Guardians second baseman Andrés Giménez played through a non-displaced fracture in his left thumb for the past month, Zach Meisel of The Athletic reports. Unlike fellow Guardians infielder Jose Ramirez, who underwent off-season surgery for his thumb injury, Giménez won’t require surgery on his thumb.
The 24-year-old put up easily the best season of his young career, amassing 6.1 fWAR and establishing himself as a star in Cleveland. Giménez posted a .297/.371/.466 slashline with 17 home runs in 2022, as he hit the ball harder than previous seasons, while also cutting his strikeout rate by around 5% to 20.1% and lifting his walk rate to 6.1%. Long viewed as an elite gloveman at either shortstop or second base, Giménez was worth 16 Defensive Runs Saved, 12 Outs Above Average and had a 6.5 UZR. The fact he did this while playing through an injury for a chunk of the season makes it all the more impressive.
Having struggled to a .218/.282/.351 line across 210 plate appearances in 2021 after coming across from the Mets in the Francisco Lindor trade, Giménez’ breakout in 2022 certainly makes Cleveland fans feel better about that trade and gives the team yet another superstar infielder to build around. While his efforts won’t be enough to get past Aaron Judge and Shohei Ohtani for AL MVP honors this year, he’ll certainly receive a number of votes, and the Guardians will be hoping he remains in the conversation for many years to come.
Too bad he rarely hit higher than sixth or seventh in the lineup
I think the fact he had 69 ribbies hitting in those spots in the lineup speaks to one of the ways of how impressive he is.
No. It speaks to the Guardian’s game plan. They don’t have the typical TTO approach of most teams and are much more focused on keeping the chain moving. When you have Kwan, Ramirez, etc getting on it provides ample opportunities to drive men in despite the low lineup spot.
While I agree with your sentiment, yes they do rely on scrappy baseball and making the defense play harder, it still speaks to how good Giménez is. Too often baseball fans search for a reason why the other team screwed up for a guy to have success and try to find out what the other guy did wrong or say someone just got lucky, instead of just marveling at a players talent and just accepting them for what they are: a really good baseball player. It doesn’t matter how many guys get on base for you, you still have to drive them in.
What is
TTO please?
TTO = three true outcomes: i.e., walk, strikeout or home run.
Goat
He doesn’t walk. I don’t believe he can be an 300 ob guy going forward. He’s never done it before.
The only time didn’t have at least .300 OBP was 2021. He did so in 2022 and 2020 in the majors and every single one of his stints in the minors.
In order for him to have a decent(and 300 is not decent) OBP he has to walk more or get hit 25x again. I think he’s taking lessons on getting hit from Ernie Pantusso.
What a great role model to the youth. Unlike the garbage time players nowadays that break a fingernail or hurt themselves riding a motor bike and need to miss the whole season. Bunch of babies need to get back in the game. You’re paid to play a kids game not sit on your bottom.
Not how it works. Some injuries are more serious than others. But have fun ranting from your couch about something you have no understanding of.
Quote: Not how it works.
– Why? Many injuries, can be played through and dealt with. For example, the healthcare system in Canada is a mess because people with actual injuries end up having to wait years on a list just to get it fixed. Strange, that people can still perform activities on a daily basis, despite having to wait years to get it fixed.
BTW, I’m not sitting on my couch. I’m a baseball coach and know when people are able to play and when they need serious help. Most times, it’s not serious and can be played through. My son got hit on the hand and I told him to come out but he wanted to finish the at-bat, in which, he hit a game winning double. Despite having a broken hand, he was able to play through the pain. 4 weeks later, he was back to normal.
Yes, many injuries can be played through. Those are the injuries players generally play through. Many injuries CANNOT be played through. When that happens you rant about lazy players stealing money. You see how absurd you are being?
On what level are you coaching?
I know right? Don’t you hate it when these players won’t play through serious injuries, when playing could risk making these injuries permanent or worse? Idiots
” hurt themselves riding a motor bike and need to miss the whole season” name all the many players who have done this or stop lying.
