8:02PM: Senga is day-to-day with tendinitis at the base of his index finger, the Mets announced.
5:41PM: Kodai Senga was supposed to make a Spring Training start for the Mets today, but Senga was scratched due to discomfort at the base of his right index finger. Senga unfortunately isn’t the only Mets pitcher dealing with injury, as “a low-grade hamstring strain” has forced reliever Brooks Raley to be removed from the Team USA roster at the World Baseball Classic. (Aaron Loup will take Raley’s place in the tournament.)
Mets manager Buck Showalter told reporters (including Newsday’s Tim Healey and MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo) that both Senga and Raley should still be able to be part of New York’s roster on Opening Day. In regards to Senga, Showalter said the scratch was precautionary, and that “probably during the season, [Senga] would have pitched.”
As a reliever, Raley doesn’t need to rebuild as much arm strength in order to get back to full readiness. Assuming his hamstring problem doesn’t linger, the left-hander might not require much ramp-up time to prepare for game action in the Mets’ remaining Grapefruit League schedule, or for the start of the regular sesason.
The Mets acquired Raley in a trade with the Rays back in December. With Joely Rodriguez and Chasen Shreve departing in free agency, Raley was projected to be the top left-hander in the Mets bullpen, and perhaps even the only left-hander depending on how the club settles on its roster. While the Amazins were comfortable with carrying only one southpaw (Rodriguez) in the pen for large portions of the 2022 season, having an all-righty relief corps probably isn’t preferable. Since Joey Lucchesi is being stretched out as a starter, Raley’s injury might create an opportunity for minor league signing T.J. McFarland to break camp if Raley does indeed end up need more time to recover.
Senga will undergo imaging and tests on his hand, as the Mets will certainly take every precaution even if it seems as though Senga might have nothing more than a day-to-day setback. Until the imaging results are known, however, the situation adds some level of concern over Senga’s highly-anticipated debut season in Major League Baseball.
Senga signed a five-year, $75MM contract with New York in December, as the 30-year-old’s strong track record in Nippon Professional Baseball generated plenty of interest in his services amongst MLB teams. The New York Post’s Jon Heyman reported last month that the Mets did have some health-related questions about Senga prior to the agreement, though the exact nature of those concerns (and whether or not there’s any relation to Senga’s current finger problem) isn’t known.
Jose Quintana has already been sidelined with a stress fracture in his rib, so between Quintana’s injury and now this uncertainty over Senga, the Mets could potentially have two holes to fill in their rotation behind Max Scherzer, Justin Verlander, and Carlos Carrasco. David Peterson had a scare of his own after he was hit in the foot by a comebacker earlier this spring, but Peterson suffered only a contusion and threw a live batting practice session on Thursday, so the southpaw should still be in line to take Quintana’s place. If Senga also has to miss time, Tylor Megill is likely the next choice up on the rotation depth chart.
One possible obstacle to Senga’s readiness could be his lack of spring action to date, as he has pitched in only one game thus far. The Mets were slowly bringing Senga into game action in order to better acclimate the right-hander to his new league, as Senga continues to adjust to the larger baseballs and steeper mounds used in MLB, as opposed to what Senga was used to in Japan.
Meanwhile, Quintana’s recovery timeline is yet to be determined, with Showalter telling Healey and other reporters that “they got a couple other people to look at some things and try to decide the best mode of operation which to go, as soon as we know exactly what we’re dealing with.”
13Morgs13
Mets this year…the DL squad
Yankee Clipper
Yankees are doing their best to dethrone them.
Fever Pitch Guy
Clip – Red Sox aren’t far behind. This is why I always laugh when people say pitchers who are over 30 are a major health risk. These days it doesn’t matter what the age, ALL pitchers are at risk of injury.
Braves Butt-Head
Well with the pitch clock you’re going to see more pitchers on the IL than usual especially later in the season.
saratoga72
True. Age really isn’t the issue. I pitcher is safe.
G-Force
And now with the pitch clock, serious injuries to pitchers will compound. Injuries of the nagging variety will also see an increase. Or so I think.
