December 20: The Twins have officially announced Gallo’s signing.
December 16: The Twins are reportedly in agreement with outfielder Joey Gallo on a one-year deal that will pay him $11MM. The two-time All-Star is represented by the Boras Corporation.
Gallo, 29, has occasionally been one of the most fearsome sluggers in the league but is coming off a rough stretch. With the Rangers from 2017 to 2019, he was the poster boy for the three true outcomes: home run, strikeout and walk. In that three-year stretch, he struck out in 36.8% of his plate appearances while the league averages in that time hovered around 22%. His 14.3% walk rate was well beyond the 8.5% league average in that time. He also launched 103 home runs over that stretch, leading to a batting line of .217/.336/.533. Despite the huge punch-out totals, that production was 20% above league average, as evidenced by his 120 wRC+.
The seasons since haven’t been quite as smooth, however. In the shortened 2020 season, Gallo hit .181/.301/.378 for a wRC+ of 86. He seemed to bounce back in the first half of 2021, as he was sitting on a line of .223/.379/.490 for a wRC+ of 138 when the Rangers traded him to the Yankees. Unfortunately, he swooned in the Bronx, hitting .160/.303/.404 after the deal, 95 wRC+. He couldn’t quite correct course this year, as his first 82 games led to a .159/.282/.339 line and 82 wRC+ before the Yanks flipped him to the Dodgers at the deadline. The move to Hollywood didn’t change much, as he hit .162/.277/.393 as a Dodger for a wRC+ of 91.
Though those sub-Mendoza batting averages are certainly unpleasant to the eye, there’s plenty of reason to think he could get the train back on the tracks. For one thing, he’s still young, having just turned 29 last month. He also still knocks the snot out of the ball, as his hard hit percentage was in the 94th percentile in 2022, his barrel rate in the 98th and his max exit velocity 89th. The upcoming rules banning defensive shifts are likely to help him out as well, since he bats from the left side. According to Statcast, Gallo is shifted in 90% of his plate appearances, one of the 20 highest such rates in the league.
Even if he can’t bounce back at the plate, he can still be a valuable player due to his strong defense. He’s been given a positive grade in the outfield by Defensive Runs Saved in each season of his career, while Ultimate Zone Rating and Outs Above Average only gave him a negative number in 2022. For his outfield work as a whole, he has 43 DRS, 19 UZR and 7 OAA. Even though his bat was subpar all year in 2022, he was still worth 0.6 wins above replacement, in the eyes of FanGraphs. In 2021, when he was good at the plate with Texas but bad with the Yanks, he was worth 4.2 fWAR.
For the Twins, Gallo should slot into one of the outfield corners, with Byron Buxton in center. This only adds to a cluttered outfield mix, as the club has many options on its roster. It was reported last week that the club is getting trade interest in Max Kepler, as they also have Trevor Larnach, Alex Kirilloff, Kyle Garlick, Gilberto Celestino, Royce Lewis, Nick Gordon, Matt Wallner and Mark Contreras in their outfield mix. Some of those players can also play the infield, but it’s quite the crowded dance floor. With Gallo now added into the mix, it would seem to make a trade of Kepler or someone else more likely.
The Twins should still have payroll space available, as most of their offseason has been geared around a pursuit of Carlos Correa. The club reportedly made him an offer of $285MM over 10 years, or $28.5MM per season, though he instead signed with the Giants for $350MM over 13 years. The Twins have now given $11MM to Gallo instead, taking a chance that he can rediscover some of his previous form in a new environment. This move brings the club’s payroll up to $118MM, per Roster Resource. The club’s franchise record for an Opening Day payroll was the $134MM figure they ran out in 2022, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts. Assuming they’re willing to spend at similar levels this year, they still have about $16MM to work with, though Kepler will have an $8.5MM salary in 2023 as well as a $1MM buyout on a $10MM club option. Moving him could create some extra payroll space unless they also take on some salary in the trade.
Despite unexpectedly landing a star like Correa for 2022, the Twins disappointed by finishing 78-84, 14 games back of the Guardians in the American League Central. They will now have to try to figure out how to be better without Correa in 2023. Better health would be one way, as they suffered an incredible number of injuries in 2022. Another path might be to reallocate his $35.1MM salary into multiple players and hope for surplus value, with Gallo now one of them.
Jon Heyman of the New York Post first reported that Gallo and the Twins agreed at $11MM. Jeff Passan of ESPN first reported the one-year agreement.
Image courtesy of USA Today Sports.
jeff51488
Wow
Goku the All Knowing
how is he worth 11 mil?
I know that’s not a ton, but paying him anything past 6 is remarkable.
case
I suspect because teams can’t heavily shift on him anymore and the twins see someone that can either get them to the playoffs or be a surprise trade chip at the deadline.
mrmackey
You still have to hit the baseball. Gallo was soooo awful in 2022. He may be done and he gets 11 mill?
lucas0622
Even when Gallo was elite in 2019 he still had the strikeout issue.
stymeedone
That strikeout is not getting thru, with or without the shift.
