11:46am: The Padres are likely to finalize a deal with Canó tomorrow, tweets Dennis Lin of the Athletic. San Diego already has a vacancy on the 40-man roster, so they’d only need to make a corresponding 26-man transaction.
11:07am: The Padres are closing in on a deal with Robinson Canó, reports Jon Heyman of the New York Post (Twitter link). Heyman’s colleague, Joel Sherman, reports (on Twitter) that San Diego is among a handful of teams that has expressed interest. According to Sherman, the eight-time All-Star is likely to sign a major league contract.
Canó was released by the Mets last week. New York had designated him for assignment on May 2, the date for teams to cut their active rosters from 28 to 26 players. Canó had started just under half the Mets’ games through the season’s first month, splitting his time roughly evenly between second base and designated hitter. He’d gotten off to a difficult start, however, hitting just .195/.233/.268 through his first 43 plate appearances.
The 17-year MLB veteran showed some worrisome statistical indicators beyond just the poor results. He made contact on a personal-low 73% of swings, a few points below this season’s league average. Canó also chased nearly half the pitches he was thrown outside the strike zone and hit more than 55% of his batted balls on the ground. At age 39 and coming off a full 2021 season lost to a second career suspension for performance-enhancing drugs, the Mets decided those early numbers were reason enough to move on.
One could also take the more optimistic view that Canó was merely shaking off some rust after the long layoff. A 12-game showing is an incredibly small sample off which to base any definitive conclusions — even regarding the elevated swing-and-miss and chase numbers. When Canó was last eligible to play before this year, he performed quite well. In 182 plate appearances during the shortened 2020 campaign, he hit .316/.352/.544 with ten home runs. That was the second of three seasons between 2018-20 in which Canó posted well above-average offensive production.
Of course, few players have matched Canó’s performance since he entered the league. He’s a five-time Silver Slugger Award winner and has finished in the top ten of MVP balloting six times in his career. Were it not for his pair of PED suspensions, he’d be a virtual lock for eventual enshrinement in the Hall of Fame. There’s little question Canó’s days as that kind of superstar are behind him, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility he could still be a useful hitter, particularly against right-handed pitching.
The Padres evidently believe that to be the case. San Diego has gotten incredible production from Manny Machado and Eric Hosmer in the season’s early going. Ha-Seong Kim, Jurickson Profar and Luke Voit each have unimpressive batting averages, but their combination of power output and (particularly in Voit’s case) huge walk numbers have propped up their overall performances. The rest of the lineup has struggled to varying degrees, and San Diego’s overall .227/.320/.364 team slash line is middle-of-the-pack.
The Friars are looking for affordable ways to bolster the offense. If they believe Canó is still an above-average hitter, there’s reason to roll the dice. The Mets remain on the hook for almost all of the $37.6MM still owed to Canó over the next two seasons under the terms of his original ten-year contract with the Mariners. If a deal were to get across the finish line, San Diego would owe him only the prorated portion of the $700K league minimum salary. That’s of particular import with the Friars just narrowly below the $230MM base luxury tax threshold, which they don’t appear eager to exceed.
Canó wouldn’t be a regular anywhere on the diamond for the Padres. Hosmer is a lock to hold onto first base so long as he’s hitting at this level, and Jake Cronenworth has second base accounted for. The right-handed hitting Voit is the primary designated hitter and figures to remain so, but Canó could spell him on occasion against righty starters while serving as a depth option on the right side of the infield.
Milwaukee-2208
Prellar doesn’t have a clue
Ancient Pistol
It’s starting to look that way.
Deleted Userr
“Starting”
jacknbd
And David Stearns gave a massive extension to someone with degenerative back problems.
Milwaukee-2208
Yet we are in first. Funny how that works huh
Thanks for Lauer and Urias btw. Great trade Prellar
cards81
you’re in first because you have only played the pirates and reds for most of the season…What teams have the Brewers played that are over .500?