Mac Attack
Doubtful
JoeBrady
Depending on Rodon, the NYY could be way ahead of the Mets. Montas was a rough loss, 3-4 marginal losses add up with Bader, etc., but Rodon would be a real issue, if it is a real issue.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Why would Bader missing potentially three weeks equal three less wins? Even Aaron Judge is not worth that many WAR. Montas was a mixed bag last season and I wouldn’t peg him for better than 2.5 fWar this season even if fully healthy.
Brandon1194
war isn’t literal
phenomenalajs
WAR! What is good for? Absolutely nothing!
mj-2
Very impressed the Mets already broke Senga before even stepping on a mound for a spring game.
Back in my day it took at least 1 week into April before they started breaking all their pitchers.
Impressive progress
Roll
it actually doesnt surprise me about Senga, personally i would have rather put that money into bassitt. The mets do not have any luck with players from the far east, i cant remember any of them starting with the Mets and being a true game changer outside of one or two highlight reel spots for the Mets. Maybe Ryoto Igarashi was the best and that saying something, I remember when the mets got Kaz Matsui who was supposed to be little godzilla at short and moved a top prospect to 2nd to accomodate him. Then ended up having to switch him and never really did anything with the bat either.
I could be wrong but in general I cant think of a far east player acquired has at best been league average but mostly were less than replacement players.
raisinsss
Dae Sung Koo was slightly better than average in 2005. And had one of the most memorable doubles/runs scored in Mets history.
But yeah… haven’t had much luck. I don’t think that’s a reason to stop looking/trying.
phenomenalajs
I believe I read he’s still pitching, at least part time, in Australia at the age of 53.
Roll
@raisins
i agree dont stop looking but when you are pushing for the World Series and one of the odds on favorite do go out and try to sign a Carlos Correa or do you hope a Baty will be the next big thing.
You had Bassitt who is a known entity that can handle NY Media and lets face it was probably the best starter on the mets last year with all the injuries. He had cya votes before coming to the mets and probably one of the few pitchers that averages 6+. Do you want to go out and sign someone that has never pitched in mlb and throw him behind 2 aged pitchers and never pitched on a 5 day rotation. I get the deal but Bassitt would have been better at 2/3. If you wanted senga and push him to 4th that would be ideal. In all reality the mets need a number 2 or number 3 pitcher to push the rest down and keep a good depth is my thoughts.
Also looking at Koos stats and game log he was the definition of a loogy and was literally league average especially as a reliever. But there was one pitcher i dont remember at all Jae Weong Seo who was a starter and actually fared well as a young mets pitcher. So i may eat crow on this.
G-Force
Indeed
User 401527550
Funny coming from a fan with their best player out for at minimum half a season.
VonPurpleHayes
@Mets6986 You can argue Trea Turner is now the Phillies best player.
Robrock30
A new Season, new players and the story remains the same Mets players are once again dropping like flies. Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose. LOL
VonPurpleHayes
Geez. The Mets depth is being tested early. Better now than later.
avenger65
It’s a good thing the Mets signed every FA the Padres didn’t get to first.
User 401527550
I think you got that backwards.
RunDMC
Few teams have the Mets depth, said last week. And they were referring to Lucchesi, amongst others. $300M doesn’t buy you what it used to.
User 401527550
Luchesi is like number ten in line. Why you using him as an example. The Braves won’t be over excited to see Peterson and Megill.
Roll
Verlander Scherzer Senga Carrasco Quintana Peterson Megill ?? ?? Luchessi?
im curious who you have as 8 and 9? You moving position players to pitch maybe because next in line is butto and from the sound of it he make luchessi look like kershaw. and probably be better off using position players to pitch.
VonPurpleHayes
Yea. Roll has the order right. If the season started today, Luchesi likely makes the rotation due to the Senga and Quintana injuries.
User 401527550
Nope. Peterson and Megill will be their 4th and fifth starters. Hernandez would be next Luchesi or Butto would be ninth in line.
User 401527550
Hernandez and Butto
raisinsss
I’d put Lucchesi a little higher than most. He had a tremendous short stretch right before the injury when he’d stopped tipping his pitches. Assuming healthy, I wouldn’t write him off.
