July 28: Houston would seek center field and/or catching help that is controlled beyond the current season in any deals for Urquidy or other cost-controlled starting pitching, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports. As Rosenthal points out, many of the obvious cost-controlled options at those positions (e.g. Pirates center fielder Bryan Reynolds, Athletics catcher Sean Murphy) play on teams that would not necessarily be targeting arb-eligible players with only three seasons of control remaining.
Rosenthal posits the Orioles as a potential partner whose current goals could align with those of the Astros, though Urquidy alone seems unlikely to be sufficient to pry Cedric Mullins loose. I’d add that it bears at least some mention that Baltimore GM Mike Elias knows the Houston system better than most rivals, stemming back to his roots as a scouting director and assistant GM with the ’Stros.
Speculatively speaking, both the Cardinals and Mariners have outfield depth and a need for rotation help. The Blue Jays, meanwhile, are deeper in catchers than most clubs and have been on the lookout for potential rotation additions.
July 27: “Controllable starters” is becoming one of the most commonly repeated phrases of the 2022 trade deadline, as far more young arms than expected are being made available to teams in need of starting pitching. ESPN’s Jeff Passan adds the Astros to the growing list of clubs that will at least entertain offers for young, cost-controlled members of their starting rotation, citing multiple GMs who’ve had trade conversations with the Houston front office. Righty Jose Urquidy would appear the likeliest of the bunch to change hands, per the report.
A trade dealing from the Houston rotation isn’t a given, but the ’Stros have plenty of depth to withstand such a move if it means helping them address other areas of need. Justin Verlander, Framber Valdez, Luis Garcia, Cristian Javier, Jake Odorizzi and Urquidy give them six viable starters on the big league roster, and that’s not even including Lance McCullers Jr., who’s on a rehab assignment and trending toward a return to the Major League mound.
Houston also has top prospect Hunter Brown tearing through Triple-A lineups, and righty Brandon Bielak (who has a bit of MLB experience already) is pitching well in Triple-A Sugar Land as well. Former top prospect Forrest Whitley, meanwhile, recently returned from a lengthy stay on the injured list and is building up in Sugar Land, too.
It’s unlikely that Houston would move any member of its current rotation for pure prospects — not when the team has a firm grip on the American League West and appears poised for another potentially deep playoff run. Flipping an arm they control for multiple seasons, however, could be a means of bringing in some help at first base, in the outfield and/or behind the plate. The Astros don’t know when or whether backup catcher Jason Castro and left fielder Michael Brantley will return — Castro from a knee injury and Brantley from a shoulder issue (neither of which the team has elaborated upon to the public). Manager Dusty Baker told reporters about a half-hour ago that Brantley, who’s been on the injured list since June 26, has yet to even swing a bat (Twitter link via Chandler Rome of the Houston Chronicle).
Turning to the list of plausible names for the Astros to consider, it’s fairly logical that Urquidy might top the list. Garcia was the American League Rookie of the Year runner-up in 2021 and is controlled four more seasons — the most of any current member of the rotation — making him tougher to move. Each of Urquidy, Javier and Valdez are under team control through the 2025 season, but Valdez has stepped up as Houston’s No. 2 starter behind Verlander. Javier, meanwhile, is striking out nearly twice as many hitters as Urquidy and allowing home runs at a much lower rate (0.97 HR/9 to Urquidy’s 1.52).
None of that is to say that Urquidy, 27, is expendable or ineffective. To the contrary, he’s a former Top-100 prospect who’s appeared in parts of four MLB seasons now and pitched to a sub-4.00 ERA in each. He’s currently sporting a solid 3.93 ERA through 100 2/3 innings (18 starts). Urquidy is not and never has been an overpowering pitcher, evidenced by this year’s 18.2% strikeout rate and a career 19.8% mark in that regard, but he has some of the best command of any starter in the Majors. Urquidy is tied for the 12th-lowest walk rate among qualified big league starters (5.2%), and he’s tenth-best among 114 starters with at least 250 innings, dating back to his 2019 MLB debut.
