The Padres are set to select the contract of outfielder Nomar Mazara, tweets Robert Murray of FanSided. The former Rangers top prospect-turned-journeyman inked a minor league pact with San Diego over the winter. The move comes in conjunction with the “imminent” release of floundering second baseman/designated hitter Robinson Cano, per Dennis Lin of The Athletic (Twitter link). Murray and Jon Heyman of the New York Post reported last night that Cano was likely to opt for free agency after declining to be optioned to Triple-A (as any player with five-plus years of Major League service can do). Whether he’ll be formally released or elect free agency is largely a moot point; the outcome is the same.
Mazara, now 27 years old, never developed into the perennial power-hitting threat many anticipated when he was a consensus top-100 prospect in 2015-16. He showed plenty of promise when he swatted 20 home runs as a 21-year-old rookie with the Rangers in 2016, but Mazara was essentially a league-average hitter with below-average offense for the first four years of his career in Texas.
A trade to the White Sox produced dismal results, as he hit just .228/.295/.294 in 42 games with Chicago the following season. Mazara signed with the Tigers after being non-tendered by the Sox, but he hit just .212/.276/.321 in 50 games with Detroit last season.
All in all, Mazara has been about 12% worse than league-average with the bat in his big league career, by measure of wRC+, but he’s having a monster season in Triple-A. Through his first 152 plate appearances this season, Mazara is hitting .367/.454/.641 with seven homers, 14 doubles, a huge 13.8% walk rate and a lower-than-average 19.1% strikeout rate.
Cano’s time with the Padres will prove to be brief, as he only signed with San Diego on May 13. However, the Padres’ hopes that the eight-time All-Star could right the ship following a .195/.233/.268 showing with the Mets didn’t pan out. Quite the opposite, in fact, as Cano turned in a calamitous .091/.118/.091 output in 34 plate appearances. Overall, Cano has gone 3-for-33 (all singles) with one walk and 10 strikeouts in a Padres uniform.
The swan dive in Cano’s production comes on the heels of a season-long absence in 2021 due to the second positive PED test of his 17-year Major League career. Given that context and the fact that he’ll turn 40 in October, it’s perhaps not much of a surprise that Cano has struggled in 2022, although the extent of his woes at the plate are nonetheless jarring.
Once Cano becomes a free agent, he’ll be free to sign with any club that has interest, though it’s difficult to fathom another team putting him directly on the big league roster. Should Cano wish to continue playing, he’d likely have to ink a minor league deal, but his apparent refusal to accept an assignment to Triple-A El Paso with the Padres calls into question whether he’ll be willing to go that route. The Mets still owe Cano $21.25MM for the 2023 season, while the Mariners (who originally signed him a decade-long, $240MM contract prior to the 2014 season) are kicking in $3.75MM as part of the trade that shipped him from Seattle to Queens.
Even his bad stats are about the padres avg offensive stats this year. Maybe he can put it together if not then he’ll be shipped out.
He’s still young and there’s talent. Can’t be worse than Cano.
Yes, Nomar is worse. Wait until you see how he loses games. Defense, on the base path, double plays, many more.
I dunno, double play implies that he puts the ball into play.
.091 If he is worse than that as a bench player, then he will be back in the minors quickly.
He’s terrible but every team needs a last man on the bench.
Not sure how this is an upgrade
.091/.118/.091.
Don’t overthink it.
Same thought. Must sting a bit for Cano. It’s one thing to be released, but for Mazara to take your place isn’t a good sign imo
.209 OPS. If Nomar Mazara hits as good as the average National League pitcher from last season (.285 OPS), he’ll be significantly better than Cano.
It’s not necessarily an upgrade. They play different positions. Both are basically expendable band aids.
Absolutely an upgrade. Can’t get much worse than .091/.118/.091.that Cano put up.
Bat off the bench is a different position?
Obviously an upgrade over what Cano actually did but the talent level is comparable. Cano’s stats are from a very small sample size. His stats would be similar to Mazara’s with more playing time. Can’t judge a player entirely on one month of hitting.
The Padres obviously did judge Cano on a month of hitting. It was that bad.
Ok Nostradamus.
Cano hit .149/.182/.189/.371 for a 9 OPS+ for the season and his bat speed has declined since his first game with the Mets this season. YOU would be an improvement with the bat.
In his WORST season ever Mazara hit .212/.276/.321/.597 for a 66 OPS+. Terrible, but immensely better than Cano.
