Feb. 16: Peralta’s incentives are based on days on the active roster, reports Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic. Peralta will get $500K for 90, 120 and 150 days on the active roster.
Feb. 10: The Dodgers are adding one of the top remaining free agent outfielders, agreeing to terms with David Peralta on a one-year deal. The contract, which is pending a physical, reportedly guarantees the ACES client $6.5MM and could max out at $8MM if Peralta reaches all his incentives.
Peralta heads back to the NL West, where he spent the first eight and a half years of his big league career with the Diamondbacks. The left-handed hitter broke out with a .312/.371/.522 showing in 2015 to secure the primary left field job in the desert. He’d only once recapture quite that level when he hit 30 homers in 2018 but typically posted slightly above-average offensive numbers while playing quality defense.
Things have been fairly consistent over the past four seasons, with the Venezuela native putting up offensive numbers within the realm of league average. Going back to the start of the 2019 season, he’s a .266/.329/.425 hitter in over 1600 plate appearances. That production checks in two percentage points above league average, as measured by wRC+. Peralta typically walks around a league average rate, makes a decent amount of contact and has averaged a 13-homer pace per 600 plate appearances over that stretch.
It seemed as if he might take a step forward early in his age-34 campaign. Peralta seemingly made a concerted effort to elevate the ball more, hitting fly balls at a 44.9% clip in his first 87 games after never previously topping a 31% rate in a season. That came with a slight uptick in strikeouts but also a notable jump in power, as he hit 12 homers with a solid .248/.316/.460 line through 310 trips to the dish. With the Diamondbacks out of contention and wanting to get a look at a number of promising controllable outfield options, they dealt Peralta to the Rays a little before the summer deadline.
Peralta’s newfound power didn’t translate to his time in Tampa Bay. He didn’t connect on a single homer in 47 contests for the Rays, stumbling to a .255/.317/.335 line over 180 plate appearances. His fly-ball percentage dropped ten points, and while his 34.7% rate as a Ray would’ve still represented a career high before last season, it was much more in line with his previous marks. Between the two clubs, the veteran combined for a .251/.316/.415 line over 490 trips.
It’s possible back discomfort played a role in Peralta’s late-season drop in production. Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times recently reported he underwent an offseason surgery to repair a herniated disc in his lower back. There’s no indication that’ll affect his readiness for spring camp and provides some hope he might be able to recapture his first-half form with better health.
Peralta adds an experienced lefty bat to a corner outfield mix that had seemed fairly uncertain aside from Mookie Betts. Chris Taylor had his worst season as a Dodger last year with a strikeout rate exceeding 35%. He’ll surely get an opportunity to bounce back but might be better suited for his typical multi-positional role than everyday work in left field. Center field looks to fall to Trayce Thompson, who had a huge .256/.353/.507 line in a half-season last year but struck out at a 36.5% clip himself.
Highly-regarded prospect James Outman could also secure some playing time after a big season in the upper minors. The 25-year-old only has four games of big league experience so far, however. Veterans Jason Heyward, Bradley Zimmer and Steven Duggar will be in camp as non-roster invitees. Manager Dave Roberts recently indicated on a podcast appearance with ESPN’s Buster Olney that Heyward had a strong chance of making the club, though that’d presumably be in a depth capacity.
Peralta can take some at-bats from Taylor and/or Thompson against right-handed pitching while perhaps giving the club the freedom to start Outman back with Triple-A Oklahoma City. Peralta has long been a reliable option with the platoon advantage and typically plays strong left field defense. Public metrics were mixed on his glovework in 2022 — Defensive Runs Saved estimated he was five runs below average, while Statcast graded him five runs above par — but he should at least offer competent work on that side of the ball.
It’s a fairly modest roll of the dice from a financial perspective. Tacking on Peralta’s salary brings Los Angeles’ projected 2023 payroll around $227MM, as calculated by Roster Resource. The organization’s luxury tax ledger is now up to about $243MM, taking them more than $10MM above the base threshold. The Dodgers are taxed at a 50% rate on any spending between $233MM and $253MM as a team that’s set to pay the tax for a third consecutive season. The total acquisition cost for Peralta is roughly $9.75MM — $6.5MM in salary plus $3.25MM in fees — and brings the Dodgers within $10MM of the second threshold and its associated heightened penalties.