Very Barry
Shift???? Dude either hits it out of the park, or strikes out. Last few seasons it has been mostly striking out.
Gator50
I don’t think the lack of shifting will help a guy who strikes out 37% of the time. Somehow he also walks 15% of the time, which leaves him only putting the ball in play in 48% of the time. Then 34% of his hits were HRs. The shift wasn’t hurting him.
Deadguy
I once saw a guy strikeout through the shift, catcher missed strike 3 in thr dirt and the ball went to the backstop
Deadguy
I wish i could be done and get 11 mil mmmmmkay
How is it even possible to bat .196 and even get 5 million?
CursedRangers
Wow – I would have never guessed he would have got paid this much.
elmedius
Bellinger got what? Like $17?
OIC2021
The Guardians finished 30th in pursuit of Gallo. Their team prefers guys who put a ball in play
flamingbagofpoop
He was a 4 win player in 2021, maybe teams think 2022 was more of a fluke than his new norm.
Led Hoyer
He can hit 40 homeruns and play plus defense
stymeedone
They just signed a LH version of Sano, who they cut. Please explain this, as Sano was cheaper.
Chicken In Philly?
Sano couldn’t play defense or hit 40 home runs.
Gator50
Gallo hasn’t hit 40 HRs in 5 years.
gmenfan
Didn’t you know that the going rate is $55M/WAR ?
AL34
Guy should be at league minimum
StreakingBlue
This is Scott Boras and his magic dust
Deadguy
Scott Boras at his finest
CaptainJudge99
Max Kepler is likely a goner now, Twinkies.
Kayrall
I would rather have Kepler…
#1WhiteSoxFan
Thank goodness.
Didn’t want his annual 200+ K’s playing for the Sox.
CaptainJudge99
And all along I thought he’d sign with Yankees.
rally squirrel
Why?
puhl
That’s what I want to know. What an atrocious signing. He strikes out 44% of the time and has a career batting average of .199. You gave him $11M?!?! You would have been better off throwing $11M at someone like Yuli Gurriel who makes contact. This move alone says the Twins front office is lost.
kc38
Not justifying the move but that’s a horrible comparison. Can yuli play gold glove caliber defense? No.
positively_broad_st
Yuli won a gold glove in 2021…
puhl
Ah, Yuli has a gold glove.
puhl
The comparison was with what each brings to the plate, but for the record. Yuli Gurriel has a gold glove and is an exceptional defender.
ArkAngels
Yes. Yuli won a gold glove in 2021.
ForeverGiantsFan
I like the signing. He is an excellent defender and he walks above league average. He has huge upside. I had hoped he would have signed with the Giants.
RobM
Consider yourself lucky he did not sign with the Giants. Granted, my view of him is as a Yankee fan who once believed in him but then had to watch him daily for over a year. I took to having a martini every time he K’d. That was a bad decision, but my counselors have told me I’ve made good progress and I should be able to exit Trembling Hills rehab by March.
Saskatchewan Jaysfan
I wonder if it’s a New York/Los Angeles thing where some players wilt under the pressure..or if it’s a Chris Davis thing where he was really good for a few years..then all of a sudden he loses his bat speed. We will findout if Gallo had stage fright, or if he is in deep decline
Gator50
Um, yes. Yes he can.
StreakingBlue
Only thing is that he appears to not be very smart, and bad baseball instincts. Saw it with the Dodgers. Blame this on Rangers not teaching him fundamentals.
LivingRoomGM
this entire offseason every contracts been bloated with either AAV, years or both
SheaGoodbye
At some point it’s no longer bloat. It’s the new normal.
Longtimecoming
I know it’s been 21 years but T Gwynn got 2 mil for the 2001 season and he hit .324/.384 per baseball-reference. Astounding how batting average and ability to hit the ball somewhere at least 60% of the time is no longer a concern.
flamingbagofpoop
He has a career k% of 37.3, (still awful), where are you getting 44?
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Fearsome, that’s why. Except Mendoza is giving him shade.
Also means Kepler is going, going, touch ’em all Max.
allen592
World Series is locked up for the Twins!
Dorothy_Mantooth
It’s amazing he was able to lock in an $11M guaranteed salary after his lack of performance in 2021 & 2022. This is why Scott Boras is the absolute best in the industry.
Joe says...
Good luck with that.
Catuli Carl
Pretty sure Yankees fans scarred him for life.
Joe says...
He lost the Yankees fans when he said he was who he was and wasn’t going to change.
Dr2022
Yup.especially when it was quite apparent that whatever he was doing was not working.
Dr2022
Good luck. You can have him!
CaptainJudge99
Yes, we’ll fly Gallo out to Minnesota for nothing!!!
Dr2022
No. He is not an improvement.
Dr2022
Damn right!
SheaGoodbye
To be fair I don’t think there’s anything wrong with what he said. It’s not like he wasn’t trying to get himself out of the slump any way he could. I took it more as he wasn’t going to reinvent himself as a hitter, which is fair. He’s a three true outcomes guy, for better or worse.
