With Jacob deGrom and Justin Verlander off the market — to the Rangers and to the Mets, respectively — Carlos Rodon is the clear top starting pitcher left on the free-agent market. As one would expect for a 29-year-old lefty (30 next week) who opted out of the second season of his contract on the heels leading the National League in strikeouts, the asking price appears quite high. Jon Heyman of the New York Post reports that agent Scott Boras and Rodon have been seeking a six-year deal at an annual rate of $30MM or more. (Notably, that report pre-dates Verlander’s new agreement with the Mets.) Heyman suggests that the Yankees are the large-market team that is most focused on Rodon at present.
As always, it’s worth taking early asking prices with a grain of salt to some degree. That’s not to say Rodon can’t reach six years and/or a $30MM+ annual value, but it behooves any free agent to at least initially set a lofty asking price. A six-year deal for Rodon would put the lefty in rarefied air, as the list of free-agent pitchers to secure such a commitment is quite short.
No free-agent pitcher has pulled in six-plus years on the open market since the 2019 Winter Meetings, when Gerrit Cole (nine years, $324MM) and Stephen Strasburg (seven years, $245MM) managed to do so. Prior to that pairing, the only free-agent deals of six or more years in length over the past decade have gone to Yu Darvish, Johnny Cueto, Max Scherzer, Jon Lester, David Price, Zack Greinke (twice!) and Patrick Corbin. Starting pitchers earning more than $30MM annually are similarly rare; Cole, Strasburg, Scherzer, Price, Greinke, Verlander, Clayton Kershaw, Trevor Bauer and deGrom are the only pitchers to ever reach that level.
For Rodon to join either group of arms, he’ll need to convince the market that the injury troubles that dogged him for much of his early career are in the past. Rodon has undergone shoulder surgery and Tommy John surgery in his career, and due to those injuries pitched just 232 1/3 innings at the Major League level over a four-year period (2017-20).
However, the former No. 3 overall pick returned to the White Sox on a one-year, $3MM deal in 2021 after being non-tendered, and broke out with one of the best seasons of any pitcher in the sport. Through mid-July in 2021, Rodon was the clear front-runner for American League Cy Young honors and quite arguably the most dominant pitcher in either league. Shoulder fatigue down the stretch dropped his velocity and relegated him to just six starts over the final two months, and durability concerns “limited” him to a two-year, $44MM deal with the Giants — one that allowed him to opt out of the contract after one season if he pitched at least 110 innings.
Rodon not only reached 110 innings — he dominated to the tune of a 2.88 ERA through a career-high 178 frames. He held his velocity late in the season, averaged better than 5 2/3 frames per start and took significant strides toward alleviating some durability concerns. He paced the National League in strikeouts this past season and has now turned in consecutive campaigns with a sub-3.00 ERA. Dating back to Opening Day 2021, he leads all Major League pitchers (min. 200 innings) with a 33.9% strikeout rate. He rejected a qualifying offer from the Giants, which may slightly impact his earning power, but that consideration shouldn’t be a major encumbrance for an in-his-prime, ace-caliber pitcher.
That’s especially true now, because with deGrom and Verlander off the market and little to no frontline starting pitchers clearly available in the trade market, demand for Rodon should be extra-steep. He can justifiably hold out for max years and/or dollars and go to the highest bidder, knowing that teams in need of an ace have no readily available alternative. Unlike Verlander, who surely prioritized signing with a win-now team due to his age, Rodon can consider a broader field of suitors. To this point in the offseason Rodon has drawn interest from as many as nine teams, with the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, Rangers, Twins and Orioles among the team’s reported to be involved in his market to at least some extent.
fre5hwind
Guess he wants to stay somewhere for awhile.
mike127
—or get a guaranteed paycheck for a while….
fre5hwind
He wants money and I don’t blame him.
PhanaticDuck26
that’s a deep take.
