The Twins have received interest from other clubs in starting pitchers Sonny Gray and Kenta Maeda, reports Dan Hayes of the Athletic. It’s not clear how open Minnesota is to moving either player, although it stands to reason they’d at least gauge the market and see if another club were willing to bowl them over with an offer.
It’s unsurprising other teams would eye the pair of Minnesota righties, both of whom have established track records as productive MLB starters. Gray would be the more appealing of the duo, as Maeda didn’t pitch in 2022 recovering from Tommy John surgery he underwent in September ’21. Gray dealt with a few health issues himself, missing time with a pair of strains in his right hamstring and a pectoral strain. Around the trio of injured list stints, the righty pitched well, though.
Acquired from the Reds in Spring Training, Gray made 24 starts during his first season in Minnesota. He posted a 3.08 ERA across 119 2/3 innings, fanning an above-average 24% of opponents against an average 7.4% walk rate. Gray’s 44.5% ground-ball percentage was a personal low, but it was still a bit better than par. At his best, the two-time All-Star generates a rare combination of whiffs and grounders. He hasn’t reached 30 starts in either of the past two seasons, but Gray’s an upper mid-rotation caliber arm when he’s healthy.
At year’s end, Minnesota made the easy call to exercise a $12.5MM option on his services. He’s slated to return to the Twin Cities for what’ll be his age-33 campaign before hitting the open market for the first time.
Maeda is also down to his final year under contract, with his salary to be determined by his health. The righty is headed into the final season of the eight-year deal he initially inked with the Dodgers coming off from Japan. That deal was layered with innings-based incentives, as the Dodgers expressed concerns about Maeda’s medical evaluation at the time.
The 34-year-old is due a $3MM base salary, and he’ll lock in a $150K bonus for being on the Opening Day roster. Maeda can earn an additional $10MM annually in incentives. He’d pick up $1MM each for reaching 15 and 20 starts, and $1.5MM apiece at 25, 30 and 32 starts; he can tack on up to $3.5MM based on his innings totals between 90 and 200 frames in a season, and he’d receive a $1MM assignment bonus in the event of a trade.
While there’s a chance for Maeda to earn more than Gray does next season, that’d only be in the event of his staying healthy after a lost season. If his elbow holds up and he regains his pre-surgery form, the 6’1″ hurler would be a nice addition to the middle of a starting staff. Maeda was brilliant in the shortened 2020 season, securing a second-place finish in AL Cy Young balloting with a 2.70 ERA in 11 starts. He struggled to a 4.66 mark in 21 appearances the next year, but his strikeout and walk rates remained strong. Since coming off from the Dodgers during the 2020-21 offseason, Maeda has provided the Twins 173 frames of 3.90 ERA ball with a 27.5% strikeout percentage.
It’s worth reiterating that while there’s no harm for other teams in reaching out to president of baseball operations Derek Falvey and his staff, Minnesota isn’t under any pressure to deal either pitcher. They’re both a year from free agency, but the Twins are generally expected to make another run at competing in 2023. Minnesota has had two straight disappointing seasons, and they’ll now have to overcome the free agent loss of Carlos Correa. Yet the Twins have ample payroll room, with a projected 2023 payroll nearly $30MM south of this past season’s Opening Day mark.
The Twins have been tied to each of the top two remaining free agents, Dansby Swanson and Carlos Rodón. They could fit either player into the long-term budget without subtracting anyone from the existing roster, and landing either would signal a firm commitment to trying to compete in the American League’s weakest division. Still, the Twins have also shown at least some willingness to shuffle up their MLB roster. They’ve reportedly given some consideration to moving defending AL batting champion Luis Arraez if it nets them major league help elsewhere, and they could explore a similar path with right fielder Max Kepler.
As things stand, Gray and Maeda are set to feature in an Opening Day rotation that’ll include Tyler Mahle, Joe Ryan and Bailey Ober. Prospects Simeon Woods Richardson and Josh Winder are on hand as depth options, as are Cole Sands and Louie Varland. Minnesota could welcome Chris Paddack back in the season’s final two months if his recovery from a second career Tommy John surgery goes according to plan. There’s enough health uncertainty the Twins could choose to stockpile their rotation depth, though the presence of a few interesting younger options at least gives the front office alternatives if they were to ponder making Gray or Maeda available.
mnnorthernjuice
Twins should keep every healthy pitcher they have!
