With a frenzied Winter Meetings in the rear-view mirror, here are some things we’ll be watching around baseball throughout the day:
1. After Bogaerts stunner, what’s next for the shortstop market?
Late last night, the Padres and Xander Bogaerts agreed to a massive 11-year, $280MM deal. While things seemed to be progressing toward a reunion between Bogaerts and the Red Sox as recently as yesterday afternoon, the Padres managed to pry away Boston’s longtime shortstop with a huge offer that runs through Bogaerts’ age-40 season, wildly surpassing even optimistic predictions; MLBTR predicted Bogaerts would receive a seven-year, $189MM deal. Such an expectation-shattering deal could certainly come with implications for the top remaining shortstops on the market, Carlos Correa and Dansby Swanson. With Bogaerts approaching the $300MM mark, and fellow top shortstop Trea Turner reaching it, it seems reasonable to expect that Correa will surpass that benchmark. Swanson isn’t likely to push into that stratosphere, but he could also benefit and beat expectations — particularly given the wide breadth of teams still looking for a shortstop. The Cubs and Twins are both known to be in on both remaining shortstops, but they’re far from the only suitors, even with the Dodgers reportedly bowing out of the Correa market. The Giants are pursuing Correa after missing on Aaron Judge, while both the Red Sox and Cardinals have been linked to Swanson. However, both Boston and St. Louis made significant signings yesterday that could theoretically take them out of the inflated shortstop market: a deal with Willson Contreras for the Cardinals, and deals for both NPB star Masataka Yoshida and closer Kenley Jansen for the Red Sox.
2. Where will the Astros turn at catcher?
The aforementioned five-year, $87.5MM deal between Contreras and St. Louis leaves Houston in a difficult position, as they were the other main suitor for Contreras. The reigning World Series champs have a clear need at catcher, where Martin Maldonado and Korey Lee are the current tandem. The next-best free agent on the market, Christian Vazquez, has been clear about his desire to receive more playing time than he did following an August trade to Houston, where Maldonado remained the starter behind the plate even after Vazquez was accquired. This could leave the Astros pursuing cheaper options behind the plate, such as Tucker Barnhart, to whom they were recently connected. It’s also possible the Astros could dive into the trade market, where each of Sean Murphy, Danny Jansen, Alejandro Kirk, and Gabriel Moreno have been discussed in trade scenarios by their respective teams. The Astros have already been connected to Murphy in recent days, though the acquisition cost could be exorbitant for a division rival. Whether the Astros pursue a lower-tier free agent or a trade for a younger catcher, they won’t be spending anything close to the $87.5MM guarantee Contreras landed with the Cardinals. Given that, it’s possible the Astros could reallocate any money they had set aside for Contreras to other parts of the roster, whether that means signing a pitcher after reigning AL Cy Young winner Justin Verlander departed for the Mets, or bolstering their outfield corps with an outfielder like Brandon Nimmo or Andrew Benintendi, as they have been rumored to have interest in doing.
3. MLBTR Chat with Anthony Franco today at 1pm CT
After the whirlwind of the Winter Meetings, do you have any burning questions about your favorite team’s offseason? If so, tune in at 1pm CT for a live chat MLBTR’s Anthony Franco, where he will be taking questions from readers. With so much having happened in the past few days and a few of the biggest free agents on the market yet to sign, there’s plenty to talk about! You can submit a question in advance, and use that same link to check back and participate live.
Rocker49
Not sure why the Astros need a catcher, this author is clueless. They have Maldy who Dusty likes to play everyday. They have Korey Lee and Yainer Diaz who are their 2 best prospects and are big league ready. So they have a vet and 2 stud rookies.
Philly A's
He’s 35 years old, batted .189 and is a career .209. Even with Houston winning the World Series, why not try and upgrade the one weakness they have?
Rocker49
because if you ever watch the Astros Dusty will not play anyone over Maldy, and I mean anyone!!! They traded for Vazquez and Dusty wouldn’t play him. That’s why signing someone is pointless until Maldy is gone. But you are not aware of the situation.
riffraff
Rocker – I didn’t watch any Astros games…but I looked at baseball reference and saw he caught 30 games for the astros…was traded to them on 8/2 when they had played 105 games. He caught 30 of 57 remaining games. That doesn’t sound like someone who didn’t play.
