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Marlins Down To Four Managerial Finalists

By Steve Adams | October 24, 2022 at 11:30am CDT

11:30am: Heyman tweets that the Marlins have narrowed the group down to four and expect to make a decision soon. Heyman tweets that the Marlins have narrowed the group down to four and expect to make a decision soon. Raul Ibanez was interviewed early in the process but is not among the four, Heyman adds.

Craig Mish of SportsGrid and the Miami Herald reports that former Mets skipper Luis Rojas, who’s currently the Yankees’ third base coach, also secured a second interview, suggesting that he’s the fourth (and apparently last) finalist in the mix for the job.

9:37am: The Marlins are continuing to narrow the field in their search for manager Don Mattingly’s successor and have deemed a handful of names to be finalists in their search. Per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times, Rays bench coach Matt Quatraro and Astros bench coach Joe Espada are among a “small field” of finalists in Miami. Jon Heyman of the New York Post adds Cardinals bench coach Skip Schumaker to the list of finalists.

Both Quatraro and Espada were considered finalists in last offseason’s Mets managerial search, before the team ultimately hired a more experienced option in the form of veteran Buck Showalter. The Marlins, it seems, are taking a different approach; the entire group of known candidates to have interviewed in Miami would be first-time managers at the big league level. Quatraro and Espada have both interviewed with at least five teams for managerial vacancies in recent years.

Schumaker, meanwhile, is a fast-rising name in the coaching ranks himself. The former big league utilityman was playing in the Majors as recently as 2015 and landed his first Major League coaching gig when the Padres named him first base coach in the 2017-18 offseason. San Diego eventually elevated him to the unusual title of “associate manager,” before the Cardinals, for whom he played eight Major League seasons, tabbed him as their new bench coach a year ago. Along the way, Schumaker has also interviewed for managerial vacancies with the Mets and Red Sox.

Other names known to have interviewed thus far include Royals bench coach Pedro Grifol and Phillies third base coach Dusty Wathan. Braves bench coach Walt Weiss reportedly declined an opportunity to interview, though the fact that there was even interest suggests that the Marlins aren’t dead-set on hiring a rookie skipper. Weiss spent four seasons as the Rockies’ manager from 2013-16.

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57 Comments

  1. 377194

    3 years ago

    Managing the Marlins is a no win situation. You’re gonna lose a bunch of games and if you develop an in house star, he’s traded.

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    • iverbure

      3 years ago

      That’s how good small market teams operate. The trick is to continue to develop them and trade them at their highest value, it’s usually when the fans want them signed. Do the opposite of what the fans want is generally a good way to stay competitive and have sustainable success while staying within a budget, something broke fans who carry 100k in debt don’t understand how to do.

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      • iBleeedBlue

        3 years ago

        Broke fans with 100k in debt don’t own a baseball team to subsidize their lifestyle while avoiding said debt, unlike the broke (by large market owner standards) owners of these small market teams who refuse to field a team that will raise the cost of operations beyond their means and force the sale of their nest egg. All owners invest, but some I argue (speaking as a Dodger fan who survived Frank McCourt) do so mostly nefariously in terms of robbing Peter (us diehards) to pay Paul (their other investments and lavish lifestyle). All businessman do it, some care about the product, some don’t. It must really suck rooting for the Walmart or McDonald’s of the MLB.

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        • iverbure

          3 years ago

          Mr. Ibleedblue , what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

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        • iverbure

          3 years ago

          It must suck to not live in reality.

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        • iBleeedBlue

          3 years ago

          Opinion jousting on the internet is reality?

          Reply
        • iBleeedBlue

          3 years ago

          Baseball is a business. Not winning and having no fans is not good business. Spin it however you want, but the average fan does not have an MBA or any real business sense, other than perhaps the old adage that the customer is always (mostly) right.

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    • So many crybaby Mets fans

      3 years ago

      I’d rather manage a team that has talent and can surprise and win than not manage at all. It’s an absolute win situation. Marlins have the talent to compete.

