The Yankees are planning to keep Aaron Boone in the manager’s chair for 2023. That’s according to owner Hal Steinbrenner, who spoke to Mark Didtler of the Associated Press today. “As far as Boone’s concerned, we just signed him and for all the same reasons I listed a year ago, I believe he is a very good manager,” Steinbrenner said. “I don’t see a change there.”
Boone, 49, first took over as the skipper in the Bronx prior to the 2018 season and the club has qualified for the postseason in each of his campaigns at the helm. As the 2021 season was winding down, he and the Yanks agreed to a three-year extension that covered the 2022-2024 seasons plus a club option for 2025.
Boone has been successful in the regular season thus far, earning three Wild Card berths and AL East division titles in both 2019 and 2022. However, the postseason track record isn’t as strong, with the club failing to reach the World Series in any of those campaigns. On the heels of a four-game ALCS sweep at the hands of the Houston Astros here in 2022, some frustrated Yankee fans might have been hoping for a shakeup. But the disappointing conclusion to the season evidently isn’t going to lead to any rash decisions in the dugout. If the club had any thought of moving on from Boone, they would have to fire him with two years remaining on his deal.
Boone will go into 2023 with a managerial record of 427-281, looking to add another winning season to that total. The offseason will determine what kind of roster he will be in charge of, with the major unanswered question being what happens with impending free agent Aaron Judge.
davidk1979
As a Mets fan I approve of a very poor in game manager like Boone returning.
mlb9229
Ooooof. Sorry Yankee fans. Can’t blame Boone for everything though.
Yankee Clipper
No, you’re right. In fact, nothing from here on out is his fault at all. Why? Because he thinks he’s doing a great job and he keeps getting extended because of his performance. So, everything from here forward is squarely on Hal/Cashman. It’s no secret how Boone operates and his limited capabilities.
Rsox
Yep. Like the Dodgers with Dave Roberts they continue to reward him for following the front office protocols for managing during the regular season while ignoring the failures of the postseason where they actually have to manage games.
Sure that 427-281 regular season record looks great on paper, but the 5-15 playoff record tells the real story
DODGER JR
Spot on post Rsox
judgementday99
this proves Steinbrenner cares very little about improving this team to get it over the Playoff hump / drought since 2009.
poolerh
You can’t blame Boone for the team striking out at the plate 103 times in 9 games, or hitting .173 as a team in the playoffs. Their OPS was a dismal .579. You can’t blame Boone for the apparent ALMVP hitting .139, striking out nearly 40% of his plate appearances. Boone didn’t throw that ball into left field in game 4 that allowed the Astros to score the go-ahead run. The Yankees only had 3 players that hit above .200 for the entire playoffs.
judgementday99
you can blame Cashman for constructing a one dimensional team every year since 2009 and hiring a manager that plays Yahtzee every day with the lineup card and really has no feel for the game unfolding in front of him… Honestly I believe Boone has very little to say about what goes on during the game, and that moves are predetermined on the analytics report for the day.
Dr2022
exactly right Clip. And you know it’s a sad commentary, but I cannot think of very many players on this team that I would like to see return, or that I think, are necessary to return ,for the Yankees to resume their winning ways.
We already discussed the pros and cons of Aaron Judge returning. Who else on this team would we want to see return. I could care less if Cole who collapses when the pressure is on returns, I would be happy if he used his opt out and did not return.
the only guys I would like to see return are bader, Nestor, and maybe a few of the bullpen guys. The rest of the guys could take a hike. Especially since ,as quite sympathetically reported by Andy Martino, the Yankees were so upset, and felt so unfairly booed during the series with the Astros. What did they think, that they were going to be cheered for failing miserably, once again to their archrivals, and being completely non-competitive. Truly pathetic.
He said this may discourage other players from wanting to come here. Lol. Who cares, if they can’t take a few booze for the millions of dollars they get to play a child’s game for a living, they can stay away as far as I’m concerned.
Of course, we know what will actually happen, Cashman will make a couple little tweaks, see the team is a World Series contender, and that will be it. And the same thing that happens every year will occur, will crawl into the postseason, and get eliminated in round one or two, and the Yankees brass will vow to return and be better next year lol.
Yankee Clipper
Yep, right on Doc. I just hope his “tweaks” actually improve the team this time, not simply get them right back to 2022’s standard…..
dugmet
Fans forget at the end of the day good players make managers better because they: perform as expected and minimize the number of times a manager is put in position to make a change. And when a change is made, the decision turns out to be “correct” because the player was successful
geoffb1982
Regular season record is phenomenal. We’ll take him in Oakland
JoeBrady
You adding another $200M to your payroll?
SportsFan0000
Not as difficult to win a lot of games running one of the highest payrolls in MLB for the last 10+ years?!
How many World Series Titles in the last 10 years?!
SportsFan0000
Cashman is forcing him to rely on analytics that takes the skill and manager out of “in game decisions”
If I was a Yankees fan, then I would want to broom the Front Office starting with Cashman and including Boone and bring some new, fresh voices and decisionmaking in there.
Holy Cow!
That’s pretty early for a vote of confidence. Hope his spring training record is good.
Samuel
As a fan of 5 AL teams I approve of Aaron Boone returning.
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Sam, 5 teams eh? Hmmm…Let’s see..Astros,Yanks,Orioles,Spiders, and Devil Rays? Am I close?
Astros Hot Takes
nailed it, I’m pretty sure. Sam & I both like smart baseball
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They obviously all have solid foundations. Always impressed when the smaller payroll teams do damage.
Astros Hot Takes
these last 6 seasons have brought me the greatest baseball joy in all my 60 years – from the owner, through the front office, down to the field, and into the minors, Astros baseball IQ is Mensa
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Altuve is probably tied with Mookie for the 2nd best hitter I have ever seen.
Samuel
TrumboJumbo;
Close.
Not Yankees.
Believe it or not – Angels…..as long as Minasian stays there.
It’s nice to get on board when organizations are winning. It’s far more rewarding when one sees the organization putting in the structures, adding the discipline, and watching the players jell as a team.
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You really mean that????!????? I honestly did not think you were a Halo fan…I have seen you praise Minassian profusely but never connected the dots…I also remember you saying that we should have a positive outlook on the pitchers….I would sure pull for Canning. I remember watching his debut game….Bad breaks
….What do you think about Canning Sam The Man?
mattyvince
Definition of insanity
GarryHarris
There’s a majority of the team of players who had a hand in not showing up 2/3 of the season or during the post season.
SFBay314
Thought it was gonna be mattingly for sure
Joe says...
I hate that Boone is returning but I also haven’t seen anything that makes me want Donnie Baseball as the manager either.
JGCNYYGBP
Did anybody want Joe Torre when he got hired by the Yankees? Clueless Joe. Remember that. I would have thought that hiring Mattingly would have soothed the fans over somewhat.
Joe says...
Good point but the core four (five actually) made Torre look really good and they’re long gone now. Even though things didn’t end well for the Mets, Showalter was the guy they should have gotten when they had the chance.
slider32
Core 4 how does Bernie always get left out and you could make a case that the Yankee pitching is what carried them in those days!
JGCNYYGBP
Absolutely. Love Buck. Even got a Mets Showalter shirt. That 1995 game 5 still haunts me to this day. Love Showalter and Mattingly.
