December 21: Judge will make even salaries of $40MM throughout the course of the deal, per Jon Heyman of The New York Post.
December 20: The Yankees have made it official today, announcing the deal.
December 7: The reigning American League MVP isn’t going anywhere. Free-agent outfielder Aaron Judge has agreed to terms on a new contract with the Yankees, reports Jon Morosi of MLB.com. The deal, which is still pending a physical, will guarantee Judge $360MM over a nine-year term, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic.
It’s the largest free-agent contract in MLB history, handily topping Bryce Harper’s previous $330MM record. The $40MM average annual value on the contract establishes a new record among position players and trails only the matching $43.333MM AAVs of Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander — both of whom are on shorter-term deals — for the largest in MLB history. Judge is represented by Page Odle of PSI Sports Management.
Judge’s decision to remain in New York puts an end to a weeks-long saga that saw him primarily fixated on the Yankees and Giants, his two most serious suitors from the moment he rejected a qualifying offer issued by the Yankees. The Giants were reported to have made a similar offer yesterday, and Morosi tweets that Judge turned down higher offers after ultimately deciding he preferred to remain a Yankee. The Padres, notably, made a late offer worth a reported $400MM in an attempt to woo Judge, albeit to no avail. Judge will now likely spend his entire career in Yankee pinstripes, as the new contract will run through his age-39 season.
Judge famously bet on himself heading into the 2022 season, turning down a seven-year, $213.5MM extension offer from the Yankees in Spring Training. General manager Brian Cashman took the uncommon step of announcing the terms of the Yankees’ final offer to the public. While that unorthodox tactic upset Judge — as the outfielder himself has since publicly stated — it also leaves no doubt as to the numbers that were offered and thus gives a clear window into just how much the 2022 MVP gained in betting on himself. Judge’s gamble drew some scrutiny, but in the end, he secured an additional two years and a jaw-dropping $146.5MM — a 68.6% increase over the originally proposed guarantee.
It’s a massive win for Judge — one that was earned on the heels of a season the likes of which baseball fans have not seen since Barry Bonds dominated during the steroid era. Judge led the Majors in home runs, runs scored, RBIs, on-base percentage, slugging percentage and total bases, finishing out the year with a comical .311/.425/.686 batting line and a new American League record of 62 home runs.
It’s nearly impossible to draw up a better platform season for a free agent. Judge not only captivated baseball fans but caught the attention of sports fans everywhere while chasing down Roger Maris’ longstanding record, evidenced by being named Time Magazine’s Athlete of the Year. Judge thrived in a national spotlight with the game’s highest-profile team and also almost singlehandedly prevented a second-half collapse by the Yankees. Judge mashed at a .349/.502/.784 clip following the All-Star break, belting 29 home runs and reaching base in more than half of his 307 plate appearances. The rest of the lineup, meanwhile, looked utterly lifeless in the season’s final months; non-Judge Yankees hitters combined for a disastrous .223/.292/.360 slash after the All-Star break.
Those heroics simultaneously pushed the Yankees to a division crown in the AL East (thus landing them a first-round bye in the newly expanded playoff format) and painted a gruesome picture for Cashman and owner Hal Steinbrenner of just what a Judge-less Yankee team might look like moving forward. While Judge finally went cold with a 1-for-16 slump in a brutal ALCS that saw his team score just nine total runs in a sweep at the hands of the eventual-champion Astros, it’s unlikely the Yankees would’ve even reached that point had he not put the team on his back in such dramatic fashion.
By measure of wRC+, which weights for a hitter’s league environment and home park, Judge was 107% better than an average big league hitter in 2022. It’s the highest single-season mark any qualified hitter has posted since Bonds in 2004, and if you prefer to set Bonds aside for PED reasons, Judge’s 2022 wRC+ is the best of any hitter since Ted Williams in 1957. There’s no overstating just how remarkable his 2022 season proved to be.
Of course, Judge is hardly a one-year wonder. Setting aside some struggles in a brief 2016 call-up that saw him tally just 95 plate appearances, the former No. 32 overall draft pick has been one of baseball’s best hitters for the past six seasons. A 52-homer campaign in 2017 earned Judge not only a unanimous selection as the American League Rookie of the Year but also a second-place finish in AL MVP voting. Injuries impacted each of his next three seasons, however. Judge missed nearly two months in 2018 when he fractured his wrist upon being hit by a pitch, and he missed time in 2019-20 with a severe oblique strain and a pair of calf strains.
Over the past two seasons, however, Judge has appeared in 94% of the Yankees’ games and been among the game’s very best players in the process. In addition to his 2022 MVP win, he earned a fourth-place finish in MVP balloting in 2021 after slashing .287/.373/.544 with 39 home runs. Virtually every batted-ball metric under the sun supports the notion that Judge is a generational talent at the plate. He led the Majors in average exit velocity, hard-hit rate and max exit velocity in each of the past two seasons, according to Statcast, which also ranks Judge as MLB’s leader in “expected” slugging percentage and weighted on-base average in that span.
Judge’s power profile is so prodigious that it’s easy to overlook his defensive skill set, but doing so would undersell his all-around value. Listed at 6’7″ and 282 pounds, Judge might draw the assumption that he’s a plodding slugger who’s a liability with the glove, but that’s in no way reflective of reality. To the contrary, Judge’s 61 Defensive Runs Saved since his Major League debut tie him for eighth among all MLB players, regardless of position. Statcast placed his sprint speed in the 50th percentile among MLB players in 2022, while his arm strength landed in the 93rd percentile. Judge will surely slow down over the life of the contract, but at least for the time being, he’s even a viable option in center field, where he logged a career-high 632 innings this past season and turned in above-average marks in DRS, Ultimate Zone Rating and Outs Above Average.
Since Judge’s first full season came at age 25 and he’s set to turn 31 early in the first season of his new contract, it’s easy to see why the Yankees initially tried to limit the contract to a seven-year term. Instead, Judge’s legendary 2022 campaign pushed them to compete with other teams in free agency and offer a nine-year contract that will carry him through age 39. Long-term contracts paying even through age 38 have been exceedingly rare in the last decade. Arguably the only other player who’s done that without compromising on the average annual value is Mike Trout, who tacked on ten years and $360MM in a March 2019 extension. In contrast, Phillies-for-life Bryce Harper and Trea Turner accepted AAVs of $25.4MM and $27.3MM, respectively.
Judge’s aging curve will be an issue for another day. Looking at financial component of this agreement for 2023, it comes at an even larger cost to the Yankees than the bottom-line, $360MM guarantee. New York was about $5.8MM shy of the luxury-tax barrier prior to agreeing to terms with Judge, as projected by Roster Resource, and his $40MM AAV now catapults them into the second tier of luxury penalization.
As a second-time offender, they’re subject to a 30% tax on the first $20MM by which they exceed the luxury threshold and a 42.5% tax for the next $20MM. They’ll pay a 75% tax on the next $20MM by which they exceed the threshold and a 90% tax on every dollar spent thereafter. Judge bumps the Yankees to a projected $267.2MM worth of luxury obligations, meaning if the Yankees called it an offseason right now, they’d be on the hook for approximately $12.035MM in penalties. That seems unlikely, however, and any further additions will come with substantial taxes, as New York now sits $5.8MM shy of the third tier of penalties (and the aforementioned 75% tax rate). The Yankees have been reported to hold strong interest in free-agent ace Carlos Rodon, though it’s not clear whether Steinbrenner has the appetite for a $40MM AAV on Judge and an AAV approaching or even exceeding $30MM for Rodon.
It’s possible, if not likely, that they’ll look to get out from underneath the remainder of their onerous commitments to Josh Donaldson or Aaron Hicks via the trade market, but the Yankees would need to pay down a substantial portion of either player’s salary to facilitate such a trade (or take on another bad contract in return). There’s also been speculation about the Yankees possibly dealing from their sizable arbitration class, with infielder Gleyber Torres a commonly cited possibility.
Judge’s enormous AAV not only makes the Yankees a lock to repeat as a second-time luxury payor — it also makes them quite likely to be a third-time offender in 2024, when they’re already projected for nearly $170MM in luxury obligations. That figure doesn’t include any of the team’s arbitration-eligible players, and any multi-year additions this winter will increase that number. With Luis Severino, Frankie Montas and Harrison Bader all set for free agency following the 2023 campaign, the Yankees will likely be on the lookout for both rotation and outfield help in the next 12 to 15 months.
Those moving parts coalesce to demonstrate how quickly the Yankees’ luxury figure could balloon. Teams crossing the luxury tax for the third consecutive season are taxed at rates of 50% (first $20MM), 65% (next $20MM), 95% (next $20MM) and 110% (all dollars thereafter).
All of that is secondary to the Yankees, however, who entered the offseason hell-bent on retaining the league MVP and burgeoning franchise icon. They went to record-setting levels in order to make it happen, furthering the future market for star-caliber free agents in the process, but it’s surely a day for celebration in the organization regardless of any down-the-road consequences.
From a broader market perspective, Judge’s deal with the Yankees not only puts a bow on one of the highest-profile free agencies in recent memory — it’s also likely to serve as a facilitator for a flurry of subsequent moves. So much of the 2022-23 offseason hinged on Judge’s decision, that several teams and other top-tier free agents have been reluctant to act.
For instance, with Judge now remaining in New York, the Giants will likely turn their attention to the shortstop market, where they reportedly have Carlos Correa atop their list of targets. The Twins have been angling to re-sign Correa, but it was always in Correa’s best interest to see if the Giants might miss on Judge and jump into the bidding. If Correa departs Minnesota, the Twins reportedly view Xander Bogaerts as their top fallback option. As with Correa, then, it was in Bogaerts’ best interest to know where Judge landed before he made any sort of decision. All the while, the Red Sox have been hoping to keep Bogaerts, just as the Braves have been hoping to keep Dansby Swanson. But the Cubs, Dodgers and Cardinals have each been tied to the shortstop market, and the Padres have been aggressive in trying to add a marquee player of any shape or size and clearly still have money to spend.
The previously mentioned Rodon, too, likely needed to wait on Judge, given the Yankees’ interest. And it’s feasible that the next tier of free-agent pitchers, including Chris Bassitt and Kodai Senga, prefer to wait until Rodon comes off the board so that they can stand as the two top options and perhaps have increased leverage among rotation-hungry teams.
Viewed through that lens, Judge’s contract is far more than a watershed moment in Yankees franchise history, it’s a catalyst that’ll set off a chain reaction of franchise-altering decisions and megadeals throughout the sport — quite possibly within the next few days or weeks. While elated echoes of “All Rise” ring out through the Bronx, things are just getting started for the rest of the league.
Robrock30
Wow Great News Judge is King. Of course I wanted the Mets to draft him and I was right. Dom Smith is trying to latch on somewhere. It all comes out in the Wash. Lol
LouWhitakerHOF
I think Judge just used the Giants to drive up the price and then the Yankees match the price. I don’t think he ever had intentions of leaving NY.
LosPobres1904
Judge shouldn’t of had to do that. Yankees should of given him what ever he wanted.
TheDogDays
It’s called negotiations.
OIC2021
Stats do not lie:
Judge has averaged 167 strikeouts /yr on his 5 full seasons. I threw out the two years where he didn’t have a lot of at bats.
$40 MIL/yr divided by 167 = $239,521
EVERYTIME Judge strikes out , it’s going to cost the Yankees $239,521. OMG . They’re going to regret it. Couldn’t happen to a more rotten organization.
TheDogDays
He can strike out 200 times , and win mvp’s
iverbure
Giving a player whatever they want is a good way to never win and have a albatross contract on your hands.
bluejays4life
You realize with this logic the less strikeouts he has the more money it would be per strikeout? So you are encouraging more strikeouts to flatten the number?
OIC2021
FACTS
JUDGE has averaged 167 strikeouts/ yr based on his 5 full seasons
At $40 MIllion a year, he’s now going to be paid $239,521 every time he strikes out!
Could not happen to a more rotten organization.
larkraxm
They aren’t the Brewers. The Yankees can absorb all 40 million no problem, even if he went into a full Ellsbury.
toptekjon
Exactly right. And they better go out and get Rodon or a top tier pitcher somehow because Judge staying doesn’t make them any better. I’m extremely happy he is staying, but he wasn’t the reason they lost to Houston…again
OIC2021
For what it’s worth, the Guardians were a close runner up for Judge’s services.However, they pulled the wool over the Yankees eyes by signing Josh Bell for essentially only one year, maintaining financial flexibility for the future. Bell strikes out a fraction of the time compared to Judge.
It is why the Guardian organization has more appearances in the World Series over the last 12 years than do the Yankees.
BringToughnessBack
And never win a world series! Enjoy those MVP’s! I prefer championships and the Yankees just made another large contract albatross mistake.
