The Blue Jays have announced that they have acquired relievers Zach Pop, Anthony Bass and a player to be named later from the Marlins, who will receive prospect Jordan Groshans in return.
This will be the second stint with the Blue Jays for Bass, 34, who was with them in the shortened 2020 season. That year, Bass threw 25 2/3 innings out of the Toronto bullpen, putting up an ERA of 3.51 along with a 62.3% ground ball rate, 21% strikeout rate and 9% walk rate.
He reached free agency at the end of that campaign and signed with the Marlins on a two-year deal with a club option for 2023. In the first year of that deal, he put up fairly similar numbers to 2020, but he’s found another gear this year. As noted by MLBTR’s Steve Adams recently, Bass has started throwing his slider more this season and found excellent results. In 44 2/3 frames this year, he has a miniscule 1.41 ERA with a 26% strikeout rate that’s a career high. He’s also only walking 5.8% of batters faced, which is well below league average. He’s making a $3MM salary this year, with around $1MM left to be paid out, and has a $3MM club option for next year. By picking him up, the Blue Jays are adding a veteran that they know, having a career year on an affordable contract.
Pop, on the other hand, is just 25 years old, turning 26 next month. He was originally drafted by the Dodgers but went to the Orioles in the Manny Machado trade. In the 2020 Rule 5 draft, he was selected by the Diamondbacks, who flipped him to the Marlins. A ground ball specialist, Pop stuck with the Marlins for the entire 2021 season, throwing 54 2/3 innings out of their bullpen with a 4.12 ERA, 57.6% ground ball rate, 20.7% strikeout rate and 9.8% walk rate.
Here in 2022, he’s been bounced between Triple-A and the big leagues throughout the year, having been optioned and recalled three times. In his 20 MLB innings, he has a 3.60 ERA, 63.1% ground ball rate, 16.9% strikeout rate and 2.4% walk rate. In 24 1/3 innings at Triple-A, he’s posted fairly similar results, albeit with a few more walks. He logged a full year of service time last year but will fall short of the two-year mark this season because of that time spent in the minors. That means the Jays will be able to keep him around for five more seasons beyond this one, with Pop also capable of being optioned between the majors and the minors in the future. He comes with less of a track record than Bass but is cheap and controllable.
For the Marlins, they floated around the playoff race but have fallen off in recent weeks, currently 47-56 and 8 1/2 games out of a postseason spot. They are using some of their bullpen pieces to acquire Groshans, a prospect with strong pedigree but disappointing results this year. Selected by the Jays with the 12th overall pick in the 2018 draft, he was considered one of the top 100 prospects in the sport by Baseball America from 2019 to 2021. He was limited by injuries to just 23 games in 2019 and then saw the minor league wiped out in 2020.
He got back into a groove with a fine season in 2021, hitting seven home runs and slashing .291/.367/.450 in 75 Double-A games. However, this year has been a downturn, with Groshans struggling at Triple-A. He’s always had a good approach at the plate, walking almost as much as he strikes out, and that’s still true this year. His 12.5% walk rate and 16.5% strikeout rate are both much better than average, but he’s shown absolutely no power production on the season. He has one home run in 279 plate appearances on the season, leading to a tepid slash line of .250/.348/.296, wRC+ of 82.
For Miami, they are surely hoping that Groshans’ will eventually tap into more power to combine with his keen eye and bat-to-ball skills. He’s only 22 years old and could certainly still find another gear in that department. Groshans had played mostly shortstop thus far in his career but has gradually spent more time at third, with many prospect evaluators expecting him to eventually settle in at the hot corner. If that is indeed the case, he will certainly need to tap into more power in order to be a viable big league third baseman.
For the Blue Jays, they’ve added a couple of interesting pieces to a middling bullpen as they gear up for a stretch run. For the struggling Marlins, they’ve bought low on a prospect that was once considered one of the best in the game, hoping to find some value for the future.
Shi Davidi of Sportsnet was the first to report a deal involving Pop and Groshans. Craig Mish of Sportsgrid was the first to report that Anthony Bass was also heading to the Jays. Jon Heyman of the New York Post relayed that the Jays would also get a smaller piece, which Davidi relayed as a player to be named later.
