The Angels reportedly don’t have any interest in trading Shohei Ohtani, but that hasn’t stopped the team from at least listening to offers out of due diligence, Jon Heyman and Joel Sherman of the New York Post write. The Padres are one of those teams who have called about Ohtani, according to The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, who adds that this is the type of aggressive move that has become typical of San Diego president of baseball operations A.J. Preller. There doesn’t seem to be any indication that the Padres have caught the Halos’ attention, except in the broader sense that the Padres have the depth of premium young talent that the Angels would undoubtedly want if they actually did considering sending Ohtani elsewhere.
Frankie Montas and Luis Castillo have also been linked to the Padres in trade rumors, and as Rosenthal notes, it is noteworthy in itself that San Diego is looking at pitchers despite having plenty of rotation depth on paper. However, MacKenzie Gore was recently placed on the injured list, Sean Manaea has struggled as of late, and the Padres could be trying to land a pitcher controlled through at least 2023 considering that Manaea, Joe Musgrove, Mike Clevinger, and Nick Martinez could all potentially enter the free agent market this winter. Furthermore, someone like Blake Snell could be dealt to try and stay under the luxury tax threshold, as avoiding another tax payment is another consideration for Preller to manage as the deadline approaches.
More from around the NL West…
- Also from Rosenthal, Diamondbacks officials are “doubtful” that Christian Walker will be traded. The first baseman’s name has been mentioned in trade speculation, but the D’Backs understandably have a high asking price for an all-around productive player who is under team control through the 2024 season.
- A seven-game losing streak has dropped the Giants to 48-50, but as of last night, the team wasn’t planning on selling at the deadline, ESPN’s Buster Olney tweets. Chasing down the Dodgers for first place is probably out of the question, but San Francisco is still only 3.5 games out of the final wild card spot, and a +26 run differential argues that the Giants are at least a little better than their losing record indicates. That said, the Giants have several intriguing trade options, including Carlos Rodon (who can opt out of his deal after the season) as a rental piece. SKOR North’s Darren Wolfson speculates that the Twins would be one of many interested parties if the Giants did shop Rodon, as Minnesota “were right there” in trying to sign Rodon last winter.
- Rockies closer Daniel Bard is drawing interest from more than one team, MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand reports. Bard (who turned 37 last month) is enjoying a career revival as the Rockies’ ninth-inning man, recording 21 saves and posting a 1.91 ERA over 37 2/3 innings. Despite these numbers and the fact that Bard is a free agent after the year, however, most of the buzz around Bard has focused on Colorado’s efforts to extend him, rather than shop him at the deadline.
The cost to get Carlos Rodon?
Five to six top prospects and or MLB ready players
You’ve got Soto brain!
Uh, did you see what the D-Backs just did to him? Lower your price.
“5 HR in 110 IP? You’ll take 2 HR in 6 IP and like it.” The fact that he got punished for every single BB/HBP he handed out was just *chef’s kiss*
Side note, I think the DBacks do need to lower their asking price a bit. The horror show that Boston has put on recently effectively takes them out of the running and I don’t see the remaining suitors as quite enough to get a bidding war going. He’s a pretty solid RHH 1B, but he is still a RHH 1B.
No way. Lol
I am glad most of you commenters aren’t G.M.‘a
Nothing would get done at the deadline.
One Reds fan said on another trade that the Cards would have to trade Goldy and Arenado and Gorman to get Castillo
That guy also said Soto Bell and Corbin for Yuli and Urquidy
5 or 6 taco shells from Del Taco on Taco Tuesday.
Since Rodon will get a QO If he stays with SF, the trade value has to exceed a cómp pick.
Most likely a Top 100 prospect or two of an organization’s Top 10 plus a throw in.
You people are crazy…he is a rental…nobody giving up more than maybe a top 100 and a throw in…and a low top 100
2 months of Rodon plus a 2nd round comp pick is how much he has left for the Giants if they elect to hold onto him.
The top 100 guy would probably be closer to 100 than 50.
Glad there are some rational people on here… insane some of the returns some people think these players warrant
I think the cost could be a lot smaller if a comp pick was thrown in. since he has the QO, the least that they will get is a 2nd round pick for doing nothing so it has to be something more than that.
In fairness he said the word OR. As in it would take a top 100 + a throw in OR it would take 2 org top 10 + a throw in.
