 or more runs in the 9th inning.
April 8 – Sox were winning 14-2 but Duvall couldn’t be replaced because ALL THE OUTFIELDERS were already used (Yoshida, Ref, Dugie, Tapia).
Which means there was only ONE OTHER GAME in which Duvall could have been replaced in the 9th but wasn’t..
Can you please put some effort in your comments going forward.
Joe – Accountability was never your strong point, and you show it every time you give Cora & Bloom credit for all the good decisions and success while putting the blame on the players for all the bad decisions and failures.
Duvall is not gonna ask to be pulled from a game for a defensive replacement, ever. Just like no pitcher ever asks to come out of the game.
The manager decides who plays and when. If a fragile, old, inexperienced CF’er doesn’t need to stay in CF with a 3-run 9th-inning lead then it’s up to the manager to pull him. Stop trolling.
Fever – they also won’t give credit for anyone being right just because they’ve been critical of Bloom.
Kike has been struggling defensively at SS which I’ve said all offseason was likely based on his history. But no, I was just being a troll in their eyes. Now he’s struggling, and, instead of acknowledging I was right, they brush it off saying it wasn’t based on pointing out fangraphs data, it was because I’m hating on everything the team does….
Duvall is not gonna ask to be pulled from a game for a defensive replacement, ever.
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Of course not, but did I ever make that statement?
Adam Duval is an excellent defender. Why replace him?
Garry – One word answer – hindsight. If he doesn’t hurt himself, nobody thinks to replace the best defender in CF on the team.
If someone wants to argue that Devers and Duvall were carrying the team then you’d have to argue that Devers would need to come out in the ninth as well. Heck, that would be a massive upgrade defensively but nobody thinks like that until Devers hurts himself making one of his over 50 misplays per year. Then people would question why he is playing in the 9th!!!
See, I question why he’s playing ANY inning, but that’s just me. The guys IS the Red Sox offense now. What better reason to DH him if making 50 misplays a year isn’t enough reason.
Who should the BoSox sub in CF then? Raimel Tapia is not as good as Duval in the OF.
Garry – Great question!! It’s one that Bloom SHOULD HAVE addressed this off season. Duvall is similar to JBJ in that JBJ was a better fielder who couldn’t hit and Duvall is their best CF who has huge hot streaks and cold streaks. He’s great when he’s hot and devastating when he’s cold but his defense is consistently good and better than anyone else on the team now that Mookie, JBJ and Benny are gone thanks to Bloom.
I have no issue with playing Duvall every inning in CF when he’s hot. For me the question is who do you use when he’s not? Duran who hasn’t hit or fielded well? Kiki who can field adequately but hits .240 at best. Tapia who is shaky on defense but a decent contributor on offense. There is no option that has both offensive and defensive skills.
You know who is responsible for creating good choices for Cora? Bloom.!!
Yep, just one more example of him not doing his job well. His extension makes less sense than paying Devers $5MM over market as a one dimensional DH playing 3B badly. Ownership has to take responsibility for the mess that is the Boston Red Sox 2023 edition.
Are you Red Sox Nation?
KD – when you look at last offseason, there’s 2 trains of thought.
1) once again bloom made things up on the fly rather than having a whole-roster comprehensive attack plan to build a team; or
2) they really didn’t think Bogey would leave. In a world WITH Bogey in the fold, kike is back in CF, Verdugo is still the RF, and they still wanted Yoshi in LF. Then refsnyder is at least your 4th OF with Tapia waiting, and, maybe they go after one other piece to upgrade that mix.
Option 2 seems reasonable, except, they didn’t put enough weight early on into locking Bogey in if that’s the case and we’re caught flat footed to patch things together
Also, they were over-invested in the idea of moving a healthy Story over to his natural position, with no backup plan in the face of the very real probability that there was, in reality, no healthy Story on the squad.
The only hitch in that thinking Joe is that they didn’t really have a GOOD 2b option either, and, hadn’t really pursued one early in free agency.
Had they been hunting a 2b upgrade since November I would’ve believed the Bogey situation was lip service and going through the motions to look like they tried, never intending him to return.
I’d stick with either making it up as they go, or, missed big time on what they expected to be a cornerstone of the roster construction.
2) they really didn’t think Bogey would leave.
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They were never re-signing Bogaerts. Right or wrong, they are counting on Mayer to be our long-term SS. That meant either Bogaerts or Devers was going to be our long-term 3B. I could argue for or against either, but it was never going to be both.
JoeBrady
Mayer can develop and not develop as experts suppose and shorts-feet we need now.
Bloom loves projects that go out after injury because they are cheap.
To give injuring SS 140 million, play the short that under a question in the future and not to prolong a franchising player as Bogaerts it is dullness.
This cascade of incompetent decisions resulted in a that situation that exists now.
It on Bloom.
Again it seems Kiki leading .097
Cora in the repertoire nothing changes.
As I mentioned in my post, “right or wrong”. I was explaining to GA why Bogaerts wasn’t on the team, or was ever likely to be on the team. That had nothing to do with Story.
As I’ve said before Joe, Mayer is FAR from any guarantee to ever become a regular major leaguer let alone an all star like Bogey.
Mayer has opened the hear in high a-ball. So far in a miniscule sample he is 1 for 7. He saw his production drop last year when making the move from A to High A ball, and, hasn’t had a quick start yet this year.
Many many MANY over-hyped prospects fail. Hopefully Mayer doesn’t. But sacrificing a position on your mlb roster for 3 or 4 years to HOPE a prospect makes it is bad decision making for any ball club.