Am I missing something?
Matt_Angel_Bronco_Laker
riffraff, I love when people do their homework.
Rsox
@Rocker49
This. And it’s probably one of the reasons they didn’t sign Contreras as he probably didn’t want to be part of a 50/50, or more likely the lesser end of a 60/40 split.
Astros can sign Jorge Alfaro. They get the offensive Catcher that can DH some and play some LF to pair with the defensive Catcher in Maldonado who is going to start the majority of the games regardless of who the backup is
OrangeCrushCity
I don’t doubt your research riffraff but, I didn’t miss many Astros games and Vasquez definitely didn’t start at the clip you’re suggesting. I would guess he started something like 25 to 30% of the time. It wasn’t uncommon for him to pinch hit for Maldy late in games then finish out behind the plate. Maybe that’s where the playing time you’re suggesting is coming from.
thickiedon
Rocker, I don’t think you’re aware of the situation. From a consistent viewer’s perspective, Dusty wasn’t impressed with Lee or Diaz. Lee wasn’t even called up in September.
JoeBrady
I would guess he started something like 25 to 30% of the time.
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He definitely started 24 games. The denominator could be either 57 or 58, depending on the timing. But using 57.5, that means he started 41.7% of the games.
But I doubt that is the correct barometer. He probably started more often to rest Maldonado. In the playoffs, when it counted, Vazquez only started 3 of Houston’s 13 games, which is 23% of the games.
IMO, Maldo was definitely considered the starter,
riffraff
It’s highly possible – I went by baseballreference – showed he played as a catcher in 30 games but no reference as to when he started or just caught 1 inning ( which is why i asked if i missed something lol). Still doesn’t support Rockers theory that he never played – he also had a handful of games at DH – looks like he either started or appeared in a vast majority of the games he was available to play in.
OrangeCrushCity
That number seems surprisingly high to me. I recall being really frustrated that Dusty wouldn’t play Vasquez more, but I’ll take your word for it. I agree that Maldonado was definitely considered the starter. I think they’re going to have a very hard time convincing an established catcher to come to Houston to play behind Maldy unless he’s an older guy on his way out like Castro was. That said – I wouldn’t mind it at all if they brought Vasquez back as the primary with Maldy taking a back up role. I didn’t see a great deal of difference between them defensively but Vasquez was clearly a better hitter.
superunclea
I had Vazquez in fantasy and his AB nosedived after the trade.
Surly_03
He was IN 30 games at catcher.
He played 226.2 INN at catcher.
30 games X 9 INN = 270 INN
226.2 INN / 9 = 25.13 GAMES PLAYED (Regular Season)
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I think Baker figures their pitchers do well with Maldy so he has enough production elsewhere in lineup.
Dustyslambchops23
Astros are in win now mode, tried to trade for Contreras at the deadline and then traded for Vasquez. So clearly they aren’t content with their current situation
Not sure you have enough background or sense to be calling Nick clueless
vtadave
He doesn’t. Maldonado and Lee can’t hit. Diaz has had some upper minors success, but pretty sure the Astros are in win-now mode.
JockStrap
“So they have a vet and 2 stud rookies.”
None of these players have proven themselves at the MLB level to earn the nod as “full-time”.
Do what the author does before they write an article……RESEARCH!!!
Rocker49
Sounds about right, my jock strap might have equally dumb opinions as you. You have to be kidding right???? So no player can ever be called up from AAA to MLB? They are both ready and their stats/age/profiles back that up so it’s time to make the jump. They played Korey Lee last season and he passed with flying colors if you watched him play, but you are a jock strap so I doubt you watched that.
Philly A's
Lee passed with flying colors? 25 ab, 1 walk and a .160 batting average? I think we know who is clueless.
JockStrap
BINGO!!!
OrangeCrushCity
Korey Lee definitely didn’t “pass with flying colors”. He was terrible both offensively and defensively when he was called up last year. He was nowhere near ready. That’s why they traded for Vasquez. He may have improved since then, but pretending he’s a proven big league catcher is just wrong. He’s a AAA guy that didn’t make it with his first call up. Continuing with Maldonado is fine provided they have a capable back up. Counting on either of their farm catchers to be that guy is a gamble.
giantsphan12
@Rocker, guess you woke up o the wrong side of the bed today. What an unpleasant little human you are, criticizing everyone, calling people names. Have you ever heard of sharing and comparing opinions? Sheesshh!
