One year after a tense period of CBA negotiations between MLB and it players that resulted in a lockout and a delay to the start of the 2022 season, it appears the league is already preparing for the next round of negotiations. According to Evan Drellich of The Athletic, the commissioner’s office has formed what they’re calling an economic reform committee chaired by Dodgers chairman Mark Walter. Drellich reports that Tigers chairman Chris Ilitch, Red Sox principle owner John Henry, and Rockies chairman Dick Monfort are among other members of the committee of franchise owners. The current CBA is set to expire following the 2026 season.
As Drellich notes, the impending bankruptcy of Diamond Sports Group, owner of the Bally Sports networks that hold the TV distribution rights of 14 MLB teams, appears to be a catalyst for the creation of this committee. Should that bankruptcy indeed come to pass, it would open the door for MLB to begin work on a league-wide streaming service free from blackouts. But according to Manfred, discussions of such a path have brought about concerns about disparity between the revenues of clubs:
“We have businesses that are literally not similar in terms of the overall revenue that they’re generating.” Manfred tells Drellich, “And to the extent that you could find a new distribution model that actually helped on that disparity side, that would be the daily double. So people are having conversations that haven’t been had in baseball, and it’s really been owners talking to owners, which is a good thing.”
As Drellich points out, the financials of most MLB clubs are not public and the new committee has no plans to produce a league-wide financial report, making it impossible to verify most claims related to revenue. But Drellich reports that concerns about revenue disparity have been exacerbated by the willingness of Mets owner Steve Cohen to put up record payrolls that dwarf those of other clubs. Per RosterResource, the Mets 2023 payroll for luxury tax purposes currently sits at almost $374 million, and that’s even after the club’s bid to land Carlos Correa on a 12-year, $315 million contract fell through due to concerns about Correa’s physical.
Drellich quotes an industry source as saying that “[Small market clubs] demand everything’s got to change… The whole idea is to basically come up with a system that gets to a salary cap.”
For his part, Manfred claims that the league has not “even begun to think about where we’re going to be the next go-around” of collective bargaining negotiations, but Drellich notes that other quotes from the commissioner indicate the proposal of a hard-cap could be on the horizon:
“When I talk about a more national product, sort of the thought there is that a more national product produces more centrally shared revenue… which, in turn, we hope, would reduce payroll disparities. At various times, we have talked and proposed, including in the last round, about direct payroll regulation, in addition to that, having a minimum payroll… We remain open to those sorts of solutions. Obviously, we’re a long way from the next round of bargaining, but there are ways to get at it.”
Even if the league has interest in pursuing a salary cap in future CBA negotiations, plenty of obstacles remain. The MLBPA, which Drellich reports declined to comment on the league’s new committee, has of course staunchly stood against a salary cap for decades. Drellich also notes that teams likely disagree as to where a hypothetical cap and floor would be set. Still, this committee serves as a reminder that, even with the lockout in the past and a new agreement in place that should keep labor peace for at least the next four seasons, more difficult negotiations remain on the horizon, both between owners themselves and between the league and its players.
davidk1979
These cheap so called small market owners are the real issue.
Yankee Clipper
Especially Monfort. The joke is using this as an excuse to further a narrative they’ve been pushing openly for years. Monfort didn’t spend before this, why does this suddenly make it an issue for him?
The owners want limits on salaries and will use any excuse they can to achieve the NFL mode they’ve been striving to complete for years, under the auspices of competitive balance.
Within five years they will change field dimensions to 100-yards, put up goal posts, and have touchdowns instead of HRs. All their changes may help the Rockies win a WS but it’s going to be a self- fulfilling prophecy because they’re going to lose tons of fans, particularly in the larger markets where their primary fan bases come from, with all the changes to the original game. Do they honestly think a long run of major markets not doing well will be good for the game? Anyone who says yes is incredibly naive or deceived.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
You’re right in pretty much everything you just said except the Rockies hypothetically winning a WS lol
whyhayzee
I envision an exciting new version of the sport where everyone carries a bat and a ball and just runs around whomping and pegging each other until no one’s left standing.
swinging wood
I’m not going to pay a bunch of money to watch some dudes pegging each other.
kellin
I have some friends who would, though..
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Hockey?
scjohn92
“Hold my beer”– Trevor Bauer
pohle
do you honestly think that less parity can be bad for the mlb? no breaking changes are going to be occuring anytime soon, these people all have until 2026 to prove that they want to make the system better. so the only reason i can think of that you are so against this, it is takes money away from your precious yankees into the hands of those grubby poor small market teams, which you can then use as an excuse for why poor cashman didnt end up with the top four free agents in the 2026 fa market
Yankee Clipper
Pohle: Your comment is incorrect for two reasons:
1) You assume that caps help parity and the evidence is against this faulty notion, and
2) You assume it will “take money away” from the Yankees, which it will not.
What it will do, however, is implemented parity by mimicking the NFL/NBA style leagues, which will serve only to make the most money for the owners.
You equating a cap directly to parity is wrong. And, since there are ample studies on why MLB has more parity than the other leagues, could that be why I’m not for it? Uh, yes. Moreover, it’s no secret that major markets drive sports funding. It may sadden you, but it’s true nonetheless.
Yankee Clipper
“What it will do, however, is implemented parity by mimicking the NFL/NBA”
That should read “less parity”. My bad.
KiKiCuyler
Whats the most popular sport, by far, in the USA. Right, the one with a strict salary cap. The one where teams from Kansas City and Buffalo played in the AFC Championship game. The one where teams from Tampa, New Orleans, KC, Indianapolis, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Denver have won championships in the last 20 years. The one where the average salary for average players has steadily increased over the years. The one where small market teams end up right at the salary cap. In baseball last year 15 teams were $100 million BELOW the luxury tax, and yet the dim bulb MLBPA keeps fighting for the 50 or so star players to make $200 million,,while the average MLB salary goes nowhere and guys get thrown on the scrap heap after 6 years. The union has lost the thread. If they don’t accept a cap and more revenue sharing, they’ll never get a floor OR a quicker route to free agency, which would help the 90% of their union who aren’t superstars. The NBA has a max contract and a max length of contract, and their stars do fine. Scott Boras has hoodwinked the players for years. And MLB’s problems aren’t in New York or LA, they’re in the 15 markets where fans know they have zero chance. Think about it: Denver, KC, Baltimore, Cinci, Pittsburgh, among others – all incredibly popular NFL teams under the revenue sharing salary cap model. The MLB teams? Does anyone care anymore? Do the math: based on last years’ payrolls, a $180 million cap with a $120 million floor would increase total player compensation by millions. But the union rejected the idea. Why? The losers would be the Max Scherzers and Manny Machados, not the average player.
