As the offseason continues to chug along, here are three things to keep an eye on today:
1. With Correa on board, what’s next for San Francisco?
The Giants have agreed to terms with star shortstop Carlos Correa on a 13-year, $350MM contract, which will install Correa as the face of the Giants franchise through his 40th birthday. Correa adds immediate impact to a team that desperately needs it following the retirement of Buster Posey last year. With that being said, the Giants will need to do more if they want to return to the postseason in 2023. While the Giants are adding a likely 5-win player in Correa, they also appear unlikely to re-sign Carlos Rodon at this point, who produced 6.2 fWAR for them last season. The additions of Sean Manaea and Ross Stripling should help offset that loss, and Mitch Haniger should bolster their outfield production. Still, there’s plenty left for San Francisco to do this offseason if they want to compete with the Dodgers and Padres in the NL West. While an outfield unit of Haniger, Mike Yastrzemski, Austin Slater and LaMonte Wade Jr. (plus likely designated hitter Joc Pederson) is solid, the Giants are nonetheless reportedly looking to add another outfielder. The free agent market for outfielders has begun to thin out, but there are still some interesting players available, including Michael Brantley, Michael Conforto, Joey Gallo and Jurickson Profar. Additionally, the trade market has plenty of options, with the likes of Bryan Reynolds, Max Kepler, and Daulton Varsho drawing interest so far this offseason. Aside from the outfield, San Francisco is known to be interested in a late-inning bullpen arm to pair with incumbent closer Camilo Doval. While the Giants came up short in their pursuit of Kenley Jansen, other options remain on the market, such as Adam Ottavino, Andrew Chafin, and Taylor Rogers, twin brother of Giants reliever Tyler Rogers.
2. Do the Cubs have more moves on the horizon?
Entering the offseason, there were high expectations for the Cubs, who performed surprisingly well in the second half of 2022 and were frequently speculated upon as a landing spot for a star shortstop. Flash forward to today, though, and the offseason hasn’t gone as many fans would have hoped. Correa, Trea Turner, and Xander Bogaerts are all off the market along with potential fits at other positions, such as Christian Vazquez, Sean Murphy, and Kodai Senga. This offseason hasn’t been entirely quiet, as the club has added both outfielder Cody Bellinger and starter Jameson Taillon. While both are sensible additions to a roster with plenty of holes, it’s an open question whether these moves can even make up for the production lost by franchise catcher Willson Contreras moving on to sign with the division-rival Cardinals, much less set the Cubs up to attempt to return to the postseason. Dansby Swanson is still on the market, and the Cubs do appear to be a legitimate candidate to sign him, but he should have multiple suitors, including the Twins, who recently lost Correa. Owner Tom Ricketts pledged in August to be “very active in free agency” this offseason — comments that generally echoed his Oct. 2021 statement to fans, wherein he declared: “We commit to fielding a competitive team reflective of your unrivaled support.” If Taillon ends up as the Cubs’ most notable addition, that doesn’t necessarily line up with the expectations created by Ricketts himself in those public-facing comments.
3. MLBTR Chat Today
Yesterday, MLBTR’s Anthony Franco fielded questions during a live chat (transcript here). If there’s still unanswered questions about this offseason or the direction of your favorite team burning in your mind, you’re in luck, as MLBTR’s Steve Adams will be hosting another chat today at 1pm CT. You can submit a question in advance, and you can use the same link to check back in this afternoon and participate live once the chat begins.
gfan
Luciano, Ramos, Gonzales and Hjelle for Bryan Reynolds.
Balk
No, not Luciano…we can’t get hosed twice for the same player.
FullMontilla
The Pirates will demand Harrison in a deal for Reynolds, which I have a hard time seeing the Giants agreeing to. As much as I like Reynolds, I agree – don’t get hosed twice
TheMan 3
I read from a very reliable source that the Pirates won’t trade Reynolds at all, after his next arbitration, then sign him to a long term contract
gfan
Santander would be a good target too.
Jean Matrac
Reynolds requested a trade. Have many players done that and then signed an extension? I’m literally asking, since I don’t know.
claude raymond
Deebo haha
27champyankees
THAT for Reynolds? None of those guys are blue chip prospects.