Of course, he should’ve known better than to say something as dumb—and which could be seen as flippant—as he did. What did he think the response was going to be? Completely self-inflicted.
jolink65
I really hated to see him go through that because by all accounts he’s a nice guy and his teammates loved him, but how do you struggle that badly at the plate yet still refuse to change your approach? I thought Sanchez was the worst hitter I had ever seen, but Gallo easily takes that title now.
User 3595123227
Lol there’s another “he’s a nice guy” comment lol.
PoisonedPens
Well, Gallo will definitely make Twins fans forget about Carlos Correa, just not in a good way.
The most remarkable thing about his season was he got the NY Post to write a fluff piece after he had been with the LAD for a week or two saying how relaxed he was living in a big apartment by the beach in LA and that’s why he was hitting better….then promptly cratered yet again. He’s had a OPS+ under 80 three times in five season over three teams. That’s who he is. Terrible signing, will be DFA’d by June.
jolink65
@ retired: I’m just saying he wasn’t a jerk to the fans or the media or anything, so he didn’t deserve the visceral hatred directed at him. I hated the trade at the time it was made, but I don’t like seeing fans crushing the players on the team like that.
Hurricane Sandy
I’m not a Yankees fan, but in their defense, he was terrible long before he got to the Yankees. He’s literally like my least favorite player in the entire sport.
Saint Nick
Only 1/11. Not too shabby.
joepanikatthedisco
Fitting as he will average 1 hit per 11 at-bats
metalhead
Swing and miss? Yeah that’s the answer.
Mattimeo09
Plus Target Field has a large outfield.
Good for doubles? Absolutely.
Good for long pop-ups? Absolutely not.
rubenrosario
Overpaid smh
davidk1979
Goodbye Kepler I guess
CaptainJudge99
@davidk1979- I was thinking the same exact thing. Kepler to the Yankees for Hicks (half paid contract) and a prospect?
Rsox
I think Falvey would take a bag of sunflower seed shells in return before he took Hicks even if the Yankees paydown salary (they won’t)
A Gallo signing is not necessarily a precursor to a Kepler trade. The Twins can use Gallo in LF/DH and probably CF when Buxton’s not out there
JPR
Kepler for Donaldson and IKF?
CaptainJudge99
Kepler for German/Schmidt and Luetge.
Doug
I heard the German & Luetge for Kepler rumor, and hope the Yanks do it.
Dreg
I dont think we’ll be trading him for another outfeilder after just signing one/DH.
I see the Twins trading for pitching…..as they should.
Steve(shs22)
IFK. Plus Wells for Kepler?
CaptainJudge99
@Steve(sh22) No way, nice try but If Austin Wells is being traded he will likely be in a Bryan Reynolds trade package or bust. Max Kepler playing left field remains to be seen. We’ll see.
Dr2022
I dont think Kepler is an improvement, check out baseball reference.
CaptainJudge99
@Dr2022- yeah maybe, but if we can give up Donaldson or Hicks as a piece to get Kepler would you do it? I definitely would do it my friend. I think Kepler is a lot better then his play last season. We’ll see. I could be wrong.
twins33
I don’t see how the Twins take either back. They got rid of Donaldson because they didn’t want him anymore and if they’re trading Kepler, they’re not going to want another OF in exchange.
OF is where they are deepest (Gallo, Buxton, Kirilloff, Larnach, Garlick, Gordon, Celestino, Wallner, Martin, Contreras). Could be missing someone, but I think that’s everyone minus Kepler.
Kirilloff is better as a 1B vs OF in my opinion and Gordon is an infielder who’s played more OF than anything else in the majors so maybe two less people on that list but still deep.
Yankee Clipper
This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw this signing. It makes too much sense, especially knowing Reynolds’ cost, knowing the Twins want to gather more prospects & young talent, & knowing Cashman’s typical MO.
Gallo can play any one of the three OF positions. I know the Twins need MIF, so I’m thinking perhaps IKF + prospect(s)? If they agree to Donaldson, Yanks would need to pay that way down, in addition to IKF + prospect, imho.
Hopefully we will hear something soon though.
Rsox
They already got IKF with more power with Kyle Farmer. If the Twins add another Infielder it will be Dansby Swanson. More likely they could let Royce Lewis play SS and see what he can do or move Polanco back to SS and let Nick Gordon play 2B
Ancient Pistol
$11 million for a guy who strikes out 250 times and hits .179? Does this mean you no longer care if you win?
puhl
Giving him $11M has pissed me off and I’m not a Twins fan!
luclusciano
He is amazing at defense and allegedly the shift will help?? 11m seems steep
Dbacks44
Nice 140 avg with 25 hrs.Chris Davis comes to mind. Chris Carter comes to mind.
Larry Brown's crank
chris Carter? from dramarama? cool!
vtadave
no, the guy who created The X-Files
Larry Brown's crank
Oh!….I thought you said Joey Callo! yea….Joey callo…with a C!
jdgoat
Gallo is a fine bounce back candidate but how the hell does he get 11 million based on the last 1.5 years he’s coming off? I generally don’t have any problems with any one year deals but this one seems like it’s at least 4-5 million too much.