Dorothy_Mantooth
I still think the Rangers end up signing him. He and deGrom will be a monster 1-2 punch for however long they can stay healthy. It would result in about $130M/yr being paid to 4 players (deGrom, Rodon, Semien and Seager) but the Rangers don’t seem to care. They want to build a perennial winner and having these 4 would be a pretty darn good basis for doing so.
Saskatchewan Jaysfan
If they can both stay healthy, for sure..but both have past history issues with? staying healthy.
DBH1969
The Red Sox can sign him. For just 60 mils a year, The Sox hope that either Sale or Rodon are able to pitch in any given week.
TheMan 3
Correction
He wants to fleece his team for millions during his several annual trips to the IL
He has a history of injuries and at 30, he wants guaranteed money for years to “ feed his family “
RyanD44
The dude scares the crap out of me with his shoulder and elbow health history. He’s dominant when healthy, but if it was my checkbook, I don’t think I’d sign off on him as my top pitcher. If he’s your 2nd or 3rd starter and you don’t “need” him to be dominant/healthy to succeed, I’m all for it… but health is a big question on him.
Johnny81913
$30 million a year is not a #2 or 3. He’s gonna be paid like an ace. High risk, high reward.
RyanD44
Verlander just got $43m/year as a #2 🙂
marrtho
1.B.
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RyanD, Verlander isn’t afraid of Mad Max! They’ll fight each other then hug it out!
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
Verlander’s a number 2?
Jon M
Today I learned #2s win Cy Youngs
RyanD44
I bet Scherzer will start opening day, therefore the 2nd starter would be….
marrtho
Johan Santana!
Saskatchewan Jaysfan
Agreed! He is so tantalizing when u watch him pitch,and his stuff just dominates! But at the end of day, 6 years for him? With that history, I have to say “Thanks,but pass.”
User 1413108128
Porcello, Dickey, Keuchel, and to really learn you a closer is also a Cy Young winner (Gagne). I don’t think closers are number one’s but I am wrong more than I am right most of the time.
flamingbagofpoop
It’s not, “high reward”, if you’re giving him anywhere near $180m guaranteed.
Moneyballer
Health is a big question on every pitcher. His last 2 seasons were comparatively healthy ones.
put it in the books
He won’t get that, but then again the Rangers are looking to make bad decisions.
Didlz
@put it in the books
He might even get 7
put it in the books
You’re on.
Bohs and Os
I want the Os to sign him but if that’s his asking price I’m sure he’ll either end up in NY or LA
DBH1969
I would have agreed 3 hours ago…. JV just reset the pay scale
DTD/ATL1313
He didn’t reset the pay scale as his deal was only a 2 yr deal. You can justify that higher AAV for 2 yrs but not any more years than that.
avenger65
I also hope he goes to the Orioles. I think it’s great that the Os are coming out of the darkness of the AL East and finally becoming a division contender.
DBH1969
a 39 year old just got paid 43.3 mils a year. if you think the younger guys aren’t going to try to grab the same amount then I think you are wrong
flamingbagofpoop
Will they be signing for 2 years? They can try all they want…
Samuel
“As always, it’s worth taking early asking prices with a grain of salt to some degree. That’s not to say Rodon can’t reach six years and/or a $30MM+ annual value, but it behooves any free agent to at least initially set a lofty asking price.”
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Yes….
But every time I read that about a ballyhooed player during free agency season, they seem to always get more years and money than initially asked for……especially if Scott Boras is their agent.
Find the most desperate owner / FO.
Moneyballer
That’s the Texas way, throw oil money at it until it’s fixed, yeeee haw!
Moneyballer
I’d say the Colossus of Rodon lands a 5yr 100mil deal.
JockStrap
Dont blame him for not wanting of bouncing around anymore,
Jaysa
He’s played for 2 teams his entire career. The only places he’s bounced around to is the IL.
jdgoat
Not that crazy of an ask considering it would only take him to 36. That’s just going to be a little bit older than Degrom is at this point, who still managed to get five years.
DTD/ATL1313
It’s his significant injury history that gives pause, not his age.
RyanD44
I could see the Rangers giving $150m/6 years.