You’d be lucky to get a bucket of BP balls for that
vtadave
Um Luciano was ranked #17 in the league by BA.
D-Lew
Get real I wouldn’t trade Luciano alone for him.
Jean Matrac
What a clueless post from one of the Yankee fans with a low baseball IQ. Luciano has a FV of 55, That’s better than every Yankee prospect other than Volpe. Most Yankee fans correctly think Peraza and Dominquez are blue-chip, but Luciano has a higher FV than both.
claude raymond
Hey tad, you had Correa as the guy to get. I liked Swanson cuz he’d cost less and they could spend more on others but at $27 per for Correa, he’s just a little more AAV than what Swanson will get. So I’m very happy we got that deal for correa.
Jean Matrac
Hey Claude, Yeah I admit that Correa made the difference between a disappointing offseason and one that I’m excited about. Swanson would have been somewhat of a disappointment, but I would have still had an overall positive response. He’s a good player, and there’s nothing wrong with signing good players.
claude raymond
yep, nothing wrong, especially at 27aav when a high of 35 was expected. Do you like Lareano or …..?
Jean Matrac
I was really high on Laureano when he first came up, but I’ve cooled on him a lot. Not much of bat, though for CF I think that’s less important than the D, but I don’t see him as a defensive improvement over Yaz or Slater.
Samuel
I like to go on the Orioles board where inevitably posters jump in
and write that the O’s need a SS.
Then under numerous teams articles posters jump in and are drooling over Bryan Reynolds. The answer to so many teams filling
a hole.
I use WAR as a benchmark, and prefer fWAR to bWAR.
In 2022 Reynolds had an fWAR of 2.9 with 614 PA’s – Jorge Mateo was at 2.8 with 533 PA’s. Watching both play it’s obvious that Mateo does things for his team that impact their staying in a game and winning it far, far more than Reynolds does his.
Narratives work well in discussions. Not so much in practice.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Reynolds had over 900 plate appearances?!?!?
Samuel
614 (it says)
D-Lew
Way too steep.
claude raymond
gfan, one issue with your list. With Correa signed, teams will know Luciano could be trade bait. And teams usually demand players that are “untouchable”. I just don’t see Luciano being untouchable now, I could be wrong. I would bet pirates would demand Harrison or Schmitt. But your list was good gfan, but I don’t think Giants are all that worried about losing players on your list. Ramos and Hjelle maybe replaced by Matos or Black. I still think laureano is the best target for gmen gfan.
drfitz702
Bring back Theo, Hoyer Sucks.
JockStrap
Try Bloom for a season….guarantee you will be crying for Hoyer back.
drfitz702
Fire Hoyer, shame on the Ricketts for fleecing Cubs fans.
Clepto_
Ah, “fleecing”. First world problems my friend. A large market team, large market payroll, large market rebuild cycle time complaining…
…real rich, my friend. Pun intended. Try being a fan of one of the lower 20 teams.
ChiSoxCity
What are you even saying?
Sideline Redwine
If you live in the First World…and have a First World problem…guess what, it’s a problem. No offense, but that is one of the dumbest sayings. Everything is relative.
Clepto_
…well said from a baseball “Have” fan. Thanks for proving my point.
drfitz702
Jed Hoyer is in over his head. Bring back Theo
JockStrap
Theo is a runner! Builds a franchise to win then darts off.
duhawk83
Major League baseball changed the rules regarding international signings which took one of Theo’s primary tools out of his bag. I suspect he saw what was coming for the Cubs and pulled chocks and flew off into the sunset.
ASapsFables
That still leaves 28 other teams as happy potential landing spots for Theo, no?
Clepto_
Wrong. Theo is a burner. And a smart one. He comes in, burns down a robust farm system for 1 or 2 year shot at glory, THEN bolts when the cabinet is bare. Smart man, if he can get away with it. And he has done it twice.