Catuli Carl
One word: Boras.
crise
He should definitely have taken a bigger pay cut to be seeing any regular playing time. Not certain what the Flavine saw, but I’m seeing a guy who hasn’t been on the sunny side of the Mendoza line for quite a while. Did teams just start throwing him strikes? Because while his average still sucks his walks have dried up and his power evaporated with everyone else’s when the balls got light. Not certain what they hope to get for $11m, but I can’t see it from where I’m sitting. Does he have a great knuckleball or something? Emergency catcher? Can he man the omelette bar on Sundays?
Catuli Carl
lol it’s the knuckleball I think
IndianRye
Off topic but I just realized I’ve read your name wrong from the beginning. I thought it was curteli Kurt lol
Catuli Carl
Lol no, Catuli as in Eamus Catuli.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamus_Catuli
hiflew
I think a lot of it has to do with cautious optimism that the end of the shift will increase offense and make guys like Gallo more valuable. Instead of him getting solo homers with a bunch of Ks, he will likely get multi run homers with a bunch of Ks now.
stymeedone
Again, regardless of shift or no shift, that strikeout is not getting thru the infield!
Arnold Ziffel
Bounce back to what? The Mendoza line. A calmer environment there could help, and not many expectations also, probably not the worst signing, but not a great one.
jdgoat
If he bounces back to a .900 ops he’s a steal at 11 million. How likely is that to happen though is another question.
BigFred
He didn’t bounce back on the Dodgers.
Simm
I’m actually surprised he got 11m even in this market.
I guess they are hoping he never swings because if he does he is going to strike out.
GhostOfKevinElster
The price for 1 war is like 10 million. This is a steal.
Simm
He didn’t even get 1 warrant year. So based off your math it isnt.
vtadave
Gallo is a…steal? Ok
Pickle_Britches
Should of been like 4-5 mill with incentives like hitting above.200 he gets another 2 mill and more than 25 hr another couple mill. But if he hits below.200 he needs to payback 2 mill lol
BEATNGU
Talk about inflation… This takes the cake…
Yanksfan75
Inflation????? Isn’t it just transitory inflation? Lol
vtadave
Performance based incentives like that are not allowed.
metsie1
Swing and a miss. A lot of that headed to the Twin Cities. Yuck.
miggywrld
He will probably torch the tigers this year.
baseballboi
Miguel Sano 2.0
mlb1225
At least Gallo gives you good defense in the outfield. Sano is a mediocer defender at first base.
Rangers29
Heyyy, I haven’t seen you here in a minute, you still writing for that Pirates website?
mlb1225
Yeah, I am. Something weird happened to MLB Trade Rumors for me. I couldn’t access it on my home wifi, not through the app, or the website, not on my laptop or phone (neither mine, or my parents’ laptop or phone could access it through our wifi either), and even tried my PlayStation internet browser but to no avail. The only time it worked was when I was connected to other wifi sources (like when I was at a restraunt or on my college campus). This lasted from like the start of the playoffs up until like last week and it would usually lead me to like a “This website is not avaiable” page. I have no idea what caused it, but it was something on our internet provider’s end because the website and app worked perfectly fine when I wasn’t connected to our wifi.
CaptainJudge99
@mlb1225- missed you man. Glad to hear your alright. Please give me a reasonable trade offer for Bryan Reynolds from the Yankees. I do realize he is the Pirates best player. Can he leadoff? Or is better in the line up in a different spot? And do the Pirates have any interest in Gleyber Torres? Please let me know and thanks.
mlb1225
There’s never gonna be a reasonable trade offer for Reynolds, to put it simply lol. They want a Soto-like return and it’s been that way for nearly 2 years now with no change in sight. Idk if the Pirates would even have interest in Torres outside of a throw in to a mich larger package because he has 1 less year of control than Reynolds. Any Reynolds trade w/the Yanks would have to include Volpe as the headliner. Jason Dominguez as well as Wells would like be asked about.
orange2001
Imagine what Rob Deer would get if he were playing in today’s market?
hiflew
Well he is 62, so probably only $3 million or so with a player option.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Or Gorman Thomas.
Datashark
Dave Kingman is searching for fountain of youth
Yanks2
Who is Rob Deer
vtadave
Google helps.
hiflew
He is the guy that said,”It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” Wait, maybe that was Abe Lincoln. Still kind of fits though.
YankeesBleacherCreature
My salesman gramps used to say something similar when I was a kid like assume everyone is smart until they open their mouths to prove you wrong.
mlb1225
To be fair, while the three-true-outcomes kind of hitters, he’s still an extreme outlier. Since 1960, he has the highest strikeout rate among players with 1500 PA. He also has the the highest ISO, and the only sub-mendoza hitter of any batter with a K% of at least 30%. There’s really no other player like Joey Gallo in baseball history.
.
