Mets closer Edwin Diaz underwent successful surgery to repair the patellar tendon in his right knee this afternoon, the team announced. The general timeline for recovery is around eight months, although in certain cases it’s possible to return in closer to six months. The team is not providing a specific timeline for Diaz’s return for the time being. He and doctors will formulate a rehab program next week. SNY’s Andy Martino first tweeted that Diaz was dealing with an injury to his patellar tendon.
Diaz closed out Wednesday’s World Baseball Classic quarterfinal matchup pitting his native Puerto Rico against the Dominican Republic with a scoreless frame. He was injured during the subsequent celebration. Diaz was helped to his feet by teammates and trainers before eventually being placed in a wheelchair and taken off the field.
It’s a devastating loss for the Mets and the worst fear of any team allowing a star player to participate in the World Baseball Classic. Diaz was baseball’s most dominant reliever in 2022, punching out a comical 50.2% of his opponents en route to a 1.31 ERA and 32 saves. It was his second sub-2.00 ERA of the past three seasons — the first came in just 25 2/3 frames during the shortened 2020 campaign — and a strong enough showing to convince the Mets to re-sign the 28-year-old fireballer on a record-setting five-year, $102MM deal just one day after the 2022 World Series concluded.
With Diaz sidelined for what could be the entire season, the Mets’ bullpen will instead lean on veterans like David Robertson and Adam Ottavino in the late innings. New York was already set to experience a good bit of turnover after seeing Seth Lugo, Trevor May, Mychal Givens, Joely Rodriguez and Trevor Williams depart as free agents. None from that bunch, of course, is as impactful a loss as that of Diaz. His absence will place a strain on the relief corps as a whole and perhaps spur the Mets to explore the market to bring in some bullpen help from outside the organization.
The free-agent market has been largely picked over, though former All-Star Zack Britton remains unsigned and the Mets (perhaps not coincidentally) attended a workout he held for teams earlier today, per Mike Puma of the New York Post. There aren’t any impact relievers known to be available via trade at the moment, though the Mets could always try to pry a high-end reliever away from a rebuilding club like the Pirates (David Bednar) or Royals (Scott Barlow). More likely, the Mets will ride veteran arms like Robertson and Ottavino through the season’s early stages and revisit the market for bullpen additions this summer, when the supply of available arms will be considerably larger.
From a payroll vantage point, it’s worth emphasizing that players who participate in the World Baseball Classic are covered under an insurance policy regardless of the severity of their injury, as Jorge Castillo of the L.A. Times reported back in February. Insurance, or lack thereof, is the reason that Clayton Kershaw did not participate in this year’s tournament, as his injury history was deemed too high-risk to be covered under the umbrella policy. Kershaw looked into taking out a personal insurance policy but ultimately announced that he would not be a part of Team USA.
The insurance coverage is a silver lining for the Mets, but given owner Steve Cohen’s apparently limitless appetite for spending, likely only a small one. The broader concern is the subtraction of one of baseball’s most talented pitchers from a roster that’s expected to vie for a title in one of baseball’s most competitive divisions. The Mets are joined by the 2021 World Series champion Braves and 2022 NL champion Phillies in the National League East, and they’ll now be without both Diaz and lefty Jose Quintana (out until at least July) for significant periods of time — quite likely the whole season for Diaz — as they look to capture their first division crown since 2015.
RyanD44
I hate to be Diaz that says it, but is this game over for the Mets?
RunDMC
They have more fight in them than this. Would be nice to see them reunite Zach Britton with Buck and have a dual closer role (eventually, with Britton) between Robertson/Britton with Raley/Ottavino as setup. Not Díaz, but could have potential.
Steve Nebraska
$20M down the drain. Cohen must be pissed. This team is so injury prone everyone is getting injured before the season even starts. More like $30M if you count Quintana. At least they just got about 6 missed WAR wins. The Mets are pretty good at that.
kingken67
It’s basically the baseball gods letting Cohen know there are no shortcuts to building a contending team and they weren’t amused by his attempts to buy one.
harrycarey
I wonder if there is an insurance policy on him, if so that company lost a bunch of money. Maybe the government, I mean the taxpayers can offer a bailout
teufelshunde4
Cohen carries insurance on his mega contracts, so he wont be hurting even if he had to pay full face value.
This is also the problem with trying to win by using FA only though too.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Bc homegrown players under big contracts don’t get injured?
avenger65
They never visited Steinbrenner (George).
raisinsss
From a payroll vantage point, it’s worth emphasizing that players who participate in the World Baseball Classic are covered under an insurance policy regardless of the severity of their injury, as Jorge Castillo of the L.A. Times reported back in February.
This is in the article.
padam
@tuefel – outside of Scherzer, Verlander, Marte, and Quintana, what other major FAs have they engaged?
Alonso, Nimmo, Alvarez, Baty, McNeil, Peterson, Megill, are all homegrown and they replaced DeGrom, Thor, Wheeler with FAs to balance it out. The rest are results of trades – Lindor, Diaz, Carasco.
Ella B
Steve, the way Cohen has spent, do you really think he’s pissed about the money? He’s pissed because their WS aspirations just went down the toilet. It’ll be interesting to see if he tries to add RP but you’re not getting Diaz production from anyone that may be “available”.
raisinsss
@padam
If someone comes to the argument believing they’re trying to win by using only FA, then you’re never going to convince them otherwise regardless of facts.
FA- verlander, Scherzer, senga, quintana, marte, Canha, Pham, narvaez, escobar, Robertson, curtiss, ottavino
Trade- raley, lindor, Carrasco, Diaz (rip), e Hernandez, Vogelbach, lucchesi
Hg (guys who rose through the Mets farm)- alonso, McNeil, megill, Peterson, drew smith, baty, vientos, nimmo, nido,
Seems like a good mix for a big market team. Ottomh
raregokus
It’s exactly this incredibly stupid line of thinking that suppresses player salaries for the benefit of owners. The game would be far better off if fewer fans thought like a GM.
raisinsss
@rare
Aggressive payrolls pace competition. Agree w you.
If anything, ppl should get mad at perennially non-competitive AAAA teams. Rockies are the most egregious example to me.
Personally I feel like the game would be better if fans attached to good teams, not local teams. To incentivize on field performance.
Carter86
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Carter86
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
.+0=.
Get the point?
coloredpaper
Not the As? I mean, at least the Rox have tried paying star homegrown players. The As just trade them away, and sometimes for little value lol
deweybelongsinthehall
The patella tendon is not a usual injury as it’s normally resilient enough to along with using a cadaver, is a common doner for ACL reconstruction procedures.
JoeBrady
They have roughly $186M in pure free agent acquisitions.
JoeBrady
FA- verlander, Scherzer, senga, quintana, marte, Canha, Pham, narvaez, escobar, Robertson, curtiss, ottavino
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That’s still a huge amount of money.
JoeBrady
So basically just root for rich teams? The league would die out in a couple of years. You’d see the Mets visiting Philly for a 10-game series. The Astros would be folded since they have only the 3rd highest payroll in their division. Cleveland would be gone despite finishing 1st. The Braves would be folded even though the continue to beat Philly and the NYMs every year.
raisinsss
Personally I feel like the game would be better if fans attached to good teams, not local teams. To incentivize on field performance.
Read again.
Blue Baron
@raisisss: What is the article?
Domingo111
Really an insurance doesn’t make sense for a billionaire.
An insurance basically is for covering worst case outcomes that happen rarely so they don’t ruin you if they happen.
However in the long run the insurance wins.
For example if there is a 10% risk of a 1 million dollar damage then 10 people have to pay 100k to make it work.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Domingo111 You’re talking about a multi-billionaire owner who also owns a successful hedge fund. Why wouldn’t he hedge his bets owning the Mets as well? Cohen is running a business, not gambling.
luckyh
They should let them remove it from the “cap” calc as well. If I’m an owner I’m ripped at this, although you have to think this injury was festering and bound to happen, if it happened that way.
Baseball_dude
Guess what, if teams don’t allow their star players that are getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars to play in the WBC, this wouldn’t have happened. No team should ever take that kind of chance on their investment
Fred McGriff HR
@Baseball dude
1/ Don’t jump up and down in a small confined space with other players surrounding you, I mean what could go wrong. Kendrys Morales said it doesn’t end well, and people haven’t learned.
2/ No one has been injured in 2023 at spring training games, absolutely no one at all.
VonPurpleHayes
@JoeBrady Both the Braves and Astros are in the top 10 in payroll. I get the joke, but in this example, all the teams are huge spenders.
JackStrawb
So… 3 real contributors out of 26.
JackStrawb
@Domingo111 You are correct, sir. Self-insurance is the way to go if you can afford any loss, which Cohen obviously can.
By self-insuring you are, in effect, creating your own insurance company, and pocketing the profits therefrom rather than paying those profits out for no reason at all.
deweybelongsinthehall
Baseball is a regional sport. The Red Sox and Giants gained many fans world wide due to multiple titles over the last twenty years, especially from fans who dislike the Yankees and Dodgers. Such though is gravy. Baseball cannot survive without local interest. Football is once a week and due to gambling has been the TV King for years. Baseball has 10 times the amount of home games and needs local interest.
Clepto_
No he doesnt need to read again. I am sure he is more baffled by your incredibly obtuse stupid take.
ctbronx7
Would the insurance payout on Diaz lower the Mets payroll amount for lux-tax purposes?