Whybenormal
In this instance, stats do lie. With that calculation you’re assuming that Judge only gets paid when he strikes out. All other plate appearances do not matter and do not contribute to his pay. What would be better would be to find his average number of plate appearances per year, divide 40 million by that number, then multiply that number by 167 to get the “total amount of money earned by striking out”
OIC2021
This is what happen when you have a zero bail policy in New York. The inmates are running the asylum.
TheDogDays
Probably could have had more if the Yankees wouldn’t keep pummeling them in the playoffs.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
So you think he settled for 36mil aav. No matter what he got it was gonna be overpay.
arr3388
In your opinion, why are they so rotten?
Silas
TWENTY-SEVEN WORD CHAMPIONSHIPS.
let that marinate
Treehouse22
The inevitable decline will begin in 2023.
Ncsaint
@OlC2021 There is a job for you in FTX’s accounting department.
JrodFunk5
No they can’t. Cashman has been reluctant to pay the luxury tax and he was just extended.
triumph13
Wow. I hope Judge strikes out more so it costs the Yankees less money per strikeout. Imagine if he only strikes out 100 times next year? That’s 400k per strikeout!
Seriously, I’m sure the Yankees hope he strikes out 167 times every year the next nine years… because it would mean he’s playing almost every game.
OIC2021
You are what your stats say you are:
Judge on postseason play
In that series, Judge went 1-for 20 with 16 strikeouts. He is now 2-for-37 with 27 strikeouts against Cleveland in three postseasons (2017, 2020 and 2022). Those 27 strikeouts are the second-most against one opponent in the postseason, behind the Dodgers’ Duke Snider’s 33 against the Yankees.
Yankee Clipper
Regardless though, the article states other teams offered Judge even more money, so the Yankees weren’t even the highest offer.
JerryCavender
I tend to agree with you. Years 5-9 of that contract are gonna be rough!!
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Silas
They must be good Scrabble players
DUDDUS
Dude…I’m not a yankee fan but you’re just plain ignorant. Bell is nowhere near as valuable and still wouldn’t be if somehow he struck out zero times in a season.
JoeBrady
BB101-Ks don’t count nearly as much of the civilians think. It is all about a combination of K/W and HR/AB.
Sherm623
In Scrabble?
Gasu1
And if Judge ONLY STRIKES OUT ONCE for the rest of his career, it’s going to cost the Yankees $360M per strikeout. And the FEWER strikeouts ANY player gets, the MORE it is going to cost them per strikeout! So, what the heck ARE you thinking?
Gasu1
Luis Arraez is a terrific young player who only had 43 strikeouts this year in 603 PAs– best in the league. If the Twins had paid him $11M, he’d easily have higher $ per strikeout than Judge will. In fact, almost every player on a free agent salary, and even some in late arbitration, will have a HIGHER $ per SO than Judge. I suggest you actually test the calculation on two or three players with mid career salaries, you’ll see how off track this is. For example, Trout was $307,000 per strikeout in in last MVP year, 2019.
Prospectnvstr
Silas: How many of those 27 World Series Titles came in the last 20 yrs? Hint:it’s more than 0 & less than 2. How many of them were in your lifetime?
poolerh
The ONLY reason he won MVP this year is because he broke the AL homer record. Otherwise it goes to Ohtani. He is the true definition of “Three True Outcome” player. Take away the AB’s when he hits homers, and he’s a .181 hitter in 2022, and just under .180 for his career.
Baseball dude
What is a WORD CHAMPIONSHIP?
LordD99
Ah, the arbitrary begin-and-end dates game. Ok, I’ll play. You say 20, I’ll say 26. Then that’s seven AL titles and five World Series championships for the Yankees. It has been a slow start to the 21st century for the Yankees with four AL titles and two championships, but their slow periods are other teams peaks!
There are only two numbers that matter when counting titles. Most recent and most titles. The answer:
Most recent: Phillies. Congrats.
All time: Yankees. 27. Congrats.
All the rest of you are talking trash playing the part of Michael Spinks with Mike Tyson stalking you. You’re eventually going to lose. Badly.
LordD99
Sorry Phillies fans. I gave you a title. I meant the Astros. I was rooting for the Phillies!
OIC2021
Stats don’t lie:
Based on his 5 yr full year avg , Judge has averaged 42 HRs per year.
The Yankees will now be paying $951,381 per home run based on an average of 42 per year based on his $40 miilion per year salary .
The Yankees have NEVER made a World Series in Judge’s 7 year career.
This will not be reported on CNN or MSNBC
BaseballisLife
They won spelling bees?
triumph13
I thought they were paying him $239k per strikeout? So they are also paying $951k per HR? So overall $80M per year?
Next you will telling us how much they are paying him per walk, run, rbi, and HBP. Why not simply say $40M a year, for the next nine years, whether he plays or not?
stymeedone
How many in your lifetime?
Lanidrac
Actually, it’s only 160 Ks on average over his 6 full seasons while prorating 2020 to 162 games.
Anyway, let’s see, $40M divided by his average PA/season (not counting his 2016 cup of coffee and prorating 2020 to 162 games) of 556.8 divided by his career K% of 28.7% = $250,310.38 per projected strikeout.
Lanidrac
It wasn’t just because of the home runs that Ohtani won MVP. He put up a 207 wRC+ for Pete’s sake, not to mention positive marks on both his defense and baserunning, as well.
Besides, that’s a terrible way to cherry pick. Albert Pujols is a future Hall of Famer with a .296 career average, yet he only hit .250 if you take away all his ABs when he hit home runs.
Lanidrac
Sorry, I meant Judge, not Ohtani.
bronyaur1
How does a person clearly indicate he does not understand metrics without saying “I don’t understand metrics”?
bronyaur1
Maybe. Let’s see what sort of a recession happens next year, and how long it lingers.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Like statistics, do you, OIC? You’ll love this one:
“His 11.99 AB/HR ratio is third best in Major League history, behind only McGwire (10.61) and Babe Ruth (11.76).”
williemaysfield
I think I would take a hitter who hit 62 homers and batted .181. That would still be a productive hitter in today’s game
ws_champs
It’ll be hard to see Houston win again right away unless they replace Verlander’s production. They always seem to bring in new talent, but they’ve also let some major pieces go over the years including Cole, Correa, Springer.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
“You shouldn’t have done that, he’s just a boy”
DUDDUS
I genuinely don’t think they’ll miss Verlander much at all. They have a well above average rotation without him.
MWeller77
@BaseballisLife Also Speed Crossword Puzzle-Solving tournaments
MWeller77
@stymeedone I’m not a Yankee fan, but that’s kind of a silly argument. A 27-year-old has been alive for 5 Yankee titles. I’m 45, and I’ve been alive for 7. No other team has more in either time frame. It’s not like the Jeter Yankees or the Reggie Jackson Yankees won their rings during the Great Depression.
MWeller77
@FinkPloyed
“FACTS each Judge strikeout will cost the Yankees ONE BILLION DOLLARS stats don’t lie”
-OIC
goastros123
While also hitting juiced balls.
LosPobres1904
Lol yeah
The Virus
Padres offered Judge 400 million. He said no.
And signed for less somewhere else.
Padres offered Turner 368 million. He said no.
And signed for less somewhere else.
RobM
Ha. Love the Spinks/Tyson analogy, LD99. Arguing titles with Yankee fans is a guaranteed loss. Hey, why don’t I poke a bear while I’m at it.
DogDays2
Great stats OIC!
But most importantly, how much money will Judge earn per fielders choice??!
larkraxm
5 years from now, this contract won’t be in the top 10 for AAV. Wait till Juan Soto is a FA. You all seem to think that the market will freeze and in years 5-9 today’s market prices will still matter. This is what it costs to sign the AL MVP and American League HR record holder. You all seem jealous because your team can’t dine in that deli. That doesn’t make this a bad deal.
dasit
please take this to CJRPR (criminal justice reform policy rumors)
LosPobres1904
LMAO!!! wut?
LosPobres1904
No one was around for that
LordD99
@Stmeedone, If your question was directed to me (hard to tell with threading) then I’ve been fortunate to see quite a few Yankee championships. Eleven AL titles and seven World Series championships. I won’t count simple AL East titles and postseason appearances, which are cause for celebration for fans of many teams, but not to me as a Yankee fan. Too many to remember. I’ve also experienced an 18-year championship drought as well as the current 13-year drought. Haven’t experienced a losing season in over 30 years, and the last time the Yankees had losing seasons they quickly used it to build a dynasty.
I freely admit being a Yankee fan is great. Don’t worry, though. I make up for it by also being a New York Jets fan!
DogDays2
poolerh;
On a thread filled with bitter Yankee haters; some admittedly making good points and others just plain clueless, poolerh–you my friend , take the cake!!
Take away the AB’s when he homers?? Can you reach a bit further ??
why not: hey lets take away the AB’s that he strikes out? No, that would be a positive spin.
How about just: lets take away the homers? So you can say–look everyone !! Judge got this big contract and he has no power!!
lol unbelievable.
Yankee Clipper
L99: A……Jets fan? You know by law they are supposed to be Mets fans too, right? Let’s just hope the team police don’t read this.
But….. if you ever want to switch over, my friend, the G-men fans are always warm and welcoming to Yankees family.
The Jets…..ewwww
DogDays2
Just when I thought OIC and his pay-per-strikeout was the dumbest post ever, we have another contender!
its breaking down batting average without including home runs!!
I took the time to break it down further. If you don’t include homers, triples, doubles or singles….Judge hit exactly .000!
So apparently, Judge sucks!!
LordD99
Ahh, yes, Clipper. Yankee fans are supposed to be Giants and Rangers fans. I became an Islanders and a Jets fan. The Jets one involved a girl and free tickets. I actually do watch the Giants, so it’s not like a rivalry to me, but the Jets are my football team, and I’ve been punished. The Islanders are easier to explain. No one in my family was a hockey fan so I was left to my own devices. The Islanders were on the same radio as the Yankees, and John Sterling was the Islanders announcer. It just so happened it was during the Islanders years leading up to their dynasty years, so it was a fun ride. Still is. To this day, hockey remains my second favorite sport.
Yankee Clipper
True on all accounts! There’s still time to save your sports soul!
My cousin was a diehard Yankees fan and loved the Jets too. But I swear he was dropped on his head. Can’t blame him as his dad is a Phillies / Eagles fan. Poor kid grew up all kinds of confused.
Poster formerly known as . . .
I wonder how many times OIC has been audited.
poolerh
World championships since 2001…. 1
Let THAT marinate
Deadguy
Astros will be fine without verlander, Verlander looked better in a Astros uniform
Deadguy
Padres offered Bogats 200milli9n and he singed
kingbum
It wasn’t Cashman who wanted to stay below the luxury tax it was Hal the last few years. There’s a couple things though that made Hal do this. One is that he does not want to lose the New York Metro area to the Mets. Steve Cohen just replaced DeGrom with Verlander. Like that might be the only upgrade on the planet Earth from DeGrom. Steve Cohen has the deepest pockets in the league, Hal is just going to have to spend money. The other thing is about Yankee legacy. When do stars in their primes ever leave the Yankees, especially MVP caliber players? It never happens and Hal has the legacy of his father George to live up to.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
He has averaged 125 games a year if you exclude his limited time called up for his debut season and you assume his play for the 60 game season was the consistent pace for a full season and extrapolated to 162 games, in which case he’d have appeared in around 76 games that year due to injury.
If you exclude the shortened season and his debut season he has averaged 135 games per season.
If you average that all out for plate appearances per season, he’s at about 581 PA’s per season on average.
$40M divided by 581 x 167 = $11,497,418.2
So he makes $11,497,418.20 for his strike outs in a given year, on average. Or, $68,846.82 per strike out.
Gator50
Judge also has pulled a 163 OPS+ and 45 hrs per year over that time. He keeps that going and NOBODY cares about those strikeouts.
holycowdude
It’s “have,” not “of.”
wakaiwaka
Everybody knows you never go full Ellsbury
jopeness
at the allstar break and since, I wanted to offer 4@160 with a 5th option. but once Turner signed 11. knew it was a pipe dream
Buuba ho tep
Zip it troll
CaptainJudge99
@LordD99- I definitely feel you’re pain being a Jet’s fan. Just try to hang in there. At least we have our Yankees, and we never have to be Giants fans either, despite how bad being a Jet’s has been. lol.
larkraxm
It was reported on Morning Joe on MSNBC.
cainer18
By that logic, they’ll pay $0 for every home run, walk, RBI, and nice catch
Robrock30
Lou,
Bottom line is Cashman always gets his man. The only FA not retained that he wanted I can remember was Robbie Cano ( don’t ya know ) but Cashman was right in the end LOL
OIC2021
Kind of like when the Yankees wore cotton uniforms
titanic struggle
Cashman didn’t get Castillo. Word on the street in The Nati was he didn’t get him because he arrogantly talked down to Krall…they didn’t speak for the last two weeks leading up to the deadline.
MattyD 2
Sources??? or are you just talking out your blowhole.