CJML
Hoyer certainly has not impressed this off season. Even if they get Dansby they need an impact bat and an ace. You had an opportunity to get both this off season. The hope an prayer Cody Bellinger returns to 2019 form doesn’t seem like much of a plan.
duhawk83
You are correct he totally misinterpreted the market and now is hoping and praying that he can sign Dansby Swanson (we think), however, I have to give him his due. Other than a really bad decision on Kyle Schwarber his decision to get rid of Baez / Bryant / Rizzo was correct. I am definitely an angry Cubs fan because of what has transpired, but, lets see what he does to improve this team with the rest of the over the hill gang sitting out there in Free Agency and if there are any trades with prospects he can make.
Astros2017&22Champs
Theo put you guys in that hole. He traded every top prospect on the farm for win now players and won a title. Getting the flag is awesome but he destroyed the future.
Samuel
Astros2017&22Champs;
Theo knows nothing about developing pitchers at the ML level. At least Hoyer is putting structures in place for that. The Cubs made nice progress there in 2022 with some of their pitchers. Pitching wins.
Teams the “win” the offseason seldom – if ever – win the real season.
duhawk83
The fact that the Astro’s won their second World Series in five years without the great Carlos Correa does give me hope that the assessment of Correa and the decision to not even offer a contract was likely the correct one.
You are correct that Theo could not draft / develop a pitcher.
BrettPhillipsFanClub
I agree. It’s almost like every team is trying to win or something. Almost like these front office people might have plans and be worth their salt.
bigjonliljon
Flags fly forever
Samuel
bigjonliljon;
Correct.
Tell that to the Cubs fans that come on here and complain 10 times a week. Have them look at their flag.
drasco036
Hoyer has done a nice job with his acquisitions however as soon as Click was let go, I would have went guns blazing for him.
Joe says...
I wouldn’t be so quick to say Click is an improvement. Notice he’s still unemployed. There’s got to be something to that.
Astros2017&22Champs
Click crying at the gm meetings and bad mouthing the owner wasn’t the wisest decision. Billionaires are a fraternity.
PL
Click being unemployed does not mean anything. No team is going to want to bring in someone new at the beginning of the offseason. If he doesn’t get a job next year that would be saying something.
brood550
Swanson will end up with the Twins.on a 6-7 year deal. The Cubs are deathly afraid of contracts over 4 years after the Heyward 8 year deal flopped at the end. No way they land Swanson.
drasco036
*signed Suzuki for FIVE years.
brood550
5 years 85 million for a 27 year old isn’t crazy. Granted they also owed a posting fee that pushes the total close to 100 million. But either way for a guy hitting >.300 and 26+ hrs a year in Japan isn’t too bad. I don’t see the Cubs taking on a contract over 20 million/year unless its 3 years or less at this point. Swanson is going to command more than they are willing to spend.
Cmurphy
I think they would go 6-7 years but glad they didn’t go for the 11-13 year contracts the other three signed.
brood550
By then the salary cap will be so high it won’t matter.
cubfanforever
Let’s not forget Hendrys’ 8 year signing of Soriano that Epstein/ Hoyer had to contend with.
Holy Cow!
They do have Suzuki on a 5 year deal, but I agree that the Heyward contract, which was really bad and could have been worse, is influencing their decisions not to go long.
I can also see them caving on Swanson, maybe even getting reasonable terms, and that turning into another Heyward-type contract.
duhawk83
Heyward was a total bust, but, if you have the money the Cubs have sometimes eating a bad decision is just the cost of doing business. Also, Soriano actual gave them some good offense in the first part of that contract.
BrettPhillipsFanClub
No one foresaw Heywards drop off with the bat.
duhawk83
And it happened in his late 20’s when a player is supposed to be entering his prime.
ohyeadam
Seeing as how the other SS all got 3 more years than we all thought along with Judge and Contreras getting an extra season or two I’d bet Dansby is looking at 8 years
ccovert5711
Us Cardinals fans went from being upset to happy about Heyward choosing the Cubs, in just a couple of years. What an albatross that contract turned into!
duhawk83
your welcome…
ASapsFables
@brood550
Ludicrous comment. Clearly the Ricketts ownership doesn’t have a mandate regarding contract length in the wake of the Jason Heyward contract that occurred 7 years ago which still didn’t prevent them from winning a World Series title that was 108 years in the making. They signed off on the 5 yrs/$85M for RF Seiya Suzuki last offseason and will continue to approve most any deal Jed Hoyer believes is an “intelligent” one.
brood550
All the Cubs are doing now is sign and trades. Giving guys a place to play and flipping them when they succeed for talent. The Cubs are effectively turning into the Rays with a worse farm system. When the Cubs win less than 74 this year will you still defend them? This rebuild has been going on for way to long for a team with a top 4 MLB valuation. You’ve got an investor that owns the team and no matter what the attendance at the ballpark is they’re still raking in more money every year with the Marquee network. where’s the financial incentive to invest?