PaulSimon
Another solid bullpen arm for the future AL champions
PaulSimon
Wow two of ‘em
ctguy
“the future AL champions”
Highly doubtful, he was traded to the Blue Jays
MarlinsFanBase
Bass will make sure that the Blue Jays are not the AL Champions. Heck, he may even make sure they don’t make the playoffs.
Jobba11
What I’m missing on Bass ? I don’t watch much Mia and just did a quick look at his numbers , he’s having a good season no?
myaccount2
Marlinsfanbase- Anthony Bass, the dude with a 1.41 ERA (290 ERA+), 2.06 FIP, 0.2 HR/9, 2.0 BB/9, and 9.1 K/9? I can understand if you were talking smack about Pop, but your criticism of Bass is illogical. Dude has given up 1 HR in 44.2 IP and only 7 total earned runs. Can’t have been that bad.
Jobba11
Man that’s what I thought also , I was just looking at numbers again to see if I missed something . Looks to be having a great season
MarlinsFanBase
Oh trust me, it’s bad. Mattingly had to place Bass in safe situations with a short leash to get those numbers out of him. The guy was garbage for his entire time for us. He hasn’t found a late-inning lead that he can’t blow.
MarlinsFanBase
I, and every Marlins fan, watched him every game for the last season and a half. This year’s numbers are deceptive. Trust me, there is not one Marlins fan that isn’t happy today. We’ve been hoping for this departure since last year.
Halleluiah!
myaccount2
His statcast numbers are elite for a reliever. I see that he gets worse the higher the leverage, but he’s still an ideal 7th/8th inning reliever based on the numbers. He has actually pitched quite well with RISP, too.
myaccount2
I can see the numbers being better than they appear. Not the ideal arm to inherit runners on base. Still seems a bit exaggerated to celebrate this much. That’s just me though haha
MarlinsFanBase
OK, don’t take the word of a Marlins fan that saw and suffered watching him for a season and a half. Not heeding the warnings of fans that see players every day always works out well. Right?
Good luck. lol!
Taejonguy
Marlins, there us the flaw in your comment. There is only a single fan- you! That is simply too small a sample size
THEHOUSETHATMOSEBYBUILT
Wow, you guys are easy to please!
Let’s trade together more often…
MarlinsFanBase
I agree. We should trade with each other more often. We traded Jonathan Villar to you in 2020 for Griffin Conine. We trade you Anthony Bass and Zach Pop for Jordan Groshans.
We love trading you our mistakes for your prospects. You’ll enjoy Bass just as much as you enjoyed Villar.
iverbure
Yeah because one fan can’t have a biased because they remember when situation where the guy struggled.
Jaysfan1981
Who?
AceKing
Sometimes it’s better to just keep the mouth closed so no one else can se the ignorance. Mr. Pop will impress you.
Or not, whatever .
Jaysfan1981
To be fair. I commented in the first 30 seconds when there wasn’t anyone named
So perhaps you should go read all the comments and take your own advice
Or not, whatever
bhd360
If it’s just Pop coming back for Groshans that’s brutal.
Jaysfan1981
It just updated to Pop/Bass and a player to be named
Looked up POP. He 2021 wasn’t exactly fire. His 2022 numbers are ok but limited.
Bass was thrown away by the Jays before. I understand he’s “found” something
Not sure how I feel about this, but maybe some Marlins fans can shed light on these 2 players
formerlyz
Pop has a lot of movement on his fastball, and is really intriguing. A big GB guy. If his command is there, I think he has a chance to be better than he has been. He was 1 of the only guys in the bullpen I hoped they either kept for a bit longer, or had him in a deal where they maybe got a more intriguing prospect back
Tacoshells
Wow really a top 100 prospect ? Dang. Giants need to enter the trade game and field offers for Rodon and Duvall
Bk11235 2
Didn’t know Duvall was on the giants
Tacoshells
If you’re not a giants fan I wouldn’t expect you to know their closer
myaccount2
My assumption is he meant Doval
jdgoat
Selling “high” on Groshans. I’m not sure if he’s still in any top 100 lists anyways. The complete lack of power was pretty concerning.
