The Dodgers and Giants are among the teams looking into the possibility of a trade for Brewers second baseman Kolten Wong, reports Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic. The Mariners are also known to have checked in as part of their search for a left-handed hitting second baseman.
Wong is one of the winter’s likelier trade candidates. Milwaukee has a loaded arbitration class that has led them to explore ways to alleviate a payroll crunch. The Brewers waived reliever Brent Suter, whom they apparently weren’t looking to tender a contract with a projected $3.1MM salary. Milwaukee tendered a contract to corner outfielder Hunter Renfroe, but they subsequently dealt him to the Angels for a trio of pitchers and knocked a projected $11.2MM salary off the books.
It appears they’re planning a similar strategy with Wong. The Brewers opened the offseason with a decision on the 32-year-old infielder, as his free agent deal contained a $10MM club option or a $2MM buyout. Milwaukee exercised the option, but Rosenthal writes the Brewers are expected to deal Wong at some point this offseason.
Wong is coming off an atypical season. A two-time Gold Glove winner, he’s been one of the sport’s top defensive second basemen throughout his career. His track record at the plate has been more mixed, but he paired arguably his best offensive season and his worst showing with the glove in 2022. Wong hit 15 home runs and put up a .251/.339/.430 line through 497 plate appearances, numbers that checked in 16 percentage points above league average according to wRC+. Statcast pegged him as the game’s worst defensive second baseman, though, estimating he was seven runs below average. Wong committed 17 errors, tying a career high, and he had the worst speed metrics of his career. At his age, Wong’s best days as a defender could be behind him, although it’s worth noting he also didn’t seem fully healthy. He lost a couple weeks in June to a right calf strain and acknowledged after the season he played through leg injuries (via Todd Rosiak of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel).
The Brewers aren’t going to move Wong solely for the purpose of salary relief. Had they been completely set on cutting costs, they could’ve declined his option (or placed him on waivers in hopes another team would claim him and get them off the hook for the buyout). Milwaukee didn’t do that, but as with Renfroe, they don’t seem motivated to retain Wong at his current salary. Rather, they’ve apparently made the determination he has trade value at that $10MM price point and are looking to capitalize on that while creating additional payroll flexibility.
If they do move Wong, the Brewers could hand second base over to former first-round pick Brice Turang. Wong himself suggested after the season that Turang’s presence could inspire Milwaukee to let him go, as the young hitter is coming off a strong season for Triple-A Nashville. Turang, a left-handed hitter, is coming off a .286/.360/.412 showing in 131 games for the Sounds. Prospect evaluators regard him highly as a defender, and he’s now on the 40-man roster after being added to keep him out of the Rule 5 draft.
The Dodgers and Giants each have plenty of spending capacity. Both clubs are sure to take swings at top-of-the-market free agents, but Wong represents a solid fallback as each seeks to build out their infield. Los Angeles has seen Trea Turner hit free agency, while they declined a team option on Justin Turner. They’re possible suitors for any of this winter’s top four free agent shortstops — Trea Turner, Dansby Swanson, Xander Bogaerts and Carlos Correa — but Rosenthal suggests they could pursue a top free agent and a Wong trade.
The thinking in that scenario would be to rely on Wong and an open market acquisition up the middle while turning third base over to Gavin Lux. Lux has only played six MLB innings at third base, spending the bulk of his time in the middle infield. Defensive Runs Saved and Statcast have loved his work at second base but been mixed on his shortstop defense. Statcast ranked Lux 155th out of 163 qualified infielders in arm strength this year, meaning he’d probably be stretched at the hot corner. Los Angeles also has a top third base prospect, Miguel Vargas, ready for a big league look after a .304/.404/.511 showing in Triple-A.
San Francisco already has a left-handed hitting second base option in Tommy La Stella. He’s under contract for $11.5M in the final season of a three-year free agent deal that hasn’t worked as hoped. La Stella owns a .245/.297/.380 line as a Giant, seemingly putting his path to everyday reps in jeopardy. The Giants could also explore the top of the shortstop market, perhaps with an eye towards kicking any acquisition over to second base in deference to Brandon Crawford. They’ve been prominently mentioned as the Yankees’ top rival on Aaron Judge, though, and landing a big-ticket shortstop would probably be off the radar if their pursuit of Judge proves fruitful.
