The Mets are showing interest in Carlos Correa, report Ken Rosenthal, Dan Hayes and Andy McCullough of the Athletic. It’s not clear precisely how committed they are to making a run at the top remaining free agent, but their presence on at least the periphery of the market makes for a fascinating twist.
This offseason has been dominated by Mets headlines, with the team signing a number of top free agents. New York made nine-figure commitments to retain Edwin Díaz ($102MM over five years) and Brandon Nimmo ($162MM over eight years). The Mets brought in Justin Verlander on a two-year, $86.66MM deal — tying the annual salary record they established with last offseason’s three-year pact for Max Scherzer. They agreed to terms with Kodai Senga on a five-year, $75MM pact and have signed smaller but still notable deals with José Quintana (two years, $26MM) and David Robertson (one year, $10MM).
That spending spree added to a roster that already had the league’s highest payroll. Certainly, the Mets faced a number of key departures as well. They allowed Jacob deGrom, Chris Bassitt and Taijuan Walker to sign elsewhere. That said, they’re already projected well beyond this year’s spending level. New York opened the 2022 campaign with a player payroll around $264MM; they’re projected by Roster Resource at a staggering $336MM figure for next season.
It’s an unparalleled number in league history, one that leaves open the question of how far owner Steve Cohen and his front office are willing to go. Cohen has proven himself undeterred by traditional spending habits, and he’s certainly seemed unfazed by the luxury tax that’s ostensibly in place to prevent any team from spending head and shoulders above the rest.
Roster Resource projects the Mets’ luxury tax number around $350MM at the moment. They’re $117MM clear of the base tax threshold and are going to blow past all four tiers of penalization. New York paid the CBT this past season, so they’re also facing escalating penalties for going over for a second straight year. The Mets will pay a 30% tax on their first $20MM above the threshold ($6MM), a 42% tax on their next $20MM in overages ($8.4MM), a 75% tax on their next $20MM in surplus spending ($15MM) and a 90% tax on any additional dollars. New York is currently an estimated $57MM above the fourth and final tier, one colloquially known as the “Cohen tax” after being introduced in the most recent CBA at least partially in response to Cohen’s reputation for spending. That’s another $51.3MM in taxes, bringing New York’s total projected tax bill to a staggering $80.7MM.
Of course, that’s before considering the possibility of adding another megadeal. Correa is the best free agent still on the board. At the start of the offseason, MLBTR forecasted a nine-year, $288MM contract. The two top shortstops already off the board — Trea Turner and Xander Bogaerts — each best our predictions, with Bogaerts’ $280MM contract coming in well above most expectations. In light of the strength of the market, Correa pushing past $300MM now seems likely, and one could argue for him to approach the $360MM guarantee Aaron Judge received from the Yankees given Correa’s youth and greater defensive value.
Even if we conservatively pencil Correa in for the pre-offseason prediction of $288MM over nine years, that’d come out to a $32MM annual salary. New York would be taxed at 90% on top of that, effectively making it a $60.8MM commitment to the star shortstop for next season. It’d be the kind of move a team has never made for an individual player, and again, that now seems a rather pessimistic view of Correa’s earning power. Certainly, the deal could push longer than nine years and lower the annual salary somewhat — Turner and Bogaerts each received 11 years despite being older than Correa — but any permutation of the contract would involve the team investing an immense sum. Cohen has clearly established himself as an owner unconcerned with precedent, and it’d be foolish to count the Mets out on any free agent at this point.
The Mets don’t need a shortstop, of course, with Francisco Lindor locked in as their long-term answer at the position. Third base isn’t accounted for by a star, with veteran Eduardo Escobar coming off an average season and top prospect Brett Baty still unproven at the MLB level. Relying on Escobar and Baty wouldn’t be a disaster, but installing Correa alongside Pete Alonso, Jeff McNeil and Lindor would lock in All-Star caliber players everywhere on the infield.
Beyond the Mets, the Giants and incumbent Twins are reported to be prioritizing Correa at this stage of the offseason. They’re widely viewed as the top suitors, while teams like the Cubs and Red Sox have been more loosely linked to him. Dansby Swanson, who’s drawing attention from many of the same clubs, remains available as the clear second-best position player still on the open market.
Lloyd Emerson
Oh come on now!
Deadguy
Steve Cohen Big Sexy Wallet got all the players wanting to be the Mets service slave
CaptainJudge99
This must be a typo
Deadguy
San Fran 13 years 350 million
Al Hirschen
Michael Marino
@MarinoMLB
Source: Francisco Lindor has told Steve Cohen he’d like the team to target Carlos Correa to play Third Base for the club. The team has been in recent discussions and is considered to be a real player for Correa. Giants and Twins among others remain strongly in.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
They’d just need to trade for Javy Baez and 3/4 of the infield will be team Puerto Rico
jt33nym
Been there, done that lol
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Thanks for PCA btw. Saw a short video of him saying he modeled his defense after Baez and then they’re traded for each other. I really think he’s gonna be a superstar player in the coming years.
Nothing
This is becoming kinda of ridiculous now, and not in a good way. One team can’t be dominating free agency to this extent. If it’s just due diligence, fine. But if the Mets actually land this guy, this is gonna be a problem for the league. IDK what can be done about it though.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Cut overage from the draft pool. Triple penalties for a certain threshold. They had Lindor.
rct
The other teams could spend more?
Nothing
In an ideal world, absolutely. But the hard truth is that there is not a single other team in baseball (well, maybe the Padres) that is willing to as crazy with the payroll as Steve Cohen. We can dream for a league like that one day, but it ain’t happening any time soon.
