Reds outfielder Tommy Pham told reporters (including The Cincinnati Enquirer’s Charlie Goldsmith) that he has been issued a three-game suspension for an altercation with the Giants’ Joc Pederson prior to last night’s game. The suspension began with last night’s contest, so Pham will miss the entirety of the Reds’ series with San Francisco. The league has officially announced the suspension, adding that Pham has also been issued a fine.
The incident took place during Friday’s batting practice, with Pederson telling reporters (including John Shea of The San Francisco Chronicle) that Pham approached Pederson in the outfield and eventually slapped him across the face during the confrontation. Adding to the bizarre nature of the situation, Pederson said Pham was upset over a past dispute in a fantasy football league from over a year ago, based on what players were or weren’t allowed to be placed on the injured reserve list as per the fantasy league’s rules.
Pham had a different take, saying that he took issue both with Pederson’s fantasy football actions and also some “disrespectful” comments Pederson allegedly made about the Padres, Pham’s former team.
“I didn’t like that, and I didn’t like the sketchy shit going on in the fantasy league. We’ve got too much money on the line, and I look at it like there’s a code,” Pham said.
The Reds initially had Pham in their starting lineup on Friday, though while the game was delayed for over two hours due to weather, Pham was scratched from the lineup. Pham said that during the delay, he was “getting pressured from MLB” as part of the league’s investigation into the incident, and he agreed to a three-game suspension for the duration of the series with the Giants.
Matfactor2
all over fantasy football…. Wow
iverbure
This guy has a 10 cent brain. When he’s outta work next year and people wonder why it’s because he’s a club house cancer and not anything to do with him being black
Angels21
Who said anything about him being black having anything to do with this?
jorge78
Because when the blowback comes they ALWAYS play the race card.
It’s NEVER because they are violent butt wipes…..
Angels21
Please show me ONE example about anyone blaming this situation on race other than you and the person I replied to. Yall are jumping the gun because of his skin color
Fever Pitch Guy
Pham has issues, obviously. Trashing the Tampa fans while he was still playing for Tampa ranks near the top of his “dumb shit” list.
I did feel sorry for him when he was stabbed, but he probably contributed to that situation as well.
southpawjb
He did. Two guys were fighting near his car at a strip club during the pandemic and he inserted himself into the situation because they were by his car.
jimmyz
The fact that this comment has 30+ upvotes shows the true colors of a lot of baseball fans and the sport in general…way too white.
SaltLakeBrave
@jimmyz, nothing wrong with being white. I have no idea if you are white. But if you are stop hating yourself for the color of your skin and, if you aren’t, get your raciest head out of your a**
desertbull
STFU
jimmyz
I am white and there is nothing wrong with being white, just the same as there is nothing wrong with being black or Vietnamese. The racism is implied in the post I responded to which inserts his ethnicity when it has no bearing on the situation at all. I’ll agree that I went too far in the opposite direction but allowing statements like that to go unchecked allows racism to thrive.
NoKluReds
I blame it on Will Smith.
jorge78
JimZ see my
comment
above…..
jorge78
As is right and
proper!
scotcousins
everyone just be sure to have the correct amount of whiteness that jimmyz sees fit and things will be fine
Zerbs63
Sure blame the white catcher..
Clinton 2
I think its about honor and respect here. Like Pham stated, money is on the line.
With these guys its not nickels and dimes or quarters…EVEN IF THEY STILL HAD ACTUAL SILVER IN THEM….LOL
Anyways. Men should live by a code of honor amongst each other. If we don’t have that we have anarchy!
Poster formerly known as . . .
This is sarcasm, right?
Just checking.
skyline619
Nah, he’s not kidding. They play in fantasy football leagues with 5 figure sums. So when he says his money is on the line, he ain’t talking some $50 and a championship belt.
Capi
So it’s honorable to slap a man over a game? Wow… As a person that works in the Casino industry there’s something we say a lot… If you don’t like it, don’t put your money on it… Nobody forced Pham to bet his money.
outinleftfield
I am in a keeper league with 5 figure money on the line and I never slapped the commish. Maybe Strip Club Tommy should have read the rules first.
outinleftfield
Oops. I made the assumption that he can read. Sorry.
Pete'sView
Plus, it appears that what Joc did was legal. This is so petty as to be absurd. Don’t want Pham on my team or in any league, fantasy or real.
jimmyz
And he probably just lost a five or six figure future contract next season by publicly slapping another guy.
jonbluvin
@Clinton 2 Since when does honor and slapping go together? What an odd thing to say.
Yankee Clipper
It doesn’t…ever. That’s a man acting like a teenager.
RobM
If they played for the Yankees or Mets, they could have ferried over to shores of Weehawken and settled it like men with a pistol duel.
Gwynning
Not surprised by a Clinton feeling that way. Low hanging fruit, I immediately apologize!
sufferforsnakes
It does if the slapper is holding a white handkerchief.
CALgoldenBears
First thing I thought of was that this was a friendly disagreement like in How I Met Your Mother- Barney and Marshal over slapsgiving. But when Joc posted the text conversation, I thought, two men slapping each other? Gone are the days of “raising your fists.” It’s “shutup or else I am going to slap you.”
I’ll pause why I shake my head in disbelief ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I will close by saying, irrelevant of race, I am sure all the greatgrandfathers, grandfathers and dads out there are asking “where are the real men today???”
Pete'sView
Rey — Two men did not “slap each other.” Only Tommy Pham acted like a child.
Dad
I’m in the wrong century!
BigFootsFart
Anarchy is great. No govt equals no scumbags stealing our money for their pockets pretending it goes to infrastructure. Also, forget money. Money means nothing. Being a good human is all that matters. If you believe is worth slapping someone over, you’re very low IQ. Extremely low IQ
Poster formerly known as . . .
You do realize that the government built every road you drive on, built every hydroelectric dam, laid the pipes your water comes through and built the pumping stations and maintains the reservoirs, built the railroads, built the ports and manages shipping, funds and trains the police and firefighters, funds and trains the U.S. military that defends this country, funds and manages mass transit, tests and regulates medicinal drugs, tests food for contaminants, funds and staffs public schools, negotiates trade agreements with other nations, and responds to natural disasters like the tornadoes that hit your state of Arkansas — don’t you?
Now picture your life with none of those things, if you can. Do you still think anarchy is great?
pirateking24
Government doesn’t fund anything.
CardsFan77
Forst of all, our government hasn’t built a damn thing… hard working Americans have built everything. The government just made sure the funds filtered through their hands first so they can skim off the top
Poster formerly known as . . .
