Jan. 18: Craig Mish of the Miami Herald reports that the deal is for one-year and $3.5MM, with up to $2MM in incentives.
Jan. 17: The Brewers are in agreement on a deal with free agent third baseman/corner outfielder Brian Anderson, reports Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic (Twitter link). The deal is pending a physical. Anderson is a client of CAA Sports.
Anderson, 30 in May, had spent his entire career as a member of the Marlins. Selected in the third round of the 2014 draft, the University of Arkansas product reached the majors a little more than three years later. He debuted at the tail end of the 2017 season and established himself as Miami’s everyday third baseman the following year.
That marked the first of four straight years in which Miami would pencil him in at the hot corner on Opening Day. For his first three seasons, the right-handed hitter was a productive player on both sides of the ball. He hit at an above-average level every year between 2018-20, showing roughly average plate discipline and contact skills with quality hard contact numbers. Miami’s cavernous ballpark didn’t do him many favors from a home run perspective but he topped 30 doubles in both 2018 and ’19.
Overall, Anderson hit .266/.350/.436 in just over 1400 plate appearances through his first three full seasons. He paired that quality offense with average to slightly above par marks at the hot corner from public defensive metrics. While he wasn’t a star, Anderson looked the part of a solid regular who could factor into the Miami lineup at least throughout his arbitration seasons.
The past two years have been disappointing, though, largely thanks to injuries. Anderson missed extended chunks of the 2021 campaign with a pair of subluxations in his left shoulder. In 67 games when healthy enough to play, he managed only a .249/.337/.378 line. He had another pair of injured list stints last season — first for lower back spasms in June, then a six-week absence late in the summer for another left shoulder issue. Anderson appeared in 98 games but put up a career-worst .222/.311/.346 line through 383 trips to the plate.
Over the past two years, he’s hit a below-average .233/.321/.359 through 647 plate appearances. His strikeouts have gone up slightly but the greater concern is the lack of damage he’s done on contact. Anderson’s hard contact percentage has dipped a bit from its 2018-19 peak. He’s collected a combined 25 doubles over the past two seasons after excelling at hitting the gaps for his first few years against MLB pitching. In the wake of that diminished production, Miami non-tendered him to kick off this winter instead of bringing him back on an arbitration salary projected around $5.2MM.
Once he hit free agency, Anderson became an intriguing buy-low target for other clubs. It’d certainly appear as though his production has been adversely affected by the shoulder concerns that have sent him to the IL a few times over the past couple years. The Brewers will hope an offseason of rest and a change of scenery will allow him to put his recent struggles behind him and recapture some of his early-career promise.
In addition to his roughly average defense at third base, Anderson has ample experience in the corner outfield. He’s played over 1500 MLB innings as an outfielder, with almost all of that work coming in right field. Public metrics have been split on his work on the grass. Defensive Runs Saved has credited him as eight runs better than average in the outfield over the course of his career. Statcast, on the other hand, has pegged him seven runs below par.
The Brewers presumably take the more favorable view of Anderson’s outfield glovework. Luis Urías is fairly well established as the third baseman in Milwaukee. Anderson offers some extra cover at the hot corner but has his clearest path to playing time in right field. Christian Yelich will man left field, while the Brewers looked set to turn center and right field over to Garrett Mitchell and Tyrone Taylor, respectively. Mitchell played well late in his rookie season but has only 28 MLB games under his belt. Taylor connected on 17 home runs while playing plus defense last year, earning a semi-regular role. Yet he also hit .233 with a below-average .286 on-base percentage, raising some questions about his ability to handle the offensive demands of an everyday right field job.
Anderson won’t necessarily bump Taylor from the starting lineup, but he adds another option to the mix for manager Craig Counsell. His right-handed bat also offers some extra balance to a lefty-swinging first base/designated hitter tandem of Jesse Winker and Rowdy Tellez, though Anderson himself has thus far fared better without the platoon advantage in his career.
On a one-year contract, Anderson is set to return to free agency next winter after surpassing the six-years service threshold during the 2023 campaign. Once finalized, Anderson will become the third major league signee of the offseason for Milwaukee. Wade Miley inked a one-year, $4.5MM guarantee, while outfielder Blake Perkins is on a pre-arbitration salary having never before played in the majors. Before accounting for Anderson’s money, Milwaukee projects for a 2023 payroll around $117MM, as calculated by Roster Resource. The club opened last season in the $132MM range, so there should still be room for more lower-cost additions for general manager Matt Arnold and his front office.