Urquidy will be arbitration-eligible for the first time this winter, as will Javier. (Valdez is in the same service class but already hit arbitration as a Super Two player.) His salary should only jump into the $2-3MM range for the 2023 campaign, and he ought to remain relatively affordable through 2025, his final year of team control.
It bears emphasizing that a trade shouldn’t necessarily be seen as likely. Houston is surely taking an opportunistic approach to the depth they’ve cultivated in the rotation, but the Astros also will surely have a high asking price on Urquidy or any of their other young starters — and understandably so. For as deep as the group looks right now, pitching depth is often fleeting, and the Astros can’t know for certain what the future holds for either Verlander or Odorizzi, both of whom have player options for the 2023 season (assuming Verlander throws another 13 2/3 innings to reach 130 frames on the year, that is).
For now, Urquidy can be lumped in with a mounting number of quality arms who could potentially be acquired for a decent return and controlled by his new club for several seasons. The Marlins are reportedly open to offers on Pablo Lopez, while the Guardians are willing to listen on Zach Plesac. They join long-obvious trade candidates like the Reds’ Luis Castillo and Tyler Mahle, and the Athletics’ Frankie Montas, as names to watch in advance of next Tuesday’s 6 pm ET trade deadline.
PaulSimon
Hello saint Louis. Other clubs as well huge here
PaulSimon
For the record i don’t think its very likely these guys will get dealt except maybe urquidy
DonOsbourne
I would love one of the Astro’s pitchers, but I don’t want Mo dealing with Houston. We’d end up with Verlander’s limo driver and they’d get Gorman. I’ll pass.
vaderzim
Nats need to get some back for Josh Bell. Corbin has been a dumpster fire since they started cracking down on the sticky stuff last April.
jjd002
Urquidy for Bell straight up? Doubt you are getting Javier or Garcia for a rental.
vaderzim
2+ months of Bell aren’t worth giving up years of control with Javier or Garcia. Urquidy makes the most sense with McCullers rehabbing, along with a lower level prospect.
C Yards Jeff
Bell for McDermott (sp?) and Santos. Nats are a couple years away from relevancy. These guys are younger (A, A+ ball level) and highly regarded in the Astros system.
Astrosfn1979
I like both those guys but I bet the Astros would do that deal.
SamtheMan!
@jeff
Yeah I agree. I don’t know rhat the Nats would want a guy with soon to be 3 years of service time.
Depends on what they get for Soto. If it’s near ML ready prospects they may. They did take 2 ML ready pieces for Turner and Scherzer. But the System is just so empty that I can’t see them contending in the next couple years either way.
C Yards Jeff
@Jbigz44; Soto deal! YES, good point. What they get in return for Soto (their haul) should truly dictate the Nats time frame in regards to relevancy.
GB85
I wonder if the Jays and Astros could line up here, Jays have three excellent catchers in Moreno, Jansen, and Kirk and could definitely use a starter.
Rsox
The last time those two made a dealine trade the Astros sent Nori Aoki and Teoscar Hernandez to Toronto for Francisco Liriano. While Liriano helped the Astros win the World Series Hernandez has become a pretty good power bat that the Astros would probably like to have right about now
Astrosfn1979
Don’t forget Aaron Sanchez and Joe Biagini for Derek Fisher 2 years later.
pileofsandwich
Isn’t this more of a garbage for garbage instead of losing a good player like he was pointing out?
Astrosfn1979
I prefer to think of it as a makeup deal. At least Sanchez started a no hitter for the Astros.
All Fisher is known for is a mad dash home from second base.
vaderzim
Roberto Osuna for Ken Giles too
smuzqwpdmx
Sanchez and Biagini gave the Astros -0.3 WAR in one season, Fisher gave the Blue Jays -0.5 WAR over two seasons. Both teams literally would’ve been better off releasing the players involved.
The best player in the deal was the unmentioned Cal Stephenson, who stayed in the minors not hurting anyone.
nottinghamforest13
I’d rather have a World Series ring than Teoscar Hernandez.