Not familiar with Article I of the Constitution, are you?
jimmyz
None of that is the real problem with true anarchy in practice. Violence and whoever has the biggest guns wins is the problem with anarchy. Also the same problem with government really. Theoretically both work well but that assumes humans are peaceful and want to help all and not just themselves. This article and life in general proves otherwise.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Well, Jimmy, the lack of a police force would affect that problem, wouldn’t it? And the lack of a military would affect the problem of attacks coming from foreign adversaries, no? Believe me, I’d love to live in a world without crime and war, but that world, so far, has never existed.
desertbull
Govt doesn’t build anything, genius
Poster formerly known as . . .
Did you pay attention in History class, desertbull?
‘A national public works program would not receive committed presidential support until Franklin D. Roosevelt’s administration. He revolutionized the philosophy of public works as he grappled with the greatest economic crisis in American history. A spate of legislation created the Public Works, the Civil Works, and the Works Progress administrations, plus the Civil Conservation Corps, four “alphabet soup” agencies designed to reduce unemployment and revitalize the economy. Under these New Deal programs, the government built schools, hospitals, dams, tunnels, and highways.
‘“You can’t go any place that was of any size in the thirties and not find something done by one of the New Deal projects,” says Robert D. Leighninger Jr., author of “Long-Range Public Investment: The Forgotten Legacy of the New Deal.” The Grand Coulee Dam in Washington State, Lincoln Tunnel in New York City, and the Triborough Bridge linking Manhattan, the Bronx, and Queens count among the immense, innovative projects completed by New Deal programs. Hoover Dam—raised by an army of workers employed by a resourceful, federally funded private consortium—tamed the Colorado River and met the West’s growing energy needs. Further east, the dams of the Tennessee Valley Authority controlled dangerous rivers and generated much electricity.’
Poster formerly known as . . .
The $1.2 trillion Infrastructure bill recently signed into law escaped your notice, eh, pirateking?
bit.ly/3GrMPBU
You do understand that anything paid for with tax dollars is government-funded, don’t you? And you do further understand that, as Lincoln said, ours is declaratively a government of, by, for the people, right? So anything funded by the government is funded by the people, capisce?
jimmyz
Fink ployd, I had a history teacher that used to say the best form of government is a benevolent dictatorship. It was his way of saying that nothing will ever be right or just. You gotta live with and make the best of what exists.
Poster formerly known as . . .
In a democratic republic, you don’t have to accept the status quo. It’s not only your right, but also arguably your obligation, to participate in the political process to improve your own life. The trouble with democracy is that it requires work, and who wants that? An old David Bowie lyric captured it pretty well:
Someone to claim us, someone to follow
Someone to shame us, some brave Apollo
Someone to fool us, someone like you
We want you, Big Brother, Big Brother
One Bite Hotdog
poor math tells me that:
1 year contract =7.5 million
7.5 MM /162 games
=$46.296/game
3 games suspension loss=
-$138, 888.
plus the (speculative) comparatively paltry sum lost in the FF League.
oldschool 15
What the hell are you talking about?
fox471 Dave
I guess we have established that Clinton 2 is not the sharpest piece of cutlery in the drawer. Anybody understand the reference to honor and money and….?
jorge78
No, it’s about thousands he feels he was cheated out of. He’s probably a cheapskate. I bet he went to that strip club and passed out $1 bills…..
oldmanblue
The guy is a d@ck
Poster formerly known as . . .
I have heard it said that if it looks like a d@ck, swims like a d@ck, flies like a d@ck, walks like a d@ck and quacks like a d@ck, it’s a d@ck.
Roberto Gee
$$$$$$$
runalotte
Only 3 games? Major league body and very minor league mind.
dadofdonnydownvote
I’m not surprised with 3 games suspension. TA got nothing for punishment for shoving Donaldson and neither did Grandal who was obviously the aggressor in a bench clearing fracas. MLB doesn’t tend to be fair or impartial.
TonyGwynnSD19
Joc gets Bitchslapped by Pham. Then Giants drop 2 in a row to one of the worst teams in the history of MLB.
earmbrister
Wake up sleepy Tony. The Reds aren’t one of the worst teams in the history of MLB, not even close. They were a team that was decimated by injuries. They’ll be a middle of the pack team by years end.
ednickelson
Can they enforce some kind of anger management program for him? A grown ass man punching someone over fantasy sports….grow up
baines03
Not punching….slapping. What is with all the slapping is what I want to know?
Capi
You must be Amber Heard lol
mikevm3
He’s 6-foot-1 but manages to be such a small, small man.
Wowwwwww
He should be out of the league. Not because of the slap, but because he’s a thug. Not suprised he got stabbed. He’s more of a headache than he’s worth as his on field play isn’t that good.
Gwynning
I really hope Pham seeks the help he would seem to require.
octavian8
We can’t act surprised given his track record.
2012orioles
They must have a $10,000 buy in
JimmyForum
Another ballplayer raised in the cardinal system acting like a punk. There’s obviously a trend here.
Poster formerly known as . . .
What other punks have come through their system?
makaio6
He’s probably a fan of a team they beat.
chiefnocahoma1
He’s baseball’s Antonio Brown
Capi
Except Antonio Brown is really good… Pham, not that much.
Oregondonor
Was
pinstripes17
Without all the talent
Monkey’s Uncle
Pham has issues.
acmeants
How idiotic and uncalled for. Pham obviously needs an intervention.
mlb1225
Not only was it over fantasy football, but it was over fantasy football, from OVER a year ago.
Monkey’s Uncle
I can barely even remember who I had on my team last year, and I win my league.
etex211
Millionaires fighting in the workplace over fantasy football? Okie dokie.
gmenfan
You see, it’s the principle of the whole thing. There’s principalities in this.
StupendousYappi
This guy Pham seems to be a real nut job. That aside the gambling aspect of this needs to be addressed. These guys are playing for BIG money as per reports. That is very dangerous. Gambling by these athletes cannot be condoned. Both should be suspended. Of course Pham should be suspended far longer then 3 games for a violent attack on another player anyway. Hopefully the league smartens up and hits both with a lengthy suspension.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Given that MLB is in bed with more than one gambling outfit as official sponsors — at least two I know of: Draft Kings and MGM Resorts — it might be hard even for such hypocritical frauds as MLB to raise a stink about gambling now.
But, hey — I wouldn’t put it past them.
tstats
Why not let them gamble it’s their life choices/money AND it’s not even their sport
YankeesBleacherCreature
Pro athletes gambling/prop betting is like water is wet. It’s been going on for a loooonnngg time.
CALgoldenBears
Since when is a slap to another man considered “a violent attack”??? What do you classify a man punching another man? Or worse using a weapon or object to hurt another man?
Robrock30
I still like Joc; Pham is a bad guy.
rondon
Actually, my brother met him last season during the playoffs and said he was a rude pr#ck. Might’ve been a bad night but there’s always 2 sides- even in ridiculous stories like this mess.
desertbull
Hate crime
geg42
The way Pederson explained it, it sounded so trivial and was so long ago. Truly bizarre.
b00giem@n
“Keep my fantasy team name out of your mouth!”
fred-3
What is Manfred smoking? Only 3 games for physically assaulting someone?