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  2. Gator Bait

    3 years ago

    You are going to live in Miami and make millions. Not too bad of a situation.

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    • Braves Butt-Head

      3 years ago

      You’re going to live in Miami and make millions but get fired in 3 years when you can only win 70 games a season and Sandy Alcanta gets traded to the Yankees for a bag of balls.

      Reply
      • Braves Butt-Head

        3 years ago

        Alcantara

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      • brandons-3

        3 years ago

        So you’re going to live in Miami, make a few million, and then not have to work the last one or two years of the contract while still collecting a check?

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    • 377194

      3 years ago

      The stress will kill ya.

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  3. cwsOverhaul

    3 years ago

    Espada in an interesting spot if he becomes a top choice. If Astros win and Dusty is content to exit on that note, seems like he’d prefer to be offered that gig……unless the $ from Hou aren’t going to be high b/c of stacked roster compared to what desperate clubs may offer trying to right the ship.

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  4. Habeto

    3 years ago

    Even though the focus is to hire a manager, I would expect the Fish are also a looking to replace both Rowson (bench coach) and Thames (hitting coach).

    Would be wonderful if the can hire both Quatraro and Espada.

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    • thickiedon

      3 years ago

      Quatraro/Rojas
      Heads are gonna roll in NY. If I’m Rojas, I’d gladly take the bench coach job in Miami if the manager seat isn’t available.

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    • GareBear

      3 years ago

      Neither of those guys will go to a worse team for a lateral/lesser role

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      • thickiedon

        3 years ago

        Mgr will be going up the ladder for Quatraro.
        NY will probably fire Boone thus a new mgr can choose his staff. Rojas might want to fill a bench coach spot that would be an upgrade from his current role (3B co) with Yanks.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          It’s unlikely that Boone will be fired. The Yankees were third in average and total attendance, and their TV revenue increased.

          It’ll be a loss to the Yankees if Rojas leaves for the Miami job. He was an uncommonly good third base coach who had a big impact on the Yankees’ ability to control the running game.

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  5. keysox

    3 years ago

    Leave up to a bidding war.
    Thus low man wins

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    • Edp007

      3 years ago

      Yes, every candidate brings a sealed bid to the interview. As you say. Low man wins

      Reply
  6. phillyphilly4133

    3 years ago

    Phils in 5

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    • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

      3 years ago

      I’ll settle for Phillies in six, but five would be nice. Gotta split the first two in Houston and then win out in Philly.

      Reply
  7. MrStomper 2

    3 years ago

    Ugh

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  8. User 2079935927

    3 years ago

    Phil go down in 5?

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  9. Central Valley

    3 years ago

    How come the Marlins and Rays have difficulty drawing crowds, resulting in small payrolls making it difficult to keep talent?

    You’d think Florida, especially with their retiree folks, would be a great location for successful MLB teams?

    I live in California, but was just curious.

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    • tim2686

      3 years ago

      Poor locations and distance from city centers is what I have heard over the years.

      Reply
    • boastrogot

      3 years ago

      how do you explain the A’s then

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      • Central Valley

        3 years ago

        Crappy stadium, a ballpark location where people don’t feel safe and a team that can’t keep their talent.

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  10. rememberthecoop

    3 years ago

    Miami doesn’t want to pay an experienced manager when they can sign a first-year candidate for less than 1M per year.

    Reply
  11. Braves Butt-Head

    3 years ago

    Mlb should relocate the As, Ray’s and Marlins

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    • thickiedon

      3 years ago

      Las Vegas, Austin, Nashville

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      • Steinbrenner2728

        3 years ago

        *Oakland, Tampa, Miami

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    • Big Smoke

      3 years ago

      They should relocate the A’s, Rays, and Marlins to Oakland, Tampa, and Miami, respectively.

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  12. boastrogot

    3 years ago

    Heyman tweets that the Marlins have narrowed the group down to four and expect to make a decision soon.