That’s not nothing, though it’s not a huge outlay for a franchise that spent an MLB-most $32.4MM in luxury payments last year. The Dodgers flirted with the possibility of dipping below the threshold this winter, a move that would’ve been mostly about resetting their payor status and dodging repeat penalties if they went back over next offseason. Those hopes mostly evaporated once Trevor Bauer’s suspension was reduced on appeal and his salary came back on the books. President of baseball operations Andrew Friedman confirmed last week the club was not looking to avoid the tax as they fight for another division title, and they’ve backed that up by bringing Peralta aboard.
With Peralta headed to L.A., the free agent corner outfield market thins out even further. Jurickson Profar is the clear top player still remaining, while platoon types like Tyler Naquin and Ben Gamel are also unsigned. The Yankees have been linked to left field help, Peralta included, at times this offseason but might be up against their spending limit. The Rangers are still scouring the corner outfield market, while teams like the Braves and White Sox have some question marks but appear likely to roll with their in-house options at this point.
Robert Murray of FanSided first reported the Dodgers and Peralta were in agreement. Jeff Passan of ESPN reported it was a one-year, $6.5MM guarantee that could max out at $8MM.
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More than I would have thought he’d get. Still another solid signing for the Dodgers as Vargas develops for another year.
vargas is playing 2nd base
Maybe his thought is that Taylor plays more 2B with Peralta in LF
^This. It’ll be a typical Dodgers hodgepodge this year at 2B. Vargas will eventually end up in a corner spot.
Maybe if/when Muncy departs. His D is solid at third, but will he hit enough?
Either way, Peralta is a depth LHB OF piece at this point in his career.
Muncy played injured last year, he should go back to his regulars numbers this year
Vargas will be a regular in the lineup this year. There’s not much doubt about that. If he doesn’t stick at 2B they’ll move him elsewhere, but he’s not going back to Triple-A.
Taking Vargas out of the equation hardly makes it a “hodgepodge,” it simply hands the everyday job to Taylor, which is something the Dodgers have no interest in doing. Vargas will get his shot.
That glove isn’t sticking at 2b long term. None of Outman, Hayward and Trayce are staying long either. Barring further moves, realistically with Muncy at 3rd, Peralta’s signing is blocking Vargas. It was a mix and match and will continue to be so.
You can be in the majors and still have a development year.
Taylor better hit better than last year or he will be riding the bench. He strikes out a lot, especially with a runner in the scoring position.
This was the Dodger alignment prior to today:
DH Martinez
C Smith
1B Freeman
2B Vargas/Taylor
3B Muncy
SS Lux/Rojas
LF Vargas/Taylor
CF Thompson/Outman
RF Betts
Adding Peralta hardly displaces Vargas. If it displaces anyone it’s Outman, but more likely it simple adds depth. Taylor is now free to be utilized around the field, per usual.
No.
I disagree. Dodgers have had a very underwhelming off-season, all things considered.
Didn’t sign any of the big guns yet patched their holes and added depth while only giving up money and unneeded assets. Underwhelming from a fan’s perspective, productive from a GM’s.
I’m not a Dodgers fan but they lost Turner and replaced with Martinez, lost Trea Turner. Those two alone hurt them. There’s probably more but I’m going off memory.
I know JTurner had a down season but I think he’s better than Martinez because he can actually play the field
If you think Rojas is going to replace Turner, you’re out of your mind
I wouldn’t say patching holes is the same thing as replacing lost assets. By adding JDM, Thor, trading for Rojas and getting rid of Bauer, they’ve made meaningful advances to their squad overall in the best way possible.
The Dodgers had one of the biggest free agent classes in recent memory. The only player they re-signed was Kershaw. Their moves have been under the radar, and yet they didn’t commit big money to the guys that’ll eventually get overpaid, which is the biggest win.