Geebs
This is true but I don’t think Liriano had much to do with that, I would go as far to say that the garbage cans in the stadium had more to do with it then Liriano did.
jimmyz
I don’t have a rooting interest in either of those teams but that framework would be a fun trade. The rare type of deadline deal where both teams are making win now moves instead of shipping off prospects for rentals.
TradeAcuna
Verlander for Ozuna and his contract
baseballfan90
The Astros could probably get a deal done with the Nats: Soto, Bell, and Corbin for Urquidy and Gurriel. The Nats would be ecstatic to dump Corbin’s contract for this very reasonable package.
Chemo850
I’m guessing this was meant as sarcasm?
baseballfan90
At first I was like “nah this doesn’t look right” but then I was like “ooh wait a minute, this could work.” Astros are in win-now mode and Soto and Bell would really help their chances. As for the Nats, they clear some salary and have some nice young building blocks for the future.
rememberthecoop
No. Just…no.
baseballfan90
This is a good trade: Soto clearly isn’t staying with the Nats long term so he needs to be traded. Astros need a 1B in Bell. The Nats are looking to shed Corbin’s salary so hasta la vista he’s gone. Nats get back a good young arm in Urquidy and Gurriel who’s a seasoned vet that won’t have a role with Houston once Bell comes into town. Everyone wins.
meandean
You should have stopped at, ”nah this doesn’t look right”.
Astrosfn1979
Urquidy is a nice young building Block, but one with limited upside as a #4/5 starter.
Gurriel is 38 yrs old?
Kckidd96
Nice young building blocks? 27 yo Urquidy and 38 yo Gurriel are your building blocks for the future? I see what you’re saying with Corbin but his contract isnt bad enough to justify esentially giving up a superstar top 5 talent in Soto, and a valuable player in Bell for nothing
kellin
“This is a good trade: Soto…”
This trade isn’t happening simply because Rizzo says they won’t dilute trades by including bad contracts. Scroll four posts below the most recent MLBTR chat to see the post talking about it.
itsgonnahappen
I like your humor! At first I was like, is this MFer high, and then I see the laughs…thank you lol!
Obviously the Astros wouldn’t trade Yuli. Much likelier a JJ Multijevich rounds out the deal…
metslvt17
Washington loses big. Urquidy isn’t nearly enough talent back for Soto and Bell, and Yuli is way too old for Washington’s contention timeline. This trade offer isn’t even worth a consideration for the Nationals. It’s utterly ridiculous.
baseballfan90
Washington doesn’t come close to losing this deal. In fact, in a few years we could even be saying they win this.
As for the Nats not offloading Corbin and the Astros gauging interest in Siri, this amended deal could work too: Astros get Soto, Bell, and Strasburg while the Nats get Urquidy, Yuli, and Siri. Everyone wins: Nats offload Soto who clearly wants to be on a contender, Bell wasn’t going to help much in the future, and Strasburg’s contract gets offloaded instead of Corbin’s. Astros get a perennial MVP in Houston, a huge upgrade at 1B, and hopefully a pitcher who can regain some form. Maybe the Nats need to throw in some money to entice the Astros, but if not then I think this is pretty square.
jjd002
Lol. That’s isn’t close and Houston isn’t trading Yuli. He will become a bench player when they upgrade the position.
baseballfan90
That’s why the Astros need to take Corbin and his contract in this deal. Otherwise you’re right, this could be viewed as kinda lopsided.
vtadave
kinda?
baseballfan90
Well really if you factor in that since the Nats beat these guys in the World Series three years ago, this isn’t lopsided at all.
Kckidd96
Corbin and Bell might get Urquidy alone,MAYBE. No way in hell that offer gets them anywhere close to Soto
baseballfan90
Maybe some cash considerations can be thrown in because this gets them really close at worst.