Yankee Clipper
Again, I am confused at the concern for Cohen’s own money. Just because other teams have owners who are more stringent, and some who refuse to spend, why should Cohen be punished?
Also, nobody can point to any negative impact this has on the game. Everyone portends that it will have some effect later, but it never happens. Baseball has become more competitive, not less.
This was never intended to be a cap, only progressive fines for going over. If they never wanted people going over, why bother putting annual progressions in the policy? They understood this would happen.
I say let him spend, man. Which is better for baseball? Spending or not spending (ie, A’s & Pirates, etc?). I’d argue the latter hurt the game far more than the former, but because they intentionally don’t try nobody cares if they hurt the game…..because they’re not a threat.
DonOsbourne
Should we dream for a league like that? Is the quality of play better if more teams spend wildly? Is the game more interesting? I would actually say no on both counts. I hate watching declining vets with big contracts receive playing time over young players. I hate my cable bill going up every year. The Mets can do whatever they want, but I don’t think this has a happy ending.
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Yeah Clip I’m pretty sure it is faux concern from most people.
Cody1981
It’s easy to spend money you have ..baseball needs to share all the local tv money equally ..then things will change
kahnkobra
dodgers, yankees
bigdaddyt
Wait until inflation hits stadium vendors. All of a sudden that 12 dollar tall boy is gonna be 20, parking, food and booze together before your tickets gonna be like 200
Nothing
I’m not angry at Cohen at all for being committed to his team and trying to use his financial capabilities to bring a World Series title to NY, he clearly really loves his team. I’m frustrated that the league is set up in a way that allows this to happen.
As you mentioned, this was never meant to be a salary cap, and I think that’s the issue. As much as the players union doesn’t want in, the league needs a salary cap. But, it also needs a salary floor, to force teams such as the A’s and Pirates to spend a bit more, because yes, they do hurt the sport as well.
As for whether or not the Mets spending like this is “hurting” the sport, I don’t think that can be determined yet. They could easily choke in the first round again, and nobody would bat an eye. But if the Mets, however unlikely, won back to back rings, everyone would lose their minds.
IMO the best version of the league is one where most if not all teams have a near identical payroll in the $170-$200M range, although I don’t think we’ll ever see that.
VonPurpleHayes
@rct I agree that a lot of owners should be spending more, but at some point, how much is too much? If one team is spending close to double what the 2nd highest team is spending, we have a serious issue with the sport.
Yankee Clipper
Don, I agree with you. I think there are issues we can’t correct because so many are focused on only one end of the spectrum.
I have ideas about how they can help with this issue that go directly to the spending habits of these big teams, but for it to be effectual, the poor habits of the teams hoarding money need to be effectively addressed as well.
BlueJ’sAllDay
It’s not about the fact that Cohen is super rich and can afford this. It’s about the fact to have a thriving league you need all teams to have a fighters chance. It’s not good for the league period, so I’m not sure what delusional world you’re living in. It’s the reason other pro leagues have gone to a hard cap. Not a bad place for yourself to be sitting back as a Yankees fan in the top tier of spending annually and be all good with it. If a 100 million payroll is meant to try and compete against a 400 million payroll every year, I’m sorry but that’s totally unacceptable when you want fans from every team to become excited about their team.
LonnieB
Just cause you spend money doesn’t give you a ring so I agree. Let the man spend all his money.
Sunday Lasagna
Well written Clipper, totally agree
Yankee Clipper
TJ: It’s like the new rich dude in a ‘Vette just pulled up to your high school girl and asked if she wanted a ride home…..
I think a lot of people are afraid that they’re team is going to be beat because Mets are acquiring all these players. I understand it. But acquisitions in the offseason translate to nothing guaranteed, man. Look at the big spenders last season – all gone early. Their cap compliance isn’t making a difference for the Pirates or the Marlins or even the Giants at this stage.
Cohens_Wallet
So the Mets were behind the curve in the Wilpon days but now ahead of the curve in the Cohen days. Everything evens out eventually, heck, the Royals beat the Mets in the world series lol.
larkraxm
No matter how money is shared, some owners will spend that shared money and others will put in their pocket. That should be an owner’s choice. The players should get whatever they can for their job, just like all of us. Salary caps protect owners from themselves at the player’s expense. World Series titles aren’t for sale.
shine7on
we had the wilpons for years. a #1 market and couldn’t spend. .We got madoffed. now the mets so happen to have the wealthiest owner who is also a lifelong fan. Dodgers and Padres do spend. The sox did for years and the yankees spent a ton relative to the league for years. Again the mets didn;t go nuts they merely filled old holes after 3 SP were done and maintained their. homegrown CFer. Its hardly trying to buy a championship. To this point they haven’t added a thing.
User 401527550
That’s never going happen.
Yankee Clipper
Vladdy: Identical payroll doesn’t yield equal results. That’s the point, my friend. Baseball already has the most parity. These other sports with caps don’t. They have super teams and dynasties already. And the same teams go to the playoffs year after year. The only reason NFL is even close is because half the league gets in
So again, I’m okay with limiting spending if it achieves something, but to what end, because the parity argument isn’t true. It’s a false equivalency?
It’s always, “parity.” I get that, but it doesn’t achieve it, so why bother?
shine7on
They added more playoff spots. that takes care of everyone’s chances. mets won 101 games, so did braves. an 85 win team won the pennant. go figure. if you can;t be in the hunt with the expanded playoffs for a period of 5 years, I don’t care what your budget is, you are not a competent front office. Every team should have a fighting chance regardless of budget to be playing meaningful games in September.
larkraxm
Just because the Yankees spend a lot of money, it doesn’t equal Championships. The Royals have more World Series victories than the Yankees and Mets combined since 2010, and the same amount as the Dodgers. The Yankees paying Jacoby Ellsbury $153 million didn’t hurt the Brewers.
hiflew
Because it makes for an unfair playing field. I agree that the A’s and Pirates should spend more, there definitely should be a salary floor. I don’t believe the floor should be as high as some think. I would be fine with a $140MM floor and maybe a $200MM cap and make it a real cap.