Gwynning
Zach Davies 7Ws, 4Ls with a 2.73 ERA as a Padre before being flipped for an ace in Yu. Grish playing for a 2nd Gold Glove soon… isn’t this a win/win trade and isn’t that what we were both hoping for? Lay of the Haderade, Milli!
Larry Brown's crank
I just happened by….had no idea there was a padre/ brewer g.m. rivalry! Interesting!
Gwynning
*off (still can’t edit on the app)
Stormintazz
and Cubs
rct
Brewers have only played 8 games against teams over .500 and are 3-5 in those games.
Bmaister
I love the “We’s” and “Us’s”. YOU are not in first place, you’re not on the team
LordShade
Darvish didn’t look like much of an ace in the second half.
flamingbagofpoop
Zach Davies being flipped for an Ace in Yu…yikes, that’s got to be some of the worst homer revisionist history I’ve seen on here.
DrDan75
@bmaister
Yep, and as fans we also have zero control over what the owners, GM’s and managers do with “our team.” So just enjoy the game and don’t worry too much about wins and losses.
outinleftfield
With the same record as the Padres and look at the scrubs the Brewers have played.
DrDan75
@Milwaukee
What, no thank you for Caratini?
Gwynning
@Shade – Yu suffered 2 different injuries in the 2nd half last year, a hip and back ailment. He was an ace for the first half of last year and even earned an All Star berth. This season he looks good as well; zero bad pitches last start but he did give up a homer that was golfed from the below the zone. We’re very happy with Yu even at the expense of Lauer. Happy for the Brew Crew, as well.
stymeedone
Yet, you would hold it against them if they lost to the scrubs. Doing what you should do against the scrubs is a good thing.
Divebomber81
True hardcore fans take ownership of their teams and internalize it. Get with the program.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Uhmmm, Davies was not “flipped” for an ace. Davrish was “purchased” from the Cubs by taking on his large salary and Davies was thrown into the deal.
Urias has a decent bay for an infielder, Grisham has looked weak at the plate since the baseballs were modified.
I think the Brewers won that trade by points, but there is still a chance that Grisham will adapt.
Let me make it clear, I am not saying that I knew that was a bad trade at the time. I am just saying that now, with hindsight, I would say the Brewers came out ahead.
Deleted Userr
Davies wasn’t the only player the Cubs got for Darvish
Gwynning
We all know the trade or can look it up. Perhaps I could ammend my statement to say that Davies was included (along with a couple teenagers) in a flip for Yu. The main, salient point stands though. Davies was flipped, with pieces, for Yu. Opinions on who “won” the trade is moot until all players are retired. (Same thesis applies to ALL trades.)
hockiechick
We?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Again, Darvish was a salary dump by the Cubs. I have nothing bad to say about the Cubs, Padres or Brewers. But it was a salary dump and Yu know it.
Gwynning
Yes, all us readers… (a.k.a. “we”)… can look up the trade if WE don’t actually remember it, HockieChick.
Gwynning
Whatever the Cubs’ motivation was, Davies was included in a trade for Yu. Are we really dissecting semantics here when we both seem to agree to the principle, Manny? If we are, how do you want me to better explain it all?
davidk1979
Yelich has been good this year very good
outinleftfield
Not sure you can call .259 with an .838 OPS very good. Its better than average for sure..
hockiechick
Give him time.
mrnotsoniceguy
And Preller gave a massive deal to a kid who enjoys getting into dirt bike accidents
llokokokok
That kid is better than anyone on your team and probably will outperform anyone on your team for the entirety of that “massive deal”…
flamingbagofpoop
Are you not counting 2021? He was already outperformed by Corbin Burnes according to fWAR.
That said…entirety of the remaining years, I doubt; however majority of it? If he can stay healthy, pretty good chance.
llokokokok
Comparing a pitcher and a batter really doesn’t make sense but ok Burnes and Ohtani were the only people that beat him in that specific stat. He’s also a career 153 wRC+ player at only age 23.
flamingbagofpoop
I’m replying to your claim, so if comparing him to pitchers doesn’t make sense, why did you say anyone?