Kckidd96
Not close at all really
baseballfan90
We’ll have to agree to disagree then
Thomas E Snyder
Nats GM said he wasn’t doing a salary dump with any trades.
baseballfan90
He says that now but if the Astros are willing to send over Urquidy and Yuli (heck maybe even Siri now too according to reports), I think Rizzo will have a change of heart. I’ve said too in other posts that the Nats may need to send some money to Houston to facilitate this deal. Not sure if that last part will happen.
noquarter89
You’re trolling right? Please tell me this is satire.
noquarter89
Let’s start with the obvious:
1. Why are you involving Yuli in the deal? He’s 38, has an expiring contract, and is severely declining. He has absolutely no trade value to a rebuilding club. Furthermore he’s a fixture in the Astros clubhouse, he’s not expensive, he’s still good defensively and on the basepaths, and he can play a lot of positions. He would be plenty useful to the Astros in a bench role, they have no reason to get rid of him.
2. Urquidy is a No. 3 starter at best and he has 3 years left of control after this season. He’ll be an attractive piece to a team nearing the end of its rebuild or another contender, but he’s not a centerpiece in a deal for a star with a team going into full on demolition mode.
3. We are talking about Juan Soto right? One of the youngest stars in the game, already on a hall of fame career trajectory? With 2 years of control left after this season? You’re going to have to do WAY WAY WAY better than a No. 3 starter, a defense-first centerfielder, a first baseman who can’t hit anymore, and salary relief.
4. If the Nationals are willing to take less for Soto in order to get rid of Corbin, why are they still kicking in money for him? That makes no sense.
5. You can forget you even mentioned Strasburg, he has a full no trade clause, a massive contract with many remaining years, and a severe recent injury history. He’s not on the table for the Astros.
So please tell me you were joking. If we were talking Urquidy straight up for Josh Bell, it would be an overpay on the Astros part but not entirely outlandish. Siri for Bell and Corbin with the Astros taking on all of Corbin’s contract? That’s plausible but unlikely. But there is absolutely no scenario in which the Astros acquire Soto without giving up at least 5 or 6 prospects including Hunter Brown and also taking Corbin. Let’s file that under “highly unlikely.” So again, please, tell me you’re joking.
boknows
This is maybe the worst trade proposal (from someone that was serious) I have ever seen in my entire life. You should ask the angels to join via three way trade to send you Ohtani and you can send them back Aledmys Diaz and Korey Lee. (And in case you weren’t sure because I’m actually worried…. That last part was sarcasm)
baseballfan90
Yea I was going to say no way the Angels move Ohtani. Honestly they’re one pitcher away from competing so moving Ohtani would make zero sense. This year is a wash for the Angels but next year when they trade for a pitcher (say Corbin Burnes for example) they could very well win the AL West.
Justanotherstrosfan
As has been the case since 2017, the path to the AL West will have to go through Hou. Odorizzi will probably be gone, I think Verlander will just redo his contract for a few years at a higher AAV and retire in Houston. He loves pitching here and he doesn’t strike me as a guy that’s a hired gun ready to fire away for whatever team is willing to pay him the most. The rest of our staff, including almost our entire bullpen is locked in through 2024. The Angels kept saying they were one pitcher away for the last few seasons and haven’t made the playoffs yet. I don’t see the Astros trading Valdez, or Garcia. To my eye test Odorizzi, Urquidy, will go even before Javier does. It wasn’t that long ago that we were wondering if they would just DFA Jake. He really hasn’t been to pleased with the way Dusty has managed him the last two seasons. Not to mention, his time in Houston hasn’t exactly been lights out like Cole and Verlander.
baseballfan90
I’ll say this that even if the Angels acquire Corbin Burnes this offseason, the Astros will still be favorites to win the West next year, albeit slightly. Even if the division is out of reach the Angels can lock up a wildcard spot next year if they can pull that trade off.