This is not a case of a business spending more money on his business. This is all about making a fair product for fans. One team spending 10 times the salary of other teams is just insane.
padam
@von – remember the days of the Yankees when free agency began and they signed every single star? Catfish. Reggie. Winfield. He’ll, even Don Gullett. There wasn’t another team that could compete with them. At least today there’s other teams who can spend and compete. And all of these signings don’t necessarily equal success, which would be any Mets fans concern. We saw what it did to the Yankees, and their dynasty was built from within holistically. Not sure all this activity is a good thing.
hiflew
You say a $12 tall boy as if it isn’t an inflated price.
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Tall boys are already 20+ at Dodger stadium. What really kills me are the $12 sodas though.
shine7on
He’s a SF Giant so moot point now.
BlueJ’sAllDay
Last year 9 of the top twelve spending teams made the playoffs. Stop kidding yourself if you think money spent doesn’t matter. Once you get into the postseason in a short series then there’s a lot of factors that can change a series not necessarily related to payroll. But the big spenders are continuously getting there year after year to get the chance. Something needs to change. When you have an owner like Cohen so rich he is prepared to operate his club at a net loss financially to try and win, well I can guarantee you there are only a handful of teams willing to do that. Most owners would like to own a team and still turn a profit. Just like any other business owner on the planet. Something is not right here and eventually it will turn off much of the small market fan bases.
Eric05216969559
The Nhl would be definition of parity and how a salary cap and floor keep vast majority of league competitive… The MLB is DOMINATED by the top half of spenders every single year basically, and is only getting worse. With the coast teams having insane bidding wars and snatching up all the top free agents every year now. It’s going to get worse and worse unless something changes. The Mets payroll at 350 million is insane and I believe almost a 100 million more than next closest team. And you saying a cap doesn’t equal more parity is beyond ignorant lmao .
Eric05216969559
Please explain to me how teams having to spend about the same wouldn’t create more parity????
VonPurpleHayes
@padam The early days of Free Agency were also full of collusion where all teams agreed not to sign marquee FAs. It’s funny how the steroid era is still correctly frowned upon, but those collusion years were arguably a bigger scandal.
rct
@bigdaddyt: “Wait until inflation hits stadium vendors. All of a sudden that 12 dollar tall boy is gonna be 20, parking, food and booze together before your tickets gonna be like 200”
Your issue is with fans who are willing to pay that money, not the people who are charging it.
rct
@Von: I’m actually in agreement with you. One (or a few) teams spending way more than the others is not a good thing for the sport. But what do you do? If you penalize Cohen for spending, or put in a cap, you’re A) catering to the teams who refuse to spend and B) taking money away from the players.
As an example, if Cohen wasn’t giving Max or Verlander $43 million a season, who would? What would their contracts have looked like? How much smaller would their contracts have been? And yeah, it’s hard to feel sympathy for those guys because they already have a ton of money, but then where does your sympathy lie? With owners like Bob Nutting or John J. Fisher?
The penalties for exceeding the luxury tax are pretty severe. If Cohen’s willing to go beyond them, then that’s his problem.
I actually think the NBA system is a little better. Bird rights, a salary floor (with whatever money you don’t spend below the floor getting disbursed between the players on your roster). The luxury tax penalties in the NBA blow MLB’s out of the water, but no one really complains like they complain about baseball teams spending. The Golden State Warriors are spending $483 million on payroll and luxury tax penalties this season. Mets are not close to that and yet, all this hand-wringing.
VonPurpleHayes
@shine7on 87 win team. but I get your point
VonPurpleHayes
@rct I’m with you here. I think Cohen is doing some good in that he’s exposing that owners could and should be spending a lot more, but that 4th tax tier should be more of a deterrent. A cap won’t work, but perhaps steeper penalties when a repeat lux tax offender hits those higher tiers. Perhaps losing draft picks or something. I’m not sure there’s an easy solution here. I certainly don’t feel bad for the teams that don’t spend at all, but those teams like the Brewers and Twins who show signs of spending cannot possibly keep up with the Cohens of the world, and it’s bad for the game that they miss out on all this talent. I say give it a few years, but if Cohen continues going over all tiers of the tax, something needs to give. At the end of the day, this Correa story was just smoke thankfully.
Yankee Clipper
Because there’s no evidence to back it up. There’s more parity in baseball than *all other leagues*. How do you reconcile that with your statement?
Yankee Clipper
Blue Jays all Day: Yes, but as my primary point affirms you’re picking one factor out of many, but it’s *proven* to not make the difference you suggest. I respect your opinion but there’s no founded premise for it.
– Back to baseball: Your assertion that teams that spend more *may* hold weight, but in the lower 15, many *refuse to spend and improve* ie, Oakland A’s.
Hypothesis needs to be changed because yours proves nothing. You’re going about this backwards. Why force teams to get worse and contribute less to the market? Don’t stifle. First, you need to figure out if those several teams tanking at the bottom can contribute.
There are always going to be teams that make it and teams left out. One more time: EVERY SINGLE SPORT HAS LESS PARITY THAN BASEBALL, yet they ALL have caps. That’s counterintuitive to your point.
