The Red Sox have hired Kyle Hudson to be their first base coach and outfield instructor, rounding out their major league coaching hires for 2023, according to Sean McAdam of the Boston Sports Journal.
Hudson, 36, joins Boston having spent the past three seasons with the Guardians, where he worked as an outfield instructor and staff assistant. Prior to that, he’d served as a bench coach at Cleveland’s Triple-A affiliate in Columbus in 2019.
Hudson, a left fielder, got a brief taste of the big leagues as a player in 2014, tallying 29 plate appearances and picking up four hits across a 14 game stint for the Orioles. At the highest level of the minor leagues, Hudson owned a combined .276/.353/.304 line. While he never hit a home run across eight minor league seasons, he was known for his speed, and picked up 191 stolen bases.
He’ll take the spot on Alex Cora’s staff vacated by Will Venable, who has gone to the Rangers. Venable worked as Boston’s bench coach, but his departure saw previous first base coach Ramon Vazquez promoted to the role for 2023.
Redsoxx_62
No HRs in his minor league career? Well he will fit right in with the outfield this season
GaryWarriorsRedSox
News flash for you. He won’t be PLAYING.
He’ll be fitting in as first base COACH, teaching guys the ins and outs of base running success, which by the way this guy excelled at supposedly. Couldn’t hit his way out of a paper bag yet was a professional baseball player for several years.
Redsoxx_62
Ever heard of a joke?
GaryWarriorsRedSox
Been watching the Red Sox this off season? Now that’s a joke.
deweybelongsinthehall
Joke?: unbelievably, the biggest move by any team this off season…
123redsox
Why are you yelling? It’s not that deep. Happy New Year
GaryWarriorsRedSox
Sarcasm? Sure that’s fine but it’s not sitting well with me right now after this off season the Red Sox have had. Going to take a minute to digest the crap that has been the last 2 months.
GASoxFan
Don’t forget all the nice material that hasn’t been reported here on this site. The more time that goes by, the more leaks out about bloom ruining the org reputation and players views on the red sox.
SI and others have picked up a story out of eovaldi’s camp about the multi-year offer extended near the QO. Reportedly, chaim didn’t put a time limit on it and when nates reps circled back, they were told, ‘nope, we’re pulling it’ by bloom with no reason given and payroll still waaaaay below cbt.
All this adds up to players having less reason to take anything this FO says or offers seriously, and, dropping the club a few more rungs down the totem pole as a destination
JoeBrady
Seriously? To quote SI:
“”It sounds like they made him what was a good offer earlier in the offseason and (his agents) weren’t ready to take it, they were like: ‘this market could blow up.’ The market never did blow up.
“It sounds like from some of what I’ve heard, Eovaldi’s camp came back to the Red Sox and said ‘okay, can we still get that offer back?’ (The Red Sox) said no. That was after they got Masataka Yoshida, Kenley Jansen and Chris Martin.”
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So the RS made him a good offer, and Eovaldi got greedy and shopped the offer. When he couldn’t squeeze any more money from anyone else, he came back and expected the RS to honor their original offer?
That’s insane.
deweybelongsinthehall
Unfortunately, we may never get the full story. I try to be objective and it depends on what was truly said. I can blame the team if the offer was open ended. In typical negotiations offers and demands don’t normally expire but as you pointed out Joe, the Sox seem to have pivoted elsewhere and have a total budget to work under. When I negotiate, occasionally I place a time limit on the offer and sometimes the situation changes and it’s the other side that changes things by increasing their demand. Unfortunately, we often don’t get the full picture to really understand what happened.
all in the suit that you wear
It looks like the Red Sox might have had an offer to Eovaldi and that they were waiting to see what he would do because the Red Sox signed Kluber the day after Eovaldi signed with the Rangers.
all in the suit that you wear
GASoxFan: When you walk away from a deal, there is no guarantee it will be there in the future. Agents know this. That is why some players don’t give their former team a chance to match an offer. They take the offer before the team changes their mind.
Fever Pitch Guy
suit – You’re absolutely right. Offseason acquisitions are highly contingent on each other. If I have X dollars to spend on 3 pitchers, I’m not gonna hold off on three other guys while I wait for my top choice to make a decision.
However, the right thing for Bloom to do would have been to tell Nate the offer expires in 48 or 72 hours. If he had said that, perhaps Nate is still with the Sox today. This is one reason why Bloom is being raked over the coals all offseason, he’s either very arrogant or totally clueless. Since he’s so young and inexperienced, it’s possibly a combination of both.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – Only you could call the shopping of offers “greedy”.
