Right-hander Seth Lugo reached free agency for the first time in his career last week and has already drawn plenty of early interest as teams begin charting their offseason gameplan. Will Sammon of The Athletic reports that more than a dozen teams — but not the Mets, yet — have reached out to Lugo. That shouldn’t be surprising for a consistently solid setup man, but what’s more interesting is Sammon’s note that some of those clubs have expressed interest in putting Lugo back into a rotation.
Lugo, 33 this week, has bounced between the Mets’ rotation and bullpen at various times in his career but has been a full-time reliever in each of the past two seasons. In that time, Lugo sports a 3.56 ERA with a sharp 26.6% strikeout rate, a 7.9% walk rate and a 44% ground-ball rate. He’s averaged 94.4 mph on his heater in that time, and Lugo regularly sits near or at the very top of leaderboards for the spin rate on his curveball. Since 2018, FanGraphs’ run values peg Lugo’s fastball as the fifth-most valuable four-seamer among 279 qualified relievers; his curveball ranks seventh, just behind Ryan Pressly.
Generally speaking, Lugo has been a quietly effective member of the Mets’ bullpen for the bulk of his time as a reliever. In exactly 300 career innings out of the bullpen, the right-hander’s ERA sits at 2.91. He’s fanned 27.9% of his opponents and walked 6.9% of them, relying primarily on that fastball/curveball pairing but also mixing in a sinker, occasional slider and a very seldom used changeup (which has been particularly rare in recent seasons).
That mix of four to five pitches, however, is likely what gives some teams the belief that Lugo could find success in a return to a lengthier role. It’s also worth pointing out that while Lugo struggled immensely as a starter in 2020, his overall body of work coming out of the rotation is solid. He’s thrown 194 innings as a starting pitcher in the Majors and pitched to a 4.35 ERA in that time. His 20.9% strikeout rate as a starting pitcher is far lower than his 27.9% mark out of the ’pen, but his 6.3% walk rate is slightly better than his 6.9% rate as a reliever.
Lugo might’ve stuck in the Mets’ rotation for the long haul were it not for some health issues that cropped up early in his big league tenure. Most notably, he was diagnosed with a “slight” tear in his right elbow’s ulnar collateral ligament back in 2017. Any tearing of the UCL, even in minor cases, leads to fear of Tommy John surgery. However, Lugo received a platelet-rich plasma injection in the elbow at the time, opted for rest and rehab rather than surgery, and has not incurred subsequent issues with his elbow ligament. Even in 2021, when he underwent surgery to remove a bone spur from his elbow, Lugo indicated that upon examining the MRI results to diagnose the spur, his surgeon “was really impressed with how [the UCL] wound up” (link via MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo).
Lugo tossed just 65 innings in 2022 and has a career-high of 101 1/3 innings pitched — a total he reached in both 2017 and in 2018. As such, it’s fair to question just what type of workload he might be able to build up to in 2023 if he indeed opts to sign as a starting pitcher. That said, there are surely plenty of teams also eyeing Lugo in what has become his traditional late-inning setup role — one in which he’s thrived over the past several years. Interest as a starter could well prove to be a moot point, but it’s a good reminder of the outside-the-box approach that a number of clubs will take when it comes to building out their rotations.
dugmet
I am tired of his “stutter foot”. Just plant it and throw already!
Edp007
Lugo my Lego please
DaOldDerbyBastard
Glad to have the perspective of such a well respected pitching coach.
Deadguy
Lol Mets hired Jeff Albert to be director of hitting! Oh boy wait till he gets ahold of some of that NY social media heat when Mets start taking fastballs right down the middle
10centBeerNight
For NL east fans who have watched him over last few years – confident in saying “Not a good idea”
jyosuckas
He had early success as a starter but once teams figured him out he couldn’t make it through the lineup a 3rd time
Baseball Babe
Who can these days aside from about 10 guys?
BaloniusFunk
As is the case with many starting pitchers…
gmenfan
“So, what’s wrong with that?” – Alex Wood
LongTimeFan1
He made clear as a Met he wants to be starter and now he may get his chance. But interested teams should be aware he’s ho-hum back end. Lineups figure him out the more they face him. If I correctly recall his stuff erodes.
VonPurpleHayes
Keep in mind he was in the NL East consistently facing elite lineups with the Phillies, Braves and Nationals (a 2021 and earlier). I think Lugo is very solid, and will excel in another division.
LongTimeFan1
@VonPurple
The 2023 schedule is reducing intra-division play and increasing league play for greater balance.
VonPurpleHayes
Yes. Good point. So staying in the NLE won’t even matter.
Tangential point: I don’t understand the point of divisions if in-division teams aren’t playing each other more. If you’re going for a balanced schedule, why not do away with divisions entirely and just go by best overall records?
Edp007
What’s the point of two leagues. ? Two mvp’s ? Two CY’s Etc. They are just conference awards.
Can u imagine nfl giving two mvps ? NHL ? NBA? No , all one league of 30/32 teams.