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Brewers monopolizing all of the Brian Anderson’s
I didn’t know our announcer could play OF and 3B
Good one hahaha
You just have to get the Rays announcer to sit with your announcer and you would have the trio of Brian Anderson…. Like the Matrix of baseball.
Reminds me of when the rays had
-B. Lowe
-J. Lowe
-N. Lowe
All of them played together in spring training of 2020.
Back in the 90’s the Cardinals had 3 Smith’s for a couple of seasons
Chad Smith
Will Ferrell
Yeah, and two of those Smiths were two of their best players at the time and future Hall of Famers. Poor Bryn couldn’t match up with the other two guys.
I never knew Nick Lowe played baseball too.
Yeah, every Lowe plays baseball for the Rays whether they want to or not. In fact, I heard the Rays are trying to acquire Rob Lowe just to complete the circle.
I’m pretty sure they plan to diversify and buy Lowe’s as well. Crafty.
haha I’m tuning into Brewers games just for that
I don’t hate it. I don’t love it.
I know announcer B.A is absolutely ecstatic. He loves this guy
This is a solid move
Solid? Maybe but I’d rather them have kept Renfroe. They’re committing up to $5.5 million this year for Brian Anderson. They could of just kept Renfroe for around $8.2. Shoot they let Boxberger go over like $2 million and he’s been a huge asset in the pen the last few years.
Hunter made 7.6 last year. He’s going to make ~ 10.5 this year.
Plus Winker and Toro are Brewers now, more depth
They figure if you throw enough stuff at the wall, odds are something will stick. One or 2 of these guys should accumulate enough WAR to make an impact. The problem is you have to guess right with the playing time and picking the right guy who might get hot and get on a roll when the rest of the team is playing well. That generates wins and hot streaks. Teams loaded with superstars at 3 or 4 positions don’t have to rely on hot streaks.
Enough talking, let’s get spring training started and see what we’ve got!
That’s my bad, I was looking at the wrong number for Renfroe.
Either way, I’d still would of kept Renfroe over a combination of Anderson and Jesse Winker. Anderson’s combined WAR the last three years barely beats Renfroe last year. Winker also cost $8.25 this year. He had a negative WAR last year. But Anderson and Winker can rebound and prove me wrong.
But then they’d have no decent options at DH.
Winker is going to be the nearly full time DH, since his glove is so bad. Hiura will get ABs there and at 1B. Yelich will also get significant playing time at DH when and if they call up one of the youngsters for a trial.
It’s going to be hard to find enough ABs for guys at DH. Those are the 3 worst gloves on the team (Yeli only adequate because it’s not a premium position).
Even some of the depth pieces at 1B could see time there if they get called up. Singleton.
Yes, but the previous poster thought the Brewers should’ve kept Renfroe instead of signing Anderson and trading for Winker, but without Winker they’d have no decent DH options (or if they played Yelich there they’d then have no decent LF options).
These outfield youngsters of theirs are unproven and not likely to make a great impact this year, which is why they need both Winker and Anderson instead of just Renfroe on a team that hopes to contend this year.
Sure, but Winker is among the worst 10 OFs in the league. Yelich is not very good. The starters will be Yelich, Mitchell and Taylor, but the 4th and 5th OFs are all currently guys you’d rather play elsewhere (Anderson and Winker). Hiura CAN even play OF, but it’s hard to believe they think Blake Perkins can be the 4th and that Anderson, Winker and Hiura will combine to fill the innings of a 5th.
I wasn’t even really considering the notion of having kept Renfroe. Trading he and Wong were good moves and are done.
I was just looking at the roster as it is constructed. At this point Perkins IS the 4th. And that’s probably not a good thing unless they acquired him because they think a 25 year old with NO MLB experience is the answer.
So, maybe he gets cut after flailing for a month or even in spring training and Frelick gets a chance to be the back up.
Depending on match ups, he can put Yeli at DH on occasion and move Mitchell over to left.
And then we still have 3 guys to fill the 5th role.
Taylor is the 4th outfielder. And that’s all he’ll ever be.
I was originally responding to RodBecksBurnerAccount, who was talking about keeping Renfroe over both Winker and Anderson.
Anyway, maybe they suck defensively, but Winker is a great hitter most years (just had an injury-plagued year last year), while Yelich is still an above average hitter at the very least. They are easily among the best hitters on the team, which more than make up for their defensive shortcomings (especially if one or the other is going to DH most of the time), especially compared to their unproven rookies and sophomores (and Hiura, as well).