Mazara has totally reworked his swing and approach at the plate starting over the offseason, in spring training, and has worked on it in El Paso.
That work is paying off as he is hitting .367/.454/.641/1.095 for a 166 OPS+ in AAA. He has been even hotter the last two weeks.
Do I believe that will make him a plus offensive player? No. But Cano was never again going to be even a serviceable player. Mazara is an upgrade.
So please. Stop
You can’t judge Cano based on that small sample size. Mazara isn’t good, he’s NOT much better than Mazara, which was my original point which I stand by. You are an obnoxious worm who can’t disagree like an adult but rather you have to throw out unnecessary insults. You’re a fool, you argue foolishly and I’m done with you. I’m assuming you liked your own post cuz no one else is that dumb. You don’t seem to have a very good rep around here anyway and I can see why.
People that get paid to judge him did. On TWO teams. Guess you CAN judge Cano based on a small sample size. There is a reason you are on a baseball board and they have jobs in baseball. You are probably not old enough to have a job yet based on your level of repartee.
Mazara now has two more hits in 5 games than Cano had in 13 with the Padres.
What does “Mazara isn’t good, he’s NOT much better than Mazara” mean?
Cano was judged by not one, but two different GMs on small sample sizes. His bat speed was WAY down. His barrel rate was down nearly 50%.. EVERY metric that mattered showed he was done. Preller took a chance on him but quickly pulled the plug because he could see that nothing was changing. That you don’t understand baseball is not on them.
They were proven correct. Mazara has more hits, TB, RBI in 5 games than Cano had in 13 as a Padre.
May be spend more time learning about baseball than trying to insult others. “You are an obnoxious worm” and “You’re a fool, you argue foolishly” is an indication that even you know you are full of it.
Not expecting much with Mazara, but it would be nice if for once a bat exceeded expectations – the Pads’ offense needs a spark.
Should be an interesting series with my Brewers who also are struggling offensively. Look forward to some pitching duels!
Best luck to you guys! I think the Pads would be overjoyed to get a 2-2 split in Milw.
With the Padres offense and relief pitching in shambles, its not likely they get a 2-2 split. Maybe one win in 4 games.
Nah, they will get at least 2
It would be nice if he could be even MLB average.
The Angels 4th OF was Jose Rojas to start the season and now its Lagares, so it could be worse for the Padres.
I left my Heart in San Diego!!!
…..and my steroids in NY.
So cano was only a good hitter when he was using PEDs ?
Correct
…and younger.
Which puts him in the HOF if he has a cute nickname like “Big Cani”
My nicknames for Cano has always been Can Opener.
@HalosHeavenJJ
Liking your comment just once doesn’t seem to be enough. You couldn’t be more on point if you tried.
thanks
That got a big laugh out of me. There could certainly be truth in that. He might have gotten the cute nickname with a boisterous, Big Papi type personality.
Difference is, since 2004 when testing was implemented, Cano has tested positive for steroids and Big Papi never did.
Leaving one project for another eh
How can one be a league average hitter while being below average offensively?
He was roughly league-average with the Rangers (a bit below, but not much) and vastly below average in Chicago and Detroit. Overall, combining those three stops, he’s been about 12% worse when weighting for home park and league.
I think they meant defensively. He’s not going to win a gold glove.
The story says “ a league-average hitter with below-average offense”
Yeah, that is awkward phrasing. This may or may not apply to Mazara, but a player could be perfectly average as a batter, but a bad baserunner, thus pulling his overall offense below average.
He gone. Can’t see a team, outside maybe the Marlins, giving him a shot. He should take three weeks and do some Keto dieting and then sign a ML deal and agree to a stint in the minors before coming back up. Cano looks out of shape.
He can rebound, if he wants. I don’t think he does, seems more risky he’ll lose money if he tests positive for PED again as opposed to getting paid this year and next for being a couch potato. Legacy vs laziness? His legacy is gone, I expect laziness; though I’d love to be proven wrong.
His Mets and Mariners money is secure. Nothing he could do to lose that. The only money that’s at risk if he gets strike 3 on PED”s is his signing salary, which will inevitably be league minimum. Honestly, he looked slow and sub-par defensively and offensively. A team could tolerate him as a reserve, with one or the other asset, but absent speed, defense, hitting (AVG), and power, what is there left?
If he really wants to remain in baseball, a coaching position is what he should be shooting for.
@OldSalt – I don’t believe that is true. If he fails another drug test, I’m quite sure that both NY & SEA won’t need to pay him even though they released him. I could be wrong but I believe that is the case.