What he’s worth to the Giants (comp pick), is a separate issue from what a team would give up. Yes, he’s a rental, but I think the value of having Rodon down the stretch, and in the PS, is being underrated. Plus, teams may want to prevent him from going to a division, or WC, rival.
Angels should be looking at Trading Trout. Notice how Trout always sneaks out the 2nd half of the season when the Angels are out of the playoff with a fake injury?
Giants should trade the house and dump the loser manager
Nobody could manage the Giants to playoffs
He helped manage them to 1st place last year, and now he’s a loser manager? lol
helped manage?
Kapler is a total bum for sure.
true if kapler were better then the pitchers would pitch better and the defense would defend better – or maybe it is because guys are playing like crap – I guess it could be either one
The Giants came back to earth and are playing at their skill level….something that didn’t happen last year….finally the NL West is back on track….
But there are other teams like the Orioles and Mariners that are playing above there expected levels this year….it happens in every sport every year….
The Giants needed to move veterans that had bounce back seasons last year but held on to them once again….
There are tons of teams that are in better situations than the Giants right now….sell while you can and revamp….
The Mariners are not playing above their level, that’s dumb and shows you know nothing about baseball.
First off, last year is not this year and they had a lot of young players which get better with time.
Second, the Giants are old, the mariners roster has 20+ guys under 30 years old. Rodriguez is the real deal and that’s a 5-6 WAR player, Winker and Frazier were 4 WAR all-Stars and have underperformed.
Third, Suarez has the most HRs over the last three plus seasons and is playing somewhere between 2019 and 2021 Suarez which is probably real ability. Crawford also is playing at what has become his normal 4 WAR level.
Fourth, Raleigh is breaking out and has been as good or better than Joey Bart at each level in the minors while being the same age, but because he was a 3rd rounder instead of a 1st rounder like Bart, he never got the Top 100 love, but Raleigh has always been this good, but now he’s doing it in the majors.
Fifth, not only that but Gilbert and Kirby were supposed to be homegrown aces and Ray hasn’t come close to pitching like he did in 2021 as the AL Cy Young. If anything the Mariners have underperformed or performed to expectations, but definitely not overperformed.
Sixth, projection systems have always hated young players and a team of mostly young players will not grade out well.
Finally, the bullpen is legit and the pitchers are not benefactors of T-Mobile Ball Park, four of the top 10 relievers by K-rate are Mariners (Munoz, Swanson, Murfee, and Festa. Seward just missed the list, but has turned a corner recently and by the end of the year there could be 5 Mariner relievers in the top 10. They also got rid of the not good relievers like Steckenrider, Misiewicz, Sheffield, and Yohan Ramirez through waiver, trade, or demotion.
If you aren’t scared of the Mariners wait amd watch, they will win 95 games this year, bet on it. Especially once they get healthy and add to their talent. The AL West is about to see the road to the pennant go through Seattle esch year starting with 2023. This year they may be a wild card team, but the Astros are slowly getting old and less talented. First their farm dried up, now stars are leaving (Correa), losing ability (Brantley and Bregman), or will retire soon (Verlander & Gurriel)
@We aren’t Angels….
First off let me start by saying that I know as much or more about baseball than anyone on here….you can bank on that….
Secondly I never said the Mariners were bad in my previous post….I said they along with the Orioles are playing above their expected levels like the Giants of last year….though the Giants played way beyond their abilities and that was 100% an anomaly type season as I have said all along….
The Orioles have young lineup talent sure but their pitching is below average at best….most baseball fans are surprised by their success this season as they were thought to be another 2-3 years out from serious contention….(by most baseball experts) especially in the strong AL East….
I have been telling people that I know that the Mariners and Marlins are coming on fast with the Tigers and Orioles not far behind them…..maybe 2-4 out for the latter 2 teams….while the Marlins and Mariners can strike now at WC spots and perhaps their divisions within 1-2 years….
I simply said the Mariners are playing above their expected level….if it weren’t for their long win streak they would in fact be playing around their expected level….but that win streak put them right in the middle of the WC chase…..
Gilbert and Kirby and Hancock….and Brash all have bright futures and with Marte and Rodriguez and France and Kelenic if he lives up to the hype they will be good for years….I know this and never said otherwise but with the Astros being the Astros and the Angels having Trout and Walsh and Ohtani and Rendon and Marsh I think most figured they would finish above the Mariners but with Rendon out and Marsh not hitting well the Mariners have ran with their success along with the fact that the A’s are rebuilding and the Rangers are bad…..and the Angels injury issues and lack of pitching (same story every season) the Mariners are in line for a WC chase….