I would like to see how Adam Dunn’s #’s match up with those!
mlb1225
Gallo makes Dunn look like Tony Gwynn. Dunn has a career .237 avg, only struck out 28.6% of the time compared to Gallo’s career .199 average and 37.4% K-rate.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Dunn was also slow so please don’t insult Tony. Wade Boggs however…
Yanksfan75
Would Gallo even be mlb player in any other era? Hitting 1.99 striking out nearly 40% of the time …..great he hits long homers and walks alot but in other times I don’t think he would last this long and never get rewarded with this kind of money 11 million smh….seems like monster over pay Gallo should knob Boras morning noon and night
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2 hours from now…
50% of posts= “Could be the STEAL of the off-season!”
50% of posts= “Wow HUGE overpay!”
Catuli Carl
Lol who thinks this is a steal? For Gallo maybe.
mlb1225
I mean, if he hits like 35+ home runs and displays elite defense in right, it’s a nice deal. Not very likely to happen, but still possible.
DonOsbourne
Exactly. Gallo is like Yasiel Puig. Everyone has very strong opinions on him.
hiflew
If he puts butts in seats, that really is all that matters.
positively_broad_st
I’m sure there was some competition for Gallo as well. GMs have loved this guy for years and now they have a chance of a bounce back year, in which he would be a bargain if it were to happen. It’s a gamble that more than one GM was willing to take. I thought Gallo would get around $9M. He got $11M. Seems about right in this blown up market…
YankeesBleacherCreature
What if he hits .160 with 40 hrs and .320 OBP? I’m torn.
Met-head
How does anyone sign this guy? He has almost never been good. He has a nice arm but seriously – there was no one else at this price?
GhostOfKevinElster
2 gold gloves. 2 all stars. 3 seasons of 38 plus bombs. It’s OK to be wrong.
vtadave
Mr Gallo – Your son stinks.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Nice arm is the answer. He can pitch mop in the lop-siders when the bully has tanked.
angryyankeesfan1
Twins might have a trade for Kepler in place. Yankees?
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Nooooooooooo!!!!!
vibratingmukas
I agree that he is a big strikeout guy but he is also the player that had shift used against the most in baseball. He’s also a plus defender. He’s a dark horse steal.
Simm
The defense doesn’t have to leave the dugout to get him out.
Dr2022
Funny!
Catuli Carl
$11 MILLION DOLLARS for that dude??
The Boras masterclass continues
DaddyDann
Could be the STEAL of the off-season!
SODOMOJO
I’m not saying it’s wrong; but it is shocking to see guys like Gallo/Belly get the annuals they have gotten after atrocious showings at the plate. I thought Belly’s deal would be more like THIS; and didn’t think there was any way Gallo would eclipse $10 mil. Go figure.
DaddyDann
Wow HUGE overpay!
GhostOfKevinElster
It’s really not
mlb1225
I mean it could be. If he hits like he did in 2019 and in the first half of 2021, it’s a fine deal. But if he hits like he did this past season or in the second half of 2021, that’s a big overpay. Massive risk, but the chances he delivers 40 home runs.
Y2KAK
There has to be more, also WTF twins that’s a massive overpay
receo
Say what you want but Boras gets his people paid…
duffys cliff
I think this may be the kind of spot for Gallo. I think the big markets are just not the places for him to succeed.
SODOMOJO
He is definitely a bit of a headcase guy. Extremely emotional player. It’s good and bad but when it’s bad it’s bad.
YourDreamGM
Will be the STEAL of the off-season!
Steve(shs22)
Falvine is that u ?
YourDreamGM
We are not rebuilding
Guertez
No shifting for next season will make a big difference for a guy like Gallo.
Redwolves3
Thank you Twins for signing Gallo. Was afraid Zaidi would sign Gallo as an OF impact bat.
fearthecub
Get him back to a smaller market with less scrutiny, and see if he breaks out of his funk. Definitely worth a flyer. $11 mil is a little steep, but not unrealistic when Bellinger got $17 mil guaranteed.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
What kind of sorcery is this?
THEY LIVE!!!
It’s called buggery. The Twins got violated bigly. This must be their “woke” signing.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Gallo’s defense is terrific but I didn’t think tbe Twins would be interested in that, unless he fills in for Buxton who is always hurt
fred-3
$11M for a guy with a hole in his bat
niedenfuer92
What a disaster.
niedenfuer92
What a disaster this off-season has been.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Feels like they gave him a token raise because he’s being signed as a free agent, so basically they gave him the minimum amount he could’ve been paid to represent the salary boost that generally comes with free agency after arbitration. Meh.
Milwaukee-2208
11 million for one of the worst players in baseball? Sheesh
Bart Harley Jarvis
I can still remember MLB Network throwing around the term ‘superstar’ regarding Joey Gallo. It drove me crazy, and it wasn’t only the likes of Carlos ‘Plakata’ Peña saying it.
CKinSTL
Seems pricey but they need someone to cover CF for the 100 games, or so, that Buxton will be injured.
Rangers29
C’mon MANEEEEEEE
WrongM
Both the move itself and price tag are definitely surprises – but beyond that, if there’s anything most observers would say the Twins DON’T need, it’s more lefty-hitting corner outfielders.
