The Dodgers and Twins are each facing some uncertainty in their rotations and are giving some consideration to lefty Carlos Rodón. Jon Heyman of The New York Post mentions the Dodgers as suitors while Dan Hayes and Aaron Gleeman of The Athletic report the interest of the Twins.
The interest in Rodón isn’t surprising, given his excellent two-year run of success. After injuries severely limited him in 2019 and 2020, Rodón posted a 2.37 ERA with the White Sox in 2021, along with a 34.6% strikeout rate and 6.7% walk rate. Rodón didn’t completely erase the injury concerns, as he went on the IL due to shoulder fatigue and only logged 132 2/3 innings on the year.
Those concerns were enough that the Sox didn’t issue him a qualifying offer. The Giants gave him a two-year, $44MM deal but one that allowed him to opt out after the first year if he hit 110 innings. He soared past that mark, finishing at 178 innings with a 2.88 ERA, 33.4% strikeout rate and 7.3% walk rate.
He received and rejected a qualifying offer from the Giants but still was listed as the top pitcher on MLBTR’s list of the top free agents this offseason. Jacob deGrom and Justin Verlander will likely earn stronger annual salaries but will be limited to shorter pacts because of their ages. Rodón won’t turn 30 until next month and was predicted for a five-year deal worth $140MM, an average annual value of $28MM.
For the Dodgers, their uncertainty comes from a couple of factors. One is that Walker Buehler required Tommy John surgery in August and will likely miss all of the 2023 campaign. Secondly, they could potentially lose a couple of rotation members in free agency. Tyler Anderson already rejected their qualifying offer and signed with the Angels, while Andrew Heaney is still unsigned.
Despite that, the rotation is still in good shape, with Clayton Kershaw, Julio Urias, Tony Gonsolin and Dustin May likely taking the first four spots. However, May just returned from his own Tommy John recovery in August and only made six starts down the stretch. Urias and Kershaw are both slated to reach free agency a year from now, with the latter seemingly giving some consideration to retirement every winter. Given all those question marks, an investment in the rotation makes plenty of sense.
A lengthy commitment to a starting pitcher would be a change in M.O. for the club, however. It appears that the last time they gave a starter more than three years was the four-year deal given to Brandon McCarthy prior to the 2015 season. They’ve generally preferred to find hidden gems on short-term deals, like the one-year pacts they gave to Anderson and Heaney going into 2022.
However, they’ve cleared a lot of payroll space this winter, meaning a big strike can’t be ruled out. Roster Resource currently pegs their 2023 payroll at $152MM, with a CBT number of $168MM. They could add about $60MM to next year’s spending and still be under the first luxury tax threshold, which will be $233MM in 2023. They will surely be considering doing some spending on a shortstop or perhaps Aaron Judge. But given that they had an Opening Day payroll of $281MM in 2021, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts, they have enough dry powder to go after just about anyone they want.
The Twins can hardly match the Dodgers when it comes baseball’s financial hierarchy. However, they are in a good position to be more aggressive than some might expect. Their future commitments are pretty close to zero, with Byron Buxton the only player on the books for 2024 and beyond. For 2023, Roster Resource only counts $98MM in commitments at the moment, well shy of last year’s $134MM Opening Day figure, per Cot’s. There’s certainly room for a big contract of some kind, though the club’s first order of business might be seeing how Carlos Correa responds to their creative contract offers.
If a deal can’t be worked out with Correa, pivoting to Rodón makes sense given their rotation picture. They have lots of options on hand but they all come with uncertainty. Sonny Gray posted a 3.08 ERA in 2022 but injuries limited him to 24 starts and he’s a free agent next year. Tyler Mahle dealt with shoulder problems and only made four starts in a Twins uniform after being acquired from the Reds at the deadline. Like Gray, he’s a free agent after 2023. Kenta Maeda should be back in some form but he missed all of 2022 recovering from Tommy John surgery. Joe Ryan and Bailey Ober had strong results in 2022 but both are still young, with neither having yet reached 200 career innings. Chris Paddack had Tommy John in May and could return in 2023, though likely not until the second half of the season. The club also had a batch of interesting pitching prospects, though they are naturally unproven as all prospects are, particularly pitchers.