Bogey could’ve been here for those three or for years and become a DH, or, a 3b and Devers at dh. The fact Mayer, if he made it, would be making very little means he wouldn’t require resources to have around.
Bloom blew it with Bogey. That’s clear.
Mayer hasn’t had a quick start? You can’t acknowledge it’s a minuscule sample size (literally 2 games and 7abs) and then try to say he’s off to a slow start when he’s barely started playing.
Also Mayer performed well in high last year. He got off to a slow start where he (like many other players before him) needed time to adjust before finishing strong.
Third start for Mayer…
Again, ZERO hits.
Again, small sample, and, again, SLOW start.
that’s not a slow start. Get back to us at the end of the month then you can all it slow start. 10 abs is absolutely nothing in the course of a season. Your argument is weak to the point of disingenuous.
Looks like he’s going to be 2 for 14 in 4 games, a .143 with .580 ops.
When you’re anointing a guy as a future all-star level player, the equal or better of bogey rendering him disposable without a future, then opening his third professional season, and still only in high a ball, with that level of production is not promising. He wasn’t some 15 yr old international player. He should be moving along better by now.
Contrast that with what the 20 year old youngster in StL has done, hitting safely in 12 straight MLB level games after skipping AAA. Now that’s a promising kid.
Mayer remains…. nothing. Until he progresses and shows some ability against the upper levels, he’s nothing and its foolish to talk as if he’s some amazing stud.
I’m not yet labeling him a bust, it’ll be years to know that, but, I am calling him over-hyped.
it’s even more foolish to label a guy with 14 abs in four games overhyped and then compare him to Jordan Walker. It’s the epitome of lazy analysis. It lacks any form of objectivity or knowledge of how baseball players develop but by all means keep trying to build that straw man
He’s overhyped based on 2 years plus 14 at bats. Not just 14 ABs.
He’s consistently been a top 10-15 prospect in all of baseball according to pretty much every prospect guide and ranking service so he’s clearly not overhyped. Your opinion on the current front office and dislike for the fact that he was drafted by the current front office doesn’t change that.
Who drafted him, and my opinion of the front office has nothing to do with anything. You allow that to color YOUR objectivity, you can’t see past that.
How many former top 15 prospects have been busts? The answer, most of them.
Again bringing up other nebulous top 15 prospects is terrible analysis that’s not routed in any actual fact. You have zero objectivity in this case. Your analysis is solely based on your dislike of the front office. mine has nothing to do with how I feel about the front office. I’m basing mine on his stats, and performance as well as what baseball experts have to say across several sources (Talent pipe, BA etc) . Your opinion is routed in nothing more than dislike and speculation based on that dislike of the front office. You have yet to provide any concrete evidence to support your position other than straw man arguments (comparing him to extreme cases on either end of the spectrum) and then by questioning my objectivity.
Acell – My analysis is based solely on his performance and results on the field, and his progress or lack there of compared to his over-touted nebulous ‘rankings’ which, again, based in FACT show most such ‘ranked’ prospects fail to reach anything close to their touted potential.
If you have concrete FACT I am basing anything on my opinion of this front office post it here. Not just your OPINION, show FACT. Show the EXACT connection you allege. Lots of reporters and beat writers are down on bloom and his failed moves and poor judgment. They are, like me, STILL objectively looking at moves, at questioning them / rating them poorly accordingly.
There is nothing. No connection, no basis connected to my feelings about this front office performance, which I both admit how I feel about them, and, disclaim any connection impacting any objectivity. You like to mouth off, so, PROVE IT.
You tried making the same argument when I used statistics and data to say Kike was a poor choice for SS and would likely struggle there. I was right. He has struggled, and, been error prone. You were wrong. Again.
Take off your bloom colored glasses, or, admit you’re on his payroll as some type of influencer and be done with it.
Bringing up Hernedez (which we’ve never discussed) is another attempt to distract from the fact that your opinion regarding Mayer is not based on facts nor logic.
Second of all you constantly bash the front office in practically every post. it seeps into everything you say. Your dislike for mayer is not based on his progress or his stats because both have been on track for what was expected. If the consensus among experts is that Mayer belongs in the top 10 overall in all of baseball then you really don’t have a case for him being overhyped.
third unlike you I did provide facts. His stats back up what I have said as have people that are actually experts on player development and prospects. The only thing you’ve done to support your point is bring up extreme examples (Walker) or specious arguments (top 15 prospects failing).
i love it how the go to explanation for you and KD is that someone must be an influencer (like you guys just learned what that meant in context) because every post that isn’t devoted to bashing bloom must be an influencer. I’m even handed in my discussion. likewise for you saying that I like to “mouth off” when I call you out for your poor reasoning, straw man arguments, and clearly biased takes rich to the point hypocritical. If disagreeing with you is mouthing off then make better arguments that don’t involve flimsy statements that don’t hold up.
Again all that you did was build a straw man argument. And not for nothing just because you disclose that you have a bias doesn’t suddenly make that bias go away nor make what you say objective.
Again Acell you try to twist and manipulate words.
I see you failed to give one shred of proof I asked for. I accept that as you admitting to be wrong and making unsupported speculative arguments.
Telling how you deflect on certain points rather than deny or admit. Its a pattern too.
Nowhere, EVER, have I admitted to any bias against the front office. I have said I hate bloom based on his abysmal job performance, poor decision making, and lack of results.
