We’re now over a month into the offseason and it’s been a strong one for the players, with many of the top free agents landing contracts that have surpassed expectations. While there’s been plenty of aggression from teams that haven’t traditionally been top dogs like the Mets, Padres and Rangers, the Dodgers have been unusually quiet so far.
The Dodgers opened the 2022 season with a payroll of $281MM, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts. At the end of the year, they had a large crop of players hit free agency, wiping a huge chunk of change off the books. Clayton Kershaw, David Price, Craig Kimbrel, Trea Turner, Tyler Anderson and Andrew Heaney were all making noteworthy money in 2022 before hitting the open market, with a few midseason pickups and role players departing as well. The Dodgers then cleared out even more money by non-tendering Cody Bellinger and his projected $18.1MM arbitration salary as well as declining Justin Turner’s $16MM club option for 2023.
With all of that, it was certainly a possibility that the club could come into the winter spending wildly and getting their payroll back up to last year’s levels. But while the free agents have been coming off the board with eye-popping deals, the Dodgers have largely been laying in the cut so far. Since the offseason began, the club has re-signed Kershaw and added Shelby Miller on one-year deals, for $20MM and $1.5MM, respectively. Those contracts have brought the club’s payroll for 2023 up to $173MM, per Roster Resource, with a competitive balance tax figure of $189MM.
That leaves the Dodgers plenty of room to work with, in a sense. That pure payroll figure is more than $100MM below what they carried last year and that CBT figure is more than $40MM shy of the lowest CBT threshold. It’s possible they are simply playing a long game, waiting for the frenzy of the early offseason to die down and searching for bargains later in the winter. But there are also reasons to suspect they might continue being fairly inactive.
For one thing, there’s the Trevor Bauer situation to consider. The club signed him to a three-year, $102MM deal going into the 2021 season, though Bauer only made 17 starts for them. He was placed on administrative leave in July 2021 while the league investigated assault allegations against him. In April 2022, he was given a two-year suspension, covering the final two years of his contract with the Dodgers. That suspension was without pay, wiping Bauer’s salary from the club’s commitments.
However, Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times recently wrote about Bauer’s attempt to appeal that suspension, with a decision from an arbiter expected either this month or next month. If the suspension were to be completely overturned, the Dodgers will have to pay him for both 2022 and 2023, a $32MM salary for each. That’s true even if the club immediately releases Bauer after that decision. That’s a decent amount of money in itself, but Shaikin points out the Dodgers were luxury tax payors this year and would potentially have to pay extra fees on Bauer’s reinstated salary as well. In terms of 2023, the club’s CBT figure would jump to over $220MM. Shaikin also points out it’s possible the suspension is merely reduced, which would leave the club on the hook for some but not all of that money.
That decision will have a big impact on the club’s financial outlook going forward, so it stands to reason they want to wait and get some clarity there before making huge commitments. There are also more traditional baseball reasons for playing the waiting game, though. The departure of those aforementioned free agents has created many holes in the roster, but they might be able to fill them internally with their strong crop of prospects. On Baseball America’s most recent top 100 list, the Dodgers featured seven players, six of them in the top 52 spots. MLB Pipeline also has seven Dodgers on their list. FanGraphs is a bit less bullish but still puts five young Dodgers in the top 100.
Not only are these prospects highly regarded around the sport, they mostly are close to the majors or already there. Right-hander Ryan Pepiot made his MLB debut in 2022 while fellow righties Bobby Miller and Gavin Stone reached Triple-A. Third baseman Miguel Vargas cracked the majors this year while second baseman Michael Busch spent most of the year in Triple-A. Outfielder Andy Pages isn’t far behind, having spent the year in Double-A. Catcher Diego Cartaya is a bit further away, having spent most of this season in High-A, but he fared well and will likely be in Double-A to start 2023.
It’s possible the club thinks it’s time to let these younger players step up and start folding over a new leaf. “Earlier in the last decade, we had a wave of young guys who were going to be real contributors,” Dodgers CEO Stan Kasten told Bill Plaschke of the Los Angeles Times last month. “We think we are now on the precipice of the next wave of young guys. We need to make room to allow that to happen.” That certainly suggests the club is willing to let their pricey free agents walk and attempt to replace them with younger and cheaper alternatives.
There’s no guarantee a prospect will come up and succeed at the major league level, no matter how high their praise among evaluators. But teams can’t build successful rosters through free agency alone and have to at least produce some talent from their own pipeline. There is certainly risk in trying to achieve that, but the Dodgers aren’t in a terrible place right now, on paper. Despite the many departures and modest activity thus far, the club’s overall projected WAR currently ranks sixth in all of baseball, according to FanGraphs.
The club will surely be looking to make improvements there, though how aggressive they will be is to be seen. It’s been suggested by some the team would like to stay under the luxury tax in 2023 in order to spend more aggressively next winter when Shohei Ohtani is likely to be the top free agent available. As a reminder, the CBT carries increasing penalties for clubs that pay it in consecutive seasons. The Dodgers have paid the tax in 2021 and 2022 and would be a third-time payor if they did so again in 2023. However, if they stayed under this year, they would reset and could cross the line again in 2024 as a “first-time” payor and significantly lower penalties. With so many contracts coming off the books and so many prospects ready to debut, it would seem now is a good time to flip that reset switch. But if that is indeed the plan, the Bauer decision will loom even larger. If the suspension is upheld, the club has over $40MM to work with before nearing the line, but the number is closer to $10MM if the decision is overturned.
Either way, there’s still plenty of talent currently on the roster. As mentioned, FanGraphs considers them the sixth-best club in the majors at the moment. The rotation is in decent shape with Kershaw, Julio Urías, Tony Gonsolin and Dustin May taking up four spots. There are some injury question marks with that group but it’s got a lot of upside. They also have the aforementioned prospects as options for the back-end and depth, with Pepiot, Miller and Stone in the mix. The bullpen has some exciting young pitchers in Evan Phillips, Alex Vesia and Brusdar Graterol.