    Reply
  13. fre5hwind

    3 years ago

    “ we started with about 500 managers”

    Reply
  14. Rick Wilkins

    3 years ago

    I laughed at your name and your comment.

    Reply
    • utah cornelius

      3 years ago

      Because you’re 13.

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      • Rick Wilkins

        3 years ago

        Not really. Richard Penis IV is a funny name regardless of your age. Suck it Cornelius.

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        • TheRealMilo

          3 years ago

          Yeah – suck it Cornelius.

          1
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        • utah cornelius

          3 years ago

          Like I said. 13, even with your reply.

          1
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      • .

        3 years ago

        Utah, based off what I know of psycholinguistics and patterns, and a few other things, I would surmise that Roy Demeo and TheRealMilo are one in the same…

        1
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        • Richard Penis IV

          3 years ago

          Shocking accusation

          Reply
        • utah cornelius

          3 years ago

          Trumbo – Yeah, and DeMeo and Milo might just be the penis dude, too. Three mutually supportive, sophomoric attention seekers.

          2
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        • .

          3 years ago

          A lot of people with burner accounts make fatal mistakes when selecting their alter egos. They engrain unintentional similarities in their new name. Same with their speech patterns and comments. Once I get annoyed enough I mute them anyway.

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        • Rick Wilkins

          3 years ago

          I assure you, it’s just me. Not sure why Corny even had to reply. I was simply stating the guy’s name was funny. Cornball was just being a turd.

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        • utah cornelius

          3 years ago

          Still a 13 year-old. Must be arrested development.

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        • DarkSide830

          3 years ago

          scandal in the MLBTR comment section!

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  15. kroeg49

    3 years ago

    It’s just like the Chicago White Sox, waiting for other teams to make their managerial decisions, so we can hire one of the scraps left over.

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  16. Rsox

    3 years ago

    Did Heyman say if a “mystery team” was involved?…

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  17. MarlinsFanBase

    3 years ago

    So, it’s down to the following:

    Luis Rojas
    Skip Schumaker
    Matt Quatraro
    Joe Espada

    I hope Rojas was just a courtesy call. Dear goodness. We learned by playing against him that he was far from being the right guy. Granted, he was managing an overrated roster, and he may have been overly criticized, but he wasn’t exactly showing competence either.

    I think I’m ok with the others…and will see once they actually start managing.

    I do know one thing. If Ng doesn’t add a Closer, it won’t matter which of these get the job. They will have a lead going into the 7 to 9th innings, and the bullpen will blow it.

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    • Habeto

      3 years ago

      Totally agree with you.

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    • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

      3 years ago

      And how exactly do the Marlins get so many late inning leads that spending big bucks for a closer is the elixir destined to save (pun intended!) the day? Their offense might be the most offensive (again, pun intended!) in all of baseball. And now they’re stuck with those Garcia and Soler contracts. Things are pretty bad when M. Rojas is your most consistent hitter, and I don’t mean that as an insult to Rojas. The bar being set so low makes it so.

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      • Habeto

        3 years ago

        You might not be aware of this, but the Marlins converted 41 of 72 save opportunities this season, making them 6th-worst in SV/SVO ratio. In addition, the Marlins’ relievers are 22nd in ERA and T-21st in holds.

        So even though it is not the biggest problem (run production is, obviously), an average bullpen would have helped with 5-7 more wins.

        Many things are to be addressed, and after getting two solid bats, a closer is the most flagrant need for this team.

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          3 years ago

          Exactly. When you see so many games where the Marlins take leads into the late innings, and they still lose, it starts with a Closer issue. The rest of the guys need to go back into lesser roles.

          Reply
  18. User 2079935927

    3 years ago

    You can view the 4 Finalist this coming Saturday night on ME-TV at 6 PM Moe, Shemp, Larry and Curley.

    Reply
  19. Richard Penis IV

    3 years ago

    Your comment is very

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