I’m not twisting or manipulating anything. Just because you don’t understand what I wrote or just don’t want to understand it doesn’t mean I twisted your words nor does it mean I didn’t provide proof.
Now you’re trying to claim that I admitted I’m wrong because you couldn’t understand what I wrote. The only person who didn’t provide any proof regarding Mayer which was the point outside of specious reasons and making a straw man argument is you.
You stated your dislike to hatred for the front office in pretty much every post. the proof of your bias is in everything you write. case in point your last post where you admitted to hating the front office Bloom etc. That is an inherit bias. You can try to parse words all you want but that’s a bias. Those two things aren’t mutually exculsive. You can try and deny that all you want but that doesn’t change anything.
Literally everything you claim that I’m doing (deflecting on a point, not providing proof) not to mention trying to change the argument to avoid the fact that you’re wrong about Mayer is exactly what you’re doing.
No, acell, it’s not.
You can’t point to the ‘opinions of all the rankings’ as demonstrative of Mayer as a perennial mlb all-star talent on a level of bogey and justifiable replacement for him years before he has shown any such ability, and, then disclaim the literally tens of thousands of times those rankings and their analysts you hold in high regard are wrong when I bring up the high HIGH failure rate of ‘top 15 prospects’…
Likewise, I can hate bloom for how he ruined a championship caliber club and shoved the team face first into what is going to be the better part of a decade of low quality and painful results without longstanding talented stars to root for as he destroyed so many facets of what has defined Red Sox baseball since the 1990s.
That doesn’t mean I cannot objectively evaluate a given deal, or prospect, or progress on a player.
Some of us work in jobs every day where you may hate your client, but, vigorously pursue their goals and interests, without bias against them or evaluating options, conduct, etc.
It’s called professionalism. You may not understand the concept. Hate does not equal bias in judgment.
There’s a reason he dropped so much in the draft
He only dropped a couple slots, but, he was touted as the best in the country, and having the best offensive and defensive tools overall in the draft.
When that’s your reported pedigree, greater progress is expected in by your 3rd professional season than opening 2-15 in a ball. He also shown a higher than desirable K rate for a guy who doesn’t counter it with monster power. Of those 15 at bats he struck out an eye popping 8 times, so it’s not a BABIP issue to open the year.
2021 he stuck out 27 of 91; 2022 he struck out 107 of 350. Neither are great. Guy they want him to replace struck out in 992 of 5447. Much, MUCH better.
At 6’2″ his ability to stick as a SS is a questionmark as well. And given how teams usually fudge stats favorable… could be 6-3
So, I rightfully question many aspects of his game, and, wait to see a LOT of improvement.
Meanwhile, nothing all that impressive to me that indicates he’s going to be worth more than Swihart was.
Meanwhile, anyone notice Bogey already has 1.0 WAR on the season? Compared to those guys chaim slotted in… wait. A-ball players don’t generate WAR for the red sox. Well, there’s KiKe and company… err… wait. They haven’t contributed positively either.
Oh well.
GASoxFan
Mayer is heated.
Your hate makes you irrational.
Furthermore the difference is you’re being paid to represent that client hence your duty bound for that professionalism. IT’s really not that complicated but I know that even the simplest of concepts are tough for you to evaluate…
Very small sample size against three bad pitching staffs, but it’s still a huge loss.
Get well soon Adam!
I believe the Red Sox were swept in Boston by the Pirates weren’t they?
What does that have to do with the topic of Adam Duvall?
What are you, the thread cop?
Mind your business. Zip it.
Yes, they were. What does that have to do with the topic?
Worst news possible for the Sox right now. Duvall has been a beast to start the year. Definitely not how they want to start a 4 game set against the Tampa Bay Juggernauts
Ouch, the Red Sox are going to miss this guy’s bat big-time. He was off to a helluva start.
He wasn’t going to keep up that insane pace, but still a loss. Feels like this might end up being a couple months, but perhaps it’s a minor fracture. There’s a lot of bones in the wrist and some breaks are more problematic than others.
It’s been reported as a distal radius fracture which is actually a fracture of one of the 2 forearm bones close to the wrist.
And?
Injuries are hitting extra hard this year.
dang! now how are they gonna trade him?
With every Ozuna/Rosario strikeout, AA is interested (even injured — like when he acquired Rosario).
Chaim shouldn’t have stuck him in CF out of position. Something like this was bound to happen. Almost 35 years old and had started a grand total of 68 games in center coming into the season. It’s not fantasy baseball!
He is capable of playing CF. He has been on teams with great athletes in center like Billy Hamilton so that at least is partially why he never played much CF. He’s so good in right why change it? Of course his rate stats were good when he’s hitting 450! It really didn’t mean a thing. He’s a streaky hitter. But still should’ve been more interest in him during free agency as a good fielder who recently hit 38 hr
“Chaim shouldn’t have stuck him in CF out of position.”
This place gets stupider by the minute. And the guy got 5 likes, lol.
Now one of the Big 4 haters will do a statistical analysis proving his point.
something like this was bound to happen only because he was playing center? He rolled over his wrist trying to make a catch. It was a fluke injury that could have happened anywhere in the outfield
I agree but I also don’t really buy the idea of “fluke injuries” most of the time. It’s the same wrist he hurt last year right? Doesn’t sound like a fluke. Just because a guy slid into a base or dove in the field doesn’t make it a fluke. Some players never get hurt.
