Orioles pitching prospect DL Hall made his Major League debut yesterday, allowing five runs over 3 2/3 innings in an 8-2 loss to the Rays. The outing will act as a cup of coffee for Hall for the time being, as the Orioles will send him back to Triple-A today and transition him to relief pitching. MASNSports.com’s Roch Kubatko writes that the O’s view Hall as an intriguing bullpen option for this season, as a live arm with the potential to work multiple innings in a game.
The move also allows for the Orioles to limit Hall’s innings. With 81 1/3 total frames pitched in the majors and minors this season, Hall is already within sight of his career high of 94 1/3 innings pitched (in 2018 in A-ball). Given Hall’s injury history and the fact that he tossed only 31 2/3 IP last year, Baltimore is trying to both manage Hall’s health and capitalize on his short-term potential to help the Orioles’ surprising postseason bid.
More from around the AL East…
- There is optimism that George Springer will be able to exit the 10-day injured list when first eligible on August 15. Blue Jays interim manager John Schneider told reporters (including The Athletic’s Kaitlyn McGrath) that Springer won’t need a rehab assignment, and the outfielder is already hitting on the field and playing catch. Springer has been bothered by a sore right elbow for most of the season, with the problem finally forcing him to the IL after he had to sit out five games in a seven-game stretch.
- Wander Franco and Harold Ramirez are both scheduled to start minor league rehab assignments this week, Rays manager Kevin Cash told reporters (including Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times). Ramirez is closer to a return, as the outfielder will start his assignment with Triple-A Durham today. Ramirez fractured his right thumb after being hit by a pitch on July 17, interrupting an outstanding first season in Tampa that saw the 27-year-old hit .329/.379/.446 over 264 plate appearances. Franco underwent hamate bone surgery in mid-July, so his planned work with the Rays’ Florida Coast League affiliate this week fits into the initial 5-8 week timeline given for his recovery. Between the broken hamate bone and an earlier quad strain, Franco has been limited to 58 games in his sophomore season in the majors.
- Giancarlo Stanton has been increasing his on-field activities, and Yankees manager Aaron Boone told ESPN’s Marly Rivera and other reporters that Stanton will hopefully be able to have “a full pregame workout” within the next day or two. Once that step is established, the team can explore a rehab timeline for Stanton, who has been on the 10-day IL since July 24 due to left Achilles tendinitis.
Boy has our Yankee line-up missed you Giancarlo, get better!
Capt, We have surely missed the big G in the lineup as well as the Carpenter, but it’s the pitching that really has me concerned.
@Mick- what angers me is, where is Clarke Schmidt? The Yankees have zero faith in him. It’s time to see what this guy can do already, as a starter. I feel he’s better then German.
Capt,
I think they are content for now to stretch him out at Scranton. During his last stint he was used as a multi-inning reliever and did quite well. With Montgomery gone I think they see another starter as a higher priority. Unfortunately they need both. Hope they get Severino back by early September or there abouts. Hoping Efross and Trevino settle in quickly to help the bullpen, which I think is a real mess. Who’s the closer?
Isn’t Clay Holmes the closer now? It seems Chapman is the 8th inning guy now.
@Mick- I was really pist we traded Monty. Are you a Bader guy? What sucks is we are waiting for another month for Sevvy, Britton, Giancarlo, and Bader. Not a big fan of trading a good starter for a injury player. We definitely got to secure home field. We need Schmidt up here to start. He’s ready. Peraza should be up here, and Gonzalez should be DFA’d. Why keep Peraza if he’s not going to play for us now? Smh
@Fred Newly-acquired Effross closed the game out last night against the RS. The outing did get hairy. I think the situation is fluid until someone finds some consistency. I don’t think fully entrust Chapman just yet. They also have Zach Britton coming back soon.
Not the greatest trade, but it shows how desperate the Yankees have begun with Hicks….I’m surprised they did not look up the Milkman.
The trade looks bad at first glance but Cashman has earned a little leeway with players like Bader. Voit, Gio, Carpenter, Trevino, Green, Didi and Holmes have proven the front office has a decent eye for a diamond in the rough. Giving up a solid #3 lefty for the player Bader is now is a definite overpay. Imho they already had a similar player in Inciarte they released in June. He would have been fine in CF and who knows, with regular at bats he could find his bat to go with GG caliber defense.