While the Brewers have been open to talks on Renfroe and Wong, there’s no indication they’re planning a broad teardown of the roster. Listening to offers on quality role players with escalating price tags is par for the course for a Milwaukee franchise that consistently works to thread the needle of remaining competitive with mid-tier payrolls. Dealing someone like Corbin Burnes, Brandon Woodruff or Willy Adames would be a far more impactful subtraction from the MLB roster, and it doesn’t appear GM Matt Arnold and his front office are eager to make a move of that kind.
Rosenthal unsurprisingly writes the Brewers are finding ample interest on Burnes, Woodruff and Adames but suggests they may be likelier to hold onto those players into the season and reevaluate their place in the standings closer to the trade deadline. All three players have two seasons of arbitration control remaining, and while it seems likely at least one member of that group will eventually be dealt, there’s no pressing concern for the Brewers to do so this offseason.
PLINKO
Wong time to be doing business
PLINKO
Wong time to be a Brewers fan too
YourDreamGM
The price is Wong
Deadguy
Milwakee needed playoff revenue this badly that they trading away Hader, Renfroe, and possibly Wong to cut salary within a 6 month period? What are the plans to compete while you still have Woodruff and Burnes?
Sells offs of note
2022 Milwakee Brewers
2021 Chicago Cubs
2020 Cincinnati Reds
2020 Washinton Nationals
2015 Pittsburgh Pirates
1997 Florida Marlins
1995 Montreal Expos
pdxbrewcrew
Trade a couple of players that are out-pricing themselves and it’s a “sell off.” Maybe in idiot land.
RyanD44
Kolten’s youngest brother Sumtin can’t seem to do anything right.
PLINKO
Their cousin Berry hasn’t done anything right in years
RyanD44
Ah yes, Berry! Their kid Willie is terrible at debating.
PLINKO
I dont doubt that, Wright always seemed to be the best debate brother anyways.
RyanD44
Well, that’s because the oldest brother Juan was an only child for a long time and didn’t have anyone to practice with!
king beas
Wyatt’s not getting any younger
YourDreamGM
2 Wongs don’t make a Wright.
PLINKO
Two Wongs can make a Kolten though
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Andrelton Simmons is available.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
This is idiotic, why give up a 24 yr old in his prime for a 32 yr old? This is a LAD diversion, just so they don’t pass the lux tax…
ramfan222
They aren’t trading Vargas for him they were stating one of the Dodgers 3B options internally
bwmiller
Angels have Keen Wong in their system, he could be up soon. I think Keen is Kolten’s younger brother.
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Wow I feel like they got Wong a while ago. Maybe 3 seasons or so.
BStrowman
Wong is attractive on 1/10. Particularly in this market.
It looks like some of the better ran teams think the defense being bad last year was just noise. He has an entire career of solid D.
With FA prices as high as they are right now—the brewers might actually get something with a tinge of upside back.
RyanD44
I personally haven’t heard of Upside, perhaps you mean Eli Whiteside?
BStrowman
I mean that was an attempt at humor. I’m all for it—it just wasn’t funny.
YourDreamGM
And I thought my jokes were bad.
PLINKO
So am I
stroh
Wong at 2B and Lux at SS for Dodgers. Who would have thought? Feels a bit Pirate-ish
YourDreamGM
Nah. Pirates would go with a waiver wire claim and a guy no other team wanted for 1.5
mlbdodgerfan2015
Lux very cheap at SS but a bit of you get what you pay for as his glove will be shaky and as I’ve said before he doesn’t have an MLB SS arm.
His bat is also going to be average at best unless he takes a big step forward. Needs to hit more extra base hits without compromising on average/on-base percentage.
JerseyShoreScore
Yup, Lux needs to take a significant step forward to even be a top 20 MLB shortstop offensively and defensively. Playing Lux at third base is an absurd idea as his bat is barely passable as a middle infielder. Any athleticism and movement skills that Lux has as a quick player are mitigated at third base as well.
Lux had an okay season last year, but a .275 AVE, 8-10 HR power, and 50 RBIs or so is not a cornerstone player. So, hopefully he shows some growth.
RyanD44
Who wins in a fight:
Chien Ming Wang or Kolten Wong?
The correct answer: Hideki Irabu – he’ll take all your $.
YourDreamGM
Hideki Irabu? Is that Chinese for Sam Fried?
PLINKO
Wong, it’s godzilla (Hideki Matsui)
jajacobs2
The Dodgers would be stupid to play Lux at 3B. They have Muncy there already.