Call me crazy but I honestly don’t ever believe in a fluke injury. I would even believe it to be “fated” (in a sense) as a last resort before I believe it was a fluke. He missed lots of last year and gets injured immediately this year. Even getting out of the way of a pitch is not a fluke but a skill and a sign they are loose and paying adequate attention (and wearing proper padding)
He rolled his wrist. Whether you want to believe in fluke injuries or not is irrelevant to your original point. He could have just as easily had this injury playing left or right field.
It is no doubt irrelevant to the point you are referring to, I agree. But they said it was a fluke. I responded. Apparently I should limit myself to one point per thread?lol
No you can make multiple points as long as you just limit your points to one that are actually relevant and you’ll be fine hahaha
I agree their original post is silly but in fairness it is more likely you would get hurt in center field because you cover more ground. But who would even be thinking about that? He was seemingly healthy. Seeing as he hurt the same wrist I think there is a slight bit of truth to what they said. “Bad luck” tho obviously as it rarely happens
So, if he was playing right field, it would be impossible for him to injure his wrist on a similar play.
Understood.
They should have never put Duvall in such an Open Range.
Of course he could have gotten hurt anywhere in the OF. Or anywhere on the field, in the clubhouse, on the team plane, etc. But playing guys out of position, where they have no business being, is only heightening the risk.
Sorry, but there’s a big difference between playing the corners and CF. Angle of the ball off the bat, line of sight, ground to cover, the accompanying OFs, the list goes on.
If you watched the game, the play was clunky as all hell. He did not have a good read/approach/route on it, at all. Probably because he’s not a center fielder.
cc – Of course you are 100% correct. The plan all along has been to stick Duvall in CF until they have a legit SS ready to play, at which time Hernandez moves back to CF which of course is his strongest position.
This, folks, is what we call a “snowball effect”. Because Bloom let Xander walk, it forced Hernandez to SS, thus forcing Duvall to CF.
Duvall (34) is BY FAR the oldest CF’er in MLB right now, minimum 70 innings.
Only TWO are over the age of 30 – Mike Trout (31) and Mike Taylor (32), both of whom have EXTENSIVE experience in CF.
CF is a young man’s position, and CERTAINLY not a position that an inexperienced, old, fragile player like Duvall should be playing. We all said this when he was acquired, don’t let him play much in CF. If only Bloom had listened.
Red Sox mismanagement continues, and it’s reflected in their record.
Losing Xander doesn’t really have to do with this. They had a plan from the start of story who ended up needing surgery and mondesi isn’t back as soon as they expected him to be
@FeverPitch
I am trying to ascertain what you mean by “inexperienced”. He has 730 ML games in the outfield, admittedly the bulk of those games is at LF(442CG), RF (72CG) CF (62CG), however, if you looked at how he played CF with the Braves you wouldn’t question the decision to play him at CF. The only thing I’d say in this regard is that Snitker always used to put Heredia in to replace Duvall late in the game.
LF is his spot, and it’s woeful that he’s now suffered a broken bone when he was raking early on. Recovering from any injury is not easy, especially when it involves an important part in swinging the bat. I hope he will recover fully from his injury.
FPG – Lets be fair. Stating CF is Kiki’s strongest position is an oxymoron. When you are that bad at playing baseball does it really count that it’s the best position? You make it sound like he’s good at it. That’s an exaggeration. He just sucks less at it than SS and any other position on the field. It’s like saying Devers’ best position is 3B!! OK, it’s not that bad but you get the idea.
We had JBJ who was a better fielder than Kiki in CF and a comparable hitter. All those years they should have found a two way long term solution in CF but didn’t. Shouldn’t that still be the desire for CF? Kiki isn’t the answer, he’s the problem. Bloom hasn’t done his job.
rsfan – Xander is a huge loss but you are right that has nothing to do with the Duvall injury. Story was a mistake by Bloom because typically you don’t get an injured player to be your fall back plan for removing a super star from your roster. Story may not be able to play SS so Bloom cut ties with the only SS in the organization that has MLB level skills in 2023. That’s bad planning.
Mondesi has had a return date of end of May since before he got traded. I believe he’s on schedule so far. Heck, Cora has made it sound like Mondesi is going to play 2nd base not SS. Why? I have no idea since Mondesi is the best SS in the organization defensively and as long as he’s healthy he can be a huge addition to a very pathetic starting roster on offense.
rsfan – Story was damaged goods when they signed him, that’s why he was signed so late in the offseason and other teams weren’t seriously in on him.
Mondesi’s health has been a huge question mark, Bloom knew this and took the risk anyway.
Two bad choices that led to Hernandez playing SS.
Fred – That’s exactly what I meant, not much experience in CF. It’s a very challenging position.
Snitker knew what he was doing, replacing Duvall in the late innings.
Fever Pitch Guy
Snitker knew what he was doing, replacing Duvall in the late innings.
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You are completely winging it now, and the hole just keeps getting deeper.
Just for the fun of it, how many times did Snitker replace Duvall in CF last year?
I’ll give you a head start. Duvall started 43 games in CF for Atlanta last year. How many times was he pulled?
Joe – Try not to be so lazy and look this stuff up if you don’t believe everyone.
Last year Duvall started 80 games in the OF, and he was pulled 7 times.
In 2021 he started 132 games in the OF, and he was pulled 29 times.
In 2020 he started 47 games in the OF, and he was pulled 8 times.
baseball-reference.com/players/d/duvalad01.shtml
He started 43 games in CF for Atlanta.
He was pulled -0- times.
Some of these posters are LOL! I thought you knew that no one ever gets hurt in any other position but CF?
