Adam Engel suffered a hamstring injury during Thursday’s Cactus League game, putting his availability for the Padres’ Opening Day roster in severe jeopardy. “Hamstrings can be a little bit [tricky] so we’ll see how he progresses, but…I think it’d be tough for him to make another game here in Spring Training,” Padres manager Bob Melvin told reporters, including Jeff Sanders of the San Diego Union-Tribune.
Engel’s progress was already slowed by a calf strain earlier in camp, and the outfielder has played in only six Spring Training games. Between this lack of ramp-up period and the time it’ll take for Engel to recover from his current hamstring issue, a stint on the 10-day injured list certainly looks probable for Engel at the beginning of the season.
The Padres signed Engel to a one-year deal this winter with an eye towards using the veteran as a fourth outfielder, given Engel’s strong track record as a defender. With Fernando Tatis Jr. still having to serve 20 games left on his PED suspension, Engel was tapped for a good amount of playing time in April, but it is now possible Tatis might get back onto the field before Engel does, depending on the severity of the hamstring issue.
In better news for San Diego’s outfield, Juan Soto might be able to avoid the IL in the wake of the mild oblique strain that sidelined him last weekend. The Padres have naturally been very careful with Soto, but he was making some light throws in the outfield and taking dry swings yesterday, in a positive step this early in his recovery process from any kind of oblique problem.
With some cautious optimism about Soto and now some doubt over Engel, it still seems as though the Padres will have at least one outfield job available on the Opening Day roster. Jose Azocar and Brandon Dixon are the internal choices, and perhaps more than one of David Dahl, Tim Lopes, and Rougned Odor could have their minor league contracts selected to the roster. To help his chances of making the team, Odor recently saw some action in left field, despite never playing in the outfield before during his pro career.
Like Soto, Austin Nola might also be in the Opening Day lineup despite an ominous late-spring setback, as Nola was hit in the face by a Michael Fulmer pitch on Sunday and suffered a fractured nose and three stitches. While that diagnosis isn’t exactly good, Nola was “so glad it’s what it is and not the eyes, a concussion or any of that stuff,” he told MLB.com’s AJ Cassavell. The catcher might now even get back into game action before Spring Training is over, as Nola caught Seth Lugo’s bullpen session yesterday.
Xander Bogaerts received a cortisone shot in his left wrist, and isn’t expected to play again until Sunday. As Melvin told Sanders and company, “there’s no concern, [Bogaerts] has one of these a spring,” due to periodic soreness in his wrist. The prized signing of San Diego’s offseason, Bogaerts is in no danger of missing his first Opening Day in a Padres uniform.
One player guaranteed to miss some time is Joe Musgrove, who suffered an unfortunate fluke injury in late February when a weight-room accident resulted in a broken left big toe. The Padres ace’s recovery timeline has become more clear as he has been rehabbing the injury, and Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune writes (via Twitter) that Musgrove will hit another important checkpoint when he pitches in a minor league spring game on Monday.
The right-hander will miss relatively little time, as Acee notes that Musgrove is being tentatively scheduled to make his season debut on either April 11 or April 16. However, the Padres still face a rotation crunch with Musgrove sidelined and Yu Darvish still properly ramping up after his usual spring routine was interrupted by the World Baseball Classic. As a result, San Diego might deploy a six-man rotation to help manage arms during an unusually busy early schedule — the Padres play games on 24 of the first 25 days of the new season. Blake Snell, Nick Martinez, Michael Wacha, Jay Groome, Lugo, and Darvish would comprise the rotation until Musgrove’s return could shuffle things up.
AdmiralPatton
I think you meant Jose Azocar instead of Oscar Azocar
Marlins_Fan
Acquiring Juan So-so (Juan Soto) was a terrible move and it would be even more terrible to sign him to a long term contract.
amk1920
They mortgaged their future for him. They will try to sign him but Boras is taking that man to free agency.