BaseballisLife
So you are saying they should trade both of these guys who cannot stay healthy?
CaptainJudge99
Don’t do it Yankees. The Twinkies will just use the cash, to sign Carlos Rodon to that $200 million dollar contract for 7 years.
ASapsFables
Makes sense. The Twins should trade their two best and much cheaper SP’s to free up significantly more cash over 7 years for one who has an even worse track record of arm injuries. lol
fre5hwind
Sonny had a comeback season this year.
CaptainJudge99
Hey the Twinkies owe it to their fans to be competitive in the AL Central. If trading those pieces, help you to sign a Rodon you just do it. Yes, he has an arm history. I get it. But offering him the 7 years just might get him in Minnesota. He’s definitely worth it.
buffalobob88
Don’t do what, trade for Gray??? He was a train wreck during his 1st stint as a Yankee. I don’t think Cashman will bring him back at any cost.
CaptainJudge99
@buffalobob88- yeah I was just kidding around, I don’t want Sonny anywhere near NY. Maeda is another story, since he gets guys out and doesn’t throw 100. Let’s face it this guy is a gamer that any team would be lucky to have.
MDW
Kenta and Sonny will be trade bait at mid-season, depending on the Twins performance at the deadline. If they are competitive, I look for contract extension offers.
Kenta doesn’t require top velocity, given his pitch mix. So, age and recovery are less of a burden for him.
Sonny Gray had a terrific first season with the Twins. If he can repeat it through mid-season, he’ll get an offer extension.
Given the bevy of young pitchers on the cusp, there is little interest in adding more prospects
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
LORD just throw Arraez, Buxton, Mahle out to the wolves as well and start the 7 year re-build. How depressing. The way it’s looking baseball only needs about 12 teams to compete and spend money so let’s quit kidding ourselves and have a league contraction and liquidate about 15 franchises. Good thing Seahawks are on Thursday Night Football tomorrow, I need a break from this ridiculous off-season.
RobM
Take a deep breath. Count to five. Exhale. Repeat.
You’ll be fine.
Johnny Vegas
Yes, he will be fine. But he’s also right. Do you not look at this off season and think it’s ridiculous? We’re going back to the mid ’90s to mid ’00s of haves and have nots. Those were ugly times.
Rsox
I don’t think we are going back to the “bad old days” as much as it just seems the NL has been far more aggressive in player movement this winter than the AL. There is no reason the Twins can’t compete in the AL Central next season. The Guardians have added Josh Bell and Mike Zunino, the White Sox Mike Cleavinger, the Tigers Matthew Boyd and Michael Lorenzon, and the Royals Ryan Yarbrough. None of those are earth shattering moves and none put any one team ahead of the other.
Johnny Vegas
I agree there’s no reason the twins can’t compete next year. But what I was saying is it’s the haves and have nots. The large markets will buy all the good players for the next half decade, and all the mid and small market teams will buy no one and it’s going to be a lopsided disaster for major League baseball. I honestly believed that the players union won the last negotiation. And they’re getting paid… But I wonder if they are killing the sport at the same time.
someoldguy
that would be the re-re-re-rebuild… they 4th since 2011.. and its all because they are waiting for the perfect storm… hoping to get lucky… instead of gambling money and resources to build winners…. no.. they’d rather claim they are competitive and sell tickets..
damascusj
Seattle?! Lol
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
@damascus That’s my team, that’s where I’m from. Hey ho, hard concept to understand. I like the Mariners and Seahawks , wild concept to grasp huh? (Don’t do Kracken or Sounders though, not a complete sports crackpot.)
DogDays2
After tomorrow night, you’re going to need a break from the Seahawks too. : )
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Definitely, and I don’t think the 49ers with their 3rd string QB starting will help us in any way, but that’s the only way I could see it happening…that and the Seahawks playing like they did earlier in the season when they won 4 in a row. Yes; it’s a big ask.