Show me evidence, I’ll support it, but I’ve attached several articles disproving that spending (alone) equals winning and that caps make no difference in parity.
phenomenalajs
The Correa story may be what drove the Giants to give their final offer. I think eventually there will be a floor and a cap. They could both have 2% escalators per year for the duration of the CBA. For example, if $100M is too high to be the initial floor for some teams, it could start at $81M and work its way to $100M by the end of the CBA.
This one belongs to the Reds
It has already started but the big market boys don’t care that it is killing the game as long as they get theirs.
User 401527550
The NHL has less parity then any sport out there. Why would you use them as your example?
larkraxm
If spending money doesn’t equal championships, then why is it “just insane”. I just told you, the Royals have more WS rings in the last 13 years than Yankees and Mets combined. Let the Angels pay Pujols and Rendon. Let the Yankees eat Donaldson’s $25 million. That helped the Twins. Let the Dodgers eat Bauer’s deal instead of the Reds. Why should baseball players be subject to your fairness standard but not any other worker on the planet. Cohen’s wild spending reminds me of early Steinbrenner. Paying Danny Tartabull resulted in zero rings. Developing a young core together Jeter, Pettitte, Posada, Bernie, Rivera, resulted in a dynasty.
Al Hirschen
And the best part .The Mets haven’t lost a draft pick signing free agents
put it in the books
How have they dominated free agency? They lost deGrom and Walker and replaced them with Verlander on a 2 year deal and Senga and Quintana. They have no contracts out over $100m except to retain their own players in Nimmo and Diaz but again still lost Bassitt and Walker and deGrom. They had half their roster enter the free agent market at the same time. They didn’t give out any 11 year $300m deals.
Lloyd Emerson
Who has signed more players than the Mets?
Evil_MrM
Who NEEDED to sign more players than the Mets? They lost 3/5 of their starting staff and most of their bullpen to free agency. This was just the cost of replacing those players.
kahnkobra
so it’s ok for the Padres to do it but not the mets
VonPurpleHayes
The Padres, Phillies and Rangers have spent a ton, but none are close to the Mets.
YourDreamGM
Mets signing him would be good for the league. Many hate the Yankees and Astros. Another mega villain will be great. All 3 teams will make playoffs so if your team doesn’t you may watch at the very least world series to root against them. Owners will enjoy the tax money as well.
I enjoy trades so the Mets signing everyone is great for me.
shine7on
Not really though. Who have the Mets added?
1.) They lost Degrom because they got outbid. they signed Verlander as a replacement of what they already had and did so for les money than degrom.
2.) They lost Basset and Tijuan Walker. Both former All-stars. so they got Senga and Quintana.. They literally had to fill 3 SP spots because they lost 3 SP that are all good to varying degrees. SO they gained nothing, they merely filled holes with equal ability to what they had.
3.) they merely Resigned Nimmo, who was theirs his whole career. So they haven’t added a single thing. Adding Correa would be their only offseason offensive upgrade, while their pitching was merely replacements.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
43.3 million is a lot more than 37 million, not a lot less.
phenomenalajs
True, but $185M is a lot more than $86.6M.
#1WhiteSoxFan
Why not?
Carter86
Sign Correa and Rodon. What’s another 400 million anyway.
Joe Kerr
probably closer to 500 between those 2. we shall see
goob
Closer to another $500M.
jawinks
More smoke than fire says the article
NMK 2
As a Met fan, I’ve got nothing.
j_butte
As a Braves fan, you guys need to win something. Might as well be the off-season.
Evil_MrM
They won a share of first place this year.
Gratefuljim
How many chokes from Braves after division wins. The Braves are all Colonels as in Colonel Sanders, they choke on chicken bones and big games more than not.
VonPurpleHayes
I’m not even a Braves fan, but 2021 wasn’t that long ago. Mets and Phils are spending a ton to do what the Braves just did.
User 401527550
The Braves have won 4 championships in 147 years. The Mets have won 2 in 60 years. Let’s not get carried away with how the Braves haven’t gotten bounced from many postseasons too.
VonPurpleHayes
Who cares? They keep making the postseason.
User 401527550
They have made the postseason 24 times in 147 years and the Mets 10 in 60. Again not sure what the point is. They go to the playoffs about the same rate.
Flanster
That would be just ridiculous. And I’m a Mets fan!!
Huck 3
I’ll take ridiculous. We’ve been in ownership hell for decades. Let the money fly!
Cohens_Wallet
@ Huck3
100% brother
Yankee Clipper
I’m happy for you guys. Let the man improve his team. It’s their money.
ham77
That’s just stupid.
case
I’m not sure if fascinating is the correct adjective for this.
Milwaukee-2208
Mets will find some way to lose
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Lol Mets
Evil_MrM
#lolmets have been dead for 3 years, try to keep up with the rest of us.
rct
From a. . .Brewers fan? I guess game recognizes game.
YourDreamGM
Old pitcher’s and or a non elite bullpen aren’t good for playoffs.
falkensmaze
For years, we’ve had the Wilpons spending nothing. Always using their coupons. Now everyone is angry cause the Mets have an owner will unlimited money lol
Mets fans deserve this! Haha
jt33nym
Exactly. So many people complained about owners not spending money on improving their teams and here’s an owner that does that. Maybe not quite at Cohen’s level, but every MLB owner has plenty of money
YourDreamGM
Half the teams can’t afford to spend to the tax. Many of those under 150 million.
VonPurpleHayes
Yes. The Wilpons never signed marquee FAs…come on now…I know the last few years were frustrating, but overall the Wilpons spent a fair amount. Perhaps not as much as a NY franchise should, but let’s not act like the Mets were this poor rinky dink franchise that wasn’t able to acquire Cespedes, Santana, Martinez, Delgado and countless other marquee players.
