Mets GM Billy Eppler and manager Buck Showalter met with reporters (including Abbey Mastracco of the New York Daily News and Newsday’s Tim Healey) earlier this week, wrapping up the season and giving some idea about what to expect from the club this winter. Unsurprisingly, those plans may well include more spending, as owner Steve Cohen isn’t planning to cut payroll after the Mets set a new luxury tax high of approximately $298.8MM in 2022.
Eppler said that Cohen has already provided a “pretty close” idea of what the 2023 budget will be, with the idea that extra spending will act as a “bridge” to keep the Mets competitive until their farm system develops the depth to start consistently generating talent from within the organization.
“You want to keep as much of your talent as possible,” Eppler said. “That’s why Steve has said what he has said, which is: We’ll use some financial strength to keep us out of that position so that we can build something long-term.”
Hindsight is always 20-20 after a first-round playoff exit, especially when the Padres and Phillies have now advanced to the NLCS thanks to contributions from players who joined the team during the season. For all of the splashy moves the Mets made last winter, New York had a relatively quiet trade deadline, yet Eppler said he had “no regrets” about his transactions.
Of those midseason pickups, Daniel Vogelbach hit .255/.393/.436 with six homers in 183 plate appearances after being acquired by the Pirates in late July. Other midseason acquisitions like Darin Ruf, Mychal Givens, and Tyler Naquin all struggled after coming to Queens, but Eppler was pleased with the Mets were able to land Vogelbach “without robbing the future in a significant way.” Landing a bigger trade target would have cost the Mets some of the top prospects they hope can start contributing in the big leagues as soon as 2023.
In terms of offseason business, New York’s first priority is its own prominent set of free agents, a group that includes Jacob deGrom (when he opts out of his contract), Edwin Diaz, Brandon Nimmo, Chris Bassitt (if he declines his end of a mutual option), Taijuan Walker (if he declines a player option) and potentially Carlos Carrasco. The Mets seem likely to exercise their $14MM club option on Carrasco for 2023, though Eppler didn’t give any hints in this direction.
As to the more clear-cut free agents in deGrom, Diaz, and Nimmo, Eppler said the Mets will “have conversations with all three” before the free agent market opens: “We’ll get a sense of understanding their expectations, they’ll get a sense of understanding ours, and we’ll see if something can be executed. It’s talking to all three. It’s not prioritizing one over the other.”
In terms of specific needs, Eppler downplayed a potential need for more power in the lineup, saying “If it’s in the cards and it can happen, that’s one way to do it. But still honoring getting on base is an important aspect….I’m a fan of on-base percentage, I’m a fan of OPS in kind of simple terms.”
The Mets had a productive offense overall, as their collective 116 wRC+ was topped by only the Dodgers and Blue Jays. However, in terms of the power categories, the Mets were eighth of the 30 teams in slugging percentage, tied for 15th in home runs, and 16th in isolated power. This lack of extra pop stood out in the playoffs, as the Mets combined for three homers and a .326 slugging percentage in their three games against the Padres.
TradeAcuna
I think Bellinger and JD Martinez are good options for the Mets.
The Mets off season should center around their rotation first though. Make a decision regarding deGrom and Bassit, then go from there. They have the prospects and money to make a lot of high potential moves.
Cosmo2
I rather not on Martinez. I don’t like DH only types.
Ma4170
And he clearly seems to be in a steady decline from what he was at his peak… and the last two years he’s gone through slumps and power outages that last weeks
Rsox
Whats Vogelbach?
JD wouldn’t be bad on a one year deal. However i wonder if the Sox attach a QO to him if he declines it will it hamper him in free agency (Think Kendrys Morales in 2014)
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Kendrys Morales hahaha Sheesh Rsox you really dipped in to your historical bag of tricks on that one! Haha I’ll always be mad at him for busting his foot on his home run trot. He was never the same after that.