There’s plenty of talent on the position player side as well, with many of them capable of moving around to other positions as needed. Will Smith is one of the best catchers in the game and will be behind the plate. The club is reportedly comfortable with Gavin Lux moving from second base to shortstop. Super utility guy Chris Taylor could take over the keystone for him. At the corners, Freddie Freeman will have first base spoken for while Vargas could get an extended audition at the hot corner. Max Muncy can spend some time at first, second and third while also acting as the designated hitter somewhat regularly. In the outfield, Mookie Betts will have one position spoken for while Trayce Thompson should have another. That leaves one spot open for either Busch or James Outman, a prospect a bit behind Busch on the rankings but one who’s posted huge numbers in the upper minors and has already made his MLB debut. There’s also the possibility Muncy takes over second base while Taylor spend significant time in the outfield.
If the club has $40MM to work with, there are plenty of ways for them to spread it around to improve the team while still leaving room for their younger players to take a step forward. Adding a starter would bump their prospects out of the top five but opportunities would surely come up throughout the year. Kershaw hasn’t been able to throw 130 innings in a season since 2019 due to various ailments. May just came back from Tommy John surgery late in 2022 and only made six starts on the year. Gonsolin jumped from swingman to starter but dealt with a forearm strain down the stretch. Even with a free agent addition, opportunities will undoubtedly arise for Pepiot, Miller and Stone.
The top remaining free agent starter is Carlos Rodón, who was predicted by MLBTR for a salary of $28MM but is reportedly looking for a seven-year deal and could theoretically take a lesser annual salary to max out his guarantee. The Dodgers usually prefer higher salaries and shorter terms but they could change their tune if they’re focused on their CBT hit in 2023. Even adding about $25MM for someone like Rodón would leave the club with room for other upgrades, so there isn’t really any starting pitcher they couldn’t fit into their plans in this scenario. Some of the other options available include Noah Syndergaard, Nathan Eovaldi and old friend Ross Stripling.
Adding an outfielder seems a possibility, as it was reported the club made a run at Kevin Kiermaier before he agreed to join the Blue Jays. If the club looks to other options, they likely won’t need to break the bank. The top options are already off the board with Aaron Judge and Brandon Nimmo each agreeing to rejoin their respective New York clubs. That leaves Andrew Benintendi as arguably the top guy left in this department. MLBTR predicted he would land a $54MM contract over four years, or $13.5MM per season.
The club could also pursue an infielder and bump Taylor into spending more time on the grass, perhaps with Lux staying at second. The top remaining option there is Carlos Correa, though it seems he’s not in the club’s plans. That leaves one other marquee option in Dansby Swanson, with a big drop down to less exciting options like Elvis Andrus, Jean Segura, Brandon Drury or Justin Turner. Swanson was predicted for a $22MM salary over seven years for a $154MM total, while those other names will surely come in under that.
There are plenty of enticing options in any of those paths, but the club would have to be willing to cross the luxury tax again in order to do all of them. If they are indeed planning on staying under, they will like have to make tougher choices about which of these areas are worth their investments and which are worth leaving open for the young ones. Staying under the tax wouldn’t completely hamper the club, as they would almost certainly go into the next season pegged by many for a postseason spot. But FanGraphs currently considers them the fourth-best team in the National League, behind the Braves and the hyper-aggressive Mets and Padres. A modest offseason could still leave the Dodgers in decent shape, but it could perhaps knock them off their pedestal as perennial favorites.
VonPurpleHayes
It’s wild that the Mets are going to be spending almost double what the Dodgers are.
BeforeMcCourt
And really, how many more games will the Mets win? Maybe 5? Maybe none?
Add in the Met’s tax bill and even if LA signed Rodon for a 28M AAV, the Mets commitments would still be more than double LA’s 2023 payroll
rct
While nothing is a lock, of course, the Dodgers figure to be a bit worse off in 2023. They are losing:
Trea Turner (4.9 WAR)
Justin Turner (2.0)
Cody Bellinger (1.2)
Tyler Anderson (4.3)
Chris Martin (1.0; traded midseason and now with the Red Sox)
Andrew Heaney (0.7)
David Price (0.7)
Some of their losses might be filled easily (like Gallo or Heaney or Price) but they also won’t have Walker Buehler as he recovers from TJ. They’re still an excellent team, but I would put them more in the high 90s in terms of wins vs their 111 from last year.
But yes, while perhaps the Mets currently look better on paper, the Dodgers will probably be around the same wins.
ForeverGiantsFan
I read Trea Turner’s war was over 13 last season.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
no NL player had a WAR in 2022 over 8.0.
avenger65
Price said he isn’t going to pitch in 2023.
JoeBrady
How well May replaces Anderson will determine the season.
puigpower
The Dodgers got back into the discussion back when Guggenheim took over by spending, and then built the farm up to make a sustainable model. I’m assuming this is a copycAt move.
amk1920
It’s wild after all that Mets spending the Dodgers still have a better lineup and bullpen.
Neon Cop
Destined for third place in the west. Maybe fourth if the Giants do something worthwhile.
Eric Ferrari
Dream on loser. The Dodgers have been the most consistent winner for 10+ years.
Oldguy58
Dodgers are the most consistent winner until the playoffs, then we get to enjoy watching the magic of Dave Roberts implode
Dodger Dogg
Still better than your team, oldguy58. Dodgers love abounds!
Neon Cop
Hang the banner now: Lots of Regular Season Wins!
Dodger Dogg
Go Big Blue!
ForeverGiantsFan
They won 111 games last season. They still are an excellent team.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The Dodgers will win at least 95 games in 2023, maybe 100. The Padres are going to have to take it to them to win the division.
avenger65
Maybe not winning 111 games next season will be the best thing that could happen for the Dodgers. Sure, the NLW will be tougher to win, but if they win the division without trying to break the single season record for victories and put their focus on the POs, they might win a series or two.
Jimbo_Jones
The padres pitching is a huge concern. The dodgers will be good if not very good. I’m sure one team in the NL west will be a surprise. My guess the dbacks
CommentsSectionCommenter
In what way did the Dodgers “try to break the single-season record for victories” last year, other than, ya know, showing up for all of their scheduled games and ultimately winning 111 of them? In what specific ways did their daily regular-season approach last year impact them in the postseason, which is the mother of all crapshoots and rewards precious little of what the sport demands of its teams across 162 regular-season games? (Hot teams win in October, but not necessarily that season’s “best” teams.)