Yankee Clipper
You’ve written a lot of selective…stuff. Nothing that says the games in the NFL or NBA have more parity or are better because of a cap. You simply said people like the sport better. Well, that doesn’t change with a cap. Baseball is still baseball and football is still football.
You arguing a premise of feelings & subjective assessments – that’s simply your perspective. Who cares if KC or Denver win in the NFL if it blocks several other teams from actually winning?
Essentially, you’re trading selective smaller market success for parity, and arguing it’s better. It’s not, it’s just a worse version of something different.
AHH-Rox
Monfort spends a decent amount for a team with subpar TV revenues. The problem is that he and his GMs have not spent wisely. Spending money doesn’t help if you waste it on Ian Desmond and Wade Davis and Kris Bryant.
Tdat1979
Futurama was right. Baseball is dead, long live Blernball.
stymeedone
The only people that think a long run of major markets not winning would be good for the game are the fans of the currently disadvantaged markets. Its also an interesting assumption, that YOU have, that major market teams wouldn’t do well, if they had to operate on an even playing field. Maybe it wouldn’t come down to NY, Boston, and California every year but I’m sure one or two teams would make it in. The world won’t end if the Yankees miss the playoffs a year or two, here and there.
GCB
I for one want to see all 30 teams compete no matter what category someone has placed them.May the best team win but in a league were all teams try to win and not just say they are.I’m so sick of teams in non-stop rebuild with every excuse they can come up with.
Seamaholic
The Rockies spend more per market size than just about any team. They’re usually top ten anyway. This is a complete myth. The problem isn’t spending, it’s spending wisely.
GCB
They definetly need to find someone to run their team who knows what they’re doing,
case
A’s ownership is worse. Mostly interested in a real estate deal and had to be sanctioned for their treatment of minor leaguers during the pandemic.
MLB’s anti-trust exemption really should come with some financial transparency requirements…
Woods Rider
As a Phillies fan living in Denver, I love Coors Field, it’s a great venue and a true bucketlist item for any real MLB fan.
That said, Monfort is a disgrace. He has no intention of making the Rockies compeitive and cries broke in one of the top 5 exploding markets in the USA.
I’ve said it several times here, he cannt be held accountable by Rockies fans becuase there are so many transplants in Denver that Monfort makes his money off of the visiting ticket sales, not the home team. Rockies fans could boycott and he’d still draw.
TO come out and say .500 is the goal foir the season is amirable because it might be honest and he’s saying what other owners won’t admit to.
That said, .500 should never be the goal and for an owner to admit that should have serious consequences from MLB.
all in the suit that you wear
Large market owners paid more to buy their teams than small market owners. Why would large market owners agree to share profits more evenly when the cost to be an owner is not even?
stymeedone
My guess is their lower payroll will mean more profit, even with the additional sharing.
case
I’m guessing cause they have anti-trust exemptions and need to be seen as a “league” instead of independent businesses.
balloonknots
I couldn’t disagree more. MLB has cheap owners in both large and small markets. You can’t just say a team spends less which makes them cheap. First, what is each teams payroll vs total revenue that’s a better figure. What are other constraints for a team. Are they trying save for a stadium with less net revenues than large market team? Are they trying to set up an international scouting dept and player development structure in order to compete with teams who have more resources. I think large market teams who use the luxury tax as a salary cap are just as bad as a cheap small market owner. You need fair competition to have a healthy league! You need the luxury tax to have fair balance.
BLIN7Y
The thing that seems to always be ignored is the Information that was available to every Owner “Before” they bought the Team. There are consequences in life. Small Market Owners bought Small Market Franchises and got what they Paid for. The same is True about Large Markets.
If you decide to Buy Joe’s Hamburger Joint instead of the McDonalds Franchise, Guess what? You’re probably not going to have equal Revenue with McDonalds “But” you knew that going in.
You don’t Buy the lesser Product and then Scream that the Owners of the Better Product which they Paid more for should now be responsible for Leveling the Revenue Stream with You.
Small Market Owners want to buy less expensive Franchises and be Rewarded with Large Market Revenue without the Large Market Expenses.
GCB
Your argument makes sense in regular business,But sports are completly different,If Mcdonalds or who ever is the best burger joint is nobody cares but in sports having just a few teams competing for the title is not good,A healthy league needs 30 competitive teams,Whether teams don’t try hard enough or can’t is bad for the sport.
Brent97 2
The issue is the same as is in all other non cap sport. You have gm with owners with deep pockets and you have cheap owners. Then you owners like cohen who disregards all rules and flexes is wallet. U know what that fine congrats if you wanna throw if you wanna hand out 13 year deals with 30 to 50 million a season then make it a rule that you can not buy that player out 4 5 years down the road when they bottom out. Ur stuck with for the length.
Take hockey for example the best player in the world and most exciting player that draws crowds is connor mcdavid. He easily makes the nhl millions by himself. Whats the max contract he can carry is 12.5mil a season. Or roughly 12.75% of the salary cap. 12.5mil a season wont even buy you a mediocre 4th starting pitcher. Yes baseball is a larger scale sport that brings in large revenue for owners and i agree its only fair to share that revenue with the players but come on there is no way in hell a 40 something player is worth 46mil a season and a 23 year star for a different sport is only worth 12.5mil max
Blue Baron
@Brent972: Name one rule Cohen has broken or disregarded. You can’t because he hasn’t. Any more dumb comments?
Clepto_
Congratulations David. You win “Stupid Comment of The Month”
thebudlightknight
If there is going to be a max cap, there needs to be a min cap too. It’s a 2-way street to make things competitive. You have to put pressure on the top and the bottom. Otherwise, you don’t solve the issue of competitive rosters.
GCB
I have big problems with lot of the owners but players have caused problems to league by not wanting salary cap and salary floor.I’m not a Mets fan but i can’t begrudge Cohen for doing everything to win.I loved when my team did so for ten years till they turned back to the way they used to be.,It’s up to the rules being put in place to force competiveness for more than just a few teams on a regular basis.
Blue Baron
@GCB: Players don’t and shouldn’t want a salary cap. It pits players against one another by creating a fixed pool of compensation in which for any player to make more, others must make less.
Management has beaten the salary cap drum for years and used the media to convince fans that it will magically fix all that is wrong with the game, but it’s actually only good for the owners as it stops player compensation from growing with profits. It’s bad for fans and horrible for players.