Pretty sure he still gets paid. Once you’re released, the money becomes immune from fines (which are actually pay being docked). I’m not 100% on this but I think his money is safe.
He doesn’t get paid if he fails another drug test. He loses his money
Not true. He lost his salary last year. A third strike would wipe out the remainder of his contract even if he were able to apply for reinstatement after two years.
He had a year off to get into shape. Additional time won’t help.
Cano is just a lazy ballplayer that got by on steroids. I’m sure there was talent there as well but it’s hard to know how much was steroids vs. actual talent. And he already got caught twice so I’m guessing he’s not the brightest bulb in the shed either
@oldsalt
He would fit right in as an ESPN analyst, too. Their drug test doesn’t include PEDs, obviously. You don’t even have to speak clear English.
Sounds a bit racist.
*fluent English. If you’re going to insult someone’s ability to speak English, at least use the correct term.
What part? Pointing out true things can be racist or racially motivated but with what was said it seems like a big leap to get to racist. Have you seen people on ESPN as analyst who(m) people might find difficult to understand?
Yeah, it is racist that you believe only minorities speak English poorly.
I don’t think mazara will be a world beater but he seems to have made some actual changes and lowered his ground ball rate. If he can be like a league average bat who hits 12 homers the rest of the season (18-20 pace) that would be an upgrade for the padres
I hope Mazara isn’t a rest of season solution but they need a hot bat now, and he’s been that in the minors. Other than maybe Esteury Ruiz, he’s the only reasonable OF option they could promote at the moment.
This two time cheater needs to go and never come back.
There but for the grace of God go a lot of guys. He just got caught.
Twice. In 3 years. Either he is epically stupid or he knew he couldn’t compete without them anymore.
Everyone is baseball cheats. EVERYONE now put your big boy pants on and get over it. Baseball = cheating!
Everyone except the 99.87% of hitters that don’t. Cheating = cheating. Baseball = baseball. A few hitters cheat. Cano was one of them.
hello proof?
If you are talking to me Dark here are the facts. Since 2005, 53 position players have been suspended for PED out of 4071 players that have taken the field in an MLB game. 99.87% did not cheat.
I think players (especially in their late thirties) should be allowed steroids. Aging is a disease a way to treat that disease is with peds. Honestly all it would take is a couple rule changes and we could have spider tack and peds. Football players live an extremely short life compared to the average person despite not having many of the same issues as normal people, (not being idle, not working a job where they sit everyday, running, swimming) it’s not the peds making them die in their forties, so why not allow them.
Many PEDs are incredibly harmful to the body.
Yes. Yes it is the PED that are killing them early. PED cause seerious health issues. Along with the CTE in NFL players.
PED doesn’t cause CTE.
I meant that CTE was killing NFL players early also.
A former PED user and a former yankee. Yes please. GTFOOH. ASAP.
Intelligent. Relevant. Both labels apply.
Only if his pinch hit today had been a home run he would have bought a couple more games…
How this guy ages 1 year every 7 years is beyond me. I said this is gonna be the year 12 times and then forgot about him for 10 years so he’s been in the game at least those 22 years now.
Is this the year? And is this the time aj staking his reputation to the ‘I swear these guys are good’ rangers pays off? Ask me in 20 years when Nomar is 29 and still has potential
If he tests positive again he’s banned from baseball correct ?
@joe. I believe 3 strikes and your out of MLB was the rule but Juerys Familia already tested that back in 2017 and he’s still employed in MLB. It seems only Pete Rose has paid the ultimate price for cheating in MLB in recent history and further out the “Black Sox scandal players”.
Jenrry Mejia, not Familia
Manbitesdog is correct it was Jennry Mejia who received a lifetime ban than Manfraud reinstated him back in 2019. So much for setting a hardline for cheating and sticking too it.
It didn’t really work for Mejia though since he couldn’t hold a roster spot in the majors. I believe he’s playing in Mexico now.
Rose never cheated. He bet on his team to win games. It’s a complete joke the all time hits leader is banned for having faith in his team
That’s if you believe habitual liar Rose only bet to win.
Even if that’s the case, there were still plenty of games he didn’t bet. Do you really believe a guy who owed the mob big coin was managing all those games to win, too?
A Cincy writer looked at his pitching strategies over a month, and they were drastically different in games he’d bet vs those he hadn’t.