MarlinsFanBase
You call trading for Bass and Pop “selling high”? OK…lol
jdgoat
That’s my point. They got two quality relievers before his value completely tanked. If they traded him one year ago he would’ve headlined a deal for a solid middle of the rotation arm or everyday player.
MarlinsFanBase
Two quality relievers? I thought we traded you Anthony Bass and Zach Pop. Did we trade you two more guys that are actually quality relievers? It’s hard for our team to trade any quality relievers considering that this bullpen hasn’t found a lead that they can’t blow…Bass and Pop being a couple of the main contributors to that, especially Bass.
jdgoat
Just so we’re clear, Bass has came in and given up a run in exactly 6 out of his 45 appearances this year. Zeros are good coming out of the bullpen!
MarlinsFanBase
Don’t take my word. Go with what the stats tell you. Don’t pay attention to the guys that see him play every day for the last season and a half.
JakersTaters
Bass is in the top 10 of all of MLB for holds this year. Any pitchers job is to come in and not allow runs and that is exactly what he does. It is not like he is even stranding lots of runners, his whip is below 1. You can’t blow leads if you don’t give up runs. Not sure how many total blown leads Miami has this year, but the stats show that Bass has only done that 3 times total on the year. Are you trolling or seeing something different than the rest of us?
iverbure
I’ll bet on the stats every time over some guy on the internet who pretends to know what he’s talking about.
UKPhil
@ Iverbure
I can understand your comment, but MFB has a point. With the Marlins, Bass has blown every Save opportunity he’s been given. I think the most painful one was the walk off Hit By pitch against the Mets. More painful for the Marlins Fans than the batter. I see the numbers and am still glad he’s gone
I will miss Pop. He gives it his all. I loved his performance earlier this year when he came in the 6th inning with 2 runners on and no outs. Got the outs with no-one scoring. He’s in his sophomore season after being a raw Rule 5 guy who had to stay with the club last year. I think he’ll continue improving
Ben S
Mr Popcorn!
bigdaddyt
What
Texas Outlaw
Zach Pop is an awesome name!
Bk11235 2
Bass and pop
Bart Harley Jarvis
Is Bass pronounced like the fish or the musical instrument?
Jon M
“bahce”
Jal179
Fish lol
OhthePossibilities
Tuesday Trades Are Killing Me
birdsfan415
Bass back to Toronto!
Tacoshells
O wow trade size and value is increasing for blue Jays looking better
RyanD44
Looks like Blue Jays popped the question and weren’t too far off bass in doing so.
Mario93
Marlins fans, is this guy good? What is his arsenal of pitches?
MarlinsFanBase
Neither one is good. Their arsenals are garbage and less garbage. Batters will be salivating…especially in the late innings.
mydadleftme
He’s trolling. Bass has been very solid this year.
myaccount2
Agreed. Bass is an all-star this season if he were closer.
MarlinsFanBase
I’m not trolling. Anyone that has seen my posts about the Marlins over the last couple of years know that me and many other Marlins fans wanted Bass out.
But go ahead and fool yourselves into thinking you got something. Remember, you all argued with us when the Marlins traded Jonathan Villar to you in 2020. How’d that turn out? Bass is the same. Deceptive numbers. He’s garbage. Trust me.
formerlyz
The Marlins bullpen hasnt found a lead they couldn’t blow the last 2-3 years. Bass has been better this year for sure, but there is some fools gold in there. He has been useful in certain innings. Neither guy is currently a late inning reliever, but that could be useful for an actual good team that could pay $2-3 million for a bullpen guy and afford it. all of that being said, with everything that happened with this bullpen these last couple of years, it’s fair for him to celebrate like this, even though once again, the Marlins didnt get the value they should have/could have got, in comparison to others
formerlyz
To be fair, Pop is at least interesting, and is someone I hoped theyd see if he can increase value the rest of the way/into next year, or be used in a deal for an intriguing prospect. Big GB guy…but ya, as I’ve said, honestly, just get rid of anybody in that bullpen people would actually take and get anything, and same for Aguilar and Stallings. Then try to get something for Wendle and even Rojas
MarlinsFanBase
exactly @formerlyz
This is a great move for the Marlins. I have dreamt of the day when I’d see Bass out of a Marlins uniform. This dream has come true. Now let’s see Okert in another uniform.