If we’re going to MMQB last season and attempt to forensically examine what was “missing” that kept the Dodgers from advancing further, I would argue it starts with the fact that they didn’t play a meaningful game after the All-Star break. Their dominance in the division was such that it was theirs for MONTHS, and the NL bye was never really in doubt either (nor was the overall-best-record spot, in reality). How much did not playing with any sort of “edge”–which is just a concept–hurt them? Baseball is hard, and flipping a switch to “survival mode” isn’t an oft-practiced skill, and with a team full of vets who A) had great years and B) had track records to suggest they’d continue to crush it, the deflation felt real…but ultimately, may not have been? The Padres were a hot team; the Dodgers’ pitching was full of question marks (and still being managed by Roberts/the FO; and the big moments went SD’s way. That was that.
But I’d still rather the team I support, ya know…win its games.
VonPurpleHayes
I don’t see that happening. This squad is still good. 2nd at worst IMO. Still competing for 1st.
Manfred’s playing with the balls
Giants could sign all the free agents and still would finish out of the top 3
MLB Top 100 Commenter
No, the Giants just need one or two medium signings to likely finish third.
Saint Nick
I hate the Dodgers but there’s no way they finish 3rd. Probably another division title honestly.
amk1920
Because the Padres winning the offseason helped them in 2015 and 2021
damascusj
Well getting better players than what they had doesn’t hurt the padres. Yeah, they flopped. But you could argue that they would have flopped harder.
Now if you’re going to say the padres are going to flop again next season because of the moves they made, then that would be wishful thinking on your part, but highly unlikely
YourDreamGM
What makes you believe the dbacks or rockies will be better than the dodgers? That would be a impressive turn.
Neon Cop
Seems like Betts & Freeman got paid & don’t have that burning hunger to win another WS. Sure, they’ll excel in the regular season when the stakes are low, but the fact that both won a title with their original/“real” teams mellowed them out imo. I think LA’s window has mostly come & gone.
YourDreamGM
Except Betts played his Bett off in 2020 and was huge in them winning world series. They don’t win without his fantastic performance. Including elite hustling defense and base running.
Neon Cop
2020 isn’t worth discussing, let’s be honest.
mcdusty49
This guy is just a Dodgers troll and doesn’t offer any honest baseball insight just ignore him
mcdusty49
Supporting your own team is much more acceptable than trolling other team’s posts so you can get the attention you didn’t get from mommy as a child
CommentsSectionCommenter
@NeonCop
In what way’s did Betts’ and Freeman’s MVP-caliber seasons last year suggest that they lack a “burning desire to win another WS”?
amk1920
Betts wasn’t their problem in the playoffs and Freeman was by far their best hitter in that Padres series
Neon Cop
Simply observe the games — many people pointed out the team’s lack of fire…
CommentsSectionCommenter
You’re clearly a troll, so I’ll approach as such, but any world where you think the Giants finish ahead of the Dodgers in the West next year–based on where both teams sit, in terms of roster construction, payroll flexibility and recent history–is a fantastical one best left to Tolkien’s imagination (and he’s dead).
Neon Cop
RE Giants: you probably said the same thing before the 2021 season. Why is your opinion relevant at all? Clearly blinded by fandom.
Neon Cop
“ a fantastical one best left to Tolkien’s imagination (and he’s dead)”
Are you really this corny?
CommentsSectionCommenter
I’m sorry. What lowbrow, cliched metaphor does your little mind need to engage here?
Neon Cop
You really wrote “a fantastical one best left to Tolkien’s imagination (and he’s dead)” as a reply. Take the L, bum. Terminal cringe.
Samuel
Something is going on with the Dodgers, and I don’t think it’s
Shohei Ohtani.
Rsox
They know there is a very good chance they will have to Pay Bauer his remaining money. No criminal charges filed to justify suspending Bauer curiously for the remainder of his Dodger contract, which implies he is eligible to return to MLB after the ’23 season (unlikely as that seems). Manfred flexed a muscle he really doesn’t have (and no legal ground) and bought the Dodgers time, though it looks like that time may be up
YourDreamGM
Maybe they are tired of shredding money and losing prospects.
BlueSkies_LA
Only a very tiny chance.
JoeBrady
No criminal charges filed to justify suspending Bauer
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I cannot imagine the two-year suspension holding up. There is evidence to suggest that this is nothing more than rough s-x, evidence to suggest this is a shakedown, and evidence to suggest that Bauer is a nut job.
I think Manfred arranges settlements behind the scenes agreeable to both parties. And my guess is that it is more important to Manfred & the LAD that this simply disappears, than it is to Bauer. At this point, there is no downside to dragging this through the courts for years.
BlueSkies_LA
If you want to have an informed conversation about this, you have to do two things. First, look up the Joint Policy on Domestic Violence. It isn’t very long, and most of the important info is on the first page. Then, look up the Basic Agreement. This one is a lot longer, but the part you need to find is on appeals panels. Read up on who is on them. Since these are the documents controlling the outcome, if you don’t make an effort read them and understand what they say, then you are just spitballing.
As for a settlement, the player had ample opportunity to negotiate one during the initial investigation. This is what every other player who’s been penalized under the policy has done. Lots of activity is happening behind closed doors now, no doubt, but so far we’ve seen zero evidence that Bauer will accept any penalty for his actions. So even in the unlikely event that the appeals panel reduces his suspension, he won’t accept it.
After exhausting the administrative process, the only avenue left for him will be challenging the right of MLB and the MLBPA to create rules governing employment. The courts have taken a dim view of this argument historically but that doesn’t prevent the player from dragging baseball through the courts for years and clouding the issue. The stakes could be very high for both ownership and the players, so this is another place to think about how appeals panels are constructed and how it might influence the outcome.
StreakingBlue
I would sure hope that the Dodgers avoid Ohtani. I remember when he was first visiting teams after being poised to join a certain team that the Dodgers/Kershaw were kinda put off as Ohtani kinda used the Dodgers to get his $ up.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Teams want to win and make money, they get over it.
averagejoe15
This is absolutely baseless. Ohtani could only sign for international bonus pool money because he was below the age threshold to be an actual free agent like many Japanese players.