Cosmo2
I don’t like Vogelbach. I don’t like DH only players. Period.
iverbure
Neither do smart teams which is why half the argument for the DH was beyond stupid. Teams are too smart and roster flexibility and roster spots are too important to have some lumbering expensive 4 past his last usable season on your roster.
dugmet
Sign Carlos Correa for 3B. Move Escobar to a DH / utility role.
Joeyg39
I’ve got even a better idea. Why don’t the Mets sign Aaron Judge and have him catch?
Canosucks
Billy Eppler is not the guy by David Capobianco
read this article as I agree and I am not affiliated at all with this article
Eppler is a complete moron and that’s why the Angels fired him and he can not get the job done in NY no matter how many trillions Cohen spends.
Problem is both their egos wont allow them to admit they made a mistake
phenomenalajs
Ironically, the other JD performed better with the Giants after the deal than Ruf did with the Mets. It wasn’t worth throwing in any prospects to get Ruf when he didn’t offer any advantage at the plate or in the field over JD. Wilmer would’ve been a better all around deal, but he has since re-signed with SF.
It’s not worth it to spend a lot on a DH-type who isn’t at least a decent utility player. Mets need to concentrate on re-signing their own free agents and extending Alonso and McNeil before going after other big ticket FAs. Besides the big names listed in the article they should make a serious effort to retain Trevor Williams.
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Good luck Billy. Better off in Queens than Anaheim no doubt!
aragon
he showed no talent with the angels. not sure he gets to have some now.
JeffreyChungus
The scouting and drafting apparatus he put in place was terrible. The only players drafted during his time as GM to put up a positive WAR with the Angels are: Chris Rodriguez, Griffin Canning, Brandon Marsh, Kyle Tyler, Andrew Wantz, and Austin Warren.
4 relievers, a starter who’s been hurt for two years, and an OF who was traded
dirkg
Uh, Shohei Ohtanis agent is on line 1.
Eppler was one of the main architects in bringing Shohei to SoCal. He even learned Japanese as he felt the young Japanese player market was under scouted by MLB clubs.
VonPurpleHayes
What a facisnating offseason it’s going to be for the Mets. Technically this was a great year for them, but they just faltered at the worst times. Now they have so many decisions to make. I can’t picture deGrom in another uniform. Will Diaz be the best reliever in the game again? I fully expect the Mets to be in the division picture again in 2023, but it’s going to be a wild offseason.
TradeAcuna
You were a teacher’s pet in school, weren’t you? haha
VonPurpleHayes
Haha. Definitely not, but I get where you’re coming from.
User 2079935927
Don’t worry, Trade doesn’t know either.
Ma4170
I think Diaz is a must
Degrom I could see letting go and with that 45m they could prob land two sp, like rodon and taillon as an example… I like rodon bc we saw vs Atlanta and SD it hurt them to not have a quality LH sp
Curious to see if they’re willing to go 20-25m for Nimmo, who’s a valuable player, but I’m not sure if he’s really worth that much
Cosmo2
Ya think Diaz is gonna be consistently this good? Could probably get a closer for cheaper.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Cosmo2 the Mets bullpen is horrendous. These “cheap closers” you speak of have no experience at pitching in Citi Field in a Met uniform, nor are they as good as Diaz. The Mets need to reshape their whole bullpen. Start by resigning Diaz and Ottavino, then try to get Chapman for cheap (hopefully no one wants him), I dont know who else is a free agent this year. They also need starting rotation help. Scherzer and Peterson will be in the rotation which leaves 3 more spots to fill. I would try to resign Walker and Bassit, then get Sean Manaea on a one year bounce back deal. Can sign Mike Cleavinger as a back up option for a one year deal as well. If the Mets could somehow trade for someone like Shane Bieber or Lucas Giolito then they would replace one of the pitchers I named
Cosmo2
Hey I’m all for re-signing Diaz, I’m just always cautious about big deals and all relievers make me nervous.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Cosmo2 the difference with Diaz and say Familia is that Diaz has the velocity to overpower hitters while Familia was lucky at getting groundballs with his Splitter. I say this because the Familia contract was terrible and I never thought he was that good to begin with. Diaz is easily a top 3 closer with Emmanuel Clase and Hader
dugmet
Which one? Please identify.