BringToughnessBack
It is time for a hard salary cap. This is getting to be ridiculous.
DonOsbourne
Or……Just let this play out and see how it works. The Mets haven’t won anything yet. I’m interested to see what happens if they don’t win a WS inside Cohen’s projected timeline.
Yankee Clipper
I agree wholeheartedly Don. These are self-correcting issues. Mets cannot spend like this every year because there are only so many positions on the field. And, eventually, other markets just won’t match, so they will just inflate their own market.
I always revert back to precisely what you said: who cares if he spends his money? They haven’t won a WS since ‘86. They haven’t even made the NLCS yet!
Cohen is a business man and will not keep spending free money. I’m willing to bet if he spends like this and it doesn’t work, you’ll not see a repeat. He will be back under within three years.
NMK 2
Whether I agree with the business model, to think he isn’t making money and earning good will with the fanbase to earn more money in the future is sheer foolishness. The team is suddenly aggressive and very competitive under his leadership; 101 wins in a season is impressive.
He definitely wants the Commissioner’s Trophy, but he’s gotta be making bank along the way.
Huck 3
Which shows how much the other owners are socking away.
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Exciting time to be a Met’s fan!! I would be ecstatic if I was one.
Led Hoyer
If the Mets can actually turn a profit with a 500 million dollar payroll, kudos. The other 29 owners better up their game.
goob
I was surprised when it was reported the other day, that the Commissioner could refuse to allow a contract that runs beyond a certain number of years in order to lower it’s AAV. I mean, I’d have thought that would be seen as eventually self-correcting too.
Evil_MrM
Well, that is the plan. Cohen took over a poorly run franchise with a horrible farm system. The team will cut spending once the farm system starts producing, hopefully in a couple of years. That’s why all of the contracts (save for home-grown Brandon Nimmo) are all short-term.
VonPurpleHayes
That’s the sensible plan, but Cohen doesn’t strike me as patient. I can see him signing marquee FA every year and trading the farm to acquire shiny new toys. So far so good, but thd jury is still out on Cohen.
jwt421
Last year was a pretty good indicator to me on how he plans to operate. They certainly didn’t trade the farm at the deadline despite holding a slim division lead and having holes to fill. As others have pointed out, free agent signings to date have merely been to get back to the status quo of fielding a team with so many leaving. In reality, the long-term commitments were to two players already there in 2022.
This whole episode smells like a Boras maneuver to me to get the Giants to commit to signing a long-term contract for his client. Because Cohen has the resources, any implication that he’s in on a free agent is plausible.
Kapler's Coconut Oil
I would much rather have all owners be as willing to spend as Cohen. If all owners were as invested in their team’s success and star power as the Mets, Padres, Dodgers and Phillies then free agency would be a lot more interesting and significantly less dominated by the same 5-6 teams.
bootsday29
I wish the Cubs would spend like that
Mrsuntan
And a hard floor. Take the amount spent this year and divide by number of teams. Say it comes out to 150 average so each team must spend at least 2/3 (100 million) floor. The max would be 2/3more (250 million)with no penalty. there would still be a divide but within reason. And the players still make as much money, its just spread out different
larkraxm
I suppose you would accept a salary cap imposed on you and your profession. Why should the owners be protected from themselves??
Mrsuntan
Its the same amount of money!.just split different, it can go up 5% peryear. And dont pull that i support the owners crap. I support the sport.maybe i should ask you why you support the rich players who make more in a year then you will in your lifetime,but i wont ask that because thats not the point
This one belongs to the Reds
Most businesses have a minimum and maximum for each level of employee so your argument don’t hold weight.
larkraxm
All the owners getting together to suppress salaries is against the law in most cases. It would be called collusion if this were meat packers. It takes two…one to offer the contract and one to accept it. If the owners didn’t feel like they would get ROA on a contract, then don’t offer it. I support rich athletes because they are workers. They exchange labor for money. I don’t feel sorry for the owner that offers a contract, and I especially don’t feel sorry for the teams and owners that don’t. If your owner doesn’t think that there is sufficient ROA on a player, then pass.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Just Correa? Why not Swanson, too?
Yankee Clipper
This might be excellent for baseball. He’s going to sign so many people that they will be DFAing $35MM/year players and the Pirates or whomever else will get them for league minimum. Plus, looks like the Mets won’t be drafting anyone until 2045 at this rate.
Miken31
The Mets haven’t signed a single free agent that was offered a qualifying offer. They have all of their draft picks. Their own first round draft pick goes down 10 slots. That’s all. Plus, they actually get supplemental pics for losing deGrom and Bassitt.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I’m also pretty sure they aren’t DFAing any high-priced acquisitions either. I was kidding.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Yeah, Robinson Cano should not lose his Mets record for being DFA’d with only a $24 million/year contract too soon.
jwt421
It will take a while. Perhaps 7-9 years when the current copy of 11-13 year contracts start to look terrible.
Led Hoyer
They have a ton of picks in the first four rounds. Someone posted it on Twitter earlier, it’s actually pretty remarkable.
Padres2019ha
Muck the Fets!
gfan
Nah I’m still a Duck the Fodgers guy.
But gotta admit it’s catchy.
jvent
Stealing headlines I think , I doubt that they’re going to sign another $30 something mill player, unless they trade Carrasco, Escobar, Canha and McCann now, put McNeil in LF, Baty at 3b, Infield can be Alonso, Correa , Lindor, Baty and Alvarez, OF: McNeil,Nimmo and Marte
Larry Bernandez 1324IM
Still good for 3rd place in the N.L. East
cards81
This is becoming a who’s d!ck is bigger contest among these billionaires
Padres2019ha
Yeah but he still ain’t hittin it right
BeansforJesus
You know Steve is packing a tic tac and two runts.