YourDreamGM
Trading expiring contracts for prospects is the only way a small market team can sustain competitiveness. They can still sign or trade for someone almost as good and reload the farm some. Have extra money for next year. They might have zero desire to trade them. This is just rumor.
someoldguy
they are now a small market team.. They have the ability to spend in the top 1/3… but have refused to do so since they got Target Field from the people..
YourDreamGM
Their tv deal is small market and that’s what matters.
Johnny Vegas
They are in the middle of negotiating a new TV deal for the start of the 2024 season. There are mid-market team and should be spending as such. Beyond that, the ownership in front office said that they would push the pedal to the metal. As soon as they got competitive. They have the best record in the American League 2019 through 2020. They did not push the pedal to the metal. But they were more than willing to take half a billion dollars to build their stadium.
Big whiffa
Well said ! Yet they had the assets to push w krilloff and Lewis. Those guys where both top 25 prospects at that time and Lewis could have headlined for any tradable player in baseball.
2 years later and they lost 10s of millions in value holding onto those 2.
JoeBrady
They have the ability to spend in the top 1/3…
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They are also 20th in attendance.
This is not targeted at anyone in particular, but there are a decent amount of posters in here that think ALL teams can spend whatever they want. The reality is that it is much like real life. Some people can only afford The Bronx, some can afford Bronxville, and most live in-between.
JoeBrady
2 years later and they lost 10s of millions in value holding onto those 2.
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Just for the record:
1-Not all prospects succeed.
2-All 30 teams have prospects that fail.
Not directed at anyone in particular, but there are a fair amount of posters in here that can name every prospect that fails (Dalbec, Chavis, Middlebrooks), but conveniently forget Bogaerts, Betts & Bradley.
Big whiffa
NY,ny, phili, tor, Boston, cubs la la sf and both Texas sd teams make 12 that can spend more than twins.
Cards Braves sea wash ws Detroit Arizona. More like 15-20th in ability to spend.
And I agree 100% that most prospects fail.
All the more reason they shoulda went all in in 19/20. They could be the ones w Castillo or whoever else has been available since then
Big whiffa
The lack of parity in baseball is out of control yet the league seems to be ok and even embrace it. Shame !
DogDays2
It’s not that the league embraces it. It’s just that the owners and players association don’t care enough to change it.
JoeBrady
Cleveland and TB both made the playoffs last year, and they are decidedly small market SD, Seattle and StL did, and they are mid-market. And NYY, NYM, and LAD made it, and they are large markets.
It seems like a fair spread to me.
This one belongs to the Reds
They only made the playoffs because they expanded the playoffs. I still say it was because of optics. They try to downplay the obvious disparity.
bigdaddyt
“Hey twins can I interest you in some Yusei”
Shatkins
brokenbat
Good lord. Is there a more underwhelming team in baseball than the Twins to support as a fan. Never any kind of a plan. No idea what they might do other than they won’t try to put a championship caliber team together. Still relying on their newer stadium for people to come.
someoldguy
I’d like someone to detail how much better the Team is off since they Fired Ryan and replaced him with the Dynamic Duo… I sure haven’t seen it… and I’ve been a twins fan since the 1960’s… loyalty dies hard..
Zakis
Funny you say that. Some friends of mine and I were discussing whether or not there’s any reason to go through the gates this coming season. None of us could come up with an answer
elmedius
Opening day and when Ohtani is in town?
YourDreamGM
Most small market teams fans are just as miserable or more so. There are teams that have been rebuilding since 2017 2018 and havn’t made playoffs yet and a few look like they need to rebuild again.
someoldguy
Mn isn’t a small market team… they have been re-re-re-rebuilding since 2011 the year after they got a bright fancy new publicly funded stadium that filled their coffers… but wasn’t spent on the team..
YourDreamGM
Yes they are. Look at their tv deal.
Johnny Vegas
Their TV deal is up after the end of this season. It will no longer be comparable to small markets. But they will continue to spend like a small market team. Stop defending billionaires who take hundreds of million dollars from taxpayers.
YourDreamGM
I never started
IronBallsMcGinty
Dude, I’m a White Sox fan. Don’t talk to me about “underwhelming” lol.
phantomofdb
Brokenbat you are dead on. Ever since Falvey and Levine have taken over there has been no sense of a plan. It’s just flurries of random moves to remain mediocre. Acquire Correa on a one year deal? Great, then they patchwork a bullpen with minor league signings and instruct the manager to pull their starters after 2 times through the lineup without question or pause. Now sign Vázquez and “try” to sign Correa (by offering him less than he turned down last year) but trade away urshela and now talking about trading away kepler and multiple starting pitchers.