ForeverGiantsFan
It looks like the Yankees need to cut some payroll or they will be paying a lot more for Judge than 40 million a year. Congratulations to the Yankees for resigning the best player in baseball.
judgementday99
I agree, Cashman was playing his usually games like he did with Mo, Bernie and Jeter and this time it bit him in the a##
Dr2022
Au contraire.It bit steinbrenner in the ass, he’s the one who has to the shell out the exra cash for it. Cashman is fine, and he was even brought to boot for four more years. So he’s not in any hot water, nor does he care. No skin of his back. When last seen, Cashman’s head was in multiple dumpsters and under numerous rocks, trying to find the players to fill out the rest of the roster lol.
dugmet
He flew last-minute to SD. He did not need their offer. He was open to possibilities, can’t say he used SF or SD.
CaptainJudge99
Where’s Jon Heyman right now?
bronyaur1
I think he is busy reporting on Custer’s decisive victory somewhere in the Dakotas.
dave 2
I think it’s more of a case of Judge was always going to take the highest offer and the Yankees were always going to make the highest bid. The Giants only had a chance to determine what the Yankees would pay.
BaseballisLife
Yankees didn’t make the highest offer. Two west coast teams outbid them.
Judge just decided he wanted to continue to play in a park best suited to his swing and his game and accepted a measily $360 million.
dave 2
There are 30 teams who would love to have Judge in their lineup. Probably about 25 of them didn’t even bother to make an offer. If baseball can’t fix that they have a problem.
Brewer67
They’ll regret this contract after about year 3 lol
MattyD 2
i think he will give them 4-5 good years
deej
The Giants were played. HARD.
ForeverGiantsFan
If Giants can sign Correa then they will have done ok by me. I don’t see how Yankees can sign Rodon. Giants even after Correa will still have plenty of money resign their ace. Last could add a lead off hitter. If they do that they will at least have a shot at making the playoffs.
ham77
He couldn’t walk away from that little league fence at yankee stadium.
The_M4N
Yes, because he just hits scrapers.
BaseballisLife
Statcast has a great chart that shows you exactly how many home runs he would have hit if he played his home games in any other park.
The_M4N
Correct, and only two of his 62 were Yankee Stadium only HRs. In fact, he hit 32 on the road (every 8.8 ABs) while hitting a HR at the Stadium every 10 ABs. There are a lot of players that have benefited from YS, Judge is not really one of them, yet. He would have hit more HR in 20 MLB stadiums. The guy has pop, everywhere.
BaseballisLife
That probably played a large part in his decision. The other two teams bidding on him play in parks with deep right field walls.
Gasu1
He’s a right handed batter.
CaptainJudge99
Like I was ever leaving???
Dogbone
Judge is a great player, and is probably worth close to what he received. However looking at it from a team concept, this will make it difficult to build a balanced ‘team’, without a massive salary structure- and some luck. IMO, Yankees acted out of desperation.
TheDogDays
As a Yankee fan, I agree and have some concerns.
GoogleMe
Yikes. Yankees got got.
Yankee Clipper
I understand your point and agree. But aren’t all teams acting out of desperation? Giants and presumably the Padres offered Judge even more money to get his services there. Yankees offered him less.
I am concerned about how they’re going to build around him, but they have a ton of money coming off the books in the next two years. That’s why I think Hal did this. Add in the young core of talent that they trust and they see an inexpensive team for a few years.
Balk
Yankeeclip….see what I was saying? The Giants wouldn’t be outbid, it was going to boil down to where Judge wanted to play. Twitter last night was hilarious. Mistweets, people cussing at Giants fans and how it’s a bad contract, now all yankee fan posts are deleted because it was their own teams bid! Hahaha. Glad this one is over! Hahaha
Unclemike1525
Gee who saw this coming? LOL. I said when it started he wasn’t going anywhere. Why would he? Yawn. Good now we can move on. To the real question, How much of Stanton’s contract do they have to eat to move him Clipper? LOL
Yankee Clipper
Probably 80%!
Dr2022
This is great news for the Yankees clip. I agree also with your sentiment completely, now we can watch with baited breath while Cashman does his dumpster diving ,and search under rocks to fill out the rest of the roster. Thereby ensuring that the team will not be improved from last year.
Poster formerly known as . . .
The report is that the Giants offered the same $360M and the Padres offered 10 years and $400M.
If it were me, I’d be singing with Jimmie Rodgers, the Singing Brakeman: “I’m goin’ to California where they sleep out every night.”
Dr2022
Stanton‘s not going anywhere. This is a pipe dream people continue to promulgate. Now moving Hicks and Donaldson, is doable, that is if we had a GM with some chops such as Theo Epstein, but Cashman I doubt it. Maybe he will surprise us. The Yankees would have to kicking some cash and prospects to make a deal happen. Which I would be fine with.
Deadguy
Why didn’t he take the 400 million to play with San deigo?
Balk
Hippy…it was always about Judge and his return to the Yanks. He played the free agent market is all, to get what he wanted
compassrose
Well Yankee fans congrats. Wish he went to the Giants. We don’t see you that many times mYbe in playoffs we can just intentionally walk him evert at bat. Lol I hope you miss on any other big names and only get scrubs. I know how a guy like that is important to the team. Felix was our last one wish he could have finished career here like Edgar. Congrats though nice to see him staying home.
Yankee Clipper
Thanks, man. But we will see you all on Opening Day with the new schedule, which is pretty cool!
compassrose
That will be fun. I didn’t remember that have too much dumb stuff in my head and the memory is full. I am excited to see the Ms go against the best teams this year. Haven’t felt that way in a long time.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Clipper took you for a Giants fan, compassrose. The Giants are playing the Yankees on Opening Day next year.
Melchez17
Judge wouldn’t have had access to the magical medical wonders of the Yankee clubhouse.
Did you notice this “comical” season is very close to an average season by Barry Bonds? Bonds would be in the Hall if he would have been a Yankee.
bmp010
In
realisticnyyfan
It has happened!!!!!
itsgonnahappen
This will be awesome in 5 years.
Jonthunder
Guys are already making more, per year, at 10+ years older.
I have a feeling that it won’t look nearly as bad as some of the 50-60MM deals, on the way.
koldjerky
Those guys are also signed to 1-2 year deals. You can overpay on short deals.
larkraxm
Five years from now, this will be a “normal” contract AAV.
Lanidrac
Plus, those guys have already proven that they’ve beaten the odds to continue to play well into late 30s.
Chriss
Or is it Arson Judge?
louwhitakerisahofer
You’ve been sitting on this all off-season. Lol
ham77
Heyman will never live that one down.
Eatdust666
Lmao
ArianaGrandSlam
Wow! Looks like Yankees is NOT going to the WS for another nine years!
TheDogDays
Lol yeah, keep hating!
southern lion
ArianaGrandSlam…..
Cool screen name. 🙂
toomanyblacksinbaseball
But they’ll beat the dog out of the Twins in the first round.
GhostofRandySavage
Because they signed the best offensive player in baseball? Lol
Poster formerly known as . . .
It’s been 13 years — so there, smarty pants!
Cincyfan85
I don’t know why I thought it’d be neat to see him go to the Giants. Slightly disappointed… for no real reason lol.
StreakingBlue
Agreed as a Dodger fan Giants need some star talent. Tired of east coast noise.
DTD/ATL1313
Tired of East Coast noise? Dodgers and Padres are constantly talked about
sophiethegreatdane
I’m betting they pivot to the SS market and lock one of them up. The Giants are not done by a long shot. They’re probably better off spreading it around a little anyhow.
Ma4170
Agree I think they’ll break the bank for Correa now and possibly Nimmo
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Ohtani?
Total.media blitz……
The numbers don’t match.
jekporkins
Dang you read my mind. That’s exactly what I think will happen. And I will be much happier with that.
Samuel
Ma4170;
I got attacked for it yesterday (nothing new), but I don’t think big name free agents want to go there at this point. The Giants have a few good players as all teams do, but to a large degree that roster is made up of utility players that are being used in spots shown by analytics to be good fits for them. There is no real core of players. A guy like Correa would be better with the Cubs or Twins to start. With the shortage of CF’s in MLB Nimmo can go to his choice of 6-8 teams.
You’re talking about giving these players 5-plus years at age 30. They don’t want to wait a few years till a core emerges to contend. They want to contend NOW.
What fans think of their Giants team and what professional baseball players think of their team are 2 different things.
Anything can happen and people can laugh at me if circumstances change.
Ma4170
You could be right, but I’ve seen enough players now talk about winning or location being so important, and then contradict it by going for the most money. So I can’t see them coming away with just Haniger this offseason. I could be wrong – we’ll see how the next few months play out.
Samuel
Ma4170;
For sure they come away with more than Haniger. But I doubt it’ll be the upper level of the free agents. It’ll be more guys like Haniger. Guys trying to re-establish themselves. If the Giants improve then next year they can go after FA’s again and possibly have more success.
Take a step back and look – do believe that a Correa or Nimmo looks at going to the Giants and being able to compete with the Dodgers and Padres in the next year or two?
Ma4170
I wouldn’t think so, and I’m surprised more big FAs don’t only go to legitimate current contenders with real windows to win
EastCoastGiant
So true. I can’t think of a reason why any player would come to SF right now except money and that doesn’t count the same because of the CA tax rate.
EastCoastGiant
Lol the fa market next year is pretty bad.
foppert
You didn’t get attacked because of the content, you got attacked for the egotistical repetition.
frugalfarhan
Always a bridesmaid never a bride thanks Farhan!
El Chupacabra
Good. Now the rest of the market will continue moving.
Prospectnvstr
frugal: Did you happen to see the offer they gave him? You can’t make (force) a player to sign a free agent contract.
Mystery Team
Never a doubt both sides need each other the money doesn’t matter when it comes down to it they’ll both make a ton off each other over the next decade.
Sideline Redwine
The “money doesn’t matter”. Sure. Lol.
Mystery Team
Do you realize how much money the Yankees make every year? This $360M is a drop in a bucket and well worth it considering how much money Judge will make this team over the next nine seasons. Like I stated earlier the money means nothing the Yankees will gladly pay it. Even if he spends 20% of the contract on the IL he will still make the Yankees a huge profit on their investment.
jakec77
How do you figure?
Yes, the Yankees make a lot of money. They made a lot of money before Judge, and they will make a lot of money after Judge.
So how exactly are you calculating that they will make a “huge profit” off this $360 million investment?
BaseballisLife
Ask Arte Moreno why he says that the Pujols contract made him money.
Mystery Team
That’s the Angels you can’t compare the Angels and Yankees. The Yankees are a world wide juggernaut and the Angels are well not. The Yankees print money.
Mystery Team
How much Judge merch do you think the Yankees will sell in the US? How much world wide? Every year for the next nine years they’ll be selling boat loads of Judge merch and make no mistake it will sell sell sell. How many public appearances do you think Judge will make for the Yankees in that time? How about after he retires, how much merch do you think they’ll sell with his name on it? Hats, jersey’s, bats, gloves. All rise the Judge is in session. How many different catch phrases do you think they can come up with for a guy named Judge? I can’t believe this has to be explained to baseball fans. There’s a reason the Padres and Giants were tripping over themselves to sign him and if you think it’s to help them win you’re out of your mind. Winning is secondary it’s about money and making the most you possibly can. Aaron Judge is the perfect baseball specimen. He’s a big tall good looking kid with a great attitude oh and by the way he mashes. He and Ohtani are the two brightest stars in the sport. He had to stay and the Yankees had to keep him at all cost.
CaptainJudge99
I can just taste the bitterness. lol.
rondon
The SS market is gonna get even crazier.
Gwynning's Anal Lover
No way! Great news. A little drama with all of the teams in on Judge this off season.
sean-11
BUT WHAT ABOUT ARSON?!?
southern lion
I would advise against it…..it’s illegal.
aroid95
Now that the entire AL plays the entire NL, it’s gonna be awesome when Arson Judge faces Aaron Judge every year.
Astros2017&22Champs
Plz someone explain to me what arson judge is?
MuleorAstroMule
Astros: Heyman tweeted that “Arson Judge” was going to the Giants.
This one belongs to the Reds
He probably thought that was a “hot take”.
Dad
My new favorite player
CaptainJudge99
Thank you Dad!
Josh5890
No way the Yankees were going to let Judge go.
Plugnplay
This statement is always false. It’s always up to the player, not the team in free agency in where a player goes.
Prospectnvstr
Yep,just like Freddie wanted to stay in Atlanta but he (& his agent) had to play the wait them out game and lost. So, he had to settle for the Dodgers. Even so, he still got his money. However, if it were possible I’m pretty sure that he’d rather have a “do over”.
IndianRye
Never liked him but I’m happy for him
avenger65
I’m anxious to see if the networks can cram even more Yankees games into their schedules.
TheDogDays
Nah, the country needs more D-Backs!