Longtimecoming
Could be but he just bought a house on Coronado island. Based on real estate prices they’re probably in the 4-5 million range. Yeah he can afford to let it set empty if he chooses in 2 years but it could also be that he likes: (1) SD weather; (2) Manny; (3) Tatis; (4) others; a winning team; (5) maybe adding an ace in Nola (come on, why would he not want to pitch to his brother?).
Just saying, a lot of factors for staying – whether or not you think it’s a good or bad thing isn’t really the point. It’s his call – not Borass (I know there is an extra ‘s’).
Marlins_Fan
Him buying a house means nothing and it could be resold extremely easily and he could also be pranking SD fans by doing it (huge respect for that if that’s what he’s doing- and that probably IS what he’s doing. First they got played by MIKE in the trade, now they’re getting played by So-so himself).
Longtimecoming
Yeah there is always a quick easy market for $5 million houses in Coronado.
People lining up to drop cash for them.
It means nothing? Really, you know that? Maybe it does and maybe it doesn’t. I didn’t see it did – I said there are factors in place to suggest he likes it there.
You on the other hand, can see the future and read minds! You are amazing.
outinleftfield
$10 million. A few doors down from Machado.
outinleftfield
So in your world players buy a house that costs more than half of their annual salary to prank the fans they will be playing in front of for the next 2 years?
Marlins_Fan
Boras is playing chess and is having Juan So-so prank SD fans by buying a “house”.
Marlins_Fan
All part of the contract prank that’s about to be played on SD fans and their GM who grew up rich (of course).
VegasSDfan
Let’s see what happens.. his numbers in 2023 will determine his value. I would bank on a huge season and so will he.
Scream_name
@ marlins fan you have to be joking. Are we laughing at you or with you?
outinleftfield
You were bounced on your head multiple times as a child, right? That is the only explanation for your comments. Even someone whos is only here to be a troll occasionally makes intelligent comments.
CrikesAlready
G Avenue area in Coronado… $2.2M for a 1,000 square foot house probably 100 years old. People are still falling over each other to get into a house on Coronado.
Soto buying there means he’s got a good investment going.
Marlins_Fan
A good investment plus pranking SD fans and making even bigger fools out of them.
Scream_name
@marlins fan’s takes are like a bad Dramedy that had people leaving the theater before it was half way through. Unbelievable.
websoulsurfer
1st Ave and F. In November he bought the empty lot that is literally next door to Machado and is having the home built for him.
He may have also bought a smaller home nearby, but the one everyone is talking about is the huge custom home on the bay. Last time I drove by in January it was still under construction. You really can’t miss it.
The only comparable home in Coronado has been on the market since November and recently dropped their price.
websoulsurfer
I don’t know if anyone can make a bigger fool of themselves than you are with these comments about Soto.
SanDiegoSuperDissapointingPadres
Hahaha….that’s like commenting on someone else’s chick!
She’s kinda hot, I mean I would date her but I wouldn’t marry her.
Bro, Soto is gonna smash this year!
Marlins_Fan
Juan So-so posted a .236 BA and .778 OPS after the trade, pathetic. No matter how well he does this year (he won’t be a superstar, and he will never again be anywhere close to as good as his best performance with the Nationals), the trade was a terrible one. Mike Rizzo is laughing his ass off.
falconsball1993
He’s 23. Relax
rundmc1981
Seriously though, 149 OPS+ despite .236 AVG. Don’t see that too often.
Jung Like My Daddy
Batting average huh?
Chose that instead of OPS+ which was 130 or 30% better than league average? Yeah I’m sure the Padres are fine with 2 years of him being 30% or higher than league average offense.
Marlins_Fan
It was a 130 OPS+ with the Padres and it was a terrible, idiotic trade no matter how you cut it. They gave up the future for a rental of Juan effin Soto (Juan So-so). Stupid, stupid.
pinstripes17
Rental? He’s under contract for two more years, buddy. Hence why he cost so much to acquire.
rundmc1981
His OPS+ was 149 total including his 159 with WSH. It happened.
