The Marlins are among the teams with interest in Aroldis Chapman, reports Jon Heyman of the New York Post (Twitter link). Miami becomes the first team known to have checked in on the seven-time All-Star reliever this offseason, though Heyman suggests there are multiple clubs in the mix.
While the Fish are apparently keeping an eye on Chapman, it’s not clear how strong their interest is. Barry Jackson and Craig Mish of the Miami Herald reported this afternoon the Marlins hadn’t put forth a formal offer. According to the Herald, Chapman is hoping to sign with a team in the relatively near future and has been working out in the Miami area, where he lives.
One of the sport’s best relievers for more than a decade, Chapman remained a valuable late-game arm as recently as 2021. He secured an All-Star nod that season and provided the Yankees with a 3.36 ERA through 56 1/3 innings. His walk and home run numbers were a bit alarming but the overall results were solid. New York trusted him enough to give him the ninth inning, where he saved 30 games in 34 attempts.
Had Chapman hit free agency coming off that season, he’d likely have been in line for a solid multi-year pact. The big southpaw had easily the worst season of his career in 2022, sending him to the open market with his value at a low ebb. Chapman posted a 4.46 ERA across 36 1/3 innings, the first year in which he’d allowed more than four earned runs per nine. He walked 17.5% of opposing hitters, the second-highest rate of his career and the loftiest clip of any reliever with 30+ innings pitched last year.
Chapman paired the abundance of free passes with the lowest strikeout percentage of his career. He fanned 26.9% of batters faced, the first time he’d punched out fewer than 30% of opponents. Even that diminished mark for Chapman was still firmly better than average, however. That’s also true of his fastball velocity. His heater sat at 97.5 MPH, a lower figure compared to his peak when he routinely averaged north of 100 MPH. Yet even that version of Chapman was among the sport’s hardest-throwing southpaws. New Philadelphia teammates Gregory Soto and José Alvarado were the game’s only lefties who topped Chapman in average fastball speed.
Given the quality of even the “lesser” stuff he’s brandishing, Chapman could certainly right the ship and reemerge as a quality high-leverage piece. His 2022 issues weren’t limited to his on-field inconsistency though. The 34-year-old (35 next month) had a pair of stints on the injured list. He missed time early in the year to Achilles tendinitis before a late-season injured list stint that arose when a tattoo got infected. That led to some frustration from Yankees brass, and New York left Chapman off their playoff rosters entirely after he didn’t report to a team workout shortly before the start of the postseason.
That certainly seemed to bring an unceremonious end to Chapman’s generally productive seven-year tenure in the Bronx. There was never much doubt he’d catch on elsewhere. Part of a left-handed relief class that has bizarrely lagged the rest of the free agent market, Chapman lingers in free agency alongside the likes of Andrew Chafin, Will Smith, Matt Moore and Brad Hand.
Jackson and Mish write that the Marlins are broadly surveying the market for potential relief help. The Herald reiterates the team’s previously-reported interest in former Cardinals closer Alex Reyes, who continues to work his way back from last May’s shoulder surgery. Jackson and Mish write that Reyes is hopeful of signing with Miami. He’d also be a high-risk upside flier considering his recent health history, though Reyes is far younger than Chapman and throws right-handed. The Fish already have a trio of southpaws — Tanner Scott, Steven Okert and Richard Bleier — locked into their bullpen, so they don’t necessarily have to narrow down targets based on handedness.
davidk1979
Gonna make up the 32 games they finished behind the Braves and Mets with this move— Marlins fans on here.
slidepiece
Would learn to pitch again with either team in Texas. Hoping one may roll the friggin Andrew DICE and gamble. If the price is right then wtff
formerlyz
No, but could at least help put a dent in all the countless games they blew the last couple of years that caused them to lose like 60 1 run games in the last 2 seasons, and like 30 2 run games b/c they cant hold a lead to save their lives
iverbure
You would think the marlins would try to sign more Cubans based on geographic location and it can’t hurt in terms of selling tickets.
kiddhoff
Holy Schnikes!
warnbeeb
How much will this guy cost?
This one belongs to the Reds
He would improve the Reds bullpen and come back where it started.
But they seem to only want to sign minor leaguers this year.
yetipro
According to WAR, major league teams would be better off putting an average minor league reliever on their roster over Chapman. But yeah.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Yetipro WAR is useless, common stats are better at evaluating players
iverbure
War is useless to anyone that clueless and can’t figure out how to properly apply it. The vein diagram of people calling war useless and people who think batting average is important in anyway is a damn near perfect circle.
cornwhisperer
Yeah, why not? With Cutch back in Pittsburgh, he’ll have his favorite target back, too
TrillionaireTeamOperator
1 year/$2.5M guarantee w/ some innings based incentives that can bring it up to $3.5M w/ a mutual option that starts at $5M and can get up to $10M.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Innings based incentives won’t work bc what if he gets demoted from his closer role. And no way he’s capping out at $16M for 2 years.
tstats
And sadly you cannot give incentives for saves which screws that idea.