SgtGrumbles
Chapman looks toast. Yanks left him off their Playoff roster.
phenomenalajs
I’m not sure what team you are talking about with a “horrendous” bullpen because the Mets’ bullpen finished 7th in ERA and tied for 3rd in winning percentage, yet you also said that it’s important for the Mets to re-sign Diaz and Ottavino. I agree with that last part and would add Trevor Williams to that list. Lefty support is something that would be good for the bullpen, but it is by no means “horrendous” nor should it get a complete makeover during the off-season.
dugmet
Curious what team is going to pay deGrom $45m?
Samuel
Oakland or Tampa Bay?
stanthefan
I wouldn’t be too surprised if the Braves do something daring. They’ve got so many team friendly contracts, and a DeGrom, Fried, Wright, Strider & whomever.
That’s the type of risk that might be too tempting not to take. Chance to have a rotation like those renaissance years of the 90’s.
I’m a Mets fan, but if I were in the Braves GM seat, I’d have a hard time not thinking about the possibility, & DeGrom has hinted he’d prefer being closer to home.
DakotaJoe
The Mets are going to have to increase payroll quite a bit. There is no way Walker is taking a $6M option. My guess is Bassitt, entering age 34 season, will not take the mutual option and will try for one more larger contract. I also can’t imagine deGrom in another uniform, but he’s going to want big money. He’ll turn 35 in June and has started all of 26 games the past two full seasons. I say they sign him because of what he’s meant to the franchise, but I doubt the team will get close to their money’s worth. Last year Diaz, Walker, McNeil and Ottavino cost them a total of $24M. They will have to come close to doubling that next season to see them all in uniform.
angt222
I’d inquire about Jose Abreu on a one year deal.
Holy Cow!
Abreu can get two easily, maybe three years.
Logistics Guy
The talk In here In Chicago Is that Steve Cohen Is trying to talk Theo Epstein Into becoming the POB / CEO of the Mets.
That would be interesting to see If that happens.
rct
If Theo came to the Mets and managed to get a WS, he would achieve some kind of unheard of status. He’s already a baseball God for helping end the Red Sox and Cubs streaks, if he threw the Mets on top of that, it would be unprecedented.
iverbure
He’s been trying that since he bought the team
DaOldDerbyBastard
All I ever hear from Cubs fans is that he depleted the farm to get the World Series win. I’m not exactly educated about the Cubs farm system so I have no clue who they lost but I’d be fine if it meant a Championship in the next couple years.
NatsFan15
Theo would be licking his chops… he could build a beast this off-season and then he’d double down at the deadline while trading the top 15 names in the farm system.
Definitely the quickest way to a title. But if Cohen wants consistent success, Theo is not his man.
NYMetsFanatic
I wonder if we see Khalil Lee in CF next year if for some reason a Nimmo contract doesn’t pan out for us. I know Cohen is going to make sure deGrom and Diaz are signed, but honestly I’m not really sure if we’re going to see Nimmo back. It’s just a feeling I have.
jt33nym
I think they’d probably sign for or trade for a veteran CF if Nimmo isn’t re-signed. Maybe take a chance on Bellinger if he’s non-tendered then call Lee up if it doesn’t work out and he’s doing well at Syracuse
Bill M
I think the ship has sailed on Lee. 5th outfielder at best
Canosucks
Lee was another bad BVM trade pickup!
phenomenalajs
I don’t get that take since they didn’t give up much for him. They gave up Josh Winckowski, who came from the Blue Jays in the Matz trade, and a PTBNL who turned out to be Freddy Valdez. Winckowski had close to a 6.00 ERA in the Red Sox bullpen and Valdez is a fringe prospect who hit below the Mendoza line in rookie ball this past season, so it’s basically a push if Lee doesn’t pan out.
Ella B
Hard pass on Bellinger and Lee is a backup at best.
Bellinger 2022-.210/.265/.389 with 19 homers in 504 at-bats.
SgtGrumbles
But he can play excellent D, so who cares. It’s not like he will cost much $.