Guy was 49% better than average hitting at a .236 clip – or about 50 pts lower than his career mark. I guess you perform from Day 1 as well. Giving a lot of credit to Gore, Abrams, Hassell III, Wood (who looks like the stud).
James Midway
They got him for two and a half years. He also did really well in the post season. Padres didn’t get robbed. They gave up guys that are supposed to be good. We all know that prospects are a gamble.
I really liked Hassell, I think he can take and I can see him being an every day big leaguer, but he wasn’t going to help right now.
Marlins_Fan
MIKE is laughing his ass off about the trade to this day and Trea also made comments about it. Trea has no respect for SOCAL baseball and who can blame him.
websoulsurfer
Jealous much? Wishing that the Marlins had even one guy that could then up the kind of 5.6 WAR season that Soto in a down season for him?
baseball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2022.shtml#player…::13
Do you usually judge players on what they did in 2 months? If so, that explains a lot about your lack of knowledge of baseball.
149 OPS+, 8th best batter in baseball. Top 10 is a superstar and that is what Soto was in 2022. 130 OPS+ with the Padres. Top 30 in baseball. Top 30 is a superstar.
Soto was a superstar before 2022. He was in 2022. He will be a superstar in 2023.
Prospects, even top ones are suspects. None of those guys have done anything in the majors. 20% of top 100 prospects become league average players. That is a 2.0 WAR. Less than 1 in 20 top 100 prospects ever put up a season of 4.0 WAR or more.
Only 3 of those prospects the Padres traded away were or became top 100. Abrams, Wood, and Hassell. So do the math and tell us what the chances are of even one of them putting up a season as good Soto did last season.
Sometimes jealousy makes people say unbelievably uninformed things.
websoulsurfer
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websoulsurfer
Yes. Yes you are.
outinleftfield
Says a guy that the team he roots for hasn’t had a winning season in his lifetime.
I doubt Rizzo is laughing about the 100 loss team he has put together.
SportsFan0000
Padres really got “HOSED” on the Soto deal.
In a few years, Padres fans can watch their farm system players lift the Nationals back into the playoffs and the World Series,
while the Padres team is anchored down with aging, over price veterans with virtually untradeable contracts.
James Midway
If the Padres get a ring I’m sure they would be fine with that
Marlins_Fan
They won’t.
Longtimecoming
Hey Marlins, what are the power ball numbers for the next draw? Your abilities to know the future might as well be profitable.
James Midway
Or you know they could be a club that Derek Jeter and Donny Baseball wanted to get as far as possible away from.
outinleftfield
I really hate pronouncements like that so even though they are not my team, let’s compare performance and projections
In the first 2 months the Padres got 1.8 WAR from Soto. His total for the season was 5.6 WAR
The Nationals got 0.0 WAR from Abrams and Gore
The 2023 projections for Soto are between 6.6 and 7.2 WAR.
The projections for Gore and Abrams combined is between 1.8 – 2.2 WAR
Soto will likely be expected to put up similar numbers in 2024, so 6.6-7.2 WAR.
Of the prospects the Padres traded to the Nationals, only Abrams and Gore are expected to spend the 2024 season in the majors. Let’s be generous and project they double their combined 2023 production and produce to 3.6-4.4 WAR. Its rare to see that happen with 3rd year players, but let’s do it anyway.
To be further generous lets use the projections for Soto at the low end of the range and the projections for Abrams and Gore at the high end of the range.
What does that give us before Soto is a FA?
Padres – 1.8 + 6.6 + 6.6 = 15 WAR
Nationals – 0.0 – 2.2 – 4.4 = 6.6 WAR
So with past production and projections the Padres will be 8.4 WAR ahead when Soto becomes a FA after the 2024 season. If all Soto does the next 2 seasons is repeat the 5.6 WAR his 2022 season, the Padres will still be far ahead at that point.