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
The days of the AL West going through Houston are ending either this year or next. I know the Mariners are 10 games back, but Seattle didn’t just get swept by the worst team in baseball either. The Mariners have so many pieces that they have a full lineup right now and have played almost the whole season without their starting catcher (Murphy), RF (Haniger), DH (Lewis), high-leverage arm (Sadler) and have had to deal with a series of smaller injuries and suspensions to their LF (Winker), SS (Crawford), 1B (France), CF (Rodriguez). They have also had to deal with inning limits to two key pitchers (Brash) and (Kirby). They have then had guys like Trammell come up and hit, only to pull a hamstring. Winker, Frazier, Kelenic, and Torrens have underperformed in 2022. The Mariners are scary deep throughout their roster, they just need another more stable bat, and a couple arms. Look at the farm system and know that as close in talent as the Astros are to the Mariners, only Seattle has the prospects and players to trade for Juan Soto, if they want to get him.
The Astros know they are in trouble and would not have swept the Mariners in Seattle had Julio been healthy enough to play all games and would have probably swept the Astros had they had Julio and the Astros been without Alvarez for all three games. This just shows you how close they are in terms of talent. The difference is the farm system. I think Houston is worried and for that reason they are trying to find a way to get Juan Soto. My guess is they are trying to dump extra starting pitchers, so they can get young controllable players they can flip for Juan Soto. My guess is they asked Rizzo what he wanted and it was a simple, “you don’t have the right pieces for a deal to work.” The problem is the Astros don’t want to trade Tucker or Alvarez and without either of those pieces (not that I would trade either of those guys), the only thing they could offer is a boatload of pitchers. The Nationals want position players and the only guy besides Alvarez and Tucker who is the right age and good enough to be included is Jake Meyers.
Their only good prospect is Hunter Brown, a starter. My guess is they would have to trade Hunter Brown, Luis Garcia, Jake Meyers, Dubon, and then trade Valdez for the remaining bats. A possible trade might be Valdez and McCormick to Baltimore for Cowser, Kjerstad, Mayo, and Mullins. Mullins takes over as their regular CF, Kjerstad goes to their farm to keep developing. Cowser and Mayo get flipped to the Nationals with Brown, Garcia, Dubon, and Meyers for Juan Soto and Josh Bell. Ending up with Mullins, Soto, and Bell to replace Gurriel, Brantley and Meyer/Dubon/McCormick.
baseballfan90
With all due respect to the Mariners, they need to show me they can make the playoffs first before I consider them a contender.
Kckidd96
Baltimore would never give up that much
bass86
Nope… Not taking on any garbage contracts. They don’t have room for that. You’ll have to find another trade partner for that guy
baseballfan90
If the Nats include $20M in the deal too to acquire Urquidy, Yuli, and now that he’s available Siri, then the Astros may be willing to take Corbin’s contract.
DarkSide830
They should deal Odo (redundant) and McCullers (always injured).
Rsox
Urquidy for Contreras?
I guess the question for the Astros is do they think they need a First Baseman or an Outfielder. Theoretically acquiring Bell gives them the flexibility to play Alvarez in LF with Bell/Gurriel at 1B or DH, Bell can also play some LF so that could add to his value for the Astros
rememberthecoop
I’d do that in a heartbeat if I’m the Cubs. A controllable starter with MLB success for a rental? Thank-you sir, may I have another?
itsgonnahappen
Exactly why the Astros wouldn’t do this. Contreras won’t take starting catcher away from Maldonado, so what exactly are you trading for? Give up a solid 4th SP for a rental bench bat? C’mon
Doug Anderson
Ummm, Contreras is widely viewed as one of the top few catchers in baseball. Glad you like Maldonado there’s no one in baseball who starts Maldonado over Contreras.
Samuel
The Astros do (as well as some other pitching-based teams) – especially in the playoffs.
Astrosfn1979
I as well as 99% of Astro fans agree with you
However you obviously have not been paying attention to the Astros ( understandable – I pay little attention to most teams)
The organization is on record as stating Maldonado ( 0.0bWAR, 0.2fWAR) was their team MVP last season.
This organization views catching as part of the pitching staff, not part of the lineup.
And they view intangibles WAY more than stats even defensive stats.
I guarantee you Maldonado still starts 75+% of games and 95% of playoff games even with Contreras which is why they won’t trade for him.
Astros Hot Takes
Doug
You.
Are wrong.
Astros Hot Takes
Why do you and theoretically 99% of Astros fans not appreciate what ACTUALLY contributes to winning all the time, preferring instead paper stats that are not contributing to winning?