They haven’t developed pitching. They lose the majority of the trades they make. They have had one good season, with a juiced ball and still got swept out of the playoffs. They think they’re the smartest in the room but misuse metrics and make nonsense trades. They don’t do their homework – like the pagan and paddack acquisition which was literally the same players the padres were shopping to the Mets, who laughed at it and said no way- these two took the deal and tried to sell it to their fans as players they’ve “been wanting for years”. And on top of never being great at the major league level, they have the 23rd ranked farm system.
Twins have been a disaster since these guys took over.
And possibly most importantly they’ve become unfun to watch. Pitcher having a dominant start? 58 pitches, 1 hit, or 65 pitches no hit… doesn’t matter. Get ‘em out of there because it’s the third time through. Only for someone like pagan to immediately serve up a homer. They’re a terrible team to follow
Samuel
phantomofdb;
Stand back for a moment…..
What Falvey and Levine do every offseason and during the year is – “fill holes”.
That’s what 98% of the people and the writers here want every team to do.
So what’s wrong with that? You want ‘A Plan’. Why? MLB teams don’t need so stinkin’ Plan!
P.S. I came from the Orioles board last night. The Orioles have ‘A Plan’. They’re carrying it out. The posters don’t recognize that. They want he Orioles to “fill holes”.
someoldguy
“we’re not rebuilding… we’re retooling”… what the Dynamic duo said last year… well they certainly don’t know their tools… as their record shows… 6 years in and the Twins are no better off then when they took over.. their pitching is still in the bottom 1/2 of the league.. almost all the prospects they were gifted are worn out injured or gone… So fire them and the ownership and get us a real team..
YourDreamGM
I thought they put in a strong effort last year. I liked most or all their moves. Sometimes you can do everything right and things just don’t work out. Getting Correa for that 1 year is a gift you will probably never see again. And they kept trying to improve after that, even at trade deadline.
someoldguy
I hated the signing… they needed Pitching… have for decades… they weren’t smart enough to trade him at the deadline for pitching.. they held Sayno like he was the golden child.. refused to trade him for pitching for years… you may think ” competitive ” is a good standard to shoot for.. Me I play to win.. and so should ever MLB team that gets billions in public subsidies..
YourDreamGM
Giants will disagree with you having paid 320 million more than the twins did for him yet they let Rodon go.
damascusj
AJ Preller has entered the chat…
nitnontu
So are Twins more likely to trade one or both of these pitchers if they don’t get Rodon or Swanson? Seems like trading either one could result in some good prospects.
someoldguy
prospects are suspects… that is a fact… they fail at very high rates especially pitchers… too bad they didn’t Trade Sayno when he was worth something… etc….etc…etc…
YourDreamGM
Who knows. May not trade any. Depends on your definition of good. Look at what they gave to get those guys and now they aren’t as healthy, older, less control, and more expensive.
Gus Leggett
Good prospects? As most Twins fans can attest to, we are sick of “prospects”. We have been feed the term “prospects” for 30 years now, since the ’91 WS.. As it sits today, they are about $45 million UNDER last years payroll. They can afford to sign both Rodon and Swanson. If I was a player for the Twins and heard that the front office was taking calls on 2 of the best pitchers, I’d be the next phone to them, asking for a trade. The Duo keeps talking about the fact that there are not any payroll limitations, yet can never “just get it done” with signings.
Murphy NFLD
There’s an interview with Bauer, Sonny grey and a couple other guys. I believe it’s on Bauer’s channel it’s around the time they both played in Cincinnati. Sonny goes on to say part of the reason he didn’t do well with NYY was the media and the general hub bub that comes with big market teams.Multipul Ppl always asking questions daily. “your having a bad stretch of 3 games Sonny, have any idea why? Those types of things he felt made him play worse, so any big or even medium big market wouldn’t be good for him IMO
nitnontu
Or do they have more value if they wait and trade them during the season?