Maybe a Kepler trade is coming, as someone said above, or maybe in the Twins’ trade talks they’ve had more than one of their current OF (besides Buxton) come up repeatedly, so they figure one of them is going to go…
Bizarre move, though. Don’t really get it.
Oddvark
I was expecting him to get $10M, so this seems like just a small overpay, and arguably with the state of the market it’s not an overpay at all.
realisticnyyfan
So that means I can probably get a $15 million dollar deal!
jimmertee
Boras must have got all your he Twins execs and ownership drunk.
positively_broad_st
With the shift going away, it’ll be interesting to see how long it takes for “launch angle” hitters to realize that they no longer have to be three true outcome players. I’m thinking the stubborn ones will still hit .200 and strike out 200 times because they won’t adapt back to a more traditional, slightly uppercut swing…
GhostOfKevinElster
IM SO MAD I COULD WRITE A SHIRTLESS RAP
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
No, for the love of God thank of the children!!!
phantomofdb
The twins front office has no actual plans they just make random moves. What possible logic is there here lol
Tom Price
11MM for 290 K’s.
soxshortstop
Blasting Chaim all the time but at least he didn’t do this signing.
big tee
He stays healthy and he plays very solid defense at a few positions. Maybe he needs glasses? If he can manage even a .230 avg, this could be a steal. it’s not like they signed a broken corpse like Toronto did with Kiermaier lol
BuyBuyMets
The man his hit .230 exactly once. In a truncated 2019 season.
Without the shift his ceiling would seem to be around .210.
big tee
Fine, as long as he’s over .210 and he’s still walking a butt load I’ll take it with his defense. Take the shifts out and he’s definitely going to get on more in my opinion.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Gallo is an MVP candidate without the shift. Barry Bonds 2.0. CY should have offered 25 mil
Datashark
he has not proven this
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
True, but one can theorize
DanielDannyDano
Mark my words. This will be the best signing of the offseason.
bjtheduck
Waste of money. I’m just glad it wasn’t the Brewers.
Oddball Hererra
Absolutely classic “Get him two years after he was good” Twins move
WideWorldofSports
anything over 500k for gallo is a massive overpay
Pickle_Britches
Career avg .199? Lmao he’s getting worse every year. Definitely way to much. Would of been better off signing benatendi or conforto on 2 years 28-32 mill.
A's Fan
that is much higher value than i thought he would get. i was thinking he would be considered by the A’s at a 1 year @ 6 or 7 for a potential bounce back
Datashark
$11M for a batter that has not hit over .200 since 2019.
Pocketbooks have gone crazy.
jimmertee
Drunken mess of the twins front office and ownership.
Bucky
So Gallo just replaces Sano as the strikeout guy in the twins lineup. Somehow the twins keep finding new ways to disappoint in the off-season
Yanks2
If you’re in the MLB you need to be a professional…
BSHH
Of course, $ 11m is a lot of money. But I can see why the Twins risk to overpay on Gallo. With his defense, OBP and power he does have a certain floor; if he rediscovers his Texas swing, we might see a QO next fall.
Gruß,
BSHH
toomanyblacksinbaseball
After further review, I’m going to Wallgreen’s for a Navage and give my frontal lobe a water massage.
Bruce Gross
Train on track? The guy has a career .199 BA.
robbie83
Josh Reddick will be thrilled
HalosHeavenJJ
Gallo is a guy who intrigues me right now. Glove that plays all over the diamond, power, but a frightening K rate.
If the lack of a shift can get him to a decent average on OBP, this is a good signing. If not, it’s a one year deal.
BuyBuyMets
It’s likely a one year deal anyway.
If he miraculously resurrects his career, he will go where the $$$$ is next fall.
Seems like a fitting replacement for Sano.
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3yr/80mil deal waiting for him next November.
lkalliance
I don’t know, I can see taking the flyer. They must have a trade in place for Kepler, as noted. But they missed on Correa and on Rodon, perhaps they’ve missed on Swanson and it hasn’t leaked yet, they’ve got a lot of payroll room. Take a one-year flyer, with big potential upside. Reasonable people can argue whether the odds are good or not whether the Twins get any production out of him, but on a one-year flyer, might as well try.
I’m assuming this means they did not get Swanson.
deweybelongsinthehall
Only in America Folks! $11M?
jorge78
Seems like an overpay…..
dsett75
I never understood how guys can walk so much yet strike out so much. If you can see the ball that well, then why tf do you swing and miss so much.
mlb1225
I would love to see, just as an experiment, how a guy like Joey Gallo would fare if he took on more of a Jeff McNeil/Luis Arraez approach at the plate instead. Would he still hit for decent power because he clearly as much more raw power than either McNeil or Arraez, or would the approach simpily not work?
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He would hit like 2019 Bellinger.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Channel Reggie. Strikeout was byproduct of digging a tater.
mlb1225
Reggie dint really strike out all that much, just struck out a lot for his era and played a lot of years. He only ever once batted below the mendoza line, and that was when he was 37, and he struck out more than 150 times just three times with a K% below 23%.