LongTimeFan1
@VonPurple
These changes are more about league than division….increasing league-wide head to head. There hasn’t been enough intra-league play for some time. There used to be far better balance when teams played 12 games each against division foes and 9 each against the remaining league foes. Interleague play has cut into that. So for instance, and NL team competing in NL for postseason berth play some AL teams as many times as they do NL. That’s whats been needing fixing.
VonPurpleHayes
I get that. And it’s nice that teams in weaker division won’t get to coast as much, but. that theory is out the window when division standings still matter. Theoretically if a really poor division has a 70 game winner, that team still gets to the playoffs with homefield advantage in the first round. I understand that when schedules aren’t balanced, but since they are in 2023,I feel like divisions should go away. Take the best records in each league. Done. Why do we arbitrarily count divisions now (with 2023’s schedule)? I don’t get it.
SonnySteele
You lost me with the fourth sentence, LongTimeFan1
Samuel
He’s this years Michael Lorenzen.
Don’t blame him for wanting to start, but his value is in the bullpen.
Ma4170
Agreed… like Lugo a lot, but the value is definitely RP over SP
HalosHeavenJJ
My thoughts exactly.
Which means I should start an “Angels Sign Lugo” piece now.
Larry Brown's crank
sam…I thought of the exact same name.
SonnySteele
It seems to me that pitchers go from starter to reliever more often than the other way around. Can y’all name any past relievers who became starters?
Ma4170
Off the top of my head only ones that come to mind are SP prospects being brought up as RP before starting, like Chris sale. I’m sure there are many who’ve made the transition, but I’m blanking right now. Christian Javier? But I think that’s same situation as sale.
fivepoundbass
Yep, I can’t think of any making that move late in their career
Samuel
rodcannon;
Not for decades……
Up until sometime in the 70’s most starting pitchers were broken in by pitching long relief in the bullpen, then moving into a starting role if they did well and one of the starters was either faltering or injured.
But with the move to most relief pitchers only throwing one inning – or two at the most – it’s next to impossible to move a pitcher from a relief role to a starting one. “Stretching him out” would be the buzzwords.
Attystephenadams
He’s good, but not the dominant reliever he once was. And he really can’t pitch on consecutive days.. If you convert him back to a starter he may be good for 4 innings. He’s more of an opener. But I would take him back on the Mets as a reliever when you look at who else is out there.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Hasn’t been the same since his tear. He really isn’t that good. Has a good curve ball but he losses the strikezone a lot. Hes more of a back-end reliever if anything. His stats are very misleading. Hes the type of reliever that when hes not on his game, he implodes
VonPurpleHayes
That’s essentially every reliever ever.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Incorrect, theres plenty of relievers that when they do bad, they only give up one run. Seth Lugo will give up 4-5 runs when hes doing bad. Hes good in low leverage situations. He walks everyone in high leverage situations
VonPurpleHayes
Interesting. Stats don’t really point this out, but as a Mets fan you definitely have a better feel for the situation than I do. My overall point about relievers is that they’re extremely volatile. Outside of a few elite closers, most of them tend to get crushed from time to time.
myaccount2
@LFGMets- His game log doesn’t reflect what you’re claiming. Lugo didn’t give up 4+ earned runs in a single outing all last season nor did he allow 4+ runs via inherited runners. He only allowed 3 runs *once* all last season but I will concede that all 3 were earned. He gave up 2 runs in a game in only 9 of 62 appearances, meaning only 10 of his 62 appearances (16%) resulted in 2+ runs. Not that inconsistent for a reliever.
DaOldDerbyBastard
He hates the Mets.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@myaccounts2 He gave up a grandslam at the game I went to vs the Marlins, they were Bassit’s runners, first batter was encarcion and Lugo threw a pitch right down the middle, nice try
mookie1
@LFGMets
Anecdotal evidence, the best kind. That’s the kind of comment that reflects poorly on all of us Mets fans. Lugo is good, but not great. All the teams in MLB would want him on their staff for the right price.
myaccount2
Interesting. Not sure why that isn’t reflected. Alas, he had an 80% strand rate. So if the numbers are mixed up and he gave up 3+ runs twice in 62 outings, it still doesn’t exactly prove your point.
HBan22
He has been so much better as a reliever throughout his career. I think any team planning to use him as a starter will be disappointed, especially at his age.
SonnySteele
It would be funny if a team signs Lugo as a starter but only uses him as an opener.
Didn’t read the fine print? Too bad.
greatgame 2
A 34th round 2011 pick and has made $9+M. Gotta be a record
DarkSide830
Just another Strahm or Lorenzen. Sometimes you’re just a RP.
slimmycito
Has Shatkins written all over him. Probably their top target tbh.
Camden453
lmao the Mets tried that and it did not go well
Orioles2024
Relievers are getting paid.
Take the reliever cash!
Bill M
He’s not a starter. Back end, rear end, any end, doesn’t matter. He’s a pretty solid reliever though and if the Mets don’t re-sign him, they’ll need to find someone to replace him. Lots of holes to fill on that team