He probably pays his wife’s boyfriends well.
Evil_MrM
…not to mention the posters here.
BeansforJesus
NBA style Dream Team being made by the Mets.
I don’t hate the Mets, but id never want this team to win a World Series. And yes, part of it is because I’m petty and jealous. The other part is the huge, delicious helping of schadenfreude there would be from a 1/2 billion dollar team owned by a multi-billionaire that still can’t buy what he wants.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Your honesty is a breath of fresh air.
Huck 3
Ah yes, and you’ve been moaning about the Yankees spending for decades, right?
BeansforJesus
I root against them as well. Not really a moan, more of a grumble.
chicagofan1978
They’re interested cause their owner liked a tweet saying they should sign him
bobbyvwannabe
I’d love Correa at 3B if he’s willing.
YourDreamGM
Beats going back to Minnesota on the opt opt out deal.
YankeesBleacherCreature
At this rate, Lindor will be a bench player and backup catcher. Let’s not forget about Conforto too.
bigdaddyhacks
Good! Do it. Then in 3 years they have a 500mil payroll when they have to pay Alonso.
rct
And McNeil.
thatsright
$86M worth of pitching comes off the books soon. Don’t worry, it’s hard to keep a $500M payroll.
rct
They could just give Ohtani $400 million a year.
rodcarew
You can win the offseason but regular season is a bit trickier.
j27roenick
Might want to consider changing this headline to “Boras Manipulates Media Into Fake Story Designed To Drive Up Cost Of Signing His Client For 50th Consecutive Year”.
WAR overrated... shows how bad is the replacement? Assigned by?
I’m sure you’re 100% right and correct. He should have employees with a few accounts here writing comments too, and advertising WAR as a main, objective and isolated all inclusive advance metric. They sure say hr, rbi, injuries, cheating, disrespect to HOF members like Jeter,and big mouth are overrated or dependant on external factors like not challenging batters with fast ball up to the middle of the plate, etc.
FenwayFanatic
Why
Edp007
Y’all think Cohen is gonna find 50-100 mill every year to cover deficit OR is there enough money in mlb to sustain a 400-500 mill payroll.
If u think Cohen throwing away money for fun to win. I’d like to know.
MLB is flush with cash. Revenues through the roof. Just tipping point in salaries.
YourDreamGM
Spending his own money. Tax breaks make it much less than it appears though. Dodgers with their tv deal could handle 400 million though.
This one belongs to the Reds
GM, and that’s the point many make. The local TV deals give the big market boys more income they can spend on salaries.
Cash Considerations
Cohen could spend 4 billion in payroll and still lose to the Braves.
But all jokes aside, it’s an Interesting experiment to see just how many dollars it takes to buy a championship. If it can be done at all. Could spend and spend but go cold in October and it’s all for not.
John Bird
The Dodgers have been trying this for years with limited success.
YourDreamGM
230 million spent wisely almost guarantees a playoff spot. No amount of money guarantees victory in a 3 5 or even 7 game series. Mets didn’t even get max value out of their 400 500 million. If they did or ever well they would significantly increase their odds.
Kevin28786
They’re still looking up at the Braves until proven otherwise.
Yankee Clipper
And the Braves are even better now, imho, especially with the Murphy acquisition.
Evil_MrM
As a Mets fan, I have to give the Braves props for putting a competitive team together year after year. But, the Mets and Braves each won the same number of games, so NY is really not looking up at them anymore, are they?
VonPurpleHayes
They lost the tie-breaker and technically would still have to look up at the Braves division-winning flag.
jwt421
Same here. On the other hand, the Braves are the poster child for showing just how hard it is to win a World Series. For the past 32 years, the Braves have won the division 20 times, been in the playoffs 22 times, been in the World Series 6 times (5 of them in the 90s), and have 2 championships.
So for all the foaming at the mouth and gnashing of teeth by many on this thread, all the Mets are buying is increasing their odds of being in the playoffs and having a shot at a World Series. They will fall short the majority of the time.
As a fan, I envy the Braves consistency and hope to see a similar run during Cohen’s tenure.
YourDreamGM
It’s basically a coin flip now. Phillies are in it as well but maybe slightly less odds.
bobbyvwannabe
Nimmo
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
McNeil
Correa
Alvarez (DH)
Canha
McCann
Joe Kerr
Correa is not a 6 hitter in any lineup, this one included.
Led Hoyer
That lineup doesn’t actually look that scary. The rotation on the other hand.
chemfinancing
this would be very mets esq
vikingbluejay67
Cohen almost single handily forcing MLB to table a salary cap in the next CBA negotiations in the future.
YankeesBleacherCreature
A hard salary floor too, please. As it currently stands, the tax Cohen will be paying is covering the entire payroll of several individual teams. It’s a damn welfare system.
YourDreamGM
Good luck getting the players to sign off on this. Doubtful owners could agree. Why would large markets want to give poor markets more of their money? Third of teams can’t currently spend 150 million while another third are approaching 300 million. Poor teams won’t approve a floor unless rich teams give them more money.
This one belongs to the Reds
Unless local TV deals are shared, small markets can’t afford the floor most likely. Assuming they would adopt the NFL floor model.
