4:31pm: Snitker indicated the Braves aren’t concerned about the issue. Speaking with reporters this evening, the skipper implied Harris could be back after a minimal stint (via Justin Toscano of the Atlanta Journal Constitution). According to Snitker, the injury was expected to sideline the center fielder for four or five days and the club didn’t want to play a man short.
2:45pm: The Braves announced that outfielder Michael Harris II has been placed on the 10-day injured list due to a lower back strain. Fellow outfielder Eli White was recalled in a corresponding move.
Harris, 22, departed last night’s game with back tightness. After the game, manager Brian Snitker told reporters, including Jeff Schultz of The Athletic, that Harris banged his back on the wall while making a catch. Snitker said that Harris was day-to-day but it seems that the injury may have been a bit more serious than initially thought, given that the club has now decided to give him a breather for at least 10 days.
At this point, it’s unclear how much time the club expect Harris to miss. Given that he was initially described as day-to-day, it would be reasonable to expect a minimum absence, though that’s just a guess. Whatever the timeframe, they will be proceeding without a player who proved last year to be exceptionally talented. He got called up from Double-A straight to the majors, skipping over Triple-A entirely. The jump didn’t seem to phase him, as he hit 19 home runs and stole 20 bases in 114 games. His .297/.339/.514 batting line amounted to a wRC+ of 136. He was also graded as an excellent defender in center, leading to a tally of 4.8 wins above replacement from FanGraphs and a Rookie of the Year award.
With Harris out of action today, the club has put Sam Hilliard in center. He has 88 previous career games at that position, with advanced defensive metrics grading him as slightly below average there. Now that White has been recalled to the roster, he could see some time there as well. He’s considered an excellent defender but hasn’t hit much in the big leagues yet, currently sporting a .185/.260/.296 career batting line. Kevin Pillar has plenty of experience in center but has been spending more time in the corners as he’s aged into his mid-30s.
bhambrave
Not surprised. Get well soon Michael!
avenger65
Finally! A non-oblique injury! Hope he’ll be back soon. I like to see top players play and he’s one of them.
Rishi
All kinds of shoulder injuries for pitchers lately
Braveslifer
Rishi, my 15 year old had arthroscopic surgery for a torn labrum in February. His surgeon is the Braves orthopedic surgeon. He is recommending teams discontinuing long toss programs for players, as they attribute a lot of the shoulder issues from doing long toss over 170 feet.
Rishi
I had same surgery at 15. Do the physical therapy but don’t push it too hard too quickly. The problem is that a torn labrum would repair itself but modern diet, lack of understanding of how to stretch correctly/safely, and many other factors (including teenage boys not understanding the effects of wasting sexual fluid on the body…we are all adults here) prevent it from healing naturally (this is largely my opinion). I tried to play through it in rec ball and had one hit all year. It was humiliating. I had to write and bathe left handed for 2 years before surgery. Also they had me on demerol and oxycodone at same time which is rediculous so watch out for that. The problem is the joint usually connects with stretchy stuff but they put metal in there. I could never throw normal again. Idk if it’s still the same procedure. This was 2007ish. If they heal well work on their mechanics throwing. Wish them the best
rct
Our precious bodily fluids, eh? General Jack Ripper, is that you?
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Hate this for Harris, but Eli White had a great ST so let’s see if he can take advantage of an unfortunate situation.
Rishi
Considering that the body fluids are an extremely refined substance which it takes lots of energy and time to produce and our adrenals which activate that area down there are where we get energy from, yes…it’s important. But I knew a childish person wouldn’t resist. If one really looks into how the lower body is the energy factory of the entire body and that that energy is transmuted into nourishment for the heart and brain (and everything else), then yes it is the foundation of health, along with diet and exercise. Breathing is the other foundation for energy in the body and it is what cleanses our cells (cellular respiration) so deep breathing exercises help healing
Rishi
Luckily top 3 are so hot offensively they can withstand these things for now. And Eli is a great fielder. He once made one of the better catches ever in CF
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Thank you Rishi, I hadn’t considered sexual fluids can play a role. Time to hit the books!
Smacky
Dude went to the Gabe Kapler Night School Of Medicine – mlb.nbcsports.com/2015/08/14/gabe-kapler-men-shoul…
Rishi
Dude went to the basic physiology course. Do you know what adrenal glands are??? And the school of common sense. And the school of physics and the laws of energy. Admittedly some eastern ideas thrown in as well (which in the case of TCM has been going through scientific trials for 50 years in over 400 large experiments which have time and time proven it is usually more effective than modern western medicine which (even your doctor can tell you) is a study of effects, not causes. There is no accepted western scientific theory of what 1.causes an itch 2. autoimmune problems 3. Hiccups 4. IBS 5. Cancer 6. Acid reflux , etc etc etc etc etc. It is simply doctors learning at institutions owned by medical companies that teach them how to diagnose things based on effects (symptoms) so they can profit off prescribing medication. I’m done.
