The Astros named Jeff Bagwell to a new position as a senior advisor to ownership and baseball operations, MLB.com’s Brian McTaggart writes. The new title essentially makes official Bagwell’s increased influence within the organization, as he had already been working as a special assistant within the baseball ops department.
Bagwell told McTaggart that his new role doesn’t come with many new duties, so the Hall-of-Famer will continue to work in a broad capacity, ranging from meeting with Major League and minor league players to offering advice to owner Jim Crane to even acting as a recruiter for the team. (Bagwell joined bench coach Joe Espada and assistant GM Bill Firkus on a trip to Miami to help land Jose Abreu in free agency this past offseason.)
“All I’m trying to do is help the organization be the best it could possibly be, so there’s no such thing as a window [of contention] here and we just continue to maintain winning,” Bagwell said. “Part of that is the big league stuff, making sure we get the right players that fit our organization and what we do — great pitching, great defense and we don’t strike out. Taking that and bringing it all the way down to the minor league system.”
Though all teams have front office advisors in some capacity, the exact nature of the job varies greatly from team to team, or person to person. It is common for former players and franchise legends to appear in these roles, in part to create a past link to team history, and also naturally because there is plenty to be learned from players like Bagwell who have achieved such great heights on the field.
In the Astros’ case, however, Bagwell’s role has come under some scrutiny, as his more old-school approach seemed to clash with the philosophy of former GM James Click. Even though the Astros continued to win during Click’s three years as general manager and even captured the World Series last fall, rumors swirled for months that the Astros would be parting ways with Click after the season, championships notwithstanding. Crane only offered Click a one-year contract extension in November, which Click understandably declined in order to leave the organization (Click later joined the Blue Jays in the role of VP of baseball strategy).
Despite the Astros’ success, Bagwell said last November that he felt the team had become too reliant on analytics. “There are so many things about this game the numbers can’t tell you. The type of person, what he means in our clubhouse, his desire, how he goes about his business,” Bagwell said. “Those are the intangible things I can see when I talk to somebody more than just the numbers. This game is played by humans, man, it’s not played by computers.”
It certainly seemed as though Crane agreed with Bagwell’s stance, and the hiring of Dana Brown (who has a long background as a crosschecker and scout, in addition to his prior role as the Braves’ VP of scouting) as Houston’s new general manager seems to reflect the Astros’ turn towards a more traditional approach. In the larger picture, past reports suggested that Crane took a more personal role within baseball operations in the wake of the Astros’ sign-stealing scandal under past GM Jeff Luhnow, thus allowing for ownership advisors like Bagwell and another legendary name in Reggie Jackson to have more of a voice in the front office.
DCartrow
Bagwell, with his steroid…er..I mean storied past should be a real shot in the butt..er…I mean the arm for this organization.
Latino Heat
Funny you mention steroids without mentioning the Yankees
gbs42
And the evidence to support these accusations, not just pure speculation, is what?
dugmet
Are you kidding? I’m a Mets fan since 1971, I’m not even going to tell you Mike Piazza or David Wright never dabbled.
RodBecksBurnerAccount
Why would you suggest David Wright did? I’ve never heard that accusation, plus he played his whole career under a testing regimen (unlike Piazza).
Dumpster Divin Theo
He’s innocent I tell you. Finger jab like Raffy
Unclenolanrules
Bet you’re the type of guy who talks smack but has never backed it up in his life. There’s a word for that, starts with a P. You can’t even make a good steroids joke.
SODOMOJO
Mlbtraderumors comment of the year! Well done
BStrowman
The beginning of the end!
Dock_Elvis
The Astros have long considered what Bagwell mentioned about intangibles, as “Growth Potential”. It’s been referred to going back to the time of spotting George Springer.
We flip narratives in baseball a lot. But there’s generally been a mix of analytics in some form, and old time baseball approach.
Bagwell is in more of mentor type role. It’s by nature a more personal growth and basic skill responsibility.
mrperkins
If Bagwell has any influence there will be a lot of growth. The players are going to need to order their caps about 2 sizes larger.
gbs42
That’s a second baseless steroid accusation in these comments. So, so clever.
cuban1
Not entirely baseless, he admitted to a reporter for the Houston Chronicle in 1998 that he used androstenedione.
utah cornelius
Changing physiognomy is one kind of evidence.
Tigers3232
Andro was sold over the counter and not banned by MLB. I’m sorry but I have a hard time labeling anyone a PED user based off of them buying products available at GNC.
Dumpster Divin Theo
He innocent finger jab like his lab partner Raffy P
cuban1
It is currently a banned substance, and if taken would result in a failed test as a PED, so MLBs rules against them at the time are irrelevant because there were no rules.
Tigers3232
@Cuban MLB rules at the time were absolutely relevant. It was an overvthe counter supplement at the time. U say it as tho it was an illegal substance MLB happened to have yet to ban, which is absolutely not the case. A teenager playing high school sports at that time could buy that just as easily as they could have bought Flintstone Vitamins….
cuban1
Even so, it does go to show he was willing to take “supplements” to build muscle, it wasnt as cut and dry as “eating 30 pounds of meat every day and working out and bench pressing” as he later said. He also said that the working out started in 1995 when he was going through a divorce, which kind of throws his timeline out of whack considering he hit 39 HRs in the strike shortened year of 94 when he had previously a combined 53 in the 3 years prior. Im no math expert, but somethings not adding up.
Tigers3232
@Cuban he was a professional athlete, they train regularly and take supplements. Andro at the time was 100% legal and 100% ok to take for MLB players. Whether he did PEDs or not is purely speculation as MLB did not test. But as for the Andro it was 100% lawful and 100% compliant with MLB rules at the time.
GmanGoon
gbs42. I like your balanced and objective take.