God Help Us All
“Flopped at the end?” And the beginning, and the middle, and in between. Signed, a cub fan.
ChiSoxCity
“We commit to fielding a competitive team reflective of your unrivaled support.”
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!
CJML
The Sox are worst run organization in baseball.
JockStrap
I’m a sox fan & totally agree with you. Bloom will tell you he has a sense of direction however his actions showed differ.
Astros2017&22Champs
Chaim Bloom answers to John Henry. John Henry in my opinion seems like he no longer has a desire to win anymore.
CJML
Haha. I meant the white Sox who ended a 15 year rebuild with a .500 season in year they were supposed to be title contenders.
JockStrap
All GMs answer to owners however they do make their own decisions being in the role they are in. Like any business, I’m sure bloom is given a yearly budget and has to stick to that.
Saying Henry has no desire to win is not the case. Henry owns one of the most profitable franchises and if he doesn’t win then he loses money from ticket prices, concessions, etc.
Bloom was hired to provided a different direction of the organization but unfortunately it hasn’t worked.
ChiSoxCity
So the Cubs ditched all their core players and tanked for multiple seasons just to sign… drumroll please.. Dansby Swanson and a year of Cody Bellinger? And you’re ok with that? Seriously?
CJML
So the White Sox gutted the team for 10 years to build a contender only to squander with moronic free agent signings like, drumroll please……. Dallas Keuchel, Yasmani Grandal, Luery Garcia, no qualifying offer to Rodon. It’s laughable. They have one of the worst defenses in baseball, a blah hitting lineup, no depth and most importantly no money. Seriously?
Astros2017&22Champs
Well the Red Sox under Dave Dombrowski obliterated the entire MLB in ‘18 and he subsequently got fired. I believe his way of building teams is not financially suitable for a lot of owners. But John Henry? He owns the Sox, a soccer team, the Boston globe. The guy has more money than Davey Crockett. And he owns an organization in a city that wins championships like it’s their morning coffee. So I completely feel he no longer truly wants to win. He got his shiny new toy from the Rays and is hoping to win on the cheap. That’s not going to work in a sports obsessed town like Boston. Its why Click got axed in Houston. Jim Crane wants to win at all costs. He’s just not crazy rich like steve cohen.
Salvi
“Bloom Derangement Syndrome” — The word ‘Sox’ was found in a post. So a half dozen ‘Red Sox fans’ have to chime in with their hatred of Bloom.
duhawk83
With regards to “ditching the core”
Kris Bryant was so angry about the apparent misstreatment of him when the Cubs brought hinm up in May in 2015 instead of starting the season he had no intention of signing again with the Cubs for anything but a premium price. Too injured too oftern.
Javier Baez; that is a whole lot of swing and miss in that swing of his and guys whose game is predicated on quickness do not age well.
Anthony Rizzo you could make an argument that the Cubs should have locked him up until the end of his career, but, I don’t think he wanted to be part of a rebuild..
Am I okay with the lack of activity in the offseason for the Cubs so for; of course not. However, I do know that the Padres / Phillies are considered solid contenders and are close to winning a world series, the Cubs ain’t that so missing on Turner and Boegarts is not a surprise. As for Correa, would have liked to see him next year, but in 2031 not sure I would share that sentiment.
stan lee the manly
You can’t make that assertion when the Colorado Rockies are in the same sport. Rockies are the worst run org in any major sport.
highheat
Kind of; to the analytically inclined it looks like they’re just squandering money (because they are), but they still manage to drum up just enough interest to keep fans coming out to their nice ballpark and spending money on concessions.
A profit is a profit, whether it comes from Postseason shares or concessions.