YourDreamGM
6 months is better than 2 months. A team could be desperate and you get same value. Or how about this. What if they get injured and you get nothing!
Saskatchewan Jaysfan
I feel for u guys. In my honest opinion, I think the Twinkies should trade their top veterans(even Buxton), and start a real rebuild. I know alot of fans won’t like that, but if they’re patient..they could be a strong franchise again..but they need to start over from scratch and redo it, especially with pitching. They need to try and copy what the Guardians do. That is a very smart small market organization that understands that u need to develop your own pitching. Do that, and the Twinkies can be a future powerhouse, but they need a complete overhaul in my opinion. In your division, I don’t think it would take too long because u guys don’t have to deal with big market teams like we do(Yankees,Redsox) who will spend ridiculous money every year to compete, or have to deal with the smartest franchise of them all..the Rays. Look at the Orioles. They got beat up for half a dozen Yeats, but now it’s paying off for them. They developed a really good lineup with young talent(Rutschmen, Henderson etc), and soon they will have a young,strong starting pitching staff. They did it right. They spent a few tough years getting beat…but in that time, they used their high draft picks wisely, and now they are ready to go toe to toes with the Yankees and Jays
Saskatchewan Jaysfan
As I said earlier..the Twins should just do a full rebuild and tank it for a few years like the Astros did( overall probably the worst team in MLB from 09-15),and what the Orioles just went through(17-21 the worst team in MLB). Yes it sucks to be at the bottom..but if u draft right,and use your high draft picks correctly..u can end up having a powerful franchise for 5-15 years easy. The Astros were awful for 5+ years, but in that time they drafted Altuve,Bregman,Alvarez,Valdez,Tucker,Springer,Correa,etc.and that patience led them to 2 championship seasons with 6 straight ALCS appearances. That is how u do it
Big whiffa
Terrible idea ! Houston is going through a level of successful panned out talent unparalleled in mlb history! And the orioles are fools gold. They’ll never crack the top 2 in the east.
Most prospects don’t pan out. Look at krilloff and Lewis. Former #1 prospect in baseball and another top 20 guy. Both busts
In the AL central – u just got to go for it – like the Indians do. It’s way easier to be the Indians than the Astros !
ohyeadam
So they should bottom out for multiple years and hope on a bunch of ifs? Teams already need a bunch of ifs to go right for success no reason to put out an honestly bad product while you’re waiting for the magic beans to grow.
The new lottery doesn’t reward teams for being crap. We got the 5th pick next year all while having a competitive interesting fun season to follow. We need to win ONE PLAYOFF GAME before they’re allowed to soak in the profits of crappy teammage
twins33
I’m assuming you mean their draft position instead of prospect status as neither Kirilloff or Lewis were ever the “#1 prospect in baseball.”
twins33
If Lewis was going to hurt his knee, he was going to hurt his knee.
They play Gordon, who is a utility infielder, all over the place and I don’t see too many people complaining about it over and over like they do with Lewis (yes, I know and agree that Lewis is better than Gordon). I don’t think Gordon played OF, at least professionally, ever until he got to the majors. Now it’s his most played position.
Lewis will be fine. We’ve heard for years that his most likely position was CF (or OF in general depending on Buxton’s health). Most didn’t think he had what it took to remain a SS and none of that has gone away yet.
twins33
Think there is something wrong with the app cause I get an error message after I post and some of my posts end up replying in the incorrect places…
Armaments216
Agreed, if they’re healthy they’re probably more valuable at the deadline. But at that point the Twins will only trade them if they’re out of contention. Right now they can spin it as retooling.
BaseballisLife
Interest from the Padres? They seem to be in on everyone.
3768902
Can’t help but to think this would not be a topic of discussion if the Twins hadn’t played their top SS prospect out of position on a surgically-repaired knee.
Johnny Vegas
Sweet Zeus, thank you! That was a fireable offense. As far as I’m concerned. The guy you drafted first overall in 2017 you decide to stick out in centerfield. I don’t think he played that position anywhere besides the fall league, correct?
someoldguy
Sayno in the outfield.. and broke his leg.. hey twins are all about what is cheap and easy not what is smart
Samuel
someoldguy;
It’s not that they’re “cheap””……
It’s that they do what’s expedient instead of what’s right.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
WOW, was that the goofy manager’s call to play him in CF, or more likely a commandment from above??
phantomofdb
Ding ding. Twins have no actual clue what they’re doing it’s always just random whims. Including signing Correa last year and then patching together a bullpen while saying starters can’t go more than twice through a lineup. Disaster of a team
Buzz Killington
They should strengthen their pitching not subtract.