With a healthy Angels team would the Mariners be where they are though? I mean Trout and Rendon in the lineup every day….
So sure the Mariners are playing good and have a very bright future but most didn’t peg them as a WC this season…..outside chance sure but they have a legit shot because of Rodriquez and Gilbert and Kirby….and Crawford….
I agree that the Astros are aging and the Mariners can win the division maybe next year or 2024…..I just don’t think many had them playing this well….and they wouldn’t be without that long win streak…..
If Ray gets back on track they can make a legit run at the WC and have a good 1-3 in the playoffs….I would leave Brash in the bullpen with his wipeout slider and let him regain confidence….this is without a doubt a team on the rise as are the Marlins who are stacked with young pitching….
comments only….no novels! wtf….get a girlfriend… both of you!
I have one and she gets upset when I post long messages….lol….thanks for the reminder @Joey Votto….
Suarez most home runs over last 3 plus?! No. Mariners will win 95 this year? So they’re gonna go 41-21 the rest of the way?! Don’t see it happening
The Mariners were projected to win between 78-84 games this season….pretty much the same win total the Giants were projected to win last year so yes they are playing above their expected level as I said above….
To be fair the Giants played way above their expected level and skill level last season which is a totally different situation as the Giants were bad the past few years and then shocked the entire baseball world by winning 107 games last year with aging veterans who most thought were done….
I said that was an anomaly all along and added that this year they will fall back to earth and win between 80-85 games or so.
The Mariners are a team on the rise sure but they were thought to be another year out from serious contention….take that long win streak away and they would in fact be on pace with their projected win total….they will surpass that projected win total obviously with that long win streak….barring a long lose streak….
Also if the Angels had Trout and Rendon healthy all season would the Mariners be where they are?
Nothing was wrong with my assessment. I said they are good just playing a bit above their expected level as are the Orioles who also had a long win streak….
It was simply an observation and opinion that I made. Mariners fans will say they will win 90-95 games but let’s slow down here as the young starters get their innings limited…..and I am sorry but Gonzalez and Flexen aren’t taking them to 90-95 wins….
They could win 90-95 maybe next season or the season after with Gilbert and Kirby anchoring the rotation and not being limited on innings say in 2024…..plus the addition of Marte and the progression of Rodriquez and maybe Kelenic figures things out….but this season is not gonna be that season….
My who point was that the Giants are aging and should have sold on their aging vets after last season fully knowing they wouldn’t come close to their 2021 success….
The Mariners who are playing a bit over their expected level will be buyers in the next couple seasons and be very good soon I was simply saying the Mariners and Orioles seem to be this seasons Giants….just not on the same level of course….
The Orioles are playing way better than expected and the Mariners are playing a tad over their expected level but the Giants played way above expectations….that was 100% an anomaly as I said all along….
As far as Suarez he is laughable….always had the power but can barely hit his own weight most seasons….his best years are long gone…..
The Mariners were projected to win between 78-84 games this season….pretty much the same win total the Giants were projected to win last year so yes they are playing above their expected level as I said above….
To be fair the Giants played way above their expected level and skill level last season which is a totally different situation as the Giants were bad the past few years and then shocked the entire baseball world by winning 107 games last year with aging veterans who most thought were done….
I said that was an anomaly all along and added that this year they will fall back to earth and win between 80-85 games or so.
Nothing was wrong with my assessment. I said they are good just playing a bit above their expected level as are the Orioles who also had a long win streak….
It was simply an observation and opinion that I made. Mariners fans will say they will win 90-95 games but let’s slow down here as the young starters get their innings limited…..and I am sorry but Gonzalez and Flexen aren’t taking them to 90-95 wins….
They could win 90-95 maybe next season or the season after with Gilbert and Kirby anchoring the rotation and not being limited on innings say in 2024…..plus the addition of Marte and the progression of Rodriquez and maybe Kelenic figures things out….but this season is not gonna be that season….
My who point was that the Giants are aging and should have sold on their aging vets after last season fully knowing they wouldn’t come close to their 2021 success….