Yankee Clipper
Slider, it’s only because Bernie came up a year earlier, but it’s a stupid reason. He should be included.
Yankee Clipper
JoeSays: What are your thoughts about someone like Posada? I think he may make a good manager if he wanted to do it.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I think him and Girardi are cut from the same cloth and mat be too dry for NYC’s media. Tino would be a better fit. Jorge hasn’t shown that he has any interest in baseball after retirement. At least Tino has helped as a ST instructor iirc.
Joe says...
Clipper I don’t want anymore first time managers. A team with real WS aspirations shouldn’t be a place for on the job training. I’m not sure who I would want out of available candidates.
judgementday99
Torre also had Bob Watson and Gene Micheal building a core foundation and signing real good free agents. Cashman has been riding those decisions for most of his tenure here. Once he got control over those decisions it has been overpaying washed up free agents, bad trades and dumpster diving….. Good enough to get you to the playoffs but being overmatched by teams that know how to construct a playoff roster. Keeping Boone is another one of those bad decisions….you need a field general….not a puppet for the analytics dept.
slider32
Yes, Bernie was the great post season player !
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Boone is not one of the ten best managers but I don’t think he is one of the half dozen worst either. What the Yankees need more is better analysts for expensive acquisitions, a new GM, and to decide if they want to act like a huge market team or a mid-market team.
JoeBrady
Hal has to open up the piggy bank. They’ve had good, but not great, teams.
Ancient Pistol
You can’t keep relying on FAs to save your season. The ownership has to get to the realization that they need a top young core of talent so when these players reach their potential then you attack the FA market.
poolerh
Indeed. One would have thought that by now the Yankees would have stolen, er, tried to copy the models of the Rays, Astros, A’s, and even Mariners. The Astros have one of the highest payrolls but they’ve also got one the highest percentage of home grown players. The other teams have all used the home grown model to build their teams. The Yankees develop their prospects and then trade them for major league talent that may or may not pay off.
judgementday99
they hold them down too long until they have broken their spirit, trade them off for other team’s garbage, or over value them until they have to release them to open up the 40 man.
slider32
It’s not Boone’s fault Chapman, Britton, Green, King, Marinaccio, Effross, Carpenter, Beninteenti,,Hicks, and DJ all were injured. This team was the best in baseball this year before the injuries.
jopeness
#3 payroll in 2022(276m)
#7 payroll in 2023 to 8 players(150m) higher than 8 2022 teams.
JoeBrady
They need more. The NYM will be over $300M by next year. They have the cash flow. It’s a matter of Hal being slightly less rich.
And there is not an unreasonable chance more wins could lead to more revenue.
MLB-1971
Joe – I hope Hal Steinburner keeps burning his money the way he has. The next three or four years should be great with that aging core (and they do not have the Dodgers to bail them out of bad contracts.)
judgementday99
Agreed, the Yankees and Red Sox are really going to start feeling the pinch with the O’s, Blue Jays and Rays Organizations doing a better job at improving the teams for the future…. NY has some great talent in the minors, but tend to let them stagnate and then either trade, or beat them down, either leaving them down too long, or constantly making them ride the shuttle till they lose their enthusiasm. Also we tend to keep the ones that end up being irrellevant too long (Frazier, Anduhar as examples) and block the progress of the the blue chip prospects with High Dollar low performance Free Agents in the MAjors…(IKF, Donaldson).
Poster formerly known as . . .
Just for laughs:
‘In late August, Cashman outlined again why Boone was the right man for the job.
“He’s even-keeled,’’ Cashman said. “It’s important for our players to see that, because if he can keep his temperament the same, for the most part, they don’t see panic.”
usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2022/10/26/aaron-boo…
A different lineup in every game of the ALCS — nope, no panic there.
Obviously, this is a prelude to announcing that Cashman’s holding his job, too. I mean, listen to this:
‘As for Brian Cashman’s situation, “Cash and I had some preliminary conversations’’ Monday in New York about the general manager’s status, said Steinbrenner.’
“Cash” — my good buddy — who knows more about baseball than I do, and the profits are soaring, so — what’s not to love?
Congratulations to the rest of the division and a big shout-out to to the Astros.
Joe says...
Fink I think Boone sucks as much as the next guy but those lineups come from the FO.
Poster formerly known as . . .
The front office specifically claimed otherwise.
Joe says...
I ain’t buying though Fink. The only reason they hired Boone in the first place was to have a puppet out there.
However, considering that, I guess keeping Boone doesn’t really matter.
outinleftfield
Cashman said earlier this year that Boone can override the FO on decisions like lineups, but that he had better be right. That said clearly that Cashman and his staff made those decisions during the season. So you are trying to say that suddenly during the postseason they handed that responsibility to Boone? Something doesn’t seem right about that.
SportsFan0000
Front office and analytics are micromanaging the team.
And, you see the results`
Dr2022
You are correct, Joe. This has been evident for sometime. Steinbrenner knows nothing about baseball, he will listen all the spin that Brian Cashman gives him. I just wonder where he was when his father was in his luxury boxes in every game during his reign. Doesn’t seem like he ever talk to his father about baseball or watch the games himself.
outinleftfield
Hal has been around baseball his entire life. He knows the game. His focus is having personnel that get the team to the playoffs because that makes the team more money. They have done that 6 straight seasons.
qbert1996
Why does having a different lineup in each game of the ALCS signal panic? I fail to see the connection there.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Having three different leadoff hitters and juggling all of the top six bespeaks confusion and indecision. By contrast, Baker kept the same top six for the entire series.
outinleftfield
So you are saying that matchups don’t matter? L v R. Or individual matchups. And you really think those decisions came from Boone? I have oceanfront property in Arizona I would like to sell you.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Sorry to hear that someone sold you oceanfront property in Arizona, but I can’t you help you out there.
outinleftfield
If you don’t think matchups matter or you think that Boone makes those decisions, you either are dumb enough to buy oceanfront property in Arizona or are not paying attention to what Cashman and Boone have been saying for a couple of years. Cashman and the FO make those decisions.
acell10
also didn’t Boone lead the league in manager ejections this year? Doesn’t really speak to being even keeled either….
Poster formerly known as . . .
I don’t mind the ejections. That’s commonplace performance art for the benefit of the players. And I really don’t mind his regular season managing. But when he gets to the playoffs, the stability that the front office prizes seems to decline.
Skell 2
Boone and Cashman should be gone. Judge certainly will be.
Yankee Clipper
So, he said it ALL when he said, “We just signed him”…. It’s a money thing. And winning isn’t as important as keeping the guy they made a poor decision to extend. It’s why they kept Donaldson playing the entire year/postseason, and why he will play next year too. It’s why they kept Sanchez for so long, why Cole starts regardless of performance (although he did really well this postseason, imo), and why they will retain & play Hicks despite Hicks’ negative value to the team.
The fact that Boone made excuses for getting crushed by the Astros & the fact he’s now saying “if DJ & Benny were here, it would’ve been a different outcome” not only shows just how despicably sad he is, but just how out of touch the entire administration is. They actually think if the Yankees two contact hitters were healthy it would’ve made the difference in the ALCS.
They can’t seem to understand that the Astros are just better every single season, and their excuses aren’t convincing the fans.
emac22
I’d argue that it’s just too easy to lie to the fans and that they’d rather do than than spend the money it would take to compete.