He would have busted his wrist just the same performing yo-yo tricks in the dugout. It’s fate. It’s written in the stars.
Fate is nothing more than cause and effect. However people will argue over what constitutes a “cause”. Necessity (ananke) in Greek Philosophy: what must be because of the momentum of past action. This is also Karma in the east misunderstood in the west. Hence I said “fate (in a sense)”.
I’d argue a center fielder is LESS likely to hurt his wrist than a corner outfielder, because they don’t chase foul balls into the netting or over bullpen mounds. Probably even less than a first baseman who risks collisions with runners.
Maybe if he pulled a hamstring you could contrive an argument against center field.
First basemen are rarely hurt on defense. I considered the corner outfield argument yesterday too. I think they are more likely to hurt their leg probably sliding into a wall. Idk.
The best info I can find (which is limited and imperfect) suggests first baseman get injured an average amount compared to other positions:
https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/maurybrown/files/2015/10/kitman_labs_mlb_injuries_infographic-636×1940.jpg?format=jpg&width=960
And way more than any other non-pitching position in terms of money on the IL, as you can see.
Rishi, see Evan White, Gold Glove firstbaseman, Mariners, perpetually injured for three years now with various groin and “core” injuries. Can’t seem to stay healthy.
Vazquez?
This doesn’t sound good. And Bobby Dalbec is pretty useless to be honest.
Dalbec is useless? Have you looked at this team? Kiki is useless, Arroyo is useless, McGuire is useless so he should fit right in with the starting hitters.
Yoshida hasn’t seen good pitching yet, Duvall was on one of his famous hot streaks which are typically followed by his famous cold streaks but overall is typically useless, Verdugo is in Cora’s doghouse for some reason so Cora has rendered the league average player useless.
So other than Devers, who isn’t useless on offense? JT is the only name that comes to mind. Dalbec is no worse than half the guys in the starting line-up and like Duvall can go on some incredible hot and cold streaks. Let’s hope if he gets playing time he has a first half like his career second halves. His career second half line is .258/.321/.549/.869.
It kills me how people remember the two good weeks kiki had but forget the two great second halves that Dalbec has had.
not to mention that Kike also has 5 errors already at SS
Randy – Fun fact. If you add Kiki’s batting average and fielding percentage it doesn’t total 1.00!!!
That’s remarkable. Might need to contact Ripley’s.
By comparison Bogey (Kiki’s predecessor at SS is now in SD) is hitting just 227 points higher than Kiki!! .324 to .097 That’s a bit of egg on all those contributors that said he was past his prime and not worth the $30MM Boston should have offered him.
Bogey’s .977 fielding % is just a tad bit higher than Kiki’s at .875!! hahaha
Seriously, is anybody surprised by these numbers besides Bloom?
If you add Bogey’s batting average and fielding percentage it’s 1.341.
That’s more than 340 points higher than Kiki’s!! $10MM vs $30MM
Sure was smart to go cheap. Bang for the buck!! hahaha
Based on the numbers I’d say Bogey might be under paid and Kiki is about $9.2MM over paid!!
Yeah, I’ve seen the team, I’m not proud. But way to pivot to another Sox shaming response when it was about Dalbec. As bad as they are, take your negativity elsewhere because that’s literally all you want to post.
Bloom’s BFF – Posting negativity isn’t the only thing I post. Maybe that’s all your remember because it differs from your opinion but I post lots of positives when there are positives.
Do you not understand that a vocal upset fan base is one way to try to promote change? I was a real positive person in 2018. I’ve been real positive in the past and I’m sure I will be in the future but I can’t tell you when because I base my opinions on performance so until performance happens I can’t tell you it’s good or bad. When someone doesn’t do their job well, it’s ok to point that out just like it’s ok to compliment them if they do their job well. In 2018 compliments were a plenty. In 2023 they are nearly non-existent. That’s not on me. That’s on ownership, Bloom and Cora.
I’ve said this pitching staff is better than expected despite Paxton being a waste of money. I complain about the dismantling of the hitting and the defense. I don’t hate the team because I point out the shortcomings, I’m a huge long time fan of the team and passionate about their success.
I don’t believe Dalbec is as bad as you say. That’s positive. I think Cora short-changed him like he did Chavis, Holt and many others. Cora plays favorites which is not in the best interest of the team so that makes me unhappy. Kiki doesn’t belong on the team. He’s failed miserably other than a two week period in 2021. He’s hitting under .150 in 2023, he’s hit under .239 since joining the Red Sox and yet he bats lead off and plays a critical position like SS badly.
Your issue with Dalbec is obviously a personal issue. I think singling out a bench guy who didn’t get a fair chance while not addressing the elephant in the room (Kiki) is unfair to Dalbec. He has 2 hits in 6 at bats and Kiki has 5 in 40 while batting lead off the majority of the time. Dalbec is one of 5 guys hitting .333 or more and Kiki is one of 4 guys hitting .150 or less.
So why pick on Dalbec? There are much bigger fish to fry.
Also, I didn’t respond to your Dalbec statement by providing commentary on your personally. I simply pointed out that Dalbec being singled out on a team full of Dalbecs didn’t seem fair. You on the other hand made your comment personal by commenting on me not the topic. There is no reason to go there. I can handle you seeing Dalbec differently than me, I just thought you should understand that some folks see Dalbec as no different than most of the team. They are not high quality players like Mookie, Bogey, Benny, Schwarber or even Renfroe. It’s quality players that make for a quality team. We know this because we had this until Bloom changed things. Now I think it’s time to change things back and rebuild the greatness we had just 3 short years ago.