Rishi
I’m getting pretty p’d off about this. U wanna grow the hel up?
Rishi
Grow up.
Rishi
I have been on many types of forums and I must say the only forums more full of childish narcissists are the political ones. Fans just wanna get on here and imply how much smarter they are than others but always show how narrow minded and immature they are. There is hardly a person on here who isn’t essentially a troll in some way. There is also hardly a person on here who has the slightest ability to be objectively intelligent about something. Even the intelligent fans are just rehashing stuff they have read about (stats, stories, etc) but have no actual intelligence beyond memorization.
Rishi
Athletes are generally well aware of this. There was even a show on FSN (I think) ten years or so ago about this with several star athletes participating in the experiment to see how sex effected their performance at sports the next day (although it was inherently a biased experiment and I’m not arguing it is always a bad thing for energy, it depends but I’m not going any further into this subject) as MLB trade rumors has proven to be too immature a place to discuss this
mj-2
Is there some reason we keep Rosario and Ozuna on the roster?
Tigers3232
$$
Rishi
Rosario is fine. Ozuna sucks. Who scored winning run on Thursday?
Tigers3232
Rosario is serviceable and would b fine as the lone weak spot offensively. With Ozuna there as well it compounds a problem.
Rishi
I don’t really see it as a problem (outside of Ozuna). I think they are giving Ozuna a chance and if he isn’t hitting after a month or so I think he is getting cut. I don’t think Rosario is a weak spot personally. Eye problems last year but he has always hit. Also he isn’t the lone “weak spot” as Arcia is certainly no better track record wise (although I believe in him and he has developed decent power which I noticed last year as well). Most teams have far weaker spots in the lineup than a hitter (in Rosario) who has routinely been a 20-30 hr hitter. Now that Harris is out there is a legit weak spot in the order (outside of Ozuna, once again)
Vanilla Good
Oh nooooooooooooo
Smacky
Injury bug biting all the preseason NL East contenders. I know they said it from running into the wall but I didn’t see it. Looked like it was when he slipped starting a slide into second on a steal when he belly flopped it and did a partial scorpion. Also looked like his wrist is what was hurting him right after.
DCartrow
Eli’s coming!!
bravegator
Let’s go Eli. The book of Eli starts now
lamars
I know you are supposed to support the next man up. But Eli White is definitely not someone you get excited for
Rishi
He is if you like defense a lot
LarryJ4
I like what I’ve seen from Pillar. Would rather see him in the lineup instead of Hillard. If they don’t want him in center they can always move Ronald in CF.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Just no. No one wants to see Ronnie and his awkward angles in CF again. He’s mashing, leave him in RF.
RunDMC
They’re not moving Ronald. Leave him be. He’s on a roll, just enjoy it and deal with either Pillar or Hilliard in CF for 15 days.
drasco036
Players can go on the 10 day IL. pitchers go to the 15 day IL
Appalachian_Outlaw
The last thing they should do is risk doing anything to disrupt Ronald’s groove. Throw whomever in CF, doesn’t matter. It’s 15 days- Pillar, Hilliard or White will be fine for that limited amount of time.
bhambrave
It’s actually just 10 days, I think. Pitchers’ IL is 15 days.
User 3595123227
22 year old with a back strain. These baseball players heart getting hurt.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
If you never strained anything in your 20’s it means you were probably an unathletic couch potato. He probably won’t be on the list for more than the minimum time, and if he were older maybe it would have become a more serious injury.
User 3595123227
Hard to believe you had 5 thumbs up with that comment. Bots. I have never in all my years seen so many players get hurt like they do now. Muscle strain. Pulled this pulled that. These are athletes that are supposed to be able to maintain some decent level of health and be able to do their jobs. Yeah I’ve been hurt but you deal with things and go on with life.
Slow day at work
In the past, players would keep quiet about minor injuries and keep playing… while going on 3 for 45 streaks and playing poor defense because of it. I applaud Harris for saying something about it.
User 3595123227
Ok
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Hey, I’m a couch potato and I resemble that remark.
I’ve had strains, pains & mostly stains that can’t be erased.
I’m an old timer who loves his recliner..