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Mlb, are we talking the same all-time K leader Reggie here?? Haha Reggie should maybe be judged even a bit more harshly because of the era he played in. I don’t think many other guys came that close back then to his season K totals. I could be wrong. Always loved Reggie though.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Gallo clearly has a good eye for picking up pitches coming out of a pitcher’s hand. He’s consistently one of the best players at not swinging at pitches out of zone. The bat-speed is still there as well. Making contact is a separate skill-set. Twins must see something they can alter in his mechanics and headspace.
twinsfanrealist
Someone needs to take away the keys to the Twins bus because Falvey, Levine, and young pup Joey Pohlad have been over-served! Sad to watch a once (prior generation) intelligent small market organization devolve into a school-project for a disconnected, ultra rich elite family.
BuyBuyMets
Just what “multiple players” are left for the Twins to sign? They are more likely to grab Eric Hosmer for league minimum.
So what would you rather they have signed, Correa or Gallo and Vazquez?
kingsfan1968
WTF are the Twins thinking?
Steve(shs22)
They essentially have 1 Corner OF spot , 1B ( Sano gone , Arraez not a true 1bmen)
And DH open
Surely Gallo can take 1 of those spots
Ma4170
This contract is why i think conforto will end up closer to $15m than originally thought.
Macho King OG
There’s no pressure with the Twins. The shift is gone, I bet he’ll have a bounce back season and hit .220, 35 HR, 75 RBI, 180 SO
Not bad for Joey G
Steve(shs22)
I’ll say .212 / 323 OB% ~599 slugging %
And 31 Hrs
194 SO
But silver or bronze level defense
Lyman Bostock
I really hope this works out for the Twins.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Sorry about the ventilation, dude.
3768902
Just what the Twins needed. A LH OF. This team makes a roster like a dad who doesn’t check the fridge before grocery shopping.
phantomofdb
3 true outcomes is bad baseball. It makes the individual player look good but does not help the team. Want proof? Since 2016 the Astros have had the fewest strikeouts in the league pretty much every single year. During their dynasty. And in 2015? Fewest strikeouts was the royals
Moneyballer
Its ok to have 5 milks in there.
lollar2112
Until the Twins get pitching most of these position player moves won’t matter. Their rotation has a chance to be solid to good, but with no big time arms. Bullpens, which can be volitile year to year, still doesn’t look promising.
brokenbat
Oh boy. Our front office have lost their minds. Trying to figure out a way to hand out money and no players left. to give it to. This is not a good fit at even half the contract amount. The last year of this front office and they are in full panic mode.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Twins will not lose money regardless. Win 60, lose 60 and make a difference in the rest of the games.
You could count on one-time skipper Gardy to make enough bad decisions, especially in the playoffs and vs. the Yanks. When a neck-stepping was expected, he threw in the spares. Molitor was a disciple and now Rocco sucks the metric teat and continues the trend.
Joey Gallo signing is part of the lack of integrity that the FO has become. Count me out again.
emt126
Yanks gave give them Hicks too
emt126
Yanks can give them Hicks too
Yankeesforever
a one-month contract…yeah
One year?!!!!….bwhaahwahahahaha
theo13919
By the all star break he will be at 165 with 14 home runs and a K rate of 35%. He will be dfa’d and will be picked up by a team from Iceland.
Stu Macher’s burner
11mill?!?!!!
CaptainHooks
$11 million for Gallo and his .181 BA?
That makes sense.
Can we trade Buxton, Arraez, Gordon, and Polanco for a can of golf balls?
The Twins front office must be chasing the first draft pick of 2024.
benhen77
Poor man’s Bellinger. Needed a plausible backup for Buxton. This will do.
miltpappas
I can whiff 40% of the time, too. Where’s my 11 mil?
Jordan 5
Wow baseball money is out of control
CaptainHooks
How is Joey Gallo remotely better than Miquel Sano, who the Twins cut while still being on the hook for $2.75 million in option buyouts NOT to pay Sano $10.1 million in 2023?
gorav114
Makes the Frazier for 8 mil deal a lot better. 11 for Gallo is excessive
Poster formerly known as . . .
Joey’s agent hit a home run.
Mystery Team
Joey Gallo is the result of modern analytics.
Buuba ho tep
And analytics is the result of nerds
Fg-3
Joey Gallo… jerry callo? There are people that are saying that he might benefit from no shift.. are y’all joking. He can’t make contact. 11 mil to be a outfielder. Not a hitter he could close his eyes and pray to hit. And he still wouldn’t. Twins guys what the f were you thinking
Carl W.
FFS!!…..WHY!!!……
Moneyballer
Twins gave Miguel Sano 10 million for all his strikeouts, they can give Gallo 11 million for the same – at least gallo can hold down an outfield spot and hit the longball at a better clip. He has a decent chance to regain form and be an effective player and tough out at the dish.
Troutahni
Sano and Gallo. That’s 2 automatic outs in the Twins line up. Maybe they can talk Ruth Buzzi out of retirement.
twins33
Sano is a free agent
luckyh
Crazy money this year, wow.