Sideline Redwine
He slapped him. Assault? Please. Why have people lost all sense of perspective?
Cosmo2
Perhaps you need a refresher if the definition of assault, because slapping someone is EXACTLY assault. Well, technically I think it’s battery (assault begins somewhere around the first threat), but I’m not a lawyer.
Fever Pitch Guy
Redwine – You probably don’t know who she is, but a famous 82-year-old actress was charged with battery for slapping a cop. That was 33 years ago.
Laws are laws, intentionally spitting on someone is also battery.
Bobcastelliniscat
It was Za Za Gabor and yes Pham broke the law.
Zerbs63
Battery is hitting someone, assault is an attempt to hit someone. So this would be considered assault and battery.
jgoody62
3 games for slapping someone, 1 game for racist comments… where’s the constancy?
braves2
who said something racist?
Gwynning
TA accused Donaldson of it even though TA refers to himself as “the new Jackie.”
Dad
He’s been racistly calling him Jackie for years, it wasn’t new. Lost respect for JD!
Gwynning
For sake of argument, Dad- is TA calling himself “the new Jackie” racist? If not, then why can TA say it and JD can’t? I have no dog in the fight.
Cosmo2
What is constancy and how does what you are describing violate it?
Crunchtime1969
Pham is a bully, and Joc is an immature baseball brat. Money matters.
cguy
Is slapping opponents on the field prior to the game part of Pham’s “Revenge Tour” strategy?All this time I thought the intent was to outplay opponents & make other teams regret not signing you. Hard to accomplish that when your suspended, isn’t it?
cguy
Rather have Puig back than Pham. Even at same money. Heck rather have Trevor Bauer back than either/both (at Pham money)
kingsfan1968
At least Bauer only punches when asked!
Cosmo2
Why are those the choices. Puig hasn’t even been a worthwhile player in five years.
Pete'sView
cguy — Horrible choices that you (nor any team) needs to make.
Bobcastelliniscat
I prefer to have none of the above. Each player seem to have mental health issues. The Reds are going to lose 100 games this season. If you are going to lose 100 games, at lease do it without players who commit physical or sexual assulats.
earmbrister
I wouldn’t count on the Reds losing 100 games. After a 3-22 start during which they were ravaged by injuries, they’ve been 14-9 since. Not the worst team in MLB (KC), not the second worst (Nats), and now nipping at the Cubbies heels.
outinleftfield
Hard to accomplish when you can’t hit a baseball.
Brew88
Based on trends and tendencies I fear prison or worse is in Tommy’s future if he doesn’t get the help he needs.
Yankee Clipper
They should give him plenty of time off to get said help too.
Gwynning
Clip, just dawned on me that I warned you guys about Pham about 6 months ago or so? Perhaps it was Ducky Buckin Fent, but I suppose we’re all happy you guys avoided these shenanigans. Be good buddy!
Yankee Clipper
Yes you did, Gwynning. You were dead right too! Smart fella, you are, sir. Thanks for the heads-up. I texted Cashman on my burner phone right away….
Yankee Clipper
I’m thoroughly confounded here. JD gets one game for name-calling TA a name that wasn’t an expletive or anything that, on it’s own, is inappropriate. It was offensive to TA. Meanwhile, Tommy Pham physically assaults another player and gets 3 games? For a potential criminal act? That seems……….. a tad light, considering.
This demonstrates MLB, also known as Manfred, has absolutely no structure. No true system in place for fair or consistent punishment.
Physically assaulting another player should warrant a much heavier penalty, imo. MLB is playing with fire here. They appear to be establishing dual standards….again.
My question: If Joc had slapped Pham across the face, does he only get a 3-game suspension? I’m genuinely curious.
Poster formerly known as . . .
I’m waiting to see if MLB issues an official statement like they did with the Donaldson/Anderson incident (you’d think two Swedes could get along, right?), and if the statement describes this assault of a white player by a black player as a case of racial bias.
Brew88
Pham is part Vietnamese
Poster formerly known as . . .
Ah! Thanks for that. I should’ve known from the name.
Bobcastelliniscat
Yeah we get it, you’re offened because MLB is picking on racists.
Yankee Clipper
Your assertion is that Pham is racist? Or that MLB is picking on Donaldson? It’s difficult to discern where you are going with your statement, Bob.
Anyway, my comment said neither of those, so you miscomprehended the narrative, if that was your inference. I do appreciate your opinion, however.
kingsfan1968
The Liberal mind believes words are much worse than deeds!
Poster formerly known as . . .
And the conservative mind thinks exercising the right to protest is much worse than violating the Constitution by denying that right.
I guess nobody’s perfect, eh, kingsfan?
Cosmo2
All due respect, if you are referring to the violence and discord that took place particularly in the northwest, THAT type of “protesting” shouldn’t be protected by anyone.
Poster formerly known as . . .
No, I’m referring to Gabe Kapler’s protest. I thought that was obvious. I guess not.
Cosmo2
Sorry, I get you now
outinleftfield
lib·er·al
1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one’s own; open to new ideas.
2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Proud to say I believe in being both of those things. The question is why don’t you?
You do know that the first person to use liberal as a pejorative was Hitler, right?
Then Mussolini.
Then Stalin.
Then McCarthy.
Then Nixon.
Do you see a trend there? Some of the worst people to ever walk the face of the earth. Is that really the company you want to put yourself in? I mean really?
Yankee Clipper
What people call, “liberals” today are not liberals in any sense of the word, usually. It’s a label that stuck to define far left idealists, which today are not in the same universe as classic liberals.
Okay, I’m going to get sick now from all the politics……blech.
Poster formerly known as . . .
And today’s self-identified conservatives aren’t classic conservatives. That ship sailed, sadly.
Cosmo2
Outinleftfield: that definition is what liberals USED to be. Liberalism in its dictionary definition is a good thing but todays “liberals” are actually leftists, a very, very different thing.
Bobcastelliniscat
Why spend time writing that garbage when no one is going to read it?
66TheNumberOfTheBest
“kingsfan19683 hours ago
The Liberal mind believes words are much worse than deeds!”
Exactly!
That’s why liberals hate Colin Kaepernick for quietly exercising his Constitutional First Amendment right to protest in a country founded on protest, yet defend and lionize the cop maiming rioters from Jan. 6 as “normal tourists” engaged in “legitimate political discourse”.
Oh, wait…
dadofdonnydownvote
Only in sports do you get to assault people and get a laughable suspension. Try doing that at a real job and get immediately terminated.
outinleftfield
AND arrested.