The Mariners who are playing a bit over their expected level will be buyers in the next couple seasons and be very good soon I was simply saying the Mariners and Orioles seem to be this seasons Giants….just not on the same level of course….
The Orioles are playing way better than expected and the Mariners are playing a tad over their expected level but the Giants played way above expectations….that was 100% an anomaly as I said all along….
As far as Suarez he is laughable….always had the power but can barely hit his own weight most seasons….his best years are long gone…..
The Mariners were projected to win between 78-84 games this season….pretty much the same win total the Giants were projected to win last year so yes they are playing above their expected level as I said above….
To be fair the Giants played way above their expected level and skill level last season which is a totally different situation as the Giants were bad the past few years and then shocked the entire baseball world by winning 107 games last year with aging veterans who most thought were done….
I said that was an anomaly all along and added that this year they will fall back to earth and win between 80-85 games or so.
Nothing was wrong with my assessment. I said they are good just playing a bit above their expected level as are the Orioles who also had a long win streak….
It was simply an observation and opinion that I made. Mariners fans will say they will win 90-95 games but let’s slow down here as the young starters get their innings limited…..and I am sorry but Gonzalez and Flexen aren’t taking them to 90-95 wins….
They could win 90-95 maybe next season or the season after with Gilbert and Kirby anchoring the rotation and not being limited on innings say in 2024…..plus the addition of Marte and the progression of Rodriquez and maybe Kelenic figures things out….but this season is not gonna be that season….
My who point was that the Giants are aging and should have sold on their aging vets after last season fully knowing they wouldn’t come close to their 2021 success….
As far as Suarez he is laughable….always had the power but can barely hit his own weight most seasons….his best years are long gone…..
The Mariners were projected to win between 78-84 games this season….pretty much the same win total the Giants were projected to win last year so yes they are playing above their expected level as I said above….
To be fair the Giants played way above their expected level and skill level last season which is a totally different situation as the Giants were bad the past few years and then shocked the entire baseball world by winning 107 games last year with aging veterans who most thought were done….
I said that was an anomaly all along and added that this year they will fall back to earth and win between 80-85 games or so.
Nothing was wrong with my assessment. I said they are good just playing a bit above their expected level as are the Orioles who also had a long win streak….
It was simply an observation and opinion that I made. Mariners fans will say they will win 90-95 games but let’s slow down here as the young starters get their innings limited…..and I am sorry but Gonzalez and Flexen aren’t taking them to 90-95 wins….
They could win 90-95 maybe next season or the season after with Gilbert and Kirby anchoring the rotation and not being limited on innings say in 2024…..plus the addition of Marte and the progression of Rodriquez and maybe Kelenic figures things out….but this season is not gonna be that season….
As far as Suarez he is laughable….always had the power but can barely hit his own weight most seasons….his best years are long gone…..
The Mariners were projected to win between 78-84 games this season….pretty much the same win total the Giants were projected to win last year so yes they are playing above their expected level as I said above….
To be fair the Giants played way above their expected level and skill level last season which is a totally different situation as the Giants were bad the past few years and then shocked the entire baseball world by winning 107 games last year with aging veterans who most thought were done….
I said that was an anomaly all along and added that this year they will fall back to earth and win between 80-85 games or so.
Nothing was wrong with my assessment. I said they are good just playing a bit above their expected level as are the Orioles who also had a long win streak….
It was simply an observation and opinion that I made. Mariners fans will say they will win 90-95 games but let’s slow down here as the young starters get their innings limited…..and I am sorry but Gonzalez and Flexen aren’t taking them to 90-95 wins….
As far as Suarez he is laughable….always had the power but can barely hit his own weight most seasons….his best years are long gone…..
The Mariners were projected to win between 78-84 games this season….pretty much the same win total the Giants were projected to win last year so yes they are playing above their expected level as I said above….
To be fair the Giants played way above their expected level and skill level last season which is a totally different situation as the Giants were bad the past few years and then shocked the entire baseball world by winning 107 games last year with aging veterans who most thought were done….
I said that was an anomaly all along and added that this year they will fall back to earth and win between 80-85 games or so.
Nothing was wrong with my assessment. I said they are good just playing a bit above their expected level as are the Orioles who also had a long win streak….
As far as Suarez he is laughable….always had the power but can barely hit his own weight most seasons….his best years are long gone…..