They want to build a team for regular season ratings instead because you can do that every year.
I don’t think anyone in management views a failure to make the world series as a failure. They might as well be putting on puppet shows for children.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Fans care about championships. I don’t think the majority of owners do. They’re businessmen, and winning, for them, is turning a profit and building up the value of the franchise so they can make a killing when they sell it. Talk about championships is just obligatory advertising, like fan fests. Gotta fill the circus tent.
JoeBrady
You build value by building a brand.. I’m betting that all 30 owners want to win. The revenue flows aren’t remotely close.
Poster formerly known as . . .
They’d prefer winning to losing. That’s natural. But I don’t think many of them put a championship on a pedestal the way fans do. As long as the customers have enough hope to keep rooting for the team and the franchise is profitable, I think that’s enough for most of them. I don’t think there are many like George, who cried when the Yankees won a World Series. I think the late Mr. Ilich in Detroit was another like George, for whom pride in the team and civic pride went hand in hand. George has been quoted as saying, “When you’re entrusted with a tradition, you’ve got to protect it.” I appreciate that.
judgementday99
Yep Steinbrenner is very happy with the Jerry Jones model of Ownership…
Yankee Clipper
Fink: check out Mariano Rivera’s opinion as reported by SI:
si.com/mlb/yankees/.amp/news/mariano-rivera-thinks…
Poster formerly known as . . .
I just saw that and was about to tell you about it! That’s gotta sting.
judgementday99
Got to love Mo,calls them like he sees them…. unlike Jeter who went the politically correct route as usual…
Poster formerly known as . . .
Mo backpedaled:
seattletimes.com/sports/mlb/rivera-would-keep-boon…
Rick Pernell
@Clipper, I get that Boone is still here because Hal isn’t interested in paying for dead wood. Same can be said for Donaldson because no one is going to trade for that contract. Same can be said for Stanton. Judge is all but 100% gone.
My question is this with improvements in Baltimore, Boston and Seattle do the Yankees even make the 2023 playoffs?
Yankee Clipper
Rick: Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re contending for the last WC spot. The problem with the brass is that they think this year the Yanks were that much better than the competition, and they weren’t. Judge carried this team on his back with a historic season, and as Judge went the Yankees went. If not for Judge, they wouldn’t have even gone 50-50 (which they did) in their last 100 games.
Jays underperformed this season, Rays were injury-riddled. And, as you stated, all three are getting better and continuing to improve. Boston isn’t going to sit in last place and accept it. At the beginning of the season I had the Yankees fighting for third place in their division, and I really believe next season they could very well be fighting just for a playoff spot.
It’s entirely plausible, depending on their East rivals, and Judge regressing even just a little, that the Yankees miss the playoffs.
Dogbone
I don’t care one way or the other about Boone. I’m just glad the Yankees decided to keep Cash. If Cashman didn’t have the ok to spend basically, to any limit he feels necessary – all you Yankee fans here would be hating on him. The guy seems to be one of the absolute worst GMs out there.
Yankee Clipper
Dogbone: I see that most Yankees fans hate Cashman anyway. But your point is valid. I think Cashman is a good GM, and I stress “good,” not great, not number one. He has definitive faults that are exposed when he can’t spend.
The advantage that Cashman had in 2009 is that he was able to outspend his mistakes in roster construction. So, he spent $66MM above any other team to compensate for his lack of player development and trade acquisition.
In fairness, he makes some good moves too. We desperately needed Bader and Bader was excellent. But, we only needed him beside Cashman signed the terrible Aaron Hicks to an unwarranted extension.
judgementday99
lets not forget the HUGE mistake of taking on 50M in salary and an 8 million option on Donaldson to “punish” Gary Sanchez and pick up a mediocre shortstop in IKF, when we could have kept Gio and released Sanchez fir a ton less and signed Correa for a year for practically the same money. and Giving up yet another good promising young arm in JP Sears for another mistake from Oakland in Montas.Then Two words…Joey Gallo (more promising Young talent lost for that blunder). Its also unusal how many arms were burnt out in the bullpen this year and we didnt have any backups because he gave them away in bad trades….
ruff kuntry
Much to the chagrin of Yankee fans.
2012orioles
Would this team have been better off keeping Girardi? I know it didn’t work out for him in Philly, but you’ve got to look at how some of those mid 2010’s teams overperformed. They also lost to the infamous 2017 Astros in the ALCS. I remember being surprised when they let him go, but I don’t follow Yankees baseball 162 games a year.
Poster formerly known as . . .
I liked Joe, but it’s hard to think of him as an option after his poor showing with the Phillies and their pronounced turnaround when they gave the reins to Rob Thomson.
JoeBrady
2012orioles3 hours ago
Would this team have been better off keeping Girardi?
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I thought he was a pretty poor manager. I never understood what folks saw in him. Pretty much ruined Hughes & Joba.
Yankee Clipper
I think Joe Girardi’s strongest assets as a manager were that:
1- He focused on fundamentals, and
2- he would get pissed if players performed poorly and ride them on….fundamentals. He wasn’t putting positive spin on fundamental errors by saying guys were the “best in the league at SS” after the SS made bad plays, for example.
After the disastrous defense that plagued the Yankees, and Boone’s affable responses, many fans cling to Joe’s hard-nosed approach to fundamental play. Also, it seemed that Hoe finally had his team ready to go in ‘17 when he got them to GM 7 of the ACLS. Boone hasn’t been able to achieve that in five seasons since.
Dr2022
Clip Noe hasn’t. In fact, he’s going backwards. But this does not seem to matter to Kashman or Stein Brenner, who continued to give him a vote of confidence. It’s sad, but Steinman realize too much on Cashman, which tells you that Cashman will be back. He doesn’t seem to even watch the games himself. Or understand them. I wondered where he was growing up when his father was watching the games in his luxury box every night. Did he ever attend the game or talk to his father about baseball because it doesn’t seem like it at all.
kreckert
Well, at least Hal’s not *quite* as repugnant a human being as his father was. That’s about all anybody can say for him, though.
Poster formerly known as . . .
And George wasn’t as repugnant as you imagine, although he certainly was a bully and no paragon of virtue. He had another side, a charitable side. The Silver Shield Foundation he started after attending the funeral of a fallen police officer is still doing good. This is their mission statement:
‘For 40 years, The Silver Shield Foundation has been committed to raising funds to provide educational support for the children and surviving spouses of Police Officers, Firefighters and EMS members killed in the line of duty.
‘Today, we remain committed to helping these families cope with such an incredible loss. A large part of that vision is providing tuition assistance for college, graduate school, vocational or technical school, private secondary school, and tutoring services. Whatever the need, the Silver Shield Foundation sets aside an educational fund for each surviving child to take advantage of opportunities that enable them to achieve their educational dream and a brighter future.’
Here’s a story that gives some details about the foundation’s impact:
patch.com/connecticut/greenwich/helping-those-need…
judgementday99
George was also VERY generous to the Tampa community…. he has a High School, Roads and Hospital Clinics / Wings named after him. Ive read stories after he passed how he would pay off medical bills for injured First repsonders and military men and women with no media involvement.