Zerbs63
Hollywood gets no punishment
tommy-9
TA is a moron just looking for attention. Donaldson did nothing wrong. TA has been calling himself the new Jackie when he has nowhere near the talent. Donaldson was just mocking him for yet another dumb ass statement TA made
cguy
Is slapping opponents on the field prior to the game part of Pham’s “Revenge Tour” strategy?All this time I thought the intent was to outplay opponents & make other teams regret not signing you. Hard to accomplish that when your suspended, isn’t it?
desertbull
Its not like Joc called him “Jackie” or anything.
JayRyder
Will Smith
Yankee Clipper
Fake slap.
MattyD 2
Pham is ticking time bomb waiting to go off. When he finally goes off it’s going to be something interesting that’s for sure. He is also a ahole.
kingsfan1968
Pham’s next job will be at the Post Office!
jorge78
Another Will Smith contribution to society. Slapping someone is now a popular way to solve problems…..
Cosmo2
Basically todays society says that if you feel something, act on it. Restraint is for haters.
RobM
Seems like some baseball players are more passionate about a fantasy football game instead of how much they suck at baseball. Pretty sure there are some fantasy baseball owners quite upset with Pham for other reasons.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, too much money & time with no real motivation. Have those contracts add in performance measures and see how serious they start taking baseball.
He will probably get punished more in his fantasy league for this action.
pirateking24
WTF. Pham just pulled a Will Smith.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Sort of. But Pham is only suspended for three games. Smith is banned from all functions of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for 10 years and he resigned from the Academy.
Enrico Pallazzo
Same guy who stabbed outside a strip club in San Diego right?
cguy
Bad boy, bad boy, What ya gonna do? (very litle of consequence)
hoof hearted
Dang, acting like a bunch of girls. And I’m not talking like a ” Ronda Rousey”….
Ron Tingley
I was a Tommy Pham fan knowing the dude made himself into a who he is without a father around. Kinda question the Luke Voit Comment being like 5 games in with a new terrible team after no one else wanted him. Like mentioned by Enrico was stabbed outside a strip club. Now gotta think the dude is getting a little help to encourage the rage. Might be linked to his breakout season at age 29. Joc seems well liked by his Dodger, Cubs and Braves teammates. Also.. real nice these guys are basically betting big money on football like their Pete Rose but calling it all a fantasy.
dadofdonnydownvote
Makes no sense. The all time hits leader banned over 30 years now for gambling. Too me gambling is gambling no matter if you bet for or against your own team. Now gambling is fine but Rose is still banned.
Ron Tingley
From what I understand, Rose was a questionable dude who gave some sort of undisclosed confession to the commish that’s keeping him out of baseball. Might not just be gambling is all I’m saying. Maybe he’s a ninja who knows
CALgoldenBears
Rose being banned from HOF has more to it than gambling- google “underage 16 yo girl while he was married”
CNichols
An underrated aspect of this is part the reason he supposedly slapped Joc was for disrespecting the Padres, but like a month ago he was literally challenging Padres players to fights. Just an all around wild situation
Hired Gun 23
He didn’t like JP talking trash about the Padres? I wonder if any Padres player, from the time Pham was here, reached out to say, “Thanks”…
Gwynning
Nope! Pham is on his own here.
Jacksson13
Just like in real life. Due to a fight, the JOC is never penalized !!
Gwynning
Jocs vs. Socials, somebody needs to Photoshop Pederson’s and Pham’s head on an Outsiders poster, stat!
Franklin Souze
At what point and at what $$$$ amount does this revelation cross the line & become a breach of ethics & contractual moral standards for active MLB players & support employees?
I believe the the greater issue for MLB is why are two active MLB players actively participating in degenerate gambling activities….the potential ramifications & collateral impacts are troubling & extremely serious.
Another nail in the coffin of trust, ethics & standards for MLB.
Sorry for being an Angels fan
Did you just seriously use the word degenerate? Grow up
Franklin Souze
I did and I are……
Dunedin020306
Stay classy Tommy!
Yankee Clipper
Dunedin! Hope you’re well, my friend. Can’t believe these guys, man.
Redwolves3
And Kapler doesn’t get anything for disrespecting the National Anthem and the service members who have fought for and lost their lives fighting for the freedom for every man, woman and child in the United States.
Yankee Clipper
What did Kapler do?
foppert
Didn’t come out for the anthem. Inaction on gun control. Not proud of his country right now.
tommy-9
There are a lot of people not proud of this country right now. Also people need to grow up. Flags and Anthems are not what makes you a citizen nor should people be forced to respect them. That is why Kapernick will always have my respect for making a statement that NEEDED to be made and his career suffered for it because so called “patriots” dont want to see the problem he was bringing attention to and just wanted to silence him so they can go on living their pretend lives that they arent horrible people
Franklin Souze
Lol – Redwolves3- and,and and what about Kennedy botching the Bay of Pigs incident…and, and why don’t Bullfrogs have wings ! !
Javia135
@Redwolves3
Yeah! It’s not like protesting is specifically protected in the Constitution or anything.
Brew88
Peacefully
Oddvark
Do you think the MLB is a governmental body?
Poster formerly known as . . .
Here’s a poem just for you, by e. e. cummings. It’s about a fellow soldier he knew while stationed with him in the same barracks in France during WWI:
The moderators won’t let me post it. It has bad words. But you can read it by following this link:
poets.org/poem/i-sing-olaf-glad-and-big
Poster formerly known as . . .
Thanks to the mod(s) for finally clearing this comment.
Poster formerly known as . . .
The moderator(s) won’t let me post a reply to you. I wanted to share a famous poem with you, but no dice.
Let freedom ring.
Poster formerly known as . . .
“And Kapler doesn’t get anything for disrespecting the National Anthem and the service members who have fought for and lost their lives fighting for the freedom for every man, woman and child in the United States.”
You mean like the freedom you want to deny to Kapler?
That’s an odd way to honor the service members who fought for it.
foppert
Suspend Kapler for a silent, peaceful protest against something that contributed to 19 schoolchildren being murdered.
Ok. Sure.
outinleftfield
If you served, you know that we served to PROTECT the right to protest. Its literally the first right given in the Constitution, the document we swore to uphold and protect. What we didn’t swear an oath to protect is people assaulting others. What you are saying is the OPPOSITE of the reality of what our country is all about.
Pete'sView
Redwolves3 — Bullshit. I served, Kapler made clear why he is protesting and it’s not about service members, it’s about a country being run into the ground by gutless politicians.
tedtheodorelogan
Not surprised, considering this same idiot managed to get himself stabbed in a strip club parking lot.
positively_broad_st
The Reds signed Pham as a potential trade piece for this year’s trade deadline. Since no team will want him now and hes not productive, the Reds should just release him. He’ll get all his guaranteed money for this year, plus the option buyout, but his career in MLB will be over. Maybe a team in Mexico might sign him…Maybe…Maybe not…
chipperniner7
Since this is about fantasy football…. is anyone interested in joining my league on the website leaguesafe? Lol
mike q.