AHH-Rox
You can give incentives for games finished, which is closely related for a closer.
Yanks4life22
Take German too. Bunch of scum.
StudWinfield
I give German credit for taking responsibility for what happened like an adult. He’s shown an acceptance for atoning for the action. In no way do I consider him to be at the toxic narcissistic level that Chapman, or Donaldson or Bauer appear to be. BTW he is married and has 2 kids with that same woman.
LordD99
How is Donaldson in this grouping?
StudWinfield
Because he’s been a consistent a-hole throughout his career.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Plenty of A-holes in baseball but not all are involved with DV off the field.
Yankee Clipper
It makes complete sense…he was in Miami during the Yankees postseason practices when he was on the Yankees, he may as well be on the Marlins if he’s going to be down there for official team practices.
YankeesBleacherCreature
His tattoo artist probably also won’t have to travel far.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Surprised you haven’t mentioned Chafin, Clip. The Yankees do need another lefty out of the pen besides Peralta.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I’m in on Chafin. I have in a couple non-Yankees threads. I’d like to get him in the bully. I am genuinely curious as to why he’s not signed yet – like not even a report about a team negotiating with him or anything.
HalosHeavenJJ
Agreed. He’d fit so well just about anywhere.
Including here, and I’d be happy.
sergefunction
Won’t the Yankees make Chafin shave off that Andy Reid lip mullet?
Not a chance. He’d rather give up double-doubles with a shake than do that.
CravenMoorehead
He’ll flourish there. Won’t be any important postseason games to blow with that team.
MarlinsFanBase
Why isn’t this deal done yet?
Marlins need anyone that can close better than what we have,
davidk1979
A fourth place team though
MarlinsFanBase
Even fans of fourth place teams don’t like seeing their bullpen blow lead after lead after lead after lead.
formerlyz
1000%, and makes more sense than Segura or Cueto for them
MarlinsFanBase
Yep. Closer should have been #1 on our offseason list.
formerlyz
Sign him, sign Reyes, sign 1 more bullpen guy, turn Sixto into a reliever and call it an offseason…or if theres room, grab some depth at 1b/dh
Maybe if you do trade someone like Lopez, include 1 or 2 of the movable bullpen arms with him (the one thing they do have in that area is LHRPs), and/or Wendle/Berti, and/or 1 of their close to the big leagues/depth arms like Castano or bryan Hoeing for a slightly better return, if needed, which could also clear a roster spot or 2
But the bullpen additions need to happen regardless of anything else. At least 2 arms that can pitch in high leverage situations
rarinaho1712
The Marlins are interested in every Latino free agent available out there. The same for trade targets.
RunDMC
Why wouldn’t they be interested in Duvall? Duvall led NL in RBI mostly bc of his season there in ’21 before being traded back to ATL around the TD.
rememberthecoop
They’re interested. Not enough to make an actual offer. But oh are they interested!
top jimmy
The least competitive baseball player ever.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Chapman would be such a perfect fit for the Mets. Could be potentially the best setup guy in baseball. If Chapman has the dedication to fix his mechanics with Hefner and limit his walks, this move would solidify the bullpen
Flyby
and which reliever would you remove from the projected bullpen for the “potential” he could be better. With the money he made, i doubt he is going to take a minor league deal even with a NRI.
I guess you could send down peterson but then who is your long man / spot starter while chapman “potentially” figures it out. Hernandez and Smith i believe have enough service time that they could refuse minor league but i could be wrong on that and Hernandez you just traded for. Diaz, Raily, Ottavino, Robertson are pretty much guaranteed. Curtis could be cut be he is paid a pittance and was a solid reliever before tj surgery would you really want to cut him?
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Flyby Drew Smith would be my choice. Despite what his stats say, I really truly believe that he is one of the worst relievers I’ve seen in baseball. Peterson should be in the rotation and they should ship out Carrasco. That opens up a space, Megill starts in Triple-A and fills in for injury
EasternLeagueVeteran
Aroldis Chapman about as perfect a fit for the Mets as Yoenis Cespedes, and the Mets need a power bat fourth outfielder. Just ain’t gonna happen.
Flyby
@LGM
While Smith is not an ace reliever there are worse out there (Chapman probably being one of them). He is literally the guy you just throw out there when you need an arm for an inning maybe two and you dont want to use up high leverage guys or long man / spot starter. He pitches well enough for that role and is one of those that is your 25th / 26th player on the roster and basically guaranteeing him basically nothing in baseball terms wih a 1.3M and another year of control as well maybe pushing it to 2.