CleaverGreene
Do you think the gov’t shouldn’t bail out a bank failure. Are you a descendant of Herbert Hoover by any chance.?
Blue Baron
@Steve Nebraska: Actually, the Mets aren’t responsible for paying his salary while he is on the IR, and it’s $17.1 million this year, not $20 million. MLB pays salaries for players injured in the WBC.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
No, it would not.
iverbure
Totally agree. Always something in baseball that changes when a team thinks they’ve built the best team. Always said spending doesn’t equal winning.
If you got to pick the best 25 guys to build a team inevitably a year later you would end up with a couple guys who look like AAA players and still probably wouldn’t win the WS. Everyone thinks stacking their team like a video game is real life, it’s not. Draft and develop is the only way you can win.
White Sammy Sosa
Gross.
White Sammy Sosa
Sid bream was safe! Cheap ass Hrbeck….
BartoloHRball
Almost certainly not. While the $$ may or may not be partially covered, his contract and AAV amount is still part of the payroll, so it’d count towards the cap and lux-tax purposes.
RoadToRio
Gavin Lux?
HankAaronDidGreenies
Didn’t know the baseball gods were bootlicking ownership shills damn
bronxmac77
I’m a lifelong Yankees fan. I think your baseball gods are baseball clods. I have no stake in the Mets success. But if Cohen bought your team (if you have one), you’d be carrying him around on your shoulders. .
bronxmac77
Diaz isn’t a FA. He was acquired for the Met-of-the future, wasn’t he?
bronxmac77
Perhaps true. But how does that help the average fan, who just bought season tix to watch Diaz close games? For the Mets. Does the fan get insurance too?
bronxmac77
True that. As for Geo. Steinbrenner… Posada, Rivera, Jetes, Pettitte and Bernie Williams… all farm products.
bronxmac77
Bingo. Except a good GM tries to win. Winning is profitable. Owners like profits.
bronxmac77
I DO get mad at perennial AAAA teams. Like the Oakland AAAAs. If they want to live under 50 feet of crap, that’s their business. Shouldn’t be the problem of the Yanks, Mets, Padres, Cardinals, or their fans.
bronxmac77
I’d rather see the Mets play the Phillies 10 times than see them play Oakland, Tampa Bay, Miami or Colorado once.
bronxmac77
I’ve said this before. I wonder if these players would participate if their salaries were voided during the tournament, and if they subsequently got injured. In other words, if they assumed the risk ‘for their country.’
Fever Pitch Guy
DMC – I think it’s highly possible the Mets go with what they’ve got now, and then pick up a proven reliever mid-season. The Red Sox could have quite a few quality relievers to choose from if they drop out of the playoff race early.
JackStrawb
They’d be fools to do that with some relievers available for little but money, even if they do nothing more than pick up a couple of Drew Smith-caliber arms.
The least they should do is add Britton, assuming he’s healthy. They have two setup men for the closer role, ages 37 and 38. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to limp along w that arrangement for the four months until the deadline.
Fever Pitch Guy
Jack – That 37-year-old just put up a 2.06 ERA and 0.975 WHIP last year. Would you be disparaging him if he was 5 years younger?
And it’s 2023, your best relief pitchers aren’t necessarily closers and quite often having a shutdown 8th is more important than a shutdown 9th especially when facing the heart of the lineup.
Also I specifically said mid-season, not trade deadline. Teams will be willing to deal by early July if not sooner.
metman
it has too
MorriesWigs
It’s a huge blow, but I don’t think it’s game over. Robertson & Ottavino have late inning experience, and they have enough BP arms to make it work with a committee. Yankees, Phillies, dodgers, Astros don’t have lockdown closers & did pretty ok last season
RyanD44
Trade for his brother.
RunDMC
Now that would be epic, but CIN would demand quite a few of the players they’ve been deadset on not trading, including Ronny (shoutout to SNL’s Shy Ronnie — great skit).
If I were CIN, I’d ring them right up with a crazy proposal. Mediocre teams don’t need great closers — and to see his brother paired with him (when healthy) would be the PR this team needs.
MortDingle
Alexis is better, but why not give Cameron a look?
Larry Brown's crank
they tried to do that already, Ryan. it was a no go. Reds love their guy. hes about to break out.
phenomenalajs
She gets plenty of looks, but I’m not sure how good her fastballs and sliders are.
Ma4170
Agree, I’d love to see it. I’m a Met fan who’s still not sold on Mauricio and that he’s taken the steps w/ plate discipline he’ll need. I wouldn’t balk at including him in that deal because Diaz’s brother has nasty stuff.
avenger65
The Mets don’t have enough PR?
GeezerGeek
The red sox will give them Jansen for their top 4 prospects. The sox are not going anywhere this year anyway.
mrkinsm
65 win teams don’t need a closer.
metman
is he good?
metman
Reminds me of DONN Clendenin. Might become one, plays more.fills out.
Let us hope.
redsorbust
Hey RunDMC.
IMO Mets seem to be all in this year. I was thinking the same thing when I heard this bad news, trade for Alexis Diaz. Now knowing the Reds are not going to trade a young, cost controlled for years up and coming ace closer for a fair even steven trade. They will want an overpay. If so do you see Mets doing this? If so what players will be involved? Parada minor league catcher and Ramirez minor league outfielder for Diaz? Curious what Met fans think.
Larry Brown's crank
2 mid minor leaguers for A.Diaz? Diaz has 4 years of control AND Mets are over a barrel. thats a hard pass.
White Sammy Sosa
+ PR, I think was meant
White Sammy Sosa
I was scared as hell, when I heard Kershaw was gonna play for WBC, then I could sleep again when he was denied. Now Freddie Freeman is hurt playing for fn’ Canada! This is madness!!
BartoloHRball
All things considered…that’s probably what it would take (Parada + Ramirez for Diaz). It’s an overpay, but Diaz also has 4 years of control, so any trade is going to be painful. Parada is already shooting up in value, Ramirez is solid, and like you said the mets are over a barrel.
The Mets should give it a couple of months and see if they have the internal pieces to make it work. If not, they can go get a setup type guy and do closer by committee.
What could make it more interestings, what if Diaz takes a step back, would CIN risk trading him and having him bounce back? Hold onto him and miss a chance to get overpaid if Diaz regresses further?
Mets fans would like want to move Vientos or Maurico (the latter being preferred), but what else would it cost is the problem.
BartoloHRball
“2 mid minor leaguers for A. Diaz?”
Uhm…Paradas is the #2-#3 ranked catcher in all of the minor leagues. Alvarez (also a Met) is the #1 catcher. Paradas headlining a deal would be a solid get for CIN, it just depends what else they would want from the Mets.
What is crazy is the Mets traded PIT Endy Rodriguez who is another high-ceiling catcher, though it’s not clear if he’ll stick at catcher like Alvarez and Paradas. He was a much lesser known quantity back when he was traded, but he has shot through the PIT system and likely will come up this year.
Ma4170
Parada and ramirez is a massive overpay for Diaz. In fact, they shouldn’t include either. That’s when you just say thanks and move on.
bronxmac77
Actually, the Yanks’ ‘lockdown closer’ got tattoed.
On and off the field.
Milwaukee-2208
Mets offseason was all hype and overspending.
Their ENTIRE season rides on two 40 year old pitchers to be durable the entire year and into the players, and a guy who’s never pitched in MLB before. If everything went well, yeah the Mets are the team to beat in the east. Braves and the Phillies are still way better.
Milwaukee-2208
Into the playoffs*
BartoloHRball
The Mets should still make the playoffs, but they were already all-in, so now they are much more vulnerable unless they can get an internal guy to step up and/or trade for a setup/closer, which will be very pricey.
bronxmac77
I agree with all except for the ‘way’ part..
jt33nym
I honestly think Cohen has too much invested in this roster that he would not make upgrades if necessary. If not right now, at the deadline for sure. They do have some options with guys like Robertson and Ottavino
RunDMC
Upgrades? Outside of overpaying for guys – and FA Zach Britton – what upgrades are available? I don’t see them panicking and trading top prospects (Mauricio, Baty, Parada, etc.).
Troutahni
Better be sooner than later. You don’t want to be staring up at the Braves in the standings by too much come deadline time. The Phillies will have Bryce Harper back in the lineup by June. The Phillies also stayed in the race after falling way back before they fired Girardi. The Phillies are better this year making it more difficult for the Metd to withstand the loss of Diaz.
The Mets at least don’t have to face Atlanta and Philadelphia 17 times this season because of the new schedule which increases outside-division games.
You better hope the Mets beat up on teams like the Tigers and the Athletics.
metman
Gotta play Em’ on the field. PLAY BALL!
Monix
Fortunately for the Mets, the Phillies proved last year that you can finish in 3rd place, not deserve to be a playoff team, and then go to the World Series. Regular season is pretty meaningless now in Manfred’s tanking/expanded playoff MLB.
JackStrawb
Unfortunately, the Mets (for no sensible reason) were built once again to do well over most of a 162 game season, then falter in September and certainly in October.