The Great Sting Rays shut you guys out with a bullpen game.. ha ha ha
His “sting rays” comment always makes me laugh. Whether it’s satire or seriousness it is always funny, especially after a win.
Quite the big gulp performance by Hall.
He’s no Akeel Morris, that’s for sure
Oof, yes, tough to watch. In 2006, 3 southpaws were drafted with starter stuff. Today, one makes 31 mil, one makes 13 mil and the other recently retired was around 13 mil last year. I would be surprised if Hall would become a bust, but if he can’t get comfy being a Kershaw, at least hopefully he’ll be nasty on the back end like a Britton or Miller.
Let’s see how many Yankee fans call Hall a bust because he didn’t throw a perfect game in their debut. But don’t worry, if it’s a Yankee prospect he’ll bounce right back.
Us Yankees fans don’t really fixate on other teams like Yankees haters do. But you do you.
There’s actually other teams out there?
…you think you’re kidding, but you’re not. Yankee fans know a lot about their team, but just like New Yorkers in general are unaware of the rest of the world. I guess living in a bubble has its benefits…don’t know what they are, but I am sure you can think of some.
@Sideline Redwine- The stingrays suck root for another team, talk about living in a bubble? Why are their so many Yankee fans In Florida? It’s because the Yankees are a winning organization, not a loser like you, rooting for a loser team. To me their is only one team in NY, the team I root for, that’s all that matters to me.
I eat stingrays for breakfast, lunch and dinner!
“Yankee fans know a lot about their team, but just like New Yorkers in general are unaware of the rest of the world.”
When you were typing that, did it not occur to you even for an instant how ridiculous it was to make a blanket statement like that about 8.9 million people, probably all of whom, and certainly most of whom, you don’t know personally?
Where do you live, btw?
The Sting Rays stung your sorry arse, Mate. hahaha
Average,
Only an idiot would see one performance of a young player and call him a bust! Every team has idiots as members of their fan base. For the millionth time the press not the fans overhype prospects. I try very hard not to comment on a prospect unless I have seen him play at least 4 or 5 times. I am a season ticket holder to the Salem Red Sox and watch a lot of minor league baseball. Ironically, what you discover if you actually watch the prospects, is that you almost always can’t make a judgement. One day they look like Mickey Mantle and the next like a little leaguer – that’s why they’re called prospects!,
@Mickey777- it’s funny a lot of idiots out there we’re making fun of Frankie Montas after only one start with the Yankees(although not a rookie) he looked good out there yesterday against the Red Sox. Hopefully that continues.
Hall’s a bust. Garcia’s going to be ROY in ’23.
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Is there ANY proof that limiting innings reduces the chances of injury, either long term or short term? It seems to me that there are a lot MORE pitcher injuries in the modern game than there ever was in the 70s and 80s when pitch counts and innings limits were not even imagined.
A lot of minor injuries then were overlooked imo. Teams have a lot more invested in their players now too so they’re more likely to coddle them. But I do agree it doesn’t really add up. Strasbourg should’ve played in the playoffs all those years ago when the Nats were the favorites
I somewhat agree, even though that is a weird way to think. The more they have invested in them, the more they should want to use them. If I hire two people to do the same job and I pay one quite a bit more due to experience and/or overall skill, I am going to expect more from the guy I am paying more money. Baseball just seems to do the opposite in some cases.
Yes, but you’re right that there is more to it. The stress of the innings pitched and frequency of use also have a big impact. The big problem is the emphasis on velocity and strikeouts, which forces pitchers to go max effort more often. Pitch to contact guys struggle to get call-ups.
I agree with that wholeheartedly. They don’t teach guys to PITCH anymore, they just teach them to throw. Greg Maddux was the best pitcher of the latter half of the 20th century and his fastball was barely average back then. Today he probably wouldn’t even make a college rotation, not because he wouldn’t be good enough, but because they’d never give him a chance to be good enough because of the emphasis on the radar gun.
The sport has (d)evolved has better or worse. Gone are the pinpoint finesse pitchers, knuckleballers, and submarine-style relievers which this generation won’t witness much of.
I can promise you that if 80 mph soft tossers were still effective that the Rays/Astros/Indians etc. would’ve been all over that market inefficiency. There’s a reason why the guys who make it do.