Are you gong to pay someone else whose floor is much lower 3 to 4 times the amount as you know he is not signing for anything less than 4Mf after the money he made and his “closer/setup potential” for a sligh chance of his potential coming back? If you look at him stat or eyeball wise he has been declining for the last few years which is not surprising me with 12 years of mlb on that arm including some starting early in his career. Thats a lot of mileage and in his case major arm mileage with the power he had in those pitches. Also it is probably more than 3 to 4 as Mets would have to pay tax on his salary as well at this point.Even if its veteran minimum with his number of years its probably around 2 million and then tax pushing it to 4.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Flyby Drew Smith couldn’t shine Chapman’s shoes. Don’t really see why Cohen penny pinches with the bullpen but he will give out overblown contracts to 40 year old starting pitchers. Even last year the bullpen was horrendous and his only signing was Ottavino
Flyby
“Don’t really see why Cohen penny pinches with the bullpen”
really???… so paying out the biggest contract to a reliever in history in both total dollar and AAV and another what was it 20 or 30 million per year for 2 setup men is penny pinching? He spent more on relievers than whole team salaries and you are literally talking about someone that will be back and forth between minors as needed. He is already guaranteed his money to so cutting him means you still pay him to play for another team as he will be picked up pretty quick i feel and then have to pay someone for quadruple the money that has been worse in recent years and declining? He was no longer even trusted to handle the 7th inning role on a depleted bullpen and left off the post season roster.
have you actually looked at them the last couple years? Lets be real, While chapman was great in the past, he has become a shell of his former self and has been in decline since the covid shortened season. Even last year, drew freakin smith produced better numbers than chapman. Better ERA, FIP, better Whip, less walks per 9, and almost beat out chapman in SO per 9 which is Chapman’s forte. Smith did give up more HRs though.
Even eyeball test Chapman was getting pretty wild during the few games i saw him pitch (could be chances but i saw more than a handful of games for the yanks and he either was wild or didnt pitch) and will not be much better when it will be harder to steal strikes with them implementing more of the pitch finder. Smith while not great can be shifted up and down in the minors and looked solid for the role he is in.
i could be wrong again as i am not sure service time rule can be moved to the minors this year as i dont think he hit service time requirements to be free agent if sent to minors. If you sign chapman and he stinks (which is highly probably based on age, mileage, and declining numbers) you can not because you would have to release him and he now took you for the not penny pinched number plus double it for the taxes owed since the team is over the cap.
Is Chapman worth the gamble of probably 8-10 million for a highly improbable chance he returns to what he was?
Bright Side
The only refuge for Chapman would be a team like the Marlins – a lousy team hoping for a good first half from him just in time for the trade deadline.
Curveball1984
Kinda surprised the Cubs didn’t take a flyer. Could be a reclamation project (which they love), cheaper than Chafin, and plus he was apart of the WS champion team. A reunion with the Reds is a low-risk move too. I’m wondering if his demands are too high. If he & his agent are seeking exclusively Closer opportunities and Closer $$$. Shame if it’s true. If he grinded, he could probably still be a decent setup guy. Thinking of Gossage in his A’s days.
Spotswood
Don’t think things ended on good terms in Chicago. Issues with him in the clubhouse. Cubs were working towards the playoffs and he was complaining about how he was used (had to start clean inning, no multi-inning, had to be save situation & only 9th)
Not sure how he and Ross got along, but I’m guessing Ross is a hard pass.
Chafin on the other hand was a fan favorite and very complimentary about his time with the Cubs after he was traded. If it’s not Chafin, I’d be surprised to see the Cubs bring anyone else in.
benhen77
Has Chapman shown an interest in baseball?
HalosHeavenJJ
He’s familiar with the area and the police.
Holy Cow!
Hey! Let’s hope he doesn’t fire his gun in Kim’s garage.
ClevelandSteelEngines
My instinct tells me that this is Chapman’s desire and Marlins are just doing due diligence.
FrontRowMarlins
Reyes is the piece to go after. Give Sandy his entourage… keep that man happy. Sandy, Edward, Eury, Cueto..Dominican Rotation!
padam
Marlins most active team post December. Building a team of misfit toys.
LordD99
Bauer next? It’s not as if they have to worry about fan protests. Interestingly, fan protests might lead to an attendance increase.
Just kidding. I think.
BaseballFan 2001
What about the diamondbacks? You have a very interesting team there… bullpen was there biggest problem any thoughts?
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
I hate this guy, just like most of MLB, so I think Texas should sign him. He should be cheap.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Surprised this guy hasn’t signed yet
LordD99
A rebound is possible as he could still, at times, hit 101 mph. No longer peak 105, but plenty of upper 90s velocity for a reliever, especially a lefty. Has a good breaking pitch too. What he’s lost is any consistent control of his fastball, so he was constantly pitching from behind. For a guy who is all about intimidation, he also now seems more prone to being rattled.
He’s worth a look if a team can get past him abandoning his prior club. For Aroldis, it’s all about Aroldis.
StPeteStingRays
In Miami, he can have fresh chicharones at his fingertips. That should liven up the baseball a little. Between that and an unlimited supply of white sleeveless and ribbed undershirts: it’s Shangri-La!
AmericanRedneck
They should sign former Cy Young winner and pitching savant, Trevor Bauer. But nope, the collusion continues.
acoss13
I wouldn’t mind either the Cubs or White Sox picking him up. Good reclamation project for the Cubs, and a lefty reliever for the White Sox, especially since Liam is going to be out for who knows how long, understandably so too.