Rose deserves to be banned. I’m not a fan of roiders, but there’s no appearance of them throwing games.
Rose changed his story several times.
I never place any illegal bet on any sporting event.
I never bet on baseball. He claimed this after accepting a place on the permanently ineligible list.
I bet on baseball, but never on the Reds.
I bet on the Reds, but never to lose.
Let’s say his final story is the truth and he ONLY bet on the Reds to win. I don’t know why you’d choose to believe him given his proven record of lying, but so be it. Don’t you think that might compromise his decisions? Bullpen’s gassed, so what, baby needs a new pair of shoes. Star player feels a twinge in his hamstring during pregame, get out there, I need cash for the horse races this weekend.
If “lowering your team’s chances to have a successful season in favor of winning a specific game or games” isn’t technically cheating, it’s a first cousin.
The games Rose did not bet on his team to win he was betting on them to lose via proxy.
As a gambler, would have loved to have insider info like Rose did.
With MLB partnering with several sports gambling sites and running a daily sports gambling advice show on MLB.TV, I don’t know how they can still keep Pete Rose out of the HOF.
Once Rose started betting on games, did he bet on every game his team played? If not, he hasn’t exhibited faith in his team, just some of the time. Why some games and not others? Was he tipping his hand that he was not trying to win those games or even trying to throw those games? Rose never demonstrated high moral standards so it is easy to be suspicious of his intent and behavior when he engaged in prohibited activities. I really don’t care if he or anyone else is in the HOF or not.
Legally, MLB isn’t keeping Rose out.
The HOF rules, maintained by the HOF itself, say that players on MLB’s ineligible list cannot be elected.
MLB could take him off it’s ineligible list. I don’t know how the time gates / vote thresholds would work in that case.
Well I’ll start saying no one gives a damn about the HoF. Oh the hall of fame makes your autograph worth more…. yea I think roses designation of being excluded from the hof makes his autograph worth way more than being in the hof.
That said, why do you think he had this grand scheme going in his head on a daily basis? Some days he said eff it, some days he didn’t. That’s someone I can relate to anyway. I doubt Pete was some mastermind.
I believe they’ve said Rose, or any other player excluded by being on the ineligible list, would go right into the veterans committee system.if their initial 15 years (5 years waiting, 10 years for the writers) is expired.
Rose’s problems run much deeper than just gambling’s (not to mention that there is a HUGE difference between legal gambling by fans and betting on your own sport where you have influence over outcomes. Huge.)
Because fans sitting at home aren’t throwing games like a debt ridden gambling addict.
Enter any clubhouse in baseball. What is the one and only rule that is exhibited in every single one of them? No gambling on baseball. Rose broke that rule. Lied about it. Then AGREED to a lifetime ban. He agreed to that lifetime ban so that all the evidence against him would not be publicly released That says to me that there is more to it than betting on his team to win.
Bonds too. His final year slash line in ’07 was ..276/480/.565/169 OPS+ .
Mejia was one of only four living people to be permanently banned by MLB, the others being Pete Rose in 1990, and Chris Correa and John Coppolella in 2017. Correa and Coppolella were FO personnel.
8 members of the 1919 White Sox were permanently banned with Shoeless Joe Jackson being the one most recognized.
Guys like Mazara, or Azocar or Alcántara, are trying out as role players. No one expects, and it highly unlikely that the Padres will catch lightening in a bottle with one of these signings. Power and hit tools for 2022 Padres will come from the guys already on the roster returning to their career norms (even if they are sub-par norms), than from AAA or trades.
There’s always a chance that Preller strikes a trade for a hitter, using a starter as currency (my guess would be Darvish, due to his age, his contract status, and salary). However, I’ve seen that “movie” before, and the guys that the Padres bring back, never live up to the career highs or even norms. (I could give you a half dozen quick examples, maybe a dozen if I spent 15 minutes researching). There ARE guys I wish Preller had not traded, e.g. Ty France for one, but that’s water over the bridge at this point. The Pads couldn’t keep ’em all, didn’t have roster space for all of them, and no matter who they traded away, some were going to shine elsewhere while some returns (.e.g. Clevinger, Nola) were going to disappoint. That’s the nature and risks of the pro baseball business.
I’m for sitting tight and keeping the cards the Padres have. No trades. The Pads pen will work itself out with returning players from injury, the starting rotation could easily implode due to injury histories, and Gore and Clev are innings limited anyhow. Strong starting pitching, an improved bullpen from internal sources, some return to norms for position players, and Tatis will get the offense to a point where the team is playoff qualified. After that, it’s a crap shoot anyhow.