User 401527550
Lee wont even be in the organization next year.
reckoner
Hopefully not. Khalil Lee is not the answer.
Cosmo2
I think the Khalil Lee experiment is pretty much dead.
Ma4170
Agreed… more likely Mangum than Lee… I wondered if they’d look at haniger or another cheaper OF and move marte to CF
Rsox
Marte’s time in CF is about done. Keeping Nimmo is the smart play because CF is such a terrible position league wide. JBJ, Kevin Kiermaier, Kevin Pillar, Odubel Herrera are the free agent options after Nimmo
Ma4170
It really has become a pretty barren position in recent years
jmaggio76
YES SIR!!! And move Palka up too, as another OF option off the bench
Cosmo2
I wonder if CF has actually become more barren in terms of talent or if it’s just that metrics are saying, hey, no one can actually play CF well. Also, the de-emphasis on speed has probably hurt the position. But yea, CFrs seem scarce these days. That and catchers who can field and hit better than a little leaguer.
EasternLeagueVeteran
I thought Palka should have gotten the calll before trading for Ruf. This will be the off-season they trade or Non-tender Dominic Smith.
phenomenalajs
Unfortunately, I don’t think anyone will offer the Mets anything for him since it’s basically a given he will be non-tendered.
Cosmo2
Yea I think Dom is in Ike Davis territory. The territory Ike was in after the Mets had already said no to all offers and he continued to decline. Trade value is now, sadly, a puff of smoke at best. I really enjoy watching Dom play but his value is shot.
jmaggio76
I honestly hope not. Khalil has shown no worth at all. offensively he’s nothing short of a disaster. it would be a step back, significantly, if they brought him up. they should look to move Marte to CF, and promote Jake Magnum AND Dan Palka, both RFs, and good… in AAA.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@jmaggio76 I agree with giving Magnum a chance, he likes McNeil were he never got called up even though he hit for a high average in every minor league season he played in
DaOldDerbyBastard
I’m not as confident as you about deGrom. I think he walks. I’d love to see him spend the rest of his career as a healthy Met.
Yankee Clipper
It’s nice to see an owner who doesn’t treat the CBT like smallpox.
CravenMoorehead
And a GM who has a love affair with players like IKF and Hicks.
rct
I agree. Cohen is rich enough to treat the CBT like Lacob does in the NBA. If Draymond opts in, the Warriors payroll for 2023-2024, including luxury taxes, would be like $480 million. But Lacob doesn’t care if it means being a top team.
iverbure
Spending doesn’t equal winning. It’s nice to see fans who understand that there’s like 5 on this site that intelligent enough to understand it.
rct
Spending doesn’t guarantee winning, but it absolutely improves a team’s chances of success. The correlation between payroll and winning exists, even in spite of the horrendous contracts that are passed out. There’s a reason the Marlins and Pirates (among many others) are perpetual basement dwellers.
Yankee Clipper
Rct is correct; but, for argument’s sake, let’s say rct is wrong about correlating spending & winning – why is it that so many people care about what larger markets spend then? If it doesn’t translate to wins, why does everyone demand reform to further curb spending by the Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, Pads, etc, and speak about spending in terms of competitive balance? It can’t be both ways.
Cosmo2
Everyone demands it because “everyone” is kind of an idiot. It’s a misunderstanding of fans, that’s all.
Cosmo2
Rct, that is kind of a false equivalency. NOT spending at all severely hurts a teams chances of winning, yes. That doesn’t mean that maxing out payroll or handing out giant contracts is a good idea.
Yankee Clipper
Cosmo: Yeah, it is a misunderstanding. And, I shouldn’t have written “everyone “ because clearly it isn’t. I meant everyone who aligns with that premise.
I also don’t think spending alone equals winning. Lord knows Yankees have spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas, which certainly doesn’t translate to winning. I believe it’s more the general concept of spending to acquire the necessary talent to win. Conversely, those teams that cut at all costs stay at the bottom of the barrel….