If DeGrom and Rodon are healthy, that’s dirty and the best R/L combo in the game.. but the chances of them both being healthy all season isn’t great.
desertball
I think that’s a great take
gcg27
DeGrom signing is nuts
dlw0906
Maybe a few days ago 6/$150 mil would’ve gotten it done but its not going to be enough in a mkt where your much older competition just signed for over $40 million each.
kripes-brewers
But Rodon doesn’t have the pedigree of those top-tier guys. Dunno. I suppose someone will acquiesce! I think it’s crazy, however.
DTD/ATL1313
Verlander got the high AAV because it’s a 2 yr deal, no other reason. His deal should have little to no effect on any pitcher seeking a lengthy contract.
TheMan 3
Verlander got the AAV deal because he’s 40 and 2 years from having Tommy John surgery
Even though he had a phenomenal season in 2022, his arm may not make it to the end of this new contract
rememberthecoop
That won’t do it Ryan. He’s going to want at least 30M per so 180M min. If V can get 44M then Rodon can get 35 per.
RyanD44
Verlander is much more proven and a tier above Rondon. Even roughly 10 years older, Verlander has a better health history than Rondon.
If Rondon wants $30-$35m/year, he won’t get 6 years.
Ma4170
Agreed… he’ll probably either get 5-150 or 6-165… if someone goes 6-180 or more, that feels desperate in this case… and I’m very high on rodon
mlbdodgerfan2015
If not healthy, they’re “only” out $62mm on two starting pitchers. What are the odds that both stay healthy for an entire season? DeGrom’s contract stretches out to 39 years old and Rodon’s to 36 years old in your scenario. If Rangers do that they have absolutely no discipline. In your scenario, that is $835mm in contracts to 4 players. Four? For a team that is not very good. These type of contracts is what keeps bad teams bad for a long time.
oldredgunslinger
I wish all baseball fans were as smart as Dodger fans think they are.
mlbdodgerfan2015
It’s not about being “smart”. It’s just common sense that most GMs would not do this. Then again, some GMs in bad teams with deeper pockets do weird things out of desperation to try to save their jobs for short-term results at the expense of the long-term future of the club.
flamingbagofpoop
What is incorrect about what he said?
Jaysfan1981
I dont see the Jays going 6.
Looks like SP is coming via Trade
Let’s start some Rumors.
Jays sign a SS use Bo and Moreno for a SP Trade.
MagicOriole
Gosh I hope they trade Bo. Weird rumor to start coming from a Jays fan lol
Jaysfan1981
Well he’s good, but not so good that trading him is going to hurt for 20 years. He’s certainly replaceable and is probably better suited at 2nd, his bat is overly elite at 2nd and the defensive requirements are less which should increase his value there as well
If the Jays move him to 2nd, he’s never re signing. So…. Use the equity you have in him paired with Moreno and get a legit SS in FA and a Legit Ace through trade.
Sign Belli for CF and call it an off-season
Samuel
Jaysfan1981;
Have you Jays fans ever considered getting players to “fill he holes” from your minor league system?
Jaysfan1981
Yes we have one ready right now in Orelvis Martinez. But not many serious contenders rely on unproven rookies to fill middle of the diamond positions
Probably the same reason we wouldn’t see Moreno for Carroll even though it’s the perfect trade for both teams
Ma4170
Omg bo and Moreno should get you burnes level sp, that’s a massive package
Jaysfan1981
Yea, I’d revist the Burnes/Yelich Rumors and see what else we could pry from Milwaukee for Bo and Moreno.
Brewcrew? Thoughts?
Ma4170
But are the Jays even entertaining moving either?
Jaysfan1981
I think everyone but Vlad and Alek are available for the right packages
Samuel
There are no Burnes/Yelich Rumors other than this poster.
kripes-brewers
I mean look at what FA pitchers are valued at right now! Pretty sure the Crew plans to wait until the deadline to see where they’re at regardless. Either way, you can imagine you’d better start with Moreno, add Tiedemann, zulueta and Barger, and we’ll consider taking Bo. It would take a ridiculous offer to get Burnes or Woodruff.