If the Dodgers or Twins are serious in their pursuit of Rodón, they will have company. They join the Giants, Yankees and Rangers as teams with reported interested in his services.
seamaholic 2
Heyman flogging another Boras client (Rodon). His whole post consists exclusively of Boras clients. He literally made one phone call and wrote the damn thing up. How do I get a job like that?
Yankee Clipper
1) Call Boras
2) Buy Kneepads
iH8PaperStraws
That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen on here in a while. Besides the outrages Judge predictions of course. I wonder how much Haymen gets for being the Boras agency hype man.
BlueSkies_LA
In this case BOS isn’t shorthand for the Red Sox, it’s an acronym for Boras Obsession Syndrome.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Yankee Clipper!!!! For shame!! Weren’t you aware that MLBTR is supposedly a -family friendly- blog ??? All this “knee-pad” business might corrupt some innocent minds…
Yankee Clipper
Uh, autocorrect?
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Gee…who’s going to win this duel?
Deadguy
Damn clip
SalaryCapMyth
I was wondering since I don’t follow any of the other major sports. Is there a Football, basketball or Hockey equivalent to Boras in those sports? A sports agent who is famous but mostly infamous?
Samuel
SalaryCapMyth;
Great question!
There have been agents close to his influence and production in other sports, but they seldom last more than 10 or so years. He’s been the premier baseball agent for over 45 years.
There’s no professionals sports agent in the world that is close to him. He is truly a living legend.
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His players seldom cause problems (other than having injuries) and comport themselves as professionals – he expects that (you’ll seldom – if ever – find his players using drugs or causing problems…he works behind the scenes to cut off any controversy). They have access to trainers, exercise equipment and even sports psychologists at his headquarters 24/7/365.
Additionally he has been behind both lawsuits and public pressure to change MLB for both players rights, as well as ways in promoting the sport – including actions such as announcing season awards as a multi-day process and keeping MLB in the news 12 months a year. He’s the most influential person in changing MLB for the better since Charles O. Finley…..who was also disliked by many.
Mr. Boras played minor league baseball before becoming an agent.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Samuel’s profusion of prose is becoming more voluminous by the day; a literal vomitorium of spewed verbiage..like reliable Old Faithful spouting off.
jonbluvin
I think the lack of a salary cap gives Boras the latitude to work his magic/schemes. All he needs is a few desperate GMs/owners. The salary cap, for the most part, stops teams of other sports from falling for his types of tricks.
brucenewton
Alan Eagleson in hockey. But for a different reason.
GymnasticCapMasterish
Rich Paul- NBA
Drew Rosenhaus- NFL ..
I think that’s what you meant..
gfan
Rodon right back to Giants after Judge signing announced.
30 Parks
Rodon & Bassitt would be a solid pairing for most any team. Bassitt is underrated.
Yankee Clipper
Agreed. I liked him best out of the A’s pitchers last season. He’s going to be a great asset for someone. Dude is a bulldog. I had hoped the Yankees went with him over Montas when both were available, but they waited, and then they were left with only Montas. Hopefully Montas works out this season. Still like Bassitt better though.
WrongM
A crisp asset for someone, perhaps?
bwmiller
Montas has the ideal build and mechanics for a long term committment, he is built like Bartolo Colon, has a very short delivery, and the movement on his fastball is really something, he has potential to be good for a long time.
Yankee Clipper
BW: I agree with you, but I don’t think he’s well-suited to Yankee Stadium. His metrics support that. Bigger stadiums like Oak are really good for his pitching style – they have a huge foul territory too.
He just misses a bit too often while trying to nibble and gets hammered at YS.
If he went to one of the more pitcher-friendly parks/divisions, he would be excellent.