Losing Bellinger, JT, and Trea along with Anderson and the solid bench pieces they had was going to be tough. They “weathered the storm,” didn’t catch the bait with the long-term big boys, and got rid of one of the biggest distractions in sports. That’s efficiency and solid maneuvering of a front office.
I’m just very surprised at their direction. Yes, their farm system is great, but signing the big name players has been what propelled them to the postseason the last decade. Sure, it doesn’t get them the World Series every time, but their chance increases the better the players they sign. Maybe Friedman wants a different approach, I don’t know, but I could see San Diego coming on top because they are making the biggest strides right now. Maybe not a postseason winning team, but the division is what you have to win first and I think Dodgers took a step back in that regards.
If you think the Dodgers have been big-money spenders, you are wrong. I can see why you’d feel that way, considering the big names that stop by LA every year. The only long-term singings have been Mookie and Freeman. Everyone else; Machado, Darvish, Trea, Scherzer, have been through trades for a short period of time. They run a solid front office. That is the truth.
The Dodgers have been one of the best teams in baseball for a long time. Their moves this off-season have been on par if not a bit more than should be in their overall position.
I mostly agree with you, but the Dodgers could probably see the downward trajectory in Turner’s fielding ability. By 2024, Turner probably would be as useless in the field as Martinez. I still would have preferred to keep him as a fan favorite. As for Trea, they replaced him a year early with Freddie.
How does Freeman replace Trea?
Pwndroia
They spent the money on Freeman the year before that they could have saved to pay of good chunk of what Trea will cost. I think that was a good move.
I think Trea was a better asset. A tougher position to fill, astolen base guy, and I just think Freeman will decline soon enough. We shall see. In the now, Freeman was pretty good, but in a couple years? I don’t know.
Freeman can DH if needed as he ages when Trea loses his wheels he’ll decline faster.
JTurner was in the top ten of ave. in NL. That is not a down season.
He caught up in the second half.
I agree they haven’t made very many “big splashes”. But what have the “big splashes” gotten them recently? All that seems to do is add pressure to the expectations.
As it stands now, they still have a very good chance of winning division and making playoffs, which are now a crap shoot anyway.
Absolutely, I agree they are still set to win but I think they are not as great as a postseason team as much. Their lineup isn’t as lethal as what it once was.
I mean, we saw San Diego spend big last year and this year and they beat the Dodgers, so I’m not saying Dodgers are a guarantee to win anything either.
If the Dodgers could have signed Judge they definitely would have. The cost per performance is heavily weighted towards acquiring him.
Pressure, in the right circumstances, is beneficial overall, unless you crumble under it like Sonny Gray or Joey Gallo in New York. LA isn’t as harsh. Baseball teams are more concerned about putting the best rosters on the field and the best systems internally.
The Dodgers continue to have one of the best rosters in the league, and with their team of efficiency, experience and overall skill level, will be a playoff team and will be so for the foreseeable future.
But I think the Padres may best them this year. Dodgers have a lot of if’s. Still postseason bound but a lot of if’s.
Elaborate?
Since you won’t elaborate but respond to others…
If you’re a baseball executive. You will always have “ifs.” Our (I say that because I’m a sox fan) Red Sox have more problems than the Dodgers. Padres, even with all that money, will continue to have problems. The Dodgers, the best team in baseball, will have problems.
The Dodgers just have less problems than the other teams, and the ability to fulfill them with money. It’s very clear that the other teams don’t just troll about; they know what they are doing.
To say that they are alone in their problems wouldn’t be accurate. Thankfully, they have the willpower and ability to be the best team in baseball they can be.
As of right now, the Dodgers are a better team. The Padres may be slightly better this year. However, as with all young teams, they will grow older and the Dodgers will eventually pass them in time, unless they can procure multiple playoff appearances and generate more revenue.
You can always have “ifs,” but more important is how you solve them.
I’ve responded to your posts and I agree. Everyone has “if’s” and Dodgers probably have less than others, but I believe they made more “if’s” this off-season than the last ten. I do not think they are a better team going into 2023.
no!!!!!!!!