Cleveland just keeps making excuses. Just credit the Yankees and say they are the better team instead of coming up with fake injuries
Are you serious? Lol 1. He hasn’t been the same player the last month and if you watched Cleveland you would know that. 2. You’re a little stuck on Cleveland right now, I see, is it because your daddy took the yanks out? Dang was it really a 3 game sweep? At least the bird dogs won 2 against the no nothing over hyped Yankees. 100% you don’t keep judge and let me find out you win without him as he put you guys in the post season. No one else was good enough to even help. Maybe my baby boy Rizzo helped a little, so handsome. At least Cleveland does it as a team, so fun to watch. Let the kids play not the 45 year old players on the yanks.
If you watched baseball, you’ll see that the Yanks are very much still alive. Don’t let being dumb stop you.
Not for much longer
Yeah being dumb is cracking a joke about how the Astros own the yanks. Yayyy I love being dumb, at least I’m not as dumb or ignorant as you. Next time raise your arm above your head so you can catch the joke. Also it’s very true… You. Are. Owned. By. The. Astros. Sorry you can’t accept facts. You were also almost owned by some young kids just enjoying playing the game but MLB was like what!!! No!!!
And why would I watch baseball between the stros and Yankees? We all know what’s gonna happen lmao
Lol so let’s see…. You called me dumb and said the Yankees were still alive? Too funny 4-0 baby boy I called it. Your take was dumb af
Your takes are so foul they need a double flush
That doesn’t even make sense.
I credit the Yankees with having a huge payroll and lucky weather
Get Drew Carey or Machine Gun Kelly to throw a couple bucks in to increase Cleveland’s payroll then. Not my problem.
They don’t need a payroll increase. That’s the point. The yanks waste money just to suck I mean how long has it been since they were in a world series? They use to own baseball but now they get owned by the players who fleece them. They are a waiver wire team and it’s sad. Cleveland is home grown baby. We don’t need to spend money as we know how to draft.
Also stop liking your own comments lol
When you say that a team which has made it this deep into the playoffs (and generally does so every year) sucks, and is “waiver wire”, you make yourself seem very ignorant.
I’ve already won this argument so I will not continue to have it . Besides, I’m typing this with one hand as I’m eating a burrito so I’m busy.
You sound so dumb. And again, please stop liking your own comments.
You’re talking about Cleveland right? Cleveland makes it to the playoffs almost every year and loves the waiver wire. They also are deep with home grown talent. A problem the Yankees can’t solve. You seem very ignorant to think otherwise.
I am referring to your saying that the Yankees suck. It is an absurdly unjustifiable comment.
dude think he won a comment.. Don’t bother him. He eating his burrito at his job where he makes them
This is getting surreal
How are they making an excuse? All they did was report that Gimenez had a thumb issue lol. They’re not saying they lost to the Yankees because of it. Injuries get reported after playoff series all the time, this is no exception
“i think the open roof kind of killed us” – boone. “bregman hit it 91mph and judge hit it at 106mph. i don’t know, they got lucky” – severino. “i think even bregman will admit it, he didn’t hit it well off the bat” – higashioka
who’s making excuses exactly??
Those are all scientific facts with mathematical data to back them up.
Slider, just a quick tidbit for you. Geometry is math and is the reason that Bregman’s hit was a homer and Judge’s wasn’t.
Haha. Love seeing this burnt slider put in his place. He is just as bad as MetsFan dude
Man, your takes are smoking hot. Meet the mute
This has nothing to do with the Yankees. Quit putting your team into every conversation. They didn’t lose because of his and Jose injuries. People always puttin their team into the conversation when it’s not needed. Yankees are to busy right now getting bent over by the Astros. Their not wanted in the guardians section.. smh. Everyone here is such a tool. It be nice to find one decent person to have an actual intellectual conversation but it wont be had here cause people like you are alive.