YourDreamGM
They could do both.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Jack Leiter for Sonny Gray and Max Kepler? It’s probably an overpay for Texas, but so be it. It doesn’t make sense to sign 3 new starters and then leave the outfield as is. Gray and Gray would be fun. Also, it helps to have even more depth.
Zakis
Do you think the Rangers would pull the trigger on that deal? I like the framework idea of the trade though
YourDreamGM
If the Rangers had a need they would have just spent the money in free agency. Not like they are concerned about spending money or overpaying.
Rsox
Not sure the Rangers are going to be that quick to give up on Leiter after only one season and for two players that are both free agents next winter.
Plenty of Outfielders still available in free agency and if the Rangers were going to trade Leiter it would probably be in a deal for someone like Bryan Reynolds from Pittsburgh
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I think the Mariners would be the ideal landing spot for Reynolds but then again I am biased and greedy.
Zakis
Back to rebuilding. Dang
YourDreamGM
Too soon to call.
DogDays2
I’m pretty sure the Yankees won’t be a mystery team interested in Sonny Gray.
User 3663041837
Yanks might have interest in Kepler though.
CaptainJudge99
Yeah of course, if the Twinkies take back Donaldson or Hicks.
Dreg
The Twins FO would be stupid to trade away anyone from their rotation.
For once in the Twins actually have a starting 5 that looks at the very least formidable.
Gray, Mahle, Ryan, Kenta, Ober.
That’s a front 5 i can at least put some confidence in as a fan, to put out a solid 5 innings
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I am still flummoxed about what happened with that Dobnak guy with the huge glasses who was good enough to start against the Yankees in the postseason (not so effectively) but then disappeared forever down some worm hole. Cuz I never hear his name anymore.
The Einheri
Randy Dobnak ruptured two of the pulley tendons in his right middle finger, and, he wasn’t sure if he could ever pitch professionally again if he had corrective surgery, so he’s hoping it can heal on its own, I guess. Twins dropped him from their 40-man roster, but he’s still in their organization. It’s possible that he might be able to pitch again.
phantomofdb
It’s a decent starting rotation but one that isn’t allowed to go deep in games, and paired with a bullpen with ONE fear-inducing arm. Don’t be tricked into thinking they’re gonna succeed, they don’t have a good pitching plan
Samuel
phantomofdb;
Remember the stretch last year where Cleveland beat them multiple times in the last few innings?
When a team becomes predictable, it’s easy to plan for them and beat them. That’s bad enough. But when a team becomes so enthralled with a philosophy (in this case based on statistics) such as get a pitcher out in 5 innings or 2 times through the order – that even the fans posting on MLB chatroom boards know – that’s bad. But what’s worse is when the team thinks it’s competing with Cleveland for the AL Central crown, and that teams manager – Terry Francona – is the far and away the best manager in MLB, then expect that at the beginning of the game he knows how he’s going to run the game to get favorable matchups with whatever pitchers come out of he Twins bullpen in the 8th and 9th innings….if the game even comes to that.
I have to believe that Falvey and Levine know this. Heck, Falvey worked with Francona for years in Cleveland. I felt for years that there was owner interference from the guy in the family they just replaced with another guy from the family. Who knows? I sure don’t.
junior25
Cubs need a SS
What you want for Martin?
BStrowman
Austin Martin isn’t the answer.
Serious doubts on whether Martin is a SS. He’s going to be a bad one if he is. He has to hit a lot better than he did last year to even matter.