His signing was almost 0% about the money and much more about his strong preference to join both an AL and west coast team as well as a team committed to maximizing his time as a hitter and an SP.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I think Average Joe is right, check out baseball reference Ohtani got less than ten million for his first four years. (He gets $30 million for 2023)
baseball-reference.com/players/o/ohtansh01.shtml
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I also think Ohtani wanted a team with a DH and when he joined MLB that was only the AL but not anymore
JerseyShoreScore
Ohtani got very little in the way of salary. Angels paid around $3 million bonus and league minimum salary to Ohtani. Doubtful he was using the Dodgers for much of a salary bump.
longines64
They’ll figure it out…
BeforeMcCourt
Hilarious how fast Neon shows up on every dodger thread to say the dodgers are horrible. Yet every reputable site still has them as a playoff team with one of the best farms in baseball. Hmm
damascusj
Like neon is always there to dump on the dodgers, there’s McCourt there to massage the dodgers testicles
mcdusty49
And there’s damascusj massaging Neon’s
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Bauer’s suspension will not be reduced. Never going to happen. And secondly, I’m cool with the Dodgers taking the 2nd WC spot this year. Playoffs are playoffs. At least now we know not to expect anything.
Rsox
Unfortunately the only thing Bauer is ultimately guilty of is being a lousy human being, which is neither a crime nor is it a suspendable offense (consider Julio Urias is on video pushing his girlfriend to the ground outside of a nightclub and barely got a slap on the wrist and now we hear about him getting a huge payday next winter). I do believe Bauer is radioactive and will be viewed as a pariah so even if his suspension were reduced/removed no team (in this country anyway) is touching him with a ten foot pole
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If it isn’t suspendable then he will surely win his appeal and be paid a large retroactive sum right?? It must be suspendable because he has already been suspended 1 1/2 years almost. The alleged video of Urias pushing his GF outside Beverly Grove in LA has never seen the light of day or been made public. She also denied that anything happened whatsoever.
Rsox
He may. Bauer is being represented by the same lawyer who just got Danny Masterson’s rape trial declared a mistrial so you never know.
damascusj
That’s what the appeal is for, because the suspension was unjustifiable. Based on guys like Julio urias, clearly it was manfred buying time and having a vendetta vs Bauer.
But it’s about to come full circle
bag o ballz
If by being a lousy human you mean getting a girl drunk and punching her in the vagina till she goes to the hospital because she can’t walk, yeah that is pretty lousy.
BlueSkies_LA
Completely wrong.
reverberate
completely right. there’s photographic evidence of what he did.
BlueSkies_LA
@ reverberate. Sorry, the way these boards thread posts, I should have indicated where I was directing this response. It was to the comment that Bauer did not commit a suspendible offense. This is what’s completely wrong, because obviously he did.
AngelFan 3
How do you spell Ohtani?
Of course it’s Ohtani.
Play the kids Save money. Sign
the two headed wonder.
Buzz Killington
Trevor Bauer is innocent.
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Who is 1st in line to hand him a 6 figure deal?
Terry B
Bauer can suck Dick!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Even if you assume that every-thing he said was true, Trevor Bauer admitted to actions that harm the business of baseball and justify a suspension.
I am hoping that this money does not count against the Dodgers. Even if the best free agents are gone, this money can be used to extend Julio Urias.
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And Smitty & Cat Man too!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Smith is not a FA until 2026 and Gonsolin until 2027. Cartaya is so good that if he sticks at catcher, they might not even extend Smith.
damascusj
The irony of what you just said, trashing on Bauer to save money to give to urias….
Oh the irony
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What did Urias do?
damascusj
Domestic violence
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Maybe one day we will see the video
MLB Top 100 Commenter
When Urias was 22, he was suspended 7-8 games for shoving his girlfriend.
dodgerblue.com/dodgers-rumors-julio-urias-video-do…
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Per the article: “but as one source puts it, “It doesn’t appear there’s criminal intent to injure her.”
One source says it appears Urias used his hands in an attempt to stop her from leaving the area during a heated argument.”
In other words, it seems as though he was trying to restrain her, not strike her … though the woman DID go to the ground at some point during the argument.”
That article didn’t tell me squat!! Let’s see the video!
StreakingBlue
Nah don’t need diety laundry aired.
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We don’t??? Who doesn’t want the truth?
rememberthecoop
Dodger fans.
iBleeedBlue
Bauer’s accuser is from San Diego. ‘nuff said.
damascusj
Of course that’s relevant to a whiney dodger fan
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Not a great take to joke about it.
iBleeedBlue
No charges means sufficient evidence to support his side of things.
I’m guessing you hate Dave Chappelle and are okay paying record gas prices.
reverberate
Maybe you’d like to spend a long night tied to a bed with Bauer. After all, when was the last time you got hit in the puss, consensually, I mean? You might even learn to like it.
iBleeedBlue
Well, if Bauer had texts from me asking specifically for it, I’d imagine my case might get thrown out as well.
Deleted Userr
Ladies and gentlemen, Lindsey Hill.
ifunny.co/picture/found-it-dui-lindsey-hill-riding…
rememberthecoop
That is irrelevant.
JoeBrady
My guess is that Bauer gets suspended for 2022, reinstated for 2023, and the LAD cut him. The the question would be how to treat the salary. If I were the LAD, I’d argue that the deal becomes more like a $68M/3 deal than $68M/2. That would reduce their available spend to ~ $17M, which can still add a good pitcher, and still sneak under the cap.
BStrowman
If Bauer is reinstated and you have to pay him—I’d have a hard time not taking him back. The Dodgers could use another starter.
If the MLB is saying you have to give him the money—-i don’t know how the bad press is worse for that. He’d actually have to go to work and earn it if you keep him.
BStrowman
But I’m sure they will cut him.
Terry B
Bauer will NEVER pitch in LA again even if he’s reinstated, he’s DONE!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I am reminded of scene in Bull Durham where Kevin Costner tells the batter that Nuke is going to throw a fastball.
StreakingBlue
Bauer will probably not have his suspension overturned, and if by some miracle it is. The Dodgers will not want him. Unfortunately Bauer was a huge disappointment. I had high hopes, but he has been not as good as advertised(too many walks). I am really disappointed in Bauer as a person who appeared to be very refreshing as an athlete who shared what it was like for an athlete day to day. He should have been smarter with how he conducted his private life.