Meanwhile, Anderson is also clearly one of their starters, leaving one starting spot for Mitchell, Taylor, or Perkins and the other two as the 4th and 5th outfielders (with Winker as the primary DH). It’s highly unlikely that more than one of those 3 performs well enough to deserve a starting spot as early as this year, anyway. If they’re stupid enough to bench Anderson from the beginning, then they’ll struggle to score more runs than even the Cubs in 2023.
“He’s a good hitter most years.” Sure, he’s been a good hitter when he plays (except last year). But he doesn’t play that much. He’s only played more than 113 games once in his career…and that was last year. I hope I am wrong about him and he does perform well, but I’d still rather go with Renfroe.
You’re hoping Anderson, who he hasn’t hit well in 4 years suddenly turns it around, and that Winker plays more than 113 games and is productive. That’s a lot of hoping.
I’d rather take the much more consistent Renfroe. There’s a very good chance the Brewers get nothing of considerable value between both Anderson and Winker. There’s actually a better chance of that, than them being productive.
Anderson had a mediocre year, THREE great ones, and TWO injury plagued bad ones.
Where are you getting this 4 years biz?
He’s going to thrive here now that he’s healthy.
You vastly underrate him.
This will be his year.
He’s WAY better than everyone thinks, a plus plus defender and a 30 HR guy.
If he ever gets the ABs. Might be 35 or 40.
Don’t discount Hiura. Like Taylor, he’s much better than people realize. If you can dismiss how bad Winker and Yeli are in the OF, we can dismiss Hiura’s high strike out rate. An out is an out is an out. And a K is better than hitting into a double play. Expecting that a ball put into play leads to something good is a rare thing (goofy errors and runners advancing or scoring really doesn’t happen all that often).
K rate simply doesn’t matter as long as you have hard contact and his some HRs.
Which Hiura does.
Winker’s productivity isn’t a major question, and 100 or so games with Winker is still a lot better than not having him at all.
But Taylor will never get those ABs. Because he doesn’t hit for average and doesn’t get on base.
Finally something we agree on. Strikeouts only matter if there are runners on base.
I went though every strikeout the Brewers had in 2016 & 2017 (when they led the majors in strikeouts) and over 80% of the strikeouts came with either nobody on base or with two outs. If there’s nobody on base, or there are two outs, it doesn’t matter if it’s a strikeout or a ground ball or a fly out to the fence.
And before anyone says “errors,” if the Brewers had struck out 1000 times less each season (about two-thirds of their total strikeouts), using the league fielding average, it would have worked out to about one error every two weeks.
You highly underestimate just how often something good happens when you put the ball in play. Even if an error isn’t charged, you will get quite a few unexpected hits, beneficial fielder’s choices, and sac flies caused by shaky defensive plays or even with decent defense. Putting the ball in play is quite a bit more valuable that strikeouts even after subtracting the value from hitting into double plays and adding the (miniscule) value of reaching on the third strike rule
Meanwhile, Even 20 HRs isn’t that good if you can’t get on base very often, and Hiura was absolutely terrible at doing that in 2020 and 2021. Hiura did have a pretty good year last year, so maybe he’s finally developing, but it’s still only a one year track record with a career OPS+ only slightly above average at 105. Well, he’s needed more on the infield, anyway.
Three great seasons for Anderson lol? His OPS+ since he’s been in the league has been 94, 110, 112, 116, 94, and 87. He’s had zero great seasons. He’s entering his age 30 season after two injury plagued seasons. Do you have any definitive proof that he’s magically healthy again and going to start hitting? He’s had 3 BELOW AVERAGE seasons, including two in a row, and 3 slightly above average seasons. That’s it. Never a “great” season. 4 years was a slip up, but it’s been 3 since he’s had an above average season. I have no idea why you’re so smitten with Brian Anderson
Now Winker has been a good hitter (except for last season). There’s no arguing that. But again, he’s played over 113 games once in his career, and that was last year. Didn’t go so hot.
Hmm, “beneficial fielder’s choices and sac flies.” Things that happen only when there is someone on base and less than two outs. If there’s nobody on base, there is zero chance of those things happening. Also, if there are two outs, there is zero chance of those things happening. No such thing as a “beneficial fielder’s choice” that ends the inning.
Saying putting the ball in play is better than a strikeout is true only in certain situations. It’s like saying a single to right is better than a single to left. It’s true only in certain circumstances.