It’s as if 2022 never happened, as far as the FO was concerned. They built the same team—expect similar results.
bronxmac77
Closers are overrated.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
He pitches one inning every other 2-3 games. The Mets will be fine.
rct
Losing a closer is game over? Let’s not overreact. In 2021, the Braves lost arguably their best player at the time, Acuña, and everyone was writing them off. Then they won the World Series. Not saying the Mets are going to win the World Series, but even with this they will be competing for a playoff spot. And if you get into the playoffs, anything can happen.
brodie-bruce
@rct in 06 1/2 of the cards lineup was on the il for most of the season and they were able to pull it off. yes losing your closer sucks especially one as electric as diaz, but it’s still early enough to recover and who know maybe some unknown mets farm hand steps up and dominates.
Lanidrac
To be fair, it was partly because Edmonds and Eckstein returned from the DL the last week of the regular season that the Cardinals were able to make that ’06 playoff run.
However, their absences and others almost torpedoed the regular season to where they almost missed making the playoffs in the first place and would’ve missed them had they played in any other division that year.
brodie-bruce
@landric that is very true it did seem like the last month of that season hou and stl was trying to help the other win the division.
sfes
Didn’t the wS Champ Cards win 83 games that year?
brodie-bruce
@sfes it was either 82 or 83, i do know we only played 161 games that year and stumbled into the playoffs
LonnieB
Mets are not the Braves. History has proven Braves can turn crap into gold and the Mets could turn gold into crap.
thecrown24
LonnieB would you care to elaborate?
Acuña Matata
@rct That had more to do with AA playing 3D Tetris.
citizen
braves never really had a closer in the 90s until wholers.
ask them.
Lanidrac
The Braves also failed to win the World Series in the ’90s until 1995, the year Wohlers became their closer., despite making a much less crowded playoffs each year from 1991-93.
Fred McGriff HR
Landirac
I agree, that’s when making the play-offs was legitimate, not so much now for 2nd and 3rd wildcards and Manfred’s money grab along with owners.
Troutahni
The Phillies lost Harper for a big chunk of last season and Castallanos hit terribly last season compared to his track record. Remember the Phillies ended up playing in the NLCS against San Diego, so all is not lost.
sfes
@rct These people are idiots, man. Cohen is trying to do what the Dodgers did successfully. Jump the payroll up by tons in the beginning and keep the team competitive while rebuilding the farm. Nobody talks about how much of a joke they made of the Dodgers 10 years ago.
bronxmac77
I think John Smoltz proved to everybody that lots of good pitchers can be closers. The opposite isn’t necessarily true.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
I’m a lifelong breves fan and know the Mets have much more fight in them. They lost a few guys but that happens to everyone l. This might be a bold take but I think if someone gets injured playing in the WBC they shouldn’t have to be paid that year!! You are playing an exhibition game for someone that’s not your team! It should be the same thing as when someone violates there contract doing other no nos such as driving an ATV. Big nuts Cohen should get his change back (although it’s chump change for him.)
RunDMC
They are required to have insurance to play, which will most likely pay for much of that lost season – why does anyone care that a wealthy insurance carrier has to foot the bill?? That’s misdirected compassion, imho. Teams can, and sometimes do, say no to players. They’re all approved at going.
The idea that there’s a similarity between Ron Gant riding a motorbike through the woods or MadBum on dirt bikes somehow parallels playing your sport for your country – when in many cases most have not or will not have that opportunity in the Olympics (b/c baseball is not recognized as an Olympic sport anymore) — is ridiculous.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
I don’t care about the financial aspect of it or that the insurance company loses money. Also I thought only the largest contracts were insured? I could easily be mistaken on that though. Would a exhibition game that wasn’t part of the MLB curriculum be covered by the insurance? It wasn’t meant to be a lack of compassion, I feel for Edwin diaz and know he wanted to go out there and shove for a talented Mets team and show that last year was the real diaz!! I probably did a bad job conveying my message, it wouldn’t be the first or last time. My point was that if I was ownership I would be kind of pissed, my apologies for the subpar way of trying to get a point across and. On another note @rundmc how long have you been on MLBTR, I know at least four years because you were on here when I first joined. I used to be yungthiccaustinriley
RunDMC
Contract aside, I know each player has to be insured to play (as many have cited Kershaw as not being able to get insured for the WBC as his reason for not playing). Considering the WBC is organized in part with the MLB, I’d be shocked if this play doesn’t fall under coverage, fwiw. Yeah, I imagine Cohen’s assistants are having to replace a few things in his office after getting that phone call (or watching it live), but he knew the risks. How could you really predict something like that though? Such a freak injury.
Honestly, I’m not sure how long I’ve been at MLBTR — 8-10 years? Long enough I feel obligated to pay in to keep this site going…thanks for the note.
swinging wood
Good luck and have a speedy recovery.
bigredmachine3553
This sucks
NoSaint
@bigredmachine35
At least he got to celebrate.
Nothing
All for a silly little tournament. Can’t imagine how angry Mets fans must be.
Mjm117
not silly for the fans of the countries in the tourney and for the players participating in it.
Pete'sView
Nevertheless, this will be a cautionary tale for all 3o teams next WBC. A real shame for the WBC and for Diaz and the Mets.
damascusj
I wouldn’t blame the tournament, maybe the fact he wanted to jump up and down and celebrate…
Or if he wasn’t so brittle
But its not the tournaments fault
For Love of the Game
Yes, but it’s not the fault of the tournament. Diaz just got too energetic in his celebration. Kinda like Kendrys Morales all those years ago.
SocoComfort
Yea it without a doubt because of this tournament. People may like it but it’s scheduled at the dumbest time. Should be a November thing in the warmer climate. Really I do find this tournament to be a joke or novelty. If it floats your boat than go ahead, I’m more hyped for opening day.
geofft
They originally wanted to do it in november. But the Japanese season (or post-season) is still going on at that time.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
The WBC should be in warmer climate in NOVEMBER???
Ma4170
Yes… should be after the MLB season. Can’t believe that it’s not actually.
SocoComfort
@Senor Yea like you know where they are playing now in Miami and Arizona instead of New York City as NYC just got snow. NYC still can get snow in November. I can’t believe I have to explain that.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
But they don’t play it in New York? Think I’m just reading your comment wrong. At first glance, the way you wrote it makes it seem like it’s warmer overall in November.
SocoComfort
Gotcha My bad for coming off as a dick
bronxmac77
My dick doesn’t come off. Yet. 😮
avenger65
It could be that his knee couldn’t bear the weight of his teammates jumping on him or maybe it was just time for his knee to give out. The pictures of the celebration don’t tell you much because you couldn’t really see him until he hit the ground.
kodion
In the one I saw, one of two things happened: He seemed a bit reluctant to get into the bouncing but he either stepped awkwardly on another players foot or another player stepped on his on an “upward bounce”. It is difficult to tell which was him but both seemed to occur at the critical moment.
rct
Eh. I’m not mad. Diaz wanted to play in this and it’s great for the game. Injuries happen. It’s baseball. Hopefully he can come back strong next year. Maybe I’ve just been pre-conditioned for stuff like this (hello Jacob deGrom) but it’ll still be a fun year.
Lanidrac
While you don’t generally celebrate a Spring Training victory, this still could’ve happened another way just as easily at a Spring Training game.
Jaysfansince92
Exactly. For all we know he could have been injured in a spring training game in some other way. No idea why everyone thinks WBC games are inherently more dangerous than spring training games.
bronxmac77
Because it IS inherently more dangerous than spring training games.
Jaysfansince92
There were a bunch of serious injuries recently in spring training as well. People act like the pitchers are lobbing the ball in and guys are jogging up the line in spring training. Guys are throwing full velocity, diving for balls, stealing bases. Injuries are going to happen just as easily in spring training.
VonPurpleHayes
The Mets literally practiced celebrating in Spring Training.
bkbkbkbk
Bro, this tournament was basically the World Cup in all markets outside the US. What you meant to say is “I’m sad because this effects my team.”
Monix
World Cup also sucks.
bronxmac77
He IS sad because it effects his team. As he should be. I’m gonna take a wild guess here. 99% of the people on MLBTR don’t know or care about World Cup. And 99% of World Cup fans don’t care about MLB.
Canosucks
Yes as a Met fan I am really angry because he is Selfish not to think of his professional obligation. Lugo has a partial tear in his UCL, never been fixed, from pitching way over the limited number of pitches the Mets asked for in a previous WBC.
Buck asked players not to play but they did anyway.
I have had major knee surgery and if you think he is coming back this year keep dreaming. And it is his balance leg; MRI will only show so much once doctors get in there, they will find other ligament damage.
Just like with Purdy in football they never know the extent of the damage until they cut you open.
Could have happened another way but it didn’t; it happened in a meaningless tournament.
LonnieB
Cano sucks but you suck way more. The Mets are lucky to have you.
DarkSide830
God forbid we treat these guys as PEOPLE. Diaz has every right to play in the WBC. Get off your MLB-centric high-horse.
bronxmac77
This is MLBTR. Go log onto WBCTR. And take your horse with you.
Lanidrac
It’s not meaningless. It falls only behind the MLB playoffs in terms of meaningful baseball games.
Monix
Then it shouldn’t be a couple weeks into Spring Training. Seems like common sense to have it another time of the year.
Lanidrac
When? You can’t have it during the regular season, you can’t have it during the playoffs, and you can’t have it at any other point in the offseason when most of the players aren’t in game shape.
March may not be perfect, but it’s easily the best option there is when they’ve already had their February workouts and first few games and would otherwise be playing in Spring Training anyway.