Prospectnvstr
I’d rather see some of the weaker young teams as they get their feet wet & mature than being force fed Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Mets most of the time. I’m a baseball fan, so I’ll watch whatever is available but it does get VERY OLD seeing the same handful of teams.
knolln
I don’t watch anymore yankee games than I have to, But why? The guy saying they need each other is halfway right that judge could make his brand huge and salary somewhat secondary. But he doesn’t seem big on that and seems really humble and fairly media avoidant. Certainly you’re not down on his bat, glove, or arm I wouldn’t think
IndianRye
I’m not a hypocrite or anything so I can tell that he’s a good player when he isn’t striking out. I personally just don’t like the guy. His appearance is such a turn off that I can’t stand to watch him play.
TheDogDays
Lol sorry Judge isn’t sexy enough for you.
The_M4N
Although, he was just voted one of the sexiest man (#4 exactly).
IndianRye
Not sexy at all,in fact very unattractive. My wife and I gag everytime he’s on the TV. No need to apologize.
IndianRye
Everyone knows those lists are rigged lol
Yanks2
Terrible all together. Yankees will regret it in 3 years when he’s an injury-prone DH that can’t play outfield or even first base. There goes their World Series title possibilities for the next decade
TheDogDays
Yeah, sure.
theonlydynasty
Can’t play the OF???? Do you even watch the games?? Judge is a phenomenal defensive player. Stop hating for the sake of hating.
HarrytheK0880
I think he’s implying that as Judge ages his large body will begin to break down, relegating him to DH duties. I personally love watching great players and hope Judge outperforms the contract.
TheDogDays
He will break down eventually, but not at 34 lol
Ma4170
Unfortunately w his body type and injury history he won’t break down, but he’ll miss a lot of time. But nobody can argue when healthy he’s a beast and he’s the face of the franchise. How could they not sign him?
drfelix
I can already the Boos coming late in the season for Judge lol
TheDogDays
Obviously, he understood the temporary frustration last season. Not a big deal.
Yankee Clipper
I’ll stand in front of 45,000 people for 162 straight games for 10 years and let them boo me for three hours a night for $40MM / year….
The_M4N
But I bet Trout is worth every penny because he plays 155 games every year.
foppert
Ouch. That’s going to sting for a while.
Enjoy the opposite of that Yankee fans.
slider32
Not really, Yankees made over 800 million last year, and still will spend to get top players. I think they add a starter, and another relief pitcher and maybe an outfielder.. Even with signing the Yanks will have 50 million to spend next year. I can see Volpe and Peraza in the infield and with Donaldson gone next year they coulld have 3 starters making minimum.
foppert
Ha ha. The sting is what I’m feeling. The Yankees are golden. Enjoy
This one belongs to the Reds
With the kind of advantage over everyone they can do whatever they want. Prime example of what is wrong with the sport.
They just drive salaries into the stratosphere where only they can get the top players.
And folks still wonder why baseball is not as popular as it was…
TheDogDays
Yes. They should just pocket the money and not try to win.
This one belongs to the Reds
Only a large market fan would make such an asinine comment.
TheDogDays
That take is so 10 years ago. You just had the Giants basically make the same bid lol.
Not to mention money franchises like the Dodgers, Mets, Red Sox, Phillies, Rangers….
TheDogDays
Insulting me isnt really making a point.
larkraxm
That advantage is why they win the world series every year. I can’t even remember the last time the Yankees didn’t win the World Series.
tesseract
Yea not sure why people think this is a huge monetary commitment for one of the biggest teams in professional sports. It is not
This one belongs to the Reds
You do understand there are 30 teams in baseball, right? It is not about the Yankees (I know, their fans don’t get that) but everyone else.
@DogDays
The point had already been made. The fact you didn’t get it said all there was to say about your agenda.
TheDogDays
But the point is stupid…
Wake up , it’s not 1979!
Clepto_
Reds: I literally laughed aloud when his stupid counterpoint named teams that proved your point, not his.
TheDogDays
It’s so laughable.
Him: Yankees can do what they want, can outspend anyone.
Mine: other teams are on same level.
Clepto: no, you’re making his point.
Huh? Lol
Clepto_
As he said, and remains completely correct: only a large market fan would make such an assinine comment.
And you were dumb enough to go right ahead and list them for us.
Nice work. You win the Internet today.
This one belongs to the Reds
@Clepto
I thought the same thing.
TheDogDays
Let me help : in debate normally….. when someone makes a point, then the other attempts to undermine the point, which is what I did.
But then you two idiots can only respond with insults.
Btw, the “You win the internet” barb was overused like 10 years ago. Feel free to create an original thought.
TheDogDays
Blame the Yankees because the Reds are cheap and have no fans.
Clepto_
Another debate phenom: when someone’s assinine point fails, one turns to derailing the main point with irrelevant comments and statements to mask the original failure on one’s point. In this case, claiming to be insulted, (after making at least multiple snarky, insult-natured comments in past day on your own), and being repetitive about points being 10yrs ago, 1979 nonsense.
Nice try son, but you obviously are wrong and its noted. I hope you have a good day and a joyous holiday season.
DogDays2
@DogDays
He’s just ornery because he lives in Kentucky.
Your “agenda” lol
Btw, the Padres made a huge offer to Judge too. Big market franchise.
TheDogDays
Lol
How did the point fail? Explain.
Try to converse like an adult.
And you missed another point, you attempted to insult. I didn’t say I was. Cmon man, get some coffee and try to make sense.
CarverAndrews
The beauty of baseball is that the large markets do have a competitive advantage for sure – what spending huge dollars can do is get a team into the playoffs far more often than not. And if I lived in Oakland or Cincinnati or Pittsburgh etc this would upset me.
But the flip side is that succeeding in the playoffs is a whole different kettle of shekels. Of all of the major sports, the nature of the game of baseball makes it far less likely that a team can simply steamroll to the World Series every year, despite buying up lots of top players. And that keeps it more entertaining. Lower tier markets can get into the dance and get hot.
DogDays2
Reds and Clepto are like a dumb tag team.
TheDogDays
Well said Carver , completely agree.
My issue was with the original comment that somehow still thinks the Yankees are in a financial stratosphere by themselves.
guynamedchris
I’m pretty sure the OP was saying it stings, for the Giants, to miss out on Judge.
CarverAndrews
They Yankees WERE in that stratosphere to themselves for a long time; now you can argue first and second tier large markets. The Dodgers, Yanks and Mets can squeeze more out of their humongous markets than the next tier down, and that is an advantage.
One of the methods that the Dodgers use is operational costs, where they outspend everyone at last check, and by a large margin. They had so many well-paid senior advisors that were former GM’s, and more AGM’s and next tier down folks that they could assign personal scouts for every prospect with valet service. Gets around luxury tax implications, while utilizing the vast resources at their disposal to their advantage in other ways.
As a Phils fan – clearly it is a large market with an advantage, but it does not approach the potential revenue stream of the big guns. Not complaining however…if the Rays can figure out how to continue to draft and develop year after year and if Cleveland can pipeline pitching like no one else, then my team needs to get its act together.
CaptainJudge99
That all went well.
foppert
Yes he was ! And it’s still stinging….
Cleon Jones
Called it!
Clepto_
Real stretch call. Nice work.
TheDogDays
“Player Rep” Jeff Passan out scooped by Jon Morosi.
Yankee Clipper
I can’t believe Heyman was wrong……….AGAIN
TheDogDays
You feeling better?
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, man. Honestly, I felt fine either way with where the prices were going. $360MM is hefty brother but I’m glad he’s a Yankee lifer. He should be.
Now, they just need to stop the excuses, acquire Rodon, get Reynolds and fast forward to opening day.
TheDogDays
Agreed. I was resigning myself to the fact he might leave. But I’m happy it worked out. He’s just a good guy to root for.
.
Clip, Congrats my friend!
Yankee Clipper
Thanks Trumbo! Glad to see Judge took less (if you can call $360MM less!) to come back to NYY. It shows it wasn’t solely about the money anyway.
He respects the Yankees brand and knows what it’s going to do for him and his career by staying. I’m glad to see it because he’s a good role model.
The_M4N
I hope so. Rodon could happen. Reynolds, I just don’t see it. (Although it would be awesome.)
Dr2022
I agree clip. But do you really think the Yankees are going to make all those signings? The judge contract will now be Steinbrenner’s official excuse for pennypinching, for years to come. Now if the miraculous occurs, and we can unload some deadwood contracts like Donaldson or Hicks or maybe even DJ at this point, the latter who never seems to be healthy, maybe the Yankees would have some money to spend under the self-imposed salary cap. Epstein could have and has done such deals, but Cashman, doubt he has the chops or the nerve for it.
Danieley3
Third/Fourth place in the AL East for the next decade, damn. Terrible contract Cashman/Steinbrenner. Shouldnt have gone a dollar over $180 million… We shouldve let him walk to San Fran.
TheDogDays
Yeah, that makes so much sense.
luclusciano
Aside from losing Taillon, they didn’t change from last year, and were by far the best in the AL.
vtbaseball
Best in the AL? Really? Houston would like to have a word…
Leeeenya
Huh? Please.. HOU was the best team in the AL by far and likely will be for the next few years (barring injuries).
luclusciano
My apologies – AL EAST – left it out. Houston was def better
TheDogDays
No, he’s definitely right. The Orioles will be better this year!
Lol ridiculous
Samuel
TheDogDays;
You need to watch some of the Orioles games. They know how to play winning baseball, and have an outrageous amount of extremely talented young players that are going to continue to get better…..and unlike the national sports media and fans, don’t think the players, managers and FO people of the other AL East teams don’t know it.
Samuel
And TheDogDays……
Add that Sig Mejdal their chief analytic man (among other things) that set up the Astros operation and is respected as possibly the best in MLB, is looking at data that you and all the rest of us fans have no idea about.
TheDogDays
Samuel: I give the Orioles credit , they’ve made some great strides but I just don’t see the Yankees finishing in fourth for a few consecutive years.
Samuel
TheDogDays;
Yankees finish 4th? I didn’t see that (have a lot of trolls on Mute).
The Yankees are moving some youngsters onto the team after stressing D – starting with a terrific catcher. They also got a sensational pitching coach 3 years ago that has done great for them.
I do think the Red Sox are in a rebuild, so it may take a few years for them to contend. The Rays always seem to be there. But I don’t like the Jays at all – believe they’ve peaked. They keep bringing in and looking for established players that are at their peaks or beginning to descend from them. Don’t like their pitching – they don’t seem to develop much of their own. Would like them more if they were brining in youngsters that can play today and have years of upside. Appears they don’t have many that they have faith in other than Moreno…and he’s not getting a lot of playing time. In short – the Jays are what they are.
So for sure the Yankees will be at least a contender for a playoff spot in the near future, and are probably the favorites along with the Rays for the AL East title going into 2023….but I do have some questions about the Rays (I watch a lot of their games).
The O’s are coming. The only question is how fast….and they will be contender for at least 5 years.
saluelthpops
As proof by their appearance in the World Ser . . . Oh, wait.
avenger65
The Orioles will be better in 2023. Yankees showed this season just what a fast start gets you.
C Yards Jeff
Great move. The pressure of being top dog pay wise on the biggest MLB stage will not faze him. Stay healthy young fella!
Side note: Personally, I think Stanton (sans Cole) didn’t like being top dog pay wise and it showed. Pressure off, he goes off.
TheDogDays
Lol sure. I won’t be able to find you in August.
Samuel
TheDogDays;
If it’s me your talking to, I’ll be here,
And what were you looking at this past August?
slider32
No, until injuries set in this team was the best in baseball. The additions of Montas at the deadline more than upgrades this team. The playoffs are outlier, the Dodgers won 111 last year and were considered the best team moving into the playoffs. Past years, Braves and Nats were wild cards. The best teams don’t always win in the playoffs in any sport. Remember the Giants beating the Pats!!
Samuel
slider32;
While they’re getting younger – the right thing to do – the Yankees are basically an old team. Old players get injured more often and take longer to heal. Every year guys like you come on here and tell us how the Yankees would have done better but they had injuries….like no other team did.
The_M4N
That’s all we heard last season.
jeralves79
As a Red Sox fan, I love this. Judge is a great player, but this is a massive overpay for a 31 year old injury prone player. Hard to believe this signing will age well.
TheDogDays
It won’t age well. Even the Yankees don’t expect it too. But in the meantime….
Otto371
Couldnt agree more, but, the Yankees can afford it and they keep their star player. Everyone knows it wont age well but its just the cost of doing business. If they win a title in the next 9 years its allnworth it.
jeralves79
I see your point. When the yanks got Stanton, the analysts said that a title or two would make it worth it. Then when they signed Cole, they said two titles would make it worth it. Now they’ll say 2 titles with make this deal worth it. Here they sit without a title since ‘09, which in the Bronx is an eternity. They are still an incredibly flawed team. They brought back Judge for a huge amount, but the team as currently constructed isn’t even as good as it was last year. They have a team full of aging stars on the wrong side of 30. Pitching staff is still a question mark and they proved again in ‘22 that just trying to out slug everyone rarely works in the postseason. Just my opinion of course.