If you’ve ever entered the workforce and had multiple job opportunities simultaneously, did you immediately take the first offer? Or did you take the time to hear what the other offers would be?
Bloom should have put a deadline on the offer, or at least warned Nate that it would soon be pulled if he didn’t accept, it’s as simple as that.
tree2436
Sox offered Eovaldi 3 years and that was confirmed by Chad Jennings of The Athletic amongst others. I wish Nasty Nate well in Texas.
all in the suit that you wear
Fever: It could be Eovaldi was arrogant and clueless about his market with draft picks attached to him. We don’t know what happened, so why rake anyone over the coals?
Fever Pitch Guy
suit – This three year offer was extended early on, right? Shortly after Nate rejected the QO I believe. So why would Nate be the arrogant one, it was the first offer he received. There is nothing greedy or arrogant about fielding offers. You saying Nate should have accepted the first offer he received is silly.
It’s common courtesy to either establish a deadline to accept an offer, or give the player fair warning when the offer will soon be pulled. That’s the part that Bloom is guilty of being arrogant, not the offer itself.
And do we even know if the 3 years were guaranteed, or how much the total contract was for?
all in the suit that you wear
Fever: You’re right we don’t know details. We don’t know any of the discussions, so I don’t see how you could be so sure that Bloom messed up.
Salvi
I love FPG’s take. Holding out for a better offer isnt greedy. But, moving on from the deal makes the GM arrogant.
Too funny, its all business at the end of the day. It shows FPGs bias more than anything about player or team.
Fever Pitch Guy
suit – You’re right, I am basing it on the SI article.
Since none of us here are participating in these free agent negotiations, we don’t know for sure.
So then we have to go to motive and reputation.
Nate doesn’t have a reputation of lying, Bloom does.
As for motivation, why would Nate’s camp throw Bloom under the bus? What would they gain from it?
It’s a shame, because if Bloom had given a deadline then perhaps Nate would still be with the Sox and both the Red Sox and Nate would be happy with the contract.
If you want to say it was an honest mistake on Bloom’s part, I suppose that could be true … but then it just adds to the many blunders he’s made with the Sox (such as offering Xander $90M right after giving Story $140M).
GASoxFan
I agree Fever, bloom has a massive reputation for half truths, outright lies.
Meanwhile, chaim made an offer of some sort right around the QO. No reports of a time limit. Hadn’t made substantive moves to bolster the rotation. Hadn’t approached the cbt or even prior years spending levels, and, kept talking about adding 8-9 guys in the mix and hadn’t hit that target either.
So, agents listen a little while and circle back to an offer that hadnt had an expiration on it…and gets told nope, we’re not honoring the offer. No reason. Not saying they’ve spent payroll allocation elsewhere. Not saying they pivoted elsewhere to pursue other guys. Just a simple nope.
I think they never were serious, and, just wanted fan cover to say hey we tried but sorry guys, let me sign another geriatric arm in the twilight of career to a flip-deal of one year plus an option so we can try for more busted prospects.
JoeBrady
In typical negotiations offers and demands don’t normally expire
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So if I interview for a job, and get an offer, I can tell the HR dude, “Let me get back to you in a month to see if anyone wants to top your offer”?
JoeBrady
Joe – Only you could call the shopping of offers “greedy”.
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It depends on the offer, and how much he wanted to stay in Boston. If the offer was good, as the article mentions, and Nate liked it here, he should simply have said yes.
To me, this is the Jason Bay saga all over again. Boston and Fenway Park were a sensational fit for Bay. Shea and the Mets were an awful fit. He got more money, but I cannot imagine he liked his choice.
JoeBrady
I don’t see how you could be so sure that Bloom messed up.
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It is reductive reasoning. Reach a conclusion, and work backwards.
But this is a little more ridiculous than most. Bloom made a 3-year offer. Eovaldi declined and shopped the offer. Ergo, Bloom is wrong.
JoeBrady
I think they never were serious,
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So the 3-year offer wasn’t serious?
So Bloom goes into Henry and says “John, I just offered Nate three years”. Both Henry & Bloom chuckle and go back to work.
And that’s the say you think these things work?
Seriously?
GASoxFan
So the 3-year offer wasn’t serious?