User 899214610
… that’s John Rocker
CKinSTL
Houston had Maldonado last year and still went out and got Vazquez. Why do you think it is far-fetched they’d do it again?
Rocker49
and never played him lol smart guy
Sid Bream Speed Demon
He caught 30 out of the 57 games he played for Houston. Why aren’t you understanding that?
vtadave
Yeah I mean other than playing in 35 of a possible 57 games, sure, they never played him.
CKinSTL
@Rocker ha.. why can’t you just have a conversation? Share your opinions and insight.. that’s what this sauce is for. Bit why do you insult someone else in every single post?
Manfred’s playing with the balls
This rocker49 guy is a joke, don’t take his opinion seriously
willyb
I don’t often pay attention to who it is behind comments… so I really don’t know the personalities of the people who post here… I’m assuming like lots of message boards it’s typically some of the same people posting regularly… so I have no preconceived opinion about anyone here… but I will say this guy Rocker is coming off pretty poorly… a jerk to be exact. I know I’d never be able to look in the mirror if I were him… wow
JoeBrady
He caught 30 out of the 57 games he played for Houston. Why aren’t you understanding that?
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He started in only 23 of the 57 games. More importantly, he only started 3 of 13 playoff games. When the games counted, there is no doubt that he was the backup.
Big whiffa
Houston blew it not signing Contreras! Contreras and Rodon and they are massive favorites to win the World Series next year. Contreras also seems to be the very best value on the market so far so it’s wild that Houston didn’t pounce on him. Houston blew it or there’s a conspiracy in mlb to keep teams from becoming too dominant.
Rocker is a homer. Cut the guy some slack – he’s leading w his heart.
❤️ MuteButton
Calling the author of this article “clueless”, was a bit harsh, but I do basically agree with your take that the Astros don’t “need” a catcher. One with more offensive abilities would be nice though. I would absolutely love to see Christian Vázquez be our main guy with Maldonado catching a couple days a week
JockStrap
“but I do basically agree with your take that the Astros don’t “need” a catcher. One with more offensive abilities would be nice though. I would absolutely love to see Christian Vázquez be our main guy with”
If they don’t “need” a catcher, then I’m confused to why you would love to have Christian Vazquez! That would be adding another catcher.
❤️ MuteButton
It’s simple really, Christian Vasquez is solid offensively, defensively, great with a pitching staff, and frankly an upgrade to anybody on the current roster. Having said that, the current group we have is serviceable.
JockStrap
I agree!! Christian will provide a little more than this current group. Having him will also help the guys coming up.
thickiedon
Yes, the Astros do “need” a backup catcher such as Perez, Barnhart or Alfaro
❤️ MuteButton
Need? They won the World Series without any of those guys so…
OrangeCrushCity
Mute Button – They also lost, or at least appear to be losing, Vasquez and Castro so they definitely need another catcher. They can roll the dice with one of the AAA guys or they can go get someone. I’d prefer the latter.
jvent
Hey Houston if you need a Catcher the Mets have McCann for you and we’ll pay part of his contract too lol
❤️ MuteButton
Yeah, no
Mr_KLC
With the way contracts have been going lately, the Astros might have to go with cheaper options or the trade market since they normally don’t go long term on them. Barnhart and Brantley, if his health is good, would probably be realistic options at this point. Probably resign Yuli as a utility guy since Diaz is now gone.
ohyeadam
You had me until yuli for utility. He hasn’t played anywhere other than first in a couple years
Mr_KLC
I believe he played some 2nd base in 2021. He was originally a 3rd baseman so that’s why I brought him up.
adkuchan
Was easier to hide poor defensive infielders by utilizing the shift. Those days are over.
❤️ MuteButton
I don’t think Yuli is coming back as a utility player. It seems to me like David Hensley is going to fill that role with Mauricio Dubon.
Tucker Barnhart probably isn’t as good as our current back ups (Kory Lee & Yanier Diaz). Plus he’s more expensive, so pass.
I am a big fan of Michael Brantley and what he brings to the club. If possible they could wait till spring to decide what to do about left-field when more is known about his health.