Samuel
jeralves79
B I N G O !!!!!
Many in our society live by narratives which create myths which they regurgitate.
Like the cells in our bodies everything is constantly changing.
DogDays2
Flawed maybe but incredibly flawed?
The Yankee haters here talk about them like thy won 70 games last year.
pmollan
As a Brewer fan, I mostly agree with your assessment, except that for the Yankees the $$$ doesn’t matter. It’s a drop in the bucket compared to YES revenue alone.
avenger65
For those who think Judge is going to have 2022 numbers in 2023, it ain’t gonna happen. Still, probably the best walk year stats in history.
TheDogDays
Who thinks that?
The_M4N
Well, absent a five year stretch where a bunch of Hulk’s were playing, there have been only three seasons like the season Judge had last year. So, to say that 2023 ain’t gonna be like 2022 is not saying much.
The_M4N
@Jeralves79, don’t worry so much about the Yanks. You guys up there have even bigger problems with your homegrown talent who can’t get outta there fast enough.
sliderwithcheeze
Dumb. Take back Cashmans extension.
Viveleempireevil
Bwa-hahahahaha!!!
Dbacks44
I’m shocked he didn’t go to where he wanted As a kid. Good luck with the fans booing you when you don’t hit in the playoffs. Only thing I can think is he will enjoy 15 more hrs a year with that ballpark.
FloridaSportsGuy
You’re really shocked? I’d be more shocked if Judge wasn’t just using the Giants to force the Yanks to pay him more.
DogDays2
Maybe he enjoys being in contention every year.
The_M4N
Yep, because he only hits them at the Stadium (32 of his 62 were on the road) and he hits wall scrapers (his shorted was 355′).
30 Parks
You paying attention John Henry & Chaim Bloom? The Yankees understand legacy. Good on the Yanks for paying Judge and cultivating said legacy.
vtbaseball
That is the difference between the yankees and Red Sox. Henry had his chance at building a legacy but, piece by piece, he’s blowing up the core that would’ve gotten him there.
Otto371
Can you remind me whose won more World Series’ since Henry bought the Red Sox? I think his “legacy” is something most fanbases would take in a heartbeat.
luckyh
Still good with his Legacy. Carry on!
Otto371
I understand your point overall and I agree with you, but its not like they are spurning their own players and not winning anything. They won since the infamous Lester lowball. And I want Bogaerts back more than anyone.
slider32
The Sox have been dormant to this point, They have come up short on some average players which should be concerning!
aragon
good.
tedtheodorelogan
Giants need to sign Rodon, Correa, and Nimmo today or they will have an empty stadium next year.
Cleon Jones
Correa definitely going to SF,
frugalfarhan
Correa will cost 250 million and bat .275 with 20 HR and 75 RBI’s not worth it. Xander is the only option left
cwsOverhaul
Respectfully believe you are light on the 250 for Correa. He and Boras will likely beat the 300mil guaranteed Turner just got, especially knowing he left money on the table. Twins may get used for leverage, but SF may also have to contend with Cubs (or Dodgers) bidding his price up.
fitted54
Xander is lucky to put up the numbers mentioned above I’ve seen X play his entire career
Ma4170
X has been better than Correa to this point. But if his power drop off last year continues, then you’re spot on. You watch him regularly – any speculation as to why the power numbers are falling? Ahh and OBP still rock solid.
Ma4170
Of course that’s supposed to say avg, not ahh
foppert
Need a leader and they are defence focussed. All reports are good on both those front so Correa for me.
Chipsss
They won’t sign any of those players. Haniger top contract.
tedtheodorelogan
Unfortunately I’d tend to agree with you.
EastCoastGiant
Not getting any of those players, maybe the bargain basement version of those players.
DBH1969
Wow
Cleon Jones
Surprised he settled at 40AAV considering what Bellinger got. So AJ is basically twice plus a little better than CB?
Holy Cow!
He is twenty times better.
TheDogDays
Kind of a difference between a nine year contract and one.
mike127
Do the math again Cleon—-Judge hit 62 home runs and got $40M. Bellinger hit 19 home runs and got $12M. Roughly three times the money for three times the homers. Seems like Belli set Judge’s market. 🙂
DCartrow
It’s not for the Giant fans to Judge, baby!!
You ain’t Big Apple anymore!!
You the land of Ricearoni and Paul Pelosi!!
Giants need to move back to Coogan’s Bluff…build a brand new repluca of the Polo Grounds, and geat real again!
Ella B
DC, are you okay?
pmollan
Does he get the captain title?
Milwaukee-2208
Now that he’s got his money his effort and production will drop off and the injuries will start back up again. Happens for most of these big big contracts.
TheDogDays
He’s no Yelich.
Milwaukee-2208
And judge is no captain like Jeter
At least Jeter hit in the playoffs and doesn’t fold under pressure
TheDogDays
I love Jeter but when was he as productive as Judge just was in 2022?
luclusciano
I hear you – BUT – Jeter was a life time over .300 hitter and was literally one of the most clutch post season hitters any team has had. He is generally ranked in the top 5-10 all time for post season hitters. Judge had a historic season, but he needs to prove he can be that clutch player in the post season.
TheDogDays
Oh I completely agree and I think he realizes that.
BucksPackersBrewersWow!
That’s a lot of $ to swing a piece of lumber 4 or 5 times a day.
pmollan
His 9 year deal is basically the entire Brewer payroll for the next 3 seasons.
YankeesBleacherCreature
A little shy of $50K per AB or $246K per game or (for the cynics) $7.5MM to strike out (150x) per season.
rememberthecoop
Hey, where is Clipper & Jumbo? I wanted to congratulate them on getting their guy. I kept saying they were going to do it – they had to.
YanksFan22
Good. Big question becomes what they do after this to make this team better.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Sign Rodon or Senga. Dump Aaron Hicks and JD. Sign some bench guys. Wait for Volpe to be ready.
casorgreener
Yankees have the money but this will be a terrible deal in years. Miggy 2.0. Good for Judge. Great for my Astros!! Let’s keep avoiding these clown deals!
Viveleempireevil
Exactly. And with the money you save you can buy a lifetime supply of new garbage can lids.
kscheer
Should have taken the money from SF.
Crunchtime1969
Another Roger Maris. Remember Roger?
Augusto Barojas
There was a headline yesterday about the Giants being ready to annnounce the deal or something. I think better for baseball that Judge stays with the team he’s always been on. Plus I would not have wanted to see the Yankee ownership tantrum signing Rodon and everybody else in response to missing on Judge.
The latter end of the contract almost undoubtedly will be an albatross when the time comes, but Judge is the kind of player that can make the difference between winning a World Series, or not. If they win once, will make the contract totally worth it. I think good chance they will.
canadianyankee
Happy for Judge, happy for Yankee fans, anxious to see who they surround him with going forward…the deal had to include bringing in talent…years 7,8 and 9 will be difficult to listen to NYY fans that are celebrating today…Judge is pure class and as the next Yankee captain, he’s following in legendary footsteps en route to monument park, he’s earned every dollar already
PinstripedPride
We got him!!! My goodness I don’t know about that $40 million AAV, but it does feel good to keep the star in the Bronx!
EastCoastGiant
I respect your decision but you’re wrong and you’re dead to me Aaron.
Viveleempireevil
Thanks Mr. O’Leary!!! LOL!!!
AndyMeyer
Giants now pivot to the shortstops
scottn59c
They’re going to get spurned there, too, if they insist on moving one of the stud FA’s over to 2B in deference to Brandon Crawford.
TellItGoodbye
If it’s Correa, Crawford moves to 2B
scottn59c
If it’s Correa, he can go bang a trash can for a year.
EastCoastGiant
Wake up. Giants aren’t landing any of the top FAs. Am I bitter? Yes. Doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
Saint Nick
Hearing the Braves were a close 7th offering 1 yr/20M.
goastros123
They’re gonna have to spend more. Running back the exact same team as last year will just end up in disappointment again.
Joe says...
Wait a minute!! You mean Jon Heyman was wrong?!?!?!
Fooque2
3/4 decent seasons if they are lucky……..wow
alwaysgo4two
They’re paying him based on his career year, which he’ll never hit again. Teams will just pitch around him. Who else in the lineup is scary? This was done through the media pressure. No way that the Yankees wanted to go to nine.
TheDogDays
Yeah, he’ll just hit 50
The_M4N
@alwaysgo4two “Who else in the lineup is scary?”
“Gary is scary!” Oh wait, no longer a Yankees player.
DogDays2
what does “scary” mean? A team doesn’t have to have a murderers row to win a title.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
And the Condo in Bermuda?
ASapsFables
Giants the bridesmaid for the second time with the two highest paid free agent OF’s. First Bryce Harper and now ‘local’ star Aaron Judge. They’ll now have an opportunity to get in a bidding war with the other NYC team for CF Brandon Nimmo, among others suitors including the Blue Jays.
Bright Side
I happy for Judge, but I think he’ll be the greatest Yankee never to have a ring. I’ve convinced myself that the Yankees will never win a WS with Hal and Cashman running things.
slogar1
Giants drove up the price on the Yankees, lol. Now, they can concentrate on fixing several holes and have money left over. Feels like SF is in the free agent driver’s seat now!
The_M4N
Yes. I am sure the former NYC team only wanted to drive the price up. That was the master plan all along. Brilliant!!!
koldjerky
Holy overpay. This won’t be good the last 5 years
Bright Side
He’s got skills that age well. He’s a better athlete than Pujols. Now Trea Turner and 11 years, not so much.
Hello, Newman
Better athlete than Pujols? Yes.
Better baseball player? Mmm, yeesh
The_M4N
Cardinals’ Pujols or Angels’ Pujols.
I kidd!
koldjerky
I’m not sure if he’ll stay healthy. Turner May decline but even 2 years longer on the deal he’s making 13 mil less per year. I’d take Turners deal over Judges every day.
avenger65
We’ll talk about it when judge hits his 700th.
The_M4N
Okay. Wake up.
LordD99
Doesn’t matter. The Yankees will pay for this deal within three seasons. They made $40MM in additional revenue off Judge in one home stand last year. They’ll do with Judge what they did with A-Rod. He’ll be retired early if need be and the Yankees will have banked a ton of money off the deal.
rocky7
Come on Cash….we’re not done yet……go get Rodon and Reynolds!
Bright Side
Yeah, let’s overpay for another Boras client. Bringing back Rizzo and Judge don’t make the Yankees better, only the same. Get Nimmo. That would impress me.
benhen77
A CF who only is healthy half the season? Seems redundant with Bader already there.
rocky7
What team isn’t over paying for talent these days…..So, in your opinion Nimmo is more of a major improvement than adding a switch hitting All-Star outfielder who can play all 3 positions and a 29 year old Southpaw who seems to be hitting his prime?
rocky7
So, kind of funny that Yankee fans must endure the commenters criticism regarding “overpaying” for Judge, when those same commenters would be just as critical if the Yankees didn’t sign him…..guess you just can’t win with some of these so called baseball experts…….
Indiansjoe
The whole market is overpriced, I don’t think New York over paid. They paid what they had too. As for all the fans screaming they are buying it…other teams should be happy ( like Miami) the Yankees bailed them out of contracts (like Stanton). Everyone hating, the Yankees aren’t the same as 2 decades ago…if anything the dodgers are the new Yankees really. And I still don’t hate them.
looseouttaturn2
Told ya today!! Merry Xmas!!
scottn59c
Keep the change! (Ya filthy animal)
angt222
I know SF wanted Judge and clearly were serious bidders but longterm it’s probably better for them to spread out that $360M. I fully expect them to sign Correa and a SP.
EastCoastGiant
Expect to be disappointed then.
alwaysgo4two
Giancarlo Stanton 2.0
Mikenmn
Madness, But not my money to spend, and if the Yankees want to spend it, I like Judge and think he’s a terrific player.
metsfan69
Good fit.
JerseyShoreScore
Current Astros > Current Yankees
Viveleempireevil
Right…”current” Yankees. Let’s revisit current in another 30 days or so.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Judge is one of the best players in the game when healthy. The problem is, hes never healthy unless its a contract year. I expect him to play about 90-100 games per season for the first 4 years and then slowly they will make him their primary DH to continue his 100 game pace. I don’t think he will play out the full contract like Pujols or Heyward, but I could be wrong
TheDogDays
Whispering (2021 wasn’t a contract year)
MarlinsFanBase
You’re a Mets fan, so you very likely will be wrong. It’s what your fan base does well.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@MarlinsFanBase The Marlins have been rebuilding since the late 2000s…..