30 Parks
Interesting comparison, BW.
amk1920
Bassitt is overrated. Forfeit a 2nd round pick to sign an innings eater that is un-usable in October? No thanks
Ella B
He was horrible in his one playoff start for the Mets. He started 2 playoff games for the A’s in 2020, winning 1 game. A small sample size but not exactly un-usable. He’ll be in demand this winter.
angelsfan4life
Dodgers are in on every top FA. But have only one to a longer than a 3 year deal under this current ownership group. Now don’t get me wrong, the Dodgers are the best ran team in the MLB. That pains me to say that. I’m too the point, where agents leak the Dodgers name, to raise the offers of other teams.
BlueSkies_LA
According to who? Sportswriters connect the Dodgers to everybody because they assume the team can afford pretty much any player they really want. That’s the gist of this article too. But in reality the Dodgers offseason so far is characterized more by who they’ve lost than who they are considering, and even less so by anyone they are rumored to have meet with.
Samuel
angelsfan4life;
A number of teams are run better than the Dodgers….
Start with the Astros, Braves, Guardians and Orioles.
angelsfan4life
Blueskies, name me other than Freeman, the last FA the Dodgers signed to a contract longer than 3 years?
Samuel, give the Dodgers three years, and they will have a farm system ranked in the top 3. While winning 90+ games. You can’t say that about any of the teams, you mentioned. Besides that, when is the last time, the Dodgers lost 90+ games in a season. Much less have consecutive 90+ losing seasons.
BlueSkies_LA
I believe the answer to your question is Chris Taylor, and before that, Mookie Betts. But I’m not sure why you’re asking me this question.
LouWhitakerHOF
The Orioles? They are last almost every year and don’t ever like to spend. Except on Chris Davis.
Samuel
LouWhitakerHOF;
You judge how well run an MLB franchises’ organization is run with with how much money they spend on payroll?
LOL
Stand in the back of the class facing the wall.
laswagn
Guardians & Orioles, not close. Astros and Braves I’ll give you that, but not better, but just as good.
angelsfan4life
Betts was an extension. Chris Taylor was 3 year deal. Again other than Freeman the Dodgers haven’t given out big long term deals to FA.
Samuel
laswagn;
Re: The Guardians and Orioles…..
See stroh’s comment on Mr. Rodón below.
BlueSkies_LA
Chris Taylor was a four-year contract (covering 2022-25) with an option for 2026. If you don’t believe me you could look it up. Calling the Betts contract something other than long term because it was an extension is just too silly to warrant a response. I’m sure not interested in debating that, or any other distinctions without a difference.
But again, I have no idea why you are even asking me to respond to a point I never actually made. Care to respond to the one I actually did make?
angelsfan4life
BlueSkies Betts was never a FA. Ok I was wrong about Chris Taylor’s contract. You come on here, acting like the Dodgers sign every big FA. When I make a legitimate argument proving that is false. You get upset. I never said the Dodgers don’t spend money on players. I said they are smart and calculated about who they do spend it on. Something my favorite team, the Angels could learn. But there is a big difference between signing a player to an extension, vs signing a FA.
BlueSkies_LA
Good grief. I’ll take that as a no.
amk1920
How on earth are the Orioles ran better? They hit on some top draft picks after tanking. That doesn’t make them better. I don’t think the Braves are either just because their homegrown guys sign ridiculous team friendly extensions. Dodgers best young players were Boras guys who would never sign those types of deals.
whyhayzee
(Insert team name) interested in (insert player name).
That’s good for about ten thousand articles.
#1WhiteSoxFan
Exactly. I will check back next month.
Yankee Clipper
So true. But I still can’t stop clicking on the articles!
whyhayzee
I swear I don’t check more than two dozen times a day, but my wife says it’s a hundred.
SalaryCapMyth
Damn MLBTR. They act like they’re some baseball rumors site!
whyhayzee
But these aren’t TRADE rumors. They could just call themselves MLBR.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah! It should be MLBAR –
SalaryCapMyth
You are being intentionally naive. You understand very well FA rumors are included every bit as much as trades. Or would you really back off if the title was MLBT&FAR? If you would than you are simply having a semantic argument.