JackStrawb
At the end of the regular season’s also reasonable. You do without the guys still in the postseason. Or you wait until the WS is over, and play ball.
Lanidrac
No, it’s not reasonable then.
You can’t do it during the playoffs, or the guys on playoff teams are unfairly left out. Nobody wants to watch such a diminished version of the WBC.
You also can’t do it right after the World Series, as it’s too much of a safety risk (as well as the hitters having lost their timing) for the guys who weren’t in the playoffs to suddenly start playing again after a month off.
Monix
So it’s not OK to do it after they have had a month off, but it is OK to do it after pitchers have had 5 months off and just 2 weeks to prepare? Give me a break.
Lanidrac
Exactly, although it’s over 3 weeks before the WBC starts, not just 2. Those weeks of preparation make all the difference..
bronxmac77
Nope. it falls way further behind than that.
DarkSide830
Call it silly if you like, but these guys what to participate.
mlb1225
People inside the US don’t understand what it means for some of these players. Multiple players have said this is more important to them than the World Series. The World Series to them might be bringing home a championship for a team in a city that they moved to. Winning the WBC to them means bringing a championship to the country they were born and raised in (and many still live in). Have you seen some of these crowds? It’s World Series-level loudness/hypeness when some of the Latin/South American or Asian teams play.
Hurricane Sandy
While it’s true a lot of players might feel it’s more important than the World Series, the players are getting paid to play for their major league baseball teams, not in the world baseball classic. Given guys like judge, Nimmo, etc. who just signed big contracts stayed out of the tournament understanding the responsibility in signing a big contract, you could argue that Diaz should have done the same thing. Can’t say I’m exactly mad at him or anything, just saying, the players responsibility definitely lies more with their major league club than their country.
smuzqwpdmx
Major League Baseball — the employer of the players — expressly and enthusiastically endorses the WBC. Why? Because they’re not so myopic as to think only of today’s profits. Helping bring in new generations of fans and new generations of players is the best thing a player can do for MLB, and participating in the WBC is a big contribution a player can make toward that.
There may be some selfish owners who say their players shouldn’t participate, but they only say that on the hope that every other team’s players will participate. When asked if MLB players as a whole should participate, they vote yes because they know it’s good for MLB in the long run.
Hurricane Sandy
Good point. As a fan though, I’m not thinking of today’s profits, I’m thinking of wanting my team to be whole so they can try to win this year. I get it, they’re all playing for the same team and they want to help build the brand out. I do find it kind of comical though that the majority of team Italy, Great Britain, and Israel, are from the United States. I really doubt those countries care about watching a bunch of Americans pretend to be from their country play baseball. I won’t deny though that the atmosphere for some of these games with the more high profile international teams is pretty awesome to see and experience. At the same time, I have to be honest, I really don’t care about watching the US team play. I did a little bit last time because I wanted us to finally win one of these things, but I’m not really that into it right now. These are players that I’m usually rooting against Lol.
Mystery13
Horrible news.
cardsfanboy
Ottavino is up
LordD99
Welp…
This one belongs to the Reds
Ouch.
Both literally and figuratively.
Robrock30
nypost.com/2023/03/16/francisco-lindors-wife-edwin…
Katia Lindor thinks fans shouldn’t worry about Diaz missing time, it’s more important to consider his family and how it affects them. Lol
JoeBrady
“Can people stop worrying about the Mets season for one second and worry about his health and family instead?” Katia, the “Un-a-Parent” podcast host, wrote beneath SNY’s post. “They’re people too (regardless of his paycheck since I know someone always brings that up) and they’re going through a rough time.
=================================
I am absolutely NOT concerned about his family or his health. This is a facet of sports. It’s why someone like this will earn $100M+ in his career. Injuries occur all the time. My friends and I have all broken stuff while playing.
And there have been far worse injuries that players have had to deal with. And there have been injuries to players that haven’t had the opportunity to land a big contract.
Deleted Userr
@JoeBrady Now do you understand why Manny Machado’s opt-out clause could only hurt the Padres? They could have had him for 6/$180m or traded him to some other team for all of that team’s best prospects. Instead, they had to tack 5 years and $170m onto his deal to get him to stay.
slimray
im not a mets fan JOEBRADY,but lets worry about his health?he gets to get surgery,then go home and prop his leg up and collect big fat paychecks every two weeks.ILL TAKE A BAD BROKEN SMASHED KNEE RIGHT NOW FOR 100mil.he will live and be fine.however this scews the mets.
mab51357
Lol. I’d take a smashed up knee for 100,000.
For Love of the Game
Hers is an important point, but his family gets to cash a $20 million paycheck so somehow I think they will be okay. Plus, they get to have Dad around all summer instead of having him less than half the time.
bronxmac77
Pretty sure he is guaranteed $100 mil regardless. I’ve had my knee scoped and scraped for far less.
Lanidrac
It’s not like this is a life threatening or even a career threatening injury.
jakec77
When something happens to a players heart, or brain, or has some sort of life threatening (or severely life altering) injury then of course the primary concern should be the players health.
And if it’s a situation like Michael Conforto, who suffers a significant injury right before they can sign a big free agent contract? Not as concerned as I am for the player who may die, but yeah I’d feel a little bad for the guy.
But an arm or leg that requires surgery but which will in all likelihood return to normal? For a guy who just signed a fully guaranteed, record breaking contract.
Nope, I’m thinking about how the team can fill the void, and trying to do the math to figure out if there is any shot he can pitch this season.
86mets
Uhhhhh…he’s GUARANTEED $20 million a year for the next 5 years. I think he and the family will be just fine. She must be under the impression that he won’t get paid while rehabbing from surgery. He gets the 100 mil whether he pitches or not. So I think they can weather this storm.
Monix
I’m not surprised that the clown who gave his own fans the thumbs down would marry someone with equally terrible takes.
bronxmac77
Was thinking the same thing. Their world is different, and far more insulated, than ours.
mrb163
Will he still get paid since he wasn’t playing for the mets?
Moneybags 2
I was wondering the same thing
CyBieber
There’s no clause in his contract that voids his salary for playing in the WBC.
phenomenalajs
Nor would there be since it’s sanctioned by the World Baseball Softball Confederation (WBSC) in partnership with Major League Baseball.
CardsFan57
Yes he gets paid
VonPurpleHayes
Cohen could have forbade him to play. He didn’t. Edwin still gets paid.
Robrock30
No Cohen couldn’t forbid him to play even though the WBC was an obvious risk. Buck Showalter even spoke to Yadier Molina about delicately handling his workload and not to use him on back to back days.
Jaysfansince92
Why does eveyone keep saying the WBC is so risky? Players get injured in spring training games all the time too.
avenger65
Yeah. It’s baseball, just like in the majors. It isn’t like they put traffic spikes between first and second to cut down steals, or they put quicksand on the base paths or make the OFers play without gloves. It’s the same rules as MLB baseball, pre-manfred.
rct
@Von: Is that true? I thought it was in the CBA that teams could not refuse to let their players play in the WBC.
VonPurpleHayes
I suppose not officially, but certain players commented that they were encouraged not to participate. It has been reported that Severino was not given permission by Cashman to play for example.
essentiallysports.com/mlb-baseball-news-luis-sever…
kodion
“Player participation in off-season Events will be purely vol-
untary; however, the Association will encourage Player participa-
tion in these Events. The Office of the Commissioner will
encourage Clubs to give consent for their Players to participate in
these Events.”
I can’t find anything more specific to this WBC but the 2017 event was listed in the previous CBA as an International Play Event and subject to the above. It seems to suggest teams do have a right-of-refusal.
bronxmac77
And… Severino is hurt anyway.. Good grief, he’s made of glass.
citizen
do the fans get reimbursed for season tickets after this?
wheres the insurance for that.
like some car accident.
bronxmac77
Bingo. Nope!
dennispruder
This is a very very sad turn of events. The celebration certainly extreme …. just such a terrible freak accident. Thoughts and prayers sent for a quick recovery.
AllAboutBaseball
Another Mets pitcher? What is going on??!
EliMorganFanClub
This hurts to hear, sorry Mets fans
VonPurpleHayes
Ottavino and Robertson, it’s your time to shine. Mets are still a playoff time despite this bummer news.
Robrock30
Mets 40 man roster is really a 40 yo roster with Verlander & Scherzer as the 2 front SPs and Ottavino & Robertson at the back end. LOL
phenomenalajs
Who peed in your corn flakes? The Mets’ infield should be in place for the foreseeable future with Alonso, McNeil, Lindor, and, eventually, Baty. Next year, Cohen will open the vault for Ohtani. The pitching staff will be ok. Alvarez will eventually be the catcher.
avenger65
It isn’t necessary for a closer to throw 100 mph to be effective. The Sox had Colome who wasn’t a fire baller but in season I think he blew only one save.
Timothy Frith
Bad news for the Mets. Closed Edwin Diaz is likely out for all or 2023. Ouch!
Robrock30
Probably won’t return to normal either afterwards.
Larry Brown's crank
thats so not true Ro…..come on
Robrock30
He needs to push off his right leg to attain max velocity and he will be missing significant time and rehab.
Canosucks
Sorry, that is true he will never be the same again; that’s a medical fact
avenger65
Thanks, doc.
foppert
There’s a chance of that. It’s a big tendon. Bit like the Achilles. It will take some healing.