The Mariners were projected to win between 78-84 games this season….pretty much the same win total the Giants were projected to win last year so yes they are playing above their expected level as I said above….
To be fair the Giants played way above their expected level and skill level last season which is a totally different situation as the Giants were bad the past few years and then shocked the entire baseball world by winning 107 games last year with aging veterans who most thought were done….
I said that was an anomaly all along and added that this year they will fall back to earth and win between 80-85 games or so.
As far as Suarez he is laughable….always had the power but can barely hit his own weight most seasons….his best years are long gone…..
Exactly….Suarez the right handed Pederson all power but can barely hit .230
The Mariners have a bright future it’s just not here yet…..
Exactly….Suarez is a RH Pederson….
Sure he will hit 25 HR’s but adds nothing else….they have a bright future it’s just not here yet….
If the Angels trade Oh, they might as well include Trout in the deal. Then sell the team to an owner who
1) has a clue, and
2) wants to win.
“they might as well include Trout in the deal”
Most teams can’t afford what it would cost just to get Ohtani or Trout. What team has enough trading power to afford both of them? And as a side note, Trout has a full no-trade clause in his contract. The Angels can’t “might as well include Trout in the deal” even if they wanted to.
throw trout in as a bad contract
Dammmmn Gina…too soon!
Recurring back problems for an exorbitant cost.
But it’s not a bad contract so….
Trout has pretty serious health issues.. might b a lot of dead money coming on that contract now
Some serious health issues? Besides the back, which is probably not a new issue, just a new public reveal, what other chronic health issues does he have?
So, just like many other Arte Moreno contracts of the past?
you dismiss the back like this isn’t a chronic deal
Roid issues
Well, he does take HGH for a ‘health issue’. I have never known anyone who was prescribed HGH for anything, yet Trout- who happens to be a professional baseball player- somehow needs it.
Starting in 2017 and not counting the 2020 shortened season, Trout has missed nearly 250 games…there is a serious problem here made infinitely more so with this chronic back problem, to the point where Trout himself feels the need to publicly state that his career isn’t over.
HGH is a banned substance.
Trout would leave the Angels in a second at this point for any contender. With his 5th vertebrae problems in his back you would be selling Trout at an all time low.
Good thought, but even if the Angels tried to just give Trout away for practically nothing- assuming he would agree to a trade, it might be difficult to find a team willing to take on the remainder of his contract. $37 million per year through 2030 for a 31 year old physical wreck who hasn’t posted more than 4 WAR since 2019. If they had traded him before the 2020 season (the last season he was solidly in his 20s- since he turned 30 during the 2021 season), they would have gotten a huge haul in return. Now it’s an albatross contract. 180 degree difference in less than 2.5 years.
After Trout back issues discovered
No one will want that contract
Do any of you understand what a “no-trade clause” is?
Yes, its something the player can waive.
You’re right, the Angels owner is there real problem.
The Cardinals would most probably be better off giving their boat load of talented, major league and major league ready players for Ohtani than for Soto and a washed up pitcher in Corbin.
This trade would benefit both teams immediately!!
If the Angels are serious about winning next year, they will consider taking a haul for Ohtani this year. If we wait until next year’s trade deadline, he will be a short term rental and not return much to us in trade. If we pay him the 45m he wants for however long, we will not have to money for any other meaningful addition and it will be 4th place for the foreseeable future.
the angels are not serious about winning
I would narrow that down to the owner isn’t serious about winning.
Angel fans, Id like to introduce you to Tom Ricketts. At least your owner tries and signs stars to market value deals. Cubs havent signed one of their stars to market value under Cricketts.
So true. Keeping him is more of a business than baseball decision. I’d like the Angels to publicly make the case why they think keeping him benefits the team next year.
The cost of a duel players that is an all star pitcher and hitter? Very high!!
So many players “drawing interest” yet only one major trade has happened so far. But anything can happen in 5 days.
true, nothing ever happens on deadline day
Rockies are so poorly run
I think the Halos should at least consider trading him now. He has peak stats and upside and this and next year left of control. I think that the Dodgers, Padres, Yanks, Mets and Boston would be the best options in that order. They can get 5 or so good prospects and a player or two to replace him in the rotation and line up I would do it. Free Shohei!
If Ohtani ends up with the Padres, you might as well write his career epitaph now. He’ll end up hurt or ineffective within a couple of games.