10centBeerNight
It’s….remarkable if true. One thing about NYM base: many of them are clinically deranged, but you would be hard pressed to find one more loyal. The history is rather nuts. Original owner who adored the team and its relationship with the city dies (RIP) and leaves team to her kids who couldn’t give a crap. They instruct GM to trade all the expensive players and send team into a 6 year vortex. Post 80s glory years, team hires essentially an accountant for GM and he sends team into a 6 year vortex of horrific trades, FAs and managerial hires. Fast forward to this millennium, owners are taken in a Ponzi scheme. Fan base has waited a long time for this moment. An owner that wants to win and is willing to do what it takes. I still don’t think this happens tho. Mets and Yankees are clickbait. #1 population market
clrrogers
Holly crap. Smdh
Yankee Clipper
I see Correa’s team using this (whether it’s true or not) as a means to get more money. I think he’s going to return to MN or perhaps the Giants.
Thomar
Probably leaked by Correa’s camp to panic other teams
Bill
It worked.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Next Steve has to sign Swanson. Then Swanson, Correa and Lindor can suit up as gladiators before every game and fight to see who plays shortstop that night. The fans will love it. And after the winner is determined, Steve can walk out to the pitcher’s mound in an emperor’s robes and ask: “Are you not entertained?!?”
Yankee Clipper
Steve has so much money he’s sitting in the bathtub and laughing at his fart bubbles over this, cause it could now happen.
Poster formerly known as . . .
I believe the technical term is “farbs.”
Gwynning
Wake me when the chariot races begin… or you see the grape, wine and cheese vendor.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
They should make teams pay triple penalty past a certain threshold and forfeit a first rounder each 10 million they go above. It carries to the next year and would perhaps then just cut into the draft pool at that point.
DonOsbourne
Be careful what you ask for. Your own team is on a collision course with the luxury tax.
NMK 2
And somehow, the Rangers are still not on a collision course with a playoff appearance.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Well, in fairness, NMK, the latest round of big spending only started last year.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Texas is at 160 million or so with deGrom, given Atlanta is paying 10 million for Odorizzi and deGrom this year is at 30 million due to the nature of the contract. They dumped 30 million in dead weight with Odor, Andrus, and guys like Calhoun/Richards. They are nowhere near this Cohen level. I am not saying the penalty should apply at 220 something. It should be the last tier. I know Rangers fans are delusional brats who demand Rodon and Reynolds, etc, but they are nowhere near that level. The Pérez deal was am overpay, and so were the Gray and Semien ones. Still, this is like signing Correa and Seager the same offseason. Where does Lindor play now? How about Correa?
Poster formerly known as . . .
Your screen name kicks ass.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Is this a compliment or insult?
Poster formerly known as . . .
Compliment, absolutely. I get the Chuck Norris reference.
Hurricane Sandy
I’m a little confused why the angriest fans in this thread are: Rangers fans who just sunk $700 million dollars(!!!) into THREE players – including snatching away a generational Mets pitcher, and Blue Jays fans: whose owner is worth $11.5 Million dollars and have dumped tons of money into a 3rd place team for decades.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Chill. I am not angry and I am only 1 fan. Besides, the Mets spend 700 million over 2 seasons. That’s different from spending that over 10.
Cleon Jones
Mets will sign Correa, trade Lindor to Padres for Tatis, then Tatis to Cards for Arenado, sign Rodon, then move 1/2 of their top 15 Minor leaguers for Pablo Lopez.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Somebody’s going to end up on the wrong plane.
DaOldDerbyBastard
Both hilarious comments.
Edp007
Salary cap sucks. Losing cities with cheap billionaire owners , ya gotta suck it up.
This is life in America Baseball or economy in general. New York LA Chicago etc drive the economy. The big dollars.
Big markets don’t spend and flourish , there’s no crumbs for you bottom feeder cheap billionaires.
nando390
Just buy the Marlins and make them your triple a team while you’re at it Cohen
Huck 3
Been done before. The Cleveland Spiders owners bought the St Louis franchise, and sent their best players over there, including Cy Young. The Spiders only lasted one more year, winning only 20 games, losing 134. They were competitive before that.
Thomar
They signing Sid Fernandez too?
ExileInLA 2
So then McNeil leaves after 2023 and Correa moves to 2B while Baty plays 3B…or McNeil and Alonso sign extensions making the first $200mm position player lineup, to go along with the $200mm pitching staff that we’ll end up with!
Rsox
Its called there is zero market for Correa so Boras needs to create one. Using the free-spending Mets hoping someone else will panic spend trying to block them from signing him.
In reality the spectre of 2017 must still loom large over Correa because we have heard very little in the way of interest while we’ve at least heard of the Braves, Cubs, Red Sox, and Giants having interest in Dansby Swanson
Rsox
Apparently it worked since the Giants just gave him a 13 year deal
SaoMagnifico
At some point, 29 other owners say “enough is enough” and then things get interesting.
Cubs in STL
I honestly would just feel bad for Baty. They give your job away you’ve been working for 3 years to earn to a dude that compares himself to a woman’s handbag…
Edp007
Yankee Clipper btw makes an excellent point btw. It is why eventually almost all teams over time go down in the standings and then up. Even the rich teams. There’s only so many players. Once teams tie down their roster with high priced players. They’re done for a while. Other teams get the next batch. It’s forever fluid.
dpsmith22
Same teams over and over. But Manfred says we have parity so it must be true…
metsie1
Personally I don’t think the Mets are seriously going to make a move for Correa. This reeks of Boras trying to get things moving. However, most of the comments here are laughable and misguided. The Mets have basically replaced deGrom, Bassit, Ottavino, and Taijuan Walker with Verlander, Senga, Raley and Quintana. They’ve basically lost as much as they have gained. Nimmo, by the way, is a homegrown Mets player. Resigning him was important but he is Mets player.