Dotnet22
Mets gonna Met.
SupremeZeus
The WBC was a meaningless exhibition tournament. Now it has a whole lot of meaning for the Mets MLB season. Torpedo to the bow, no way around that fact.
martras
He didn’t injure himself playing…
VonPurpleHayes
Not for the players. Not for many non-American fans. This is your personal opinion. Many disagree. This isn’t meant as a shot at the Mets, but that was probably the most important game of Diaz’s career.
phenomenalajs
Agreed. PR vs DR baseball is like USA vs USSR hockey. Most people don’t realize that the victory of the 1980 USA Olympic Hockey team over the USSR’s “Red Army” in Lake Placid, NY was in the semifinals, not the Gold Medal Game. USA beat Finland in that one.
bronxmac77
But the Olympic team, at the time, did not have professionals, with allegiances to NHL franchises. I remember those games. Thrilling. But some of those fellows did not even make it in the NHL. This is far different. Again., let’s say these players in the WBC… their careers were ended due to an injury, and their contracts voided as a result. Would that be okay? For them?
Codeeg
Yeah and I hope they do the same thing for the World Cup, and all star games too. And the Olympics as well if they try and bring that back.
*Cries in New Yorker tears
Lanidrac
It could’ve happened just as easily in Spring Training.
JackStrawb
@Lanidrac Ah, but do players jump up and down in a great thicket after winning an ST game?
They do not, sir.
Lanidrac
No, but they can snap their knee just as easily in many other ways in a Spring Training game. For example, he could’ve tripped in the bullpen and had the exact same result.
Lanidrac
I don’t consider it to be an exhibition tournament. While not as prestigious as a World Series Championship, winning a WBC title is still an awesome accomplishment, especially for Major Leaguers who can’t play in the Olympics.
Besides, Diaz could’ve just as easily done this in an exhibition Spring Training game.
Ma4170
Not that injury. He could’ve sustained an injury in spring, yes, but I’ll say almost no chance of that injury to that severity.
And it is an exhibition. Not meaningless at all to countries outside the US, but it’s a manufactured competition to substitute for the Olympics. I’m sure it means a lot, but no shot beating DR would trump a World Series victory for diaz.
VonPurpleHayes
The Mets are the team who literally practiced World Series celebrations in spring. So,I can definitely see it happening even without the WBC.
Lanidrac
Yeah, it’s an Olympic substitute, and the Olympics aren’t meaningless, either. The WBC then surpasses the Olympics with MLB players involved. It doesn’t trump the MLB playoffs, but it does trump everything else in baseball.
Of course he could’ve suffered the same severe kind of injury in Spring Training! That’s the thing about freak injuries: they’re freak occurences! While it wouldn’t have happened celebrating, it could’ve just as easily happened in Spring Training by tripping in the bullpen, landing wrong on the mound, jogging around the field, or many other possible ways.
Ma4170
Well, I’ll edit my comment. As a met fan, our players can hurt themselves anywhere, anytime, any place.
Yeah, I’m not one of those “WBC sucks!” But I do think for a competition where not all the best talent actually plays, it just wouldn’t intrigue me. And I do wish they’d hold it after the MLB and Japanese seasons in warm weather climates instead.
Lanidrac
You can’t ask players on teams that missed the playoffs to suddenly ramp it up again after a month off. March is the ONLY time of year where the WBC makes even a decent amount of sense to be played.
bronxmac77
The WBC doesn’t trump anything. You can’t GET to the World Series if your best players are getting hurt in exhibition games. Spring training is just that… training. While injuries occur, the end game is training for a rigorous season. Players and managers are trying to avoid injuries, and condition. Not win games.
mab51357
What would he be celebrating in a spring training game?
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Striking out a recent 20th round draft pick?
VonPurpleHayes
espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31039615/new-york-mets-pra…
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
And yet…
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
And just like that, superstars will soon stop competing in the WBC. It was only a matter of time..
And I love the WBC btw..
CyBieber
Maybe Americans, doubtful for Latin Americans. Playing for their country is more important than a random professional team in another country.
Simm
That is just not true. The random country pays them and that’s more important to them I am sure.
raisinsss
“I am sure.”
I am not.
smuzqwpdmx
You make it sound like MLB is opposed to the WBC. MLB was a huge part of making the WBC happen, and is smart enough to realize that MLB players participating in the WBC is vital to the health of MLB’s future. The league that’s paying them could not be more enthusiastic about them participating in the WBC.
martras
Honestly, blaming the WBC for this injury is ridiculous. He was celebrating, not playing when this happened. There was no baseball activity taking place.
Robrock30
Martras,
Except he wouldn’t have been celebrating or even closing in a ST Game. Closers pitch mid games instead of to minor leaguers at the end of a meaningless game.
martras
Maybe he would have celebrated at his friend’s birthday party? Celebrations also happen outside of baseball. It’s like blaming restaurants for a player getting into a car accident on their way to eat out.
UGA_Steve
Your continued arguments against this are ridiculous. Yes, playing in the WBC is a direct causal affect. It happened, get over it and stop acting like you work for the WBC.
I understand the importance for the players, fans, and countries. In the US, it takes a backseat to the regular season, but that doesn’t mean it is not important. I believe every player has a right to be there unless they signed a contract stating they would not.
All that being said, he got hurt there celebrating a win that if it were spring training would mean nothing. Your nonsense about he could have gotten hurt any other number of ways is just utterly ridiculous. Instead of playing fantasy injury options how about comparing it to what his routine would have been like this time of year in spring training and asking yourself would he have likely gotten hurt. The odds are far lower. Again, it happened. Accept that the WBC played the most significant part and stop the nonsense. Your silly argument is probably turning more people away from the WBC than it is gaining support for it.
Lanidrac
A freak injury like that could’ve happened a number of ways besides celebrating.
Besides, closing out a WBC game isn’t that much different from pitching in the middle of a Spring Training game, especially since they pitch midgame in the first place so that they can still face the starting lineup. Plus, a number of WBC teams have a few minor leaguers (or more/worse) in their lineups.
raisinsss
Honestly with the way causation is treated here, I’m surprised more people aren’t blaming Edwin’s game performance for the injury.
If he’d blown the save, there wouldn’t be a celebration. He wouldn’t get stepped on etc, and he wouldn’t be injured.
Therefore it’s his own fault
JackStrawb
I blame the butterflies.
Howiedoin
But what about the trumpets? Lolmets
MikeyHammer
Good news is, in eight months he’ll be fine. Bad news is, in eight months you’ll still be a dick.
Howiedoin
Oh wow, man, your comment has really made me reevaluate the way I judge annoying players on opposing teams. Wait, wait, I got another one for you. “10.5 games up! The division is OVAH! Nobody is catching the Mets!” Lmao, always golden. The Mets have provided me more real laughs through the years than absolutely any other sports franchise, and I’m not sure it’s even close really.
MikeyHammer
Wow, thanks for the history lesson. I almost forgot that people who laugh at injuries are generally the dumbest turds on the planet. Carry on, imbecile.
Howiedoin
Who would you say the smartest turds are?
SupremeZeus
Goodbye Timmy Trumpet, hello Sad Trombone.
DCartrow
Don’t worry, Timmy Trumpet knows how to play “Taps”
brooklyn62
That’s funny, but cold blooded!
Old York
Time to ban celebrations. These fragile players can’t take a bit of celebration without damaging themselves.
JackStrawb
[Cody Bellinger nods slowly]
Hired Gun 23
Next man up! Blaming never helped an injury heal faster…
foppert
I think it makes the injured fan heal faster.
Hired Gun 23
I can see the logic in that. Great response! Hahaha
meckert
Luis Castillo and Timo Perez now welcome Edwin Díaz into the Mets Hall of Stupidity.
getrealgone2
That’s a shame.
Fooque2
Need another billion dollars to get them over the top…..
AdamGe
Ottavino was very good last year and Robertson has experience closing, But both of these guys are older, have a history of being inconsistent, and have histories of injuries. Mets need to be a bit aggressive about getting someone via trade or consider someone else in the bullpen (John Curtiss?). Diaz is truly irreplaceable.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Mets moment
Lanidrac
A freak injury like that can happen any number of ways and just as easily in a Spring Training game. You can’t blame the WBC for it.
dp7
It seems to happen to Mets a lot.
brodie-bruce
@landric well said, this is a freak injury that could of happened getting out of his car heading into the ballpark or getting out of the shower the list goes on so should we ban all non bb activities and players must only stay in the park for the season.
ChristianRocker
I hate people blaming the tournament for this. First of all this was a celebration injury, not a baseball one. Second, if you can’t tell how much these games mean to the players then you obviously don’t know that these are not “meaningless games”
mlb1225
Totally agree. These guys take this tournament more seriously than the World Series, and it shows. This injury could have happened to him during a workout session, or even just doing a running drill.
Monix
No, the injury couldn’t have just happened during a workout session or a running drill. Because when you do those in Spring Training, you’re preparing your body for the season. You’re not making a relief appearance that’s so high leverage and intensity. These players bodies aren’t built up for playoff intensity like these games seem to mean for certain players.
Jung Like My Daddy
Good news is Mets have prospects to deal from but question is will they.
Baty, Parada, Mauricio, Vientos, are all blocked for the foreseeable future.