Tommy Pham may have more free time, so maybe he can help out
chipperniner7
I only play for $75, Tommy might not want to join since it’s only a measly $75 lol
SueJen
He is a embarrassment to the Reds and himself. His idiotic actions are indefensible.
dkhits20
As if the Reds didn’t have enough to be embarrassed about
kingsfan1968
Pham is a punk! He needs anger management! Goosfraba Goosfraba Goosfraba! Fantasy leagues have rules and the commissioner enforces them!
notnamed
phamussy league
hummm babyyyy
Hate crime
5TUNT1N
Dudes got anger issues, mental health check/break prolly necessary for this guy to get his mind right. That’s the message MLB is trying send. But if someone struck someone like that at my work I wouldn’t feel comfortable going back with a 3 day break for that employee. Mildly condoning work place violence is a bad look.
outinleftfield
Strip Club Tommy has an anger management problem.
SladeyX12112
He’s a narcissistic goon and though he’s always about the “other guy” screwing him, he’s the one that’s perpetually his worst enemy.
There’s never been a more dramatic dolt!
Yankee Clipper
It was likely something innocent, like Joc saying,
“Man, Pham, your fantasy teams sucks as bad as the Reds!”
Or, “Pham, this dude’s as useless to my fantasy team as you are to baseball!”
Ya know…..come to think of it, if you put this guy & Donaldson in each other’s path……
kingbum
Pham in my opinion should of been suspended long ago for longer, there’s a video out of him on YouTube in which he says he doesn’t care what the Reds do, he just wants to put up numbers so he can get a better contract. No team thoughts at all, if you wanted to be there for ya team he wouldn’t of slapped Joc.
kingbum
As far as Gabe Kapler goes, while he is grossly misinformed that only mass shootings happen in the US he has the right to protest. Freedom of speech has always been synonyms with Freedom of expression. That right is exactly what soldiers have died for, those men and women support the Gabe Kaplers or Colin Kapernicks right to protest. Protecting that right is what they signed up for.
Yankee Clipper
Precisely. I think the manner in which he is protesting is misguided, largely ineffectual, likely for Tweeter “likes,” but I would gladly die in service to my country for his right to do it!
foppert
Pretty sure the “only” was in reference to schools. Probably not correct to the absolute letter but broadly speaking…..
Home of the Brave?
May 27, 2022 By Gabe Kapler 822 Comments
The day 19 children and 2 teachers were murdered, we held a moment of silence at sporting events around the country, then we played the national anthem, and we went on with our lives.
Players, staff and fans stood for the moment of silence, grieving the lives lost, and then we (myself included) continued to stand, proudly proclaiming ourselves the land of the free and the home of the brave. We didn’t stop to reflect on whether we are actually free and brave after this horrific event, we just stood at attention.
When I was the same age as the children in Uvalde, my father taught me to stand for the pledge of allegiance when I believed my country was representing its people well or to protest and stay seated when it wasn’t. I don’t believe it is representing us well right now.
This particular time, an 18 year old walked into a store, bought multiple assault rifles and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, walked into a school with an armed resource officer and its own police district and was able to murder children for nearly an hour. Parents begged and pleaded with police officers to do something, police officers who had weapons and who receive nearly 40% of the city’s funding, as their children were being murdered.
We elect our politicians to represent our interests. Immediately following this shooting, we were told we needed locked doors and armed teachers. We were given thoughts and prayers. We were told it could have been worse, and we just need love.
But we weren’t given bravery, and we aren’t free. The police on the scene put a mother in handcuffs as she begged them to go in and save her children. They blocked parents trying to organize to charge in to stop the shooter, including a father who learned his daughter was murdered while he argued with the cops. We aren’t free when politicians decide that the lobbyist and gun industries are more important than our children’s freedom to go to school without needing bulletproof backpacks and active shooter drills.
I’m often struck before our games by the lack of delivery of the promise of what our national anthem represents. We stand in honor of a country where we elect representatives to serve us, to thoughtfully consider and enact legislation that protects the interests of all the people in this country and to move this country forward towards the vision of the “shining city on the hill.” But instead, we thoughtlessly link our moment of silence and grief with the equally thoughtless display of celebration for a country that refuses to take up the concept of controlling the sale of weapons used nearly exclusively for the mass slaughter of human beings. We have our moment (over and over), and then we move on without demanding real change from the people we empower to make these changes. We stand, we bow our heads, and the people in power leave on recess, celebrating their own patriotism at every turn.
Every time I place my hand over my heart and remove my hat, I’m participating in a self congratulatory glorification of the ONLY country where these mass shootings take place. On Wednesday, I walked out onto the field, I listened to the announcement as we honored the victims in Uvalde. I bowed my head. I stood for the national anthem. Metallica riffed on City Connect guitars.
My brain said drop to a knee; my body didn’t listen. I wanted to walk back inside; instead I froze. I felt like a coward. I didn’t want to call attention to myself. I didn’t want to take away from the victims or their families. There was a baseball game, a rock band, the lights, the pageantry. I knew that thousands of people were using this game to escape the horrors of the world for just a little bit. I knew that thousands more wouldn’t understand the gesture and would take it as an offense to the military, to veterans, to themselves.
But I am not okay with the state of this country. I wish I hadn’t let my discomfort compromise my integrity. I wish that I could have demonstrated what I learned from my dad, that when you’re dissatisfied with your country, you let it be known through protest. The home of the brave should encourage this.
Yankee Clipper
That’s awesome Foppert, really is. But, coincidentally, he would be the first to fight for his own gain, trying to pry an extra million from the owner, while schools go underfunded, p police go undertrained, with both schools & police lacking equipment, etc, etc, etc, only to return to his rich, gated community, with plenty of protection from “those people” so he could sleep soundly and wag his finger at America again tomorrow.
It’s the hypocrisy to which I was referring. These guys all stand for something, until it cuts into their pie. It’s also misguided because it’s not protesting “the country” that will effectuate change – that’s a smokescreen.
Action coupled with money, of which he has plenty, will effectuate change. But, I doubt he will forego even one expensive dinner to stand for what’s right. But, on TV? While he’s getting paid millions at a nice, secure baseball game? Heck yeah!
CaseyAbell
Pham’s a corner outfielder with a .708 OPS right now. He has to get that OPS up over .800 before he gets slapping privileges.
Halfway seriously, the story is beyond bizarre. A fantasy football spat and Pham goes ballistic? The Reds will quietly trade him at the deadline, if not before. Let somebody else put up with the nonsense. Pham’s not worth it.