That’s actually 100% false. Those types of plays almost never happen.
You might see one every few days on the Sportscenter highlights.
They rarely if ever affect the outcome of the game.
That’s a two year track record. They just aren’t in a row. He DID look like a hitting savant his very first year, with a high average, OBP, slugging and 19 HRs in 83 games (or something like that).
Sad he didn’t turn into a 35 HR guy right away, but he’s heading the in the right direction.
Your standards are bogus. ANYTHING more than 10 above league average is great. It’s just not all star or elite great.
Well above average is still above average.
Should we stick with the guys who were well below?
As a former PT and athlete my definitive proof is that his arm strength returned to top 10 in all of MLB.
The bat takes longer to come back around.
You didn’t say it had been 4 years since. You said he’d been BAD for 4 years in a row. He’s been bad for 2 years in a row SOLELY due to injury. He was WELL above average for 3 years prior.
I’d never heard of him before. I like the move because all the other moves at 3rd were bad and people were convinced Urias wasn’t being moved to 2nd (he clearly is).
Winker I did know and saw a lot from when he was in the division. But he has been AWFUL since. WAY worse than Anderson’s drop off.
What makes anyone think he will really be a bounce back?
I’m not sure I see it and I’m sure I don’t want to see him play a single inning in the OF. DH for life baby!
LOLOL look at you trying to re-define slightly above average as “great.” Great=all-star/elite. You really like the guy. Good for you. At one time, he did look like he would rise to an all-star level player. But he never did. Maybe he rebounds this year. I hope he does.
I’d never heard of him before, but he was stringing together some consistent 3 WAR seasons. The Crew could use that and he might be even better. Especially if we can get that at 2nd with Urias.
hopefully this means Hiura is gone
If you package him and Houser you could get a nice return. Good back end of the rotation arm and a change of scenery bat guy like Keston.
I’d be happy with that
Nope, this is Jace Petersons’s replacement.
I’m digging this dude. If he can rebound at all offensively he’s a good get.
He could have helped another team you and I know.
Cincinnati could have used him but the kid GM continues to sit on his hands when it comes to MAJOR LEAGUE players.
Interesting that it took this long for him to get an offer. I find it amazing that the smallest moves in the winter often turn out sneaky good once we get through half of the summer. Time will tell.
Two years ago, he would have made big money, but he has lost some value. This could be a very good buy-low play for the Brewers. Or it could be buying a guy that will never bounce back. Time will tell.
They’re hoping on that from Winkler as well.
Let’s say both Winkler and BA do…added with adames, Contreras, tellez, Yeli, now you’re looking at a solid lineup.
Need some good luck
It’s not Winkler, it’s Winker. You’re getting him confused with Arthur Fonzarelli.
Ironically, the Fonz is also from Milwaukee. I can see why you had the names confused.
The Brewers new DH/1B won the critics choice awards last Sunday for his supporting role on the HBO show “Barry.” He has a career after baseball.
Sit on it!
Are the Brewers really planning for Jesse Winker to see playing time at 1B? He’s barely able to handle corner OF.
No, Winker is dh and, occasional, lf. That was poorly worded by the writer.
Who knows at this point? 25 dudes on the 40 man vying for 8 regular positions. Catcher, LF, SS and 1B seem fairly locked up. The rest is really a free for all, including backups and DH. I don’t think Counsell really likes a consistent lineup or batting order for that matter. He’ll plug and play for the first 2 months and nobody will have a chance to get real comfortable anywhere. Whoever had a kinda hot batting practice or 2 hits the day before plays. Everyone else rides the bench until they get a chance to pinch hit for someone who is slumping. If they get a hit, they start the next day. Gotta be brutal psychologically.
That is true, but usually after 2 months it all shakes out and people start getting consistent time at the positions they thrive at.
I’m just projecting what I think that will be and based on the past with Stearns and Couns, I think I can read their intent pretty well.
Which is why I’m pretty certain that Urias is moving to 2B for the rest of his career and it’s Andersons’ job to lose at 3B now (he won’t play LF much, if at all). Taylor gets his chance. Mitchell starts in CF.
I just think these guys who are convinced that Urias is a 3B are nuts and they are even more nuts to think that Turang, Weimer, or Frelick will play much this year.