GCB
What’s your solution?Lot of people poo poo other people’s solutions but have none to replace them with.The game is not healthy unless you like seeing Yankees,Dodgers,and several others make playoffs every year and others like Sea go eternity before finally making post season,You have teams like KC that really try to win every 30 years or so,look really good briefly than go back to their usual ways of sucking.Pirates don’t try.Marlins haven’t done much since their 2 championships.Twins can’t do anything in postseason and only immense fortune got them Correa back.Cubs supposed long run ended after brief success.My Tigers are back to being their old selves like before 2006.There’s lot of reasons to think this sport is not in a good place,Is this sport supposed to be only for select teams every year and most fight for the scraps and might me good briefly for a few years if there lucky.It’s not healthy in my books
Blue Baron
@GCB: The salary cap is not your solution. It’s not really a solution at all, for reasons I outlined above. It’s just a panacea pushed by ownership for its own benefit. Furthermore, as we saw in 1994-95, it’s a non-starter in collective bargaining for the MLBPA. Any attempt to bring about a cap would grind negotiations to a halt and basically require a long, unlawful, and probably futile attempt to break and destroy the MLBPA. They tried that with replacement players in 1995 and got nailed by the NLRB for illegal and unfair labor practices.
I’m not sure that an all-encompassing solution is possible or necessary. Ownership periodically jumps up and down whining about how much money is being lost, but never opens the books to prove it while franchise values escalate geometrically and they continue to pay record breaking salaries. Remember, these are the same snake oil salesmen pushing the salary cap narrative.
GCB
Everything you stated is most likely spot on and i tend to strongly believe you are probably right,However what can be done to make game more competitive.Too many teams barely have had chance at a title others basically have lottery ticket when season starts now that mlb is making playoffs like nhl and nba
GCB
What team do you root for and are you happy the way things are?Lots of tanking and obviously not giving best effort in this sport.Money doesn’t guarantee succcess but not spending is almost a certainty you have little chance,
Blue Baron
@GCB: I’ve been a Mets fan since the late 1960s, watching the team rise and fall under ownership/control of Joan Whitney Payson (with a minority stake held by Herbert Walker, uncle of George Herbert Walker Bush), M Donald Grant (who ran my childhood hero Tom Seaver out of New York), Lorinda DeRoulet, Fred Wilpon, Nelson Doubleday, and now Steve Cohen.
After the Wilpons lost money because of their involvement with Bernie Madoff, it certainly felt like they didn’t prioritize winning, perhaps because they could no longer afford to.
GCB
Now i know why you have a big smile beings your a Mets fan,So if you do win this season you will do so with the two aces formerly on my Tigers when my team actually tried to compete at a high level.The only such sustained period they were that good.Probably never see that again for that long again.
Redstitch108* 2
No, Davidk. The real issue is that player salaries are out of control.
Blue Baron
@Redstitch108: Who’s forcing owners to pay salaries at any particular level? Nobody.
GCB
So you enjoy rooting for a team that never really tries.
Seamaholic
Hogwash. Just a convenient thing that big market fans assume so they don’t have to think about it anymore. Do the math.
reflect
In every other sport, small market teams outside of Florida that invested effectively in their business have turned in to large market teams. The Milwaukee Bucks, for example, were once a small market team. The golden state warriors were last or near last in team valuation before the current dynasty began.
So it’s not hogwash. Any MLB team that isn’t making enough revenues simply hasn’t tried hard enough.
kcmark
And the two teams you mentioned play in a league with a salary cap.
reflect
I’m not arguing that fact. But the salary cap won’t make owners try. They have to do that themselves. There are other NBA teams that still don’t try, even with a salary cap.
GCB
Now your the one doing the assuming it sounds like.
DTD/ATL1313
Part of the issue, yes. They are the reason there should be a cap floor. Then you have the Mets, Dodgers, Padres etc that show the need for a cap.
kcmark
No the issue is that MLB does not have a bought and paid for minor league system (the NCAA) developing talent that is a “major league ready” every year. MLB teams must draft and develop their talent.
Pete'sView
I wish that players and owners alike could see that a salary floor AND cap are necessary so that all teams can compete.
DarkSide830
The issue is half the teams dont WANT to compete. That’s not a cap issue and won’t be fully rectified by a floor as the NHL and NBA show.
MuleorAstroMule
A floor would make previously unmoveable bad contracts an attractive asset for non-competitive teams.
DarkSide830
That’s not really something that’s happened in either of the other leagues in question. Only kinda in the NHL but that’s a LTIR thing, which is a vastly different issue.
xtraflamy
It happens in the NBA because teams look for “expiring contracts” all the time and waive (& stretch) the players or buy them out to free up cap space.
The amount of times Westbrook has been traded proves that any contract can be moved in the NBA.
In MLB the amount of years left in a contract is calculated as part of the value (or lack).
xtraflamy
A’s got back on the gravy train again as of this year, I think.
Bud Selig Fan
$450-$700M in revenue vs $250-$325M in revenue is the problem. Once this gets evened out, they will have an opportunity to save the game for the next 100 years.
drasco036
That has to be a joke right?
In what world should the Cubs as an example, who spent a BILLION dollars of their own money to improve the ballpark and fan experience be forced to share equal profits with the A’s who have invest none of their own money and could careless about the fan experience?
Seriously do you think that is a solution? It’s ridiculous! All you would be doing is lining pathetic small market teams pockets while robbing from owners who actually care about their teams and fan experience. To make matters worse, you place less incentive on teams actually improving the product on the field and/or the fan experience.
Building family zones cost money. Improving infrastructure cost money. Improving facilities cost money. Developing tv networks cost money. Money that owners will not spend if they are not reaping the long term benefits of said product.
The Cardinals are a profit sharing team despite playing in a small market because their product is AMAZING! The Padres are finally a profit sharing team because their ownership group decided to improve the fan experience, not only in the product on the field but in the stadium.
Baseball needs to quietly institute a soft floor, look and ask “why?” Why cannot you spend more money? Why cannot you maintain a payroll of 100 million dollars? If they can force teams to pay into the profit sharing pool then they should be able to force teams to open their books and show how much they are making, where their money is going and develop an economic plan or force owners to sell.
I’m perfectly fine with “profit sharing” but I’m not fine with teams like the A’s happily taking the leagues money and sticking it in their owners pocket. The league should force profit sharing recipients to invest portions of that money into the team and to become more profitable by investing in their teams infrastructure.
Pete'sView
Thus the need for a “floor,” with the caveat that X % must be spent on player salaries.
drasco036
Every MLB team earns 100 million annually off MLBs tv deals with Turner and ESPN. That doesn’t include teams splitting 42% of their ticket sales with opposing teams or teams local tv deals. It also doesn’t include “profit sharing” for those “small market” teams either.
balloonknots
Im with you but caps and floors need to be a % of total revenue. Not a flat figure cause mlb markets are not the same and revenue is not shared equally
Seamaholic
There’s no way the lowest budget teams make anywhere near $300m in revenue. I doubt the Pirates, Royals, or Marlins are at much above $220. And half that goes to non-player expenses.