BaseballBrian
Anybody over the age of 18 who plays fantasy football is a dweeb.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Dweeb here. Been in a league 15 years running with friends. I look forward to my beer-drinking, trash-talking draft day every season. None of us care about the money. I received a LED-lit, golden dildo trophy for winning a few years ago and will cherish it forever.
Poster formerly known as . . .
That sounds like a major award.
YankeesBleacherCreature
If you try to steal it, I’ll slap you with it! One of the guys owns a fancy 3D-printer so he produces whatever we collectively design and mounts it on nice wood.
Poster formerly known as . . .
So, wood on wood, eh?
Brew88
Maybe Pham wanted Ped’s LED light dildo, and it’s all as simple as that
Poster formerly known as . . .
Maybe Joc said he owned an LED-lit, golden dildo and Pham got mad because he thought Joc meant that he owned him.
Yankee Clipper
Hahahahaha!
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
Makes ya wonder what he said before getting stabbed..
longines64
Something about Kapernick eligibility?
Sorry for being an Angels fan
What a baby
aTouchOfSarcasm
I’m pretty sure that if I walked up to someone at a different hospital than the one I work at and slapped someone, I’d be in jail
CrikesAlready
Tommy Pham was a clubhouse cancer. During a pandemic, went to a strip club and suffered serious injuries (detailed in his lawsuit against the club). Barely performed for the Padres.
Has degenerative vision issues. Didn’t get addressed until well into last year’s spring training.
His father is in prison for messing with children (after compiling a long criminal record). Mother was a typical North Las Vegas single mom…
Damaged goods: Mentally and physically.
Ticking time bomb.
ArianaGrandSlam
So slapping is a trend now?
Redwolves3
Kapler needs to do his job on the field instead of expressing his political views. After today’s 3-2 loss to Cincinnati today the Giants are now assured of losing their 3 game series to the worst team in National League.
Yankee Clipper
But, at least he gets to go home to his gated, wealthy community with tons of protection, after picking his kids up from their uber-expensive private school. They should all sleep well tonight. But before they do, he can turn on the TV and show them what he did for the country & his contribution to the mass shooting epidemic – and what a contribution it was…….yawn.
Poster formerly known as . . .
So wealthy sports managers shouldn’t concern themselves with the slaughter of 19 children and two teachers, both of them mothers? Do you know what happened to the husband of one of those teachers? He collapsed and died of grief at the loss of his life’s companion and the mother of their four kids.
Maybe that should be uppermost in our minds, not criticizing a U.S. citizen expressing a grievance against a government that refuses to do a damned thing to stop these serial tragedies and national disgraces because, as Steve Kerr put it so well, 50 senators are more concerned with their power than with the lives of children.
binged.it/3wXp8wK
Redwolves3
Have you checked the number of shootings and murders lately in Chicago? The politicians and especially mayor just want to conveniently look the other way.
Poster formerly known as . . .
“The majority of guns used in crimes are guns stolen from homes and vehicles.”
Do you know who said that, Redwolves? A strident gun rights advocate on a website called ConcealedCarry.com. Even a guy who wants everyone to have the right to carry firearms in public and own assault weapons admits that the guns used by criminals aren’t legally purchased — they’re stolen from legal gun owners.
And this is from a site called “Behind the Badge”:
‘Sadly, robberies, aggravated assaults, gang shootings, and a myriad of gun crimes are an every day occurrence in cities across the country. A day doesn’t go by when you can’t read, see, or hear about a gun-related crime on the news.
‘Of course it begs the question, how do these crooks get guns? Well, they don’t buy them at retail outlets, gun shows, or on the internet. That is one of the findings from the latest Bureau of Justice Statistics report, “Source and Use of Firearms Involved in Crimes: Survey of Prison Inmates 2016“.
‘Thousands of prison inmates were surveyed across the United States with specific questions on how they obtained firearms. The results showed less than 2 percent of the prisoners surveyed obtained a firearm from a retail source.
‘So where did they get the guns? The answer is simple. They got them from people who had legally purchased them but didn’t secure them.
‘Most of the firearms used by prisoners during the commission of their crimes were stolen, either by the crook themselves or bought from someone else who had stolen it.’
behindthebadge.com/a-new-survey-confirms-the-major…
See, this is the price we pay for easy-access gun laws bought and paid for by the lobbyists of the arms industry: America’s criminals have a vast reservoir of illegal guns with which to kill and rob people. That’s how the criminals in Chicago and elsewhere get their weapons.
So which politicians are you talking about — the ones who passed a law in Congress mandating universal background checks, or the 50 senators blocking that law because they serve people who want it be easy to buy a gun?
The ATF calls I-95 “the Iron Pipline” because so many guns from Southern states with lax gun laws are driven up that highway to states with strict gun laws, states like New York and New Jersey, to be sold on the black market. Ninety percent of guns recovered in crimes in New York are from out-of-state according to WCBS reporter Rich Lamb. According to a report in The Wall Street Journal, 60% of the guns used in crimes in Chicago are from out-of-state.
Not only does easy gun ownership endanger the public by arming criminals; owning a gun increases your odds of getting shot.
Here’s an excerpt from an article in The New Scientist:
“Overall, Branas’s study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.”
That study was conducted at the University of Pennsylvania, a school that Donald Trump frequently boasted of having attended.
Read more: newscientist.com/article/dn17922-carrying-a-gun-in…
In Japan, handguns are illegal. The only guns you can own, after passing stringent ownership requirements, are shotguns and air rifles. They have, on average, less that 10 shooting deaths a year. Who’s safer — them or us?
Gwynning
@Fink- …your educational diatribe highlights the existing quagmire… how do we make all the current guns go away? What is the solution there? I think both of us understand that could and/or would never happen. The black market would also always exist, which perpetuates the essential need for legal weapons. Circular is the nature of this beast. As a law respecting citizen I, for one, believe in even stricter ownership laws… but I could also come home today with anything I like after making a call or two. Law obeying citizens need to retain the same right of ownership.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Thanks for terming it a diatribe, Gwynning.
In terms of the logistical possibility of making the current guns go away, I’m not as fatalistic as you. In terms of the political will, common decency and basic intelligence to make that possibility a reality, I confess to sharing your pessimism.
If sufficient numbers of Americans embraced the moral priority of saving lives from gun violence over the desire to own guns, it would certainly be possible to rid ourselves of the guns. That it’s desirable is biblically affirmed:
“They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.”
Jesus wasn’t called the Prince of Peace offhandedly. The ideal of nonviolence is incontrovertibly portrayed in Genesis in the story of Cain and Abel. The book goes on from there to describe the degeneration of the human race into worsening levels of violence:
‘Lamech said to his wives:
‘“Adah and Zillah, hear my voice;
you wives of Lamech, listen to what I say:
I have killed a man for wounding me,
a young man for striking me.
If Cain’s revenge is sevenfold,
then Lamech’s is seventy-sevenfold.”’