The rest of your post is irrelevant to anything I said. As I mentioned, I’d agree that he’ll likely outperform anyone on the brewers for the majority of his contract, if he can stay healthy. However over the course of 12-13 years, depending on whether you want to count this one, it wouldn’t be surprising if some player on the Brewers manages to outperform him.
kcusgnikcufsregdod
how when he’s constantly injured sweetie?
llokokokok
@flamingbagofpoop
Because anyone with even 1 brain cell would be able to understand comparing apples to oranges doesn’t make sense…
I would bet Tatis outperforms every batter on the Brewers even this year where he misses 1/2 the year…
Brew88
@mrnotsonice. The contract with Tatis is a complete steal by Pads. They’re paying $26 mil a year for 7-10 WAR per year, top 5 player in league, likely HOFer, and filling the ballpark due to his immense popularity. By contrast, Texas just signed Seager, for 10 years $33 mil a year. Correa just signed for $35 mil a year. Brilliant move by Preller and ownership.
stymeedone
…when healthy. There. Fixed it for you.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Fernando Tatis, Jr. is a top ten player in MLB. The contract was high risk, high reward and the majority of MLB owners would be more than willing to assume that contract and even throw in a couple top prospects for that honor.
Tatis is young and hopefully his maturity will rise to his talent. If healthy, Tatis has a chance not to be top 10, but top two to three in MLB.
el rey
He can’t find his culo with both hands.
dadofdonnydownvote
Evidently the Padres are desperate.
Deleted Userr
Who’s Prellar?
Milwaukee-2208
*Preller
Prellar or Preller he’s still trash
Oh Boy Here We Go
Doesn’t Stearns have the same number of championships as Preller does since being hired?
They’ve been in their positions for 5+ years already.
Stearns was hired September 21st 2015
Preller was hired August 6th 2014
Deleted Userr
@Oh Boy Here We Go How many times has each team made the playoffs under their respective current regimes?
Oh Boy Here We Go
Goal is just to make the playoffs? Man setting the bar really low if thats your claim to fame and what you celebrate. Congrats on getting worse draft position? Whats the prize for losing in the playoffs?
Deleted Userr
As shown with the Braves last year and the Giants in 2010, 2012 and 2014, often times, winning the WS is simply a matter of being good enough to make the postseason and then getting hot at exactly the right time in exactly the right way.
Oh Boy Here We Go
K. So Brewers have 0 championships under Stearns and Padres have 0 championships under Preller. Idk how what you said changes that fact. The Brewers didn’t win it all when they did make the playoffs.
justkidding
I would much rather have Milwaukees last 5 years than San Diego’s and have much more faith in Stearns than Preller. Not a fan of either team. Enjoy those better draft slots.
Oh Boy Here We Go
Thats fine. End of the day neither Stearns or Preller have won any championships. They wound up in the same place at end of the season. Like saying you prefer McDonalds cheeseburgers to Burger King cheeseburgers while other teams are discussing Rib Eye vs. Prime Rib
brewsingblue82
If we’re getting THAT picky on discussion of comparing how they’ve done respectively, only 8 teams during Stearns and Preller’s tenures are discussing Steak/Ribs over McD’s/BK, because as you said, it only matters if they win. Meaning the teams that lose the World Series don’t count either. That leaves the other 20 teams that aren’t the Brewers and Padres also apparently taking the fast food debate, not “every” other team as you imply.
But also, making it to the playoffs IS the most important first step. After that, any team, Braves last year proving it, that gets hot at just the right time, can win it. Thus, Stearns track record is technically better. Even if someone wants to argue that the Padres have to battle the Giants and the Dodgers, the Brewers have to battle the Cardinals who are always a threat in the central, plus after that point, if they don’t take the division, they have to battle the field as well.
But the bottom line is, getting to the playoffs is an important factor in determining a teams structure, as it doesn’t matter how hot you play in October if you’re not on a team that plays in October.
Oh Boy Here We Go
Yes. A lot of teams are discussing fast food instead of gourmet food.