CommentsSectionCommenter
Sure, if you find relentless cyberbullying (along with some fun climate-change denialism) “refreshing”…..
CommentsSectionCommenter
@BStrowman
You’d have a hard time not taking back an absolutely garbage human whose history of bad to potentially criminal behaviors preceded his Dodgers deal AND who used a woman’s own hair to choke her out before having anal sex with her (to which she could not consent because she was, ya know, unconscious) AND brutally beat her during another sexual experience?
That’s….quite a take.
reverberate
Can’t wait to bring my kids to the park to see Bauer pitch. (That’s sarcasm in case you missed it). Walter O’Malley would roll over in his grave.
ForeverGiantsFan
I’m surprised he got a two year suspension. Surprised Dodgers didn’t do a better job vetting him. I wonder if any team will sign him?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Yes, the Dodgers FO did a bad job vetting Bauer.
sfgate.com/news/article/Sun-Bonds-Tells-Court-Barr…
foxsports.com/stories/mlb/lawyer-bonds-admits-usin…
rememberthecoop
Whatever happened to Anderson? How long did he remain in jail refusing to testify against his childhood buddy, Barry Bonds?
Rsox
He’s done stateside. Between this incident and the cyber bullying it’s enough for probably every MLB team to stay away from him. However a team in Mexico or Asia might be willing to give him a chance
puigpower
High five for “old friend”
Ghost Pepper
I wonder if the arbiter is a baseball fan.
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The arbiter actually has a wholesome Daughter on the Padres “Pad Squad.” It’s not looking good for him…
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Putting Bauer aside for a minute, I was really disappointed the Dodgers didn’t compete much for Senga, considering AAV-wise, he’d be right up their sleeve (similar to what they paid Rich Hill and reportedly were willing to pay for Ryu).
If it’s true that they’re trying to save money for whatever they add at the trade deadline, then they really have a little under $30M to play with right now, depending on the source. I think the maximum they can realistically add at the deadline is $15 M (or half of a certain two-way superstar’s salary). Now, I don’t expect the Angels under Moreno to trade Ohtani to the Dodgers, but if a new ownership really does come in between now and then (which I don’t think will actually happen but let’s play make-believe), then who knows what that new group will do with Ohtani.
I say right now, use that $30M or so to resign Justin Turner, maybe Ross Stripling as a depth piece, and Michael Brantley to give them a lefty-contact hitter. And if you want to go real crazy, trade for Pablo López. Then retool at the deadline as needed. Everything’s too inflated right now to justify stupid spending, especially when the Padres are just going to fall flat on their heels again.
Terry B
Bauer won’t be back, at least not with the Dodgers!
avenger65
Judge Landis had no problem kicking players out of bb for life. And that was for gambling, not abuse.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Another option is to use a lot of that money to extend Julio Urias. He is a free agent at end of 2023 and repped by Boras. If they do not resign Urias now, they likely will not at all.
damascusj
So don’t pay one guy who beats women and give it to another guy who beats women?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
There was a single incident was Urias was 22, it was caught on video and misdemeanor charges were dismissed concluding that there was no intent to injure. Not as bad as the Larry Baer incident.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Of course MannyBeingMVP. That’d be my number #1 priority too, but I think they go to arbitration or agree to a contract solely for 2023, then sign a separate contract for 2024-beyond to not affect luxury tax numbers in ’23 (if they really do want to sign him. The Dodgers are a little weird in that they never try to extend their young players, as far as we know). But I don’t know if Manfred would cry foul again and try to nullify those contracts
vjwhitmore
Sorry to all the hypotheticals, even if traded ,Ohtani. will go to open market next year and go for the highest $$$ he can get (don’t kid yourself into to thinking trade and then lock in at a discount or even a fair “market value”.. it WILL be a bidding war and he knows it…)
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Yes but I’m talking about 2023 only
StreakingBlue
I just hope Dodgers stay out of it.
StreakingBlue
I suspect that the Dodger didn’t think he was as good of a fit , or it’s entirely possible that Senga didn’t want to play with the Dodgers. Like it has been said the Dodgers would have probably preferred a shorter contract length especially with Senga not being more proven against MLB quality. There is just so much that is unknown. I think the Dodgers are trying to get less expensive players (minor leaguers within the organization) to maybe get more youth who will show more intensity and heart (hopefully) then the 2022 playoff roster showed. They don’t want to give 11/12 year contracts to near 30 year olds. That is not smart.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Well I guess Corey Kluber is still available.
88dodgers
I’ll be happy to show that arbitrator a fun night out on the town if it helps our team payroll for next year
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Personally, I think Manfred sleeps with the arbitrator just to spice things up right before the start of the season. Can you imagine the drama of Bauer back to the Dodgers? I can see that scumbag Dylan Hernández’s headlines already LMAO! “Trevor Bauer and the Dodgers: Trouble in Paradise”
MLB Top 100 Commenter
If the Bauer suspension holds, Dodgers have money to extend Urias. Boras represents Urias. So, Boras does better if Bauer is suspended.
Bauer was represented by Rachel Luba a young pretty attorney who used to work for the players association.
Hoping the Boras clients will turn on Bauer.
dgrfns52
Article doesn’t consider trades.. I would bet some of that prospect surplus gets traded for needs. Maybe Pablo Lopez or a center fielder like Varsho.
Ghost Pepper
Varsho won’t be traded for prospects, none of them will be.
Just sign Benintendi.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
More likely that Miami and AZ deal with each other, but with lesser players.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Big Dodger fan and I say this with all due respect, but I don’t think anyone sees Alex Vesia as an exciting young pitcher smh
StreakingBlue
I like Vesia. He is a good carryover to the setup man/closer. He is usually reliable when not put in a bad spot with not warming up.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Would describe Vesia as a solid middle reliever not an exciting young pitcher. I think Vesia has reached his upside but should remain at this level for a while if healthy.
amk1920
It all depends on the Bauer appeal result. If suspension is upheld, Dodgers will immediately add pieces.
Terry B
Exactly!
Mattimeo09
Technically the Dodgers are 7th best according to that Fangraphs link.
Sorry for being nitpicky.
Padres, Mets, Braves, Yankees, Rays, Blue Jays, then Dodgers, followed by Astros, Cardinals and Guardians to round out the top 10.