Clepto_
LA Angels have entered the chat.
Astros2017&22Champs
The Giants shouldn’t be even thinking about the trade market for high end talent. Farhan Zaidi needs to continue building up that farm and supplement the major league roster. Im sure giants fans are frustrated after winning 3 World Series titles and then bottoming out but its their reality and was absolutely worth it. Correa has his warts but he is a natural leader and will make that team so much better. Pete Putila is one of the most brilliant executives in the sport. Shrewd hire by Farhan. All these teams are so desperate to be contenders today that they sacrifice their future and wonder what happened when they implode.
ARC 2
Problem with Giants their prospects are underwhelming. Better to stick with them than trading for sub par players. Luciano is their only big trading chip but do you trade him or switch him to 2B? Better to switch him to 2B then use him in a trade.
Samuel
ARC 2;
I agree, and was stunned that the Giants ultimately signed Correa (going into free agency I thought they would, then realized that FA’s were hesitant about walking into that situation).
I’ve liked Correa since he came up and think he’s the best SS in MLB…..when healthy. Then again, I saw him play with the Twins last year, and while he was very good, one player does not make a team. Top heavy teams don’t work – the quintessential one has been the Angels….they’re been fixing that for 2 years now.
The Giants need to get at least 7-10 quality ML players onto that roster – both pitchers and position players. Don’t have to be stars, but have to be solid, above-average major leaguers that can help the team win games. I don’t see a farm system that can do that for them, and no team corners the FA market. That leaves trades. Other teams FO’s are not completely stupid. If the Giants want something good, they’ll have to have something good to trade. Small market teams such as the Guardians and Brewers make smart trades, but they’ll pick up young players that they know need 2 or 3 years before they can produce at a high level. The Rays make a lot of smart trades that give instant results, but they turn over their roster constantly and have no problem dumping a productive player after a year or two.
I’m writing all that because the Zaidi FO may be full of bright people, but so far their big achievements have been to find utility-type position players and so-so pitchers, then build some of them up to be support players for a few years. They’re going to need a lot more than that.
foppert
Nice. I hope they hang onto what they have in the farm and give Putila time to go to work. I hear he is a big strength and conditioning guy, so looking forward to seeing where they are at in 12months time.
ARC 2
They should hang out to their prospects. I don’t see any trade they could do make them favorites over Padres or Dodgers. the best outcome for them is to play out the season until trade deadline and see if they can sneak into the wild card spot.
Moonlight Graham
Luciano is probably headed for the outfield, eventually. But if he sticks at short, it would probably be best to trade him. He would net a considerable return.
However, he’s not the Giants’ only big-ticket prospect. Kyle Harrison is light out on the mound.
And they actually have about 10 other prospects who are interesting. Matos had a bad season, but that doesn’t mean he’s a bust. Grant McCray, Vaun Brown, and Casey Schmitt all looking promising, as well.
The problem with the farm system is that Hunter Bishop and Patrick Bailey aren’t justifying their high draft positions, and Heliot Ramos has petered out.
ARC 2
Luciano should change positions. His defense is not up to SS standards. He does have a strong arm so there are better places on the field for him. Harrison should be off limits to a trade. He has Ace stuff if he stays healthy and only 21. If the Giants trade Harrison they will regret it and with so many sub par arms in the minors they can’t trade him.
Balk
I think this is a big year for the farm, a lot of step backs, that really didn’t surprise me due to losing a whole year of development with pandemic. If these players like Ramos, matos etc can bounce back they are a top 10 farm.
ARC 2
What happened to Ramos he was the star of the minors. I wonder if he can’t hit the breaking ball which is tough for some hitters.
Jean Matrac
Astros, Yeah I agree. If I were a Padres fan I’d have concerns that Preller might have bankrupted the Padres future when he traded 4 of their top 5 prospects for Soto. Don’t know if he did, will have to wait to see, but I see that as a huge gamble. The Dodgers are where they are because the have a deep, highly regarded farm. Not all prospects will develop, in fact most won’t, but a thin farm places the odds against finding the ones that do.