WSnotAstros2017
They do need a catcher. Korey and Yadier are not our answer. Maldy just has the upcoming season and he has no offense. I can see why Contreras did not come to Houston. Probably Crane only gonna give one year contract. But yes Houston needs a catcher and outfield help both. Brantley is probably not going to be great for outfield. Get Benitendi or Conforto. Catching see on Murphy or one of Torontos. Maldy can be backup as Verlander is gone and he mainly caught him and Framber going down stretch.
Rocker49
that take couldn’t be more clueless. Korey and Yainer not the answer, are you joking??? Those guys are 100% ready and actually hit the ball!
vtadave
Lee “hit the ball” to the tune of ;.237/.304/.472 with a 28.1% K% the past two years in AAA. I guess you have a low bar.
Cleon Jones
Sanchez would work in Houston.
tstats
That’s a really good point, “offensive” backup to Maldy and could even pop in the DH spot from time to time. Easily could put the ball over the Crawford boxes
Thomas E Snyder
As long as he is healthy, Maldonado will catch the majority of games for Houston in 2023. After that is anybody’s guess. Any catcher brought in from the outside will be a backup catcher in 2023. That’s why neither Contreras nor Vasquez signed with Houston. The Astros best bet is to go with Lee and/or Diaz as the backup catcher in 2023. They can sign a low-cost veteran catcher to put at AAA to be ready if Maldy goes on the IL. Anyone who thinks a healthy Maldonado will be moved to a backup role in 2023 does not know the Astros management.
Astrosfn1979
This.
What the Astros DON’T want is 2 rookies with less than 70 combined MLB innings caught as the catchers if something happens to Maldenado.
They view catcher as an extension of the coaching staff more than a player. Intangibles like pitch calling and keeping the pitcher on track psychologically are more important than defense which is more important than offense.
They have hopes for Lee but we’re not happy with the results of his MLB audition last year. He was better in AAA after being sent down.
Diaz is a gifted hitter who does not want to catch. He wants to hit and play DH/1B. He does not put in the work required, eventhough he is capable. He does stuff like refusing to throw runners out stealing. He is trying to force the Astros to move him. Unfortunately he is a good enough hitter that it is working.
The Astros may use Lee as the backup in hopes he is ready for 2024 but there will be veteran ready to step in for 2023 if Maldy gets hurt.
Wagner>Cobb
Seems to me like someone who can regularly factor into the DH equation would make sense. Maybe Zunino offers enough pop there. I heard the plan was for Alvarez to be the primary LF, so there should be some ab’s at the DH spot to be had unless they sign Brantley to fill that role entirely…but even then, he’s injury prone.
Blue Dude
Correa to the Giants and Swan to the Dodgers
junior25
Correa Giants/Twins
Swanson Braves/Cubs
Balk
If the Giants lose Correa to the Twins or anyone else, this will end as a disaster for the Giants and I’m sure some FO changes will be made. The Giants need to sign 2 of the last 4 top free agents imo to save face. Rodon, Correa, and another outfielder
tedtheodorelogan
Absolutely. Correa, Rodon, and Nimmo or I’m burning down the crab sandwich stand.
foppert
Nah. Fans are going to fan. They will put on the concerned, sympathetic face and just get on with it.
Hoping for Rodon is a recipe for disappointment imo. Zaidi has told us what level of pitcher they are looking at. Ignore it at your peril.
Redwolves3
At this point Zaidi needs to do everything he can to save face with Giants fans. Zaidi’s credibility has gone out the window.
Zaidi needs to sign Correa, Senga, Taylor Rogers, Nimmo (possibly Conforto), and re-sign Rodon to have any chance of saving face with Giants fans.
Zaidi should also try to sign Bassitt and Manea to further bolster the rotation.
Correa needs to tell Zaidi that he would be willing to play another position to allow Crawford to finish his career at SS.
Samuel
Redwolves3;
No offense, but little – if any of that – is going to happen.
The owner needs to find a POBO that can set up an organization that can acquire young players, then coach them up and develop them. Lot’s of young controlled players.
Sustainable contending teams aren’t built in free agency.
Mr. Zaidi and his staff seem to like to find available players and use analytics to make them part-time utility type players that play when the numbers show they might do well that day.
foppert
Samuel.