So Bloom goes into Henry and says “John, I just offered Nate three years”. Both Henry & Bloom chuckle and go back to work.
And that’s the say you think these things work?
Seriously?
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Sure Joe, could be. Your attempt at sarcasm may be right on the money, especially if their goal is to generate misleading statements.
Maybe your “3 year deal” was 3 years 10m total. Maybe it was one year, with 2 consecutive options.
Do you know what the terms were? Of so, how can you claim it was serious or on good faith.
Maybe they made the QO, and, made a 3 year deal at 3/18m. How do we know? Maybe they just wanted to say they made an offer.
Or, do you really intern for Bloom and know the details?
GASoxFan
If one guy has an issue or issues with the front office, then you can say hey, maybe it’s the player.
When the majority of feedback coming from players or agents regarding a front office is negative, then it’s a team problem.
The mookie thing has been beat to death. Ok. We won’t rehash that one.
Nobody from the FO tried to work things out with Pedey to open a 40 man slot and take care of him. Even the Yankees managed that with arod.
Literally EVERY major boston FA of bloom’s tenure has had issues with the front office. Ranging from not being engaged, to being lowballed and disrespected, to things like Nate ‘s camp talks about. It’s a pretty clear pattern.
And it’s not like the team is pivoting from an inferior player to a clear upgrade. It’s STILL chasing damaged goods or future trade bait to gather prospects. Guys do well in boston are ignored and spurned to look for a reclamation project.
JoeBrady
Or, do you really intern for Bloom and know the details?
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Instead of engaging in stupid insults, or what you perceive to be insults, why not just admit you don’t have a single clue as to what you are talking about.
What we know now is that Bloom offered Eovaldi 3 years. Eovaldi misread the market and declined. This happens. I couldn’t care less. It’s Eovaldi’s decision.
But to think Bloom is to blame for Eovaldi misreading the market is insane. Not only is Bloom not going to keep his offer open forever, no normal person is going top do so either.
It is completely insane to think that any baseball or any sports offer should stay open forever.
GASoxFan
What’s completely insane is to think all sports offers are like job offers in 99.9999% of jobs, an instantaneous take it or leave it and expires 5 minutes later situation.
Comparing an hr interview with sports negotiations is disingenuous. There’s a reason the giants are still reaching out to correas camp too.
To make an offer and have a player circle back 6 weeks later when you’ve got the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays in-between isn’t a big deal, especially when the first offer is made at the time a QO is issued. Even more so when a time limit isn’t attached to an offer which is standard practice when you don’t expect an age t/player to consider it active.
I notice to fail to engage on the possibility the FO was trying to save face, and, you refuse to acknowledge that it was anything close to a fair market value offer.
Boston under bloom has an established track record of misreading the market and making offers in the bottom valuation of deals tendered to particular FAs. Even agents say they repeated undervalue players, and it’s not by 10% either… it’s closer to being off by 50% or more.
deweybelongsinthehall
Fever, don’t always believe what’s written While it could be Bloom’s fault, it could also be spin to save face if NE or his agent blew it this time.
deweybelongsinthehall
Fever, don’t you think there were contacts? You seem to always believe the worst when it comes to Bloom. I get it. I’m frustrated but my frustration is more with ownership that forced the strip down of a very good but not perfect squad. Had the Sox finished hast in 21 too, regardless of who was running the club, the checkbook would have been opened again and again.
deweybelongsinthehall
Joe. it depends on the circumstances. iTge more money involved and the more strings both sides try to attach. In an employment situation back in 08, I did not like the offer but the employer knew my job was ending so they tried to stick firm. My then current employer extended my job repeatedly (they were in voluntary liquidation but my direct boss knew there was still work for me and tried to help my negotiations. I also wanted to take a month off between jobs. The knew employer needed me then so they raised their offer but I had to agree I would start immediately and then agreed to a two week vacation after 90 days Obviously baseball is different. I just believe Bloom is merely the messenger and has actually minimal authority.
deweybelongsinthehall
How, one thing about ownership is they constantly look for value (i.e. Henry making his $$ arbitraging) and Eovaldi or his agent thought the offer was low and was either testing the market or believed that another offer was forthcoming. We just don’t know what was said and in today’s world everyone can put anything out on the web.
GASoxFan
Dewey – sometimes an agent blows it. Freddie in negotiations with ATL before heading to the LAD was a good example.