ChrisEnvy76
Hoyer and Ricketts should be ashamed of themselves. Two years ago it was “It’s not a rebuild its a retool” now “We will be very active in free agency”. Both lies from ownership and the front office. If they don’t do things to make this team VERY competitive, and I don’t mean just signing Swanson, they need to make trades, sign a catcher who is VERY good, a 3B (J. Turner maybe?), a DH perhaps, someone to mentor Mervis, and some relief pitchers. Otherwise, it’s time to start rooting for another team until this ownership is gone and they’ve committed to winning. It’s honestly disgusting to see what they’ve done to this franchise.
The Natural
Hey guess what. It’s December 15th.
ChrisEnvy76
The guy with a picture about not being patient is telling me to be patient. Got it.
C Yards Jeff
If the Giants would seek show level outfield help via the trade route, what would/could they offer in return? Ex in exchange for a Hays or Santander in Baltimore.
gfan
Maybe those in the first comment
Josh5890
At some point, you have to overpay for a free agent. That is just the way of life in baseball. If Swanson signs with a team not named the Cubs, that would mean all four top SS’s in the market went to different teams when Hoyer and Co said that they will be active. Definitely not a good look.
ChiSoxCity
Look, all this stuff about “overpaying” for top free agents is garbage. The market determines player values and contracts, not the players or the fans. If you’re a top 5 revenue team like the Cubs, and you’re trying to get top talent for below market value, YOU ARE LYING TO YOUR FANBASE. Everyone should understand this by now. Cubs fans don’t care one or another, so the point is moot. More sentient, self aware fanbases that are underserved and constantly misled by their respective teams needs to see it for what it is and act accordingly.
egrossen
As a Cubs fan, I agree with the first half of your post, but the 2nd half is not true.
Maybe 10-15 years ago that was true,
but not really anymore. Most Cubs fans care very much about the team and winning.
Question for you as a Sox fan: how are you feeling about the team after last season and so far nothing to improve this offseason? Concerned or confident in rebounds and good health?
msqboxer
As a Sox fan the single biggest improvement that can happen in 2023 is for Anderson, Robert and Jimenez to be able to play in 60 more games a piece. When you have 3 of your best players miss 180 total games any team is going to struggle. I would of course like to see the CWS sign a big name, but I can also see the view if these players a playing 150 games they should win the division. .
egrossen
If they can stay healthy, I see no reason they aren’t competing for the Central division title.
duhawk83
Obviously the Cubs lost the Quintana trade because of Dylan Cease, but, I have always wondered if the Cubs knew that Eloy Jimeniz is made of glass and that he would always be dealing with one injury or another.
ChiSoxCity
How do you think I feel?
duhawk83
You have Cease and we don’t you should feel great!
egrossen
Perhaps a little of both?
akula6969
Fire Kaplernic! That’s at least an extra 10 games won right there.
duhawk83
Jed Hoyer made an extreme tactical error with his preference for High AAV shorter deals when trying to sigh one of these shortstops, For this to have been a viable tactic requires that:
1) Players in question actively prefer to bet on themselves and accept a deal that guarantees less money than a longer deal with a lower AAV.
2) All of the other teams were of the same mind set.
What occurred was that neither of the two points were true, players would prefer guaranteed cash and the other teams were more than happy to enter into agreements that they know will not end well. If you are a big market team you sometimes have to eat a contract. Jed appears to be gun shy after the Jason Heyward contract which netted the Cubs a memorable speech and a really good guy in the clubhouse.
desertbull
Correa is not THAT guy. He’s a good player, not the face of a franchise or player you build around. He’s the guy you add when you are one player chort of being serious contender.
.836 career OPS
129 career OPS+
Hoyer was right to pass on him at $350M/13
BrettPhillipsFanClub
His leadership and being a bee in the dodger’s fan bonnet should be worth it. He definitely has a great winning mentality. I agree none of these contracts will age well but his should be worthwhile because he is a gamer that makes those around him better.
slider32
I think the Cubs want Swanson, if the get him they need to add more pitching! I would add D Smith at first, Smily,Lugo, and Green, and Chapman.
fearthecub
Honestly, I think I’d rather the Cubs trade with the Tigers to bring back Baez and assume his contract, rather than sign Swanson for longer/more money. Assuming it wouldn’t take much to acquire him.