FYI- Other isnt a number. I never specified how many other teams were discussing rib eyes vs prime rib. Just that there are other teams discussing rib eyes vs prime rib. Which there are.
So whats the prize for losing in October brewsingblue82? A lot of people seem to be celebrating losing in October like there’s some kind of grand prize.
Ricky Bobby said it best. If you ain’t first you’re last.
Jean Matrac
brewsingblue82:
Good post. I’d even say that just being competitive is enough of a yardstick. Preller’s teams have finished in last place in the division 3 times. As a fan, even if my team doesn’t make the playoffs, it’s a lot better if they’re in it for most of the season, than to have to wait out a season in last place. I’m neither a Brewers, nor a Padres fan, but I’d rather be a fan of the Brewers based on each team’s performance.
Javia135
You can blame that one on Donald Trump. When the president serves McDonalds at the White House, you have to forgive people for thinking that McDonalds is gourmet.
flamingbagofpoop
I don’t think most people’s thoughts are as swayed by the actions of others as yours appear to be.
DrDan75
The Padres and Brewers are pretty similar teams. If they were to switch divisions, the Padres would stand a good chance of winning the NL central every year while the Brewers would be perpetually staring up at the Dodgers.
Javia135
Exactly what actions have I taken flamingopoop? I have never served McDonalds at an official function. Relax.
Oh Boy Here We Go
Didnt Trump pay for that out of his own pocket because the government was shut down?
Seems rather stupid to complain about what he purchased for other people with his own money.
People like Javia and politicians are always generous with other people’s money though.
Elizabeth Warren can complain and whine about how Elon Musk should spend 40+ billion to end world hunger and then immediately votes to send 40 billion to Ukraine instead of ending world hunger.
deseret.com/2019/1/15/20663409/trump-pays-for-mcdo…
Oh Boy Here We Go
WAHHHHHHH Trump paid to have McDonalds catered with his own money WAHHHHHHH. Oh no the horror. Youll survive.
Cosmo2
Never in my entire life has a sitting president’s menu choices influenced my opinion of what is “gourmet”. You must run with a pretty odd crowd, Javia
Javia135
It’s a joke people. No need to get emotional. Free speech and all.
VegasSDfan
I believe the Padres have made the playoffs once since 2015?
Mets?
Javia135
Take it from Ted Cruz Cosmo2, there is no reason to get angry just because someone insulted your wife. 🙂
flamingbagofpoop
You should spend more time actually reading what people said and less time upvoting your own posts. Try again.
Cosmo2
It was an unnecessary political jab, not a joke at all.
Cosmo2
You see, you can pretend you’re joking but you’re really trolling politics on a baseball site. Pretty low character.
Javia135
You got rid of abortion, nor free speech yet. You still have work to do Cosmo.
Yankee Clipper
I have no dog in the fight but usually the first ones to throw out “fascism” and similar categorizations are the ones more closely aligned with fascists. They do this for the sole purpose of shutting down any opinion/facts from the opposing viewpoint & attempting to reduce their credibility.
Javia135
Or it could just be someone with a differing opinion that has you saying “I know you are but what am I.”
Javia135
You are allowed your opinion. So am I.
Javia135
I made a joke. I do not wish do have a political discussion on mlbtr. I doubt anyone else does either. So how about we all walk away, huh?
SDHotDawg
I have yet to meet someone of your ilk who has the education to actually provide a working definition of “fascism.”
Javia135
“Someone of your ilk.” Wow! Seriously? Now you can see why I don’t want to talk politics here.
Who exactly are my ilk SDHotDawg?
Cosmo2
Dude, you. are. nuts.
brewsingblue82
The difference though, is that playing October baseball gives you the chance to win the World Series. You rarely know who’s going to for sure win it all until it’s over. Point being, that getting your team to October holds significance because you’re not going to win it by not making the playoffs to begin with.
And as funny of a movie as talladega nights is, I don’t think anyone should be referencing anything Ricky Bobby says as any kind of honest truth
When you actually PLAY October baseball, your chances of winning the World Series are greatly increased. When you avoid the wild card spot, it’s even further increased because you avoided a single game elimination. Now that part is changing, but even still, winning the division increases your odds.