Wonder if they could entice the Rockies to trade Bard or Giants Doval or Pirates Bednar or possibly acquire a few arms from the Rays who always seem to have a surplus of pitching.
foppert
Wonder no more. The Giants aren’t trading Doval.
geofft
Saying that they’re blocked is an overstatement. Escobar is on the last year of his deal. If/when the Mets decide that Baty is ready, is nothing to stop them platooning him, trading Escobar, or sending EE to the bench.
No one important is blocking Vientos from taking part or all of the DH role. The people there now are expendable. The other prospects are farther away than these two, and a lot happens in a couple of years.
phenomenalajs
Who’s blocking Baty right now? If they completed that deal for Correa, sure, but Escobar’s on his walk year and wouldn’t be blocking Baty if he were ready anyway.
Robertowannabe
Considering it was just Diaz in a group jumping up and down a couple of inches, this same injury could have happened if he was just in ST throwing. Sounds like it was something that was ready to tear and that minor jumping did it., Could have easily done the same thing in ST and covering first and hit thing bag with his right leg and it could have popped then . Easy thing to blame the Would Cup games but could have happened any way at the ST facility
Canosucks
Sorry your Patella tendon is very thick this was not something that was weakening for a while
YankeesBleacherCreature
Same thing could happen to any pitcher sprinting over to cover firstbase on a weak groundball. Dirt wasn’t even, spikes got caught, etc.
Robertowannabe
It is just odd to me that he did not do anything that wild. Was not a dog pile, They were all just jumping up and down literally 2-3 inches in unison. To me that would be no different or actually less risky than him running full speed to first to cover and jamming his right leg at the bag at an angle to get an out. That could have easily done the same damage considering what they were doing celebrating was minimal.
YankeesBleacherCreature
He just landed weirdly. It’s happened to Kendry Morales and Dellin Betances in the past. Guys practice lateral jumps on/off raised platforms all the time as part of their routines.
Robertowannabe
Basically my point. He landed weirdly and you see players as you say get an injury sometimes serious by weirdly landing and can happen any time when you are playing a sport. To blame it specifically because of the WBC was being played is only an emotion response to the injury.. Could have happened to him landing weirdly in a ST drill or game just the same. I have no problem with the players playing. I am a Pirates fan. Bednar. Underwood, and Contreras are/were playing in the WBC. as well. Bednar and Contreras are important pieces to the Pirates present and future. I am not bothered by them pitching..
Hammerin' Hank
Baseball players always get injured in the weirdest ways.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Didn’t they just give him a ton of money with an extension too? Or was that last winter going into the ’22 season?
ChuckyNJ
They gave him the big extension last fall **and** announced it on an NFL Sunday when a Jets game was in progress.
progers2622
MLB is now considering banning jumping jacks for the 2024 season. More to come.
James Midway
It makes me wonder if this was something that was going to happen regardless of WBC or otherwise.
In addition to the stress/pressure put on the arms, the pitchers legs and joints are also always being slammed down and asked to exert enough force to throw the ball 95+.
I am not by means even close to a medical expert, but I am genuinely wondering if this was something that was going to happen in the near future regardless.
raydh
The answer is in the post right below this one. The Mets can trade with the Giants for Sergio
Romo.
NoSaint
Scott Barlow, c’mon down!
citizen
bobby bonnila is still on the pay roll.
just sayin’
NoSaint
@citizen
Barlow is a pretty good closer with the Royals. Might be a trading partner.
JackStrawb
He made the throw from 3B. From the mound should be a breeze.
baked mcbride
Uff da!
Old York
Shutdown David Robertson. Should be good for at least a 161-save season this year. He’ll blow one game.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Their ill wishes for deGrom were granted! Just to the wrong player… karma
phenomenalajs
Ill wishes? Who, the fans? Not hardly. Not management and ownership either. He got a longer deal than the Mets were willing to give. Good for him. He certainly wouldn’t be celebrating Diaz’s injury.
prov356
Surprised teams allow their players to participate. It’s an honor to do so but this can be the result. I hope Trout and Ohtani come out uninjured. Of course Ohtani threw a pitch at 102 mph yesterday so there’s that…
LonnieB
If teout gets hurt no one can blame WBC. He and Rendon love that IL the last few years.
prov356
Rendon yes, Trout no. Totally different work ethics. you can’t put them in the same class ever.
DarkSide830
It ain’t a work ethic thing – he’s just brittle.
prov356
False.
Rsox
Done for the season most likely. Mets are off to a rough start
Big whiffa
They haven’t won a game since the Correa debacle
phenomenalajs
Good point. Has SF won a regular season game since then either?
bighiggy
Cards may have a bullpen crunch coming up, wonder if they be willing to deal hicks who has had his ups and downs.he could help the Mets and probably bring back a good prospect
SODOMOJO
Now it’s REALLY not funny. Sheesh. That’s awful
AndyMeyer
As Phillies fan who despises the Mets, you never want to see anyone get hurt. Wishing him well on the road to recovery
PaulR28
I was hoping it was Laz Diaz, but I guess you can’t have everything.
zachary08
WBC sounds as if it’s a great thing and maybe but at least have it after the season
jakethesnizake
If he was already injured then he shouldn’t have been pitching in the WBC. I feel for him but not for the Mets…they should have told him not to play.
Big whiffa
Right. I was just making fun of them 2 days ago for being a dysfunctional version of the Yankees still then this.
rhswanzey
I think the Mets are going to be fine – right in the thick of the NL east with WS upside. Maybe they add relief help at the deadline to fortify things; most contenders do anyway.
I think the big loss is for baseball itself; overshadowing a historic game in a growing global spotlight, and now losing the aura and mystique of Trumpets to close out games in a huge media market, which was an experience in of itself.
Hopefully he picks up right where he left off; baseball is healthier when unique talents like him are doing their thing.
venezolano1969
Americans will never understand the importance of the WBC for players representing their countries. And for Puerto Rico to beat the Dominican Republic and eliminate them must have felt like the Red Sox eliminating the Yankees, maybe more. As a Venezuelan I love the WBC because it’s the one chance I get to see all my idols together defending our country. (Believe me… if we beat the USA Team this saturday the celebration will be as hard as the Puertoricand did yesterday)
brodie-bruce
@venez i agree to most of us americans we don’t see the wbc as a big deal because well every year from march to october we get to see the best in the world and anything that isn’t a mlb season is just a “meaningless” game. just because we don’t care as much about the wbc doesn’t mean it’s a meaningless tourney for a lot of these countries especially those with economic or political strife they can forget about there problems and be proud of there country and there best playing on a big stage.
O'sSayCanYouSee
brodie-bruce — “for a lot of these countries especially those with economic or political strife they can forget about there problems and be proud of there country and there best playing on a big stage.”
…so Americans are interested in the WBC?!??! 🙂
O'sSayCanYouSee
Venezolano1969 — As an American, I love the WBC! There are lots of players that play in rival teams, but during the WBC I can root for guys that I wouldn’t normally. I also take a bit of pride in Baseball being an American sport, so I hope USA always shows up. (Like the English and Soccer).
Just saying, there are LOTS of Americans that love the WBC too. Don’t let all the sour-grapes posts make you think otherwise. (This is an Article about a player suffering a season ending injury, some moaning should be expected and understood.)
JoelP
Freak injury. Nothing more, nothing less. Just as easily could have slipped in the dugout on a rest day in Port St Lucie with Cohen and Buck right there in attendance. People using the WBC as a scapegoat are just wrong.
Cleon Jones
Patella injury is worse than ligaments, that’s potentially career ending. Bad break for Diaz, but even if he never returns to form he’s set for life and a few generations of children after him as well. A flukey way to have things turn out for him.
Mets have some choices to backfill late innings, but this is still a difficult loss in baseball’s best division. Cant just throw money at this problem…..will test Mets organization creativity. Time will tell…….
JackStrawb
“…will test Mets organization creativity.”
—for the love of god, have you no mercy?
bobsugar84
I don’t know who this player Edwin Diaz is without MLBTR’s usual four paragraphs describing his first games in little league and how he did in his minor league career. Plus, I really missed those paragraphs explaining in detail his first couple seasons in the league seven years ago. 😉
In all seriousness though, this not only sucks for Mets fans but for nearly all baseball fans as well. Rivals won’t miss him but for the rest of us he was one of the most exciting closers in the game. Dang it!
cf89
Here’s a tip. Don’t read MLB trade rumors, since you’re so damn sanctimoniously brilliant.
And no, I won’t miss Diaz. Not a bit.
Luke Strong
Of course he’s in good spirits, his $105m is guaranteed and he has a job waiting for him after he recovers. Although I’m guessing he’ll never be the same pitcher ever again. I think it’s $105 million down the drain.
JackStrawb
Don’t be such a sourpuss. He’ll be a solid 4.20 ERA MR.
cf89
LOL Mets. This is just the beginning. By mid season that roster will look like a geriatric ward. Pathetic. Cohen is an ass. If not for Phlubbies they’d be the biggest joke in baseball.
leftykoufax
A simple high five should do after a victory, maybe a pat on the ass and get back to the dugout. The real losers are us fans who wont get too see the best players compete due to bonehead injuries like this.
foppert
Really. So your disappointment at not seeing Diaz pitch, trumps a fellow human having to endure surgery and then 6months of slow, tedious, painful rehab. All the while dealing with the mindf@ck of knowing that you might not get back to the awesome peak that you had just worked your way too. Ok. You have taken it hard.