Okay, your banned. The way you address people is ridiculous. You bait them and then try to guilt them or make them feel like they are wrong about their opinion. I don’t need to deal with that. I came here to talk baseball, not cause drama.
I think that Dalbec will go out against lefties ( he more effective against them ), also I hope that Casas will be in this composition, we must use all accessible power bats.
1.Verdugo RF
2.Devers 3B
3.Turner DH
4.Yoshida LF
5. Dalbec SS
6.Casas 1B
7.Arroyo 2B
8.McGuire C
9.Kike CF
Hey I am sorry to hear this, he raked against the Orioles and was having a terrific season
Be back soon
Nothing like keeping your injury prone, 34-year-old outfielder (who is really a corner outfielder now playing centerfield), who is coming off of surgery, in the game on defense for the ninth inning while leading five to one. Cora L
It was 4-1 with the tying run on 1st, you pathetic nimrod.
Joseph – Why so nasty to Bob? He made a mistake on the score, but his point is still valid. Duvall is made of glass, he should be handled with care.
Did you not see the play that ended his season last year? He just barely tapped the left field wall.
Because if he did not know the score, he shouldn’t comment. It’s an important part of the conversation. He’d still be wrong, but at least it would sound like he gave it some thought.
Joe – He made a number mistake, it has nothing to do with knowledge. This isn’t football, 162 games makes it hard to keep track of every score. You can correct him on the score without being nasty about it, like I did with GASox.
At least in some spots I posted I had 4-1 referenced… but others I had 4 runs. I blame pain meds 😉
He was teeing up the ball and smacking it so hard against Tigers pitching that this alone could have fractured his wrist! The defensive play might’ve just finished him off… /s
Dude cool players need to stop getting hurt
Save the hustle for the playoffs. Duvall should have known better.
If there’s a less darker side to this, his current numbers weren’t sustainable. Duvall never walked much and strikes out plenty. IMO, AL pitchers weren’t familiar with pitching to him. Eventually, adjustments would have been made.
Bright – I see your point, but his chase rate was dramatically improved which leads me to believe that it was at least possible he could have continued to produce above his career averages.
Go get Tyler O’Neill from the Cardinals!
(Sadly, it doesn’t look like they have any pitching to give.)
The BoSox do have pitchers to trade but Tyler O’Neill isn’t the type of player they need. The BoSox aren’t one position player away. They need to get healthy.
Hear me out, tyler oneill, knizer, dejong and matz, for sale, durran and dalbec. Cards take all salary as does the red Sox. Saves the Sox some money and gets them the outfielder they need. You get matz and hos bloated contract back. Cards take sales bloated contract, which he is better than matz no matter what the current stats say. It’s like bad contract and spare parts for bad contracts and spare parts. Helps both teams. Oneill is the best player in the trade because of his play and contract, but knizer and dejong have less value I think than durran and dalbec. Pretty even swap
Tyler O’Neil is terrible. Stay away from him at all costs.
Shhhhhhhh. Don’t tell everyone. 🙂
Seriously, he’s not “terrible” as much as he is “streaky” or “injury-prone” because of his stiff, muscly body.
caused by his steroid use and it is well known. STAY AWAY
The Red Sox have two players who they can’t afford to get hurt. Devers and Sale (even though he’s off to a shaky start recovering from 3 years off).
Duvall was next on the list but ONLY because he was hot. Look at the upside, there is no way to know when the exceptional hot streak would have ended and the exceptional cold streak would have started. The injury resets the clock so he could be hot or cold when he comes back and Boston avoided his corresponding cold spell after two weeks of HOT. That’s a bonus!!
Now, cross your fingers that Devers and Sale stay healthy. 74 wins isn’t great but the growth of the pitching staff and the development of Mayer and Yorke and others in the farm system can all help to make 2023 positive despite their record.
Tampa Bay away for 4 then home for 4 with Trout and LAA and 3 with Vazquez and MIN should give fans a peek into the rest of the 2023 season. They are projected to go 5-7 during the next 12 games after going 5-4 rather than 6-3 as projected by the first 3 weak opponents.. If they can do better than that there is hope for 2023. If they do worse, then maybe we can get a new GM and Manager sooner rather than later because the subsequent 10 series are against:
MIL, BAL, CLE, TOR, PHI, ATL, STL, SEA SD and LAA for the second time.
That’s a part of the schedule that is a bit more difficult than BAL, PIT and DET. A healthy Mondesi could lessen the loss of Duvall but that’s not imminent so the team needs to suck it up and play as far over their heads as possible and hope the pitching staff can hold off the better hitting they are about to see.
Did anyone notice that the lead-off hitter versus TB is the guy hitting .103 so far this season and below .239 for his time in Boston but Verdugo who is hitting .342 is hitting SIXTH!!!!
For you Cora fans, I rest my case. Worst manager in baseball.
Quick update….. Kiki went hitless in 3 at bats bringing his 2023 average below 1/2 of the Mendoza line!!!! hahaha
He’s hitting a whopping .097 but is leading off while Verdugo bats 6th!!
Shutout 1-0 against TB today with 3 hits. Yoshida, Arroyo and Dalbec.