Did they not hire Putilla for that very reason. Are you not suggesting something that has already been recognised publicly by ownership and actioned ?
Wagner>Cobb
Yeah, I seriously doubt they get Rodon. I think they get Correa, Nimmo, and maybe a lesser rotation option from the level of Eovaldi, Bassitt, Manaea, Syndergaard, Stripling, Wacha.
And they still won’t make the playoffs.
Balk
Foppert…I do agree fans are going to fan, but for San Francisco, they are hemorrhaging fan attendance, dropping total sales for awhile now.
foppert
I think they are aware, Balk.
I digest quite a bit of Giants info. How anyone taking the time to do that,
can not recognise a FO working its butt off is beyond me. The issue with fans is, if it isn’t being done the way they would like it to be done, nothing is happening. It’s f@cked up.
The lack of development in the farm is a problem. Johnson recognised it and stated it publicly after the season. A couple of weeks later a big development guy from the Astros is on board.
Judge was crushing. I had been talking myself into him being a Giant for over a year. Do I have a right to be pissed at that outcome. No. Every bit of info available suggests they went above and beyond in that recruitment attempt. What more can I ask for ? Judge gets to make the call.
Anyhow, the burn is fading and I’ve set myself at Nimmo, Correa and a
Mid level pitcher or two.
Balk
Foppert…I agree, and no doubt they are aware, and to be honest I had Judge returning to the yanks and always felt it was going to be tough to pry him away. The front did do all they could there. All I am saying is if they don’t lock up two of the top four FA, this is not going to be a successful offseason, and fans will continue to not show.
foppert
All good, Balk. Hope is better than hate. Let’s see what happens.
EastCoastGiant
Rodon wants to play for a contender.
Astrosfn1979
I don’t see Correa staying in Minn.
He was using them as a bridge to get to the offseason because he didn’t have chair when the music stopped last off season.
Then he fired his agent
If they offer 9+ years @$32.5+ he will stay but he has his eyes on Seager’s 10 yr/$325. He may take a year less because he had a high AAV season last year but I don’t see him doing less than 9/$290.
And after the Giants missed out on Judge I expect him to get it.
I bet he gets it.
foppert
Got to pay the Dior premium. I’ll go 10/350
figjam
If you buy crab sandwiches at Oracle Park, you’ve already paid for Correa, Nimmo and Senga! 😉
Wagner>Cobb
I bet you he wants 12 years to go higher than Turner and Bogaerts. Probably wants the highest AAV of all SS too.
Sunday Lasagna
Correa Giants
Swanson Cubs
Adames traded to LA
Wagner>Cobb
Adames will be tough to pry from the Brewers though. They still want to compete this year. Will take a really good offer from LA.
CCCTL
Correa is going to want about what Turner/Bogaerts got, and Farhan will end up saying something about getting equal value at a lower price point …
baseballpun
Correa is going to want to beat Turner.
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Pun, I think he’ll want to beat 99 as well.
mj-2
Swanson to the Red Sox now guaranteed
Rsox
I feel like you may be right. Bloom may be the most hated man in Boston right now and may need to pull the old Roger Dorn
“I got you an Outfielder. He used to play for the Giants”
“Franklin?”
“Not those Giants”
Type of a move to try to soothe the fan base that literally wants his blood right now
kenly0
Correa – Giants
Swanson- Cubs
WSnotAstros2017
Barnhart can go to Pirates. Brantley will be lucky if can play like he did. Yuli not sure could be back up or bench material. Dubon, Meyers, Chas can fight for outfield or train Hensley for outfield
Central Valley
The Giants will finish behind the Diamondbacks next year. The non producing farm system is killing them.
Balk
Central, I have hope for the farm and development. If after this year we don’t see any jumps in the farm, I’ll agree
Big whiffa
I agree CV. Giants overachieved in 21. A remarkable accomplishment over a whole season, but the team isn’t very good and their best player is leaving.
I also agree on the farm for the most part. I was a big ramos believer out the gate, but it’s clear his peak value was prior to going into his first full season. Luciano is ALL hype ! One of the most over rated players I’ve seen in milb in quite a while. He’s a fringe top 100 prospect in the top 20 while never playing a full season and being of average age in A ball.
Harrison is the real deal though. He’d be the #2 starter on their current roster if he can break the big league club.