SliderWithCheese3 hours ago
instead of coming up with fake injuries
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So your working hypothesis is that Ramirez got his hand operated on, but that it was a fake injury?
No I am saying we didnt lose because of it. We lost to a better team. We have a very bad offensive team. Yankees scored and we didn’t. Not blaming injuries on the lost. If you healthy enough to play and you get on the field, don’t complain about it.
The Indians robbed the Mets in that trade.
Mets are better with Lindor/McNeil up the middle offensively and defensively combined than Rosario/Gimenez. The trade worked well for both teams, hardly a “steal”.
The Mets only traded for 1 year of Lindor. They could have signed him as a free agent after 2021, likely at a much lower salary than they gave him on the extention
In total, the Mets received 3.6 bWAR from the contracts to Lindor and Carrasco they received
They could have also watched him sign with someone else. Just because they COULD have signed him doesn’t mean they WOULD have signed him. This is not MLB The Show where you get to sign whoever you want as long as you make the offer first. Other teams have just as much of a chance as you in the real world. Lindor also may have ended up getting traded somewhere he liked and could have signed and extension there instead.
Of course they could have always extended Javier Baez if that happened.
There were many more Shortstops available in 2021 free agency than teams willing to meet asking prices. That will continue in 2022 too
The 1st to sign, Seager, was the only to get anything similar to what Lindor had signed for. Correa settled for merely 3 years maximum. Story and Baez took a fraction of the money over deals 4 years shorter. Semien signed for half the commitment over 7 years
They ignored the supply and demand of the market about to begin. The Mets were always gping to have their pick of the lot if they were willing to spend, yet they chose to spend maximum dollars on top of the trade cost to get it done quicker than they needed to do
Horrific business decision
I think you are neglecting the $340 million dollar long term deal. Do you really feel like its that much better when salaries are included?
Not a homer but Guardians won the trade hand over fist. Gimenez and Rosario been just as impactful as Lindor, so yeah it was a lopsided trade. Carrasco has been a little injured and not been as effective as he was in Cleveland either. We still also have two lottery picks in Wolf and Greene that still have a chance of making it. Also Lindor way overpaid contract makes it even worse
I still gotta say it’s looking like an awful trade for the Mets.
It’s a trade that Cohen’s checkbook made possible. All the Mets wanted to do was to get Lindor and extend him. When you’re rich, you can afford to operate that way. Even for a relatively rich team like the RS, that type of trade would be ruinous.
But Cohen can afford to replace prospects with FAs.
No wonder he couldn’t hit.
The Tribe was banged up and they still took the Yankees to 5 games.
The walking wounded Guardians pulled away from the Twins and White Sox as if they were standing still.
That tells you just how abysmal the A.L. Central really is.
Most of MLB was abysmal this year if you want to be real.
You forgot the “and lost” part.
Add that to the
1-5 in the regular season and they never had a chance. Outclassed in every way
Dude you’re really annoying. Like seriously go to your momma since you’re teams with their daddy. Both times your team was terrible but something happened to make them better i.e. Josh and straw. That’s it. They are way better than the Yankees when you look at statistics besides home runs. Contact is fun.
AGAIN- Cleveland went 1-5 against the Yankees this year and then lost to the Yankees in the playoffs, but somehow in your world those facts are just tossed aside and Cleveland is “way better”? I’d say lay off the meds, but maybe you should up them
And yankees are getting outclassed as well by a much better team now.. so we even.
Tossed out? It was addressed but somehow in your little world it wasn’t. ready? You sure? I said “something happened to give the stankees the leg up ie. Josh and straw.
Didn’t he get hit in the hand around that time of the year?
Didn’t he get HBP in the hand late in the season?
Likely his career year.
Almost certainly. I still wish he was a Met though.
you wish, have fun in your moms basement, Gimenez is a beast and was a huge prospect coming up…youd know this if you knew ball….
Why is A’sfaninUK such an insecure jerk?
Fascinating psychological study