Agree with most, said something similar in the other Cano thread. I can’t see trading Darvish, not only because we need all the SP we can get, but because any team who wants him for a playoff push isn’t likely to have a spare offensive stud lying around.
Regression to the mean works both ways, and the underperforming Padre hitters stand a reasonable chance at getting back to their career averages. That also means we should expect Profar and even Manny to fall off. It happened to Hosmer in May, we can only hope he rebounds to at least a decent level.
Fully expect Preller to go after a bat, and with his track record, we can’t say anything’s off the table. But it could range from this year’s Adam Frazier to Wilson Contreras to Bryan Reynolds and all points in between, no way of knowing.
I don’t see them parting with a SP until Morejon returns, and/or they shore up the middle relievers. Right now they need 7 SP to get deep into games to avoid the middle relievers who have lost 7 or 8 games already in the 7th and 8th innings. Darvish has been solid and going deep into games, he’s probably one of the horses they want in playoffs (assuming they get in).
Manaea and Clevinger are FAs next year, so they might consider trading one of those later in the season to an AL team with playoff aspirations. Or they’ll move Martinez. But I don’t think Preller finds a big bat unless he dips into prospects. Maybe Old Salt is right that they should hold pat and be patient with the existing line-up which receives Tatis soon. Maybe get a boost from a minors call-up. Campusano is waiting. Mazara, Beaty, Rooker, Azocar and Alcantara are all movable pieces.
Yeah, I’d hold onto the whole SP staff.
Martinez is no world-beater, but he’s a damn sight better than the zombies we used in the second half of 2021. Can’t see much of a trade market for him anyway, with that plainly stupid contract.
Landing a bat will take prospects, for sure. Picking the target won’t be easy either. Preller may only have the currency for one serious acquisition, you don’t want to replace a guy who was going to get better anyway. Even a clear offensive upgrade like Contreras, do you risk the rapport Nola and Alfaro have with the SP?
@Brew88 Why would they trade Manaea after they literally JUST traded for him????
And no one is trading for Martinez because of those opt-outs.
That Martinez contract looks like something a rookie agent would propose and (almost) any GM would then call the agency and say “Never send that joker here again.”
“So we’re thinking, 25.5M over 4 years guaranteed. He can leave after any season and you pay him 1.5M if he does.”
@harambe. Agree, and sorry to phrase it the way I did. It would be absurd and I don’t think they should/would trade Manaea or any of their 7 starters, and that’s basically what I said above. My mention of Clev, Martinez and Manaea was merely adding wild speculation (to Old Salt’s wild speculation of trading Darvish to acquire a bat) that if by some odd and desperate reason they were to trade a SP, who other than Darvish that might be.
If they wanted to trade a starter Manaea wouldn’t have been acquired to begin with. Trading for Manaea and then trading away one of the incumbent starters just feels like a weird lateral move.
Personally, I’d like to see next year’s opening day rotation be Musgrove (FA), Darvish, Manaea (FA), Gore and one other. Snell and Martinez contracts include 2023 season so they both are likely to be included. Clevinger is a FA and might not be that expensive unless he comes on strong rest of season. But then if he doesn’t, why sign him to a new contract? Maybe they can’t keep 2 of the 3 FAs, but I hope they can keep Manaea (expensive) and Musgrove (very expensive). It does seem as though someone’s gotta go and it might be more than Clev. Thoughts? .
More wild speculation here. If Pads lose 35 of their next 55 and by late July they are out of playoff contention, what SP do you think they might consider dangling for trade at deadline?
If they are out of contention then Musgrove (if he hasn’t signed an extension by that point), Clevinger and Manaea will go. I wouldn’t expect them to trade any of the others tho. Snell and Darvish because they would probably want to contend in 2023 and those guys will make that more likely and Martinez because the opt-outs after every season would make trading him next to impossible.
Trading Gore would fall into the “Eff no” category.
The reason I said “Darvish”, in a trade, was his salary. It’s a two step process. Move an “available” (don’t laugh) TOR starter, reduce salary, buy your high salaried hitter with a lessor prospects trade on a losing club. However, the market gets to speak, too. If the market speaks “Morejon” or “Abrams” repeatedly, with the right offer on the table, it’d be tough for Preller to ignore.