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Astros went from winning the WS to 8th best? Nice.
YourDreamGM
Fangraphs is going to be awfully wrong. And I thought there prospect rankings were weak. How could they mess this up.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The article says that the Dodgers have five prospects among their MLB top 100.
Rsox
I believe the Dodgers are sitting this free agent cycle out to make a run at Ohtani next winter. It’s going to take a lot of money to sign him and even the Dodgers didn’t want to get weighed down by one of this winters ridiculous contracts.
That said, i expect to see the Dodgers add a 2B option (Donovan Solano or Cesar Hernandez) or the could go the jack-of-all-trades route and sign Brandon Drury. They could bring Gallo back or make a push for Benintendi (though Robbie Grossman makes sense here as well). There is probably another starter they can scrape off the barrel and turn into an ace for a year (Cole Hamels? Danny Duffy?) and maybe a bullpen arm on the cheap
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Yes, Donovan Solano would be a really great fit with Dodgers if he is cheap enough!
YourDreamGM
I believe it’s all about resetting the tax. Ohtani would just be a added bonus.
JerseyShoreScore
Yes, definitely just part of the long range plan for the Dodgers to reset the payroll every few years.
It can’t be the Ohtani Plan, because there is just a slight chance the Dodgers can sign him.
Most likely, an owner investing billions to buy the Angels will just give Ohtani a blank check ASAP.
If not, most teams will do the same during free agency. Dodgers are not any more desirable than many other teams.
StreakingBlue
I think its telling that the Padres don’t appear to want to bring Drury back.
If anything Cole Hamels should be paying the Dodgers back for stealing the 1 million he took in 2021 when he signed as a healthy player, but never even did anything to get injured.
avenger65
Cesar Hernandez? Really? He came from Cleveland with 20 HRs and couldn’t hit the ball off a T after the wsox got him. Chicago. Where good careers go to die.
trueblue442
It might be counterintuitive, but maybe having less expectations might be a good thing. Every year, we’re top in payroll, wins and, WS odds, but it leads to nothing in October. In MLB, teams fighting there way to a playoff spot really helps create a surge in October. I’d rather the team mindset in October be, “F*** it! What do we have to lose?” Rather than worrying about all the expectations… With that said, give $500m to Ohtani in 2024.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The new Angels owner will either get an Ohtani extension done or trade him mid-2023 if as expected Angels are out of contention.
trueblue442
Yep, the order will go like this:
1) LAA find a way to stink again
2) trade for Ohtani that involves Rendon’s contract
3) give Ohtani an extension
StreakingBlue
I couldn’t even imagine what type of trade package the Angels would accept that didn’t strip the other team of years of young talent. I can only think that the NY teams would take Rendon’s awful contract.
trueblue442
A slightly less than a Soto type package, just because it would only be a half of a season. Cartaya, Miller and Busch would have to be a good start.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Just look at MLB top 20 prospects and imagine one of those plus a solid major leaguer for half a season of Ohtani. But probably not to Dodgers.
trueblue442
If LAA is tanking, why would they want a player solid major leaguer?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I am thinking something like Cartaya and Lux for half a season of Ohtani. But I think that even with a new owner, Angels would deal with someone other than the Dodgers.
Frankly, if I was the Dodgers, I would not want to do that unless I was sure that I could extend him.
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@trueblue442
That’s a “no” for me on Rendon (and that awful contract), dawg.
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Manny I don’t think those 2 could command Ohtani’s batting gloves. Even for 1/2 a season.
StreakingBlue
Its still relatively early into free agency. The Dodgers will do something its just too early to say what. I think bring JT back, and hopefully a decent starter Evoldi (sp) is my preference would be a win for offseason. I would think Dansby Swanson would be icing on the cake.
YourDreamGM
The Bauer money is huge. Either way they will field a good enough team to make playoffs and can still even win the division. Value can be found in free agency for cheap. Bullpen arms can be had off waiver casualties. They have the minor league depth to replace injuries.
Luke1358
Looks like ownership got tired of choking in the playoffs and decided to shuffle it up. Makes sense but if Kershaw is the leader of your staff you’ll still choke in the playoffs ♂️
niel.marshal
As much as i love Senga to be a Dodgers, he’s condition could be tricky though. Watching NPB (Yakult Swallows especially) since 2008 when Seth Greisinger still in his prime, Jamie D’Antona, Aaron Guiel and later Seth Greisinger mashing HR, Senga is very much like Rodon now. FO likes what their seeing, but very careful with his injury history. Senga spent time about 3 weeks in IL this season (2022), 2 month in 2021, and about 5 weeks in 2020. IMHO, he was very good when he is healthy, even better than Kenta Maeda in his prime when he was in Hiroshima. His fastball and splitter was nasty, but yeah, the last 3 years battling with various injury.
Too bad Munetaka Murakami also sign 3 years deal with Yakult. So he will jump to the MLB in 2025
niel.marshal
Sorry, i wrote Seth Greisinger two times, it should be Josh Whitesell
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
What is Dave Roberts going to do with this sinking ship?
Ghost Pepper
Buy a snorkel.
BlueSkies_LA
Two other possibilities not considered in this article. First, the Dodgers might be simply choosing to not spend. Because, you know, profits? The second more optimistic possibility is they are keeping their powder dry for July when they can better assess the performance of the prospects.
SanDiegoSuperDissapointingPadres
Bauer is a bum. He should be using his time away for some intensive psychotherapy. Maybe two years of super intensive therapy could help him keep a job, but who knows?
I am somewhat surprised by the lack of urgency from the Dodgers thus far. I for sure thought they would of gone all in on Judge or Bogaerts. I agree Rodon is a giant risk especially at 7yrs. Swanson is an upgrade from Lux plus, you add in the Freddie factor.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
If the Bauer money does not count toward tax, plenty of cheap options left, both free agents and trades where they could take on some money. As noted, Dodgers like to do that mid-season too.
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Why don’t the Angels trade Ohtani for a prospect haul? They only have 1 year left with him and it’s doubtful he resigns with them. Not like the Angels have a shot at the playoffs in 2023. Might as well get something back in return for the future.
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@Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Because that theoretical haul took a significant hit when they chose not to trade him at last season’s deadline, when they would’ve likely gotten a better-than-the-Soto-haul–and from the Dodgers, no less.