Interim GM
If not for Yankee lore Boone would’ve never been hired. Totally lost in game, makes Dave Roberts look like Dave Johnson.
judgementday99
yes they play up the one home run, but downplay he almost hosed the team when he messed up his legs playing pick up basketball (which voided his contract)…leading us to the AROD years…
fre5hwind
Dang
Mikenmn
I’m uninspired.
Interim GM
You could manage the Bombers too!
Astros Hot Takes
LOL!!!!!
judgementday99
Honestly, the team is run by the analytics Dept and GM. Field Manager Boone has very little to do with the decisions even though they claim otherwise. Anyone with a little baseball knowledge could “be” manager of this team and get them to the postseason…. it takes a Seasoned Field manager to get them over the hump and to the big game… Analytics do not account for the flow of a “living” game, and Boone has proven he cant make the critical decision (if he is actually making them at all).
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Boone must be dating Hal’s daughter.
judgementday99
actually to Boones credit, he is married to a former Playboy playmate LOL
Dr2022
I think Aaron Boone, maybe he’s dating Steinbrenner himself.
DonOsbourne
Off subject, but how do Yankees fans feel about the Bader-Montgomery trade now?
emac22
Love that they finally decided to get a real center fielder but price and timing are questionable.
Hate that they traded a lefty starter to get a CF.
Hate that they keep getting pitchers from places like Oakland and thinking it translates to Yankee stadium.
Hate that they traded a good lefty starter for under 200 games prior to free agency after consistently refusing to pay free agent dollars for top players.
JoeBrady
Hate that they keep getting pitchers from places like Oakland
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I’m not bashing Cashman, since he has his moments, but Montas has a career ERA of 4.51 outside of Oakland.
Yankee Clipper
Don, I think most felt the way I do in that Bader was a very desirable CFer. I’ve always enjoyed watching him. His performance has been exceptional in NY and he’s got the energy we love. He’s quickly becoming a fan favorite.
The timing was the biggest bone of contention for me because the Yankees SPs were hurt and we didn’t have depth. Additionally, we were still in a dogfight for first at that time.
But, it worked out, and this illustrates Cashman’s capability with trades. Now that the season’s over we are all going to love this trade going forward. It was necessary for this team. He’s a great fit, man. Everything you all said about him was so accurate.
DonOsbourne
I’m glad to hear it. We love Monty too. I enjoyed watching Bader in the playoffs. I wish it had went differently for you guys. But the Astros are TOUGH. They’re just a step ahead right now. Everyone can make all the trash can jokes they want, but that team just executes. Have a great offseason Clip.
Mystery Team
Their starting pitching is ridiculous. Javier is an ace on many teams but on the Astros he was the guy who got bullpenned when Verlander came back. Granted he was back in the rotation soon enough but still.
judgementday99
I had more issues with the Montas trade than the Bader trade. I think Sears had more promise than Monty, and Catfish Hunter is probably the last Oakland starter that came to the Yankees that had any success…
slider32
This was a good trade for both teams, Bader played great in the playoffs!
slider32
Yanks were the best team in baseball until injuries set in at the deadline. Cashman upgraded the team, and more injuries.! I say, sign Judge, Rizzo, Rondon, and Jansen and this team is a top contender next year.
Samuel
slider32;
I always write the same thing……
“Older players get injured more often and take longer to heal.”
“MLB is a Young Man’s Game.”
Every year Yankees fans on here talk about their injuries holding them back. Well….when are they going to do something about it?
P.S. It’s not real difficult to overpay veterans in free agency or take them in trade.
Consistently finding players that are young and have upside, then turning them over to a coaching staff that can make them better is what the good organizations do.
Pitching Coach Matt Blake has saved the Yankees. Other than Judge and his epic season, I looked that their position players and they looked like a radically overpaid 4th place team.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Slider I don’t think they were the best team, just the healthiest playing up to their potential. And then the bug bit. I also don’t think they need to pursue an expensive 35 y.o. closer in Jansen. Holmes is their guy. What I want is a bench upgrade. Locastro and Marwin were warm bodies. Hicks slides in that role now since he’s not going anywhere. Rizzo should be opting-out for a multi-year deal. Not sure if he’s worth the backend years.
emac22
Why change managers if you aren’t planning to change anything else?
CBS is happy with attendance numbers and a solid winning record during the regular season. A happy owner isn’t looking for change.
New York has turned into a town where leagues put bad teams to help all of the small markets and the owners are buying in.
Poster formerly known as . . .
CBS hasn’t owned the Yankees for a long time, emac.
emac22
I was calling Hal CBS because he’s just another 3 letter word.
I haven’t been sleeping that long.
Yankee Clipper
Your last paragraph seems so true, Emac. When did winning become the cherry on top for the large markets, instead of the main goal? It’s so unenjoyable.
dirkg
I honestly think we’re seeing that the Front Office can manage a 162 game season – and now most do – but in the playoffs, the manager needs to take the reigns. Decisions made by an analytics department with thousands of data points work for an extended period; but over a 3, 5, or 7 game series, it’s a whole different ballgame.
YankeesBleacherCreature
It’s millions of data points since they also run simulations. I’ve been checking out FG’s MLB Help Wanted section. Teams are hiring analysts and expanding by a half dozen a time. Things aren’t going back to managers having full in-game autonomy unfortunately.
jdgoat
You know this is a terrible idea when Yankee fans hate it and everybody else loves the fact he’s returning.
solaris602
Translation: We’re not gonna fire Boonie yet. Check back with us a year from now.
Yankee Clipper
I don’t think it will be reevaluated for three seasons (when his contract is up). Cashman is going to return and will likely get a multi-year deal. If he does, Boone is staying put for the duration.
Poster formerly known as . . .
“But the disappointing conclusion to the season evidently isn’t going to lead to any rash decisions in the dugout.”
With all due respect, Darragh, parting ways with a manager with his postseason record would hardly constitute a rash decision.
utah cornelius
Fans should wear jerseys with the number 5-15 on the back.
steveb-2
It’ll be the return of Boone the Caretaker in 2023. He’s not a choice that inspires any Yankees fan. He follows orders and doesn’t cost too much, the two most important criteria for Hal. It’s far more important to get a new GM, but you know that won’t happen. So it’ll be same old thing in 2023– beat up on lesser teams & get lots of fannies in the stands spending their money, do well enough to keep the YES ratings up for advertising dollars. And then fail in the postseason. Cashman has told us as much–” the postseason is one big crap shoot.” That’s his words. Truth is, when you’re satisfied with having 7 ballplayers in your lineup just swinging from their heels on every strike no matter what the situation is, you clearly don’t care about the postseason.
Ronk325
I’m so glad the Yankees are choosing to run it back with the tandem of Boone and Cashman. I can’t wait to get my hopes up all through next summer just to lose to the Astros in the ALCS again
all in the suit that you wear
I’m wondering if Judge might sign elsewhere because he wants to go to a World Series, but the Astros should be good for a while.
Yankee Clipper
Suit: Great point. Andy Martino’s terrible article about fans booing and hurting his feelings, thereby forcing him to leave, is nothing short of a joke. If Judge leaves it will be because:
1) Giants outbid the Yanks (likely to happen), and
2) Giants are his childhood favorite team with Bonds his favorite player.
My opinion, as Fink often stated throughout the season, is that Judge is more likely to go to SF than to stay because of both. Now, he (or others) may say it’s because of booing, but that’s just insulting our intelligence. Yankees fans, Phillies fans, Mets fans, and more, boo when players don’t perform how they should. But, they blow the roof off when the players do perform, and the players know it’s genuine.