Holy overpay Batman
Not for the Dodgers.
Wow!!!
Absolutely an overpay. He was pretty much useless after the Rays acquired him. Not sure how much he has left.
Technically, might only be a slight overpay. Value of 1 WAR per fangraphs last season was $8.5M. Peralta had a .7 WAR last year which is worth about $6M. Peralta had a 120 OPS+ against righties so if he’s strictly seems okay while they see what Outman, Vargas and company develop into.
My worry is if Trayce comes back to earth, Taylor continues to swing-and-miss, and the kids aren’t ready, cuz if that’s the case, then Peralta definitely isn’t the answer.
Great take about Trayce trending to his mean. CT3 is going to be key.
The Dodgers seem to have a way of getting the most out of ‘washed up’ players. I won’t be surprised if Peralta does very well for them at all.
Example? I don’t see it
Pujols for one. They can figure out how and when to maximize talent.
These are the types of contracts the large markets throw out that ruins it for the 20 teams on the small market side.
Good lord. He’s making less than Wil Myers and they’re basically the same player value-wise.
Competition.
It’s a one year deal with a decent chunk incentivized, this contract is not the problem. See Tatis and Judge and Trout and such for the problem contracts.
I don’t think this contract is holding the Reds down from contention.
Peralta hit .191 at Tropicana. He isn’t the first Ray player to struggle hitting/seeing the ball in that stadium. Plus, it has been mentioned his back was bothering him.
Sometimes the California teams need to with taxes
Who doesn’t want to pay those taxes to live in California though?
I used to tell my Mom in Southern California that in South Dakota that you could get a turkey sandwich at the Red Owl for 99 cents. She would always respond, yeah, but you have to go to South Dakota to get it.
Haha. But, why would you only tell her that in Southern California?
Yep. And we don’t have snowy winters, tornadoes, hurricanes or bad humidity.
But a ton of homeless
@kellin how bout those earthquakes though?
I’m gonna lace up my cleats, call his agent, and see if he can get me a contract. He did well for his client.
Was looking forward to seeing Outman out there. Now they’ll platoon if he even makes the opening day roster.
Outman has had a K% 25% or higher at every level of pro ball. That spikes in the majors (43% last season in a small sample size). Let’s see him get that down to about 20% in AAA to start the season, then give him the call up.
Ya, the K’s are ugly. But those homers are oh so nice! Peralta’s just so replacement level at this point. He doesn’t bring much excitement to the table.
To Outman’s credit, he had a K% of 29% at Double-A and cut that down to 25% when moved to Triple-A.
The dodgers have already said that Vargus (2B) and Outman ( CF) would have a good runway and will be on the opening-day roster.
You’re OUT-man.
Spend the summer in AAA
Only makes sense if they are going to attach a prospect and trade Chris Taylor’s contract.
Or if CT or Mookie could play CF
CT3 can play 2B … Vargas and Outman can develop more in OKC!
Vargas is better than CT now and I am not sure Outman has a role except as a CF.
Flyin Hawaiian,
I will cut you some slack because I like Victorino, but “buddy”, posters should expect to come across opinions different than their own without calling the poster “stupid”. I think just as many people would agree with me that Vargas will be more potent on Opening Day as CT as would disagree.
I would tend to agree with Shane here that Taylor is a stronger player than Vargas right now. That will likely change in a year. However, the Dodgers need to understand that they will face criticism for their decisions and be able to deal with their depth issues properly rather than prematurely summoning a David Peralta from the free agency block. They have to pay up to 8m when clearly he has other places to go.
That being said, Vargas needs to be in the big league roster to gain development and will likely play every day, and rightfully so. I think the Peralta deal is a slight overpay and ultimately a good deal that benefits the Dodgers ever so slightly.
Taylor(CT3) is a strikeout machine and makes too many out on the basepaths. Vargus and outman are both faster than Taylor..
It sounds like the FO is planning for Vargas to contribute this year regularly in Elysian Park (and on the road).