This is also a great day for the Marlins Grounds Crew. Two less relievers that they have to wash out the urine off the trail from the bullpen to the mound and then to the dugout when they are done pitching.
Great day for the laundry team. Less adult diapers to be bought, and less stain removers to use to remove the brown stains on their pants.
Bye bye Bass! Go blow leads for someone else!
stymeedone
@MFB
You have made your opinion clear. No need to keep repeating it.
PaulSimon
Really liking the way you ask marlins fans like that you seem like a real friendly dude let me give you my number 4057145220
KC42
I get Groshans hasn’t hit well this year, but the #82 prospect (MLB Pipeline) for 2 relievers? Has his value cratered that much?
Dustyslambchops23
Yes and no.
Jays are in a tough spot, with limited targets and leverage with all the vax restrictions. A bit a of an overpay was inevitable
stymeedone
Yes, the vax restrictions limit the Blue Jays to only 95% of current MLB players, unless, of course, that non vaxed player goes to the corner Rx and rolls up their sleeve in order to get paid. Just an overwhelming obstacle!
Dustyslambchops23
Such a needlessly emotional response
Do you honestly think other teams didn’t hold their vaxxed players over the jays head to try to get more out of them? Assuming you’ve never been in a meaningful negotiation if you can’t see it
Ducey
Always has had problems with health. This year he struggles with uh….pop. No power at all
Jobba11
I feel like I got upset over nothing last season with Austin Martin given his numbers this season. In 2022 I’m willing to assume Jays front office knows the player because it looks like they got it right with 650 OPS martin …. Or they are desperate given what the Yankees did and see the clock running on Vlad and Bo and over paid , both are possible lol
smuzqwpdmx
15 HR in 4 seasons at a power position should tank his value. At this point he’s no longer young enough to say he’ll grow into it, and he’s trending in the wrong direction.
Who wants a no power, no speed third baseman? He’ll have to hit .300 to earn a job.
MarlinsFanBase
Well alright! Make it happen Marlins! Make it happen! To save money, many many many of us Marlins fans will gladly pay Bass’ plane ticket
Can we throw in Okert as well? How beautiful a day it would be to trade Bass, Pop and Okert in one trade? Pipe dream…I know. But I’ll settle for Pop and Bass gone.
Please please please Marlins make this happen! Blue Jays, don’t look this horse in the mouth.
PaulSimon
Hey buddy give it a rest
MarlinsFanBase
I can’t celebrate a departure that I and every Marlins fan has been hoping for the last two seasons?
PaulSimon
Sure buddy have your cheers
vikingbluejay67
“I and every Marlins fan”…
All 3 of them.
One Bite Hotdog
There’s always at least one gobbler
canajay12
Search shows 3/4 arm slot with a 96mph sinker and a hard slider? Okay I’m listening…
Jal179
Does Pop have any years of control remaining? Feels like a light return for Groshans
Richard Head
Not FA eligible until 2027
Jal179
Nice
AceKing
He should…
formerlyz
He has 4 or 5, and Bass is another year after this too
abc123baseball
Throwing back Fishman and Bass within 24 hours? Maybe the Marlins are just clearing the decks to they can land Trout.
DarkSide830
Wow, turning a R5 pick and a cheap signing into Groshans.
MarlinsFanBase
Haaaaaleluah! Bass is gone1 Bass is gone! Bass is gone!
bluejays92
I don’t like this at all lol
Murphy NFLD
Yea i agree, groahans has kinda fallen off and i guess they like martinez way better and they only have space for 1 really.
MarlinsFanBase
Oh trust me, it will get worse for you Blue Jays fans.
MC Tim C
Did Bass sleep with your wife? Your comments are ridiculous and simply false.
MarlinsFanBase
Of course an ignorant comment from someone that hasn’t seen the guy pitch for the Marlins.
You’ll learn when he starts blowing leads for the Blue Jays…at the worse moments.