The only fans that are as loyal/passionate as the cities I mentioned and don’t boo the players is probably ST Louis. Winning culture, excellent fanbase, and always cheering. But, that’s not NY or Philly.
YankeesBleacherCreature
@Clip What a lot of fans don’t see on TV are Bleacher Creature roll calls before the first pitch every home game. (Nick Swisher had one of the best responses with a pointed salute.) They may boo him in-game but they’re also cheering him on the next day again with the whole stadium erupting. It’s “tough love” when guys aren’t performing. Even Jeter has been there and he embraced it. I wouldn’t change a thing.
Yankee Clipper
100% correct YBC. That’s exactly it! Fans spend all that money, time, energy to go to cheer them! They want to cheer these guys. The booing stems from the frustration of these guys failing to hold up their end.
But, the fans are incredibly forgiving. As soon as the player contributes, we go absolutely crazy, especially in the postseason.
Plus, NYers aren’t just Yankees fans. They’re fans of multiple teams. Just like many people (millions) are Yankees fans from everywhere else. This isn’t just a NY thing. We just happen to be among tje most expecting, the most passionate, and the most expressive of the fanbases.
Bottom line: we want to win, and if you ain’t cutting it, we are going to let you know. I don’t boo them, personally. I think it can be counterproductive; but I don’t have a problem when fans do.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Remember when Jack McDowell gave the fans his middle finger after a poor outing following booing? He just didn’t get it. These are the same fans that will give you the middle finger back with smiles on their faces with a standing ovation if you do well the next. Gleyber could go 0-for-4 with four Ks in one but if he hits a go-ahead homerun the next game, you damn sure they’re going to relentlessly demand a curtain call.
all in the suit that you wear
Clipper: I was listening to WFAN yesterday and they were also saying Martino’s article was a joke. I think booing largely doesn’t affect players. I wonder if someone could estimate how much revenue Judge is worth to the Yankees each year. If this is way more than Judge’s asking price, and Hal’s top priority is profit, then Hal should outbid everyone except maybe the Dodgers.
Yankee Clipper
Yes, that’s a great point, Suit. I’m sure they have some internal mechanisms for how much a player yields in merchandising profits. After this year, I’m sure it’s a lot of money.
Also, I think your point above is accurate and forgot to add in the third reason Judge could leave: He wants to win and understands that this Yankees team can’t do it. So, he’s rather go somewhere where they are bringing in new blood to win.
Dr2022
Quite true clip. But I will just add this about Aaron Judge, Yankees might’ve had a better shot at winning if he had contributed anything in the Astro series. His performance was awful. And he usually doesn’t do much against the Astros, which is another reason why we lose to them. He might take a good look at himself in the mirror . He may have had a great regular season, which is fantastic, but many feel that the postseason is more important and their his performance has not been up to snuff often times. Just a couple more key hits during the series we might’ve had a better shot at winning.
Sunday Lasagna
Players play the game. Players win games. Players fail to win games. The cast of Yankees players since 2009 have failed to win games at the right time. That’s it. Plain and simple. Those Yankee teams 1996-2000, everyone was afraid of, 9th inning down, they were coming back, those teams had special groups of players that won championships. Joe Torre did not win those games, and Aaron Boone is not failing to win games. It’s on the cast of players. Gene Michael & Bob Watson built championship teams, Brian Cashman has built teams with winning records.
Samuel
WampumWalloper;
Yes it’s the players…..
But FO’s put together the rosters, coaches work with the players daily, and mangers run the game….among other things.
If you haven’t seen the Yankees play the Rays and watched Kevin Cash manage against Aaron Boone…….
BTW, I read a part of your take on how the Rays set up a team. Your post was in response to a guy I muted. From what I read before the post disappeared you’re the only poster here that understands what they do. That was an epic post!
SliderWithCheese
He’ll be fired mid-season which is a bigger stain.
LordD99
Sigh.
mostlytoasty
It’s pretty pathetic honestly that Boone and Cashman will keep their jobs. Boone may not be able to control his players being unable to hit in the postseason, but his constant lineup tweaks, bullpen management, pinch-hitting management, and inability to give Cabrera, Peraza, and even Volpe a shot at the left side of the INF sooner are just inexcusable. The past few years seem to have more AA to MLB jumps than ever before. Sure, you don’t want to rush a player, but if you know IKF isn’t the bat or glove you want at SS, why are you waiting until basically the playoffs to try something new?
And with Cashman, the Donaldson trade is inexcusable. Surely IKF could have been brought in cheaply by himself. You’re now saddled with several old vets that are past their primes and on exorbitant (relative to value) deals. Imagine half the other GMs in this league getting the Yanks’ payroll from 2009 onwards. I’m sure most of those GMs would at least be able to get to the WS once, which is more than can be said of Cashman. The reason the 2021-22 offseason moves look even worse in hindsight is that they were dealing with so much bloated/dead money on the roster… all of which is a product of Cashman and Levine’s doing.
I guess Cashman isn’t a certainty to be brought back yet, but it’s pretty clear Hal isn’t too upset by the product that’s been on the field the last 10+ years. And who can blame him I guess? The Yanks will rake in revenues no matter how “good but never great” their roster is.
BSHH
There are so many unfair comments about Boone here! If the Astrodome roof had been shut, his team surely would play against the Phillies now…
Gruß,
BSHH
Sunday Lasagna
@BSHH it was the Yankees that asked the commissioners office to force the Astros to keep the roof open because they were concerned about the noise from the Astros fans in a closed stadium. The Yankees are literally the reason why the Aaron Judge fly was knocked down by the wind and did not leave the park.
vaderzim
If the Yankees want to continue getting bounced from the postseason in embarrassing fashion, then this is a good move for them.
Monkey’s Uncle
This news should be well received….
CravenMoorehead
Lol.
Girardi gets let go after taking an “electronically enhanced” 2017 Astros team to 7 games and gets let go.
Boone makes asinine managerial decisions in the playoffs for the last 5 years and gets a free pass. Makes sense.
Obviously the players are a big part of the problem…which begs the question…what idiot put those teams together? Oh yeah, Brian Cashman. Another individual who should have been let go as well.
Hal Steinbrenner is a cuck.
Yanks2
Girardi wasn’t a puppet. Boone is a puppet. Puppets are easier to control which is likely why Hal prefers Boone over Girardi
Yanks2
Basically what he means by saying “I think he is a very good manager” is that Hal is content with being first round exits in the playoffs every season despite having one of the best records in baseball year after year.
Mediocre players like Donaldson, IKF, Trivino, Hicks, and to an extent Torres continue get playing time and Cashman isn’t inept enough to non-tender, eat the salary, or just flat out trade players to at least get something in return even if it isn’t much. Nothing will change next season now that this mediocre media manager is back with his nasally voice lol
Dr2022
No, nothing will change. But at least we’ll be able to get to watch him stick his fingers in his nose and his ears and everywhere else during press conferences again. As he struggles, but yet fails to come up with an intelligible reason for theabsurd moves that he makes.
Sunday Lasagna
Yankees won the AL attendance crown in 16 of the past 20 years, they will draw over 3M in attendance in 2023 if they win or not. Yankees 5.7B broadcast deal is 2nd only to the Dodgers. Seems like they get the spoils of being a Championship team without winning Championships…..Boone and Cashman get to come back…..