Jacksson13
The Twinkies “have interest” in every free agent baseball player in the universe.
These persistent leaks of their “interest” in big name (and ticket) free agents is just
posturing for the benefit of the team’s fan base.
When the teams pursuit of the marquee free agents falls short,
The team can plead the small market, low revenue card to it’s fans by releasing,
“WE TRIED” to their fans
While Jimmy Pohlad continues to count Papa Carl’s (Mr Cheap) expanding war chest of
LOOT !!
BlueSkies_LA
A correction/clarification: Kershaw is a free agent now, and he should be considered one until the rumored one-year contract is announced.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Twins ownership doesn’t even know how much money it has. The team turns a profit with non-competitive teams so there’s no point in paying to win.
bwmiller
the Giants need to sign Rodon, another starter, and a SS if they want to sign Judge, so they gauge were Judge is at over the holiday and if the chips start falling in that direction Judge is a possibility.
smacnc
Carlos Rodon fits perfectly in either 2 places…With the Mets, should DeGrom sign with another team or the Orioles where he immediately becomes the ace they so desire and a proven mentor to a very young starting staff..As 2023 progresses, Rodon, Rodriguez and Means could be a very challenging 3 pitchers for the rest of the American League to handle…
avenger65
as a left hander with exceptional stats over the past two seasons, Rodon belongs everywhere except for the wsox who used the lame arm-fatigue as a reason not to pay him what he deserved. they could’ve done the same thing the Giants did: give him a contract depending on innings pitched. Stupid reasoning like that is one reason why the won’t be a contender, either in the POs or the division.
BeeVeeTee
Carols Rodon had some elbow issues during his tenure with the White Sox where he had multiple procedures done to his pitching from arthroscopic surgery to his shoulder before getting Tommy John surgery. Rodon was overused in college where it seemed Tommy John surgery was eventually going to happen to him but the White Sox waited a season or two too late before he decided to do it.
DTD/ATL1313
He fits perfectly with any team trying to win
Samuel
smacnc;
The Orioles at too good and smart an organization to spend 35-50% of their payroll budget on a guy that’s an injury waiting to happen.
The only thing he’ll mentor their young pitchers on is how to do rehab.
smacnc
First of all, have been an O’s fanatic my entire life..Don’t need to tell me how they run an organization.. The plain truth these days is every dominant quality starting pitcher in MLB has had an injury history..Look at Walker Buehler, Max Scherzer, Kershaw, DeGrom, Verlander, Bieber, Sale and soon Ohtani will have his share because when your goal is to go out and try to throw the hardest and the fastest just to strike someone out, you are going to have injuries…So Rodon was injured, WOW Wee..He’s just like every other dominant starter out there…When his arm is healthy, he’s one of the top pitchers in the game the last couple seasons and he’s a Lefty…The O’s have not had a dominant ace since Mike Mussina and before that it was Jim Palmer….This team is going to have the type of damaging offense that the Houston Astros have had the last 5 years very soon…Its time for them to get a true ACE and if they have to slightly overspend to get this team back to being a dominant team in the AL East, then so be it…If your a GM/PBO and you are going to be afraid to sign or trade for a dominant starting pitcher because he’s been injured, then you might as well not run a front office in this era of Major League Baseball…
Samuel
smacnc;
If you know how the Orioles run an organization then you’d know that there is no way in the world they even bother to call Boras over Rodon,
While I respect your knowledge of the Orioles – mine goes back to Paul Richards when he was both GM and manager of the Orioles and built the foundation of a multi-decade contending team starting with young pitchers Steve Barber, Jim Palmer, Milt Pappas Jerry Walker and Chuck Estrada.
But the fact is that Mark Elias took over the O’s 3 years ago. His philosophies can be found by looking at how the Astros have been built. Furthermore, he learned MLB starting with the Cardinals that were still using Branch Rickey theories, and went to the Astros with Jeff Luhnow. All that comes full circle as the ‘Oriole Way’ of playing baseball was the same Branch Rickey style going back to the Browns (which he used to run) before the franchise moved to Baltimore.