Maybe he’ll sleep with your blowup boyfriend.
gorav114
Marlins picked up Pop in the rule 5 draft from the Orioles. I’m still bummed about it, especially now that he’s with the Jays
mydadleftme
Oddly written, Makes Bass seem like a consolation addition when he would be the Prize here
MarlinsFanBase
Well, yeah if you like booby prizes that implode.
Jal179
Completely agree. Although if Pop is controllable until 2027 maybe not.
Ducey
Pop is a Canuck. The Jays drafted him as a high schooler in 2014 but he went to college. Then drafted by the Dodges in the 7th round. in 2017. Was a rule 5 pick too.
Jaysfan1981
Rob Ducey was a canuck too. He won a WS as the cheer leader
Let’s hope he turns into another Romano instead of Ducey
AceKing
Zack Pop is another great arm the Orioles couldn’t keep (and probably didn’t know what to do with, a la Josh Hader)
Wish we had never gotten him plucked from the rule 5.
I hope the O’s kick your ass Pop lol
jvent
Hopefully the Mets don’t get scared and make a stupid move just to make one
Dunedin020306
This trade seems encouraging. I hope it works out well for the Jays.
Catch tha Taste
If it’s just Bass and Pop for Grochans than the Jay’s have blown another deal
Catch tha Taste
A guy who was acquired via the rule 5 draft (Pop) and a guy the Jay’s previously released (Bass) for one of their better prospects – that ain’t a good deal. But hey, at least Pop is Canadian.
Jaysfan1981
Of all the valuable prospects, Groshans seemed like the one least valued by the Jays FO. So it makes sense he got moved.
But I was hoping in a Soto deal. Either Soto.
Catch tha Taste
Yes! Soto throws 100+ and moves the needle. These guys are not ones I’d trust with the game on the line in a wild card game.
Jal179
Groshans value is crashing with only 1 HR on the year and will fall out of top 100 prospects in the next edition. Pop controllable until 2027 and throws a 96 mph sinker. Bass numbers are legit this year. Plus the Jays are getting a player to be named later.
I think the Jays made out very well. Groshans is trending towards being just a fringe type MLBer
Jal179
Also, if the Jays avoiding dealing Moreno and Orelvis Martinez they will have done very well. I’m not sure this is the year to go all in with the Yanks and Astros so loaded
Bloodsport604
Zach soda
bighiggy
Am I missing something? Groshans minors numbers this year are terrible? Before this year they were good not great. Why is he so highly rated?
AceKing
It must be that baseball is hard.
bighiggy
That doesn’t explain why he’s so highly rated?
slimmycito
Giving up Groshans for a couple meh guys kinda sucks, but I guess his stock has fallen and that was the price.
bucsfan0004
They got Pop because he’s from Toronto. Big deal – the Jays should really try to get a strike-out reliever instead of more guys like Trevor Richards
Altuves Buzzer
Is the player to be named later Lopez?
What the hell are they doing…..has Groshans stock fell So far….this far…..
Hasn’t Ross said they want bullpen help that can miss bats? They trade a top 100 prospect for reliever that hits every bat.
Ronk325
The Blue Jays remain a comedically inept franchise. This is why you don’t blow money on overrated free agents in order to expedite a rebuild
Dustyslambchops23
Sure bud
georgebell 2
This is why you buy more relief help than Yimi Garcia in the offseason.
jdgoat
This is a take
Jobba11
For a team that started the rebuild after the 2016 season , winning 91 games less than 5 years later and in a wild card spot this year that’s a pretty fast turn around . Granted they had Vlad from the previous front office .
Ronk325
They’ve still won absolutely nothing and have handed out three of the worst contracts in the league over the past few years. Now they have a thin rotation and weak bullpen and find themselves overpaying for relief help. The Blue Jays are closer to their next rebuild than they are a championship
Dustyslambchops23
Lol those 3 contracts aren’t even in the top 20 for worst contracts, get real
MC Tim C
Groshans has no power or speed. He’s a singles hitter. He’s basically a really poor man’s Benintendi. Very little upside with him.