ChipperChop
@foppert I’m not a Mets fan so wether he’s playing or not I don’t really care. But fans with the over the top sympathy for pro athletes getting a knee injury, arm injury, etc I find a little ridiculous. The man didn’t die. Worst case scenario is he walks with a limp the rest of his life while collecting the $100 million guaranteed contract he signed. I’ll save my sympathy for people who get injured on the job and because of it have no idea how they are gonna put food on the table or even worse, die on the job. So yes, I’ll admit. I care more about watching the best players competing on the field than I do about a guy in Diaz’s situation having knee surgery. Maybe I’m selfish, idk.
foppert
Chipper. That’s fair. I respect the honesty. I’m pretty sure the fans will cope as well. That’s my point. Saying they are the real losers when a man suffers a possible career defining injury, is off the hook self entitlement imo.
ChipperChop
@foopert Yeah I don’t know if that’s self entitlement or not. I’m a Braves fan and in 2021 when Acuna got hurt I’ll admit, my first thought was how are the Braves going to replace him. Also I really didn’t think the team would be as fun to watch because, at that time, he was really the only guy performing. Didn’t lose a wink of sleep worried about Acuna’s surgery or the rehab he would have to go through. But I probably did lose a minute or two wondering how AA would replace his production and if I’d be able to watch games that matter down the stretch. It’s just being a fan and there was nothing life threatening about the injury, same with Diaz. Luckily AA pushed the right buttons and I was able to watch competitive Braves games all the way through the WS. I think that’s what 99% of all baseball fans truly care about unless the injury is life threatening like getting hit in the head, etc.
VonPurpleHayes
It wasn’t an egregious celebration. It was a simple jump up and down. It actually looked fairly cautious and safe. I was shocked he got hurt. Freak injury.
Camden453
Diaz is not a huge loss.. Someone else will step in. The “closer role” is such a hugely overrated concept. Most pitchers are able to get through 1 inning without any problem. Over the years pitching the 9th inning has been elevated to a level of godlike status it never used to be in the 80s and prior. Back then relievers lower on the depth chart used to pitch the 9th all the time without problems
Now maybe if youre fighting and scratching for the last wild card spot it makes a difference, but the Mets arent in that position
This will have little impact on their season. One reliever, even the #1 reliever in baseball, does not have the level of impact people think it does
The reality is, Drew Smith can step in, Ottavino, Robertson, or any of the other guys. Who knows, it may even take some of the pressure off, be a break from all the excitement and sensationalism of having Diaz in, and change the makeup of the team for the better
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Camden453 “Diaz is not a huge loss.”
LMAO!!!
Too funny.
JackStrawb
@THEY LIVE!!! I mean, who wouldn’t swap 65 innings of shutdown high pressure relief for 65 innings of Chasen Shreve with anything other than a shrug?
VonPurpleHayes
I agree with some of your points, but Buck used Diaz pretty smartly. He wasn’t afraid to pitch him in do-or-die situations in the 7th 8th or 9th. It wasn’t about getting saves per se. The guy was virtually unhittable. The Mets will definitely miss him, but the idea that their season is done is just ridiculous. When you don’t have a Diaz type, you use a bullpen by committee. The Mets can still succeed with this.
Camden453
We’ve seen Diaz break down and lose it. Walks. Fastballs that fly two feet off the plate. Batters hopping over sliders that veer in feet from the plate. Then he takes something off and throws a fastball down the middle and it gets hit out
That type of breakdown will probably happen in the biggest game of his career somewhere deep in the playoffs
I give him the benefit of the doubt, but I don’t expect him to deliver when the entire season, entire World Series hinges on him getting through the inning
VonPurpleHayes
That WBC game was a World Series type of environment. It was the biggest game of his career and he delivered.
brodie-bruce
@von i would like to add this too, this is the type of injury that all teams wanting to win a chip face, but the winners find a way to win. this is the mets first test on the long road to winning a ws. the question is are the mets going to go out there win not having diaz, or just fold and make excuses why they didn’t win? also if 1 guy is going to make or break your season then your team wasn’t that good to start with (this applies to all teams really not just the mets)
VonPurpleHayes
@brodie Exactly. No team has ever won the World Series without injury concerns.
jakec77
So, what team has a contract they desperately want to get rid of and who are willing to attach a closer in order to accomplish this?
rhswanzey
Scott Barlow and Hunter Dozier for prospects
But KC will have so many suitors for Barlow, that that’s not a move they have to make, at all
jakec77
I dont know that Dozier’s contract is bad enough.
Maybe Yelich, but Brewers probably wouldn’t want to make that kind of move now. Maybe in July depending on where they are in the standings.
Otoh, given how volatile relievers are from year to year it probably makes more sense from the Mets perspective to wait until in season to make a big move anyway.
Seamus O'Meara
Sergio Romo may still be willing to pitch. Go get him.
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Romo just announced his retirement …
fletch1367
Great talent. Here’s to a speedy and full recovery. Go Phils!
wileycoyote56
For all the WBC hype, this is the worst case scenario that everyone worries about! They need to have the WBC in the off season, easier to recover
Tastes Like Chicken
Unfortunate injury but at least no more Timmy Trumpet sideshow with dancing baseballs.
jorge78
Can they refuse to pay him because he was stoopid?
VonPurpleHayes
He wasn’t really stupid. It was a cautious celebration. A tiny leap equal to something people do daily. It was a freak thing.
Robertowannabe
As I said earlier, could have done the same thing if he was having to cover 1st in that game or any ST Game.
baseballteam
Or if a spaceship fell out of the sky and hit his knee.
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If I already had the Mets for 3rd in their division does this drop them to 4th place?
meckert
In your alternate universe, yes.
bronxmac77
Yes, but everybody else in the division drops down a notch as well. So it cancels out.
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If I’m Zach Britton I’m holding out for 3 years and $33 million. After all, Cohen has proven already to have way more money than brains. Stick it to them Zach!!!
phenomenalajs
Zach might have, but he goes by Zack.
THEY LIVE!!!
He changed the “h” to a “k” and now he can’t find a job. Better he go back to Zach.
bronxmac77
Tell him to try Zac.
Robertowannabe
Just read about a Pirates top 20 prospect Dariel Lopez. He dislocated a knee cap this off season doing a team designed workout that included jumping. Done for the year. Eerily familiar to Diaz.
Berkner
At least he got his money
Fred McGriff HR
People still do not learn from the mistakes of the past, or from Kendrys Morales.
Baseball_dude
And this is the exact reason why every team owner – manager- and general manager, should not allow their players/investments to participate in the WBC. That’s a huge loss for the Mets and it didn’t even happen on their watch.
If players are going to get injured it better be at the cost while wearing the uniform of the teams that’s paying you. Imagine if that was, Trout, J-Rod, Harper, etc. it should 100% be in the players contracts “if you play in the WBC and get injured, you ain’t getting paid from Us” .
Fred McGriff HR
He didn’t get injured playing, he got injured doing something ridiculous. Yes, he was a member of Puerto Rico, but he wasn’t actively playing at the time, the game was over. Ban jumping up and down with 10 guys around you with cleats on that could step on your foot, what could go wrong…
VonPurpleHayes
It was a pretty tame celebration, and no one jumped on him as you imply here. His knee gave when he jumped.
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VonPurpleHayes
Oh dear, I haven’t implied anything at all about people jumping on Diaz foot. I said that could happen as a result of jumping up and down with 10 guys with cleats on around you. Argue with yourself.
Fred McGriff HR
I heard a guy on ESPN saying these are “exhibition games”. How does he come up with that. These people have zero idea, the same as fans who have said “this is pointless”.
It’s obvious that some players at this baseball tournament, not “exhibition”, love their countries, and love playing for their countries and being patriots more than some players or fans who think they have more passion playing for their clubs.
It isn’t the same thing and it never will be, but that depends on your level of how much you love your own country, going by some people’s comments here, not so much, or they just do not get it.
Samuel
Fred McGriff HR;
Here’s the thing….
Most of the people posting here today are talking about how important the WBC is.
In fact, MLB.COM has been covering it extensively.
However, I don’t see where MLBTR has covered it at all (perhaps I missed an article), and I’ve seen no posts in the comment section about it until a name player got inured – so MLBTR posted this story and posters are falling over themselves talking about how important the WBC is.
Fred McGriff HR
Samuel,
It’s more than likely the fact that some people never even heard of it before this particular version of the series in 2023. It’s been going a long time, and I’ve always loved seeing it for the fact you do get the passion from the majority of countries involved and their fans, just not from mainly one specific country, which most of the commenters who are negative about it come from.
This was the original article covering it.
mlbtraderumors.com/2023/03/poll-who-will-win-the-2…
bronxmac77
Most of the ‘big name players’, are big name players, due to ‘mainly one specific country’. Nobody is questioning players’ loyalty to their homeland, even though many players on those teams are actually born in ‘one specific country’. But asking a team, and its fandom, to commit to players in massive fashion, and then losing the same players in a random tournament outside that commitment… is a bit disingenuous.