User 401527550
maybe it’s time for you to become a Rays fan. The Mets are obviously going to spend a lot of money and the Rays align more with your values. You’ll be able to brag every year how you traded away players before you had to pay them.
rhswanzey
Bill James developed Isolated Power (ISO) in the ‘80s – that’s not a Fangraphs metric
Superstar Prospect Wander Javier
Weirdly worded, huh? “Fangraphs’ isolated power metric”… ISO is just SLG-AVG. It is the same on any site.
drasco036
The problem I see for cohen is that he still has Anderson and Epller making decisions… he can spend all the money in the world but when you have those two making baseball decisions it won’t matter.
Cosmo2
Some very questionable in season trades that’s for sure.
padam
Signing Marte and trading for Bassett weren’t good moves? Escobar? I’d say he did relatively well for his first year and didn’t move any of the prospects they’d like to keep. As for the in season deals, who knows what theft other teams were trying to commit that he probably didn’t bite on. And considering where they were at the deadline and getting DeGrom back was equal to any deal they could’ve possibly made.
Cosmo2
Was a good off season but a terrible in season. Would’ve been better off making no in season trades for what they did. But a very good off season for sure.
Canosucks
@padam how about the fact that Atlanta made better in season moves than that moron Eppler and gave up less talent than Eppler did in his one move for Darrin Duf (Ruf)!
Do you recall what team overtook the Mets?
Oh btw the Giants are calling that trade Farhan’s heist of Eppler!
Boy washed up Ruf went 10-66 to bat .152 and Mets sill owe that bum 3 million next year!
5toolMVP
Yet those two assembled a roster that won 101 games. The playoffs is a crapshoot.
MTG
You can hedge your bets though. Defense and a great Bullpen will buy your team innings to try and score runs. We’ve seen team after team with a fearsome lineup get carved up by good pitching.
If you don’t give up runs you don’t need to score as many runs.
Doug
Shopping in the Canha, Escobar, Naquin, Ruf, Givens bargain bin didn’t work out too well!.
Yankee Clipper
True, but honestly, nearly every team went shopping in the bargain bin. On the bright side, at least they only did that as a supplement to good MLB players – some owners used the bargain bin to construct their entire roster for like……the past ten years.
rct
Cahna and Escobar (especially late in the season for Eduardo) were fine moves. Givens was as well; after a horrible first appearance, he pitched 20 innings of 2.70 ERA ball.
Naquin and Ruf were awful, though.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Doug Canha was one of the most clutch Mets all year. He basically didnt hit at all in September and beyond. Escobar didnt hit all year accept for September and beyond. Both were fine moves but I think they can still upgrade in those areas
SgtGrumbles
Why? Canha and Escobar are known, and proven to produce positive results. It’s committed money on essentially 1 year deals at this point. Mets have 3/4ths of their SP and RP walking out the door and should prioritize those holes.
Armaments216
The Mets still have all their top prospects so at least that worked out well. In the offseason all you need to spend is money.
brucenewton
Bring back deGrom, Diaz, Nimmo and add Judge.
ChuckyNJ
Professional brown-noser Mike Lupica approves of that M.O.
Seriously, a ballclub that’s in the luxury tax should not be going deeper just to buy the Commissioner’s Trophy.
rct
No chance. If they keep all of those players, they’ll be bargain hunting, not adding a $40 million piece in Judge.
jmaggio76
I would like to see the Mets sign Bassit, Walker and Eovaldi. These 3 plus Scherzer and maybe Peterson or a Minor Leaguer, maybe Fisher from AAA to take the 5 spots. Move Marte to CF, look into Benintendi or promote Palka and Magnum from AAA for RF. Sign Abreau for DH and spell 1B.
get rid of McCann for sure, any way possible.