So saying that they’re equal just because of them both lacking World Series wins is severely lacking, because one of them still has gotten their team much closer. They’ve also done so by spending A LOT less. Manny Machado and Eric Hosmer alone pretty much equals close to half of the brewers payroll. That also give Stearns a notch over Preller. It basically says Preller struggles to both form a team organically and even when having a strong checkbook to assemble a team.
I’d take an exec who can assemble a perennial playoff contender over an exec who has struggled to make much of a track record even with the payroll to do so.
CleaverGreene
Working definition? how about examples will that worK? lol
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Calling someone trash is rather low brow.
Preller is neither a good nor a bad GM. He is middle of the road. I do not agree with several team choices to acquire high-priced injury-risk starting pitchers and depleting the prospects while so doing.
The Machado and Tatis signings were both A+ deals. Acquiring Tatis in the first instance was incredible. But spending money for Snell and Clevinger and giving up so many prospects leaves the team with no flexibility.
The Hosmer deal was rightly panned, but kudos to Eric this year, he could have taken his paycheck and laughed, but he is still playing for pride.
Jean Matrac
Manny:
Agree with much you say, but I’d give Preller maybe a B+ on acquiring Tatis. He wasn’t that highly regarded a prospect when the trade was made.
I know prospects lists are irrelevant, more for the fans, since teams have their own evaluations of players. But just for reference Tatis wasn’t a top 100 prospect in 2016 when the trade was made.
According to Fangraphs, when he joined the Padres, he became their 6th ranked prospect with a FV of 50. That’s a nice FV but doesn’t say future superstar.
SDHotDawg
@Tad2B … By any objective standard, Tatis was that rare lottery ticket that paid off. To claim otherwise is purely looking at it through the lens of hindsight.
dugmet
It may be for his clubhouse leadership especially with Spanish-speaking players — one reason the Mets might have valued him especially with Amed Rosario kind of on the cusp of reaching his potential or not. In hindsight that wasn’t a very good reason though given the PED problem. I don’t know the Padres roster so… maybe this is how the Padres believe Cano can help them — in the clubhouse. You tell me.
99socalfrc
Clubhouse leadership? You have Manny Machado, Tatis Jr. and Eric Hosmer in the clubhouse, also some guy named Bob Melvin. Matt Williams and Mike Schildt are also on the coaching staff, and people think Ronison Cano is needed for Clubhouse leadership? Get a grip people.
flamingbagofpoop
Regardless of who else is there…leadership? The dude was busted for peds twice.
SDHotDawg
@99socal … Tatis proved last year that hi is NOT a “clubhouse leader.”
Cosmo2
He’s young. Hopefully he matures.
SDHotDawg
@Cosmo … I think that is what most of us are hoping for.
damascusj
Who cares, you only have to pay league minimum so why not take a chance?
Canosucks
Prellar is Rewarding a Cheater; I hope the Friars wind up in the cellar.
Maybe cano can get nailed for a third time!
CrikesAlready
Another drug suspension raises a question I presume will fall in the benefit of the New York Mets…
If he is hit with another drug suspension, I would presume that the club paying his salary would be relieved of that expense. So, if he’s on the roster of another team but the Mets are still paying for the contract, would it be correct to presume that his suspension would alleviate the Mets burden?
Richard Alicea
Absolutely, he would forfeit whatever money is owed during the life ban, because his next punishment is banishment. He’s not risking his last two years of pay to try and generate offense juicing up. With that said we got rid of him because aside from being a cheat, he can’t hit a lick without his juice and is flawed defensively. In addition, he’s lazy as hell, not running the bases when he hits the ball for an out. Mister “No Hussle” is now with Padres, good luck with him.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
You are not rewarding a cheater. Cano gets paid no matter what. The Mariners rewarded Cano. The Padres are just giving Cano a chance to have to work for the money he will already get.