One thing the analysts and baseball writers constantly get wrong, though, is that Preller is somehow “constrained” by the Padres salary cap, vis-a-vis the luxury tax. Lol, I’m sure Preller doesn’t see his options constrained. He’s got good ball players to deal, major and minor leaguers, and he has owners who have demonstrated contempt for the luxury salary tax limits previously. In contrast to many naysayers (some here), Preller seems to be constantly thinking one step a head of the rest of MLB GM’s. He strikes out some, but he connects when it matters. It’s tough making a championship baseball team. Just ask the 29 GM’s who team didn’t win the World Series last year, or years before that, or the 2/3’s whose team did not make the playoffs. Not making excuses for Preller, but I think this will work out.
What Preller cannot work around is if Manny goes down for TJ surgery on his bad elbow, if two or three of those 7 starters go lame, and a couple more forget how to throw strikes. He can put ballplayers on the field, hire managers and coaches, put together one of the better overall baseball organizations in the MLB, but he can’t pitch, catch, or hit for the players.
Great post Old Salt! Stand down, keep the roster integrity “as is” and collect your internal reinforcements as they’re ready to check-in. Pitching and defense will win games/series. Do not force a trade just to force a trade. Tatis should be the sparkplug the offense needs and hopefully some roleplayers will produce some timely hitting along the way. If this is poker, then hold your cards close and check to the next guy.
The Padres are in the situation they are in offensively this season not because Tatis is out, but because the Padres were constrained by the CBT threshold. Otherwise they would have gone out and spent on one of the many top level bats available in FA to fill the gaping hole in their OF.
Here are the options they had to choose from.
mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/top-50-mlb-free-agent-r…
The CBT threshold has always been a talking point of “the Press.” Not signing an OFer wasn’t for lack of effort. I truly thought Seiya was signing here but it’s a stark reminder that it takes two yo tango.
Padres never made an offer to Bryant, Castellanos, Schwarber, Marte, or any other OF on that list of Top FA other than Suzuki. So it was for lack of effort.
Putting all your eggs in one basket is not a great strategy and we are seeing the results now. The Padres OF are hitting a combined .202/.288/.315/.602
In defense of SD, I think they did make an initial play at Bryant but were blown out of the water. Add Winker to the list of FA OFers, he’s hitting 209, which is better than Bryant who isn’t playing at all. Schwarber is batting sub 200. Casty has been meh. Marte would have been nice but for the price? Risky business signing FAs! With top prospects Hassell III and Wood (and CF CJ Abrams) coming on soon, and the assumption that Grisham and Myers would play to career averages until the kids arrive, They didn’t need to make big splash, I thought Soler would have been a nice addition though.
As Brew mentioned, our future OF would seem to be in place, per se. Overspending for a player that you don’t need and/or want would be frivolous and unwise. I believe MGMT narrowed it down to Seiya and if he didn’t sign then the contingency plan to play Profar everyday was one they felt comfortable doing. Avisail, Schwarbs, KB, Castellanos, Soler, et al. are all underperforming AND overpaid. Some even had QOs attached. I’m glad we didn’t dip our toes into that FA pool, personally. Let’s see what Mazara brings but it is far too soon to be waving any white flags. The Pads will be fine, especially if Junior takes over RF and we kick Wil back to his best position in LF. Just my 2 pesos.
According to both Bryant and Acee of the U/T, the Padres never made him an offer. That doesn’t mean they didn’t have discussions with him. I would bet they at least talked to everyone they felt would be a fit.
Castellanos has a 111 OPS+. That would look mighty nice as offensive production from LF right now
Hassell is in A+ ball. Up in 2024 maybe? Wood a year behind that. Abrams should rally stay at SS, but he is not exactly tearing up AAA right now Risky business counting on prospects to save your bacon.
Grisham has been in serious decline since June of last season, so that is something Preller should have taken into account.
Myers has been hurt most of the season, but you are right that they were counting on him to put up career average production and he hasn’t.
Both of those are reasons that they needed to add an impact bat in LF. They didn’t because of money. Specifically, CBT threshold room.
If Profar continues to hit like he is right now and Castellanos continues to hit about the same as Profar, I will have to eat some crow.
You can’t trade Darvish without getting back a package as good or better than the one you gave up. Do you think another team is going to do that?
I don’t believe Preller will trade Darvish at all, let alone during the season. But if he did, the acquiring team would get 1.5 seasons, not 3, which lowers his value considerably.
Exactly. None of the pitchers Preller traded for were “fix and flip” candidates. He didn’t acquire them to flip them. He acquired them to USE them.