And I repeat – there is no way in the world that Mark Elias is going to spend 35-50% of his payroll on one pitcher that might throw 175 innings a year IF he remains healthy – when a team pitches around 1,400 innings a year.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Sammy your gushing, emotive man-love for your precious Orioles is endearing yet problematic. If they are such the superior franchise why has it taken 5+ seasons to get any traction on a re-build , while the Seattle Mariners, who you poop on incessantly, got a rebuild done in 3 seasons and made it to the playoffs. Any reasonably efficient Front Office should not squander 5, 6+ years who knows how long on a never-ending rebuild that hasn’t even manifested yet.
Central Valley
Giants offer Judge a contract yet?
Yankee Clipper
They said they will have an offer to him within about a week. I believe that was per…..MLB tonight, perhaps? Sorry, I don’t recall the source off-hand.
Central Valley
Thank you
Yankee Clipper
It was MLB Network’s John Morosi….
twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1595427185115922432
bwmiller
Rodon, Verlander, Webb, DeSclafani, Wood — C- Bart, 1B – Belt, 2B – Crawford, SS – Bogaerts, 3B – Flores, LF – Pederson, CF – Judge, RF – Gonzalez, DH – Davis — thats making a splash in the cove.
DonOsbourne
There is so much injury probability in that lineup that I would say their chances of losing 100 is greater than their chances of winning 100. You’d be looking at a 1993 Mets-style disaster. I think the Giants will make different choices.
stroh
I realize Rodón will get a big contract based on last year, but given his injury history it will be a big risk for any team signing him. If he gives a team 2-3 good years on a 5 year deal then it would be a plus.
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
If I’m the Dodgers and I want to sign a pitcher to a long-term contract, I’d rather just extend my guy who’s going to be a free agent one year from now (Julio Urías). Rodón would be an awesome get but that’s a move they should have made last winter. His price went up, the number of years he’ll likely sign for increased, and there’s the draft pick you’re giving up as well.
If they want a star pitcher, just sign deGrom or Verlander. They would be more expensive annually, no doubt, but the Dodgers have the payroll this year to do that, and they won’t command as many years as Rodón will. As a fan, my pick is deGrom 100% of the time. From an economic standpoint, Verlander probably makes the most sense because he doesn’t cost you a draft pick. But I don’t see the Dodgers signing Rodón long-term when they have their own guy to sign long-term
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I agree. Extend Urias for around seven years 175 million. Sign Verlander for three years 120 million. Trade advanced pitching prospects for Amed Rosario and Alek Thomas.
angt222
Rodon to MIN was my MLBTR prediction for the FA contest.
grandsalametime
You can always count on the Dodders going after a Giants free agent. Rarely fails.
jk
Jason Schmidt? damn…grudge holder lol
smacnc
The plain truth these days is every dominant quality starting pitcher in MLB has had an injury history..Look at Walker Buehler, Max Scherzer, Kershaw, DeGrom, Verlander, Bieber, Sale and soon Ohtani will have his share because when your goal is to go out and try to throw the hardest and the fastest just to strike someone out, you are going to have injuries…So Rodon was injured, WOW Wee..He’s just like every other dominant starter out there…When his arm is healthy, he’s one of the top pitchers in the game the last couple seasons and he’s a Lefty…The O’s have not had a dominant ace since Mike Mussina and before that it was Jim Palmer….This team is going to have the type of damaging offense that the Houston Astros have had the last 5 years very soon…Its time for them to get a true ACE and if they have to slightly overpay to get this team back to being a dominant team in the AL East, then so be it…If your a GM/PBO and you are going to be afraid to sign or trade for a dominant starting pitcher because he’s been injured, then you might as well not run a front office in this era of Major League Baseball…
jeb39999
Great the Twins only need to outbid the Dodgers what could go wrong?
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Detroit Tigers should hire me.
I know how to deal/not deal with Mr. Boras.
Fullerton.