Hammerin' Hank
He’s got 10 thumbs up now and you’ve still got none. I’m one of the real people who upvoted.
drasco036
I was 20-21 years old when I blew my back up doing deadlifts. Was that my heart getting hurt?
mj-2
He’s probably vaxed
User 3595123227
Have either of you two noticed the incredible amount of never ending injuries in baseball? It’s impossible not to notice. Unless it’s just you two I don’t know. My comment was not about what happened to you in your 20s. It’s about professional athletes getting hurt constantly.
bhambrave
Players are smarter now. Why play through a minor injury if you risk blowing it up into something worse?
User 3595123227
The injuries……you can say they are speaking there minds about things now but holy cow…….is this really the best they can do? Soon everyone will be on the injured list. It’s becoming epidemic in nature. Nobody gets hurt like these guys. Nobody.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
You sound like you are in your eighties. Better for Harris to take a couple of weeks off and come back healthy than develop a hitch in his swing trying to work around the injury and being toast at 27 like so many players used to end up being.
I imagine it seems like way more injuries because we have a series of websites and 24/7 news cycles these days, unlike the days you seem to pine for. Back then unless it was a guy or your team that was injured you really didn’t hear much about it.
In any case, you have repetitively attempted to make a point that no one else agrees with, time to stop digging and throw the shovel out of the hole. Quit while you’re behind, so to speak.
bhambrave
Do you prefer the days when players were disposable because free agency didn’t exist, and they played through injuries and ended careers early, like Dizzy Dean?
I don’t.
bronxmac77
You’re getting verbally punk slapped, chief.
User 3595123227
Na I’m reading these comments in disbelief that these are living breathing creatures posting on here. I guess I’m the only one who sees the injury epidemic that is completely out of control in baseball. This thing about how players used to keep quiet. Wow. If it was this bad and people just kept quiet it would have been obvious. I post on here knowing the reaction I’ll get. People call it trolling. I call it reading idiot replies to a very obvious problem I originally commented on. Happens alot. These players are getting injured at rates never seen before.
User 3595123227
Lol.
bhambrave
I’d say no. They aren’t getting injured more, they are reporting injuries more, and teams are protecting them more.
User 3595123227
No. This is ridiculous. Something is wrong with conditioning. That’s the other side of the argument. You can keep saying it’s just reported more now if you want and there is some truth to that but this just isn’t right. There is no way your argument holds that much water. Teams want to protect their investment that’s true but that’s also always been true.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
So you are used to everyone thinking you’re dumb then? Cool. At least you’re resilient I guess.
Hammerin' Hank
He’s the same guy who was on here laughing at Daniel Bard’s anxiety issues.
bhambrave
Harris injured himself slamming into the centerfield wall on Wednesday, robbing Goldschmidt of an extra-bases (possibly a homer) hit. He went out to play Thursday, but aggravated the injury. According to Snitker, he could have been ready to play in a few days, but they didn’t want to be a man short, so they IL’d him. They probably wouldn’t have done that a few years ago.
User 3595123227
Lol
User 3595123227
Ok just so I got this right……all of you are saying these injuries in baseball this year and the past few years are the result of players no longer afraid to admit they are hurt? I’m living in the past for not understanding this? The injury bug has been a widely reported issue. None have you have seen that? The overwhelming injury issue has even been discussed on this site and you guys have no idea what I’m talking about? Ok. Gotch.
lamars
Yes,
You’re stuck in the past and just aren’t getting it. Gone are the days of playing through an injury and nowadays every injury is reported and the club decides what’s best for the club and player.
User 3595123227
Lol ok.
jbeerj
I would’ve bet the house Strider would land on the DL before Harris.
bravesnation nc
Get better then run him back out there. Just got back from Truist, honestly and not being a homer. These dudes play and play hard to the 27th out. I can’t even be mad at a loss. I respect and appreciate the effort paying for the drinks and the food and everything else. Proud to be apart of Braves Country. I was able to interact and converse with so many people from different upbringings and backgrounds and political views. But, at the end of the day we agreed to disagree yet came together for our Braves even in defeat. Awesome experience and I truly appreciate Braves Country.
GarryHarris
I don’t understand the interest in Eli White. Except a decent one season, he wasn’t very good in MiLB. I hold no fantasy this would ever occur but IMO, I think the perfect 4th OF for ATL would be BAL Daz Cameron. He is an outstanding defender at all OF positions, has a great arm, excellent speed and ties to GA. I think he is a much better fit than White or Kevin Pillar.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Daz Cameron has never done a single thing in his career. You sound like one of those “go dawgs” nitwits that gets mad when the Falcons don’t draft a UGA guy.
Eli White is fast and very good on defense. Can’t hit much, but his hitting stats are better than Cameron’s at the MLB level I assume and he’s much better in other facets.
DCartrow
But his name is Daz. Dat does da Thang Dat does it, dude.