Jal179
His bat skills are nowhere near Benintendi’s
AceKing
“POP” goes Groshans’ value
Chemo850
Marlins gave up one reliever having an elite year, as well as a second solid arm and even a third piece and all they got back was a prospect with career average numbers? Sigh…
formerlyz
I dont know how many times I need to say it for it to be understood. The Marlins dont get value in trades
MarlinsFanBase
Come on @formerlyz. While that is a true statement, you know that there are really no Marlins fans that aren’t happy that Bass is gone.
Good riddance to that mistake.
formerlyz
True, but teams still get value in deals like this all the time
sidewinder11
Super frustrating that Arizona drafted Pop in the rule 5 draft and gave him away to Miami for basically nothing.
MarlinsFanBase
Thank you Kim Ng! Now let’s get Steve Okert out of here, and we’ve made big leaps in this bullpen through addition by subtracting the garbage that have been big contributors to the ineptitude for the last season and a half.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Hop on Pop
padresfan111323
Why are these bullpen guys getting such big returns? Groshan is a highly regarded prospect for a couple relievers- Yankees traded a good prospect for a guy named Effross- usually these mid relievers get next to nothing
Jal179
Does anyone know if Bass is an FA after this year or does he have contract remaining?
MarlinsFanBase
I think he has one more year. He’s you guys’ problem now.
Woo hoo! Go Marlins!
JoeBrady
Click on the link above. That’s what I did.
formerlyz
Wasnt much of a fan of Groshans in his draft b/c I wasnt sure how much impact he would have with the bat, despite his physical profile, but the Marlins could use anything at 3b/on the infield, and his plate discipline works for me as well. And if he taps into to his physicality and start s to make some impactful contact, that’s a big win…honestly, other teams have got better value for their relievers, but I’m just happy to see them finally move a couple of these guys and get anything, and honestly, you cant expect the Marlins to get value in deals, as I’ve said countless times, so just seeming like something is already looking like more than usual, as sad as that is
As I’ve said though, Pop is a guy that could come back to haunt them a bit, similarly to others they’ve dumped. While I wanted their bullpen guys to be moved for anything they could get back, he was a guy I thought it made sense to hold for now, or include him in a deal for something really intriguing. Has 4 or5 years of control after this, and is a big GB guy with a lot of movement on the fastball, and improving command
Bass was surprisingly useful in certain innings this year, but there is some fools gold in there, and honestly, even though he is controlled through next year extremely cheaply, for the Marlins it’s a lot, and he is just 1 of the main reminders of how bad this bullpen has been the last couple of years, and therefore getting rid of him is a win on its own
Jal179
Groshans will not be an impact MLB player. There is a reason the Jays prioritized moving him.
MarlinsFanBase
And Bass is addition by subtraction for us. There’s a reason why we moved him in a deal like this. Pop very likely was to convince the Jays to take him off of our hands.
formerlyz
I insinuated that…
Old York
My mistake in assuming the Jays were planning to be competitive this year.
MarlinsFanBase
I haven’t been this happy about a Marlins addition by subtraction bullpen move since we traded Kevin Gregg, released Renyel “Ford” Pinto, or traded Heath Bell. Great day!
big boi
Marlinsfanbase is such a clown lmao
formerlyz
The day we finalky got rid of Renyel Pinto was a grand day indeed. Sneakiest player in history
MarlinsFanBase
Yes it was. I remember that day. It was the day they fired Fredi Gonzalez and Jim Presley as well. It was as clear a message as ever…especially since Fredi used to insist on putting Renyel in, defend Renyel’s ineptitude and the team’s offensive flaws.
“Fredi, you’re fired…and take your cruddy reliever and batting coach with you!”
formerlyz
I dont remember it being the same day. I remember them firing Freddie b/c the bullpen was garbage and he had no choices, but I dont remember that being the same day. I feel like I reacted to those things at different points in time. Rental Pinto…the giu that never gave up his own runs but literally let every inherited runner ever score
MarlinsFanBase
Yeah, they DFA-ed Renyel before they fired Fredi and Presley, and there was the belief that the Marlins would send him to AAA to work on things while Fredi was still with the organization. But on the day that Renyel cleared waivers, the Marlins decided to fire Fredi and Presley, and release Renyel all within an hour or so.