I sure agree on Urias. We know what we have with that guy, and he could be replaced by anyone else in the farm. You’d never know the difference. Same with Taylor – we’ve seen enough to know that he’s an avg CF’er. Not much for on base skills, a little pop, too many grounders, decent in the field. Thing is, there are plenty of these dudes around the major leagues. They need standouts, so let’s see what Mitchell has, and if he doesn’t make some kind of an impact by the break, next man up. This could be anywhere from an 85-95 win team, depending on a few of these guys either getting on base at a good clip or getting clutch hits with RISP. That’s what it’s going to take to stand out from the rest of the wild card contenders. The strength should be the rotation.
Well, other than a low level SS and a low level 2B, both of whom are doing exceptionally well, we don’t have ANYONE in the minors who could replace Urias’ production. Turang has NO shot of producing anything this year. Urias has had more HRs in each of his last two years than Wong has had in his best (which were the last 2). Urias also had WAY fewer ABs, and projects for 25-30 with a full season. Wong will never hit that and had THE lowest arm strength in the majors last year.
Taylor is also an ELITE defensive OF at both RF and CF. Elite speed and routes and glove. He’s as good as Cain. While the OBP isn’t great, he will benefit from the shift reduction. He’s also another who projects to 35-40 HRs in a full season (he’s never come close to 600 ABs).
Mitchell of course could be a star. Reminds me of Bryant and should start. But so too should Taylor in RF and Urias at 2B. Anderson is clearly already the starter at 3B (and I had no idea, but he’s a top 10 arm on the IF in the majors).
Toro and Bross back ups.
I think they are done except for some pen arms.
And I guess this means my dream of trading for Paredes is dead.
Frelick and Weimer would be WAY worse than Taylor and Turang way worse than Urias. No experience.
So I do disagree that we could replace them with anyone and you wouldn’t know the difference. The difference would be huge.
Plenty of at bats for him in the INF/OF corners. If he rebounds he could be a nice complimentary piece for their lineup.
Looked up shoulder subluxation and it means the humerus pops out of the socket.
Be really interested to hear a doctor’s take on how that heals and/or lingers.
Doesn’t sound like theres anything humerus about it…
I used to be in the PT biz and that’s an odd and almost intentionally vague phrasing. Subluxation is almost exclusively used in the field to describe vertebrae that are out of place.
The shoulder is also the most complex joint in the human body and it could refer to the scapula or even the clavicle.
MLB and other sports do like to hide injuries.
I’m sure it’s not what google says. It could be quite a number of things.
The humerus, after all, is mostly considered an arm bone, even if it does articulate at the shoulder, but then so do do the other bones I mentioned, which can also become dislocated.
Going from Miami to Milwaukee, Brian Anderson’s stats are going to show a marked improvement – not that Anderson will be better, but the ball-park will make a difference and having better hitters in the lineup will make a difference. Anderson has been injured a lot, but I expect a nice season for him in 2023.
Having better coaches and a better FO will help more. Miami hasn’t made hitters better in years. They’ve almost all stalled out.
Shoulders. Power zappin
Panic move by the Brewers. Cardinals and Cubs both made improvements, Brewers regressed. They keep pointing to William Contreras as a huge add. The Braves wouldn’t even play him in the playoffs at DH, let alone catcher. He’s an upgrade over last year because of his bat but he’s junk behind the plate.
Hot taek.
Panic? No, that would have been offering a boatload to any of the big money FA’s. This is nothing more than a typical Brewers type signing. You know, like they’ve done for basically their entire existence as a franchise.
The panic moves were stl overpay for Wilson and Cubs Swanson albatross contract.
Yeah, the Cubs could win 80 this year. Look out!
As a Marlins fan, I’m still annoyed ths way they handled him at times, and then he had a couple of unfortunate injuries in a row. If he stays healthy, and gets Abs, he could really be a player in a situation with more guys around him especially, but also a better environment
Either he produces this year and turns his career around or off to Korea.
Seems like the Brewers already have a similar player in Mike Brosseau. Anderson does give them interesting options for mixing-and-matching against lefties
Solid replacement for Jace Peterson..could be more. Not a bad move but it has me wary he didn’t sign for that long..I woulda signed Voit instead but that’s me.
I’m sure Anderson was looking to sign a one year “prove it” deal to rebuild his value. Seems like a win for both sides.
I meant nobody signed him till now..not the length of the deal. My bad the wording was confusing. I agree it could be a win win though.
They really have something good brewing here.
“Luis Urías is fairly well established as the third baseman in Milwaukee”
No. He is an absolute butcher at 3B. BA & Brosseau (and occasionally Turang) should be the only ones playing there. Urias would thrive as a 2B-only guy.