Fred McGriff HR
Bronxmac77
How is it “random”. Do you actually know the history of the World Baseball Classic, many Americans do not because they think the World Series between two American teams is actually a ‘World Series’, well it patently isn’t, hence they come up with “exhibition games”, “meaningless baseball games” amongst the other negative & derisive inaccurate comments about the WBC that I’ve seen on MLBTR. Some people think this was the first time the WBC was played, the reason for that line of thinking is that the majority of countries had all their best players playing so it created more interest this time, and the USA still lost to ‘AAA’ Japan.
User 3595123227
You seen that guys hair? Lol.
Ron Hayes
WBC canceled.
showfeet
Sign Roberto Osuna. Couple weeks of PR headaches and everyone will forget the past like they do with anyone else that performs.
showfeet
Sign Roberto Osuna. Couple weeks of PR headaches and everyone will forget JJ the past like they do with anyone else that performs.
MarlinsFanBase
Too bad for the player. For the Mets, even I think this is unexpected. Diaz is one of the Mets’ younger players.
Whew, I can feel the Mets fans’ pain. I wanted Diaz to test the market and the Marlins to take a shot at him. Had that happened and we landed him, then this happen…I would’ve been ticked off. This stings when you are in the NL East and having to deal with the challenges of the division. And now to be in a situation where your Closer is out and you can potentially not be able to hold leads is rough. I know this from a fan experience of watching my team blow leads all over the place.
For Diaz, at least he got paid, but as a human, you hope he can recover from it for his career.
YankeesBleacherCreature
You really think Sherman would allocate that big of a percentage of payroll to sign Diaz? Yeah it totally sucks for Mets fans and baseball losing an elite closer for the season.
MarlinsFanBase
I’m not sure what to think of Sherman right now. There is some spending, but not all-out spending, but some of it seems to be Ng’s resistance a little. They attempted to sign Bellinger, Josh Bell, Drury and a few others, but couldn’t bring them to the finish line. They mis-spent on some of their current roster. Once they seem truly ready to go all in, then we’ll see what Sherman is about.
With Diaz, he was the right fit for the Marlins both in need and age. It made too much sense if he entered the market. But we’ll never know since Diaz never tested the market.
MetsFan34
I didn’t care about the WBC before. Now I actively hate it.
WiffleBall
You’re a Mets fan. There’s not much to enjoy about life.
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@WiffleBall – EXACTLY!!!
MarlinsFanBase
I wonder if he also hated those Omar Minaya Los Mets and Jose Jose Jose Reyes years since that’s a small bit of the type of atmosphere that the WBC has.
MetsFan34
I loved Jose Reyes as a Met and 2006 was one of my favorite teams.
I loved the two Carloses and Pedro too for that matter (though I wish Pedro had more health still in him).
Feel free to keep implying that anyone who doesn’t care about the WBC must dislike it for racist reasons though if it makes you feel better.
MarlinsFanBase
I actually wasn’t insinuating it as being for racist reasons. I was actually referring to a Mets bias because you hate the WBC when it brings an even more celebratory atmosphere than the Los Mets and Jose Reyes’ antics did (which you admit to loving).
Your answer about liking that Mets stuff while hating the WBC confirms what I was actually getting at.
I am known on these boards to bash Mets fans for their contradictions, fickleness, and other frailties. I don’t get into the political crud that others bring here. Do keep up.
MetsFan34
My bad, I apologize.
A Mets bias I will happily admit too.
bronxmac77
People don’t hate the WBC. People think that players who readily accept nine-figure deals should do whatever they can to fulfill their end of those deals. Playing in a tournament independent (and possibly at risk) of those goals seems to contradict why those players signed those contracts in the first place.
MetsFan34
Fair. lol. Last year was fun though.
JayRyder
Oh My God ! Out for the Year ?! . Horrible. These idiots jumping around like idiots deserve it. The celebrations have gone way too far. People are getting hurt because they jumped him and twisted and turned him. What a bunch of idiots. I hope this is a lesson, and well earned for All teams and players of every level. Chill the F Out!
DanUgglasRing
Horrendous take, grandpa.
DUDDUS
You sir, are hilarious
DanUgglasRing
Cohen can afford to lose as much money as you can imagine. It’s not about the money. It’s about losing the productivity Diaz brought to the team which literally cannot be replaced. Everyone complaining about the money just doesn’t get it. He only cares about winning and he’s willing to lose money to do so.
JayRyder
Horrendous take, child.
DanUgglasRing
If that’s not the case then can you explain why he gave Diaz that deal and the timing of the signing? Child?
bronxmac77
Dan is exactly right.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Can’t really fault Edwin for showing a little yippee. Got Teoscar to end the night and help PR advance. Michelle Yeoh and Jamie Lee got Teoscars to on Sunday and they were pretty pumped
JackStrawb
Remember Jamie Lee in the mirror in Trading Places? Good god.
—The Mets will miss Diaz. Short of dealing they’re now looking at replacing what might have been the best 65 innings in MLB with a guy who otherwise wasn’t going to make the team out of ST, their eighth or ninth-best reliever. That’s a guy with an ERA over 4.50, on average, especially with a pen that was thin before Edwin’s jump for joy.
They were already likely to battle with the Phils for 2nd place. Strip them of another 3 wins and they’ll have trouble ensuring a lock on 6th in the NL and a playoff slot.
Imagine a $450m payroll + penalties, and now you have to sweat making the wild card playoff. Well, that’s what happens when you have holes all over the roster and think, “I know it’s the deepest position in the organization, but what we really need is an incredibly expensive shortstop in significant decline… wait, hear me out….”
It’s almost as if there’s a price for doing stupid shet…
bronxmac77
Not a Mets fan. Actually, as a Yankees fan, I point and laugh at the Mets a lot.
Having said that, if Mr. Cohen were to absorb the entire payroll himself, without any incoming baseball revenue streams, he could do so, with relative ease. The man wants to win. Jose Altuve busted his thumb in the WBC, costing the World Champions their 2B man. Trying to win is not stupid. Owners who pocket their fans money, as well as revenue-sharing money, without trying to field a competitive team, is worse than stupid. It is toxic.
JackStrawb
Remember Jamie Lee in the mirror in Trading Places? Good god.
—The Mets will miss Diaz. Short of dealing they’re now looking at replacing what might have been the best 65 innings in MLB with a guy who otherwise wasn’t going to make the team out of ST, their eighth or ninth-best reliever. That’s a guy with an ERA over 4.50, on average, especially with a pen that was thin before Edwin’s jump for joy.
They were already likely to battle with the Phils for 2nd place. Strip them of another 3 wins and they’ll have trouble ensuring a lock on 6th in the NL and a playoff slot before September 28th, at best.
Imagine a $450m payroll + penalties, and now you have to sweat making the wild card playoff. Well, that’s what happens when you have holes all over the roster and think, “I know it’s the deepest position in the organization, but what we really need is an incredibly expensive shortstop in significant decline… wait, hear me out….”
It’s almost as if there’s a price for foolishness.
Poolhalljunkies
This isnt the wbc’s problem. This is the world we live in bad things happen it sucks.. People need to stop with the blame game as this could have happend any place at any time
njbirdsfan
As I said on my own, let’s see if you have the same attitude when it’s someone on your team going down.
Poolhalljunkies
Im a red sox fan..google chris sale..bike wreck..broken rib sneezing…hell we had a guy shoot himself by mistake a while back..so yea i get your sour grapes but come on lol
bronxmac77
Wade Boggs… cowboy boots injury… :-0
WiffleBall
Wow, NJ Turdsfan is PISSED. Somebody get him his binkie.
njbirdsfan
All I’ll say is if you’re a talking head making the argument that anyone can get injured at any time, and that the WBC is a worthwhile event, you’d better be singing the same tune when one of YOUR guys goes down. Because it’s going to happen, especially when you try to ramp up this quickly during spring training.
Poolhalljunkies
That the best you got?
WiffleBall
Wait, you’re telling me fans will have to deal with players getting injured? How utterly shocking.
WiffleBall
Can Cano come back and pitch?
dasit
terrible that this happened but as a yankee fan i’m excited to see d-rob step up and achieve folk hero status
SFGiantsGallore
That sucks for both him and the team. They still look like contenders in the East. It’ll be just that more difficult without Diaz. Hopefully he has a quick recovery and gets to pitch towards the end of the season.
Deleted Userr
Edlose Diaz confirmed
Nobaseball20
The impact of the WBC, I hope the commissioner pays the medical and salary cost to the
METS.
Rob66
Kendrys Morales?
In case it wasn’t mentioned already
kreckert
Folks, stop blaming and ridiculing the WBC. It’s not meaningless and it’s not silly. It matters to the players, and it matters to the countries and locations that don’t regularly get to see the best players in the world compete in games that are, to them, intrinsically meaningful.
Oh, and it’s good for the overall health of the sport.
Is it, in this case, bad for the Mets? Sure. But that’s sports, and that’s life. Rational adults should be able to deal with it. As for the rest of you, kindly put your thumbs in your mouths where they belong. The rest of us don’t want to hear your crying.
bronxmac77
Actually… I like to hear their ‘crying’…
bronxmac77
How about playing the WBC around MLB playoff time? Similar to the NFL and the Pro Bowl. Teams in the playoffs are ineligible to participate until/unless they are eliminated. Playoffs are regionally supported. No one in Tampa Bay cares about the Padres, and vice-versa. The WBC, as folks have said, is global. I think the timing would be better. Players are conditioned. And you risk less of a full MLB season..
What do youse think?