Or keep Hoerner at SS, and being in Adam Frazier to add to all the other super utility guys on the roster.
CJML
I am fine with Swanson if they don’t get stupid with the contract. He makes sense and makes the team better. They still need an impact bat. Abreu made a ton of sense any of the other 3 ss seem to be better fits. Outside of a trade what’s left out there that can hit in the middle of the lineup? I like Tailon signing but Rodon or Degrom would of made a lot more sense. Degrom is a legitimate ace and signed for 5-6 years not 9-10. The cubs had one guy signed past 2024 going into the off season.
duhawk83
Too much swing and miss; I don’t miss that. Javy Baez either didn’t want to change his approach or is not capable of making the change. Plus, the best part of his game is predicated on quick reflexes, which is the first thing to go on an aging player..
fearthecub
Swanson is a very similar player to Baez. Lots of strikeouts, very streaky hitter, frustrating at times, but good teammate, strong defense and base running.
My point being why pay a premium price for a player that is eerily similar to a guy you just let walk, and who signed what looks like a much friendlier contract. Seems like change for the sake of change.
CJML
I agree. In fairness to the Cubs it sounds like they offered Javy pretty much the exact same contract he signed with the Tigers. That type of deal would make sense for Swanson.
duhawk83
Valid point, but, I don’t know how many times when Javy was in one of his three week long funks that he would come up with guys on second and third and have a four pitch at bat with three swings that corked screwed him into the ground. For a guy with a high baseball IQ on the bases and in the field he still does not understand the concept of situational hitting.
antibelt
Andrew Benintendi is a good option for the Giants. Reynolds had a negative numbers on defense the last couple of years.
gfan
Too many left handed outfielders already.
tmetz1023
Calling a Cubs/Sox bidding war for Brandon Drury
This one belongs to the Reds
Drury was solid for the Reds. I think he is an under the radar signing that someone will be delighted with.
BrettPhillipsFanClub
I agree drury’s lack of attention is jarring. His flexibility and bat should be really attractive. With only one year of good hitting he should be had affordably.
This one belongs to the Reds
Another one I am surprised isn’t getting more attention…Jean Segura.
Henry Silvestre
“Overpay” ??? If everyone is “Overpaying” it is not an “overpay” it’s call the GOING RATE!..
highheat
Correct, and I wonder how much that going rate is going to impact the trade candidacy of players. With all those big expenditures, there has to be some “cost-cutting” on rosters.
This one belongs to the Reds
I think it will affect the market for those guys between the minimum and double digit millions in the end. Then you’ll have crying about collusion probably when they bring up guys making the minimum instead.
duhawk83
What the market will bear….
Try hard Cubs fan 2
Tom Ricketts would rather build hotels and spend daddy’s money on super PACs then on players
duhawk83
The evidence does not bear that out, how many years did they have a top three payroll in MLB and pay the luxury tax. I think they are guilty of having too much confidence in the shorter time Higher AAV approach to signing Free Agents.
Try hard Cubs fan 2
They paid the luxury tax a whopping 3 times including 2016…so what? This is Chicago. they should be spending money every year, the Cubs print money.
duhawk83
I would contend that the Phillies and Padres are strong contenders for the World Series for the next 3-5 years making them more attractive than the Cubs, plus April in San Diego is so much better than in Chicago.
As for Correa, maybe they don’t like the fact that he has never had a season where he played in more than 130 games and that he has not even had an MVP season. I would agree that the market has changed, but, was he worth it.
junior25
If Cubs dont get Swanson they need to sign Segura/Drury/Mancini 2 out of the 3 and a couple arms
And reach out to AZ bout Varsho or Jays about Jensen or Moreno
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Cubs made unforced error letting Frank Schwindel leave town. Mark my words, he will RAKE over in Korea, and perhaps have a career year. When he’s ready to come back to MLB as hero and world conqueror , do you think he will be giddy to sign with the Cubs who disrespected him and laughed in his face??? Yeah, not so giddy. Cubs lose again smh.