BLIN7Y
I’d take it a Step further. If you as a Owner want to accept Profit Sharing Revenue because you are a Small Market then you should be Required to Open your Books and prove that you can’t support the Team.
If you indeed can’t support the Team then at some Level you should be forced to Sell the Team to an Ownership Group that can afford it.
stymeedone
MLB sees each teams books, even though we dont.
MLB recently questioned the viability of SDP maintaining their high payroll. They also stopped the revenue sharing with the A’s for a period because of what they were doing.
While the St Louis “market” is small, they actually have expanded beyond that market. Though unlikely at this time, it does leave them susceptible to having an expansion team encroach their current fan base.
drasco036
Obviously we don’t know the entire ins and outs of what a team makes but teams split ticket sales pretty evenly and there was 64.5 million tickets sold. That gives each team roughly 100 million in revenue off tickets, then an additional 100 million in MLBs tv deals.
So all teams are pretty much guaranteed 200 million. The Marlins in the past received 70 million in profit sharing so I think 30 million would be pretty achievable in merchandise sales and their local tv deals…
GCB
You can put the Pirates in the same sentence as A’s.,Maybe even Reds,You have other teams that give their fans a bone every 30 years or so then go back to sucking again.Some teams seem to try but don’t have the right people running the team.
GCB
Pirates owner has such a perfect name for someone giving nutting to the fans,
GCB
There have also been other billions teams have gotten in revenue sharing that have been reported on this site to add to what your saying drascoo,I’d give you a billion likes to your comment,I been saying same thing,
GCB
Do you 100% believe in this small-large market stuff.I personally believe it’s a built in excuse to not try.Even if it has some bareing in reality it’s overused as the reason their teams suck and so many fans buy into it in my opinion.My team for the most part hasn’t tried everything to win in lot of the 40 years+ i’ve been a fan.Than suddenly for a 1o year span our owner made us feel like Yankees.Large payrolls.We actually knocked Yankees out of postseason 3 times.Then with owner dying it’s back to their old ways of Mediocrity.
GCB
All these teams get billions in revenue from national tv contracts etc.All reported here on this site.What do they do with it all.Pirates are worst of bunch.Just see their yearly payrolls.It’s been going on for decades.
GCB
You took the words out of my head,Agreed,Agreed,Agreed
brodie-bruce
i agree with darkside on this just look at the sports that have caps and it’s not all that different than bb, this is an ownership problem because your going to have owners that want to win at all cost and will spend and owners that own team because of the money they can print out
GCB
Some don’t want to compete others don’t hire right people to run their teams so as much as they try their still doormats but it’s mostly cheapness in my opinion.
amk1920
MLB players are not going to get rid of the thing that makes them the most powerful sports union, no salary cap. Period
stymeedone
Do they really have the most powerful union? Other sports don’t seem to have anywhere near the number of work stoppages. If the players don’t play, they don’t get paid. It was not a coincidence that the players approved the current contract with MLB, even though the entire negotiating committee for the players voted against it. When you choose to have only the highest paid players doing the bargaining, it not only makes for bad PR, but allows the union brass to lose sight of what the membership really wants.
Blue Baron
@stymeedone: You have no idea what you’re talking about. The NBA got its salary cap by canceling almost a whole season, and the NHL got its cap by nuking an entire season – twice.
joew
@Pete’s
I agree, as long as it is a soft floor/cap. Similar to the current luxury tax for both sides just with stiffer penalties.
Teams rebuild teams push hard. give both sides scaling penalties.. but have those penalties be harder than they are now including loss of draft picks and such.
have the limits based on average 40man payroll at the end of the previous year then +/- the caps on that say 30% each way or something.
It has hits drawbacks for players though while top and low free agent salaries may have less of a gap, i bet we’d see fewer long term 30m aav deals.
phenomenalajs
If there were as strict rules on the use of funds from revenue sharing as there were for penalties on the teams that pay taxes, the league would be in a much better place. I’m not even saying that they have to be dedicated exclusively to player salaries. They could be dedicated to the salaries of all team employees. If they won’t agree to a floor, they’d at least have to
phenomenalajs
agree to make the accounting of the funds received via revenue sharing public.
joew
@Phenomenalajs
It all has to be spent on improving the team. Generally it is but the rules do not specifically say where. Even if they spent it all on the MLB salary it doesn’t really fix anything. If the team had a budget of 50M and they got 10M on sharing then they’d just put that to the 50M that budget. (just making numbers up). Thats where a floor would be nice but still brings up other potential problems
GCB
Unfortunately too much greed on both sides makes this impossible or so it seems.
GCB
So what’s the solution then if it’s not a cap and floor?
RodBecksBurnerAccount
There is no “solution.” There’s going to be inequality among teams. Get over it. Teams will have to find different ways to be competitive.
GCB
Don’t be telling me what to get over.I’ll have my opinion whether you like it or not.You of course love the way things have played out for your team winning 3 World Series.Try being a fan of these other teams that are constant doormats.Pretty sure you didn’t like things for your team before they finally started playing with the big boys.If your team suddenly became clone of Rockies,Pirates,Reds Etc you’d be bitching too.
Lot of teams don’t want to be competitive it’s obvious.
RodBecksBurnerAccount
I’m not a Giants fan. My team has never won a World Series in their history. If your team sucks and won’t invest in the team, you’re free to become a fan of a different team that actually will instead of forcing players to make less money because that’s actually what you are advocating for.
So yes. people like you should be told to get over it more. You want to force equity on society and control it how you wish. That isn’t just an opinion. You want to put force behind it and make people get paid less money because things aren’t going your way.
GCB
You have a pic of Rod Beck with Giants cap so excuse for thinking that was your team.I’m not one of these fans who change teams like underwear.Maybe that’s your thing not mine,Just for your information it’s not about my team it’s for all mlb fans and the league so you struckout trying to figure out my motivation for my opinion,
We’re talking about baseball not society in general that comment was bizzare,You can try telling people what do do.Good luck having someone to listen,So your either a Mariners,Brewers,Rangers.Rays.Padres,Rockies fan,Not sure why it’s a secret,I’ve been a diehard fan for 42 years how bout you.I’m guessing not long since your ok with mediocrity or team swapping when ever the mood strikes,
alwaysgo4two
Nick….you have the previous season delay as the 2023 season.
TheRealMilo
Any committee featuring Big Dick Monfort is destined for ineptitude and failure.
MuleorAstroMule
Who’d have thunk someone as sketchy as Steve Cohen buying the Mets might cause issues.
gbs42
An owner spending to win is an issue?
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
It is if one team sets its own market and blows through all salary caps. There are 29 teams that matter. It can’t turn into basketball, where all but a few teams exceed the cap.