MarlinsFanBase
@LFGMets (Metsin7)
Yet, it’s the Mets that have the longest championship drought for NL East teams.
1986!
The_M4N
People just say the silliest things.
Please tell me, what do you think about Trout?
Moleyrussell’swart
good call Heyman you moron
farscott
Great contract for Aaron Judge, but I am convinced it is not a great contract for the Yankees. Nine years is a long time for both father time and injuries to sap performance. The last four or five years of this deal will likely have the word “albatross” used to describe this signing. Hope I am wrong, but long-term mega deals do not age well.
dmbphils27
Happy for my yankee fan buddies 90 mins North. Glad to see him staying in the AL East. 40Mx9 for an OF Is wild but he deserves it. Phils/Yanks rematch WS 2023. You heard it here first.
Astros2017&22Champs
Phils/ yanks rematch? Were you drunk the entire series?
Steinbrenner2728
He means a rematch of the 2009 World Series. You know, the World Series you Astros fans always seem to bring up when constantly talking about the ‘most recent’ ring the Yankees have won the past 20 years.
Fooque2
FTX money right there……….Bahama mommas for everyone
MarlinsFanBase
Congrats to the Yankees. Thank goodness this deal is done so the other moves can happen throughout MLB.
Now on a funny note, I see Yankees fans having their celebratory posts on here. I think it’s funny to compare the celebratory posts some of them say here to the ‘kick Judge out the door’ stuff they said on this article thread: mlbtraderumors.com/2022/12/yankees-rumors-brandon-…
I know, I know….some of you will bash my Marlins. That’s fine. But at least us Marlins fans don’t bash stars, then reverse our stance when we get what we want.
CaptainJudge99
All Marlin Fans think everything is an overpay. Cause Miami ain’t got no $!
MarlinsFanBase
@CaptainJudge99
Uh, I fail to see where I stated anything about an overpay. Can you please point to where I stated that?
Or is this the best effort you got after I addressed the expected shot one of you would try?
BTW…Nice, shiny new name. I wonder if you were one of the posters on the link I posted here.
DogDays2
The Yankees have more fans so you’re taking the worst and labeling an entire fan base. Its not like the Marlins fans are above the fray.
Yankeesforever
“they overpaid “..bwhahahahaha you third-world country non-Yankee fans. This is but a fraction of the buying power the Yankees have always possessed.
The Yankees could afford to buy entire franchises if they wanted to.
We are not the broken-down Red Sox who have to use promo codes to buy players to come to play for that putrid organization.
You are where you belong Judge, playing for the greatest sports franchise ever.
Best Screenname Ever
Thank you. Though most Yankee fans are a pleasure to have around, we also need the ones who justify the stereotype.
Yankeesforever
and who created that stereotype, broken down third-world MLB fans like yourself
Like stupid people calling smart people nerds, trying to deflect the reality of life and of themselves.
Samuel
Yankeesforever;
All the knowledge Yankee fans have wouldn’t fill a thimble.
But you are honest by saying MLB is all about money to you.
Amazing – haven’t been in a WS for 13 years and sooo arrogant.
LOL
Yankeesforever
Sammy baby…The intellect of Yankee fans is so far over your head, you would need NASA to help you track it.
Now back to waiting for your drive-in movie called “closed for the season” to start
PKCasimir
The Yankees remind me of Norma Desmond waiting for her close-up even though she hasn’t had a hit film in 13 years and her fan club still thinks she’s a star.
TheDogDays
Being nominated for best film every year, albeit not winning it, is star-worthy.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Good. Simple. Got it done. It is what it was always going to be. He’s where he should be. Yankees have their legacy player for a decade.
YanksPhan42
Ridiculous contract. I would have rather seen the Giants have him with this insanity. Will be another black hole deal in the next few years….and I’m a fan of Judge!
Viveleempireevil
Really? “Ridiculous contract”? More like ridiculous comment.
YanksPhan42
Really? Go look at Miguel Cabrera’s contract and then his production the last SIX years. Then take a look at Stanton’s.
He’s going into his age 31 season and has been oft injured already. You think he’s going to repeat that record performance? Because he just goth paid like he’s going to do it yearly.
ccw10
Still less per year than the Mets are paying Verlander!
They will be shoving Judge out onto right field in one of those carts like they removed Mo on when he hurt his knee.
Best Screenname Ever
It would have been a good competitive outcome for the Sox and the other teams in the East had Judge gone to the NL, but this is the right outcome. Judge is the best player in baseball since Mantle, and he’s a Yankee. They stole him with a late first round pick when numerous lesser clubs passed, and he’s a part of Yankee baseball. As much as Sox fans would like to see him in the Bay Area instead, we can really only say ‘All Rise!’
TennVol
Hmm, short term this is good for the Yanks. Long term it will hurt. I honestly think they would have a better team signing Nimmo and Rodon than just Judge. But time will tell.
Old York
Oh, I’m disappointed. I thought he was going to the Tampa Bay Rays. Oh well…
infractor
He seems like a good guy and he played his hand very well since spring training.
As a Jays fan, I don’t look forward to seeing him the next few years but can’t help but see how this has the potential to become a Stanton situation as time goes on. Hopefully not – it’s good to have stars in the league, even if they’re on the Yankees.
higgy5220
Name the man our captain
TellItGoodbye
So I suppose the Giants now sign Correa for 20yrs/$1 trillion?
Moneyballer
Bargain.
Mickey Steverman
Kinda figured this would happen in the end. Oh well. At least he’s not a Dodger. But I wanted to see the Giants make some strides. But really very few star players end up leaving the Yankees. MLB is kind of a joke in that regard. Only certain teams can get certain players because of money.
KeithHernandezMustache
Stanton Part 2
Echopark
Good for Yankees. Good for Giants – for pushing and trying – and I hate the Giants. And now I am going to get to hate them more when they sign Cheats McCheat Correa.
rodcarew
He will never have another year like he had last year. I hope this contract is an albatross over the Yankees for the next decade.
Moneyballer
Wrong.
The_M4N
Psst. With the exception of a five year period when there were a bunch of Hulks playing, no one, in 120+years, has had a year like Judge’s year last year. So that he will not have a year like he had last year is really just stating the obvious…
DogDays2
Who the hell is expecting him to hit 60+ homers every year?
You people are nuts.
Fg-3
So the answer is money?? I heard SF offered the same contract. And all the folks saying Judge was mad and hurt.. bottom line is Judge wants to see 99 in monument park he wants to be the Yankee Captain. He will consistently have a chance to win every single year. If he would have signed with SF all would have said he’s going home.. the Giants stole him , what a great deal for SF. Well he is home. In the Bronx where legends are made. Ruth DiMaggio Gehrig Mantle and Jeter. Welcome to immortality Arron you absolutely deserve this. 62 home runs. MVP
It’s good to be a Yankee fan today.
Moneyballer
Worth every penny!!!!
MPrck
It’s smart staying in N.Y. If they were using a lot of the ‘juiced’ baseball’s, then they should support the price it took to sign him. Baseball intentionally has used three baseballs somehow A current dead ball, a prior live one, and this new “Goldilocks” version.
It was weird in Detroit last season. At the start of the season, balls were not going out, but by late second half the balls were flying out. It seems also from that insider article, not all teams were using the humidors. Baseball uses live balls for special events the article says, but they can track what they are using each game.
Between legal betting, and different baseballs, baseball is really messing with it’s integrity. He stayed in N.Y, and they paid. So it worked out great for Judge who bet big on himself. Baseball needs to be more open on it’s baseballs manufacture.
luckyh
So glad. I’m a Sox fan, and every dollar is one less they spend on pitching. Congrats to Judge. He does seem like a good guy.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
What a show.
Hire the Superfife!
Redwolves3
Zaidi (again) couldn’t seal the deal … gets used by another star player to drive up the price … and then says “thanks but no thanks.” What does Zaidi do next … more excuses?
Haniger is not the answer, not a difference maker, won’t be feared by opposing pitchers, just more of the same Zaidi players.
What options are left for Zaidi to save face with Giants fans … Correa, Bogaerts, Swanson, Nimmo, Rodon and 2nd / 3rd tier players?
Zaidi needs to produce immediately or be fired (including Kapler).
foppert
He feels the disappointment, takes it like a man, and then moves on to the next most positive step for the Giants.
You, on the other hand……
Look on the bright side. Your bitchy little arsenal just got reloaded.
Echopark
Zaidi has a pretty good idea of what to do. His hands have been tied by an aging under-performing roster and a reduced payroll with no real flexibility and the need to rebuild a bad farm system. And in the meantime, the Giants pulled off a 107 win season and an NL West pennant in 2021. So, all in all, your disappointment today aside – I think Zaidi is the least of issues. Kapler is probably not the problem either – though his sanctimonious schtick is grating beyond measure.
foppert
I hear you on Kapler. He doesn’t mind a bit of Kapler. It’s his thing though. Trying to make people better. You have a look around in 2022 and there is probably a fair bit of work to do in that area. So noble, but yes, it can induce a cringe or 2.
MPrck
Will the Mets go get Rodon ? Will they get more bats ? Will Godzilla still attack Tokyo ? With the big fish caught how will rest sort out ? Lot of questions still remaining.
bravesnation nc
Glad it worked out. Judge is a Yankee and should all along remained a Yankee.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I don’t like the Yankees, so this makes me quite happy. Yes, it keeps them relevant for now, but this won’t age well, so a few years from now, they’ll be saddled with his and Cole’s contracts for rapidly declining players. Depending on how fast that happens, they might still have Stanton on the books, too.
luckyh
They’ve shown they will limit their total spending, by Yankee standards. Fans don’t care they’re making money. They want to win. Enjoy!
jakec77
It’s not too often you see a team do exactly the correct thing and also make a huge mistake all at once.
Central Valley
The Giants look like they are going to finish behind the Diamondbacks next year in the NL West.
They desperately need to start producing their own superstars from their farm system.
TellItGoodbye
You got that right.
foppert
The evidence suggests Mr Putilla was hired from the Astros to help improve the farm. There is a just released Giants Talk with Kapler. Talks about the new guy and his approach. Have a listen.
stroh
The Yanks can now “run it back” LOL
baseballguru
40aav for 9yrs wow this will age horribly but potentially fun for 2 or 3 more years
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Well that ties their money up. Figured they would get it done though.
Buzz Killington
I thought he was gone for sure. Actually a good deal if he performs like 2021 for half the contract because he sells tickets and merch like there’s no tomorrow.
LLGiants64
This really surprises me…. Well, no, it doesn’t. Thanks to the Giants, et al, for helping run up the score.
bppack
Cashman’ could have had judge for $100M less. When the yankees “can’t afford” Rodon or other needed pieces, you know who to blame
iBleeedBlue
Giancarlo who?
Astros2017&22Champs
Apparently an Astrophysicist studied 3 different baseballs being used this year. Manfred swore only 2. This Astrophysicist named Meredith Wills discovered this Goldilocks ball was distributed primarily at Yankees Games and the postseason. Judge stole Maris’s record because of a heavier ball. Typical MLB.
foxnews.com/sports/study-shows-mlb-used-three-diff…
Manfred’s playing with the balls
This should be headline news. Manfred gets caught juicing the balls again and no one cares. At least Judge got his HR record and fat contract. Having power hitters pays off when Manfred gives the umps juiced balls.
DogDays2
Yeah, only Judge was swinging at juiced balls.
Amazing how detail oriented and organized MLB has gotten! lol!
DogDays2
Poor Astros, another tainted title!
goastros123
Huh? Only 2017 is tainted, bud.
Yankee Clipper
The third baseball theory was debunked…. As in, no proof. So, at this point, it’s a lie (hyperbole, whatever the term) to diminish what Judge did.
Manfred’s playing with the balls
Debunked, another buzzword used as a crutch by the unintelligent.
Something is either factual or incorrect, if you have info that this story is incorrect you should start sending emails because it’s being reported everywhere. It’s one of the most popular sports stories on most websites.
LordD99
Well played Mr. Judge, well played. Scott Boras could take lessons from you.
foppert
Indeed. Impressive operator.
grandsalametime
Just wait till Judge has a debilitating injury. We’ll see how happy Yankees fans are then.
grandsalametime
We’ll see how happy the Yankees fans are when has a debilitating injury and Yankees fans are paying all that money for a guy to sit on the bench.
Yankee Clipper
So, isn’t that the case with DeGrom, Harper, Scherzer, Trout, Rendon, etc, etc, etc? It’s not really isolated to the Yankees my friend.
Poster formerly known as . . .
So, what you’re saying is, Yankee fans will be unhappy if Judge has a debilitating injury?
DogDays2
grandsalametime;
Now the Yankee haters want him to get in a car accident.
Idiot
Cooperdooper7
9 years…. smh.
I get why the Yankees went there…… but good luck with the last 3 or 4 years of that deal.
waldfee
Great consolation for nine upcoming years of postseason failure.
warnbeeb
Tell me the last 3 years of this contract won’t be Miguel Cabera-ish.