The Dodgers are obviously not sold on Thompson being their everyday CF, so they signed Peralta to play LF and opened up the opportunity for either CT or Mookie to slide to CF if Thompson cannot perform up to expectations. I still can’t believe LA let Kiké go to Boston in free agency. He’d be a big part of the team in 2023 had they retained him.
Hernandez was part of the Betts trade along with Verdugo.
No, only Verdugo was. Hernandez left as a FA.
Kiki was not part of the Mookie trade. He signed as a free agent. Miss him
They should not be sold on Thompson as their everyday CF, he is matchup type guy only who is at his best in a limited role.
Outman will be the everyday cf. Great defense and will hit more than Bellinger did in the last 2 years.
Yeah I thought they were trying to get under luxury tax number. They might have to deal off Taylor and a couple prospects or Treinen and a prospect.
They have already stated they are no longer trying to do that… that went out the window when they traded for Rojas.
I wouldn’t have thought it likely before, but now if both of Hayward and Peralta work out, I can see them trying to move Taylor. Not now, but down the road apiece. He needs to show that his awful 2022 season was an outlier to have much trade potential.
Peralta in LF, Taylor in CF, Betts in RF. Thompson in LF against lefties and in CF when Taylor is on the Infield
It would be nice if teams didn’t have to rely on the platoon system. It seems there are a lot of players who can only hit against righties or lefties, or have to be taken out for defensive players. The all-around players are becoming few and far between.
Its a self created reliance as once upon a time if your starting position players hit LH they were still in the lineup against lefty pitchers. The over reliance on analytics says that LH hitters shouldn’t learn how to hit same handed pitching
Wow , did they notice he’s 35+ and hit .167 vs lefties ?? His agent should get half of that . Who were they bidding against ?
This guy named retirement
He’ll platoon. Dodgers should be concerned with 3 homers, .229avg for career in Dodger stadium.195 abs. Not good
Sarunas-Keep in mind that those stats in Dodger Stadium were against the Dodger’s pitching staff..which has been top 10 every year since then.
I’m aware. But if he’s good, he’s good. 3 homers in 60 games ain’t that good. Freeman hit very well there prior to 2022 (over .300) and of course MANY others have as well. Yes, Freeman is a great hitter no matter where but that’s kinda the point. Peralta struggles there in comparison to other great hitters. You’re point is good 1strnd. In the end he’ll platoon anyway.
Yeah but now he gets to face D Back pitching in Dodger stadium, and not Dodger pitching.
He hit .280 vs dodgers in AZ and .226 vs dodgers in LA. LA great pitchers but they’re not sandy Koufax vs every single hitter. cmon geez. Simple facts are that many hitters perform differently in different ballparks vs good/bad pitchers.. Paul Goldschmidt owned Tim Lincecum, even during Lincecums Cy young seasons. obviously he struggled with other pitchers. You people act like the dodger staff is hof 1 thru 5. Don’t get me wrong, they’re good, but they don’t throw 1 hitters every game in LA. This discussion relates to Peralta and how he’ll fare in LA. I expect, no matter who’s pitching, that his numbers will be below avg.
I seem to remember the Dodgers getting a lot of flack for signing Justin Turner after a poor showing with the Mets. Turner was much younger when he signed with LA of course (29 or 30) but everyone thought it was a bad decision. That was the start of LA bringing in veterans who weren’t highly thought of but LA was able to fix most of them and turn them into above average players. Peralta could very well be the next LA reclamation project that works out much better than anticipated. If he doesn’t, then it’s only a one year deal.
But Dorothy, Turner was 29 when LA got him. Peralta turns36 in August
This flack I do not remember. Signing JT was taking a flier for sure but it was a very low-risk flier. Same as with Taylor and Muncy.
Colletti got Turner to sign a minor league deal with an invite to ST. Couldn’t have asked for more.
Sad snek sounds 🙁
Veteran presents.
I look for a rebound season then from Peralta.
“The deal is pending a physical.”
We wait in anticipation… Is his leg healthy enough?