Cardinalsfan4ever
Any chance the Cardinals can work a trade for Reynolds with the Pirates? Also what pitchers are we targeting?
TheMan 3
Cherington is on record of wanting a major league ready outfielder and 2 pitchers to trade Reynolds
I doubt the Cards can do this
Rsox
Burleson, Liberatore, Thompson, Graceffo, McGreevy, Hence, Paniagua. I think the Cardinals could get it done
Big whiffa
The cardinals can go get any player they want available or not if they chose too. Jordan Walker is the chip that would allow them to acquire whoever they please as he’s the top prospect in all baseball.
Wagner>Cobb
I doubt it.
They are probably done aside from a couple of minor bullpen additions.
If they were to add a pitcher, they would probably swing a trade for Pablo Lopez. Seems unlikely though.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Dude, this isn’t the chat and they don’t pull questions from here, if that is what you were looking for.
Wagner>Cobb
Maybe he’s asking for the opinion of other people in here?
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Professional sports continue to leave the average fan behind. The cost to attend a game is outrageous and not much is available if I don’t have overpriced cable or a subscription service.
FrankEttingChiSox
Only at the highest level. Many college baseball games are free. Minor league games are still very cheap. I’ve been watching some Winter League games free on YouTube and seems still nobody going to those either. Ponce Leones tickets were $5. Carolina Gigantes free last time I went.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Wait for the sales on MLB.tv and you can get most non-local games for 99 a year. Otherwise, I agree.
ohyeadam
Sure manny, but most of what I want to watch are the local games. Why would I pay a hundred bucks to watch everything but my squad or anyone within a 6 hour drive?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Ohyeadam
Then it does not work for you. I do not live near my favorite team, so it works great for me.
JoeBrady
The cost to attend a game is outrageous
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Yankee-Phillies @ YS, on 4/5, section 411, row 1, $17 each.
Is that really outrageous?
Big whiffa
The design is to keep you at home watching vs going to games
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Playoff ticket for my local DIII football team was $10 and the place was packed on Minnesota “frozen tundra” day.. Better value to spend my money locally
phantomofdb
Correa will go to Red Sox
Take my expert word for it, I’m 0 for the entire free agent prediction contest so far.
G.M. Ima Scapegoat
It’s probably the right baseball move, especially considering Devers has no reason to accept any type of low ball offer… I mean extension offer from the Sox.
larsoeri
Stupid money being spent… Perhaps I’m just arriving at the fuddy-duddy stage in my life and what I’m saying has always been said by older generations, but MLB should be careful with the money they are throwing around right now. IMO, true baseball fans are aging out; in the age of video games and YouTube and instant gratification, kids for the most part don’t appreciate the sport anymore. My 13-year-old son has almost no interest in MLB beyond maybe playing MLB The Show… The chances of him spending any money on MLB as an adult are almost zero.
Also, as a 47-year-old baseball (Twins) fan myself, I find myself less and less interested in the sport. Games used to be appointment TV for me; after years and years of the same thing I find it difficult to be excited anymore; perhaps my team’s 0-18 run in playoffs has something do with it, but is what it is… Beyond one game in-person a year and perhaps buying MLB The Show for my son, I am not spending money on the product much anymore.
At this point in my life, I find more joy watching college baseball on ESPN+ in the spring, much more competitive and pure.
G.M. Ima Scapegoat
I think MLB is purposely shifting away from the “my team” mentality on purpose due to the success NFL has seen with viewership and fantasy. Fans by nature are fickle and most don’t pay attention unless the team is winning so for them I think this the transition to try and attract an audience that just enjoys the sport as main stream gambling takes off, which will have in game wagers.
I’m a lifelong Red Sox fan, and I have the same issues. I can’t get my 10 year old interested in the sport, and when I was his age I spent every dime I had on baseball card, knew every time Pedro pitching, mimicked nomar in the batters box etc. Now, particularly with this ownership group, it seems like I’m indulging a business rather than a entertaining product. Most teams are just over leveraging nostalgia hoping it will carry them until gambling is going to take off.