Digdugler
Bo is more valuable than Vlad.
Jaysfan1981
We aren’t asking for Burnes alone. Youre very correct if that’s the case.
If you are trading Burnes its to free yourself from Yellich. Unfortunately for the Brewers he’s the reason you won’t be keeping both Burnes and Woodruff long term.
So, you can get Bo and Moreno or you can watch him walk in a few years to the Padres or Yankees and wish you could go back in time to redo it
Jaysfan1981
There are many more places to read reported Rumors than this site Sammmy
There are certainly Burnes/Yelich package rumors in many corners of the internet. And frankly it’s one that actually makes sense.
Cleon Jones
He’ll get 5/150, Yankees will pony up.
Old York
Will the AAV on that include injury years? Maybe stagnate the pay so one year, he’s getting a high AAV and then the next year, it’s low.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Stagnate?
MarkieFresh
Agents and the players association would not go for that at all.
Incentive bonuses are used in some contracts though. Bonuses for awards like MVP, CY Young are the most simple. With some pitching contacts, innings pitched is tied to option years like in the new Verlander contract where if JV pitches 140 innings in 2024 he will earn a player option for 35m to pitch in 2025. Rondon had an innings pitched level in his contract which he achieved thus allowed him to opt out of his contract and elect to free agency for a new contract.
cwsOverhaul
Why not even with his lack of durability? Clubs are showing desperation and Boras is ready!
jt33nym
Big risk to take with the injury history, but the team who gets him could be getting his best seasons
Dumpster Divin Theo
Or it could all go so horribly wrong. Fun tho!!
Al Hirschen
He’s going to New York
avenger65
I don’t know what else Rodon can do to prove he’s healthy. At the end of the 2021 season he has shoulder fatigue so the wsox freaked. Not about his shoulder. Because they knew they would have to pay him the big bucks he showed for most of the season.Hey, Reinsdorf! Fatigued arms get better with some rest, Cheapskate!
flamingbagofpoop
What? They would have had to pay him the QO price. If you’re going to call out the WS for being cheap, do better.
This one belongs to the Reds
Considering he’s only 30, bet his price went up too!
I wanted a six year deal too but my company said they only plan a quarter ahead in case they want to layoff people to make the stock price go up!
Dumpster Divin Theo
Me too, I was happy when they agreed to 30 per 6. Assumed they thought I knew Million. 4 years later, wups
kripes-brewers
No way he gets that many years with his history. Of course I’ll be wrong, but that’s just silly.
dlw0906
It is silly but think about the deals Jake and JV signed. The Rangers just popped 5 yrs/$185 to a 34 yr-old and the Mets 2/86 to a 40 yr-old. Meanwhile Rondon is just turning 30 and coming off two of best seasons. More than one team will offer him 6 yrs so it will take 7 to get a deal done. He’s the last shiny Ace toy on the shelf expect Boras to charge a premium and get it too. I do think its silly too, but its silly season in the MLB.
kripes-brewers
Waino must really be shaking his head! He coulda got in on this craziness too!!
Cleon Jones
Like Silly Season, replacing Hot Stove League
VonPurpleHayes
It’s interesting that the Dodgers and Mets use the same philosophy of crazy high, but short-term deals. This would seemingly imply Rodon isn’t going to those clubs.
dlw0906
VPH there is no way Rodon will go the Mets now. I think they made the right choice with Verlander. The Mets are spending now so they can both save $ later and save prospect capital as they build up a top-level minor league system.
VonPurpleHayes
Agreed.
dlw0906
You watch someone will give him 7 yrs at around $35 million a year. Expect a bidding war now. He’s the last Ace remaining. Padres, Jays, Rangers…would be my choices to do something like that.
MarkieFresh
Cardinals with their payroll should be a player. Nothing going on at the top of the order and the next pitching hopefuls from the farm in 24. Pay a drunk sailor price for SP upgrades or eek the NL Central. I doubt DeWitte decides to change his ways in his 17th season. He turns 82 next season. Focus of franchise lately is investment in Ballpark Village, a multifunctional dollar capturing enterprise to make rich people a little richer.