VonPurpleHayes
@Mets6986 Roll had Peterson and Megill listed above Luchesi.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Plus their 2 ace pitchers are 39 and 40 years old.
Longtimecoming
Those 2 guys have been 2 of the most wanted SP’s of there generation on the upside but yeah, that age thing eventually catches up to everyone without any exception. Some maybe delay longer and maybe these 2 can but Father Time is undefeated!
User 401527550
That had a combined ERA under 2 last year. Yes it really sucks having them pitching for us.
VonPurpleHayes
Scherzer missed significant time last year. Verlander pitched in a 6-man rotation. No one is saying they suck, but they need to be treated a bit differently than a 30 year old pitcher. Luckily the Mets are so good that they can afford to coast for much of the regular season.
User 401527550
Zach Wheeler is 32 and missed just about the same time. The fact is most teams treat pitchers with kid gloves at every age now. I made the mistake of saying Brady was done every year because his age for the last ten years. I was obviously wrong. We are in an age where players are training and getting healthcare were we might not know what age someone is done. All I know is if two pitchers have a 1.75 and 2.24 ERA they are still very elite pitchers.
VonPurpleHayes
I agree, and I’m not saying Verlander and Scherzer are done. They’re phenomenal. And this Senga injury seems more about precaution than anything else. The Mets are playing for the playoffs. Missing the first few starts of the season is no big deal. Still, it’s fair to express concern. The Mets are not a young team.
dugmet
Buck said Senga most likely would have pitched through it if regular season. Riley’s injury might not be so bad.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
As usual i was right, waste of money
Buzz Killington
I was more right.
DarkSide830
Okay Nostradamus.
User 401527550
LOL because he missed a spring training game?
VonPurpleHayes
Senga is definitely going to miss out on All Star votes because he missed a few Spring Training starts that no one cared about.
User 3595123227
Discomfort at the base if his right index finger…….wth is the next reason these guys can’t do their job. These insane sounding injuries. Lol.
ChrisMonte
Or it’s just as simple as his hand not used to throwing a heavier baseball than he had previously used. Especially w/ throwing a splitter where you put more strain on the fingers
User 3595123227
Well if that really is the case the Mets wasted a lot of money. I was talking about how absurd the injury sounds. Like so many other injuries in baseball.
JoeBrady
It’s an injury to one of the fingers of his throwing hand. It’s like a sprinter hurting his big toe.
mlb1225
He probably could do his job and play through it, but not nearly as effectively. Plus in Spring Training, there’s zero reason for anyone to play through any injury.
User 3595123227
Lol
mlb1225
I mean, it’s true. Doesn’t sound major. If he absoutley had to play through it, he probably could. Players play through worse than a sore finger. But that kind of stuff is especially vital for a pitcher where a pitch’s movement can change by the slightest difference in finger placement. But it’s Spring. What reason would any player have to play through any soreness right now? It’s not September and the Mets are currently in a tight division race.
amk1920
Mets roster is nowhere near as good as you think for the highest payroll ever
VonPurpleHayes
It definitely doesn’t feel like the highest payroll ever roster, but it’s still a 90+ win roster. They can win with their pitching or their offense. They are solid defensively. They have depth. They have a lights-out closer with some decent bullpen options. It’s really all you can ask for. They are just missing some of that power. Outside of Alonso, they don’t have that terrifying slugger. Still, no roster is perfect. I wouldn’t bet against the Mets.
Roll
its hard to judge dollar for dollar because everything is super expensive. Who would have thought regular eggs would have been 6 and 7 dollars and dollar menus are now 2 and 3 bucks for same items.
I thought the Dodgers got to 300 or were close to it before that huge trade with the red sox so i wonder if with inflation it would be the same or more. Considering the Dodgers only won the world series recently i would have to say the big payroll didnt do it for them. Lets hope it does it for the mets though
baseballteam
At least it was not an oblique.
metsfan1992
Calm down. They will be fine. If this was deGrom everyone would be having a field day.
saratoga72
I always love to see expensive pitchers break down, especially before they contribute at all. Montas and Rodon with NYY. Senga with NYM. I hope they all pitch absolutely ZERO innings this year.
User 3595123227
Lol!