User 3595123227
I bet if the Yankees put naked women in the locker room after every game they would win 145 games next year no matter who the manager is.
sox4ever
Another early exit for the yanks in 2023 confirmed
CravenMoorehead
Meanwhile in 3 years the Red Sox will probably rebuild and win another title while Steinbrenner swims in his money like Scrooge McDuck.
Samuel
The 2 small market teams – Orioles and Rays – will run that division for the next 2-5 years.
It’s not the money you spend- it’s how you spend it.
Those organizations are smart from the FO to the manager to the coaching staffs to the players on the field.
Yankees and Red Sox are drunk on entitlement, and Shapiro always runs his teams up to the door, spends money and younger players in trade trying to knock it down, winds up at max payroll, then and has to onload some good younger players in a package to get another team to take the guys he’s overpaying.
In MLB teams have to develop their own. The Rays and Orioles are doing that.
Dr2022
There is no doubt about that, Yankees act like a small market team now. Steinbrenner invests in European soccer leagues and other interests while he owns the Yankees, from the profits.
whyhayzee
Dr. Boonedoggle retains his medical license.
JoeBrady
First time I heard ‘boonedoggle’
ArianaGrandSlam
Last Aaron standing unless they get new Aaron.
Dr2022
They’ll be two last aarons standing, Aaron Hicks, and Aaron Boone. The two we wanted to leave will be here, the one that we want to remain will be gone.
TJT88
Lifelong Mets fan here. Even I’m sick of watching the suffering over here. Once upon a time in my youth I enjoyed it. Now I’m my 30s, not so much. I’m truly convinced ownership wants to see how long they can continue to be awful whilst having a mega fan base that will continue to spend money at the stadium and on merchandise etc. I really think that ownership group does not prioritize winning, but rather just a profit. I truly feel awful for all my fellow New Yorkers who are Yankee fans. I feel the pain. All i have to say is……
UNCLE!!!!!!
User 3595123227
Correct.
MLB-1971
TJT88 – Pirate fans would say Yankees fans are whiny, entitled snobs. Compared to the Pirates, the Yankee fans have NOTHING to complain about…… spoiled brats….
Yankee Clipper
Ignore JC, he’s Samuel’s alter-ego…..
whyhayzee
The biggest problem for the Yankees right now are the “fans” who fill Yankee Stadium. They make the place a cesspool. The players hate it, the front office hates it, it’s just an untenable situation. It’s got to change or the team will never win. No one is going to win for a bunch of jerks in the seats. Time to take the stadium away from the riff raff (probably all Trumpers) and get the real baseball fans back in those seats. Or at least enough of a majority so they can start getting the boneheads sent home to stay. Flush the toilet.
“More than one Yankee player has told his agent this week that playing at the Stadium last weekend was an usually brutal experience. It was hard for many teammates to believe that fans booed Judge.”
utah cornelius
Red Sox fans boo their own stars, too. Both fan bases are harsh critics of poor performance. No matter who you are. Stop pretending this is strictly a Yankee tendency. Grow some honesty.
As for me, I’m no fan of all the booing, Red Sox or Yankee, and I certainly wouldn’t boo Judge. I don’t get the mindset that thinks you can boo your own player (kick them when they’re down) and expect them to turn around and do better. Doesn’t often work that way.
whyhayzee
Ask Joe Torre about Red Sox fans.
And you’re missing my point.
whyhayzee
“Yankee fans will be heartbroken at the prospect of losing the man who broke Maris’ record, while others say that the fact that he was booed by his own supporters during the ALDS is unforgivable.”
In Mookie Betts last season he was their third best hitter and barely ahead of Devers or he would have been their fourth best hitter. Was he booed? Now you can tell me that Red Sox fans are notorious jerks and contributed to Betts leaving and I won’t disagree BUT he left as much for the money as anything.
Also, how did the Yankee fans greet Cano when he returned to Yankee Stadium? Crapped all over him. And now that it comes out that he’s a cheater, it’s surely got nothing to do with the Yankees. Of course not. OK.
judgementday99
Ever been to a Phillies or Eagles game??? You want to see some brutal fans.
I watched people spit and throw beer at a 6 year old kid wearing a Giants jersey.
Rsox
Boone’s coming back after terribly managing the team both in the regular season from game 61 til the end of the season and again in the playoffs. Players are complaining about the way the fans were treating them at home as they lost both games at Yankees Stadium and an owner named Steinbrenner apparently satisfied with nothing more than making the playoffs (if that even really matters to him).
It’s safe to say these are not our father’s Yankees
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
But 2003
yanks_aaronx3
Can’t change it now. Boone needs a bench coach that knows how to manage. He needs an experienced ex manager in his ear to use the intangibles to win a ball game, it’s proven you can’t win on the analytics alone
judgementday99
Yep Torre had Zimmer…. Boone will need someone with some common sense.
Dr2022
I agree with you. But you should tell that to Cashman/ and Steinbrenner. by this standards, Boone is doing a fine job. They don’t need for him to get to the World Series. Only make money. And besides, why would they want to spend the extra money to have a bench coach .Steinbrenner is a Penny pincher in a lot of instances. He won’t spend a dime when he thinks he has to.
YankeesOwnYou
I seem to be in the minority, but for the most part, I think Cash has done a superb job. All of the recent post-season shortcomings seem to make people forget that a lot of the moves he’s made have worked out tremendously in the Yankees favor. You can’t judge a cake by recipe alone…you gotta bake it and taste it first.
People wanted Cash’s head the first few weeks of the Bader trade. Montgomery was dealing like an ace and Bader was rehabbing. Then Monty came back down to earth and resembled the 4/5 starter type that he is, and Bader hit big playoff homerun after big playoff homerun.
Cashman is an excellent GM. Boone is a capable skipper…and the narrative around DJ and Benny changing the formula is more than fair.
Yankee Clipper
Yes, Cashman has his strengths, so you’re not wrong. But, this is the third longest period in Yankees history without a WS title, and I believe the longest period in their history without a WS appearance. And, it’s largely due to their offensive impotence in the postseason, which is due to how Cashman designs their roster. That’s why so many want him gone.
Dr2022
That is correct clip. And my beef is not that they have won the World Series or not, because that truly is a crapshoot to some degree, but that they have not gotten their in over a decade. And yet, despite this, the cash man does not change his formula expecting a different result even if the current so-called process has not worked.
Dr2022
Correct, clip,and anyone who thinks Cashman is an excellent GM, has not been paying attention. Or doesn’t understand the game. of course few have said he hasn’t made some good moves, the problem is with the budget. He has available to him every year enough money to have a good team. Any GM could have a successful team if they had 250 million or more to spend every year.
The problem is, as those who are paying attention know, the Yankees don’t make moves that are good enough to get them anywhere near the World Series in a long time. And this is despite them saying every year that they have a championship caliber roster and that is their goal. Evaluating cashman by those standards, he has not been successful. Of course they’re being disingenuous, and that is not really their goal, so by Steinbrenner standards, cashman is very successful. He makes a lot of money and gets them to the postseason which helps their revenue, but he doesn’t have to spend any more money than he has done,in order to get to the World Series .