Buuba ho tep
Wondering if the pirates had signed him, if all the old time buccos fans would react. They bad mouth Nutting for being cheap, he is but a business man. They would still bad mouth him and the pirates saying it’s a bad signing. Tell me what you think a good pirate signing would be????
Mike Weinand
“This only adds to a cluttered outfield mix, as the club has many options on its roster. It was reported last week that the club is getting trade interest in Max Kepler, as they also have Trevor Larnach, Alex Kirilloff, Kyle Garlick, Gilberto Celestino, Royce Lewis, Nick Gordon, Matt Wallner and Mark Contreras in their outfield mix.”
Buxton, Larnach, Kiriloff, and Lewis all missed significant time last year due to injuries.
Other than Buxton and Kepler, only Garlick has more than two years big league experience, and he’s only played 144 games over the last four years.
Other than Buxton and Kepler, only Gordon has played more than 145 games at the major league level.
Mark Contreras and Matt Wallner have a COMBINED 46 major league games.
I really don’t think all of these guys are really in the mix for starting roles in the big leagues
larsoeri
This is a joke, right? Haha, funny stuff Twins…
Yanks4life22
Lolololol……$11 million?!?!?
Bright Side
I hope he can turn it around. He needs to stop launching and focus on contact, letting his strength do the work.
metvibes
I know it’s the Christmas season but the Minnesota Twins sure do believe in miracles.
GarryHarris
55 HR.
MonkeySpanker
What a garbage signing. The Twins need to dump those two idiots in the front office and get on with some actual upgrades, You know, like some stud pitching, or maybe a decent shortstop.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Gallo is a shorter Adam Dunn who hits for a lower batting average. I think this guy is fixable if the right hitting coach got ahold of him and Gallo took his advice. He is 29 years old he could still turn it around.
spitball
In what world is JD Martinez worth 10 mil and Gallo worth 11?
benhen77
JDM is a pure DH, which has less demand than an OF capable player. However, I also suspect he took a bit of a discount to join the Dodgers and chase another ring.
etex211
Joey Gallo is one of the best athletes in all of baseball….
Unfortunately, he is too stubborn to listen to his hitting coaches.
ETA: When Gallo was a Ranger, I used to always say the following: Any opposing manager should just tell his pitchers that if they ever throw this guy a fastball, they are DFA’d. Give this guy a steady diet of breaking balls down and away, and he will deliver a K every single time.
Green Yankee
As a Yankee fan…this is truly an AMAZING deal. I can’t believe the twins would ever do this!!!!!
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Since this is a post about a free agent with virtually no obvious value who got a very cushy 1 year deal-
What do people think the market is for guys like Gary Sanchez and Aroldis Chapman? I can’t imagine there’s any market, really….
What’s the line between “there’s enough upside and they’ve earned a generous market rate by being a veteran” and “they might not want to retire yet, but they don’t have enough value to justify giving them a roster spot, let alone a premium salary of high seven to low eight figures.”?
YankeesBleacherCreature
Sanchez is a DH who can backup catch. Chapman has phoned it in and will probably retire if he doesn’t get the right deal. There are better options remaining in the FA market.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Yeah Chapman seems like a guy who’s made enough money that if he’s smart with it, can retire right now set for life with multi-generational wealth of some kind.
He’s probably seen around $65M cash, give or take a few million depending on taxes- I assume he was renting his NYC condo or it’s something he can flip quickly- looks like it was basically a home gym with some spartan furniture.
Even with all his toys and whatnot, I would guess he’s been able to bank the vast majority of his earnings- assuming he hasn’t been paying his entourage six figure salaries to hang out with him plus paying for houses, etc. etc.
Anyway- Chapman can 100% retire on what he’s earned, assuming he’s been judicious with his money.
But there were a few quotes from him last year about wanting an extension with the Yankees that indicated, in my opinion, he really wanted an extra $30-40M in salary, which could indicate he needed the income and it wasn’t just about a desire to keep playing to keep playing, albeit for his going rate.
Sanchez on the other hand, hasn’t made anywhere near enough to retire going by lifestyle assumptions of young baseball players earning millions and looking toward free agency to solidify their finances.
I can’t imagine he’d get more than 1 year/$10M or 2 years/$18M at best- and this would be a team overpaying him a bit.
I hope he bounces back enough and can have another 5-10 years of playing, even if he never earns super star salaries- just so he can say he had a full career, put together some solid career stats, etc.
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MLBTR’s…..You guys really gotta start putting “UPDATE” in the signing headlines when they become “official.” If it takes an extra 5 or 10 minutes then I understand not doing it. But there are plenty of people who don’t follow baseball as closely as a lot of us on here who see these signing headlines from a week or 2 ago and think they JUST happened! I’ve got 2 calls from friends who think the Twins nabbed Gallo an hour ago! Please consider it fellas I can’t see any reason not to.
etex211
Joey Gallo is Bo Gentry.
Buuba ho tep
Because it’s called common sense, and some just don’t have it. I always said that you can have the highest IQ, but if you don’t when to cross the street. Then you have a problem. And I agree with you on these updates