Unfortunately the Brewers will allow Urias to rack up plenty of errors at the hot corner while Anderson rots in RF.
Brosseau was rated a worse defender at 3b than Urias. Similar fielding pct. .940-.934 still in Urias favor. Rangefactor had Urias clear above Brosseau. Jace Peterson on the other hand, he was a couple levels better Both Urias&Brosseau.so maybe you remembered wrong.
I checked on Statcast, and it turns out Brosseau’s arm is just as bad as Urias’ (both are in the bottom third in arm strength). I apologize, only Anderson should play 3rd.
Disinformation. Wong was dead last at 162/162.
Urias and Bross were at 97 and 98, or the 41st percentile.
Not the bottom third. Fairly close to middle of the pack.
And that 85 MPH for a guy his size is VERY impressive and profiles perfectly at 2B.
Where he WILL start this year.
Adames was 5th and Anderson 9th in the entire league.
Which is why that one moron who keeps harassing me is wrong: Anderson WILL start at 3B and almost NEVER play LF, where Taylor is elite with the glove and range and decent with the arm.
And will hit 35 HRs with 600 ABs.
Jace at 25 was the only other Crew player in the top 100 (25th) and Toro is currently at 80th (the only other current Brewer in the top 100, though Paredes, the guy I want, is 82nd).
But as with all of this, we are talking about MARGINAL differences. The difference between the 80th and 100th place guys are under 1.5 MPH.
Top is 93.9 and it drops below 90 by the 10th place guy.
And what you looked at was ALL IF positions.
Luis is 31 of 53 3Bs. Bross 37th. Anderson 4th. Toro 21st and Paredes 25th (Jace still pretty high on the list).
Which is why my stalker is wrong and Anderson will start at 3B.
Fld% at 3B in 2022:
Luis Urias: .940
Brian Anderson: .937
Mike Brosseau: .934
Yes, Brian Anderson was hurt and his F% was down from his career .956.
Maybe Brian Anderson is just getting old and can no longer field well enough to play third on a daily basis.
And I would bet more of his errors came from the throwing arm than the glove side.
EXACTLY. He’s not quite a butcher, as you say, and I was very surprised to learn last year that he has a cannon of an arm, but it’s pretty clear after trading Wong and retaining Bross and acquiring guys like Toro (the one guy they have overpaid). that Luis will be moved to 2B permanently. Smaller guy with a lot of pop in the bat so he profiles way above average for the position (his worst HR years with far fewer ABs were a minimum of 5 more HRs than Wong’s best 2 years in these last 2).
I expect Anderson to start at 3B and never see the grass, but it also likely means my dream of Houser and Hiura for Paredes is dead.
No, that’s not pretty clear. It’s pretty clear that Urias will get the vast majority of starts at third.
Wanna bet? They just acquired a 3B and overpaid Toro in arb to keep him.
120 starts at 2B for Luie.
They just signed a right fielder (moves Mitchell to center and Taylor on the bench, where he belongs) and Toro is a utility guy. Turang at second, Urias at third, Anderson in right.
Nope. Taylor starts. Turang doesn’t even play in 15 games this year. Bross and Toro are utility. Anderson is NOT a RF by trade, but starts at 3B. Urias at 2B. Winker DH.
It’s so obvious. You are wrong. I am correct.
They traded Wong to move Urias. Why do you miss that point?
Anderson is NOT a good OF. Taylor is elite on D and 35 HRs with the ABs.
Absolutely no way Taylor starts in front of Mitchell. Zero, zero, zero chance of that. That’s so obvious that only a complete pinhead wouldn’t see it. Well, look who I’m telling this to.
They traded Wong to create room for Turang. Why do you miss that point? Too busy getting participation trophies for frolf, I guess.
They’re BOTH starting, moron. Mitch in CF and Taylor in RF.
Only a complete pinhead like you would have faith in the utter bust Turang will be. He sucks.
Not as much as you though, with your avatar and participation trophies (mine are actually made of wood, glass, plastic and various other REAL materials).
Because I live in the real world and your life achievements are solely cyber.
Which won’t help you much when society collapses in the next few years and the internet is gone and you have to grow potatoes (which I already know how to do).
Better start learning something real and useful, though your brain for baseball indicates you can’t.
Coddled and entitled Millennial whose parents told him he was great after he struck out 4 times in a row at tee ball.