Samuel
G.M. Ima Scapegoat;
Most people under 40 that follow any baseball know next to nothing about the sport. Most don’t/didn’t play it other than on a computer. Most public parks baseball fields are empty during the summer, and have been for decades. Many have been grassed over. Every year MLB teams have a higher percentage of foreign players on their rosters….that grew up playing baseball sunup to sundown in the summer.
Back in MLB’s heyday baseball was known as “the thinking mans sport” – because games are won by a series of subtle divisions by the players. What we have today with analytics are the 3 outcomes….and it’s celebrated.
Some teams like the Orioles and Guardians are bucking that trend – bunting, playing strong D, stealing bases and taking extra bases, making contact, etc. But I agree with you – younger people look at that and say “So What”. I see it on here with the posts. Arguing over this or that statistic – not understanding what a cut off man does, why he’s important, and who cares?
Last night shocked me.
I’ve talked to a lot of younger people in my family as well as a lot of college students when I was auditing classes at a college for a few years. You are correct – most find the sport boring. Surprisingly, it’s many of the women that enjoy the sport and understand it.
The foreign players have kept MLB afloat. Gambling is responsible for the money in the sport. Fans don’t have to know a thing about the sport to bet on it.
Take care.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I did a good job at work and received a 2.5% pay increase despite inflation running higher than that. Good thing my mortgage is 2.125%.
Baseball teams have increased hundreds of millions in value due to demand exceeding supply, add in inflation, and we are seeing silly money!
JoeBrady
LOL! 2.125%?
I got mine at 2.75% and it looks like a steal. 2.125% doesn’t seem like it even covers the risk premium.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
It is a 15 year fixed rate loan closed the refinancing in January 2021 and did have to pay a full point.
JoeBrady
And therein lies the difference.. I took a 20 about 5 years ago, with I think less than a point.
But just for funnsies, my first mortgage many years ago was an ARM. The fixed rates at the time were 6.875%. I got a 3-year fixed ARM at 3.95, and the mortgage was based on the 11th district COFI + 2.9%. That index declined every year until I stopped following it.
When I got my last mortgage, I asked the broker if they had anything like, and she literally laughed at loud. She said ‘no, we don’t do that any more. The banks were insane back then.
Cleon Jones
Well done!
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Attaboy Manny. I see you locked in that good 15yr rate a year ago!
Chadillac15
Time to play fantasy GM again. If I’m the diamondbacks this is what I do.
1) Sign Swanson and keep him this time. Nick Ahmed is a great utility guy to have on the bench but he is not the SS of the future. Even with Lawler waiting in the minors Swanson helps the dbacks now.
2) trade for Sean Murphy. Give up McCarthy and some of our pitching depth from the minors.
3) trade Carson Kelly to the ‘stros.
4) risky move here – trade ketel marte to the marlins for a top of the rotation pitcher. He has a great salary the marlins would cover and his stock is still very high where he could bring back someone like lopez.
Wagner>Cobb
I would be very impressed to see them get so aggressive. However, I think they need to keep Marte. I don’t think he nets them a TOR pitcher with his contract and coming off a bad year. He needs to be a core piece of the lineup.
1. Carroll LF
2. Swanson SS
3. Marte 2B
4. Walker 1B
5. Varsho CF
That’s a pretty solid 1-5. Outside chance at a wild card spot if their young pitchers progress.
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What if the Marlins offered to trade Pablo Lopez, Avisail Garcia, and Max Meyer (injured), to the Padres for Fernando Tatis, Jr. who says no?
ARC 2
Padres says NO
MLB Top 100 Commenter
That is what I would have thought yesterday too. I still believe Tatis will be top ten in MVP votes more than half of the next half dozen years barring more injuries or more stupidity. But with the high payroll and need for pitching, I think either a trade of Tatis is being considered or that maybe Machado will not be extended.
ARC 2
Padres still could trade tatis jr but they would want more than Lopez and a injured prospect. They would want Perez and Elder instead of Meyers
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Tatis for Lopez, Eury Perez, Avisail and Eder. I would do that as Marlins. Would only consider it as Padres if I have a Machado extension ready. Just thinking out loud, I really think Tatis will be a 40 home run guy year after year if he can avoid the stupidity.
TheGreatBaseballMind
Padres say no.
