11:30am: Heyman tweets that the Marlins have narrowed the group down to four and expect to make a decision soon. Heyman tweets that the Marlins have narrowed the group down to four and expect to make a decision soon. Raul Ibanez was interviewed early in the process but is not among the four, Heyman adds.
Craig Mish of SportsGrid and the Miami Herald reports that former Mets skipper Luis Rojas, who’s currently the Yankees’ third base coach, also secured a second interview, suggesting that he’s the fourth (and apparently last) finalist in the mix for the job.
9:37am: The Marlins are continuing to narrow the field in their search for manager Don Mattingly’s successor and have deemed a handful of names to be finalists in their search. Per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times, Rays bench coach Matt Quatraro and Astros bench coach Joe Espada are among a “small field” of finalists in Miami. Jon Heyman of the New York Post adds Cardinals bench coach Skip Schumaker to the list of finalists.
Both Quatraro and Espada were considered finalists in last offseason’s Mets managerial search, before the team ultimately hired a more experienced option in the form of veteran Buck Showalter. The Marlins, it seems, are taking a different approach; the entire group of known candidates to have interviewed in Miami would be first-time managers at the big league level. Quatraro and Espada have both interviewed with at least five teams for managerial vacancies in recent years.
Schumaker, meanwhile, is a fast-rising name in the coaching ranks himself. The former big league utilityman was playing in the Majors as recently as 2015 and landed his first Major League coaching gig when the Padres named him first base coach in the 2017-18 offseason. San Diego eventually elevated him to the unusual title of “associate manager,” before the Cardinals, for whom he played eight Major League seasons, tabbed him as their new bench coach a year ago. Along the way, Schumaker has also interviewed for managerial vacancies with the Mets and Red Sox.
Other names known to have interviewed thus far include Royals bench coach Pedro Grifol and Phillies third base coach Dusty Wathan. Braves bench coach Walt Weiss reportedly declined an opportunity to interview, though the fact that there was even interest suggests that the Marlins aren’t dead-set on hiring a rookie skipper. Weiss spent four seasons as the Rockies’ manager from 2013-16.
377194
Managing the Marlins is a no win situation. You’re gonna lose a bunch of games and if you develop an in house star, he’s traded.
iverbure
That’s how good small market teams operate. The trick is to continue to develop them and trade them at their highest value, it’s usually when the fans want them signed. Do the opposite of what the fans want is generally a good way to stay competitive and have sustainable success while staying within a budget, something broke fans who carry 100k in debt don’t understand how to do.
iBleeedBlue
Broke fans with 100k in debt don’t own a baseball team to subsidize their lifestyle while avoiding said debt, unlike the broke (by large market owner standards) owners of these small market teams who refuse to field a team that will raise the cost of operations beyond their means and force the sale of their nest egg. All owners invest, but some I argue (speaking as a Dodger fan who survived Frank McCourt) do so mostly nefariously in terms of robbing Peter (us diehards) to pay Paul (their other investments and lavish lifestyle). All businessman do it, some care about the product, some don’t. It must really suck rooting for the Walmart or McDonald’s of the MLB.
iverbure
Mr. Ibleedblue , what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
iverbure
It must suck to not live in reality.
iBleeedBlue
Opinion jousting on the internet is reality?
iBleeedBlue
Baseball is a business. Not winning and having no fans is not good business. Spin it however you want, but the average fan does not have an MBA or any real business sense, other than perhaps the old adage that the customer is always (mostly) right.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I’d rather manage a team that has talent and can surprise and win than not manage at all. It’s an absolute win situation. Marlins have the talent to compete.
Gator Bait
You are going to live in Miami and make millions. Not too bad of a situation.
Braves Butt-Head
You’re going to live in Miami and make millions but get fired in 3 years when you can only win 70 games a season and Sandy Alcanta gets traded to the Yankees for a bag of balls.
Braves Butt-Head
Alcantara
brandons-3
So you’re going to live in Miami, make a few million, and then not have to work the last one or two years of the contract while still collecting a check?
377194
The stress will kill ya.
cwsOverhaul
Espada in an interesting spot if he becomes a top choice. If Astros win and Dusty is content to exit on that note, seems like he’d prefer to be offered that gig……unless the $ from Hou aren’t going to be high b/c of stacked roster compared to what desperate clubs may offer trying to right the ship.
Habeto
Even though the focus is to hire a manager, I would expect the Fish are also a looking to replace both Rowson (bench coach) and Thames (hitting coach).
Would be wonderful if the can hire both Quatraro and Espada.
thickiedon
Quatraro/Rojas
Heads are gonna roll in NY. If I’m Rojas, I’d gladly take the bench coach job in Miami if the manager seat isn’t available.
GareBear
Neither of those guys will go to a worse team for a lateral/lesser role
thickiedon
Mgr will be going up the ladder for Quatraro.