Hey…hey!!! They resemble that remark and it hurts alright. I mean come on, let’s keep it classy!
The Pads might as well go all in. They are only 12 back.
The Padres are getting one of the top 10, and likely top 5, hitters in mlb soon. A guy with a lifetime 160-OPS+. They may ALSO get Juan Soto and his lifetime 159-OPS+. But I’m sure that many teams will be adding more than that, right?
The reality is that it doesnt matter. Always find a way to lose.
All in now means another decade of losing.
I imagine selling teams want to deal with Preller. He’s desperate to keep his job.
Recently extended through ’26, at least let the ink dry before any boisterous ballyhoo from the peanut gallery!
The ink dried a year and a half go when the extension was signed. Coming off the playoffs in a shortened season, what’s happened since isn’t what Seidler had in mind.
Collapse in 2021, missed playoffs, fired manager. They also lost something like 17 of the last 18 against the Dodgers. Preller is basically out of people to blame, Dude is the most overrated entity in MLB.
Preller has rebuilt the organization three times in 8 years. Why does he still have a job?
Yeah nobody, including Seidler, saw injuries to the pitching staff derailing the 2021 season coming. If you did mind picking the next PowerBall numbers for me?
Nobody saw Tatis Jr and others missing time this season. If you also saw this happening mind picking the mega powerball numbers for me instead?
Injuries are something you certainly never expect to happen. You’re right.
I’m a little tired of hearing the injury excuse. It’s lame. We started 2021 with a thin roster and less than zero pitching depth. Bullpen games in April. Two SPs who were trying to work through injuries. Another SP who should have been in AA ball. And literally nobody close to ML ready in the minors. Preller’s roster construction and management is utterly pathetic.
Correct. Braves won last year without Acuna. They are playing this year without Albies. The Mets are rolling despite Scherzer missing six weeks and nothing from deGrom. Phillies are hanging in the wild-card hunt despite losing Harper, Segura and Eflin. Cardinals doing well with Flaherty probably out for the year, Bader on the shelf and O’Neill just starting to get back to form. Dodgers, with Muncy hitting 50 points below the Mendoza line and losing Buehler and Chris Taylor are just fine.
Injuries? Everybody gets them. Padres just can’t overcome them. And BTW, when are they gonna play that kid Ruiz every day in CF?
The Dbacks should be reluctant to trade Christian Walker, and trade him only for a King’s ransom.
Compare Walker’s stat line with $325 M man Giancarlo Stanton of the Yankees:
Giancarlo Stanton .228/.309/.498 24 HR $32M/yr.
Christian Walker .205/.314./447 23 HR $2.6M 2 more yrs arb., Gold Glove 1b
Walker has equal or better stats than Stanton for 1/10th the price!
Since when is a .447 SLG equal or better than a .498 SLG?
1/10th the cost. Plus a gold glove. Nice piece of info you provided.
Snakes should be aggressively trying to move the 31yo Walker for their high price. Either now or the offseason…move him. Dbacks will not be competing for a title in 23 or 24. They need to be adding young pieces that are certain to help Carroll, Lawlar, Thomas, Varsho, Jones etc in 2025 and beyond.
Not even close.
Walker hasn’t won a gold glove yet, and comparing him to Stanton is silly. A king’s ransom? lmao
It’s beyond ridiculous to compare a guy under team control, with a veteran in his 8th season of a 13 year contract.
The third wild card is the bane of all logic! And I thought farhan was smart and forward thinking ! Chasing the third wild card when the odds are way against you is a stupid stupid stupid idea l
Sell do the forward thinking about when you actually expect to be good ! Accept last year was a flukish run of some career years by some very very Veteran players ! Don’t chase the third wild card it’s not worth it
Why not? The 6th seed has pretty much the exact same chance of advancing as the 3rd, 4th, or 5th seeds. And we don’t know how well the 1 and 2 seeds will react to taking time off. This is the first year for this. The top seeds could easily come out sluggish because baseball teams are not like other sports teams. They are not used to taking multiple days off in a row. I think back to the 2007 Rocktober playoffs when Colorado went off and just everyone until they beat Arizona too quickly in the NLCS and had to wait around for Boston. Boston stayed warm and Colorado cooled down and the Red Sox took the title easily.
Teams with losing records should never be in the playoffs. MLB is going to be as diluted as the NBA and NHL.