Dodgers platooning in LF and CF in 2023: Peralta/Thompson; Outman or Heyward/Taylor?
Heyward is not going to make the team now that they added Rojas (and extended him) and added Peralta. So he will just be in AAA until his opt out date and then walk away a FA.
And let’s be clear – Zimmer will NOT make this team. Everyone knows he can’t hit, has never hit, and never will hit. Great personality, teammate, blah blah blah. Very capable defensive OF, just keep him away from the plate.
Peralta probably cost Heyward a spot on the ML roster.
where is it written all diamondbacks’ veteran players must go to the dodgers to end their career? It’s a rule, just not sure where it’s written
Is Peralta any more valuable than Heyward at this point in their respective careers. Both players seem like they are basically washed up. Heyward is still a decent defender and free. Can’t see how both lefty veterans make the Dodgers. Dumping Heyward if all the young guys look good is a lot easier than eating Peralta’s contract.
Dodgers with their so-called top Minor League System seem awfully afraid to turn over ABs to their young players. Guys like Busch and Outman are closer to 30 than 20, to give Peralta even a couple hundred ABs at the expense of young players seems like a travesty.
Heyward is decidedly replacement-level. Peralta can still hit at a league-average clip.
Your other point is basically the Dodgers’ dilemma every year. All of these decent minor leaguers seem to go to Quad-A purgatory due to the depth on the current roster.
The best thing to do is trade them at their peak for quality pieces or hand over the reigns ie Lux Gonsolin and tbd Vargas. Many will fail to develop because of the obvious surplus talent.
Ultimately though this is a good problem to have as this means the big league team is performing successfully.
Peralta is definitely more valuable than Heyward. Peralta is still a good hitter against righties, and that’s a skill basically every team can use. Heyward is a plus defender, but only in a corner, and with how horrible he’s hit the last two years that skillset isn’t good for anything more than a minor league depth option on a contending team
Heyward makes a fine late inning defensive replacement on a playoff team. Probably has more value in October, in that role, than doing anything else at any other point in the season.
Busch and Outman are each 25. How are they closer to 30 than 20?
Math
Unless it’s their 25th birthday, they are closer to 30 than 20.
Terrible. Waste of resources. WTF are they thinking?
They can afford it, blocks other teams from negotiating contracts with similar players and adds depth to an already loaded roster.
The Dodgers will end up being sneaky good but it looks like the Padres have separated themselves from the pack this offseason. Just remember they beat them last year too. fantasy.espn.com/baseball/league/join?leagueId=205…
Dodgers will cruise to 100 wins. Padres will be in the mid 90s
Dodgers need a healthy Urias, Gonsolin and Kershaw because May and Thor are less certain. Would have liked Wacha for depth over Peralta but Dodgers avoid multi-year deals. Mistake to let Tyler Anderson go. Stone, Miller and Pepiot could all be in the bigs in 2024. I would take even money on the Dodgers winning 95 and even money on the Padres, Mets, Phillies and Braves winning 95.
The Dodger slander is old…we aren’t done making moves and maybe we should play for the wildcard and then will actually fly under the radar and maybe win It all?
Love to the Freight Train from AZ. Peralta was a fan favorite here. We wish him well. The reasons he left AZ were named Corbin Carroll, Daulton Varsho, Alex Thomas and Jake McCarthy, all LHH like Peralta.
To be more specific, “We wish him well…except when the Dbacks are playing the Dodgers!”
Definitely can respect that
Why tho
If you dks, you dks
Look at us trying to make up for all that time wasted
BOOOO Lame. Dodgers are the worst. ugh.. this only means I won’t be watching David Peralta this year… smh what a shame.
Peralta’s not a bad player, but I’d rather the Yankees made Cabrera the starting left fielder.
I like this signing. Depth is hugely important.
I’m no baseball expert and I trust Friedman. And I really don’t care about what the Dodgers’ spend is. The franchise is worth billions. What they spend is their business; I’m not qualified to comment. The least smart person in the front office is 100.
Go Dodgers!
I always liked this guy. Didn’t picture him in LA, though. He’s better than Heyward, but too similar.