Ignorant people seize upon a statement of Jesus to validate their infatuation with weapons:
“And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.”
The conclusion that he was urging his disciples to defend themselves with weapons is manifestly absurd. When they said they had two swords, he said: “It is enough.” If he’d been talking about self-defense, two swords would hardly have been enough for 11 men to defend themselves.
This was the same Jesus who told them “But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.” He hadn’t changed his mind.
They needed to have swords, as he went on to say in his next sentence: “For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’” Jesus was consciously fulfilling a prophecy of Isaiah. When his accusers accosted him in the Garden of Gethsemane, the swords in the possession of the apostles could be cited as evidence that he wasn’t a peaceful teacher but rather a revolutionary threatening the stability of the civil order.
That he didn’t want them using swords violently is crystal-clear in what happened next, when Peter drew his sword and cut off the ear of the High Priest’s servant: ‘Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.’ Then he healed the servant’s ear.
I mention all this to give the lie to rubbish equating the collection of guns with a supposed commandment of Jesus Christ. It’s obvious nonsense that makes a mockery of everything he said about nonviolence.
Back to the logistical possibility of disarmament.
What did Russia and the U.S. start doing when they signed nuclear disarmament agreements? They started destroying the weapons. Unfortunately, they stopped. Humans just can’t seem to do what’s best for their own good.
Logistically, the destruction of weapons is absolutely possible. But we have to want to, don’t we? Living in a world without nukes would certainly be safer. So would living in an America without guns. I’m confident any child can understand this. Especially, at this moment, any child in Uvalde.
To rid ourselves of guns, first we need to drastically increase the requirements for owning a gun. That alone would immediately reduce the number of new guns in circulation. Then a buyback program could be instituted.
You say “Law obeying citizens need to retain the same right of ownership.”
Why?
We certainly don’t need a “well regulated militia” of musket owners to defend this country. We have the most powerful military on earth for that, thank you very much.
As cited in the above comment, the University of Pennsylvania study showed that owning a gun makes you more likely to get shot. How is that a benefit? Additionally, the more guns there are around, the more will be stolen: more than 200,000 a year these days, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Getting rid of guns will make you a lot safer than owning one.
In Japan, hand guns are illegal. Hunters can purchase shotguns and air rifles, that’s it. If we had the same restrictions on types of weapons, then anyone possessing an illegal firearm would have the option of turning it in for payment, or going to jail if caught. Hunters could still hunt. But “gangstas” wouldn’t be running around with pistols, killing innocent kids caught in the crossfire of their criminal moronism.
Own a gun and make slain children a greater likelihood; or get rid of the gun and help save lives.
I’m afraid we both know what Americans will choose.
Here endeth the diatribe.
CALgoldenBears
Amen @finkployd
Gwynning
I meant no slight to your perspective, Fink. As I’ve stated before, I thoroughly and respectfully appreciate our perusings in baseball and beyond. It’d be wonderful to help solve the world’s problems with you over some brews at the ballpark. You sound fatalistic by the end here, though… and perhaps it is a foreshadowing on fruitless weapon collection if we use Cold War disarmament as a baseline. In other news, my Pads dumped a tough one to the Pirates. I guess Taylor Rogers is human after all… and we all make mistakes. Happy Memorial Day weekend to you and your family, enjoy the best of it all amigo!
Poster formerly known as . . .
Thanks, Gwynning. I wish the same to you and yours!
foppert
Wow. And you can show your kids your snarky internet contribution about a guy you obviously don’t know.
The guy lives and breaths improvement and aims to help similar minded people on that quest with a lifestyle website. I could think of less noble pursuits to be undertaking in your spare time. He also comes from an activist upbringing and in this particular case, is being true to himself in an intelligent non confrontational manner.
A big “yawn” to those who feel the need to be down on something that’s personally important to him and ultimately harmless to others.
Redwolves. You are just a big sook.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, Foppert, you may buy it, I don’t until I see action. I’m all for calling this out for what it is. It’s a disgrace. It’s a bigger disgrace that everybody isn’t saying something about it. My point is about his chosen course of action. What does “lives and breathes improvement” mean?
If you read the context of my paragraph, and the one below, you’ll see that I take NO issue with him addressing this, at all. I think more people should because I don’t think this is political, it transcends politics. I take issue with the lame manner in which he chose to address it. To whom much is given, much is expected. Activism? Okay, fine. But avoiding a National Anthem really doesn’t do anything. It’s old hat, imo. It’s worn out. Make a difference, a real difference. He could mobilize players, other managers – we are talking tens of millions of dollars just from his inner circle.
I want to see more from him. And the reference about his family & their safety is: If he were in TX, or his kids at a school near there, he would probably feel that skipping an Anthem or two was insufficient to address the problem. So, he took his stance publicly, therefore I may assess his response publicly. If you feel it was snarky, that wasn’t my intent. I think people use these incidents for their own personal gain and that grinds on my nerves. So, my apologies if I came off the wrong way. I am also under the weather, so probably not the best frame of mind. I hope you understand my perspective, as curt as it may have been.
foppert
Ok.
Kapler lives by the ethos of spending his time on this earth trying to be better than he was the day before. Physically and mentally. Its what he does personally, and from the outside looking in, it’s what he expects from his team. Frankly speaking, it’s an awesome attitude and a great approach to life. The man leads.
Avoiding the anthem is a personal response with a rationale that has come from his upbringing and his father. It’s in his blog. At a minimum, i suppose the wider, non personal effect is that it might provoke discussion. From little things, big things grow.
Get well soon.
Yankee Clipper
Okay, that makes sense. I love that ethos, man. Hopefully it will provoke more discussion, although it’s sad it has to. In years past something like this would’ve stopped the country in its tracks.
Thank you. I appreciate it. I’ll try, maybe I won’t be so ornery if I get some rest…. Ugh.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Expressing his opinion about the repeated mass murders of school children and managing his team aren’t mutually exclusive concerns.
You keep opining that people shouldn’t exercise their right to express grievances against the government, a right guaranteed in the First Amendment to the Constitution.
Why do you suppose that right made it’s way into the very first amendment to that document?
Your ideas seem not to have much in common with the thinking of the men who founded this nation.
Yankee Clipper
Also, Redwolves, I don’t take that as expression of a political view. Now, I’d like to see actual action on Kapler’s part because I think the whole National Anthem protest thing is just played out….. but how is it political?
I think assigning this political categories actually devalues this entire scenario, & the evil person that took this action. I understand it is inextricably linked to politics, but this transcends politics. I don’t take Kapler’s stance as a political one as much as I take it a cultural statement – but I am weird and that just may be me.
Again, he has the platform, the money & the resources to actually do something instead of the stale athlete-Anthem-protest thing.
Pete'sView
YankeeClipper — I am often in agreement on the things you say. But on Kapler, no.