Man, if ohtani went to the padres, oh my golly
They would still find an excuse to lose. Much like the Angel’s.
Arte would never let that happen, regardless of how logical the move is
Rodon for Sano straight up. Thoughts?
Giants can do better if they sell on Rodon.
Giants would be better off taking the draft pick from issuing Rodon a QO.
Why would the Angles trade O? He should have ample value in the number of fans who come to the game regardless of how well the team is doing. Fans need a reason to come to the game if the team never wins.
Why even waste your time calling the Rockies about a trade?
Why call the Rockies? They might pay you a bunch of money just to take players.
Giants need to deal Rodon, as I giants fan I like him and they need quality pitching but they are still a year or 2 from truly competing last year was a fluke, they need to to deal everyone not named Webb, Doval, and slater. The team is too old and good enough.
Rondon to the cardinals for mccgrevey and holgate
joc and ruf to the brewers for a guy like bettinger and a throw in
Yaz,flores and wood to the astros for Siri, Whitley and another player
Let some of their prospects like Ramos, Wilson and others play. They aren’t winning this season. If a team wants to move a long term controllable piece like the tigers with skubal, the Red Sox with devers, Murphy from the A’s, Lowe from the rangers do it just keep Harrison. If not for the love of god get this team younger
Angels absolutely should trade Ohtani. They can’t afford to fill the roster with Oh at $5 million, not to mention what he’ll get in arbitration or signing him to a $40+ deal.
Padres make a lot of sense.
I would trade Ohtani and get everything that is Major League ready prospects from the Padres. They aren’t winning this year. We need a SS, seems strange saying that. Need a young catcher, Stassi is overrated.
same story…nothing new
I don’t see the Padres offering more for Ohtani than they are for Soto.
clutchpoints.com/padres-rumor-san-diegos-juan-soto…
Did the Padres agree to pay for Gore’s surgery in the deal to repair his elbow?
the Padres always are in on everyone. They also get their fair share and sign their fair share. They also always finish in 3rd place..or lower. In short, lolPads
Where did you find those idiots? There is a reason that no sane writer is making those claims, they are complete hogwash.
Rockies are such idiots
Ohtani in San Diego would be nice, but too many overpaid underachievers on the team screw the future into the ground.
Pad’s have Soto, Ohtani, Contraes&Happ on the Radar with an eye on Castillo.
You sell the damn farm for Soto or Ohtani. The Cubs will likely take Zoo passes and a brewery tour and maybe Gore at this point.
The Yankees are going to lock up Castillo by the weekend.
I would love to see Preller pull a BDE move and grab Soto, Contraes, Happ and pull a stunner and grab Chafin from Detroit! Then say, F U Sherzer and your crazy eyes!
Nobody makes me look like a bit@h!
Next weeks lineup
Tatis Jr
Cronenworth
Machado
Soto
Ohtani
Contreras
Happ
Hosmer/Voit
Myers/Profar
Bench: Kim/Nola/Alfaro/Ruiz
SP: Musgrove, Darvish, Ohtani, Clevinger, Snell/Manaea, Martinez
RP: Castillo, Pomeranz, P. Johnson, Rogers, Garcia, Crismatt, Martinez, Wilson
The Padres should and would be overjoyed to get Soto alone.
Brah…Preller would go BDE slam it on the table and shatter that mess at that point!
But sadly, still pull a Padre and figure out a way to miss out on the Wild Card…
But only because they don’t address bullpen woes instead of selling the farm
Pomeranz, Suarez, Johnson, Castillo…
But will they finally bring up Castillo? The others, fingers crossed they can come back and be effective.
Daniel Bard?
Who would you trade for him?
Rooker would hit 35 bombs in Coors. Bard might not be that expensive as a 2 month rental.
Preller likes to let everyone know who’s on his “radar.” With all of his misses and failures, maybe he should get his radar fixed.
Good for Bard. Glad he has been able to get it done again.
Typical Rockies. They are looking to extend a 37-year-old relief pitcher. Next to the Angels, the Rockies might be the worst run franchise in MLB. Can’t believe they got zippo last year Story and just watched him walk away.
FGS! Trade Bard and get what you can get. same for Grishek, Blackmon, Kuhl, Marquez and Freeland.
Probably a lot of GMs thinking a change of scenery is all those SP need to do a Tyler Anderson impersonation. Really,. Can you believe that guy is 11-1?