BLIN7Y
“It is if one team sets its own market and blows through all salary caps”
There is No Cap
Seamaholic
What makes Steve Cohen sketchy?
Pete'sView
Cohen’s personal and business background are “sketchy.” Some lowlights:
Cohen’s flagship hedge fund, SAC Capital, was shut down following allegations of insider trading, and the fund was forced to pay nearly $2 billion in fines.
Following the demise of SAC, Steve Cohen was prevented from professionally managing investor money until 2018; at that point, he opened Point72 Asset Management.
SAC Capital’s portfolio manager, Matthew Martoma, was convicted of insider trading and sentenced to nine years in prison.
GCB
Wish he would of bought my team.Although seeing Yankees being 2nd fiddle will be fun
bhambrave
The owners are going to institute a system which is doomed to fail without a cap, and then hold the players’ feet over the fire to get them to let it happen.
sadosfan
I don’t see this happening. With the MASN situation with just 2 teams I don’t see all 32 teams coming to an agreement. Small rev teams demanding more rev, big rev teams trying to keep their money. It’s going to be court cases and arb trials. A mess.
gbs42
32 teams? You must be from the future when expansion has already happened. Can you tell us where the two new teams are located?
RedLegJason
Small market stuff is just a lame excuse. If owners pay up and field a good team, fans will be in the seats and spending money. More revenue will come in. But all they care about is lining their own pockets now instead of in the future.
swinging wood
If all teams field a good team, who wins the games? Will everyone finish .500? If not, there will be some “good” teams and “bad” teams, just like there always has been.
RedLegJason
Yes, but when you don’t even try to be good, then there’s no incentive for the fans, is there? If the fans feel like the team can be good and the owners are working to put a good product out for them, they’ll show up. And they’ll spend money on tickets, food, merch, parking and everything else that generates revenue.
TGH31
It depends what Small Market you are discussing. As a huge Brewers fan our ownership group has spent what it can based on attendance/TV Revenue/Merch/Food. Our ownership group has had years we have been unprofitable trying to field a winner year in and year out. The issue with small markets is one big contract misstep (for my squad it’s the Length and amount of Yelich’s deal) impacts them far more significantly that a big market making a less than ideal long-term commitment. Brewers were near middle of attendance last year (and it was definitely a down year for them in regards to attendance) but still greater than half the teams. Attendance/food/merch make no difference in smaller markets. The revenue comes from your TV deal. That’s the differentiating factor for big market squads.
Ella B
TGH, the Brewers have never had a year that was “unprofitable”. They might have had less profitable years but they’ll always finish the year in the black, unless they start spending like the Mets, that is.
Pete'sView
Yes, but with a “floor,” the competition will determine the winners and losers, rather than big market/small market.
GCB
It would make for a really exiting league and lots of exiting games,Who wants to watch blowout games and seeing a position player pitch.Yes to give you an answer someone has to lose but in this scenario you don’t see teams 30 games behind at the allstar break and lot of times out of pennant race by May.
Cincyfan85
I’m not sure all owners can afford to take that gamble and lose.
RedLegJason
Then sell the team, Bob.
gbs42
The Rays have been good for a while and still struggle to get fans.
RedLegJason
That has more to do with the location of their stadium than anything else though. Traffic/parking is a nightmare.
GCB
That’s a different can of worms,Team run by smart people.Imagine what they could do with a hefty payroll so they could keep their players long term.
Seamaholic
So it’s just a pure coincidence that the big spending teams are all (except one, the Padres) big market teams, and the low spending teams are all in small markets? Amazing. What are the chances.
Ga
Here is the reform. Teams are owned by fans/regions/cities like FC Barcelona, one of the richest teams in the world. And like countless other teams that include the Packers and used to include even the Orioles, who are now controlled by a little mobster family fighting over daddy’s cash and who are blackmailing taxpayers in an effort to get free cash. They are run as NPOs and a GM is hired to run the team to win. All current owners are bought out for the price they paid for the team plus X% — to be determined. No more Oligarchs taking free taxpayer cash. When taxpayers give cash to build stadiums they will OWN the stadiums and teams. No socialism for rich Oligarchs!
swinging wood
It’s going to take a ruthless dictator threating to use or using force to be able to pull that off. And in the end, you’ll have killed something special.
Ga
Not needed. We have the Packers without a dictator. We had the Orioles without a dictator until the Oligarchs got control. The trust exemption goes away. The teams are bought out and the Oligarchs go away. If the Bush family can steal homes for a stadium that was paid for by the taxpayers who had their homes stolen, I guess the American people can get back their national games from a handful of corrupt Oligarchs. It is funny that it is always the Will-like “Conservatives” who are OK for taxpayers to fund socialism for the rich but never to actually have taxpayers own what they already pay for. Regards.
BrisbaneGreg
Barca are 600 million euros in debt and have sold (portions of) future TV rights just to keep going and are under pressure from la liga to trim expenses. So they aren’t a good example. The bundesliga have 50.1 fan ownership rules (but Leipzig don’t somehow) but the same team wins the league all the time (16 of the last 22 including the last 10 in a row).
The small market teams better be careful what they wish for because if they want things to be “fair” and “even” then they (presumably) will lose all the extra draft picks they get. They would then have to spend the extra money they get wisely, and the evidence they could do that is flimsy at best.
gbs42
What are “all the extra draft picks they get?” At most, a few teams get two extra draft picks.
BrisbaneGreg
Sorry I was thinking the all of round A and B so about 15ish picks given to the hard up teams each year. When the picks are in the 30s and 60s they are very valuable and at least in theory they are easier to get hits on.
stymeedone
Yeah, when they seldom get the extra playoff money, its not surprising that there is little evidence of how they would use the extra cash, wisely or unwisely.
Ga
Barca has been one of the richest and most successful teams in the world. Yes, due to the impact of the pandemic (no fans, etc) revenue was down.. However, they are on track to make a profit again (as they have for years) in 2023. And they made a profit in a very difficult 2022. Unlike many other football clubs, the supporters own and operate Barcelona. It is the fourth-most valuable sports team in the world, worth $4.76 billion, and the world’s fourth richest football club in terms of revenue, with an annual turnover of €582.1 million. Anyone for facts instead of Oligarch BS and more socialism for the rich: fcbarcelona.com/en/club/news/2840779/fc-barcelona-…
Buzz Killington
Do a salary cap and pay minor leaguers more. The best players still make a fortune and minor leaguers get some breathing room.
Steve Cohen Owns You
Yeah and let’s increase minimum wage. Why should anyone have to work hard?
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
The only thing I want to know is if Dick Monfort and Peter Seidler will serve on the same committee lol.