Through 10 games against mostly bad teams the hitting which so many have said will be fine without Bogey, JD, Vazquez not to mention Renfroe, Schwarber, Mookie and all the others Bloom got rid of is:
Kiki – .097
Devers – .302 (remaining 2018 champ – last man standing thanks to Bloom)
Turner – .189
Yoshida = .235
Refsnyder – .200
Tapia – .429 (came off the bench tonight. Why use a .429 hitter? hahaha)
Verdugo – .325 (BATTING 6th!!! hahaha)
Arroyo – .194
Casas – .172
Dalbec – 1.000 (yep he finally got an at bat and got one of three hits!!)
Wong – .130 (Freidman over-hyped back-up catcher)
THIS IS YOUR 2023 BOSTON RED SOX!!! Anyone else embarrassed or humiliated by the team being put on the field daily? Thank BLOOM for this line-up.
5-5 such a gross over-statement of this team’s skill level.
They were once a great hitting team, now all that is left is Devers!! Stay healthy Raffy!!! Even if you make 50 misplays, the team needs your bat!!!
Cora – Nice job with the line-up!!! Why play the best players when you can play your good buddy’s son who belongs in the minors?
Another homer with rose-colored glasses geez KD, time for a reality check.
Ignorant – Funny, funny response. Not sure everyone understood the sarcasm. You got a thumbs up and I think it’s because it’s one of the guys that doesn’t like me and they were thinking you said something bad about my comment!! I hope it was someone who truly appreciates great sarcasm!
Who would have thought being a homer was standing in the front yard and screaming at the top of your lungs for the wrecking crew to stop the demolition of a great institution. Most people just dismiss it as a crazy person simply wanting their own way not the last line of defense against a renegade GM who has no long term ties with the organization he is destroying. Yes, I feel like since Feb of 2020 I’ve been that guy on the lawn tied to a tree in hopes of stopping the destruction but the Bloom crew simply uprooted my tree and dropped it in a land fill!!
The house is now gone. The foundation is all but destroyed and the one block of granite left cost $31MM a year and provides about $25MM in value. Time to hire a new architect and crew. It’s time to invest in stars not low probability long shot risks. Pull the cord and lets stop this train and ask Bloom and Cora to get off!! Today, APRIL 11th!!
KD, I wish I could give this post two thumbs up! Your well written lament for your beloved team rings true for all diehard baseball fans; we have all been thru the booms & busts and recognize the anguish mixed with dark humor which is the salve that eases our path. I’m a Mariners fan but follow the Red Sox as a fascinating yet quixotic baseball institution. Cheers & hope to see you more on the boards!
Ignorant – Distant fan of the Mariners since you acquired Dan Wilson years ago. Big Griffey fan, AROD and Ichiro not to mention Big Unit, Edgar and King Felix.
Love the young outfield. It must be great being in the exact opposite position of the Red Sox. Nothing but a bright future ahead!! Julio is very special. If he played for Bloom he’d be a borderline keeper!!! Bloom is so bad!!
Sox are well on the way to their 3rd last place AL East finish in Bloom’s 4 years on the job. Nuff said.
KD – Fantastic post, I totally agree!! When a player is struggling as bad as Hernandez is, you DON’T let him try to work out his problems at the top of the lineup. That’s pure insanity, especially with such a weak lineup surrounding him.
Tonight’s game went exactly as I expected. Close and low scoring, with TB’s offense producing just enough to win. Pivetta was awesome once again, he seems to always dominate in The Trop.
Tonight was supposed to be Boston’s best chance to win in the series, now they face McClanahan, Springs and Eflin … good luck with that!
FPG – I question whether he’s having a problem!! He’s just bad at hitting. Ten years of evidence account for his .240 lifetime average. He’s not good.
Trust me, if he wasn’t Cora’s good friend’s son, he would be on the bench like he was before he showed up in Boston. No good team can start a player who hits .240 consistently and isn’t a power hitter, doesn’t really have speed and isn’t a good fielder. That’s a description of a guy in AA or maybe AAA!!
Listing the players and their averages really slapped me in the face as to how really bad this team is with respect to hitting and then when you add that most of them are sub par fielders, wow this is going to be a long year.
I’m curious to know if Vegas has a line for Boston scoring ZERO runs in the 4 game series versus TB? That might be a place to invest your money!!
Bobby Dalbec is back and hot!!! Bet he doesn’t play tomorrow!!
KD – I do think Hernandez’s struggles at shortstop could be impacting his hitting, which is common when players struggle defensively.
But Cora is an absolute IDIOT to continue batting him leadoff. He is now 0-for-27, it can’t get any worse than that!!!
KD 17-you raise some good points but I am not sure why you are so high on Dalbec. He is terrible and is now hitting .222 and falling quick. Guy has a hole in his bat. Sox are well on their way to another last place finish under Bloom. Kluber has been exactly as I expected. Should have just kept Wacha. .Team will be sellers AGAIN at the deadline-hopefully Bloom decides to sell this time instead of letting guys walk for next to nothing as FA’s. Despite our so-called “improved” farm system there are no real prospects that BLOOM brought in that are close to being able to help.
KD17
I sometimes can’t agree in some things with you, but you are devilish right here.
As possible to put to the leadoff .107 AVG Kiki, when you have players with .342 AVG Verdugo and .250 AVG Refsnyder…
I worked in statistics of past season against Tampa and that found out :
Red Sox played with Pivetta in a start on Tropicana Field and also lost 0:1.
How do you think who was the leadoff in a that match?
K.Hernandez and he played the SS.