And yeah, that bullpen sucked. The bullpen of the last two years has given me flashbacks of that Kevin Gregg and Renyel Pinto bullpen.
If the Marlins had a Mount Rushmore (or Mount Blows-more) of failed relievers that blew leads, it would be Kevin Gregg, Renyel “Ford” Pinto, Heath Bell and Anthony Bass. And the best part is that we’d be able to sell that monument for millions to the idiots that look at some of their stats and argue with us Marlins fans that the stats say those guys aren’t as bad as we say they are. “Oh those guys’ stats say they’re good relievers…as long as you don’t put them in high leverage situations.” Yeah, that’s logical. Get relievers that can’t pitch in high leverage situations. I guess as long as you’re not competing for the playoffs, those guys will be ok because the main goal is to make sure some stats dimwit wins his fantasy league championship.
formerlyz
Maybe I remember it differently b/c I was just happy he was finally dfa’d, and then released, so my timeline in my mind is totally different. I was pissed about letting go of Fredi
JimmyForum
Zach Pop and Anthony Bass. Cute boy band names.
Altuves Buzzer
So local news (team owns the sports news channel/network that covers them) selling the deal as 6 years of control between the 2 relievers plus Prop having a great slider that he hasn’t used enough that they hope to unlock.
JoeBrady
Kind of intersting. One year ago, Groshans was a big prospect for TO, and most of the fans used him in setting up trade scenarios. And one year ago, in the off-season, TO let Bass walk. Now they get traded for each other.
formerlyz
I just realized Toronto has like 4 or 5 Marlins bullpen guys from the last couple of years lol…the only decent ones though
Jal179
Tell that to MarlinsFanBase in here. He thinks Yimi, Bass and Pop were the sole source of the Marlins fledgling record the past few years.
The Marlins should be moved. What an embarrassing situation.
formerlyz
Bass is a significant reason, but the entire bullpen has been comically bad. They’re the reason they’ve lost like 70+ games by 2 runs or less these last 2 seasons
MarlinsFanBase
@formerlyz
Yes, when I saw this trade, I chuckled at the fact they’ve built their bullpen with the pieces that were the reasons that our bullpen sucked.
And the Blue Jays fans think they got something? Good luck with trying to hold late-inning leads!
formerlyz
To be fair like 5 of our guys were from the Orioles historically bad bullpen a couple of years ago too…although that probably is a big part in explaining why our bullpen couldn’t find a lead they couldn’t blow these last couple of years
At least Garcia was useful enough for us, and Pop has more upside. Again, none should be late inning relievers, but that still can be useful for a team that can actually afford guys. For the Marlins that need them to be high leverage/late inning guys and cant afford to pay the couple of million, and have nobody else, obviously we know how bad it has been
User 2976510776
I think the Angels mightve blown a chance to get Groshons for Syndergard and someone else. They desperately need a SS having traded away will wilson
bigfatandugly
as a jays fan this is horrible
atkins crams more stuff into the bullpen. where’s the swing and miss. other than romano no one has 96+ velo.
bass is playing his career best ball by a long shot. probably tied to the fact he’s throwing his fastball less than ever and his slider more than ever.
exactly what we need. a 60% slider pitcher in the bullpen.
when did ross atkins start smoking crack?
Aoe3
Im happy with Torontos trades. I dont want them overpaying now when they can do that in the off season/next deadline. Bearing a collapse theyll win a wild card.
NYY gm cashman complained he didnt want to overpay last 2yrs and i completely agree.
Peart of the game
Bass has a 3.09 ERA since 2018 with 8.4 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9. That being said, his groundball rate has dropped to 39% this year and since 2021 he has blown all 7 save opportunities he has had. I’d be more interested in Pop going forwards unless Toronto can get Bass to get more groundballs like he had from 2019-2020.
Bright Side
Pop’s the better pitcher. He has a history of posting better than 60% GB rates.
Rob66
The Marlins have made some strange trades over the years. They twice traded Luis Castillo for aged veterans. And they got nothing out of the Yelich trade.
usafcop
The Bass is Popping now….
Poster formerly known as . . .
Any relation to Iggy?