In all seriousness though, if economic disparity is such a problem, instead of a salary cap one thing MLB could look at is limiting the number of years a team can sign a player. It’s obvious most teams sign players to these ridiculous long-term contracts to circumvent the luxury tax. So if MLB limited contracts to say 5 years, you’d have two things happen. Some clubs may start offering up a crazy AAV up to $100 million per year (I could even see the Rays getting into a “bidding war” like this if it’s for a year or two). You then use the luxury tax collected off these higher payrolls for revenue sharing purposes, since it’d be harder to sneak under thresholds, and the theory is that there’d be more money available for the lower revenue clubs (a little voodoo economics in baseball). Or you’d see an economic freeze like in 2017. Either way, it sure would be entertaining to see hehe
BLIN7Y
You’d also see Anti-Trust Suits and a Demand from the Players to Recind the MLB Exemption. What you suggest is probably considered Collusion
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Now we’re getting somewhere!
LFGSD619
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Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Ok. Bro get a life. It’s a little weird how you’re obsessing over me in every thread
LFGSD619
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Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
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Joe says...
Headline should read “MLB creates committee do discuss something the MLBPA will never accept.”
Pete'sView
Yeah, and it’s about time both the owners and the players (both of whom do very well financially) take their heads out of their asses to create a sustainable product in which all teams have a legitimate shot at the title.
swinging wood
If they push the salary cap, expect a long work stoppage next time and no resulting salary cap. Just like every other time they’ve tried.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Billionaire owners want to be first in the break room to check coin return slots for change.
tigerdoc616
Players have staunchly opposed a salary cap and if that is the goal of this committee, then they are wasting their time. If they want to work on a more even distribution and a national streaming service without blackouts for our local telecasts, then go for it.
Revenue disparity between teams is massive in baseball compared to other sports leagues. Even if small market owners spend their own money and spend their teams into the red they will not even come close to what the rich owners and rich teams can do. The A’s don’t even have a 1/4 of the payroll the Mets do and Fischer is worth about a 1/4 of what Cohen is. So even if he wants to spend some of his billions on the A’s Cohen can easily trump him.
Seamaholic
The A’s payroll is like 1/10 of the Mets.
Rsox
“There are rich teams and there are poor teams, then there’s fifty feet of crap, and then there’s us”
GCB
So let’s forget about the A’s.Are the Tigers ever gonna stop being doormats of the league.This endless rebuild is ridiculous.It’s not gonna be fun watching our 2 former top pitchers lead the Mets to the promise land if it happens,
Pete'sView
Still, Illitch the Senior put a ton of money into the Tigers when he was alive, but it never coalesced they way he’d hoped. Now the son is trying to rebuild more carefully.
The Tigers have scuffled with injuries and poor drafts, but they will rise again. Unlike the A’s or Pirates, they’re trying.
GCB
I don’t think the Tigers drafting has been a problem at least with pitchers lot of their pitching prospects seem promising but the players they aquired in trades haven’t been great.I’m not exited about lack of moves the new GM has made.He basically got rid of lot of Al Avila’s players and replaced them with more of the same.Al Avila may not have been the best gm ever but the garbage he took from lot of fans was B.S.Illitch ‘s son was lucky to have him as a scapegoat.The Owner should get lot of blame and it was all pointed at Avila.Best move Mike Illitch made was hiring Dave Dombroski and the worst move was firing him.Dombrowski is a proven winner,People place way too much importance on draft picks to use as pieces for future team,But another word for prospect is suspect.Dombrowski took Suspects and traded them for proven players.Lot of people don’t like this method but he proved again by getting Phillies to series after doing it with Mia,Det-2 times.Bos & Phi
Devlsh
Logic alone tells you if every owner spent to their maximum capability, there would still be an enormous discrepancy between those with the deepest pockets and those with shallower ones. Why SHOULDN’T the sport reward those franchises that are best run over those that have the most resources? Isn’t that what sports is all about; rewarding those who do it best and not just those who have the most resources/backing?
Look at any game you played as a child. Does one person start Monopoly or the Game of Life with more money? Do we allow rich kids to start at second base in T-Ball? The same rules and limitations should apply to everyone.
I’ve never understood the fans who seem to think large market/deep pocket owners should be given an advantage over small market/less rich owners while playing the same game. Imagine if, to compensate for that, the Pirates and Royals were permitted to play ten players on the field instead of nine. Would that be fair? Of course not, and we wouldn’t even consider it. Yet, we think it’s acceptable for some teams to outspend others by a multiple just because they can. Yes, some owners COULD spend more, but as we’ve seen with Cohen, even if everyone spent to their maximum ability, there would still be teams with a built in advantage. It’s comparing apple and oranges (with one party having BOTH apples and oranges).
Fans in Kansas City and Cleveland deserve the SAME chance of enjoying a winner as do those in Los Angeles and New York. The current system is flawed, and a salary cap (as exists in other sports) is the sensible answer.
SaltLakeBrave
Won’t happen. Salary Cap is dead in the water, players will never go for it. Just because a team has money does not guarantee that they win. Look at the Mets. Teams that are run well rise to the top.
stymeedone
The Yankees probably have had more bad contracts than any team, but have the resources to absorb them. I would not consider them a well run team (though they are a well run business). Yet they are always in the playoffs. The current system allows poorly run teams with money to rise to the top, way too often.
Evil_MrM
The Mets for years have had incompetent ownership making questionable moves, and it showed. Now that they have real adults making decisions (and have had to spend to fix the problems from previous ownership), small market owners have their panties in a bunch.
Tom
In all honesty, what American pro sport league has a salary cap truly helped? The NFL has had one for decades yet in those nearly 30 years (first introduced in 1994) the NFL, NBA, and MLB have roughly the same amount of teams appearing in and winning the championships.
NFL — 16 Champions, 8 Losers
NBA — 12 Champions, 9 Losers
MLB — 15 Champions, 7 Losers
The A’s, Pirates, Marlins of the world have no shot…but neither does the Texans, Chargers, Cardinals, or Vikings. The disparity of haves and have-nots, despite shared revenue and a salary cap system, is even worse in the NBA. But let’s just pretend a salary cap will suddenly make the Pirates able to compete for a World Series.
case
Not quite as straightforward as that. The NFL and MLB have teams dominating that list that are documented cheaters. Given how many times teams like the Patriots and Astros have been caught it’s common sense that cheating is rampant. Both the NFL and NBA have credible allegations of referees favoring certain, big market teams (footage from the Kings/Lakers makes it pretty obvious). The NBA has players constantly taking pay cuts to be on super teams, an even bigger deal in a sport with only 5 players on the court.
I think the NFL has a pretty good system to encourage competitiveness, but the MLB may have the most potential with umpires now kept in check by strike zone technology and instant replay.