DBH1969
Why not. It seems to be Crazy Contract year all of a sudden.
Seriously though. That is a LOT of cheddar for a dude who just tossed 178 innings. And with his injury history, it mind as well have been 378 innings.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Yeah warning signs in 21. First injury free season then poof, faded in August, velo dropped to the high 80s and not useful in the playoffs. Whoever signs him has to be prepared for load management. Be prepared to dink around in September-October
baseball lifer
6/183 from the Rangers…. Team opt out after year 3.
Jfoster4913
He won’t go for team opt out. That cuts his guaranteed money in half. I think a couple teams will do 6/150 and then it’s up to him where he sees himself being happy
The Fiend
No way
Balk
Get ‘em Giants.
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
After the absurd Verlander deal, he may as well go for an 8yr deal. It’s clear teams are in overpay mode. Hell..if I were him, I’d have my agent call Preller. 17yrs, 1 zillion
DBH1969
Sitting at my desk laughing out loud… everyone in the office looking at me like I am nuts. Thanks!
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
Haha! Happy to help!
Terry B
Vagiants lose out twice! Judge staying in NY and Rodon moving on elsewhere!
burnt_reynolds
Grow up, Terry
agnes gooch
Thank you burnt
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Based on this year’s market and his past two seasons that’s not a completely impossible goal… but six years for a guy with his injury history and rather overnight emergence as an ace?
I think he could maybe get more like 2 years/$75M or 3 years/$112M. And if the bidding war gets intense maybe 4 years/$150M.
I can’t see him getting 5 or 6 years guaranteed, even if he dropped his ask to a $27M-$29M AAV over the length of that contract.
G.M. Ima Scapegoat
There’s not much of a difference between desperation and ignorance. Considering his stats are pretty consistent between above/below .500; 1st,2nd,3rd time thru the order, 5 2/3 innings average by start is pretty much what’s expected out of a starter you could make the argument for a 6yr deal regardless of injury concerns.
It’s really dependent on where the team that signs him is positioned to compete and when or if it becomes a albatross.
Rich S
IMO, VERY high risk, given his arm issues to go 6 years at *any* $ figure; $30M per seems like a big-time roll of the dice. Oh, BTW, small article fact check: Rodon did *not* lead the NL in Ks; Corbin Burnes led the league.
Ma4170
I believe he led in K/9, not actual Ks
metsfan1992
Rodon will be a Met soon
VonPurpleHayes
He definitely won’t.
Yankee Clipper
I don’t think so. However, if he does go to the Mets their rotation would be the best to be on the field in a long, long time (on paper anyway). I couldn’t even conceive Rodon being a #3. That’s just…..insane.
Ma4170
Rodon to Yanks sounding more feasible by the day
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Rodon goes as the “consolation prize” to the loser of the Yankees-Giants battle for Judge.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Boras will advise Rodon to hold out as long as possible to get the best deal available but if his client wants to just sign and get it over with, he will allow him to do so. If someone like the Rangers offer him 6/$180M soon, Boras will let the other teams know that he has an offer to his satisfaction and give them one last shot to make their best and final offer. If this is the case and Judge decides to wait out the market, then there will be no consolation prize of Rodon for the Yankees or the Giants. He’ll be long gone by then.
Matt_Angel_Bronco_Laker
GTFOH, $30m per. Hard pass.
Dumpster Divin Theo
For the record, whoever signs him is getting a great teammate and family guy. When he pitched the no hitter hus wife wrote an emotional long form letter thanking the team, staff and fans for their support through his myriad injuries and how she broke down when the fans were standing and started cheering every pitch in the 6th. Hope he gets paid! Just be careful team that signs him
dom d
Cohen’s money!
4 years 125M with a 5th club option at 40M
VonPurpleHayes
Cohen doesn’t do 4 year deals. 3 and under. Cohen’s Mets are very exciting, but all your jersey (outside of Lindor) have an early expiration date.