Not nothing. They drafted Sterlin Thompson with the comp pick they got for Story. Although I do agree with you however that the Rockies would be better off trading Bard, who at 37 and without a significant track record of success, is not the type of player you move Heaven and Earth to extend. If they want him back, nothing says they can’t sign him in the offseason even after trading him (like the Yankees did with Aroldis Chapman or the Mets with Jeurys Familia).
In my opinion, the Giants need to get much younger, more athletic/talent, and please, spend some freaking money on premier talent. Their farm system is obviously still years away and there are no guarantees there. Too many holes to fill.
Not selling because of the possibility of a “3rd Wildcard spot” would be a mistake in my opinion. Might sound good in the very, very short term, sell a few tickets, but for the future, a absolute horrible move.
As a lifelong fan, I’m very disappointed in their inability to land a young star to build around. They need to stop acting like a small market ball club. The fans deserve better.
Whoever says the Padres have a depth of young talent hasn’t been paying attention to our farm for the last couple of years. We have about three top tier prospects in the system, and one is currently on the ML roster.
Last year was a magic run, but we need to be realistic. Even if healthy, this team isn’t capable of winning the WS. Our farm system isn’t very good, so we need to take advantage of our assets and stock up.
Pederson and Rodon will both start bidding wars.
Flores is our most consistent batter and I think he’d fetch a surprisingly good return.
Longoria will go on name alone.
Selling is a great opportunity for the organization to truly evaluate the health of their farm system as a whole, as well as how much potential the “top” prospects actually have at the pro level
Put this on a different (older) article so will drop it here to see what others think…..
If Astros threw together a package for Pirates’ B Reynolds which was 2 AAA pitchers (H Brown and F Whitley)……..does anyone think that would work? Or Would it be too much coming from one side or another?
Sorry for double post…..
Long time Angel fan here. The team is difficult to watch because there are so many holes. Ohtani or not, I stopped attending the games as of last year and just cancelled my MLB package with direct TV. It would be great if they could at least be consiatantly competitive. That would bring me back to the ballpark. Two or three guys don’t constitute a team and if you can improve at 3-4 positions (not hard to do with this team) by trading one of your stars then you make that trade. I dont go to games to see star players, I go to games to see my team win.
I agree with you 100 percent. I have also stopped giving even one cent to Moreno to waste on bloated contracts instead of building the farm, and also remembering to sign quality pitchers. Ohtani is his perfect player, he hits, and he can also pitch! If only all pitchers could also hit, then maybe Moreno would sign two or three. Moreno is the biggest problem the Angels have.
If they trade Ohtani, they should attach Rendon’s contract to the deal, even if it means fewer prospects. Ohtani should cost a team 6 to 8 really good players, so the Angels should take only 3 or 4 back if it means Rendon is gone.
Trout will never leave until he retires, and I’m fine with that. He will do what he can, but the rest of the team must be rebuilt from the bottom up.
Besides, when he is a free agent, Ohtani will be a Dodger. I would bet on it. He sees how the Dodgers operate on a daily basis. The Dodgers will not get Soto but instead try to improve the pitching staff. The Dodgers will figure out how to afford Betts, Freeman, Trea, and Ohtani. Because the Dodger owners understand how to maximize their investments in the team and stadium. Their only mistakes so far have been in allowing McCourt to keep part of the parking lots, and Friedman trading Alvarez for Fields. Friedman is not perfect, nobody is, but he is the best at what he does.
Ohtani is very good at two different positions. So to make the team better in the short term, it would require getting 4 or more elite MLB ready prospects. Do you see that happening?
Why would the Padres trade for a starter who is controlled for 2023 just to turn around and trade Snell that’s the worst argument I’ve ever heard. They paid an arm and a leg to get Snell in the first place and he has actually started to turn things around in his last few starts.
Why would any team want to improve its pitching staff? Snell is a sunk cost for the Padres. It doesn’t really matter the cost to acquire him.
Sunk cost with a 3.20 ERA in July?
Ya he is
“Snell is a sunk cost for the Padres.”
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!
Ohtani isn’t going anywhere he’ll fall right in line with losing just like Trout has done. As long as those checks cash those two guys will be fine.
The price for Ohtani would have to be Gore, Abrams, Cronenworth, and more prospects but the Angels will turn that down. Ohtani is too popular amongst fans and attendance is high when he pitches.