Now here is some stark reality. Top 100 prospects don’t usually become star players. 20% ever become average players in the majors. 3 of every 100 ever put up a single season of 4.0 WAR or higher in their careers.
Out of those players the Padres sent to the Nationals maybe one becomes a major league regular. There is a high probability that none of them become stars that put up 4.0+ WAR seasons. In a full season, Soto has never produced less than 5.0 WAR.
If the Padres can get to the WS in the next 2 seasons they will consider Soto a bargain.
Marlins_Fan
Juan So-so will post 5 WAR or worse this season- Count On It.
websoulsurfer
What we can count on is you not knowing what you are talking about.
YourDreamGM
I love the Juan So-so. Also glad to see the Marlins fan base has doubled.
websoulsurfer
ROTFLMFAO. So-so? Have you ever even watched the game? In a down year Soto was the 8th best hitter in baseball. Over his career he is top 5.
The Padres are going to sign him long term and be mighty happy to have a top 5 hitter in baseball.
padrepapi
On baseball-referance you can compare a player to others in the history of the game up to the same age. Here is how Soto compares to every other player up to age 23:
baseball-reference.com/leaders/leaders_23_bat_care…
Some spoilers in case stats aren’t your thing:
– 10th in ops at .950 (Trout 9th at .956)
– 4th in obp .424!
– 8th in hr’s at 125
– 8th in ops+ at 157
– 1st in walks with 507
– 5th in adjusted batting wins with 19.7
Lots of categories he is in the top 10 in the history of the sport through players age 23 seasons.
I wonder if the hatred towards him has anything to do with the .306/.443/.554 in 341 PA’s he has teed off of the Marlins? Just be glad he’s out of the NL East.
Marlins_Fan
PS Trea should be a MARLIN. It’s his hometown team and I’m sure he wishes he played for them.
Longtimecoming
Hey bonehead you do realize he was just a free agent and he could have picked any team that he wanted, right?
“Hey, I’m trea turner and I wish I could play SS for the Marlins, I could even play 2B.”
What, I can come and play, ok, I’ll be there. Don’t worry about the money because I just want to play for the Marlins.”
What a tool.
outinleftfield
Soto is from Santo Domingo in the DR. He lives in Coronado, CA now after living the last 2 years full time in the DC area.
His home in the DC area was a modest place and its on the market now for $1.1 million. realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/4793-William…
realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/juan-soto-s…
The place he had custom built in Coronado for $10 million is not a “modest” home by any stretch of the imagination. Its mansion that, like Machado’s new house, backs up to San Diego bay with a view of downtown. Its not the kind of investment you make in a faltering real estate market with rising interest rates if you are expecting to be moving in 2 years.
Marlins_Fan
Just adds to the prank on SD fans, then. Even smarter move by Boras (it’s really Boras doing it).
outinleftfield
Ok, boneheaded comment from me. I thought you said Soto.
Turner and his wife live in Palm Beach Gardens. About 80 miles north of Miami. About the same distance from my home in Orange County to the Padres ballpark in San Diego.
SportsFan0000
You can use stats to prove and disprove any point or argument.
But, if you watch the games closely then you know that Soto is not a clutch player. Soto was not a leader for SD. Soto choked in the pennant race and the playoffs in ’22.
When the Padres needed a clutch hit with men on base in ’22 in the pennant race and the playoffs, more often than not, Soto was AWOL taking fastballs right in the zone, looking for walks(over rated stat), passing the buck to the hitters further down the batting order, not delivering the clutch extra base hit or home run when it was needed.
Hard pass on Soto for a long term deal!
Marlins_Fan
Agreed.
outinleftfield
Not sure what you are talking about. Soto had the exact same batting average in the post season that he did in the regular season for the Padres.