Yankee Clipper
Fair enough. Where do you differ? I respect your opinion, where am I wrong – I’ll listen, man (maybe read is a better adjective). Hit me, Pete…
Yankee Clipper
Hey Pete, I was serious, brother, about what you observed. I wasn’t sure which part of My Kapler judgment you disagreed with (cause I wrote a lot). But, upon reflection (and rest), I’m not being objective. The situation discussed hits much closer to home for me, and draws on a lot of emotions, so I did respond more emotionally, instead of objectively, as I should.
Nonetheless, even though I recognize areas where I was clearly mistaken, and too jaded from personal experiences, I would like to see what you had to say as well because I do respect your opinion. I wasn’t being a wiseass by asking. I don’t know enough about Kapler to make the conclusion about his initial action being his end-goal, like I did. Mea culpa.
My apologies to Foppert too for a jaded & contrarian response because it wasn’t necessary. It was the emergence of my inner Tommy Pham.
billysbballz
So let’s understand mlb here:
They suspend Josh Donaldson for calling him Javkie, a name Tim Anderson referred to himself and JD gets 1 game! Nothing racially motivated there at all, pure trash talk and both players have a history of drama.
Now MLb suspends Pham only 3 games for walking up to another player during batting practice and b**tch slapping him! Pretty much assaulting him over fantasy football rules!
3 game suspension people! 3 games only!
Is there something I’m missing?????
MLB is a huge woke joke!
So one player
PutPeteinthehall
Farhan another smooth move. Signs Joc to replace Bryant.
seaver41
Fantasy football is bad- even Tommy Pham can figure it out
66TheNumberOfTheBest
The absurdly trivial nature of this story makes it amusing, but it’s indicative of some real issues.
Pham is trending towards a Junior Seau outcome if he doesn’t get help.
luckyh
What is up with guys slapping each other? I’ve never seen that in my life. Is it now a thing, or have I just missed it my whole life, like my not knowing cars drive into buildings daily before the internet existed.
brucenewton
Joc comes across as a good guy.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Agreed. As athletes go, he’s world-class gonzo. That thing with the pearls was hilarious.
Yankee Clipper
He also has a disabled brother. I’m sure he’s had to endure his share of imbeciles growing up, & he understands what a blessing his brother is for him & his family. He seems like a really grounded guy who just tries to enjoy life for the obvious reasons.
Poster formerly known as . . .
like brucenewton said, he comes across as a good guy. Two World Championship rings, too.
toystory3wasokay
Pham is trying to get a trade, it would be funny if he got sent to Baltimore
AgentF
In the 70s, the league would have suspended him for three days for slapping and would have had a good laugh. If he has just punched him, nothing would have happened.
octavian8
Simply put, if I was in a fantasy league and thought cheating was occurring I would find another league or give it up. Getting myself suspended sure doesn’t cure the problem.
Redwolves3
Thank you Tony LaRussa: “Chicago White Sox manager Tony La Russa said Saturday that he does not agree with the decision of San Francisco Giants manager Gabe Kapler to protest the national anthem in the wake of a school shooting in Texas that left 21 victims dead.
“I think he’s exactly right to be concerned…with what’s happening in our country,” La Russa said Saturday evening, ESPN reported. “He’s right there. Where I disagree is the flag and the anthem are not appropriate places to try to voice your objections.”
Poster formerly known as . . .
‘Several of Gabe Kapler’s fellow managers are offering their support for his decision to avoid the field during the national anthem as a protest following the school shootings in southwestern Texas.
‘Nineteen children and two teachers were killed at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday. The attack occurred just 10 days after a gunman espousing racist hatred killed 10 Black people at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York.
”Texas Rangers manager Chris Woodward said Kapler’s action was “brave.”
”“I think we’re all frustrated, especially in this country,” Woodward said. “Nobody’s happy. It’s not about which side you’re on. It’s just we’ve got to get better as a society. … I’m not going to really make comment either way on whether I would or wouldn’t do what he did.”
‘Boston Red Sox manager Alex Cora said Kapler, his former teammate, has been vocal about several subjects and “for that, I’m proud of him. He’s a good friend of mine and the kind of guy I respect from afar for what he’s doing, and if this is what he’s doing, good for him. I understand his reasons. He was very open about it and I know there’s a lot of people that are going to support him.”
‘New York Mets manager Buck Showalter also said he respected “how Gabe feels and the way he’s going about it.” Asked about Kapler, Philadelphia manager Joe Girardi responded: “That’s Gabe’s decision. That’s all, I’m going to leave it at that.”
‘Washington Nationals manager Dave Martinez said he’s rarely on the field for the anthem because of meetings and other pregame prep.
‘“If I’m not out there it’s not because I’m boycotting anything,” Martinez said. “But I do believe that we need to figure something that’s better for everybody’s lives because what we have now is not working at all.
‘“Everybody has their own views and preferences. … Gabe’s his own person and Gabe does what he wants to do. I do things differently than Gabe.”
‘Arizona manager Torey Lovullo called Kapler “a humanitarian,” and that he was “very supportive of what Gabe is doing.” But Lovullo said he tries “not to get involved in that arena. It’s a very, very sad and touchy subject for me.”
‘Lovullo’s wife and his father’s family are from Buffalo.
‘“So I do have a lot of thoughts on it, and I will say that things have to stop, things have got to get better,” he said. “I just hope we’ll move in that direction quickly.”
‘Los Angeles Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said Kapler “is very passionate about things he believes in and that’s his way of protesting. … I don’t think any of us are happy with what’s going on in our country. I do respect people using whatever platforms they have to address that.”
bit.ly/3z3eGXp
Poster formerly known as . . .
Redwolves, the descent into flag-worship in this country is not only idolatrous, but it’s being used as a tool of indoctrination to a level of absurdity.
After 9/11, no politician dared be seen in public without a cheap little flag pin on his lapel (probably made in China).
Politicians of both parties compete to have the most flags onstage behind them at public appearances, as if more flags means you’re more patriotic. It’s performance art and it’s idiotic.
Do you know there’s a flag code in U.S. law that’s routinely violated?
4 U.S. Code § 8 – Respect for flag
“(b)The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
“(c)The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.”
“Should never touch . . . the ground. Should never be carried flat or horizontally”
You’ve never seen a gigantic American flag stretched out horizontally across a playing field in a baseball or football stadium, clearly touching the ground? I have, many times.
“(g)The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.”
Have you never seen “Trump flags” with his name and/or his seditious mug pasted over the Stars and Stripes? If not, here you go:
bit.ly/3N1woyG
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Violations of law, every one.
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“I didn’t like the sketchy shit going on in the fantasy league. We’ve got too much money on the line…” – Tommy Pham
Isn’t sports gambling prohibited in the MLB? Is this not admission to gambling?