For relief, sign Chafin and Taylor Rogers. either Megill or Peterson to bullpen. Promote Hartwig, Clay and Cobb from AAA.
not signing DeGrom, Nimmo and quite few others allows them to move up the AAA players who ARE making headway to get up and start making an impact. I would sign Diaz as the one sure option. maybe finalize the bullpen with Chase Anderson.
just my opinion… any respectful thoughts or comments? this would open payroll to be more manageable, and allow mid season movement without breaking the bank. and with this layout, I am figuring around a 230m payroll to start.
wright1970
jmaggio, the rotation ideas are mediocre because Bassitt is a true #3-4 starter and the same for Walker. i dont even know what we can expect for Max in 2023. The Mets will be hard pressed to repeat 101 wins IMO…..free agency should be exciting but im not optimistic with Eppler and Sandy running the team…. we need Rodon if Jake leaves
jmaggio76
I do agree. and honestly I am very concerned with Scherzer. he clearly rushed back from his last injury and it showed. DeGrom looked very basic at the end, albeit he did perform in the playoffs of course. but still, in my opinion, he isn’t worth the 40+m he wants. maybe 35? and honestly for him… I think he should leave NY. his numbers would greatly increase lol. they’ve done nothing, Mets wise, to help his career. they don’t hit, barely score and barely win when he does. on the dodgers, Yankees or even the braves, he’s a clear 15+ win pitcher every year. I’d wanna leave NY just for that alone. but still we could get two maybe even 3 starters at that price. I do agree, Bassit and walker number 3 and 4 for starters. which is why I mentioned Eovaldi. thanks for keeping it civil, would love to hear more of your thoughts.
wright1970
jmaggio76, Eovaldi is worse than Walker or Bassitt but Rodon would be a nice pickup. we need another big bat IMO as well. Canha and Escobar are depth pieces and im not sure that Cohen will dish out the money to keep Nimmo……Mets will be hard pressed to repeat this year….
SgtGrumbles
This is nonsense, players producing over 2 WAR over a season are regulars on almost any team.
wright1970
oh stop grumbling!! 2 WAR players are just average players…
User 401527550
I would resign Degrom, Nimmo, Diaz and bassitt. Trade for one of the brewers aces and are plan on Baty, Alvarez and Vientos to be playing on opening day and build a better bullpen.
Cosmo2
Sounds good. What’s the payroll stand at? Infinity?
User 401527550
I imagine Cohen has no problem going to 350 mil but what’s your idea? Let everyone walk and sign cheaper replacements to save a 20 billionaire a few bucks? The Mets already told all of them they wanted long term deals with them.
Cosmo2
I certainly don’t think it’s smart to go to a 350 million dollar payroll. Maybe some smart but less obvious moves.
Cosmo2
And it’s not saving Cohen a few bucks. It’s about running a successful business that sustains itself and has a sustainable winning model. Seriously, spending does not equal winning. It just equals spending.
User 401527550
We all know that. The Mets know that but like they said they have to spend big until their farm system can produce year after year. The Brewers pitchers only have a 11 mil expected arbitration number. About what Walker got paid this year.
Cosmo2
They are already spending big. 350 million is beyond big, it’s absurd and will cripple the future.
User 401527550
Why would it cripple the future?
Cosmo2
There is a limit to payroll for everyone. The more money committed now, the less flexibility in the future. You need flexibility to make moves from season to season. Can’t do that if you start out with a maxed out payroll. Spending doesn’t equal winning. I know you say everyone knows this but the way you are talking it doesn’t sound like you really get it.
Benjamin101677
Any team that exceeds the luxury tax by 40 million has their tip draft pick moved down 10 spots probably removes them from having a first round pick for several years.
With the Braves and Phillies in the same division the Mets could spend huge; get taxed; loose draft pick and draft pool money and maybe still not win the division. So you could have a team with high non movable contracts; a farm system getting weaker and a team that still doesn’t win the division
SgtGrumbles
If you spend too much the Luxury Tax also penalizes draft pick position 10 places.
User 401527550
I don’t think you get it. There has never been a mlb owner even close to how wealthy Cohen is. Spending does help winning if it’s done correctly. The Mets revenue doubled last year when cohen opened up his wallet. You act like major money won’t be coming off the payroll are it will even make a dent in cohens finances.
User 401527550
Is there a big difference from 30 to 40?