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
Read my other post, but pieces to acquire Soto. Their farm doesn’t have the pieces and aside from Tucker and Alvarez, there is nothing on the roster that has the value and appropriate age needed to get the Nationals interested.
Astrosfn1979
In my opinion, EVERY catcher who is good enough to make it to MLB brings at least a basic level of value in many different aspects of the game.
I personally feel that the aspects that Maldonado excel at do NOT outweigh the ones he is terrible at since any MLB catcher will provide at least passable results in those but with a potentially much greater hitting contribution.
The Astros don’t agree with me and that’s fine. I have accepted that.
Texas Outlaw
Nate Lowe straight up for Urquidy.
Mario93
They are 30 games over .500 why deal from a place of depth and strength. Never know when injuries may hit. As well who will be in form for the postseason and who won’t.
northsidecrossrifles
Its fairly simple. If your goal is to improve the weak spots on your roster for a potentially deep playoff run, you deal from a position of depth and strength to shore up those weaknesses. It can be argued that their SP depth shouldn’t be tampered with, but they have enough of it and a relatively thin minor league system that it may be their most asset effective way to turn weaknesses into strengths, or at least into areas that can’t be exploited come October.
Samuel
It’s simpler than that, and funny as well…….
Word that Cleveland is doing that as well. Why?
Because those teams and their coaches know how to get the most out of pitchers. So they sell a team a developed pitcher. Team cuts some of their non-producing pitchers and pitches the developed ones. But…..then the developed ones need tuning, and the teams that couldn’t develop pitchers have no idea how to straighten them out. Meanwhile…..Cleveland and Houston check the waiver wire to see who the buying teams cut, and if they feel their coaching staff can fix them they pick up those rejects and they wind up pitching better then the pitchers the team that gave up on them trade good player for.
LOL
Baltimore built one of the best bullpens in MLB this year primarily from guys they picked up on the waiver wire.
wald0
speaking of Baltimore Mancini and Santander for Urquidy
C Yards Jeff
@Wald0; Interesting. I know article says Stros are looking for a CF and Mullins is mentioned, but Santander is a sneaky defender plus a switch hitter and Mancini a reliable bat that can DH, play a corner and 1b. Nice pieces for a contender to have around in September. I think the Orioles would jump on that deal! And moving Santander gives the Birds an opportunity to see what they have in a guy like Stowers(sp?) and others.
SamtheMan!
I wouldn’t give up Santander and Mancini for Urquidy. Nor do I think the stros need 2 bats.
C Yards Jeff
Jbigz44; agree to disagree on this one? Love his ERA, WS winning pitcher, still relatively young (27). Also got TJ surgery out of the way years back and Elias is familiar with him.
Actually, I’m finding it hard to believe he is available. Am I missing something here?
Also, and I could be wrong on this, they are looking for DH + OF help … so a couple of bats? Cheers!
knolln
Depth gets you where the astros want to go. It’s about 1-2-3 and 1-9 now and that’s worth trading depth for for the astros right now. Good, long, extended window now. But it’s sure going to get expensive. Time to hang banners.
Alec Kinnear
Definitely need to keep some depth. There are always injuries. That said, everyone is available for the right price.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Urquidy could be included in a deal for Contreras from Chicago. Chicago would probably need to kick in another prospect or player as getting Urquidy’s 3 years of control is probably an overpay for 2 months of Contreras but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is used to get either the catcher or first base upgrade that Houston is searching for.
northsidecrossrifles
Its more likely Chicago throws in another desirable asset on an expiring deal than a prospect. Unless its a post hype guy in AAA. Though I doubt that type of player has enough appeal to Houston as a secondary piece.
jjd002
Any good relievers up there in Chicago to include?
northsidecrossrifles
Robertson, Martin, Givens. All have expiring deals, with different appeal. They shouldn’t cost a ton, granted its a sellers market so there may be an unexpected return for one of the 3, most likely Robertson.