Steve Adams
The Mets signed Edwin Diaz for five years and Starling Marte for four.
Bk11235 2
Patrick corbin mike hampton anyone
Yankee Clipper
Could do 5 @ $28M per, with opt-out after one and/or two years, and a club option for the sixth, with a buyout of $10M.
Thus, either he gets the sixth year or the buyout, which brings his 5-years to $30MM. And he has the benefits of opt-outs if he has another good year or two.
MadSkillsUniversity
LOL. With this guys history, I doubt he last 3 years, let alone 6. What a joke. You would think he would just try to get a ring like Abreu. 3 years max with maybe a 4 year option. 6…LOL.
Milwaukee-2208
If Chris Russo on MLBN says “Rendon” instead of Rodon one more damn time I’m going lose it. Get him off air
VonPurpleHayes
People often type Rondon too.
Motown is My Town
These is NO WAY I’d ever give this guy a 6 year deal, but some knuckle-headed BillionIre owner will. And when he cries poverty at the next CBA negotiation I’d expect the players association (if they were smart but we know they’re not) to hold this up as the poster child contract for owner ignorance
flamingbagofpoop
Why would the PA want to hold this up as a negative? They want more things like that ask to be given out.
msqboxer
As long as year 3 is player option and 4-6 club options.
notnamed
he’s not worth 6 years
WideWorldofSports
Whichever team signs him to this deal will regret almost immediately
angt222
At this point, I feel like Rangers would be the front runners with the Yanks focused on resigning Judge.
Redwolves3
Rodon wanting 6 year deal definitely takes Giants out of the running. No way Zaidi will even make a competitive offer to Rodon.
just_thinkin
Bro I dunno man.
Good for him if he gets it, but jesus lol
Samuel
The Braves, Phillies, and Mets playing one another are definitely replacing the Yankees and Red Sox playing one another as what
fans nationally will be following.
The NL East has had the Rays and Jays that competed, but few
actually bought into them. And I firmly believe the O’s will be
better than all of them within the next 1-3 years….but they won’t
get the respect….the narrative will be that the Yankees and Red
Sox did it wrong.
Terry B
No way this dude gets a six year deal! Maybe 4-5
Skell 2
Anyone that gives this guy a 6 year deal, worth 30 per will ruin their teams future. Wow. What a terrible idea
Poster formerly known as . . .
It’s steep, but the richest franchises can afford it. It’s $144M less than Cashman foolishly gave to Cole.
That’s not to say it would be a good contract, but they could absorb it.
rec567
The Giants saw him all season. It’s always noted that Farhan doesn’t go for multi-year contracts (unless it’s for Judge). Giants have the room to offer Rodon a 4-6 yr contract, but they are always an afterthought in listing teams in the serious chase for signing him. Are they not seriously pursuing b/c they know his medical so well—and something gives them pause for a 4-6 yr contract? He was said to be irritated with Giants several times during the season b/c of the defensive limitations behind him, and how the BP lost blew games after he left with a lead and a potential win. And, there are other teams with more realistic playoff potential. So, maybe there is a serious mutual disinterest in a return.
skyyalpha
Six years doesn’t seem too unreasonable for a 30yo pitcher. $30MM AAV does seem unreasonable though, given his history. 6/140 maybe?
JackStrawb
6/180m for Rodon is utterly absurd. Two excellent years but only a 155 inning average.
Long injury history. A 5th and 6th in Cy voting, not 1st and 3rd. Not even a 6 inning guy.
Zack Wheeler wasn’t quite as good, but was more durable, was clearly underperforming with a bad Mets organization, had a clearer recovery path, was clearly thoroughly recovered from TJ when the Phillies went out on a limb to give him 5/116m after seasons of 182 and 195 innings. .
alumofuf
Yanks must sign him but, Hal will not spend the money. Wish George was here as we need him.
Bright Side
6’3″ 245lbs, turns 30 on 12/10/22, a former top 3 pick that took several years to emerge, Boras client
Caveat Emptor.