Cosmo2
YOU don’t get it, Cohen’s wealth matters very little. Players get payed by the team not the owners pocket. Do you really think they have an unlimited payroll? Or that it isn’t insane to run a team not caring about money? Fans and their delusions of an unlimited budget.
User 401527550
Cohen put hundreds of millions of his money into the Mets coffers for this scenario. Baseball implemented rules in the cba because they know Cohen is going to spend big. It’s not like he is losing money. The value of the team will go through the roof.
Cosmo2
Team value will not go through the roof. You don’t know that. You are talking nonsense. Not how this business works. There’s always fans that think that if an owner spends his own money (not how it works) that the team will automatically reap more profits. Beyond naive. I’m sorry but just typical fan, not-my-money, baseball-works-different-than-every-other-business nonsense.
User 401527550
You have zero clue what you are talking about. Cohen has already put the money into the Mets accounts. They have stated this was their goal. You are arguing with what they stated their plan is. Cohen has already stream lined their money to make the team twice as profitable. Their payroll has gone from 180 to 300 million in two years and your arguing that they can’t or won’t spend. Do some research on the Mets finances and their plans before stating someone doesn’t know what they are talking about. The article above says the plan to bring people back and you still argue they will not.
Cosmo2
They have spent already. We are talking about the future. They ALREADY have a huge payroll. Do you think they are going to double it? Or that it would make sense to do so?
Cosmo2
And I’m not saying they won’t bring everyone back. I just can’t imagine what the payroll would be. It would be high enough that it would very much hurt the future ability to spend. The idea that Cohen’s magical pockets means unlimited payroll is ridiculously childish. I really doubt they go as high as 350 and it would be foolish to do so.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Cohen has a net worth of 16 Billion, Rogers, the Blue Jays owner has a net worth of 11.5 Billion. That’s pretty close.
padam
@cosmo – how do you think he bought the team? Out of his pocket.
padam
@cosmo – Warriors are $500M in and they play half the games with half the roster.
padam
@cosmo. Yes. That’s why MLB created the ‘Cohen’ rule.
padam
A heist with JD Davis? Really? You’re talking about JD Davis, not Nolan Ryan.
padam
Don’t forget Bassett.
Cosmo2
Ugh. Yes he bought the team out of pocket. He doesn’t pay the players out of pocket, which is the point. C’mon now.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Mets gotta bring back Nimmo. His OBP atop a good line up is a major plus.
I’d make a QO to deGrom. That way we’re only on the hook for one year if he accepts. JMHO, but he should. Giving long-term contracts for big bucks to SP on the wrong side of thirty-five never ends well.
You don’t have to spend big for a closer. This year, only three NL teams ended the year with the same closer they had on Opening Day. And one of the three (Dotel) was often used earlier in a game. Diaz and Jansen (Spent time on the IL) were the other two.
3B has been a black hole for the Mets ever since Wright retired. Spend there or play the kids.
Finally, Cohen only cares about winning. He’s the modern version of Steinbrenner. To wit, with Cohen’s wallet and passion to win, the Mets can be atop the NL East for years.
iverbure
And how does he expect to get a brewers ace while keeping those young guys he wants to play? Fans are most unrealistic people.
User 401527550
Kevin Parada is a top prospect catcher. They have one coming up next year. How is it unrealistic. You know those three aren’t the only young talent they have.
cleonswoboda
Parada is probably a better prospect than Alvarez,especially behind the plate,though he’s at least 3 years away.
User 401527550
Probably but top end starters aren’t free
rct
How are you trading for a Brewers ace while keeping Baty, Alvarez, and Vientos?
User 401527550
Parada
cleonswoboda
gotta keep Parada.,Alverez ,Baty,and Vientos looked over matched at the MLB level,though only in a small amount of at bats.
Yankee Clipper
The only issue here is that trading for one of the Brewers two stud SPs means the Mets are giving up top prospect talent.
In other words, it’s counterintuitive to what the Mets said they are going to do, which is spend money to bridge the gap until their prospects are ready.
Perhaps they consider LHP Rodon in place of one of their RH FA pitchers?