However, when there is such a body of narratives and the common thread is one club (BOS) and one OPS head (Bloom), then like the saying goes. Where there’s smoke there’s usually fire. And there is SO much smoke coming out of blooms office it’s not just from snuffing out one candle poorly.
deweybelongsinthehall
With what you posted GASoxfan, don’t you think DD left for other reasons than what was then mentioned. Sox ownership when it comes to players has been like this since 2004 when that team changed after the win. I thought Pedro was through and in 15, I was wrongly ok with trading Lester. The Sox also got Pedie on a team friendly deal and in the past played hard ball with Ortiz and Varitek. This to me is much more ownership than it is Bloom.
all in the suit that you wear
GASoxFan: “Even agents say they repeated undervalue players….”
Please post quotes of what the agents said and the sources of the quotes. Thanks.
all in the suit that you wear
GASoxFan: “When the majority of feedback coming from players or agents regarding a front office is negative….”
Please post quotes from the players and agents and the sources of the quotes. That would be educational for us all. Thanks.
all in the suit that you wear
Fever: Whatever happened, I am happy with Eovaldi being gone. I will always be grateful for all he did in Boston and he seems like a great guy, but I think it was time to move on after seeing his injuries last season.
JoeBrady
My then current employer extended my job repeatedly
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I had the same thing. They were relocating the finance office back to Japan, my boss quit, and they gave me a “one-year” separation contract. It lasted 5 years. But just because it was open-ended, doesn’t mean I thought, or that I expected anything. You don’t get an offer and think it will be open forever.
JoeBrady
Eovaldi or his agent thought the offer was low and was either testing the market or believed that another offer was forthcoming.
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I’m pretty sure Eovaldi was hoping for more. And given the market, that wouldn’t be unusual. And that seems fairly obvious to me. I just don’t understand why the haters want to blame Bloom for it.
I’m sure players all over the league reject opening bids. I’d bet it is probably the majority of them. But that doesn’t mean that the team is frozen in place for months while the player shops for a better offer. That would be insane.
JoeBrady
Please post quotes from the players and agents and the sources of the quotes.
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Never going to happen. No agent in his right mind is going to insult any GM, let alone the GM of a large market team. Boras probably got Preller to go about $100M over market for Bogaerts, but Boras bent over backwards to sing the praises of Bloom and the RS.
Boras might’ve been lying thru his teeth, but agents don’t make money insulting GMs.
But let’s see what GA comes up with to support his statement.
JoeBrady
GASoxFan: “Even agents say they repeated undervalue players….”
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So did GA ever back to you with the source of his quote?
CaptainJudge99
The RedSox would of been better off signing Kate Hudson.
Fever Pitch Guy
Captain – I vote for Saul Hudson, he could entertain during 1-2-3 innings.
CaptainJudge99
@Fever Pitch Guy- Saul is fine, I just think Kate looks a little better. Lol.
Mi Casas es tu Casas
If Samuel was here he’d say Rock Hudson
Fever Pitch Guy
Captain – I agree, but her role in the Yankees last championship is what turns me off a bit.
And ARod made the wrong choice back then, Cameron Diaz would have been a much better selection.
CaptainJudge99
Are you suggesting that Samuel plays in another league for another team? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
CaptainJudge99
@Fever Pitch Guy- I think your confusing Jennifer López with Kate Hudson? Or did ARod hang out with Kate Hudson also? That definitely could of got past me. With all these beautiful women celebs it gets pretty confusing truthfully. Lol! Yeah Cameron Diaz is really pretty too though. Smh! Too close to call.
Fever Pitch Guy
Captain – Hudson was shown on TV for just about every Yankee postseason game in 2009. They had a ton o PDA that year, and Hudson even went on the field to make out with him.
pagesix.com/2010/05/14/kate-hudson-cameron-diaz-in…
instyle.com/news/tbt-kate-hudson-alex-rodriguez-re…
deweybelongsinthehall
Another benefit with her likely at Citi Field for Mets’ fans this off season
StudWinfield
Ernie Hudson as long as he has his proton pack.
CaptainJudge99
I’d be okay with Jennifer Hudson also.
JoeBrady
Kate sounds like high maintenance.
deweybelongsinthehall
No one’s asking you to marry her Joe (too late), just look at her in the stands should the opportunity present itself
Fever Pitch Guy
dewey – I’ve sat next to some amazing celeb women during Sox games, my favorite was Lindsay Clubine (Clay’s wife). She was so nice and down to earth.