JimmyForum
How about just saying all teams willing to listening on everything.
nottinghamforest13
It’s like when you ask someone in fantasy baseball if they’re willing to discuss XYZ player and they reply “For the right price.” Naturally. I didn’t presume he’d be available for the wrong price.
sources
Urquidy to the Sox for Christian Vázquez makes a lot of sense for both teams. Vázquez has been playing some 1b this year, too.
Ancient Pistol
Why would the Astros do this? You need pitching in the playoffs and you never know when a pitcher will get hurt. JV is almost 40. He could blowout his arm for good during his next start.
clubber_lang84
Keep Urquidy and trade Odorizzi for a back up catcher. That’s all that needs to happen for the Astros
Astrosfn1979
The Astros are currently playing 3 starters with OPS under 700 including their 1B.
The Astros need more than a backup catcher.
clubber_lang84
Yuli has come on as of late and Bergman typically shows up in the playoffs. I wouldn’t mess with the chemistry. Odorizzi is hot garbage
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
The Astros just got swept by the Athletics and won’t disclose to the media what is going on with Mickey Brantley, I mean Mike. They are not a perfect team yet.
clubber_lang84
Last week they swept the Yankees and Mariners. That’s baseball. Yes they could be better, but I firmly believe chemistry is a big reason why the Astros continue to destroy the American League in October.
Samuel
Ignorant Son-of-a-b;
Please name a perfect MLB team…..not just this year, but any year.
positively_broad_st
MLBTR hasn’t posted the bad news on Trout yet. This is the top story of the day…
Alkie
Team That Can’t Make Playoffs to Continue Not Making Playoffs
Better?
positively_broad_st
Generational talent whose career may be in jeopardy. The man deserves respect even if he doesn’t play for your favorite team…
TheOpener
In just 2.5 years, Trout has transitioned from a player who would ensure a massive return in a trade to a player who might not be picked up even if he was given away. Should have been traded before the 2020 season at the latest (the last season he was solidly in his late 20s).
Astrosfn1979
The Astros are in an enviable position with starting pitching.
As of now they have:
McCullers – 2026
Luis Garcia – 2026
Framber Valdez – 2025
Cristian Javier – 2025
Jose Urquidy – 2025
Hunter Brown has not made MLB debut yet.
The owner is on record as wanting to keep Justin Verlander an Astro as long as he wants to keep pitching so expect him to be extended or resigned for 2023+
jjd002
I think McCullers, Verlander, and Valdez are the only people that could safely put a down payment down on a house in Houston.
Astrosfn1979
I’m pretty sure McCullers and Verlander don’t need to worry about mortgages lol
thickiedon
What does that even mean? Houston is probably one of the cheapest areas to live in the country
Samuel
LOL
Houston is tremendously expensive.
I have a friend sold his house there and moved to outside of Nashville (not exactly a cheap place to live). Oh, they have no state income tax in Texas. But the property taxes on his house were higher than his mortgage. His wife wanted to get out as well.
Nhworley
He means they’re the only ones that can bet on staying in Houston long-term
hyraxwithaflamethrower
@Samuel. I live in Houston. No it’s not. We bought our house a couple years ago for $225K. 2k sq ft, big backyard, great neighborhood, relatively close to work. There are areas that are pricier, sure, and the market has gone up since, but it’s still very cheap as far as major cities go.
And as Nhworley said, you missed the point.
statefarm44
Contreras for Valdes … yes please
LordD99
All teams are open to trading controllable starting pitching. Just depends on the return!
Stros18
Most of the people on this thread don’t seem to understand just how talented/valuable Urquidy, Garcia and Javier are. No way they trade Framber unless a guy named J. Soto is coming to Houston. None of their starters outside of Odorizzi, who no one will want, is being dealt for a rental. They must be fishing for a big name. Click has said he wants to keep Houston at the top for as long as possible. Every guy outside of Odor is a #2 or #3 on a mid to sub par team, they’re still very young and they aren’t up for free agency for at least 2 1/2 years or longer. On top of everything I’ve just stated, they’re also extremely inexpensive.
thickiedon
Precisely
C Yards Jeff
Bummer. Deep SP throughout their system. Here’s Elias in Baltimore looking for just that but from the looks of it doesn’t have to offer what the Astros are looking for? True, the Stros may want Mancini but Mancini alone probably doesn’t get the Birds an SP in Houston’s top 50?