Yankee Clipper
Doc, I’m afraid the only viable solution is to hit the Yankees in the purse. It’s tough because so many of us [want] to support our team. We want to pay for and support the players. We want to buy the merch and be proud to claim the pinstripes as our own.
But Hal knows very well the inspiration his father’s attitude toward winning engendered amongst the fanbase. He knows the mantra of winning first and foremost touches on the pride of the fans. So, he uses it. He uses us. Until we make it not as profitable for him, he will keep us right where he wants us, with the hope that we will be content with “competing” every year, instead of winning. With the hope that $260MM for payroll garners appreciation until they can implement a firm cap.
He’s just waiting until the fanbase gets used to being a playoff team. I’ve seen several fans post about being content with this, buying the “playoffs are a crapshoot” narrative. It’s sickening to me, but the winningest franchise in all sports no longer has winning as a priority.
yanks_aaronx3
Looks like Shallow Hal has made his decision
Fortunately, us Yankees fans can make ours as well
Let’s make a pact and NOT support the team next year. No games to watch in tv, no going to the games, no purchasing any yankee related memorabilia.
Hal will see that it’s not HIS team, but it’s OUR team
Buuba ho tep
Boone Is a Derek Shelton clone. Neither of them couldn’t even manage the Bad News Bears
User 3663041837
RIP Yankees 2023 season
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Honestly, I never understood why they hired this guy. I think it has something to do with a 2003 walk off homerun, because that’s all he is known for. If it wasn’t for this, Boone wouldn’t be managing the Yankees.
The problem with the Yankees is they always try to make big moves, even if they are unnecessary. They traded for Donaldson because he was a well known third basemen, though he’s beyond his prime. They did the same with Ichiro, Holliday, pretty much all the “aging” superstars they sign are just there to make a splash but I wouldn’t they say they have immensely helped the team win.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Professional integrity stands for something. It’s how the ARod trade came about. Boone also adopted two kids along with having two bio kids. He also does a ton for charity. You can debate his managerial skills but the dude is solid stand-up people. Those may also be reasons why he was hired along with coming from a respected baseball family.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I could be way wrong, it just seems Yankees always go for the big splash or nostalgia.
Baseball dude
Thanks for the humor YankeeBleacherCreature. Professional integrity and A-ROD being mentioned in the same sentence is hilarious!!!
Dr2022
I agree with your point in part, but they don’t do these moves to make a splash, they do them because they’re cheap. They certainly would have made these moves when these guys were in their prime, if they wanted to make a splash.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Ellsbury, Damon, Ichiro, Holliday… they were all in their prime?
Dr2022
No, none of them were, except maybe Damon, who had something left. But that’s the point, that they were not in their prime, so they were cheap.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Damon was not cheap. Sox couldn’t pay him more than the Yankees and we couldn’t pay more for Ellsbury. Then there’s Randy Johnson, CC Sabathia, etc. Heck, they tried to get Cliff Lee for a ton of money but he didn’t want the Yankees. Yankees spend to buy the best and make a splash. Some of the deals were cheaper, some were not. Didn’t matter, they invested in players who had career successes.
They took on Giancarlo Stanton too after one big season and that was not cheap. Trade, yes, but same idea.
heavenblu4u
I am not a big fan of the Yankees and Boone has made questionable decisions but for the love of the game this Yankees line up produced nothing, they looked like they didn’t know how to swing a bat.
JoeBrady
this Yankees line up produced nothing,
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Well. they did finish 2nd out of 30 teams in scoring.
pino
Good now fire Cashman
Then his replacement can fire Bafoon
miami wins b4 the mets do
Of course Hal won’t change managers. He’s got a team built by Cashman that is tailor made to make it to the playoffs every year with a manager that will get them there in Boone. However much he screws up, which is a lot.
However the team is not made for the playoffs. At least not winning in the playoffs. Not against the superior teams anyway. The mariners, the Astros and probably the blue jays all would have taken the Yankees down. They got lucky to play the guardian Indians. The one true team they had a chance to beat and it took them all series to do so. It’s time for a house cleaning but Hal is to cheap to do that. Even in Cashmans contract year. See Cashman next year along with Boone. See Judge elsewhere, and the Yankees will say we tried.
Dr2022
Sad commentary, but true
outinleftfield
Yankee fans committing hari kari yet?
Yankee Clipper
Haha! Not if all us, man, but it sure seems like that’s Hal’s goal for sure. Hari kari- lolol.
Baseball dude
Interesting decision for the Yankees brass. They were fortunate to have built up a safe lead during the regular season. Their lackluster AL championship series was telling. The Mariners played the Astros much tougher, and would have easily beat the Yankees in a best of 7. You could make a case for the Blue Jays to have done the same.
Cosmo2
Newsflash: fans hate their manager, blame him for everything. Know that their moves would have worked. Extremely naive story at eleven.
Yankee Clipper
Cosmo: this is true to a degree, but it’s the deeper dissection that yields the true story of both Cashman & Boone. As an example, I will simply ask this: Do you think Buck Showalter is a better manager than Boone?
If that answer is, “yes,” than I believe you’d agree with most of us. Cashman’s criticism is steeped in the fact that he makes poor decisions when he has much better ones clearly available. I’d also argue that there are better people at constructing WS rosters than Cashman available. Cashman is good, not great. He’s found an analytical formula for regular season success, not postseason. Boone just isn’t good enough to overcome Cashman’s poor roster choices, ie: Donaldson, IKF, Marwin, Hicks, etc.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Did you see when Buck complained about the sheen on Musgrove’s ears and had the umps check his ears for foreign substances? Probably gamesmanship to throw Musgrove off his game. It didn’t work, but was it worth a shot while Joe was mowing down Buck’s Mets? Heck, yeah.
In another of the playoff games, a pitcher was made to tuck his medallion out of sight under his jersey. I wish I could remember which game and which teams were involved, but I’m drawing a blank. But I thought of Buck’s gamesmanship when Astros pitcher Luis Garcia was on the mound with his hair extensions laden with shiny silver or glass beads twinkling away as his braids flailed around his neck when he delivered the ball. I was thinking: “Buck might’ve complained about that distraction.”
In fact, those glittery doodads ARE illegal. Hell, I remember when Mets pitcher R.A. Dickey was made to remove innocuous cloth friendship bracelets his daughters made for him. And years before that, reliever Arthur Rhodes went ballistic when a batter (I think it was Omar Vizquel) complained that his diamond stud earrings were distracting, and the umps made him take them off.
But did it occur to Boone to complain about Astros pitchers with shiny jewelry in their hair extensions? Nope. Gamesmanship? What’s that?
Cosmo2
I’m not saying complaints about Boone aren’t legit. I’m just pointing out that fans always hate the manager and rarely is there anything to it but nonsense. They’re all good managers or they wouldn’t have jobs. Sometimes they lose a clubhouse but fans complaining about in game decisions is usually an exercise in hot wind blowing.
Yankee Clipper
Cosmo: I agree with you 100% there. In fact, I’ve said before, Boone may be a good manager. Cashman is a good GM. I just don’t see any way for that duo to bring a Cashman-built roster to a championship. Something has to change in at least one of three areas:
1) Hal’s budget,
2) Cashman, or
3) Boone
Money has to overcome the depth problem and lack of production; or Cashman’s roster needs to be retooled by a GM with a different approach; or an experienced manager that is more capable than Boone has to try to win within Hal’s budget and Brian’s roster construct.