Tom
If there’s cheating in the leagues, that doesn’t negate the parity that still exists. If the Astros can (and did) cheat, so, too, can the Pirates or Reds. If the Patriots cheat, so, too, can the Chargers. Not sure how that argument counters the fact that the salary cap doesn’t really do anything to enhance parity.
And what NBA player truly took a “pay cut” to play on a super team?
GCB
Pirates will continue to suck until they get owner who cares about winning.Lot of these owner s know when they cash out their teams they’ll get enormous profit which is their only motivation,Salary-Cap-Floor can only do so much if team owners don’t care about winning.
BLIN7Y
Ignore that the Cost to Run a Large Market Team in a Big City is quite a Bit more then Running One in Kansas City.
The people that like to talk about Revenue sharing only like to talk about the splitting of it. This would make sense if all Franchises Cost the same Large or Small Market.
The idea that I have to pay Millions more for the Rights to aLarge Market but then have to share Equally the Revenue generated from it with a Owner that paid Millions less for his Franchise is Absurd
GCB
And a salary floor
amk1920
Mark Walter heading a committee that wants to destroy the major competitive advantage his team gets. What a joke
dezpoo
They should start by opening up their books to show their revenue loss first …
stymeedone
Again, MLB does see all the teams books. Its just that we don’t.
Jack Dawkins
It sounds like the small billionaires vs the big billionaires. The present issue confronting this new committee is the probability of Diamond going under. Since half the league is dependent on Diamond, the small billionaires have a chance to complain to the big billionaires about the overall disparity in TV money.
If the owners start talking about a cap, there’s going to be trouble. The big market owners don’t want to give up their spending advantage and the small market owners don’t want a floor beyond minimum wage. Even if they do come to an agreement, they still have to sell it to the players union.
spitball
Time to change the system! This one certainly does not work! The MLBPA is set up to benefit maybe the top 50 players! Why the rest of the players don’t recognize that is crazy. And until the owners are willing to disclose financials we should all suspect that they are fleecing us at every turn.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
This is where the Ivy Leaguers and similar belong, not on the field (Will Venable for one). It may help for MLB economics guys to show signs of intelligence.
User 3595123227
Socialism in any form is doomed to fail and totally stunts any kind of meaning growth. Redistribution of wealth just doesn’t give the incentive to grow a business. Most of you will say I’m wrong for calling it a form of socialism because you don’t know what it is.On paper it sounds like a great idea but it doesn’t work. End if story.
This one belongs to the Reds
Most people that cry foul with socialism don’t know what socialism really is and are acting in their own self interests.
CujoMarlin
That is a really, really weak argument.
terrymesmer
Capitalism leads to oligarchy. You need some redistribution of wealth to keep the mega-rich in check. The United States keep giving tax cuts to the mega-rich, subsidized by mega-deficits, and now you have a bunch of billionaires trying to control every facet of society, some trying to lives without legal restraint.
BLIN7Y
Agreed
goob
@retired/advisory role
Teams rely on one another’s very existence to have a league – it’s a closed competitive loop.
Walmart and Target don’t need one another to exist, on the contrary, they’d each be better off if the other didn’t exist. They’re not joined together in a “league”.
Seeing everything in terms of some kind of hide-bound, socio-economic, ideological light, is simple minded and frankly, it’s either ignorant or lazy or both. End of story.
User 3595123227
The stupidity of these comments……
GCB
I’m sure you think your the only smart one in the bunch don’t cha.
User 3595123227
No but it’s not hard to figure out.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
I will invoke Richard Belzer’s last words which are not allowed here.
ohyeadam
Any team that doesn’t meet an agreed to salary floor will be subject to losses of signing two QO recipients in the next draft
GCB
I’d rather see them lose their team.
jonbluvin
How can they institute a salary cap without revealing their financials? Are the players and fans just supposed to believe a figure the league produces without a way to verify it? I don’t see that happening.
CardsFan57
My take is that it’s extremely positive to hear them speaking in terms of a national product instead of 30 local products. The national and international marketing of the NFL and NBA has been giving them a huge advantage over MLB. NFL and NBA teams have fans scattered all over the country. Very few MLB teams have that. I’d be even more impressed if they started aiming for a more international product and possible merger with some Asian leagues. Instead of trying to expand into smaller and smaller markets, look to grow farther out and into even larger markets. How does a real World Series sound for a start?
This is the same business model MLB has had for 150 years other than TV rights in addition to radio rights and the creation of players union. Start thinking bigger and better or you will die. This business model needs to be rethought if they want to grow the product rather than watch it fizzle as their fan base dies off. The fact that their old fan base currently has the most expendable income of any group is masking the risk of a quick collapse. The NBA and NFL being more centralized businesses with franchise owners seems to be more effective than separate businesses forming a weak centralized structure.
GCB
Personally seeing MLB expand to other countries doesn’t exite me other than more in Canada.
10centBeerNight
…and oh how Union will laugh…
Louholtz22
Green Bay wouldn’t be in the NFL had Halas not saved them years ago. They also would’ve moved, if not for revenue sharing in recent times. It’s a joke when big city teams can afford 3x the salary of smaller city teams. The only way a small city can win is pre-arb guy’s going on a run before they’re gone.
LordD99
AKA The committee to figure out how to transfer money from the teams from the wealthier markets who spend to the wealthier markets who don’t want to spend.
bbatardo
Can’t talk salary cap without talking salary floor.
bloomquist4hof
The union will never accept a cap.
mrkinsm
And if every single MLB team continues to be unwilling to share their books, then why wouldn’t/shouldn’t the union continue to refuse a cap?
bloomquist4hof
I really don’t think there should be a salary cap. I’m not against low payroll teams either but beel like there should be some kind of a floor because of revenue sharing.
GCB
As Metallica sang Sad But True
whyhayzee
Make some form of the revenue to be completely and evenly shared by all teams and some other form of the revenue to be team specific. Out of the shared revenue, a mandatory percentage gets allocated to players’ salaries. There’s your floor. Out of the team specific revenue, have a mandatory percentage allocated to players’ salaries. There’s your ceiling. Players can still earn money on their own as well through independent means like endorsements. This will still advantage some teams with larger markets but create a plan that will not make it too substantial. If we are to know the players’ salaries than we are to know the team’s revenues. It’s like knowing the school budget and all the teachers’ salaries. Make it all public and may the best run operations succeed.
Simm
This is fine for trying to fix some of the tv revenue issues but there is zero chance the players agree to a salary cap…zero.
You also have major issues because of the amount teams have sold for. One of the big reason say the Mets, dodgers and Yankees are worth way way way more then say the reds is because the of revenue differences. The major revenue driver for these teams are the local tv deals. Good luck convincing the big market teams to lose value on their franchises.