Ella B
72, if you hate baseball so much why are you here?
cwsOverhaul
Struck me that he doesn’t shed any tears for deep pocket teams getting burned, not so much a hatred of baseball.
raisinsss
And now they’ll NEVER win the Grapefruit League championship ;(
raisinsss
He prefers his own sense of righteousness to higher quality baseball.
Personally, I don’t get any enjoyment when any player on any team is injured. Maybe that’s just me though!
saratoga72
Huh? I love baseball. And why do you care why I’m here?
baseballteam
I guess it makes perfect sense to get scratched with a finger issue.
Old York
What’s the return policy on Japanese players? 30-days with receipt, unopened?
ChuckyNJ
Ballplayers are going down to injury every day in spring training — this one has the familiar refrain of LOLmets. As always, the NYC tabloids are the last to figure it out.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
LOLMets. Shouldn’t have bought him on wish.
MPrck
Well, most probably related to the different size in baseball, he”ll get over it. Trying hard to make a quick transition. It’ll help to keep his innings down this first year too.
JackStrawb
TOLD YA.
(I really did.)
In addition since durability, pitcher to pitcher, is a discrete event, we now await the crumbling fates of JV, at 40, Max, at 38, and Cookie, at 36 years of age. Ohboy. Hard to believe it was the rotation’s youngsters (at 30 and 34) who were the first to suffer.
—aside: Fans of noir and neo-noir who haven’t yet caught I Promised to Pay (1961–first released under the title of Payroll) will likely thrill to this cracking, brutal heist tale. Granted it was released a few years after the end of the classical film noir cycle, but it fits nicely into the genre. A poor man’s The Asphalt Jungle (1950—a film I admit I always enjoyed more than Kubrick’s icy The Killing, since I’m among friends, and not only for the presence of a young Marilyn Monroe), if you like, but no less well-written and -acted for that. Enjoy!
Robrock30
JackStrawb,
As always I am listening and you are also a film critic, who knew.
JackStrawb
@Robrock30 Hey, my friend! How are you??
heh–purely by accident. I had an injury many years ago and a friend dumped a half dozen film noir dvds (remember those?) on me to while away recovery. Incredible stuff—I still remember the titles, the year of original release, and the order I watched them: The Third Man (1949), Touch of Evil (1958), The Narrow Margin (1952 and not the execrable remake with Gene Hackman–one of his rare misses), Pickup on South Street (1953), Double Indemnity (1944), and Odd Man Out (1947).
Those and hundreds of other titles in the genre kept me (marginally) sane given what has been done to movies during the last decade. Are you a fan?
Robrock30
JackStrawb,
I am well been a pleasant winter but ready for Spring with baseball returning.
Not familiar with the genre or those films. I like the classics Casablanca, Citizen Kane, It’s a Wondeful Life. More recently I liked Top Gun Maverick, Phantom of the Opera those are the ones I take with me.
JackStrawb
@Robrock30 Very glad to hear it. Likewise—Opening Day and the trees filling out can’t come soon enough.
Those are great films you mention. I’ve heard such good things about Maverick that it’s at the top of my list. Fwiw, Casablanca and Citizen Kane have a lot in common with film noir and a lot of people include Kane in the genre. In fact Touch of Evil also happens to star Orson Welles (and Charlton Heston and Janet Leigh)
Longtimecoming
Jack- TCM shows a dedicated film noir movie every week. Those top shelf titles along with lesser known selections.
Doug
Hearing so much about the “ghost pitch” before he ever threw a pitch in MLB, and now Senga’s a “ghost” himself.
Attystephenadams
Mets haters got to hate. I’m amazed how many there are, along with the trolls.
Senga will be fine. Raley will be fine. Quintana will be fine. Some other guys will get injured, just like every other team, and they’ll be fine too.
This team has depth, and at the end of a long season, will be in the playoffs.
VonPurpleHayes
Quintana likely out for half the season. I agree there are a lot of haters, but some depth concerns are genuine.
saratoga72
Do you honestly think rooting against players or thinking they are overrated means we “hate” them? Apparently “hate” now means any form is dislike.
Terry B
Mets ain’t all that, seriously! They’ll implode as per SOP!