The misguided part is how about some of these cheap ass, deadbeat organizations like Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Miami, Washington and so on start spending some of their money? All those teams are worth billions and their Owners are also ridiculously wealthy. Stop crying about Cohen spending.
angt222
Mets should maybe look to beef up the bullpen first.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Agreed, their bullpen might be the worst in the MLB right now
VonPurpleHayes
While I think it’s a slight weakness, Robertson was a decent get. Senga also moves Megill into the pen. I think they will add more pen depth, but it’s hardly the worst bullpen out there. They cab roll with it and be fine.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@VonPurpleHayes Megill is not a reliever, he was terrible last year as one. Hes Triple A depth and a back up starter if one goes down
Mario93
The games are played on the field… It will just become a joke if they don’t win, and win big at that. It will truly become a clown show. NY media will have a field day. Obviously you’d rather spend than not spend, but with the New York media, they better win, man. They better win. And if they underperform, it’s going to get ugly.
Blue Dude
Especially since the Dodgers let it be known that they will not attempt to sign him . I do see the Correa camp inventing false news to have better leverage in money and years…..Also you hear more teams are more interested or as far as the market heating up for Swanson who is considered the lesser SS.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Espn claims Cohen only owns 95% of the Mets. The other 5 percent must be pissed. They should sell off their share immediately.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I believe the Wilpons own the 5% remaining stake.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
They did, as of 2020, apparently. I hope they don’t still.
Yankee Clipper
Honestly, I thought about that too, Ranger. I wonder if he made some type of agreement with the shareholders to pay for the overages himself or somehow reimburse losses through some type of shares or something, so they’re like, “no luxury tax for us? Sign everybody!”
VonPurpleHayes
I own the other 5% of the Mets, which is really just a very small portion of the “t.” I use it as a coat rack.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
I don’t want Correa. Dude is sneaky and vastly overated. Hes basically a tall version of Lindor that plays half the amount of games. I don’t care what his WAR says, dude is not worth anything near what hes probably going to get paid. Hes really worth maybe 3 years at 50 million total but some dumb team will offer him over 300 million
DarkSide830
OML
DaOldDerbyBastard
Oh bullshift. As a Mets fan, ain’t no damn way.
Balk
Some are saying that the Giants offered 310 million to Correa on the bird app. Who knows.
Fozzie Bear
It’s starting to get upsetting with the “haves” spending crazy money in free agency. Instead of 5-6 teams not being able to compete for the top shelf free agents, we are now looking at only 5-6 being able to compete. The Player’s Association may not want a salary cap, but unless there is a change only the elite will be getting the crazy numbers and everyone else will get leftovers.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
To whomever can answer this: If the Mets dumped off their catcher McCann and 12.5 million a season, does his salary still count towards this threshold? If not, that may be an interesting “trade.”
damascusj
And they’ll still choke in October
Av8torr45
Correa signs with the giants 13 years..
Av8torr45
Also, they still have to pay the emotional polar bear sooner than later
DaOldDerbyBastard
Emotional? Is it bad to want to win?
Googolplex
All for naught. He’s signing with the Giants.
bjhaas1977
One hour for this BS to go poof!
JackStrawb
They can’t be serious. If you’re spending this kind of coin Carlos Rodon is infinitely more valuable to a team whose pitching limped to and collapsed at the finish line, and only got older this offseason.
Say Rodon’s AAV is $10m higher than Senga’s, and that Correa’s going for a $35m AAV.
Senga + Correa = Rodon +$25m, where the $25m is spent on a terrific bat, or could have locked down a Bogaert’s caliber 3Bman [what’s that you say? Correa is going to San Francisco? Ah. Never mind then.]
The Mets still need Rodon far more than they need Senga, and if they were willing to go to $30m plus for a 3Bman when they have three minor leaguers in the upper levels who might be able to play 3B in MLB, going cheap by getting Senga is plain weird,
What kind of shape do they think the oldest pitching staff in MLB is going to be in, come September?
Gratefuljim
Better than whomever your trolling for.
johns-11
And the majority would love this Cohen experiment to fail miserably LOL
larkraxm
And……They did!!
aragon
ha ha!
Dr2022
Well this is old news now, since Correa already signed with the Giants. For 13 years and 350, million.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I’ve alluded to this before that Cohen has a NYC casino license bid for Flushing, right next to Citifield. The Mets are his Siegfeld & Roy to the MGM and supporting properties he wants to build.
VonPurpleHayes
That casino would ruin the surrounding neighborhoods. But Cohen gets whatever he wants.
YankeesBleacherCreature
There is a new-ish Wynn Casino in Boston. MA takes a 25% cut on total gross revenues. That and jobs for the community. Legalized sports-betting in NY is also inevitable. Those NY’er funds have been funneled through NJ, PA, and CT forever. I do agree with you though.
DaOldDerbyBastard
It’s 2:20am ET. Mark the deal as done. He will be the Mets new 3rd baseman/DH on a very team friendly 2 year dea… He did what?
.
Hahahahahahahahaha
Cohens_Wallet
But this week, Thor Equities, a New York-based real estate firm, announced its $3 billion casino draft targeting Coney Island will involve three development partners, with one being Legends Hospitality. Legends is partially owned by the Steinbrenner family, which has famously controlled the New York Yankees since 1973
LarsAnderson
I bet the giants end up signing him.
Bill
Wow, going out on a limb there!
drewm
Not that interested apparently
Os fan in PA
This is a guy that through his 20’s averages about 122 GP/YR, what’s that average going to be in his 30’s?
WAR overrated... shows how bad is the replacement? Assigned by?
“that made sense…and not get crazy.” Steve Cohen.