Now, with just a year of control left, the cost for one season of control just doesn’t equal what they’d be giving up, nor will it at the deadline in 2023, when it’ll likely be a deal similar to the Betts trade, short of an exclusive negotiating window that the team trading for him has “reason to believe” will be successful…..
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Because by waiting the new owner can put their stamp on the team either extending Ohtani or more likely deciding what they want to get by trading Ohtani. If the new owner gets to make those decisions, Moreno has a more popular item for sale.
Blue Dude
Well if we are dumpster diving and taking chances. I would like to take a flier on
James Paxton SP on Minor League Deal , kind of a forgotten player just to see how well he has healed…
Maybe Trade for Javier Baez and make the Tigers eat some of that contract .with Austin Meadows. Buy Low options Baez has speed and pop and plenty of attitude and emotions 22 Million a season lets say they Take Bauer of our hands.
Shift Mookie to CF he is Athletic enough
Lux 2B/ Busch
Baez SS */ Amaya
Mookie CF
Freeman 1B
Muncy 3B/ Vargas
Smith C
Taylor LF
Meadows DH
Outman RF/ Pages
SP Kershaw
SP Urias
SP May
SP Gonsolin
SP Paxton Pepiot Miller Grove Jackson Ferguson Battle for it
CP Graterol/Phillips
The Saber-toothed Superfife
So, what contract, if any, do the Dodgers want to dump?
bkt42
The Bauer decision, without a doubt; is hamstringing us. We need that suspension to be upheld or we are basically screwed.
It is not realistic for the Dodgers to assume that all of their top prospects will make it, so they need to decide which ones figure into their plan and trade the others, much like they should have done to get us a starter and LHB (not named Gallo) at the deadline last season.
Personally, I would go hard after Bryan Reynolds, because as I don’t see the bottom of the lineup being as hard to replace by the rookies, it is not ideal to lose Trea Turner from that #2 hole and just expect to replace his production.
Reportedly the Pirates want a Soto-like return, and the Dodgers have that. Pittsburgh doesn’t need a prospect catcher (no Cartaya) but could use good prospects everywhere else, especially pitching.
Because Busch is not expected to stick at 2B, he is the guy I would build the trade around and I would include Ramos, who is a little further away but a very good OF prospect. Then I would send them 4 pitchers- two of which who could immediately be in the mix this season (Jackson and Grove) as well as 2 others in our top 20. Lastly would be their choice of our top IF prospects in Leonard, Vivas or Amaya.
Assuming they chose Leonard, who is a year or two away but with the highest ceiling, and they chose two hurlers inside our top 20 not named Miller, Stone or Pepiot (among Knack, Nastrini, Bruns, Kopp, Frasso and Duran)- that would be SIX prospects with 5 of them among our top 18, including 3 in our top 10 with two of those in many MLB Top 100’s.
Such a package should include David Bednar coming our way, especially if it took Pepiot instead of Grove for instance; although I don’t think it is necessary….
My trade:
Dodgers send RHP Andre Jackson along with prospects in IF Michael Busch (#4), OF Jose Ramos (#8), IF Eddys Leonard (#10) and RHP’s Nick Nastrini (#12), Nick Frasso (#18) and Michael Grove (#24) for OF Bryan Reynolds and RHP David Bednar.
Dodgers then should offer Swanson a 10-yr $200 million contract, lowering his AAV to 20 per- something they can fit under the tax. I know they say they are comfortable moving Gavin Lux over, but I am not sure that is the case at all. The middle infield is the one area where they do not look particularly strong in the minors, so SS would be secure for the foreseeable future.
Having a very strong top 6 in the lineup….
RF Mookie Betts (R)
CF Bryan Reynolds (R)
1B Freddie Freeman (L)
C Will Smith (R)
DH Max Muncy (L)
SS Dansby Swanson (R)
….allows you to use your youngsters and rookies on the bottom 3 and be ok with it.
LF James Outman (L)
3B Miguel Vargas (R)
2B Gavin Lux (L)
Andy Pages can push Outman, but my guess is he still needs some minors work along with Cartaya, two of the higher end hitting prospects we get to keep.
The bench will still have Chris Taylor, Austin Barnes and Trayce Thompson from the right side but seriously lacking a LH presence. For me I would look to add David Peralta, who should come in under our budget and a tweener IF invited to camp, perhaps switch hitter Johan Camargo. I am not expecting Jason Heyward to make the final roster…and he isn’t much of a bat at all, so getting someone like Peralta is a must.
On the mound as much as I wanted an upgrade there, it doesn’t look like it is in the cards or is affordable if we want to stay under the cap. I would entertain a trade for Pedro Lopez, but they are reportedly wanting a big league hitter back. I doubt they can afford Taylor with 3 years and 45 million still left on his deal, so unless Trayce is that guy, we don’t match up.
The problem is, even without Bauer’s hit; we are paying 16 million plus next season on two pitchers who many not even pitch in 2023 in Walker Buehler and Blake Treinen.
So for me I go and get a modest LH (my choice would be Drew Smyly) to join Urias and Kershaw from the left side and let a host of RH’s (May, Gonsolin, newly signed Shelby Miller and prospects Pepiot, Stone and Miller) battle it out for starts. Maybe you can get Lugo signed as well along with Smyly.
The bullpen, with the addition of Bedard; should be fine; although I would try to add another LH via a modest trade if I could, a controllable pre-arb one.
Betts $29 million
Reynolds $6.8
Freeman $25.8
Smith $5.2
Muncy $13.5
Swanson $20
Outman
Vargas
Lux
Taylor $15 million
Peralta $7
Thompson $1.4
Camargo $2.5
Barnes $3.5
DeLuca
Amaya
Urias $13
May $1.8
Kershaw $20
Gonsolin $3
Smyly $6
Miller $1.5
Pepiot
Stone
Miller
Bedard
Phillips $1.4
Vesia
Graterol $1.2
Beeks $1.6 (trade with Rays)
Hudson $6.5
Ferguson $1.5
Almonte $1.5
Gonzalez
Knack
Subtotal: $188.7 million
Buehler/Treinen: $16
0-3 Pool: $6
Salary/Benefits: $16.5
40-man: $2.3
Total: $229.5
Of course this all becomes moot if Bauer’s suspension is overturned or reduced…..