Everyone saying well the small market teams can and should spend more to be competitive are also delusional. If the small market teams all started to spend more the big market teams can and will just outbid them. You can have a some of them do it for a period of time but over the long haul the small market teams will still be small market teams. The only thing they will be able to do is overpay for middle or lesser players.
whyhayzee
Well, then saturate the big markets. Does New York have one insurance company? One investment firm? One bank? There used to be three franchises there. Now only two? One in Boston when there used to be two? Chicago still has two. Put more in California. Why does Florida have any? Get them out of there.
Gomez Toth
“When I talk about a more national product,…” Says the man who helped decimated the minor leagues.
Redstitch108* 2
Salary cap, yes please!
BlueSkies_LA
Here’s real reform: Add up all the revenue in baseball, divide by 30. Reward teams for success instead of failure. Problems solved without resorting to caps or floors, and tanking teams become history.
This reform will never come out of the “Economic Reform Committee” because it’s really the “Make More Money for Ownership Committee.”
Scott Kliesen
MLB & MLBPA would all be better off if they would act like partners in business rather than adversaries competing against each other.
Listening to Owners, Manfred, Clark, and Agents like Boras talk about economic matters is akin to listening to Trump and Kim Jong talk about diplomacy. In a word…childish.
AM21
hey owners, open the books.
BLIN7Y
I have a Solution:
Since Small Markets want Revenue Sharing, why stop there? My suggestion if we are talking about Fairness and Parity financially then let’s go all the way.
We split All Revenue between 30 Teams We also Split All Expenses between 30 Teams. That’s parity
Luke Strong
It would destroy MLB because there would be distrust among the owners, for good reason. Most of these guys who became billionaires lied, cheated and stole to get there.
Devlsh
It’s common to talk about players vs. owners, as if the owners are a uniform body with similar interests. They aren’t. Large market/deep pocket teams have little incentive to change the system, because they have an advantage and are still making money hand over fist. That said, there are enough ‘small market”‘teams and owners who can’t keep up with the Cohens of the world that I’m surprised they don’t band together and just say no: we won’t play under unfair rules. Remember, the CBA had to be approved by 2/3 of the teams: Miami, TB, Pitt, Clev, Cin, Milwaukee, St Louis, Colo, Ariz, Kansas City, Oakland, Minnesota, Detroit, and potentially even Atl and SD have the power and reason to collectively say, we won’t participate in a sport that doesn’t allow us an EQUAL chance of winning,
Maybe the solution isn’t a cap; maybe the draft and international signing are redesigned to penalize outlier spending, say, for every $25 million you spend above $200 million, you move down a slot in the draft and forfeit 25% of your international signing money. It’s not THAT different from the recent changes that penalize consistent bottom finishing teams.
There were some pretty creative ideas posted here (I especially liked the one advocating adding more teams to New York and Chicago and Los Angeles).. I hope MLB shows similar creativity.
Ultimately, every team ought to have an equal chance to thrive based on their own merits, not because they have a built in financial advantage.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Let the FREE market rule!
It’s the fans.that need to put.pressure on the owners.
Stop paying such high prices!
If the fans are dumb enough to, well then, let them.
I don’t know, but I would.bet.the Tigers never made more money than when they paid to have a good team. Probably never earned less than when Mr. Hockey spent so little.
Just the facts ma’am …..
They coulda shoulda.woulda hired.the Superfife, none of.this horse.hockey would.be happening…..
kiddhoff
Wow!
This long, spirited debate among many commenters has led me to ponder what’s important in life. All those minutes wasted pressing those alphabet digits just amazes me. No comment I’ve read here has any more importance than the one I’m typing now. All I can say is Wow!
C Yards Jeff
Forget all this cap, floor, ceiling jargon. Just assign a value to a win based on a team’s payroll.
For instance:
One win is assigned the value of the number 1 for teams with payroll between $100 + $200 mllion
.95 for teams with payroll between 201 + 250
.95 between $50 & $100
.90 over 251
.90 under 49
Note: if you are an owner who year in and out can’t break 49, after let’s say 3 years, the other owners can vote to kick you out.
westcoastmetsfan
Revenue sharing in MLB is socialism on a micro level. Socialism encourages mediocrity, let someone else’s hard work line my own pockets. What’s the incentive to field a good team if you don’t have to.
BlueSkies_LA
Socialism? Ha. Ha. Ha.
MLB is one business with 30 owners. Together they decide how to make the most money for themselves and divide up the profits.
Exactly like socialism!
foppert
MLB is across each teams financial position so there is obviously a problem other than being cheap. Cohen bursting through the unwritten rule has caused some consternation, but they will work it out. They are all interested in a healthy game.
brucenewton
Set the cap floor at last years league average payroll. Set the ceiling 20% higher than the floor. Salaries would explode initially. League revenue goes up, cap limits rise the same percentage. Give teams three years to get compliant.
jeffmaz
Instead of salary cap, what about a cap on the price of tickets, beer and food, heck even a cap on the price of caps. Then lower the price the clubs demand from the cable companies and other outlets? This way they are reducing revenue and that will reduce how much the players get.
BlueSkies_LA
And free pizza for everybody!
geoffb1982
The floor for team payroll needs to at least $90 million. If you can’t afford it or simply don’t want to invest that much money in your roster, then clean up and go home. I’m talking you John Fisher, you cheapskate.
GCB
$90 million is too low nowadays it should be way higher over in my opinion
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Why don’t people understand there ALREADY IS A FLOOR.
It is the minimum salary x 26.
Cincyfan85
Bring on the cap baby!
Darth Alru
Hallelujah! Baseball is at least 20 years behind of every other major sport and finally MLB owners got it.
BlueSkies_LA
What are they getting, and what are they going to do about what they get?
James Midway
Revenue sharing is stupid. Why should teams that actually try have to pick up the bill for those that are just there to make a quick buck? This lets all the garbage owners continue to be garbage owners, in fact it encourages it.
BlueSkies_LA
The stupid part of revenue sharing is MLB doesn’t have the nuts do enough of it, and they reward failure. The revenue pie should be divided equally into 30 shares, and teams rewarded for succeeding with high draft picks and postseason revenue.
Problem fixed.
Old York
We need regulation leagues in MLB. Tired of garbage time teams crying poverty because they can’t be bothered to put together a proper team and invest in player development. Rays do a great job of that.
Last year, we could have dumped the following teams to regulation league.
Pittsburgh Pirates
Cincinnati Reds
Oakland Athletics
Washington Nationals
Would give those teams incentives to not be regulated to a lower league.
James Midway
I would love this, but we will never see it in any US sport.