CaptainJudge99
@JoeBrady-Starting to think all Kate’s are high maintenance now?
deweybelongsinthehall
I never sat knowingly next to specific wives but I did sit in the visiting team section many times at Yankee Stadium back in the late 80s and once had a great evening talking back and forth with Ellis Burks’agent.
Yankee Clipper
Has there been such a controversial RSox management figure in recent Sox history as Chaim Bloom?
I don’t recall anyone in recent memory causing such a divide within RSox Nation, but I could be wrong…It just may not have been as apparent to me as a Yankee fan for whatever reason.
GASoxFan
Clipper, if you’re asking hated by the players and destroying morale, I’d point to Bobby valentine even though he wasn’t exactly FO, he was part of management of sorts.
If you want FO types, I’d say there was a large contingent who disliked Ben cherington who, coincidentally, traded away a lot of fan liked players and presided over a number of losing seasons while leaving the club saddled with bad deals like fat Pablo and lazy hanley
Yankee Clipper
Dang, I’m embarrassed. I completely forgot BOBBY V managed the Red Sox! Yikes, I need a nootropic.
GASoxFan
We’ll chalk it up to turkey hangovers or an early new year’s celebration. At least you didn’t try to claim in the last sox thread that JDM hitting above .300 with nearly a .900 OPS at the AS break last year wasn’t tradable for value the way joebrady did. That’s almost to the level of another Joe we watch on the national stage, maybe they’ve got the same problem.
JoeBrady
GASoxFan2 hours ago
At least you didn’t try to claim in the last sox thread that JDM hitting above .300 with nearly a .900 OPS at the AS break
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1-JD had one HR in his final 153 ABs prior to the trade deadline.
2-JD signed a $10M contract.
Maybe explain why a guy that was a big trade chip at the trade deadline, had to accept almost a 50% haircut a couple of months later.
GASoxFan
Those two things have nothing to do with JDM tradability at the AS break.
Hint genius – the trade deadline is no longer near the allstar break so your stat is meaningless to rebut the proposition of trading the guy at the all star break when more games remain to be played and he can make a greater impact on the new team. More games on roster in theory mean more value in return. The longer you wait, the less you get – a concept both you and bloom fail to comprehend apparently.
You never did answer in the other thread although you continued to post there, as to why the following don’t make JD an asset worth more than the NOTHING BLOOM HAS GOTTEN FOR HIM WALKING:
9 HRs through first 300 at-bats.
Around AS break, LEAD the American League with 29 doubles AND had a slash line of .313/.380/.500. (That’s an .880 OPS which is pretty good since you don’t seem to notice the numbers.)
Had the most games in mlb where reaching base safely four or more times in a game with eight before the AS break.
Also, was in top 10 of the AL for ALL players in average, on-base percentage, OPS, hits and extra-base hits.
So, joebrady, explain WHY jd wasn’t a trade chip using something other than how many HRs he hit in 150PAs before the deadline, and, IF that hr total was an issue, please list his OPB, XBH, slugging, OPS+ and WRC+ in that same period and why those had no compensating effect.
I won’t hold my breath because I’m sure there is no answer forthcoming.
And if FA contract value is the be all end all, explain why players have spurned higher offers from SD, SF, etc this offseason.
deweybelongsinthehall
GA Sox, you’re assuming Bloom had the approval from ownership to make any large type moves then. If anything, at that point, the team was just as likely to add players then given the third WC spot.
GASoxFan
Dewey – by definition that is the scope of powers ownership are on record saying they gave bloom.
JoeBrady
9 HRs through first 300 at-bats.
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That’s $1M per HR. Heck of a bargain there.
Now, why do you think JD only got $10M, when you thought he was worth more than $19M.
JoeBrady
Now, why do you think JD only got $10M, when you thought he was worth more than $19M.
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Okay GA. You’ve had a few days to think of something. Any idea why JD was worth $19M + prospect(s) a couple of months ago, and only worth $10M now?
JoeBrady
I don’t recall anyone in recent memory causing such a divide within RSox Nation
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It’s always been the same.
Some fans referred to Theo as Ineptstein and referred to Tito as Francoma.
Maybe the best GM and manager in history, and some RS fans hated both of them.