JoeBrady
Padres. Tatis might a a PITA, but I still like the contract, especially considering what Bogaerts is getting. And Garcia has substantial negative value.
bobsugar84
If Meyers wasn’t hurt they might consider it. Tatis has rubbed a few in the organization the wrong way and he k’s a ton. I agree though, still not enough for the Pads to go through with it.
solaris602
The Marlins would never take on that contract.
bwmiller
Astros are going to miss Verlander, AL West is going to be more competitive this season
Philly A's
I agree, other than the a’s every team improved to be closer to Houston. I think it will be Houston- Rangers-Mariners – Angles and way down the list the A’s.
Samuel
When they zig…..the smart ones zag.
I believe that MLB people are in shock over what happened last night. Most of the FA signings were a bit high, but it is what it is. But the Bogaerts signing….
Make fun of MLBTR’s projection of Bogaerts upcoming salary, but they were in line with a few other sites and their past record has been in the ballpark on signings.
I do believe that more and more owners / FO’s are going to start realizing that what the smart small market teams do – Rays, Brewers, Guardians, Orioles, etc. is the way to go. The Astros aren’t a small market team, but they’ve been in contention for 8 years in a row partially by drawing a line about salaries.
Teams have to sign and develop their own players – especially pitchers. Baseball isn’t a one man game. Everyone on a 26 man
roster participates. Teams that spend 20-35% of their budget on
2-3 players will not win anything.
riffraff
Samuel – Altuve and Verlander made up 29% of Astros payroll last year…just saying
Samuel
Got me there.
Then again, Verlander didn’t come back this year.
I will add that when Altuve and Bregman start to fade there may
well be a problem.
riffraff
Samuel – you lost me at Verlander didn’t come back this year until I figured out I’m going calendar year and you are most likely referring to MLB year ( I was going to say he won the cy young this year of course he came back). I agree with your basic theory about putting too much of budget into 2-3 players but I think your threshholds may be off. Braves had 30% to 2 player when they won and dodgers were over 20% as well. I think its safer to go with ” a third” – haven’t checked previous years though
Samuel
riffraff;
Look up the 80/20 rule. It applies to most things in life.
I go with the percentages. There will always be outliers.
riffraff
2 of the last 10 world series winners had a roster where the top 2 players made up 20% or less of the total payroll. 2013 Redsox ( 19%) and 2015 KC (20%). Is that the 80/20 rule you were talking about? I will give you that your beloved Cleveland team went to the 2016 ws with their top two making up 15%. TB in 2020 – 28% and the Astros? the team you have repeatedly stated is one of the best run in the league? 4 appearances – each year top two took up between 26% and 34%. How can that be an outlier? Again – I think you are correct with your theory but off with the threshold… from quick glance 30% seems to be where the cutoff is not 20%
Angels & NL West
Given platoons, defensive specialists, bullpen usage, etc, I agree that everyone on the 26-man roster participates. I would take it a step further and say, due to injuries and under performance, that a deep 40-man roster is needed to navigate a 162 game season. And the majority of players 27-40 need to have been drafted and developed internally.
Samuel
Angels & NL West;
This may be the last time I write this…..
MLB is not football, basketball or hockey. It doesn’t have free substitution (once a player is out of the game he can’t come back in). Can’t get the ball or the puck more often to your best offensive players. Can’t put the defense on the other teams best scorer.
A starting pitcher pitches once every 5 games – around 175 innings a year. A back-end reliver pitches 60-75 innings a year. A team pitches around 1,400 innings a year. A batter hits once every 9 guys. A defender may not get a ball hit to him in a game. He may get many hit to him. He may be in a lot of critical plays. He may not be involved in any.
As the saying goes about a bad fielder: “The ball will find him”.
Baseball is a unique team sport. More so than the others. It favors players that are generalists. The analytic guys showed up and made it into primarily a game of specialists – controlled by algorithms that the manger is supposed to carry out. Remember the song: ‘Feel Like A Number’ by Bob Seger? Unfortunately that’s what the sport of baseball has tuned into. Even salaries are determined by that. (Note that there is no way to statistically evaluate the impact of a Catcher.)
It’s like listening to a song developed by computer software.
strat272
Why are the Angels so bad ♂️
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New owner on the way!
stroh
Stros will probably sign someone like Barnhart and wait for Lee or Diaz to develop further. I think they’ve shifted their main focus to acquiring another starting outfielder, someone who can play left.