Dr2022
I guess you don’t follow under anything about the team. You’re just making an overly simplified statement. Everything is not the managers fault. Of course, the general manager has a lot to answer for as well, as well as the players. But for those of us watch every single game, we see the blunders that the manager makes, the bullpen use that makes absolutely no sense, and what are obviously the wrong moves that lead to losses. It’s a combination of factors, but the roster is generally good enough to get to the postseason, but not good enough to overcome the blunders at the manager makes in the postseason. We see this every single year. Talk to any knowledgeable Yankee fan and you’ll hear the same thing. You obviously have only a superficial knowledge of the team. Which is fine since you’re a Mets fan, and you could say the same thing about me in regard to the Mets.
Cosmo2
You THINK those moves make no sense but your hyperbole gives you away. You have an opinion. An unprofessional opinion. But go ahead, apply for a managerial job. Let the front office know how much smarter you are than their present, apparently incompetent manager. See how that works for you. Criticism is one thing but you’re basically saying it’s obvious fact that you know more about these things than Boone and the Yankees.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
My god, where’s the accountability? Well if Hal is not going to get rid of Cash/Boone then they better DFA/release/put on waivers these players who failed to perform. Because the Yankee fanbase is livid and something needs to change.
judgementday99
If Donaldson, IKF, Hicks are in Yankee Uniforms next season…then there is no hope.. I would hope Ben Rortvedt gets a real shot to surplant Higashioka, because Higgy just cant get over the bump from being a AAAA offensive player. and something needs to happen with the NYY approach to hitting, they need someone to instruct them on how to adjust to a pitcher you cant hit a HR off of.
Poster formerly known as . . .
judgementday99, I’m afraid there’s little hope that Donaldson will be gone, because this front office doesn’t like eating salary. I don’t mind keeping IKF as a replacement player off the bench. He’s a lot better than Tyler Wade. I sure hope they manage to find a trade partner for Hicks, but I’m doubtful because of that foolish contract Cashman gave him.
I’m not even sure that the front office wants the hitting coach to tell them how to hit anything besides home runs. That’s what the stadium was designed for,
Dr2022
Yes, he is pretty bad. Almost anyone will be an improvement.
Cosmo2
Frikkin NY fans. Team does better than 90% of the sport but heads gotta roll. Gimme a break.
jackjohnson52183
How Much Of A Chance Is There,That Hal Steinbrenner & Brian Cashman Will Change Their Minds,About Who Will Manage The 2023 New York Yankees?
How Would It Help,If IKF Moves To 3rd Base,For 2023,While Anthony Volpe Becomes The New Shortstop & Challenges For American League Rookie Of The Year Honors?
Poster formerly known as . . .
I think the plan is to play DJ at third base. They still owe him $60 million. Unless they trade Torres in the offseason, that would be the logical spot for DJ. He was surprisingly good at third base, even though his hitting was disappointing.
I think IKF might be a useful utility player off the bench, not a starter next year.
jackjohnson52183
How Well Would Things Work For The 2023 New York Yankees,If They Look Something Like This?:
Batting Lineup (When Everyone Is Healthy)
1. CF Bryan Reynolds
2. RF Aaron Judge
3. 1B Anthony Rizzo
4. DH Giancarlo Stanton
5. LF Andrew Benintendi
6. 2B Gleyber Torres
7. 3B Isiah Kiner-Falefa
8. SS Anthony Volpe
9. C Sean Murphy
Bench (When Everyone Is Healthy)
Jose Trevino
D.J. LeMahieu
Oswaldo Cabrera
Harrison Bader
Starting Rotation (When Everyone Is Healthy)
1. Gerrit Cole
2. Frankie Montas
3. Sean Manaea
4. Luis Severino
5. Nestor Cortes
Bullpen (When Everyone Is Healthy)
Michael King
Lucas Luetge
Ron Marinaccio
Jonathan Loaisiga
Wandy Peralta
Clay Holmes
Lou Trivino
Aroldis Chapman
Trey Sweeney,Estevan Florial,Kyle Higashioka,Brendan Beck,Brandon Lockridge & Yoendrys Gomez Are Traded To The Oakland Athletics For Sean Murphy.
Aaron Hicks,Domingo German,Alexander Vargas,Trystan Vrieling,Drew Thorpe & Josh Breax Are Traded To The Pittsburgh Pirates For Bryan Reynolds.
Sean Manaea Signs With Them,While Luis Severino Has His Option Picked Up By Them,Plus,Aaron Judge,Andrew Benintendi & Aroldis Chapman All Sign New Contracts With Them.
The Only Reason Why I Have Aroldis Chapman Being A Yankee,In 2023,Is Because Scott Effross,Who Was Brilliant Out Of The Bullpen,After Being Acquired,From The Chicago Cubs,Is Undergoing Tommy John Surgery & Obviously,Won’t Pitch Again,Until 2024,Since It Usually Takes Pitchers,At Least,A Year,To Completely Recover From The Operation,Yet,It Will Have To Be A 1 Year Deal, For “The Cuban Missile”,
How Much Would It Help,If Hal Steinbrenner & Brian Cashman,Also,Suddenly,Change Their Minds About Who Will Manage The 2023 New York Yankees,With Their Decisions Now Being To Fire Aaron Boone & They Hire Mike Scioscia To Manage The 2023 New York Yankees,With Paul O’Neill Being Hired To Be His Bench Coach?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
HARRISON Bader is a first rate Center-fielder and he will be starting. If they pick up Reynolds, he would play left. Sean Manaea is likely cooked, and if not, he is no longer a third starter. The bullpen will need to add a couple power arms. Not Aroldis. Good stuff though, seems like you put some thought into it.
jackjohnson52183
What Do You Mean?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I was just giving my assessment of your trade proposals, that’s all.
jackjohnson52183
What About The Idea Of Mike Scioscia Becoming The New Manager & Paul O’Neill Becoming The New Bench Coach?
Poster formerly known as . . .
Paul has been very consistent in saying that he has no interest in a coaching position with the Yankees. It’s too bad, because he’d probably make an excellent hitting coach.
jackjohnson52183
How?
Poster formerly known as . . .
Paul has discussed this several times while announcing ballgames on YES.
Dr2022
I agree. Whoever they have now, it’s not working. That’s for sure.
Dr2022
Makes sense pink, so it’s probably exactly what they will not do. They will make some inexplicable, stupid move as usual that doesn’t work ultimately.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Why? Who? Where? When? How? What?!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hohnav21
There is no accountability anymore. Seems right.
Hexbreaker
Judge is definitely leaving now.
jackjohnson52183
Rob Manfred,After The World Series Ends,No Matter Which Team Wins,Has To Additionally Punish The Houston Astros,By Ordering Them To Trade Justin Verlander & Alex Bregman To The New York Yankees For Josh Donaldson & Randy Vasquez & Also Trade Lance McCullers Jr.,Jose Altuve & Yuli Gurriel To The Miami Marlins For Tanner Scott,Joey Wendle & Garrett Cooper,Even If 1 Of Those 5 Remaining Players From Their Sign Stealing Scandal,From 2017,Has A No Trade Clause,Which They Would Also Order To Terminate From Their Contracts.