Nomar’s better. Clap clap clap clap clap.
Not by mu-uch.
Truly pathetic take Cosmo. Typical, but pathetic.
Stats back ME up. Over the last few seasons, Cano has been much BETTER than Mazara. Considering that Cano is in decline, they are probably of about equal value right now. So spout obnoxious words like “pathetic” all you want, you’re just being ignorant. And typical? What are you talking about? Why so rude? Because you can’t back up your ideas with actual stats or logic perhaps?
LMAO. No. You are wrong. If they were of equal value, Cano would still be a Padre. .091 for the Padres dude. .091. .149 for the season.
You area also wrong about the stats. They blow all your arguments out of the water. Last season Cano didn’t play at all because he was suspended for PED. Because of that ALL his stats are suspect for the last few seasons he played prior to this year.
In 2018 he got popped for steroids, so that season is total BS stats.
In 2019, a season that he did not test positive for PED, he was a below league average hitter.
In 2020 he got popped for steroids AGAIN so you can throw those stats out the window.
So there are no GOOD seasons without steroids in the last 4.
He is now 39 and we saw for the Mets and Padres just how bad he is sans PED.
Your takes are simply pathetic. The fact that all the argumentative stuff from you that includes nothing close to the reality of the situation is typical of your comments is just sad.
If Cano were of equal value he’d still be a Padre? That’s a fallacy. There are many reasons players get released. They play different positions, for example, Tatis is returning. They may feel they more need an OFr. Unfortunately you are incapable of carrying on a mature conversation without resorting to childish whining and insults. Typical of the ignorant. Can’t back up your argument intelligently? Just throw out antagonist words like “pathetic”. You get nasty rather than provide much actual facts. I’ll let you whimper and whine with someone else. You don’t seem willing or capable of adult dialogue, and THAT’S pathetic.
@Cosmo2 Ask him about his other accounts outinleftfield and PLTuna! Or ask him to provide proof that Luis Campusano’s marijuana charges were reduced to a misdemeanor in November 2020!
I highly doubt that poster is an adult.
Cosmo? He is about 10 based on his posts.
Tatis is NOT returning today, tomorrow and possibly not this month. He still is not swinging a bat.
If Cano was worth as much as Mazara with the bat, someone else would be playing OF today. Padres have options. Azocar. Beaty who is ready to come off the IL. Shogo. Rooker. Obviously the Padres felt he was not.
You are the one throwing out childish insults. “Typical of the ignorant”?
The stats, the fact that no one has picked up Cano. and how Mazara has played has backed up my assertions and showed you were wrong.
All the pharmacies right there in TJ but Cano didn’t bite.
He’s done. Only roiders have mashed at age 40+ and a guy coming off the stuff is simply not going to be able to compete.
Can we get rid of the 26th player
When is Shogo getting the call?
only 65 ABs, but he’s hitting 340 with .920 OPS in El Paso, which is similar production to his 10 years at Seibu JPPL
Well, Seibu JPPL = AAA USA, roughly equal, more or less. Shogo may just be the proverbial 4-A ballplayer. It’s tough to make it in the majors.
Yep
Shogo may be the next man up as of now.
Worth a shot, even if the numbers aren’t in Nomar’s favor. Rob Can is done. I think Julio Franco is an ex-Ranger who Preller hasn’t reached out to…yet.
I’m not completely sure why people write off the idea that Mazara can still be at least a league average hitter. His years in Texas didn’t progress like people hoped, but it’s not like he was a bad player from 2016 to 2019. He set the bar so high when he was 21 that it was all just disappointing.. Lots of guys had down 2020’s and his 2021 was terrible, but he’s still only 27.
With the league-wide batting average around .240, he’d be well above average if he can even be what he was during those years. They’ll be thrilled if he can bat above .250 with a .750ish OPS..
The Pads have just two hitters with an OPS over .736, so yes if Mazara can manage .750 that would help the team.
3 …Profar /Hosmer/Manny…but yeah let Voit get over that soon add Tatis 3 or 4 weeks and Mazara becomes that 4th now/6th guy eventually over. 735… and we will be ok…especially if we can add a Naquin or > type CFer if Grishman continues to be crappy at the plate… Crone needs to get hot too
Can you name a single team that made it to the WS with only 3 hitters at or above league average? How about 4? Time saving hint: Padres would be the first.
Not sure Profar can be counted on to stay above that line since he has been going slightly above and below it all season and he currently sits at only .737. His career average is .707 and that is what I expect from him.