And Henry is the most successful owner in RS history and some fans want him to sell the team..
deweybelongsinthehall
JB. I’m in the selling camp because ownership is looking more at their brand than they are the team. Many argued years ago which way Sox fans would prefer, yo-yoing between title contention and last place or winning the WS every few years or so. Most answered the latter but I now find myself getting more and more frustrated by ownership not saying anything and letting Bloom get raked like this. I understand it’s part of the job he signed up for. I just wish the team would get sold and new ownership gives Bloom two years to see if his draft picks can mature together.
StudWinfield
Sox had a great 15 year run. The net of Verdugo and Wong from the Betts trade hurts. In retrospect they should have suffered Price and gotten better talent in that deal. Hopefully they don’t repeat it with Sale.
Fever Pitch Guy
Stud – One of the things that ticked off Sox fans is when Bloom said trading Mookie was necessary to create enough payroll flexibility to sign other homegrown stars. But he hasn’t kept his stars, Benny was traded and both Xander & ERod walked and Devers seems like he will be following Xander out the door.
Every time Bloom lies, his chin gets longer.
GASoxFan
And twice a year chaim has plastic surgery to trim back the length, right Fever?
JoeBrady
I now find myself getting more and more frustrated by ownership not saying anything and letting Bloom get raked like this.
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Henry is downright juvenile with his refusal to answer hard questions. He is ubiquitous when the RS win, and goes ghost when they lose. But I still like the results.
Fever Pitch Guy
Clip – Theo was controversial because of his immaturity and desire to push Lucchino out of power. Theo even went so far as to leave Fenway in a gorilla suit.
Duquette was controversial because he was an analytics trailblazer who hired a NYC water meter reader to be the team’s statistician. Look up Mike Gimbel.
2012orioles
Pinch ran for Chris Davis in the famous Andino game 9/28/2011. Scored the tying run. That’s the only time I remember him playing, but to this day, I remember Kyle Hudson.
steven st croix
I like his positions listed on his baseball reference page, “Leftfielder and Pinch Runner”.
miltpappas
Well, Razor Shines was a pinch-hitter and first baseman. Yet, he never hit a home run or even scored a run in 88 plate appearances. I guess you have to call them something.
Mi Casas es tu Casas
Bring back Goody
Samuel
Teams keep taking coaches and FO people from the Guardians.
LouWhitakerHOF
Did he get hired away from the Guardians or let go by the Guardians?
GaryWarriorsRedSox
It’s a move up so he probably left them. But I don’t know that for sure. Probably safe to say you’re not going to fire an instructor or staff assistant on a low level.
Rckprtrla
is that the fourth who has been hired away from the Guardians? Now there’s an obscure stat: most coaches hired away from one team in an offseason.
Samuel
Rckprtrla;
Two of their pitching assistants have turned around staffs with the Padres and Yankees. And the Cubs GM seems to be doing nicely.
The are others of course.
Randy Red Sox
I am sure he was signed to a 1 year deal
Milwaukee-2208
Off topic to the article but the Correa story is wild to me. Mets are trying to get approval from MLB to have all these clauses in his contract related to missed time due to that specific leg injury, which would reduce the years and salary requirements.
If that gets approved by MLB that opens a huuuuge can of worms for future contracts, and will force players to not play as hard to reduce injury. You will see a lot of pending big free agent names dogging it to reduce injury to avoid those clauses.
I really hope that does not go through and MLB tells the Mets to shove it. Pay the man or don’t. That simple. This is bigger than Correa and will taint the game if clauses like this are allowed.
Michael Macaulay-Birks
I would take Correa on the Red Sox for the same deal he signed with Minnesota, no two ways about it, he’s damaged goods now
JoeBrady
I would too. This sounds more like a wear-down issue than a catastrophic failure issue.
deweybelongsinthehall
Absolutely but if this falls through too, why wouldn’t he go back to MN where it did seem like both sides wanted to get a deal done? Correa did look comfortable there once he settled in.
Fever Pitch Guy
Mil – Not only do these specific pre-existing injury clauses help both players and teams, it’s already being utilized for years now.
Just on my team alone I can name two players who had similar clauses, John Lackey and JD Martinez.
If Correa doesn’t think the pre-existing concern will become an issue, why would he have a problem with agreeing to the clause?
If I’m Correa and the clause is the only thing keeping me from a mega-contract, I’m signing the damn contract!
GASoxFan
Fever, the only problem is if you’re playing through more pain than you let on. Maybe you feel the problem, but, just don’t report it and try to grin and bear it knowing it would crater your market if you went to the trainers.