Thanks. If we have your promise, I guess that seals the deal. Spread the word, there is no need for more research, we have our promise secured.
hiflew: It’a good question. Years ago Baseball America had a article where they crunched some numbers. It showed that if a pitcher had their innings increase by more than 40% from year A to year B, then the following year (year C) they had a high risk for injury. That is one of many BA articles I wish I held on to. I haven’t come across any analysis since then.
I don’t disagree with the principle over all, but I don’t think you’re wrong. I think there is wisdom to having a SP slowly work their way into going deeper into games on the farms to hope they have a lower risk of being held back by an injury. In having watched Andrew Painter’s game logs, the Phillies have slowly worked him deeper into games while moving him through the system. Sure there’s a chance he gets injured anyways, but this program has worked well in helping him both rise the levels and pitch SP level IP – he’s already knocking on the AA door at 19, is throwing 7 IP, and is doing it with great results (1.11 ERA this season). Personally, I think the program Painter is on is the optimal one.
*ignore the redundancy in the 1st sentence
Ramirez and Franco back in would be huge.
The stingrays haven’t traded Franco yet? Oh yeah next season when he’s healthy. Gotcha.
There’s not a person with worse takes on this whole site than you. The Rays live rent free in your head, you mention them every article.
Yes, the Rays really need a spark as these guys come off the IL. The division is still up for grabs and so are the WC spots.
All signals pointed to him not being ready. Now he’s back in triple A knowing he got completely smoked by the major league hitters. Not a great way to handle this guy
When you have a fan base as large as the Yankees have, it’s inevitable that there’ll be a large share of idiots; but this is sickening:
msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/yankees-fans-push-it-too-…
Of course, the wonderful world of the internet enables keyboard badasses to sound off with anonymous bravado. The thing is, these lighthouses don’t even know baseball. In high-leverage at-bats, Kiner-Falefa has the second-highest BA of all shortstops, and that’s with the highest number of such at-bats:
fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&#…
Only Beau Bichette has more RBI in high-leverage at-bats.
Overall, IKF has the seventh-highest BA of all qualified shortstops and the fifth-lowest K%. He has the highest Clutch rating and he’s seventh in Win Probability Added.
fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&#…
The only defensive metric that doesn’t like Isiah is OAA, but it likes Correa, Turner and Crawford even less, and I doubt that their fans are groaning about their defense.
Yankee fans who watch the games should know that IKF isn’t hurting the team; he’s helping, his 11 errors notwithstanding. We only have to compare last year’s defense to this year’s and note his performance in clutch situations. When he comes to bat with men on, I don’t get that Tyler Wade sensation expecting the worst (he’s batting .313 with men on). He might not be the shortstop of the future, but if he came back next year I wouldn’t mind at all. He’s the least of our troubles.
Sorry the links don’t work, sports fans. Here’s the first one again; maybe it’ll work this time:
msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/yankees-fans-push-it-too-…
The rest you can look up on Fangraphs.
Thanks for sharing the link. What they did on social media is utterly disgusting, regardless of how IKF is doing on the field. Thankfully, folks with 2/3 of a brain understand that one idiot doesn’t define the group.
Aaron Judge blocked Jomboy and his friends on Twitter. I’d imagine it was because they were calling IKF awful, but I don’t really know.
I don’t swim in the cesspool that is antisocial media, but I’m not surprised Judge would do that. In fact, I’d have been more surprised if he hadn’t. He always vocally supports his teammates.
Fink,
IKF has been fine! He is, however, limited offensively. Hoping that Peraza and or Volpe can be factors by next year, but would not be bummed out to have IKF as our every day SS, again next year. I do think that he is best suited to be a modern day utility infielder. By modern day, I mean plays a couple of times a week when everyone is healthy and is right there if someone gets injured.
I wonder if we’ll see Peraza before this season is over.
A reasoned argument by a passionate fan. We’re in the minority on IKF, but tip of the cap to you Fink
Thanks and back at you.
I agree fink
TB could sure use a boost from Franco or any other regular on the IL. It will continue to be a tight race all the way down the stretch, so any way to improve the active roster will be key.