Many commenters here hate, imply / infer and / or use language that might be considered slander hiding behind keyboards.
Image a World where evidence wasn’t necessary to cause accusations and action?
Scary thought.
I await, the hate
Dumpster Divin Theo
gbs the pearl clutcher
GmanGoon
Dumpster Divin Theo
Aww. That’s not very nice. I need a little cry now.
Dumpster Divin Theo
No reason to cry. Gunners are running away with it!
GmanGoon
DDT.
Re the Goons…
“It ain’t over till it’s over.” Well, you can’t argue with that. American baseball legend Yogi Berra first uttered the phrase about baseball’s 1973 National League pennant race.
BStrowman
Like Brady Anderson in Baltimore or Magic Johnson in LA…..it’s always a good idea to have the former star join the FO and be close friends w the owner! Works everytime!
Latino Heat
The same LA team who has been the best team the past 5+ years? Ya who would want that for their favorite team. They have led the league in wins and have a championship to show for it. That’s just terrible. What a bad take
paulslc
Dude what
It was obviously a comment about the lakers not dodgers
Latino Heat
Lakers also have a championship recently so what your point ?
BStrowman
The Lakers didn’t win a thing when Magic Johnson was in their FO.
Tigers3232
Magic was part owner from 1994-2010. He was in front office in some capacity for numerous Lakers Championships.
desertball
One of the most feared hitters of the era. Talk steroids all you want but the dude could flat out rake
Dumpster Divin Theo
Sammy says hi
❤️ MuteButton
I understand wanting his opinion, but they’ve been doing fine without him making any decisions. Hopefully that’s the way it will continue
Latino Heat
I love it. Growing up I played a video game where my older bros picked Jeff Bagwell for me when we played a home run derby and that’s what got my Astros addiction started. 30+ years later it’s still as strong as ever. Baggy you are one of the greatest players of this franchise sorry you never got a ring
olmtiant
Larry Anderson… enough said….
Latino Heat
Will Yordan Alvarez for Josh fields turn into Larry Anderson 2.0?
Dunk Dunkington
Already has,
olmtiant
Did get a little karma when we got Tek and Derek Lowe for heathcliff slocumb from Seattle….
Bart Harley Jarvis
No one would argue it was an massively one-sided trade. That said, Larry Andersen has been a beloved tv and radio announcer for the Phillies for 25 years, and he’s joked more times than you can count about the trade.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Larry Anderson (1974-1977)
baseball-reference.com/players/a/anderla01.shtml
Latino Heat
You posted the wrong Larry Anderson
baseball-reference.com/players/a/anderla02.shtml
Bart Harley Jarvis
Correct. Larry Anderson keeps being incorrectly cited as being traded for Jeff Bagwell. Larry Andersen was traded for Jeff Bagwell.
BuyBuyMets
But Larry Anderson pitched one more career shutout than Larry Andersen
Bart Harley Jarvis
Which is impressive if you consider he gave up 17 earned runs in the other 21.1 innings he pitched in 1975.
baseballteam
Should have some great advice on growing ugly beards and injecting PEDs.
gbs42
That’s three steroid accusations with no evidence. How many will this comment section have?
cuban1
The real question is how many times are you going to white knight for the guy in a comment section before you realize that Bagwell himself admitted to using andro before the league banned it.
olmtiant
Probably could be said for every MLB team.. proven or found in the court of public opinion… at least one player…
Tigers3232
“Before the league banned it” being the key words. It was an over the counter supplement at the time and legal to use by all players.
gbs42
cuban1,
youtube.com/watch?v=-IOMNUayJjI
RodBecksBurnerAccount
And you used to be able to buy andro at GNC. What’s your point? It wasn’t illegal at the time.
DCartrow
I’ll have you know I have evidence. I knew his supplier, a registered nurse name Anna Bolic and like Bagwell’s regimen, she was stacked, baby!!
More people in here should be like Bagwell and be able to take a little needling.
Dumpster Divin Theo
I see what you did there needling
Bart Harley Jarvis
But the ugly beard accusation would hold up in a court of law.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
@baseball team. I will admit that thing on his chin looks awful. I myself look like a Viking but I cannot figure out what Bagwell is trying to do with his whiskers. The short goatee he had years ago looks way better than that. I remember he grew it fairly long once and it looked cool but I’m at a loss for the current state of whatever that thing he has now is…
astros_fan_84
Personally, I liked what Click was doing. He consistently traded from the fringes of the 40 man without touching the farm. Honestly, all of his moves look good. Having said that, I understand personality conflicts and sometimes change is necessary.
Honestly, if I was in Click’s place, I would have been screaming at Dusty about the lineups too, but winning proved Baker correct. I hope Bagwell makes the franchise better. As long as the farms keeps churning out quality impact players and the front office avoids albatross contacts, I think the organization will continue to be elite.
CravenMoorehead
One of my favorite players growing up. Sad that he never got a ring along with Biggio.
Dumpster Divin Theo
No trash cans back then weren’t invented
Bart Harley Jarvis
I believe they were referrals to back then as ‘rubbish bins’.
Bart Harley Jarvis
*referred
cardsfanboy
Can I say WOW
CravenMoorehead
As long as you say it in a Christopher Walken voice 🙂 🙂 🙂
Bart Harley Jarvis
Along with more cowbell.
CravenMoorehead
“MOAH KOW BELL”
utah cornelius
Oh brother. Another wow idiot.
Latino Heat
If you missed my post earlier just mute them it leads to a better experience on here
baseballteam
I believe with certainty that George Washington existed although I never saw him. I believe with certainty Bagwell used PEDs without having seen him.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Special executive assistant for gummies?
Sliderwitcheese
Good hire. He can advise them how to take steroids and inflate their way to the hall of fame.