Terry B
Muncy not exactly Mr. Glove at third base either!
avenger65
Muncy is a first baseman but it seems the signing Freeman has turned the rest of the infield into turmoil. Lux at second. No, SS. Wait a minute. Let’s put him at 3b. Or we could move him all around the IF from game to game. They should just sign a bonafide SS and let Lux and Muncy play second and third, respectively.
Wilmer the Thrillmer
Hmmm.. The Dodgers have Lux, Taylor and Muncy who all play second base. I don’t see the need there. The Giants definitely have a need depending on who else they sign. In my opinion unless Thairo Estrada steps it up to another level, he is best suited as a utility guy.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I want Kolten Wong!! No, you can’t have Kolten Wong, because I get Kolten Wong! Bullroar, I saw Kolten Wong first!!! Not fair!!! Fine, you can have Kolten Wong, I didn’t want him anyways. Fine, good riddance. I’ll go get a superstar studded shortstop , and make him play second. Joke’s on you loser.
towinagain
Padres will take Justin Turner anyday. Guys torched us for years. Would love to see him in a Pads uni.
88dodgers
All these different dodgers infield scenarios get more foolish everyday it seems, Hopefully the winter meetings puts a stop to this.
Samuel
88dodgers;
There’s the assumption that the Dodgers are gong to sign one of the 4 SS’s.
Not so sure the money is there to do that.
I believe they gave out at least one too many large contracts.
I don’t know if Lux will move to SS in 2023 or what, but Mr. Friedman is going to have to find some options other than signing a few more players for $100m-plus contracts again going into 2023. Kolten Wong @ 2B may well a realistic option.
mlbdodgerfan2015
No way they sign Bogaerts, Turner, Swanson or Correa.
Trade for cheaper option or go with Lux. Big step down in production from last year but they’ll spend their money elsewhere and hopefully reset the luxury tax.
I see the Dodgers spending more on pitching given what happened last season with starting pitching depth.
Chris Koch
Interesting if true about not enough money to sign one of the big SS. Remember the tie to Brewers and Adames trade. LA double dip Wong and Adames? Muncy/Lux with 3b? Maybe Milw kicks a few mil for maybe the return they are asking on the initial Adames talk?
mlbdodgerfan2015
I’m going to guess that if they trade for Adames they won’t pursue Wong, and same vice versa. So, either Adames or Lux at SS. If they do both, Lux plays all over the field as a super-bench player with Taylor. Muncy would be the regular 3B.
giantsphan12
I don’t know why Farhan would consider sliding Kolten in at the keystone, as his offense doesn’t play strongly enough against his waning defensive ability. 17 errors is about 10 too many for a team like the Giants whose defense was disastrous last year. Especially with the disappearing shift in ‘23.
jekporkins
I agree… don’t see how at this point in his career he’s better than Estrada, who is significantly cheaper and has more upside.
Chris Koch
Wong wasn’t necessarily throwing to average defenders at 1b with Tellez and Hiura. Where their reach is like 6inches shorter than what is your typical 1b.
Fregosi
The Wong jokes are lame. Tired of the same comments regarding his last name. Get a life dumasses.
SF makes perfect sense. He reunites with Kai Correa.
giantsphan12
@fregosi, we have totally different takes. Respectfully, why do you think KW would be a good fit for the Giants?
King Floch
Duly noted, Captain Buzzkill.
YourDreamGM
@Fregosi Sounds like someone woke up on the Wong side of the bed.
Yankee Clipper
That’s just Wong, Dream GM.
Scutarointherain
Fregosi, you’re right about the lame jokes. As for the Giants, idk, I wouldn’t trade much for an aging guy with faltering defensive stats on a team with such lackluster gloves…even with Kai.
King Floch
Ramon Urias from the Orioles would be a pretty good fallback option for whoever loses the Wong Bowl, or anyone else looking for a 2B/3B. In fact, he might even be a better option for the Dodgers if the luxury tax is a concern for them this offseason since Ramon is still pre-arb while Wong costs $10 million.
giantwarrioras49ersraiders
This kid always hit good when he played against sf in sf….
Yankee Clipper
I don’t really see this as a viable option for LAD. Their IF currently resembles the Yankees: lots of 2B options, no great SS option atm, no good 3B, and they’re attached to every available player….