NY will probably fire Boone thus a new mgr can choose his staff. Rojas might want to fill a bench coach spot that would be an upgrade from his current role (3B co) with Yanks.
Poster formerly known as . . .
It’s unlikely that Boone will be fired. The Yankees were third in average and total attendance, and their TV revenue increased.
It’ll be a loss to the Yankees if Rojas leaves for the Miami job. He was an uncommonly good third base coach who had a big impact on the Yankees’ ability to control the running game.
keysox
Leave up to a bidding war.
Thus low man wins
Edp007
Yes, every candidate brings a sealed bid to the interview. As you say. Low man wins
phillyphilly4133
Phils in 5
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
I’ll settle for Phillies in six, but five would be nice. Gotta split the first two in Houston and then win out in Philly.
MrStomper 2
Ugh
User 2079935927
Phil go down in 5?
Central Valley
How come the Marlins and Rays have difficulty drawing crowds, resulting in small payrolls making it difficult to keep talent?
You’d think Florida, especially with their retiree folks, would be a great location for successful MLB teams?
I live in California, but was just curious.
tim2686
Poor locations and distance from city centers is what I have heard over the years.
boastrogot
how do you explain the A’s then
Central Valley
Crappy stadium, a ballpark location where people don’t feel safe and a team that can’t keep their talent.
rememberthecoop
Miami doesn’t want to pay an experienced manager when they can sign a first-year candidate for less than 1M per year.
Braves Butt-Head
Mlb should relocate the As, Ray’s and Marlins
thickiedon
Las Vegas, Austin, Nashville
Steinbrenner2728
*Oakland, Tampa, Miami
Big Smoke
They should relocate the A’s, Rays, and Marlins to Oakland, Tampa, and Miami, respectively.
boastrogot
Heyman tweets that the Marlins have narrowed the group down to four and expect to make a decision soon.
fre5hwind
“ we started with about 500 managers”
Rick Wilkins
I laughed at your name and your comment.
utah cornelius
Because you’re 13.
Rick Wilkins
Not really. Richard Penis IV is a funny name regardless of your age. Suck it Cornelius.
TheRealMilo
Yeah – suck it Cornelius.
utah cornelius
Like I said. 13, even with your reply.
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Utah, based off what I know of psycholinguistics and patterns, and a few other things, I would surmise that Roy Demeo and TheRealMilo are one in the same…
Richard Penis IV
Shocking accusation
utah cornelius
Trumbo – Yeah, and DeMeo and Milo might just be the penis dude, too. Three mutually supportive, sophomoric attention seekers.
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A lot of people with burner accounts make fatal mistakes when selecting their alter egos. They engrain unintentional similarities in their new name. Same with their speech patterns and comments. Once I get annoyed enough I mute them anyway.
Rick Wilkins
I assure you, it’s just me. Not sure why Corny even had to reply. I was simply stating the guy’s name was funny. Cornball was just being a turd.
utah cornelius
Still a 13 year-old. Must be arrested development.
DarkSide830
scandal in the MLBTR comment section!
kroeg49
It’s just like the Chicago White Sox, waiting for other teams to make their managerial decisions, so we can hire one of the scraps left over.
Rsox
Did Heyman say if a “mystery team” was involved?…
MarlinsFanBase
So, it’s down to the following:
Luis Rojas
Skip Schumaker
Matt Quatraro
Joe Espada
I hope Rojas was just a courtesy call. Dear goodness. We learned by playing against him that he was far from being the right guy. Granted, he was managing an overrated roster, and he may have been overly criticized, but he wasn’t exactly showing competence either.
I think I’m ok with the others…and will see once they actually start managing.
I do know one thing. If Ng doesn’t add a Closer, it won’t matter which of these get the job. They will have a lead going into the 7 to 9th innings, and the bullpen will blow it.
Habeto
Totally agree with you.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
And how exactly do the Marlins get so many late inning leads that spending big bucks for a closer is the elixir destined to save (pun intended!) the day? Their offense might be the most offensive (again, pun intended!) in all of baseball. And now they’re stuck with those Garcia and Soler contracts. Things are pretty bad when M. Rojas is your most consistent hitter, and I don’t mean that as an insult to Rojas. The bar being set so low makes it so.
Habeto
You might not be aware of this, but the Marlins converted 41 of 72 save opportunities this season, making them 6th-worst in SV/SVO ratio. In addition, the Marlins’ relievers are 22nd in ERA and T-21st in holds.
So even though it is not the biggest problem (run production is, obviously), an average bullpen would have helped with 5-7 more wins.
Many things are to be addressed, and after getting two solid bats, a closer is the most flagrant need for this team.
MarlinsFanBase
Exactly. When you see so many games where the Marlins take leads into the late innings, and they still lose, it starts with a Closer issue. The rest of the guys need to go back into lesser roles.
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Richard Penis IV
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