ChiSoxCity
Bruh…
ASapsFables
Nick Deeds puting Gold Glove free agent LF Andrew Benintendi on the pay-no-mind list. lol
BrettPhillipsFanClub
Benintendi is a solid player but not a big contract type. He’s poster boy for just barely above league average and then factor in he will age.
ASapsFables
Says the analytic nerd!
It should also be noted that Benintendi is the highest ranked remaining OF free agent on this sites 2022-23 Top 50 Free Agents prediction list, He placed #15 overall and trailed only Aaron Judge and Brandon Nimmo among OF’s. He’s comfortably ahead of all the other outfielders that Deeds mentioned in the article.
Play the Game
It’s funny listening to WhiteSox and Cub fans ripping each others team. Truth is that BOTH Organizations Suck they always have and they always will.
bwmiller
I looked the White Sox depth chart at Fangraph’s, I like the farm, like the bullpen, like the SP’s, but the lineup isnt the same without Abreu
BrettPhillipsFanClub
Reynolds explicitly asked for a trade. What part says he would sign with them. After the past year of juan soto negotiations you havent learned anything
Samuel
BrettPhillipsFanClub;
The Pirates have his rights for 3 more years.
They can trade him in 2 or midway through the 3rd.
I thought they should have traded him last offseason. He’s a good player that stands out on a rebuilding team. That hardly makes him an impact plyer. His fWAR last year was 2.9 on 614 PA’s. He’s not Juan Soto.
cincinnatikid
Just think you could be Cincinnati fans. We’ve added a back up catcher and 3 minor league pitchers. Our top hitter from last year is a free agent(Donovan Solano). Our 3rd best hitter (Kyle farmer) was traded away and we have 47 million dollars to pay 2 players(mousakes and Votto) who couldn’t hit water last year if they fell out of a boat. Bring back the days of marge schott. Despite her personal issues at least she put a world series winning team together
This one belongs to the Reds
I always said that about Marge too. She might sell day old donuts to staff but she spent money on players.
I guarantee they won’t go after Swanson or even Drury, who I would have given a three year deal instead of trading away. Besides, we got 1900 shortstop projects in trades instead of actually having a plan and covering several positions. Moving guys around don’t always work. Senzel is a shining example.
mike127
The Cubs number one priority should be extend Stroman while he likes it in Chicago and before he becomes a free agent next year.
Argue all you want whether or not he’s a back pile #1 or a solid #2 or #3—he was really, really good the second half of the season (when healthy) and has been good for a while. As they are building a lot of depth–they really ought to be making sure they don’t lose a key piece when the young guys come up and contribute in 24-25 ish.
babybears
Cubs failed and as a baseball fan I lost major interest after the trades and lack of signing guys. I get that it is not my money, but it is really annoying as a fan of a franchise that has money and they do not do anything. And baseball is broken with the guaranteed contracts. It needs a model like the NFL but will never happen. A league wide salary cap would also be impactful. and to play maybe like 120 games instead of 162. Season is way to long. It is sad because I love baseball but it is a dying sport as it continues down this path.
dennymagnet
The Giants need a RH outfield bat with some pop. Drury fits the bill.
Also the Giants could make a trade without sacrificing the farm.
Rsox
While you are correct they need a RH OF bat part of me would love to see how many balls Gallo could hit into McCovey cove
richardc
Qhy does every comment section on here where the article even mentions one of the Cubs or the White Sox ends up turning into both their fanbases arguing like children…
Given, I will say it does seem like a few specific White Sox fans are typically the antagonists…lol
duhawk83
I will not paint with a broad brush but there is a “White Sox Fan” tribe that lives to love their team and hate the Cubs. Unfortunately, we passionate Cubs fans are too quick to take the bait.
Jean Matrac
Did Benentendi sign somewhere, and I missed it? I wonder why he wasn’t listed as one of the FA OFs available.
ChiSoxCity
Apparently Cubs fans don’t mind being exploited by an organization that rakes in half a billion dollars a year in revenues. All that offseason hype about “the green light to spend” and skwadoosh. You’d think there would be some kind of backlash from this PR nightmare, but nope. They just inundate the online forums with hivemind NPCs to subdue dissent with snark and schadenfreude. The koolaid is sweet and cold as ever on “da nort side”.