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@bkt42
Tremendous post, and agreed pretty much across the board.
Rsox
@Blue Dude and bkt42
Paxton is under contract with the Red Sox and Camargo signed a minor league deal with the Twins
leftcoaster
Reading through these comments it’s evident many people have forgotten that we’re innocent until proven guilty in America.
As a retired federal law enforcement officer I’ve seen MANY cases where a female victim admitted she fabricated abuse long after they diabolically damaged an accused’s reputation. Allow me to remind you, after reviewing all evidence, the District Attorney’s office declined to file charges. Yes, declined. Case rejected. Met as a committee, discussed the evidence in detail, scratched their heads, tapped the desk, checked reject, insufficient evidence, on the police report and sent it back to the DA’s office.
Imagine being falsely accused by someone for the sole purpose of being extorted and subsequently being suspended from your job without pay because of it. If this were to happen to me……. I’m not a Bauer fan but I hope he abuses MLB in court.
BlueSkies_LA
You’ve forgotten that this isn’t a trial, so pretty much everything you said is irrelevant. But thanks for wishing turmoil on baseball. You’re a real fan.
leftcoaster
My comments weren’t focused on whether or not MLB should suspend Bauer. My primary issue is that many here speak of Bauer as if he abused the alleged victim. Thus, your comments are irrelevant.
leftcoaster
Ok let’s go there. Let’s say someone falsely accuses YOU of something heinous for the sole purpose of extorting you. You’re arrested, the police conduct their investigation and submits it to the DA’s office. Pending their decision YOUR employer suspends YOU despite your insistence you didn’t do it. The DA subsequently outright rejects the case but your employer fires YOU anyway. YOU would sue the hell out of them and win. Rightfully so.
It’s not about whether or not I’m an “MLB” fan; it’s about deciphering right from wrong. As a law enforcement officer it was my job to investigate fairly and submit reports to federal judges along with my recommendations. Believe me, when it was clear a perp committed a crime I wanted them held accountable. Very accountable. When the evidence made it clear they didn’t, I wanted them to go on with their life without being adjudicated. In the Bauer’s case not only was he never found guilty in court, the DA’s office rejected the case outright.
Now, everyone here and in the community speaks of Bauer like he beat the tar out of the helpless woman even though evidence suggests otherwise. Furthermore, baseball is hell bent on ignoring the evidence and crushing his career. I’m not a Bauer fan and have two daughters about the same age as the extortionist, so there’s no reason for me to defend him. However, mlb should be required to respond to alleged violations fairly. Being hammered in court might serve them well.
Neon Cop
Ignore this Blue Skies character. He gets his panties in a bunch whenever someone has a different opinion. Peak snowflake.
BlueSkies_LA
Go where? My point, once again, is this isn’t a trial, so talking about guilt and innocence as if it’s the issue is missing the point from word go. Once you understand that, continually repeating this argument is just being disingenuous. Your assumption that the process is “unfair” or that anyone is be “extorted” is a total invention. And yes, whether you understand what you are saying or not, you are still wishing turmoil on baseball. Bauer probably does too, so you have that much in common.
reverberate
The photographic and other evidence strongly suggests that he did beat her. As I understand it, the case was rejected over the issue of consent.. Your not so subtle assumption that the woman is a liar and an extortionist is just that, an unsubstantiated deduction, based more on your prior experience than on any existing evidence. As a retired Federal Law Enforcement officer, you should know better than to come to a conclusion of guilt based entirely on your preexisting biases. Good police work requires both induction and deduction. You are working with half a deck.
leftcoaster
I’ve had several women blatantly lie straight to my face about abuse during questioning, resulting in alleged offenders being penalized and their names being drug through the mud only to have them later admit they fabricated their entire story. Maybe my experience makes me look at this case differently than most. In my opinion either the evidence is there that the rough sex wasn’t consensual or not. It seems the district attorney’s office doesn’t believe there is. Maybe the woman’s selfie video in bed winking and smiling with an unblemished face while Bauer slept exposed her but we’ll probably never know. Bottom line is none of us have seen enough evidence to make any type of decision about the case. I’m simply saying if the DA didn’t think the case was suitable for filing MLB better damn well have justification for suspending Bauer or they’ll eventually end up writing a very large check before is all said and done.
BlueSkies_LA
I’ve already mentioned the two documents and the parts of those documents you need to familiarize yourself with if you want to have an informed opinion on this. I suggest you do so rather than making more fatuaous arguments. Or I guess you could continue to believe that the commissioner made a completely irresponsible determination based on no facts and no reading of the policy and without any guidance or advice. Conspiracy theory du jour. The way we live now.
leftcoaster
I read the documents. The information contained in them make absolutely no difference. They essentially say they take a strong stance on domestic violence and there will be hell to pay if players do it and their investigation reveals such was committed. I’ll tell you what, after the OJ. case here in Southern California local law enforcement and the DA’s office are scared to death to not hold domestic violence perps fully accountable. Especially high profile cases. The evidence must be incredibly weak for the DA’s office to outright reject the case. MLB had better have incredibly damning evidence or they’ve got problems.
BlueSkies_LA
Try reading it again, because that isn’t the point at all. I’ll give you a hint. Read the section on consent and figure out what it means. If you do you won’t have any problem understanding what they’ve got on him. It really isn’t very complicated. Nothing to do with the DA and even less to do OJ.
Rsox
No one’s employer has the right to tell you what you can and cannot do in your bedroom, a case like this implies that MLB can. Neither Bauer or his accuser are victims as like it or not the rough sex was consensual, making as severe a suspension look like A) definite overreach by the commissioners office and B) like saving the Dodgers from buyers remorse by trying to remove their financial commitment to him
BlueSkies_LA
Good luck with that theory.
Dodger Dogg
This is what the Dodgers management has worked so hard to do since Frank McCrook – developing the farm system for sustainability. With so many veterans leaving the team, the Dodgers roster will be filled with talented youngsters and STILL be a playoff contender.
Keep that young, athletic talent filling up the minor league system. The Dodgers have been setting the standard for continued success and will continue to do so. Go Big Blue!
Neon Cop
This is absolute delusion LOL