I could be wrong, but I don’t see the Dodgers losing T Turner’s & Justing Turner’s production on D and offense without making a significant acquisition to replace them on the left side.
Perhaps it does shake out where they seek a Wong-like player, but it seems much more like a fallback option (plan C?).
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You are right Clip. In no reality do I see Lux play 3B. Better keep JT at the very least..Or as you say, replace him. Muncy at 3B is a lot more viable than Lux in my view but still not ideal. If JT thinks he has 1 more year left in the tank and the Dodgers do as well, then keep him.
mlbdodgerfan2015
I think Adames is a more likely option. Dodgers don’t like giving out the big contracts in contrast of what most MLB think about the Dodgers. Yes, they gave one out to Mookie and Freeman, but they’d rather get a guy that they can control a few years or a cheaper option, and risk losing them in their free agency year and move on to the next guy.
I agree that they currently don’t have a great true SS option. I’m okay with Lux taking the keys but I’m prepared for the sharp downtick in defensive/offensive production. It’s part of the price you pay for re-setting the luxury tax and not risking long-term by giving out a bad long-term contract.
Yankee Clipper
I could definitely see the Dodgers making a sneaky Winter Meetings trade for Adames… I really like that move for them too. I think they would help with his current offensive inconsistency and get him back to replicate his ‘21 stats.
whyhayzee
If this is Abbott and Costello’s team, does that mean What’s Wong?
sf fan
SF is interested in everybody.
taran7
Lux at third. Hilarious. Dude can’t make the throw from second.
mlbdodgerfan2015
Agreed. Only way Lux plays 3B is as a super-bench player to give Muncy a day off.
Simm
If the brewers spent some money this off season they could be really good. At the sametime if they don’t then they look very mediocre.
They don’t seem to be willing to spend and if that’s true then they really should sell off their players this off season. With the cost of players going through the rough the brewers could trade wong,, burnes, woodruff, Adames and some pen dudes ect. They could have the best farm in the league after one season and be primed to compete again very soon.
This ride the middle road seems silly if the goal is to win a championship.
If they sold on everything of value they could get like 7-10 or more top 100 guys plus a bunch of lotto tickets dudes.
Burnes
Woodruff
Williams
Wong
Adames
Peralta
Lauer
A few others out there that would get some value as well. If I was a brewers fan I’d like them to spend some to add and win but if not rebuild. Is it really fun to watch them be a .500 team that’s going to keep bleeding players over time.
MannyPineappleExpress9
The fans (and several players) almost boycotted after they traded Hader. Sell off even half of that bunch and the franchise will fold. Players (whoever is left) will rebel, fans won’t show up or buy merch, and Brian Anderson will refuse to fulfill his 12 games of TV broadcasting.
#1WhiteSoxFan
No mention of White Sox interest in Wong…. but if Wong is not an obvious upgrade over each of the current Sox candidates for 2B… play Sosa!
avenger65
Sosa and Gonzalez belong in the minors. The day the WS sign Wong, or at this point ANY major league second baseman, is the day I’ll believe the FO cares about turning this team around into a winner. Clevinger? You’ve got to be kidding!!
#1WhiteSoxFan
Cueto 2.0
rolafaive
Please Milwaukee if your going to trade another fan favorite could it please include Yelich?
TellItGoodbye
I seriously doubt the Giants are going after the worst defensive second basemen after last year’s infield debacle. I think they’re going to get Correa and move Craw to 2nd.
Scutarointherain
Tell it goodbye, I hope you’re right. This feels like an old regime move. I’m hoping they’re just bluffing to get the Dodgers asking price up.
foppert
Tommy and cash for Wong maybe. No idea how that fits the Brewers.
Echopark
The Wong to Dodgers rumor makes no sense to me. If you pony up for a big 4 SS, why add Wong at 10M when you have Lux at 2B? If you get a big 4 SS is 2B that much of a priority to add payroll and move Lux to 3B so what – you have no place to play Muncy and sometimes Vargas and Turner if he resigns.
KHE
Since the end of the last season, all we heard is How the Giants were going to be Big spenders this yr during FA. And yet we have seen N O T H I N G as of yet, but every single player we have been linked to is being signed else where. So I take it all that hype was a joke on us.. How about pay some money and upgrade this roster !! This Giants GM is all talk, NO Action. Spend the money and make some moves or resign and let us get someone who is capable of pulling the trigger on some FA’s & Trades.