Wow. Really triggered you there. And EVERYTHING you wrote is wrong. It’s quite remarkable how wrong one idiot can be.
While you are digging in the dirt for potatoes, I’ll be flying a helicopter around (which I already know how to do).
Oh, and I’m not a Millennial. In fact, I’m probably older than you. So stop playing with frisbees and get a real life.
Turang in only 15 games???…. He may shuttle this year but 15 games is just a joke…. With no shift and his defensive value alone gets him ALOT more then 15 games it’s like having a ss on the right side of the infield to pair with Adames…. That’s a great double play combo!!
I could see the brewers holding Mitchell back to start the year till after the super two date… same with Turang but both are a BIG part of this team this year… they just don’t want to spend this off-season so that factors in plus they will hold them back to get another year of control… but they definitely will play a lot at the mlb level
So we are debating baseball with a potato farmer that thinks the world is about to end…??
I don’t doubt your “trophies” are made of glass that explains a lot!!! Do you blow your own trophies? Or buy them at the smoke shop?
You forgot something. A world-class disc golfing potato farmer that thinks the world is about to end. Who would have played in the NBA if he hadn’t broken his neck.
We’ll see if his D is that good on the MLB level.
He won’t even see a day on the MLB roster until at least June.
If he gets called up for an injury or something and is terrible for 10 days, he’s going right back down for 2 more months.
Not much season left then.
And I don’t think he can hit on the MLB level. Career utility guy is his ceiling.
For sure with Turang. I think Mitchell makes it out of camp and starts in CF. Unless you want Taylor to start in CF and platoon Winker and Anderson in RF, which I think is a disaster defensively.
haha….no. I know how to grow anything and take care of a garden.
And I know climate change is real and is happening much faster than they originally predicted and at least half the world populace will be dead in under 20 years.
If not sooner based on what Blackrock is saying.
The guy throwing those insults and cyber stalking me is merely a (well, you can’t use the r word anymore but he IS a psychopath).
I’ve never been to one of those places, BUT the glass blown open DID have a blower make disc replicas of glass one year. That was a nice win, not for the money, but for that amazing trophy!!
And if you’re dissing weed, the only known positive drug on the planet, you’re just as much a stalker, moron, and psychopath as the other guy.
Must be Alt Right and a Trumper.
I don’t doubt you are a far right psychopath with an ignorant comment like that.
Urias isn’t a butcher at 3B.
Agree, he was a problem at SS before the Adames acquisition but he’s fine at 3B (from somebody who watches every Brewers game).
Where do you guys come up with this garbage?
Urias is just fine at 3rd defensively and offensively.
He’s certainly not bad defensively there, but he’s nowhere close to elite. Great range, great arm, still boots too many and makes bad throws on occasion (but with far less frequency than before).
His bat is fine, but it also profiles to WAY less power than you’d want at the corner (he won’t ever hit 35). In a full season, however, he profiles to 25 or 30 HRs, and that’s elite for 2B.
Which is why I’m certain that’s his new position.
They got rid of Wong and have now signed 2 primary 3Bs.
Well, you’re wrong. Again.
That would be you.
Nuh,-uh.
Good move by the Brewers. If BA gets the at bats, he could easily be a 25-30 HR guy in that ballpark. I’ll assume the money was maybe five or six million for one year. BA would have made a lot of sense for the Giants, too.
Good for both sides. Low-risk/high-reward move for the Brewers; And Anderson gets away from Ng who never believed in him.
If Anderson is healthy, the Brewers got a heck of a bargain.
Hard for anyone to seriously invest in a player who hasn’t been able to replicate any significant success due to injury for the past 2+ years
@Big Smoke
Kim Ng had an issue since her first day in office… long before the last two years of injuries. The Marlins were discussing an extension with him, then on Day 1 of Ng’s time, she made it clear that she wasn’t convinced. Luckily for her, his injuries the last two years kept from being on the pile of stupid decisions she’s made… because if he were healthy and continued on the track of development he was on, he would’ve cost more than what was being discussed before Ng entered the picture.
She’s got to hope that he doesn’t rebound and makes her look stupid… while she continues to fail the Marlins.
3.5 million makes me even more salty. Wasnt ready to move on from BA
@formerlyz
You know I’m ticked off about this. Ng was the only one that wasn’t in BA’s court.
If he rebounds, which I think he will, this will be another move Ng gets destroyed for.