As a Padres guy, this singing SUCKS! Peralta freaking smashes the Padres. I get pumped because JT’s gone and I don’t have to deal with his antics anymore. Now the Doyers go and sign this joker.
I’ll give you this one, nice under the radar move Doyers!
Antics?
Jokes buddy! He smashed the Padres at the plate as well. Hence, the “antics” comment.
Since the word means he behaved foolishly, you fooled me with what you meant by it.
Fun Fact – Senger Guerreiro signed with cards as an 18 y/o pitcher. 2 years later was cut with a bum shoulder. Disappeared for 3 seasons, then played 2 1/2 seasons of indy ball as an outfielder before signing on with the Dbags and starting in their outfield the following year. Earned the nickname freight train along the way. I guess he found something to fix that shoulder for a while
My dude, the DBags thing has been unfunny, unoriginal, and untrue for quite some time; they’re generally loaded up with good character guys and good teammates in general (not to mention the fanbase being much more “mild-mannered” comparatively to LA, to put it nicely).
You don’t see me calling the Dodgers the LA Diggers for the proficiency with which they dig their own grave when it actually matters; try to keep the smart***ery minimal unless you’re actually going to say something smart.
There’s no need to speak disrespectfully about people that have done nothing to deserve disrespect. The Dodgers have a team that will be fun to watch and competitive, and the DBacks have also assembled a club that will be fun to watch (and potentially competitive under the new changes). Y’all should also be happy that they’re not playing each other as many times (not nearly as happy as we are lol).
On note of Peralta during that gap; he worked mostly with his father on his swing during the time (who had encouraged him to keep swinging even when he was focused on pitching). He’s a really hard-nosed player (and super high energy), but y’all should’ve seen him play enough to know that already, though lol.
Thanks for this comment. All the talking smack is definitely not the best part of these discussions.
No problem! I know in general Dodgers fans are very knowledgeable and generally respectful; I lived in LA for 5 years and went to a handful of DBacks games at Dodgers Stadium (of course in gear).
That was some of the most good-natured trash talk I’ve ever experienced lol. I elbowed my buddy one time and told him “Ahmed is gonna hit a HR to tie the game right here” and sure enough he did; two innings later he elbowed me back and said “Gonzalez is gonna hit a HR to go ahead right here”, and sure enough he did lol. We couldn’t help but laugh, but the folks within earshot got a giggle too.
Nothing bad happened (in fact one dude bought me a beer), there was no Stow incident (I’m not equating a “DBags” comment to that misfortune); the point being that it’s a very small minority of the fans that actually bring about a bad reputation. I don’t like seeing that, and feel it’s best to try to nip it in the bud. This is all entertainment.
I’m fine with trash talk (I actually love it), but only within proper context. The Houston Asterisks is funny because there’s some truth to it, there really is no truth to the “DBags” sentiment.
To hear the fans in some other cities tell it, LA fans are just too laid back. I don’t know about that but the only really memorable bad time I’ve had with a fan at Dodger Stadium in all the years I’ve been going there was an inter-league game against the Yankees. A guy sitting right behind us was so nonstop foul and obnoxious that eventually my wife got totally fed up and turned around and told him to put a sock in it. Yep, a Yankees fan.
All the talking smack? You guys like 5 or 55 lol.
First off, Angel fan here. Second the Dbags have sucked baseballs since stewrt and la Russa ruined that team. A bag is another word for base. My local baseball team is named the dirtbags. You think they go home and cry on mlb trade rumors like you clearly do? That was an insult sir. What I wrote about Peralta was he probably went home and got some help along the way the 3 years he was out of baseball. Doyers will again be on top of the dbags in the standings.
(Thinks he needed to prove the point.)
Hey put a sock in it!
I don’t know what reality you live in in which implying someone is a gravedigger is more insulting than implying someone is a dirtbag, but it sure isn’t this one. Not everything that offends you is a slur lmfao.