Fink: In my opinion, ESPN is horrible for baseball. They try all these gimmicks such as putting a mic on a player, splitting the screen to show an interview and showing the announcers. I think a potential new baseball fans would look at this and conclude that nothing important or exciting is happening on the field. How can baseball attract new fans with this horrible message being sent?
Fink: I was replying to your comment about Torres having a mic on in the ESPN game tonight. I guess either you or MLBTR deleted the comment.
I agree completely about ESPN. I deleted it because I regretted a language choice. I don’t want people to mistake my use of a pejorative and think it might’ve applied to Coney, and I shouldn’t be using that kind of word, especially on Sunday.
Locastro made a couple of really good catches, one great, and he’s a fine late-inning pinch runner — but he has no stick and doesn’t belong in a starting lineup. What does Cashman have to lose by calling up Florial? Give him a shot and see if he can be a solution to the Hicks problem.
@Fink. LoCastro or Florial?
(1). Florial is a considerably better outfielder than LoCastro.
(2). Florial is a much better hitter and is left handed which suits their roster better.
(3). Ok LoCastro is a better base stealer,but Florial runs well also and can swipe a bag.
I am at a loss why Florial is not on this roster. I suppose it may be a mute point, since Stanton will hopefully be taking back that roster spot soon.
Even with Stanton back, I’d rather see Florial in the outfield than Hicks.
I guess the only thing you have to lose is Locastro’s elite speed. They could send down Andujar, but I guess they are trying to keep him happy as he previously wanted to be traded.
They’ve shown no concern for Andujar’s happiness before, and I doubt that was a consideration this time. They brought him up because this is his batting line at Scranton: .293/.337/.498/.835 with 12 HR
They desperately needed a bat, as tonight’s flimsy team performance showed.
IMO it would’ve made more sense to bring up Florial to play center field instead of Locastro. This is Florial’s line at Scranton: .280/.361/.486/.846 with 14 HR and 32 stolen bases.
Fink: I see. They shouldn’t cater to Andujar’s happiness. Also, Florial must have a better arm than Benintendi and might be able to meet or beat his current offensive production. However, it looks like they gave up on Florial long ago and decided to trade for Benintendi.
Benintendi’s .196 BA and 79 OPS+ aren’t helping. Montas has had one bad outing in pinstripes and one good one, with no decisions; but he hasn’t pitched more than five innings since June 28. Trivino has been good and Effross okay, not great. Harrison Bader might be healthy enough to play before the season’s over, but he’s in a walking boot now.
All of those moves combined with the loss of Montgomery feels like Cashman effed-up the trade deadline despite giving away a ton of prospect value, particularly in the pitching department, while hugging position player prospects he could’ve afforded to lose. This doesn’t feel to me like a stronger team than before he cut those deals. And they sure aren’t playing like a stronger team.
On the bright side, I’m not going to let the fortunes of a bunch of millionaire athletes spoil my day. It’s just a game, and any emotional investment is voluntary. I’m already resigned to accepting that the first half was squandered by Cashman at the trade deadline and I’ll be shrugging off a collapse and another postseason failure. But if that does happen, I hope for at least one thing: that Hal will finally muster enough pride in the franchise to care about more than the profit margin and will hire a new GM.
I agree, but i think unfortunately hals friend cash man remains.
Cash was an absolute rockstar a month and a half ago!
Peaks and valleys—let’s talk at the end of the year.
Too bad it’s not another 6-month season like 2020.
Oops. I mean a 60-game season.
Finally, they’re bringing Florial up on Wedneday, says Bob Klapisch:
msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/report-yankees-to-call-es…
Max Goodman of S.I. added this:
“When it comes to New York’s outfielders, they could option Miguel Andújar or Tim Locastro back down to Triple-A.
“They’re stuck with Aaron Hicks, who is under contract through the 2026 season.”
No, they’re not stuck with him. They can DFA him, if Cashman can admit he made a mistake giving him a 7-year, $70M extension.
They need to do something! Even if they played .500 ball until players started coming back it would be better than what it is now. The kids should have been brought up when the injuries started, and maybe given the team a spark, instead of relying on part-time veteran players who’s better days are behind them, or will get injured at the drop of a hat. They probably didn’t bring people up from the minors because of some team control nonsense, or trust issues, but how can you trust guys like Hicks and Gonzalez that stink on ice?