Since returning from his first injury this season, Voit is on pace to break that .736 around July 20th. Unfortunately, he is also striking out 38% of the time since then. And we know that an injury is coming soon for him. It always does.
Adding the injured Naquin would cost prospects and not improve the team much. He is not the answer to the Padres problems.
@Silvestre. This morning the Pads only have 2 guys (with more than 100 ABs) with an OPS over .718
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The factors that have suppressed offense across the majors will probably affect Mazara too.
His BABIP for El Paso is .426. Any bets on what it will fall too against major league pitching and defense?
Nothing against the guy. I hope he comes up and Roy Hobbs-es the crud out of the game.
If you saw Nomar in Detroit you would know why. His bat is slow. If does make contact, it’s a double play. He can loose the game with his poor play in the OF and on the bases. SD has some poor scouting.
Mazara switched his approach and swing and he is reaping the benefits..see if this new Mazara can at least give Pads that .754 OPS he posted in Texas when he had regular playing time it will be a huge improvement over they have now
If all he put up in an extreme hitters park in Texas is .754 then I have no hope that he can do that in Petco.
And so far, I would be wrong.
Mets should sue him but I know that wouldn’t do any good. Still, if I was an owner who paid for Cano’s services under false pretences due to PEDs I would be pissed. There needs to be some recourse when guys pull crap like this.
There is recourse, negotiated as part of the CBA. Players lose their salary when suspended for PEDs.
Cano lost his entire 2022 salary. The Mets knew he had one suspension in his past when they traded for him, they can’t claim to have been misled.
Correct, except he lost his 2021 salary. If he were to test positive again, he would lose the remainder of his contract and wouldn’t be able to apply for reinstatement until after it was over.
Right, typo on the year, Thanks.
Orioles sign him and release Chris Owings
I wanted Mazara so badly when the Phillies traded Cole Hamels to Texas.
Cano is a cancer in the clubhouse, he brings a stink you can’t get rid of. You have to cut him and sterilize everything. Look how Mets are doing and what he done to Friar’s. Mazara isn’t that way.
The other players on the Mets, Mariners, and Padres have all said publicly what a great guy he is to have in the clubhouse. As a fan, if you approach him, Cano is always friendly and even moreso if you speak Spanish.
The only cancer is the stench of PED use that comes from him and that stench is smelled by the fans, not necessarily the other players.
Having Met Mazara, he is surly with fans. I have never read any responses from teammates about his demeanor in the clubhouse. Maybe that is because he has never spent much time in the majors.
I know I will live to regret asking this question, but how much worse than .091/.118/.091 can Mazara be?
We’ve had the Mendoza Line, now we have a Cano Line. I’d like to think Mazara’s line is above Mendoza’s… time will tell.
Both have exhibited extremely low floors of late, but Cano seems to have the lowest ceiling at this time. Or a low canopy. Cano-py. Cano-pee. Canopean Line
Quick! Somebody duct tape Bloom to his chair before he signs Cano!
Still think he would be the best player on the Oakland A’s if they sign him
Mazara is 27? Feels like he has been around for a lot longer.
Cano had a crack at it… One of his three hits caused the now-injured Will Myers to drop to his knees to avoid a liner off Cano’s bat. Now, Myers is on the IL for a knee injury.
Destruction in his wake… At least his teammates seemed to like him in SD.
I’m good with this..One of Mazara’s biggest issues in the past was that he wouldn’t take a walk..and whether his minor league numbers are a mirage, or he’s worked on his approach, it seems that something’s changed..He’s still only 27..Let’s see what happens..
Another washed up ex Ranger. How long is ownership going to put up with this clown. Spending all this $$$ and you end up with Mazara and Profar in the outfield.
.421 BA with a .924 OPS. Mazara is doing something right.
Cano is a tale of players who hang on too long. Someone is actually going to sign him???
Washed up former All star, who was good like 5-10 years ago? Somewhere Kenny Williams just got ‘excited ‘(Im sure Rick Hahn did too)… I would not be surprised to see Cano in a White Sox uniform shortly.
It’s almost a guarantee. The Kenny Williams All-Stars never disappoint. The only issue is how to platoon him with Roberto Alomar?
In 19 ABs, Mazara now has 8 hits. Cano had 11 in 74 between 2 teams. Cano had zero hits in his last 20 AB and 9 games with the Padres. Just in case you are wondering why the Padres cut Cano loose.