Berkner
Cabrera turned into a pumpkin at 34 so if Judge follows suit then the last 6 years of this contract will be Cabrera-ish, as in negative field value.
Yankeesforever
and to all the posters clamoring they overpaid and should have spread the money around.
I got to laugh, spread what around?
What two or three players could the Yankees have acquired for the same amount of money that could fill the hole Judge would have left?
You weren’t getting Trea Turner, you weren’t getting JV, you won’t get Correa or Rodon.
Christ they just gave Taillon and .193 hitting Cody Bellinger 17 million, so spreading the money around would actually mean the Yankees spending 60 or 90 million dollars to try and fill the hole Judge would have left. Instead, it only cost them 40 million.
His contract is a bargain.
Cooperdooper7
Yanks forever…. I think they should have paid more dollars per for less years….. maybe 45 mill per season for 6 or 7 years…… ALL these mega contracts to take the player to age 40 is just stupid..
Yankeesforever
it is what it is.
It use to be only the top-tier teams shelled out the big bucks so they controlled the years. Now you got the Padres and Mariners and Rangers tossing out years like marriage licenses so you either pony up or lose your franchise player.
Do you want to keep Bogey and Devers or not, a 5-year deal won’t do it these days.
Trea got 11 years, Seager..on and on.
If Soto puts up a pair of great seasons before hitting FA he could hit 50 million a year for 12 years.
Yankeesforever
it is what it is.
It use to be only the top-tier teams shelled out the big bucks so they controlled the years. Now you got the Padres and Mariners and Rangers tossing out years like marriage licenses so you either pony up or lose your franchise player.
Do you want to keep Bogey and Devers or not, a 5-year deal won’t do it these days.
Trea got 11 years, Seager..on and on.
If Soto puts up a pair of great seasons before hitting FA he could hit 50 million a year for 12 years.
Stormintazz
That contract will not age well.
Yankeesforever
what contract ever does, but there is no ceiling at the moment, so who knows what players will be getting in 9 years.
Christ as of right now, Stanton’s contract which only a couple of years ago made him untradable is quickly becoming one that some teams would now be willing to assume.
I was there on the first day of free agency and the world went nuts at the million-dollar contracts they handed out to the likes of Reggie Jackson.
It’s all relative.
JoeBrady
I’d have been fine watching Cashman get hammered for losing Judge, but this is good for baseball. Judge was supposed to remain a Yankee.
iH8PaperStraws
Won’t age well? This contract will look bad starting 2023.
DogDays2
Guest, whatever you’re being paid is too much.
You’re not bright.
The Fiend
Should have just wrote him a blank check before last year. 8 years for 35 per would gotten it done then.
Hope the Yankees FO learns from this.
DogDays2
Yeah, that crystal ball of looking into the future wasn’t working yet.
Judge deserves the credit. He bet on himself and won.
Dock_Elvis
Without SF being his hometown team there’s very little chance Judge’s free agency is more than a yawn. He left 40 million on the table to secure a legacy as a career Yankee. Sadly, many fans never get that opportunity to enjoy with their own players. It’s 6 years and see ya. What a world. How many people could turn down 40M?
pileofsandwich
“Who could turn down 40M?”
A guy who is already getting 300M? There is no difference in life with 300M and 360M.
Dock_Elvis
Pileofsandwich. To the individual there really isn’t. You’re talking ridiculous money. But if someone wanted to impact something else…40M would do it. That’s a heck of an endowment just at interest. Just sitting in a savings it’d be worth around 800k per years.
I’m not suggesting players should or shouldn’t take the money. Just playing with the crazy figures.
Some think the Giants were only a tool in this to work against the Yankees. But I feel they were legit. SF has cash and spends well. Kind of curious where they turn. Right now they have two very solid teams above them in the West. They might just choose to go against the prevailing 250-300 over 10 that’s going on and execute some stealthy deals with the same money.
I keep a mindful eye on the Giants org…they just aren’t dumb as a rule. Sleeping Giants if you like.
Deleted Userr
How much did Arson Judge get tho?
YourDreamGM
Awesome for Judge. These rarely work out well for the team. Good for baseball though. If the Yankees ever start operating like the Braves Astros they will be unstoppable.
kam3hameha
I love how fans of other teams were all over getting Judge and how the Yankees suck and would lose him and he’d come to their team, etc.. Now, it’s “oh Yankees will so regret this”. People are funny lol. Congrats to the Yankees. I don’t think he ever truly wanted to leave New York. I’m surprised, to be honest. I did think he was going to the Giants. That being said, congrats again to the Yanks and if it does end up being a bad contract oh well. It’s going to be fun for them for sure, and the Yankees have enough money it won’t matter if he declines as he ages.
DUDDUS
True, but he won’t enjoy regression as much as Yankee fans won’t. They’ll make sure of that.
poolerh
The reality of the whole situation is this: The Yankees could have paid him a billion dollars for the next 20 years and it still wouldn’t change the fact that they are still essentially the same team that got swept by the Astros in the ALCS last year, minus a couple of pitchers. They won’t have a proven shortstop, Benintendi will likely not be back, catchers are questionable, they traded Montgomery, Taillon is gone, and the list of question marks goes on and on.
Omarj
That article by Insider gave me some concerns. We’ll see what the future brings. Judge is a great guy but living up to that contract. Yikes
skip55
glad he stays a yankee
BlondeBedhead
Glad for Aaron. Glad for Yanks too. It would’ve been hard to replace that kind of offensive production. They could’ve tried by getting a few offensive players but it would’ve been tough even then when the best offensive FA position players were not what Yankees were looking for (i.e. catcher, SS and 2nd tier OFs(imo)). This was a legacy move and as much as I would like to hate the $ amount and years, it’s the best move they could’ve made given the circumstances.
On a lighter note, Aaron quickly sent a $1 Mill checks to Jon Heyman’s Tea Leaves LLC and Arson Judge LLC that he created yesterday. Hey now…. Don’t hate on bad jokes.
Mickey Steverman
Of course the Yankees purchased Judge back. Now we can remove Judge from the “Yankees develop their homegrown talent” discussion and officially move him into the “Yankees buy whoever the heck they want” discussion now that they’ve retained him as a FA when realistically maybe only 2-3 teams even had a fair shot at him. MLB is such a joke and the fact that the salaries have gotten this crazy shows they have long missed the boat with a salary cap, now it’ll never happen because the players have gotten too greedy and of course still it’s only the big-market teams that can afford these absurd contracts.
DogDays2
Which 2-3 teams? Im curious how you came up with that ridiculous number?
Mickey Steverman
I should say there are plenty of teams that will give our absurd contracts. Theoretically a number of teams could offer him stupid money, but then they’re completely strapped after that (Giants and Padres, for example, would be pretty restricted while the Dodgers could sign multiple players to big contracts like Judge’s).
Lanidrac
While the Yankees can afford to absorb the impact better than almost any other team, I certainly wouldn’t want to pay $40M to a 39-year-old player.
Teams were getting so smart about finally not giving out huge long-term contracts past age 36 or 37, but now with these deals for deGrom, Turner, and Judge, teams are backsliding into stupid contract territory again! At least Verlander and Scherzer have already proven that they’re still elite into their late 30s, but those other deals are very likely going to wind up as albatrosses for the last couple or few years of those contracts.
Endar Malkovich
Okay, we can debate back and forth if this was a wise move, etc. Hal is more concerned with selling tickets and backlash. After all the dust settles with this deal the Yankees are exactly the same as they were when the season ended. Let’s not let Hal pull the wool over our eyes and make us think that just because they “resigned” their homegrown player that this team has improved. Don’t let him get away with this move being enough.
mrmackey
I feel like Hal’s balls grew three sizes this day!
Poster formerly known as . . .
Well, I admit I was wrong all along.
I didn’t think the Yankees would add another massive contract on top of the foolish contract they gave Cole and the one they assumed to get Stanton. I also thought Judge would opt to go home to Northern California.
And to be honest, as much as I like Judge, as a Yankee fan I’m disappointed.
My disappointment can be remedied though — if Hal shows he’s willing to keep adding pieces to this still very flawed team and won’t sit on his wallet now that he’s agreed to pay Judge.
Sign Rodon or trade Torres and prospects for a comparable starter; add Nimmo or Benintendi (or trade for Reynolds); eat as much of Donaldson’s and Hicks’s contracts as necessary to cut bait; add a middle infielder like Bogaerts and play Peraza if he seems capable out of spring training and consign IKF to bench duty; and don’t go into the season expecting aging, injured LeMahieu to be rejuvenated and ready on Opening Day.
Do you see the Yankees doing these things to balance the unbalanced roster Cashman has assembled? Because merely keeping Judge and Rizzo is just maintaining the status quo.
Too bad the ninja shot off his mouth again and lost, negotiating in public and costing the Yankees untold millions by pissing-off Judge last spring and publicly offering a contract that every GM in baseball could’ve predicted would be rejected. For this he gets a four-year extension. But the franchise will still be profitable, so it’s all good, right, Hal?
There’s plenty of time for Cashman to right this ship before Opening Day. But just treading water by retaining Judge and Rizzo won’t get it done. Let’s see what the ninja does now.
Brad Scott
Does anyone else think (1) players are paid way too much and (2) it’s stupid that so many of the biggest sports stories (at least in baseball) are about how much players make? Plus, the fans have to pay for all of that with higher ticket prices, higher concession prices, etc. And typically the MLB teams that win the WS are not those that “buy” the most-expensive players anyway. It all seems pretty messed up.
Poster formerly known as . . .
There are a lot of salaries in this country that are obscene, Brad. These MLB salaries are among them, but they reflect the amount of money the owners are making in their league. If fans don’t want to keep paying what the owners demand of them, they’re free to stop subsidizing these escalating salaries and prices. So far, fans have shown no disposition to boycott the sport and I don’t expect them to, do you?
Brad Scott
IDK. Maybe the fans could form their own union & vote to boycott the games if ticket prices & player salaries don’t come way down.
Poster formerly known as . . .
I guess that could work in some cities, but in New York the teams sell lots of season tickets and luxury suite tickets to corporations that entertain clients and hold employee outings at the ballpark. They’re not necessarily even fans; but it’s a good place to schmooze in a casual setting, grease their clients, and have some fun.
This Forbes article is old, but it’s at least partially informative:
forbes.com/2009/11/06/corporate-baseball-nba-busin…
DogDays2
Why should I not enjoy going to games, or even worse not take my little kids because you aren’t happy with their salaries?
DogDays2
Brad;
1) yes, the players make too much but its pure economics. If they don’t, the owners will just keep more.
2) and this is important. Most big contracts aren’t handed out with just wins/losses in mind. Its a business.
3) Not being a jerk, but are you jealous, or on some World Economic Board where you should put a ceiling on someones salary?
kcmark
Ticket prices and concessions pay a minuscule amount. It’s television and ad revenue. The biggest boost coming from legalized sports gambling.
Brad Scott
@kcmark: They’re not so miniscule to the fans who have to pay them.
Dr2022
Steinbrenner is already printing out millions of Aaron Judge jerseys and paraphernalia, to start covering the cost of this contract. As far as so-called ninja Cashman lol, what a oxymoron, I’m sure he’s already dumpster diving and searching under every rock he could find to come up with ways to fill out the rest of the roster and not go over their self impose salary cap. We still won’t win another title that way.
Poster formerly known as . . .
That won’t help much, Doc. MLB pools all sales of licensed team merchandise and shares the money equally among all 30 teams, if I’m not mistaken.
Dr2022
Then he’ll have to crank out more paraphernalia then haha
Poster formerly known as . . .
The other teams will be grateful.
Yanks2
Not sure why they missed out on Taillon. Seemed like an obvious signing. Cashman will likely get an Andrew Heaney type
GeoEng88
Judge will be back to the injured list next year to count his money
Poster formerly known as . . .
It might seem counterintuitive to say that a guy who just got set for life (or several lifetimes for most people) with an absurd $360 million contract made a mistake, but I honestly think that Judge did.
If you could get equal or more money playing for fans who’d cheer you, as opposed to playing for fans who’d jeer you after you carried the team all year, where would you sign up to play?
If I had an equal offer from the Giants and $40 million more from the Padres, my only decision would be which California team I preferred.
DogDays2
Im biased but Id stick with the Yankees.
In reality, the fans have treated him well since he arrived and some unfortunately vented out of frustration during the postseason. Judge has been around, I think he understands the WS drought and chose to look past it.
Plus having a lasting legacy with the Yankees is (despite the haters) a pretty nice thing to have.