Stock is way down. Looks like more of a super utility guy w/ no position that he’ll field well.
troutfishing
I would be so stoked to wake up to news that Kenta Maeda is now an Angel. 😀
5TUNT1N
Totally sucks to be a Twins fan right now, I get it as a Giants fan who’s missed out on every free agent/Stanton option available. Don’t fret twins fans this deal isn’t great excluding the aav in the early years. You got outbid no shame in that! It’s happened to us a dozen times! The fact that you had Buxton and correa and decent filler should have you excited still! I wish my team was always spending money like the padres but they aren’t, we won this one similar to how you got correa last season. I was so mad that the giants didn’t at the very least beat the twins offer then! Ended up with Rodon on similar values etc. missed playoffs by 6-8 games what was correa war again? Maybe judge woulda signed if we had correa and Rodon in house already then we are really cookin! Been some bad years since the 5 good ones in Northen California, today is our day you will have yours soon enough. I love Buxton when he’s on the field , the most exciting player other than like Julio right now when he’s healthy.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
It was my impression that Judge and Correa would have butted heads being on the same team. Seems like Correa likes to be the big man in the clubhouse, and probably didn’t want to share. (And that’s typical and fine because Correa is an outstanding leader. ) (Judge too, but he does it in a more subtle way.)
5TUNT1N
It was more a point to like with ohtani next off season the best team stands one of the best chances.
BeansforJesus
The Twins aren’t competing in 2023 and both of them are free agents at the end of the year. Gray should 100% be traded prior to the season. Maeda wont return anything now, so run him out to start the year and get what you can at the deadline because it can’t be worse than what you would get now.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Kenta Maeda for Taylor Trammel???
WrongM
Ha, absolutely not. How Maeda will return from injury is a crapshoot, but his great 2020 and a couple strong months within an otherwise disappointing 2021 set far too high a ceiling for him, even after elbow surgery, to trade for a 4th outfielder.
The variance in Maeda’s outcomes is too high, I think – I agree that the team that has him now should hold on to him and run him out next year rather than trying to establish value in a trade.
JoeBrady
No, imo. One year of Maeda, and you aren’t sure he is healthy, for 5 years of Trammell? Trammell has suspect splits, but not enough sample size to say they are a deal-breaker.
The floor for Trammell is likely a #4 OF. The ceiling is 5 years as a regular. I don’t think one year of Maeda, even if healthy would be worth 5 years of Trammell.
tbone0816
I bet the Cardinals are calling!!
Jaysfan1981
Arraez Kepler and whatever best SP prospect you have in AA or AAA for Kirk and Biggio, that might even Bevan overpay by the Jays
twins33
The Twins don’t need a catcher anymore. Don’t know why they’d want or need Biggio and I doubt they trade Arraez for a prospect. They want a top tier MLB pitcher
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Sonny averaged 15 outs per start. That’s heavy lifting.
slydevil
Do the twins have another 41-year-old power hitter they can fleece the rays for a good pitching prospect?
I don’t see moving gray or maeda as a solution. Maeda has worked outta the pen before if he has a slow start. Or, he can do well and be traded mid season if needed. Trading – frontline starter in gray to add to your bottom line of pitching to start seems like a bad move.
Jerry Cantrell
Sonny Gray and Max Kepler to St Louis for Nolan Gorman and Matthew Liberatore. Who says no?
Jrnomo100
Dejong and Matz maybe.
benhen77
Been beating the drum on Rodon to the Twins since the trade deadline. Signing him makes no sense if you are going to diminish the depth behind him. Gray and Maeda are probably your game 2 and 3 starters in the playoffs. If their reasonable salaries are preventing Twins from making the move on Rodon, it’s a sad state of affairs.
twinky
I smell a rebuild in the air. Smells kinda stinky
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Varland will be an option. He had a couple quality spots at the end of the season.
ohyeadam
One of each group for a better starter with 3 years of control
Gray/Mahle/Maeda
Larnach/Kirilloff/Kepler
Martin/Julien/Rodriguez
HubertHumphrey
If any team agrees to this deal, they’re just begging to be robbed.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Minnesota mediocrity. It’s the land of good enough.
larsoeri
Twins should trade everything of value, use the savings to add a few more amenities to Target Field and let Dick Bremer continue to give fans a 2-3 hour infomercial each game about how good the organization and ballpark is…
TwinkiesNvrDie
spot on….and sadly so true
HubertHumphrey
Twins have little chance to do more than win the Central. May as well shop the one-year players, and possibly be surprised. (Does anyone think that either pitcher will make more than 2/3 of his starts anyway?)