Wouldn’t be the first time a guy masked an issue from his team and tried to push through to lock in a deal.
Fever Pitch Guy
GASox – I think you missed the part where I wrote “If Correa doesn’t think the pre-existing concern will become an issue” ;O)
Absolutely players will hide an injury, pain and discomfort when they are trying for a contract or extension.
Sale is the perfect example, he rushed the extension and gave Dombrowski a home team discount because he knew he was injured.
JoeBrady
I’d allow it as well. It’s a bit like the government trying to dictate an agreement between two people. If both sides are qualified, with no unfair advantage from either side, let them take care of it.
I’m quite comfortable with Boras coming up with an appropriate solution. If worse comes to worst, Correa moves on to team #3.
Byroneous
2023 season recap
Sox record 71-91
Fire from Cora all the way up
Hire Varitek as coach
Get a haul for Devers
Spend money but wisely.
2023 is gonna SUCK
Samuel
Baseball has managers.
GASoxFan
The one error of 2023 prognostication is ‘spend money but wisely’….
The FO already blew that one. You need to correct to ‘unwisely’…. that one is down pat.
madmc44
I agree with most of what you said. I would add… get what you can for Sale and Devers.
I think we are closer to where we want to be than we realize. If you can’t move Sale and he winds up back on the IL so-be-it. But do what you can to move Devers-he’s not going to help the club-he will miss Boggie too much.
Trade Devers for Machado–if Machado walks after ’23 so be it–everyone will be happy we didn’t wait and get 0000000for Devers. Maybe you can extend Machado after ’23 or trade him at the deadline.
GASoxFan
Uhh… no. No to all the above madmc.
Machado not only wants more than Devers, but, that a-hole was directly responsible for ruining the health and career of Pedey with his dirty play.
Only way I would trade for Machado os if you made him lick the urinals clean in fenway instead of playing the field.
dirty617water
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dirtbagbaseball427
The Sox confused me going back to the deadline last summer. Like you can’t play it half way sellers halfway rebuild. Obviously you have to put a product on the field (hence Turner signing) but like what are they really doing. I don’t think their farm system is anything special. Maybe relying on the return they’re going to get for Devers which will go down significantly if they wait until July.
JoeBrady
but like what are they really doing.
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The strategy is to have a mediocre rotation with 5 guys that can give you regular quality starts, good hitting, and a BP that will close games.
cah011381
Also played wide receiver at Illinois, ended up with 73 catches for 999 yards in three seasons.
Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree
…still don’t have a 2nd baseman/shortstop…
RSmith
Is there some rule you cant obtain players between now and opening day? You not only want some of the most expensive players, you demand them by calendar year.
GASoxFan
If they’re will to risk story’s arm at short and put arroyo at 2b you should be willing to take Iglesias at SS and keep story at 2b with arroyo as a sub. Better defensive alignment and more depth
Nobby
The solution at shortstop is to bring the new kid up and start him on Opening Day. They dump Bogie because they think he’s the future……well the future is now. Other teams, I.e. the Rays do it all the time.
AL34
Most of the rookies tanked last year. The reason a lot of these so called GMs taunt rookie development is because it buys them time for job security while the rookies take time to develop.
Occams_hairbrush
84 comments and counting on a post about Kyle Hudson being hired as a coach.
Rabid fanbase much?
GASoxFan
Fans need something to entertain themselves since the so called talent the brass runs out on the field is such a sore disappointment year in and out since DD left town, getting worse each season as more and more self inflicted wounds occur
Mi Casas es tu Casas
The natives are restless
JoeBrady
More like OCD, but yeah………
JoeBrady
Up to 111, and virtually none of the comments were about Hudson or his abilities.
AL34
Typical Chaim Bloom. While teams added top talent Bloom added second rate talent including a Japanese player who has never played in the Majors before. He also adds a coach. We now have the All Glass Rotation of Sale, Paxton, and Kluber marked Extremely Fragile Handle with Care.
I cannot believe that John Henry does not see Blooms acquisitions as being good ones.
Soxfanforever
I enjoy all the regular board members comments better than the story. All Bloom is doing is tweaking the roster to act like that’s all it my needs. I guess in NY and Boston you can’t use the term rebuild, but the starting pitcher is pretty much that. Chris Sale might still have it but that is a huge question mark.
Let’s see how they spin it when pitchers and catchers report