That’s not me crying about anything, that’s me generously taking the time to explain something that you don’t seem to understand (so you don’t hurl an insult at the wrong person and sit there dumbfounded while you’re getting man handled; obviously not by me, I just enjoy playing by the Rules of Engagement that you happened to set lol).
I don’t disagree with the MLB team sucking for a while, but the one thing they’ve consistently done well is look out for the community (by making baseball more accessible in lower income communities, making sure players stay available to younger fans, and ensuring one of the more affordable MLB experiences for fans; even in spite of all of our gripes).
Ken Kendrick is a shady dude, but FO/players overall have gone out there and played hard without complaint (Mike Hazen kept doing his job and making time for his wife while she was on her literal death bed) or having comparable resources to the division competition. Not once did they make excuses or present delusions like the Rockies.
Insinuating that the organization/fandom are dirtbags is an insult, whether you acknowledge it as such or not. You don’t just decide how people comprehend what you’re saying, words have meanings for a reason.
You insulted me, I attempted to insult you in turn (but apparently you’re an Angels fan; which is SO much more ammunition, just saying). And then I moved on to address what you said. It never was anything personal, and there never will be hard feelings on my end.
That’s just the way things always have worked; all I’m saying is that if you want to be a smart*** you can’t be a dumb***. Until you figure out how this communication thing works, you’re more of the latter than the former (an actual insult for your time good sir; I can see why you throw these things around so casually, this is fun!)
Hope you have a nice day! (No sarcasm)
“I don’t know what reality you live in in which implying someone is a gravedigger is more insulting than implying someone is a dirtbag, but it sure isn’t this one. Not everything that offends you is a slur lmfao.”
What in the eff is your point? You jump on my comment about the guy being out of ball for 5 seasons and start accusing me of being offended that you can’t handle the word dbag. Guy no one is reading your 13 paragraph “comment” Yeah Angel fan baby.. bring it dbag lol
“dirt·bag
/ˈdərtbaɡ/
nounDEROGATORY•INFORMAL
a very unkempt or unpleasant person”
“slang. : a dirty, unkempt, or contemptible person.”
Since you require quotes to understand, the point is that you’re directing what are objectively insults and acting surprised when people respond in turn.
Your inability to grasp a clearly laid out point says more about you than me 😉
And I thought the Arizona schooling system was bad…
slang. : a dirty, unkempt, or contemptible person
Long Beach State Dirtbags baseball – baseball players who get dirty sliding into bases aka bags.
Cant handle slang in your arizona school system either. Did you sit in the principal office because your mom dressed you too? Sir stay clear of my town. We are full of dirt bags. Sorry you were insulted Chris russo
You were at no point talking about Long Beach State when you were using it, now were you? Were you so sheltered that you don’t understand common insults? Or is the ignorance not actually acting? If so, I’m terribly sorry for laughing at your misfortune 😉
I lived in Koreatown/Midtown area of LA for 5 years and took trips to Long Beach County fairly frequently; I’ve seen “your town”, don’t try to act hard lmfao.
Listen here dbag.. I’m talking about you and the kind of a guy that chooses to live in Koreatown. The only thing hard is between your legs when you hit that post comment button. You live in Arizona. I win.
If you must know why I stayed in K-Town, my aunt ran a quite nice hostel that I got to stay at for free (international girls always rolling through was an added bonus).
Ah yes, the terrible state of Arizona that Californians are flocking to in droves. Keep telling yourself those things.
And you’re welcome to concern yourself with what’s between my legs; I’d consider it a bit weird, but I know how y’all handle business in the LBC 😉
Come on, aren’t you having fun? Lmfao
Oh I bet you do know long beach! Go doyers!
Had to give you the thumbs up for what had to be an advertent self-own; you’re an amusing guy lol
Hope you didn’t take anything personal, because I sure didn’t. I just enjoy trash talk, but that last comment has me laughing too hard. It had to all be an act, because there’s no way you’re so dumb enough that you can’t realize you’re being insulted.
‘Twas entertaining, but the original point stands, smart***ery only works when you’re actually being smart. And not everybody you run your mouth to is going to just insult your intelligence.
Hope you have a nice night!