Pedro 4 Delino
Red Sox, Cubs, Nats, or A’s if they deal Murphy could match up with Houston, Miami and Guardians.
TheOpener
Trout likely out for the rest of the season, or at least a lot of it.
Jack Buckley
I haven’t heard the name Forest Whitley in some time, former top prospect that’s 6/11 and throws 99 and sucks
J leathal86
Santander for uquirdy straight up helps both clubs
thickiedon
Nope
holecamels35
I don’t understand how their team keeps churning out an endless supply of young talent. It’s also funny because you hardly ever see them in the top 5 of these vaunted farm system lists yet the majority of their guys perform so well A logjam of great cheap pitchers and replacing an all star shortstop with another is very impressive.
Then you have teams like my Pirates who can’t seem to hit on anything. Just about everyone is inconsistent and never works out or is let go to have success elsewhere.
noquarter89
The Astros would only consider trading any of these guys for another player with remaining control. No way they trade one of them for a rental. I could see Urquidy or Garcia being the centerpiece of a Castillo or Bryan Reynolds trade, with other prospects involved. I think it would also serve them to find another contender in need of a starter and offer Odorizzi for pieces that could help them acquire Josh Bell or Contreras.
dman07
Blue Jays
thickiedon
After a brief return to action, Whitley has been shut down with right shoulder inflammation since July 10. I seriously doubt any team looking to swap with Astros views Whitley as a trade piece.
abc123baseball
I could see the Mariners or Cardinals putting together packages centering around Kyle Lewis or Harrison Bader but both of those situations are at least somewhat dependent on what happens with Soto.
Darthyen
Danny Jansen in Toronto should be available. He improved his defense a little on his last trip through the minors BUT his pitch framing and game calling still draw negative marks according to Baseball Prospectus. Still he hits with some power at times as he tends to be streaky.
For Toronto moving Jansen should allow Kirk to catch more as he is a better defender and his game calling and pitch framing draw favorable marks and we all know what he can do with a bat. Plus moving Jansen allows Moreno to come back to the majors.
smuzqwpdmx
The Jays don’t want Kirk catching too much because of his weight, it seems… they believe that if he catches more than a couple games a week then they can’t DH him the other days and have to lose his bat entirely too often. Moreno’s .593 OPS in the majors and power outage in AAA means it’d be a significant risk to the lineup to have him be the main catcher down the stretch this year. So I think Jansen is less likely to be moved than I would’ve said a month or two ago… or rather, he may not be moved until the offseason.
Fade
Cleveland Guardians could be be a match. Astros poached their best pitching coach in the off season. Not ironically Cleveland pitching has gone from great to okay. They are in need for pitching for once if you look at the numbers.
Bo Naylor has been hitting the ball hard in AA and AAA this year. As fun as it would be to see him on the same team as his brother Josh Naylor, it would make sense.
Astrosfn1979
Astros are only interested in established MLB players not prospects.
Fade
I get that, but not sure there are any great catchers that can hit in the league that won’t cost a premium. There are very few that have an okay wrc. Obviously there are other trades that could be made but I thought I’d offer one that could benefit both sides.
CaptainHooks
I could see returning Gilberto Celestino to the Astros for Jose Urquidy. Celestino is a STAR in the making blocked by the oft-injured Byron Buxton at Centerfield. It would be a BIG RISK for the Twins to trust on the health of Buxton for a middle of the rotation starter with three more years of team control like Urquidy, but it would open the door for Celestino’s budding STAR career, and would help the Twins with their desperate rotation needs.
touch_the_floor
Does anyone think the pirates and Astros would match up on a trade: B Reynolds for H Brown and F Whitley??
Would that be too much going to either team? Hard to give up 2 high level pitching prospects but also BR has years of control left.