User 401527550
Rodin will cost twice as much as the Brewers pitchers next year. I would have no problem with Rodin.
Cosmo2
Clipper: Exactly. Can’t have your cake and eat it too. Can’t bide time while spending big to win now, counting on future call ups for later AND trade those call ups to win now.
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
I could see the Mets re-signing 2 of Carrasco, Bassitt, and Walker..Going hard after Rodon, letting deGrom walk, and letting someone else massively overpay for Diaz and Nimmo (both of whom I think their career years this year)..then going for depth pieces with bounce back potential like Wil Myers, Haniger, etc..and possibly bringing in Suarez to close. Should definitely be an interesting off-season..
LFGMets (Metsin7)
Worst GM in the game. Theres a reason why the Angels never made the playoffs with 2 of the best players in the game on the roster with him at the helm of it all. Showalter was responsible for the Mets great regular season which could of been even better if Eppler made moves to adress the relief staff especially, our catching, and the DH spot. Vogelbach is a mediocre hitter that can’t run at all, a 4 year old is faster than him. Trading JD Davis for Ruf might be the worst trade I’ve seen in a while. Teams like the Padres and Phillies were able to improve, even getting some key peices like Robertson, Hader, and Drury without giving up key prospects. You have limited chances to content for a World Series. Im not saying you have to necesarrily drain the farm but, if you see potential in your team you must make some sort of a splash to fill in areas of improvement on your team. Its obvious that Eppler is not cut out to be a GM and would be better off scrubbing the bathrooms at Citi Field.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Angels’ problem wasn’t Eppler, it was/is the owner Arte Moreno and has been that way for
a long time. The Mets won 101 games and had the division lead for most of the season. I’d call it a success compared to ones of the past decade.
EasternLeagueVeteran
YankeeBleacherCreature you are correct. The Angels problem has been Artie Moreno, and a bad long-term decision on Pujols which came before Eppler. Moreno compounded it by not spending out of it, but sitting back an holding the reins on the cash flow, expecting he and Trout to pull the rest of the team along, and then adding Ohtani which boosted the team but left them with 22 other guys who were mediocre. Never built a starting pitching staff to carry the Angels thru a season near the too.
JoeBrady
$300M is about to be blown away. Not to make this a Yankee thing, but some Yankee fans have to wondering how the NYMs can afford $300M while the NYY won’t go above ~ $230M.
LGM!
For the money and injuries let DeGrom go. Put the franchise tag on him. Keep Bass and Cookie. I was shocked went JD was sent packing bad move. Anyone heard anything about Dom?
iverbure
What’s the franchise tag? If you don’t know how these things work don’t have opinions on them.
BobGibsonFan
Just curious… mutual option… has it ever happened where the player and team opt out?
jorge78
They should let DeGrom go. He is an injury bomb waiting to go off…..
jorge78
I hope Manfred juices the ball again next season. No offense is boring.
Bill M
Taking the shift away will bring a bit more offense. Not a fan of the juiced ball myself
LGM!
Sorry didn’t use the approved term for you, of which you have obviously never done. I did notice your parents made the wrong choice, but I’m sure they have told you that.
JackStrawb
Thinking that the Mets did well is mere foolishness.
Cohen inherited / bought a 40 WAR core and was able to run a $300 million payroll. His FO blundered in their first major move, with Lindor, and blundered again with Scherzer. They spent the price of two Cy Young candidates in the starting rotation for a 37 yo who had faded in the stretch the previous year. and only went 145 innings in 2022 before blowing up against the Braves, then the Padres.
This was intelligent? With what the Mets started with, 100 wins should have been the very least expected from them given the context. Instead, they got on the FA treadmill and built the oldest team in baseball, that will only be older next season and need an infusion of even more 30 year old FA’s to keep them in the game. This is Steinbrenner at his worst.
Imagine trading Giminez and Rosario, who were worth twice Lindor by rWAR in 2022, paying him $34.1m in 2022 when the first two made about $5m, and thinking you were ‘successful.’ It’s incredible, really.