Red Sox on Tropicana in the last 10th matches sustained defeat, in 5 from them order in a count with a difference minimum 2 wound :
2: 3 ( 2: 0 ), 2: 5 ( 2: 0 ), 5: 10, 2: 3 ( 2: 0 ), 1: 4, 4: 5 ( 3: 0 ), 3: 4 ( 3: 1 ), 4: 8, 0: 1, 0: 1.
Bogie – Great data!!
FYI… tonight Cora did start Dalbec. I was wrong. He got a hit so he’s 2 for 2 but when TB put in a righty, Dalbec sat for the .167 hitting Casas.
I guess the going with the hot hand only matters if it’s not Dalbec.
FYI….. An 0 for 4 has improved Kiki’s average to .086. Who says nepotism is dead!!!
I looked this game, Bobby was a light patch in this game.
Very well I remember his hot second half of season of 2021.
We need his bat, while Duvall is injury, it’s a chance for Dalbec to declare oneself in a major league.
I hope that in the third game of series will go out in composition and Dalbec, and Casas against the right debutant of Tampa.
My composition :
1. Verdugo RF
2. Devers 3B
3. Turner DH
4. Yoshida LF
5. Dalbec SS
6. Casas 1B
7.Tapia CF
8.McGuire C
9.Arroyo 2B
Bogie – Love the Verdugo batting lead off. After Mookie got canned I thought Bogey should have led off but if Cora was going to insist on Devers hitting second then I thought Verdugo was the best alternative.
Now, I bat Verdugo first, Yoshida 2nd and Devers 3rd with Turner 4th and Casas 5th and Dalbec 6th then Tapia, McGuire and Arroyo.
We aren’t far apart. I like the Devers Lefty, Turner righty Casas lefty and Dalbec rigthy to create pitching match-up difficulties. If Verdugo gets on Yoshida is a high OBP guy that could lead to two guys on for Devers in the first inning. That was the 2018 formula when Mookie, Benny hit in front of JD. who nearly led the league in RBIs.
Wondering, as he’s now member of the Boston Red Sox, will we get the same Refsnyder jokes?
Kike Hernandez gets $10 million a year. That huts my wallet and I’m not even paying.
Hey, two out of every three hits he’s had were HR’s.
team – Bloom would rather pay $10 for one chicken nugget than $20 for a 12-ounce Filet Mignon.
He’d rather pay $20K for a Chevy Spark than $40K for a Mercedes.
He’d rather pay Trevor Story $140M than $160M for Xander.
‘Nuf Ced.
OUTSTANDING!!!! hahahaha
At some point, the manager has to say, “Hey, we are playing the Tigers, no reason to dive or run into walls here”.
Silly injury.
Hate to see this. I am a big fan of Duvall and always root for his success.
I’m surprised he doesn’t need surgery again. Tough loss for Red Soxes.
As a Braves fan, this hurts me. Hope Adam gets back quickly!
How about DHing him from now on
Eibo = Normally a great idea. But in Boston where Bloom builds the team there is a tendency to over staff the DH position.
First, there is Devers, the worst 3B in Red Sox history. He should DH since his bat is the best of all the potential DHs but his political clout is so great he gets to kill the pitching staff with over 50 mishandled (since the scorekeepers refuse to give him official errors) chances per year.
Second, there is Justin Turner. As a player who could be a grand father soon, he’s more fragile than Duvall and a better hitter.
Third, there is Yoshida. He’s a butcher in the outfield and has no arm for outfield assists and is also a better hitter than Duvall.
The team also has Dalbec, a younger version of Duvall who plays the same position as the 1B of the future according to the front office – Tristan Casas. If Casas and his sub .200 hitting is going to be the 1B then DH could be for Dalbec another sub .200 1B like Casas but with a few more at bats and definitely not liked like Casas by the front office. Maybe Duvall gets to cut in line in front of Dalbec since the front office doesn’t like him and neither does Cora.
So to be fair, there is really no room at DH on the Red Sox roster just ask Schwarber and JD. Duvall can’t even be moved to an easy field like LF because Yoshida has dibs on it for now and of course the under performing defender named Verdugo got displaced by Yoshida. See, fielding isn’t exactly a box Bloom likes to check off when he seeking cheap alternatives at his local Target baseball store.
Good idea but Bloom has preempted the suggestion with 3 years of acquiring DHs who can’t field.
“Most distal radius fractures take 3 months or so to heal before you are able to return to all activities, and full recovery from these injuries can take up to 1 year.”
https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases–conditions/distal-radius-fractures-broken-wrist/#:~:text=Most%20distal%20radius%20fractures%20take,take%20up%20to%201%20year.
If Duvall comes back this year he will be worthless remember how long it took papis wrist injury to heel
completely different injuries though with different recovery times and exceptions etc.
Next article will have him out for the year
Slider – It’s not uncommon for a team to downplay an injury if they are searching to trade for a replacement.
If other teams learn that Story and/or Duvall will be out for the year, they have the leverage on Boston in trade talks.
So yeah, it’s very possible he’s done and we are just not being told about it.
Agree. I was just commenting on these recent injury post that literally change within 10 minutes.
I can’t stand Cora or Bloom, but I can’t blame what happened to Duvall on them.
As for our wonderful line up, well, we knew what we had.
Bobby Dalbec is back just in time for a heat wave in the area. He enjoys cooling the fans off with his constant swing and a miss batting attempts.
He sucks
Stan Papi
Sucks Kiki with 0-27 the leadoff .083 AVG , but exactly not Bobby.
Dalbec 1-1, walk, single, sb vs McClanahan.
Dalbec at SS. L.M.F.A.O.