His batting average, SLG%, and OPS+ with men on base was higher in the post season than in the regular season. What didn’t go up was his BB%. That actually went down nearly 30 points.
His batting average was higher with men on base than his season averages.
The bottom line is Soto did the exact opposite of what you are trying to claim and the stats are clear.
I am always amazed how some people like you can get things so completely wrong. How they can refuse to even look at the stats to see what actually happened.
SportsFan0000
Same thing I have been saying on Soto who hit only .230+ with only 8 home runs after the trade to the Padres. Soto was NOT CLUTCH in the pennant race and the playoffs in ’22. If Soto produces, then the Padres probably make the World Series in ’22 and, perhaps., win it.
The Padres gave away 5 top young prospects (plus 1 veteran) who were the core for long term contention in the very competitive NL West including top rated SS CJ Abrams, CF/OF Robert Hassell III ( plus MacKenzie Gore, James Wood and Jarlin Susana).
Unless the Padres win a World Series with Soto, then they got “hosed” on that deal with the Nats.
And Soto’s agent Boras will not allow Soto to sign and extension.
He will put Soto on the auction block.
The Padres don’t have unlimited funds. I can’t see the Padres resigning Soto.
If the Padres want to throw around “stupid money”, then they should just sign Ohtani who brings much more to the table than Soto.
Best move would be to trade Soto at the end of the ’23 season and get back similar top young talent that they gave up to get Soto.
Soto is vastly over rated, in my opinion.
Unless Soto has a few “monster years” in ’23 and ’24, then many teams will “hard pass on Soto” for 400M-500M.
Marlins_Fan
Exactly.
Rsox
I could see Dahl and Odor making the roster out of the gate but not sure how long either might stick
DonOsbourne
But does Odor really add any value as a left fielder? Sometimes I think the whole positional versatility thing gets ran into the ground. I get that IF you HAD to have someone it helps to have multi-positional experience, but these guys are professional athletes who have been playing baseball their entire lives. If you absolutely had to have someone, you could ask anyone on the roster to stand in LF for nine innings and they probably wouldn’t die out there.
Rsox
No but since Carpenter and Cronenworth can also play the OF he doesn’t have to. Odor offers LH pop at 2B or DH if the other two are playing 1B/OF. Again he may make the team initially but it doesn’t mean he’ll stick
DonOsbourne
Right. I’m referring to the part of the article that says they tried him in left.
Saint Nick
Man the Pads are a walking M.A.S.H. unit.
StudWinfield
Yankees: “Hold both my beers.”
DarkSide830
“Pathetic” – the entire NL East
kellin
MLB.COM had an article up listing the top ten starting lineups and they put the Padres as 2nd with the Astros in 1st. The Yankees are 7th.
Candlestoked
Fourth place this year and I’ll be happy.
DarkSide830
Really happy to see Groome finally looking to be putting it all together.
Logistics Guy
Same Adam Engel like he was with Chicago White Sox. Half or 3/4 of
season on DL and play maybe maybe 90-100 games
Candlestoked
Er…Check your math, Logistics Guy!
Dennis Boyd
Adam Engel seems like an old, hurt Azocar. I hope they don’t waste too much time with Engel. He’s already been hurt twice this spring training. I’d rather give Dahl another chance
websoulsurfer
When healthy Engel is a great defensive player. Padres had really only been counting on him until Tatis returns on the 20th of April.
wallabeechamp
Pobres pitching is going to be the reason whatever prospects they have left will be shipped out in another ‘blockbuster’ trade.
Lineup will mash. Going to have to score about 8 runs a game with Hader being near perfect to reach the unrealistic expectations of their starved for respect fan base.
mrpadre19
Hey Marlins_fan_2023:
Go ahead and tell us right now which prospects the Padres traded away for Soto are they going to regret trading?
Also,be sure to come back in 6 months to take the beating for saying Soto isn’t going to ever be good again.