Dern, feel like this is a better deal the Braves should have done than all the options we have collected for lf. Super cheap, nothing but upside here
Agree, and they got him incredibly cheap if he improves at all.
I like it. It’s a low-risk move. Quality bench guys/depth guys have a lot of value. And the price is right.
Time will determine if the signing was good or not. The Brewers management needs to worry more about upsetting their stars. To not give Hader the bit more and fight in arbitration made him upset when it was a small difference. Now the Brewers did the same thing with Burnes to fight over under a million dollars. NOT A GOOD MOVE WHEN YOU WANT THESE GUYS TO SIGN LONG TERM!
They’re not signing Burns long term. Way too much money. Gotta hit on the prospects
I’m not sure going to arbitration had any substantial impact on Hader’s on-field production. As for trading him, it was inevitable since the Brewers cannot afford to pay a reliever $15MM+ per.
The same can be said for Burnes who will easily command an AVV between $30-40 million when he reaches free agency. There’s no way the Brewers can field a competitive team when they have 2 players accounting for 50% of their payroll. As for arbitration, the difference between the two salaries submitted for arbitration is only a $700K. It’s not like the Brewers are lowballing Burnes. It all comes down to the comparisons each side used for calculations. If I recall, the Brewers won their case with Hader which means they offered him fair value.
I know we as fans tend to say, it’s only $700K or a couple million difference but for a small market team like Milwaukee, that could mean the difference between adding guys like Brian Anderson, Jace Peterson, Brad Boxberger etc) who can provide addition value to the roster.
They could offer Burnes 3 years and 75 with a huge signing bonus. It would be a smart move for both sides. Burnes is only projected to get 25 total the next 2 years that the Crew controls him.
He’d be playing with house money, especially if he were to get injured and see his value plummet to zero. He’s not wiry and able to recover from major injury like DeGrom, but more like a big dude like Jimmy Nelson who barely recovered at all and it took years.
Sure but I don’t see Burnes wanting to give up a free agency year just to get more $$$ up front in a signing bonus. He’ll get a guaranteed $300MM once he hits free agency. He’s going year to year like Prince Fielder did to maximize his earnings.
No it’s not based on a slight variation is the result of defensive metrics weighing heavily on specific statistics.
Sorry I replied to the wrong post.
Also, until each side provides their arbitration figure, the other side doesn’t know it. There may be a bigger gap in talks, but when providing a number that might win with an arbitrator, that number may suddenly move.
They were provided this week when all 18 other players avoided arb.
Burnes said 10.8 and the Crew 10.1
Nice! He was worth 0.3 WAR in 2022. 3/10th better than a replacement player. Always good to have guys who are better than replacement level players.
Not bad. Would rather had them keep Renfroe.
Not me when taking into account their salaries (Renfroe = $11.9M vs Anderson = $3.5M).
Maybe playing in a more hitter-friendly ballpark will help him out, a lot of upside with Milwaukee.
“Defensive Runs Saved has credited him as eight runs better than average in the outfield over the course of his career. Statcast, on the other hand, has pegged him seven runs below par.”
This perfectly shows why advanced defense stats are complete worthless. Utter garbage.
No it only shows the criteria used for these two metrics are different which is why there are discrepancies in the results.
Defensive metrics like this are definitely a head scratcher. That’s why you need the eye test to complement analytics. That being said, I don’t watch the Marlins really so I have no idea how this guy has done.
That would explain a slight variation. But to have on say plus 8 and the other say minus 7? That simply means crappy, made-up stats with no real basis in reality.
We also agree on this. That’s why you got a like.
We don’t disagree on everything. K Rate too.
I just think that as a former athlete I see more potential and positivity in some players than you do. I see a potential above average player in Taylor and you don’t. I also see a lot of probably busts among the MiLB players (Turang and Weimer likely and Frelick on the bubble).
Those aren’t just discrepancies. They’re MAJOR flaws in both sets of terms.
It means NEITHER has any value.
Yep. About the only thing I care about on that side now is range factors. Especially now that the shift is more limited.
This is why you get guys that have gold gloves, that don’t deserve it, and then have guys that have great defensive metrics with no gold gloves. That’s why I like having both the eye test and the analytics. Solely only using one tool is a mistake in my opinion.
Starting to remember why I took a five year hiatus on the comments section on this site.
Jesus.
See you in another 5. We didn’t miss you.
Please go with him.
Dopes like you.
Stop projecting and take your own advice drunkard!
Not a bad deal for the non-tendered Anderson.