Edp007
Ya me too , but you and I are not Aaron. He wanted to stay a Yankee.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Yup. Can’t say I mind being able to watch him play. Even when he strikes out, his at-bats are must-see events.
jogo
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kenphelpsformvp
any chance the yanks can get 3 years of mvp type production before he turns into joncarlo.
i’m just asking for 3. . but five years would be enough for me to write off the remaining $175mil worth of replacement level stats you’re likely going to get
Berkner
The Yanks didn’t even get 3 years of MVP type production out of Giancarlo before he turned into joncarlo and they acquired him when he was in his late 20s.
Unclenolanrules
Betting five bucks Aaron Judge’s knees only signed a four year deal.
DogDays2
Cool, then you can talk about him some more!
Poster formerly known as . . .
I guess you’re not often seen at the heavy hitters’ table in the casino.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Manfred and MLB. What can you say anymore?
Now there’s a report that Meredith Wills, an astrophysicist, did an analysis of 2022 baseballs for SABR and found the league used three different kinds of baseballs this year, and one in particular, the “Goldilocks” ball, “would likely travel farther than a dead ball hit with equal force.” The dead ball is the one Manfred claimed was the only one used in 2022.
Ms. Wills found otherwise. And what’s especially irksome to me is this:
“The only Goldilocks balls we obtained from the regular season that did not have commemorative stamps were from Yankees games.”
They found 11 Goldilocks balls used in Yankee games.
The problem here is obvious: Was the league feeding balls to Judge that would fly farther so they could reprise the public interest that benefited their bottom line when McGwire and Sosa were engaged in “the home run race that saved baseball,” and when Bonds was beating Hank Aaron’s record?
If so, there are multiple implications. For one, the Yankees just may have issued the largest free agent contract in history to a player who was aided (and very possibly without his knowledge) by baseballs that Manfred claimed weren’t in use. On the other hand, were the Yankees aware of this all along? After all, Judge’s season put money in their accounts, and MLB, after all, IS the owners. Manfred is just their hireling and mouthpiece.
Then there’s the issue of the MVP award.
This whole business stinks.
insider.com/mlb-used-two-balls-again-this-year-and…
In the sample we accumulated, nearly all of our specialty-marked balls were Goldilocks, while the standard, MLB-stamped balls were almost always the dead ball.
There were, however, 20 exceptions — Goldilocks balls that bore no specialty markings on their covers. We found:
Nine in the postseason across four playoff rounds;
11 obtained from Yankees games.
Poster formerly known as . . .
This segment of my previous post was from the report and should’ve been in quotation marks:
“In the sample we accumulated, nearly all of our specialty-marked balls were Goldilocks, while the standard, MLB-stamped balls were almost always the dead ball.
“There were, however, 20 exceptions — Goldilocks balls that bore no specialty markings on their covers. We found:
– Nine in the postseason across four playoff rounds;
– 11 obtained from Yankees games.”
goastros123
Exactly: Manfred answers to those who own the teams. I think some one is lying about either not knowing or not being involved. Plus, what if other team owners were aware and didn’t object?
OilCanLloyd
If Vlad jr. signed a 15 year deal this year, what would it look like? 500M plus?
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Yeah. A 15 year deal for Vlad Jr. Would probably be around $525M. Though I could see it get to $600M.
Mad Hatter
Easy for a trillionaire team operator to say!
Dr2022
And I would not be surprised if his career followed the course of prince fielder. With his body type, he might fizzle out due to injury sooner rather than later. It would be a big gamble giving him a long-term contract.
Yanks2
Soto would get more than Guerrero
Dr2022
No doubt.
Wilmer the Thrillmer
It’s not my money so I would have certainly enjoyed Judge in SF. But honestly the Yankees are basically paying the guy 60 mil per year for 6 years because if they get 6 solid seasons from Judge out of the 9 they’ll be happy campers.
I like the Haniger signing. The dude’s a plus outfielder and hit 39 home runs in 2021. Now they need one more outfielder and if they can’t sign Nimmo or Conforto then they can trade for someone.
Pivot to Correa and if that doesn’t happen then trade for someone.
I would like the Giants to sign Ross Stripling and Taylor Rogers.
We basically had no Hot Stove in 2020 and 2021 so this one’s been a very welcome departure.
theo13919
As the Astros get Abreu, they walk away from the Winter meetings improved. They lost Verlander, but their pitching is very strong. The Yankees signed a first baseman that hit 220 and was out on the DL quite a bit and Judge who is a superstar, but are they leaving the meeting improved. The obvious answer is no. There is still time for improvements, but they are burdened with stupid contract signing/trades in Donaldson and Hicks, not that other GM’s have learned from that though.
Poster formerly known as . . .
That “Arson Judge” gaffe by Jon Heyman might live in infamy. If Judge’s contract turns disastrous, fans might start calling him Arson Judge for burning the team’s money.
Berkner
You mean when the Judge contract turns disastrous.
flipsithflop
I like judge but the yankees should have passed on that, they need so much more depth in pitching and infield and now they are going to be saddled and handcuffed.
PinstripedPride
The Donaldson contract is coming off the books either this winter with a trade or next winter with free agency.
Hicks could be traded this winter or anytime, with some negotiating.
Most of the rest of the players are on fairly affordable salaries by any measure.
The Yankees are not going to be totally hamstrung at all. They can go over the threshold to attain the players they want now, and then drop down this coming winter.
Jack5102
At the end of the day paying Judge did not make the Yankees better. Maintained the status quo.. Is it to be used on future free agents??? The Yankee lineup is the same today as yesterday!!!
Brendan Guttmann
Forget the money, it’s baseball politics. He’s great in clubhouse and wants to be a Yankee. Now let’s sign Benintendi and get a top pitcher, and try to deal with Donaldson, Hicks problem.
PutMeinCoach88
I have concerns on how long his legs will hold up. Let’s pray he still hits and doesn’t miss the ball (K) too many times in the later part of this deal. What actually bothers me is, when players just try to max out contracts instead of thinking about the well being of their team. Surely winning should be a priority as well. How can you win when this contract makes it harder for most teams to sign more players of his caliber to win lol smh.
luclusciano
Just curious – what are the concerns with his legs? Does he have previous issues?
PutMeinCoach88
Well he’s 6 foot 9 or something crazy lol any athletes this big the legs don’t last forever. Ask Pujols who had some horrific seasons before his last send off year. It’s a gamble in the end, but overall it should pay off as long as they get more players to improve.
jruss520
Yankees need to sign Addison Russell for shortstop, he deserves a spot in the Major League
frontdeskmike
For those wondering, Judge will make more than $1.26 per second for the next nine years.
whyhayzee
A rhetorical question: If Boras was Judge’s agent, would he have signed with the Padres?
YankeesBleacherCreature
From what I gather, Judge wasn’t close to signing with another team although he had very competitive offers on the table. He was always going to give the Yankees their one final shot. It would be Judge’s choice as the Yankees were going to spend the allocated funds regardless on a player.
BenBenBen
“The previously mentioned Rodon, too, likely needed to wait on Judge, given the Yankees’ interest.”
That’s not how you use “too” at all. It should go after Judge, without any comma before it.
Poster formerly known as . . .
How about those Phillies?
Poster formerly known as . . .
ESPN’s David Schoenfield doesn’t always offer the sharpest commentary, but he’s on it in these observations:
‘As a quick example of how the Yankees used to completely eclipse the rest of the league in player salaries, we can compare their payroll with the average of the other nine teams in the top 10 in payroll. That ratio peaked in 2005 when the Yankees had a payroll of $208.3 million, more than twice the $95.7 million average of the other teams in the top 10. From 2000 to 2012, the Yankees’ payroll averaged 64% higher than the rest of the top 10. Since 2013, that average has been just 16% — and the team’s payroll was less than the average in 2018 and 2021.
‘That’s fine if the farm system is pumping out inexpensive talent, but that hasn’t been the case. Of the 18 Yankees to produce at least 1.0 WAR in 2022, the only homegrown players were Judge (debuted in 2016), Luis Severino (debuted in 2015) and rookie reliever Ron Marinaccio. Two others, Gleyber Torres and Michael King, were acquired as minor leaguers and have spent their entire major league careers in pinstripes. But it has been a long time since Judge and Severino broke out in 2017 and Torres in 2018.’
If Hal has spent a fortune on this team’s rosters without a World Series to show for it in 13 years, he has one man to blame for that: Brian Cashman. So why give Cashman a 4-year contract extension?
YankeesBleacherCreature
You said it yourself, Fink. Just enough to get into the playoffs while guaranteeing Hal’s pockets get lined.
Dr2022
That us it. Bleacher. Thats all that matters.
Hopefully this year will be different.
brucenewton
2025, 26 and 27 going to be rough in Yankee land with those 3.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
That took a while- were they hammering out the perks in relation to the salary, allocating the funds, doing a wide variety of physical tests and health tests to make sure he’s solid for the deal physically? Weird how long that took.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Judge went directly with his wife to Hawaii from the Winter Meetings. He needed to come back for his physical before today’s official announcement.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Weird that they took all that time off before actually signing? Why not take the extra 2-3 days to do this and then take the vacation to Hawaii?
TellItGoodbye
OP: “…since Bonds dominated during the steroid era” Just wondering why the need to add that last part? Factually true, sure, at least during the 2nd half of his should-be-Hall Of Fame career, but if you’re going to add that for Bonds, shouldn’t that be added to every post that references any player who ever played in MLB from the late 80s to the early 00s? Why is he the only one who earns that tag line?? Sure seems there’s an unending attempt to diminish Bonds in order to prop up Judge. Bonds was so far and away a better player than Judge from day one. And he played half his games at Candlestick and then the current park, as opposed to Judge at HR happy Yankee Stadium (with possibly with juiced balls).
Dr2022
Well said trillionaire.It seem to be obvious though, and shouldn’t have to be explained to others. But evidently it does.
Hammerin' Hank
Bonds was a superstar before he ever took anything. He just transformed into more of a home run hitter after he started juicing. Just as Clemens was an outstanding pitcher before he ever took any steroids.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Because it was the steroid era. Because Bonds’ body and playing style very obviously changed in 2001, along with his home run totals, because the post strike era was defined by steroid enhanced home run totals and even if a lot of guys still take HGH and do other less obvious steroids, power numbers have reset to more typical levels. But Judge has been an obvious outlier his entire career. His size, his skill sets etc make him an excellent overall hitter with unusually consistent power.
Whereas Bonds hit a ton of ridiculously overpowered home runs, Judge has proven to be more of a pure hitter whose hitting ability along with his natural size, produced more home runs.
Judge’s record is currently assumed to be clean, so instead of guys like McGwire etc who all seemed to peak in a very particular era of baseball where most players’ power numbers were on video game mode, Judge’s numbers currently seem authentically au natural and so the comparison and reference is appropriate.
Dr2022
A guys head and neck doesn’t triple in size in the course of a year from natural causes.
I guess there is still apologist out there, who deny this.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Neither did Bonds’ head and neck triple in size.
It’s incredible to me how urban legends get set in stone, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
Bonds as a Pirate:
di2ponv0v5otw.cloudfront.net/posts/2021/01/28/6013…
Bonds after he hit #713, May 7, 2006:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Barry_…
Some people’s capacity to see what they want to see despite what’s right in front of their eyes is . . . I dunno, choose your own adjective.
Dr2022
Well pink you’re splitting hairs. If he looks the same to you in those photos well good for you. You’re right, people see what they want to see. You’re not immune from that either.
And I guess you think that a guy who never hit more than 40 home runs in a season, suddenly during the steroid era hit 73, is not suspicious. And that’s salsa, hit more than 60 home runs door of the steroid ever several times, was doing it naturally too I guess in your opinion.
Poster formerly known as . . .
I didn’t say he didn’t juice. But that business about his head and neck being three times bigger is nonsense. Some clown made that statement and other clowns picked it up and spread it around. The photos don’t lie.
Hammerin' Hank
I’m no apologist for Bonds. I just don’t care if he was using them, as he obviously was. Almost everyone was using during that era. And if guys like Mays and Mantle were playing in a steroid era, they most likely would have been using them too, don’t you think? It’s also crazy how guys like Pettite and Ortiz get a pass, and no one cares what they did, just because of their personalities or whatever.
Yanks2
Ortiz didn’t juice
Yankee Clipper
I wonder how he is signed officially because, unless I’m mistaken, I didn’t think they could make FA signings official until they cleared roster space for them. Right now the Yankees are sitting at 43 (44 w/ Judge) on the 40-man.
Yanks2
Next article, Yankees DFA Hicks, Donaldson, and IKF
Fg-3
Just call him Captain Judge please. Hate all you want. Cry about the $$ we have THE FACE of MLB and a Yankee Captain for the rest of his glorious career. In my 40 years of following the Yankees no one not Jeter not Reggie not Mattingly had a section dedicated to him. Judge is a star that goes beyond baseball. And he’s our Yankee
thunderlips
****UPDATE****
This just in: Aaron Judge signs 25 year, 1 billion dollar contract with New York Mets.
JerryCavender
Judge being named “Captain” is hilarious. For $360 million, you’d think he’d be named part owner!!