That being said, Voit is a better hitter than Cano at this juncture, and Cronenwerth is light years better, so I do not see many at-bats for Cano. Does Cano play 2B some days and Jake goes to the outfield? Maybe. Cano experiment will not last long. Not as embarrassing as the Arrieta experiment. With all due respect to Arrieta because he will will always be a part of Cubs’ history, but the Padres had to have someone in A ball who gave them a better chance than Arrieta.
Javia135
@Milwaukee-2208
You sound like the kind of guy who yells at his kid for an hour and grounds him for a month for wasting a nickel(or league minimum) on a vending-machine toy! If you would have just kept your mouth shut that toy could have kept your kid quiet for an hour(worth far more than a nickel). Relax. It’s league minimum.
towinagain
Can’t figure out why Brewers fans have a bone to pick with Padres fans. Brewers have had more success, yes. Pads have signed high profile and larger contracts which hasn’t worked yet but still solid building blocks in place. Both have to face the Cards and Bums in their divisions. Both are scrappy teams fighting for everything they have. If anything Brewers and Padres fans should support each other. What do I know though.
Bart Harley Jarvis
At first glance, I thought this was an article from The Onion.
outinleftfield
He picked up a guy for the minimum that is hitting better than 4 players that are getting regular playing time for the Padres and he doesn’t have a clue? Not sure in what world that is true, but certainly not in this one. This is a no risk move for the Padres. If Cano hits, then when Tatis comes back they jettison someone else that is not hitting. If he doesn’t hit, when Tatis returns they jettison Cano.
GarryHarris
I’m truth, the Padres have little to lose by giving Robinson Cano a tryout.
SDHotDawg
Tacitly condoning cheating is not ok. But we already know about Preller’s lack of integrity and ethics.
Deleted Userr
“Integrity and ethics” were the excuses people used when he put Tatis and Paddack in the roster to start 2019.
SDHotDawg
What? That made no sense.
Stormintazz
Have money, will spend it.
RunDMC
How far to Balco? Only needs one more strike until permanent suspension.
Javia135
Tijuana is just down the 5 freeway. No BALCO needed.
lloyd_christmas
Just when I think you couldn’t be possibly be any dumber, you go ahead and do something like this…
rct
… AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!
dirkg
AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF! LOL. Great post.
(rct, I posted same time as you and you even capped it. love it, ha)
gmenfan
Over/under on how long until we read “Padres DFA Robinson Cano” ?
keysox
All-Star break. Hitting .156 good bye
JudgementDay
Well that .155 still beats Beaty 2x with his 0.78 batting average and nothing is owed to him except minimal pay. The Mets are still on the line with the remaining 37mil. Can’t hurt to sign him.
laswagn
Is that really where Beaty is at? My goodness, the Dodgers sure know how to bring out the best in players. I was thinking it was a mistake for them to trade Beaty to a division rival.
vtadave
People thought that?
Yankee Clipper
2 weeks?
Pads Fans
3-4 weeks when Tatis returns.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Cano is cut on the day Tatis returns.
Gwynning
Seems like he’s worth a look at minimum wage, we just need the MI depth until Junior gets back soon.
Dunk Dunkington
only league minimum but was the Padres farm so deep and loaded with talent just 2 years ago? now here they are signing washed up players in hope of catching lighting in the bottle instead.
Gwynning
Looks like we’d rather commit to a veteran for part-time and temporary duty instead of rushing a prospect. Sorry?
etex211
When Padres ownership finally gets around to firing Preller, that organization will be left in complete ruins.
damascusj
Yeah, and this league minimum deal for a multiple time all star and batting leader will be the nail in his coffin, let me tell you what!
flamingbagofpoop
Why do people pretend that his past accomplishments have anything to do with the player that the padres are currently signing? Unless you have a time machine, that’s pretty irrelevant.
Deleted Userr
The part about his past accomplishments was pretty irrelevant. But the part about the Padres paying him the league minimum is very relevant.
Pads Fans
Your name is apropos. Cano is playing for the minimum and he was hitting better than at least 4 players that are regulars on the Padres. Where is the risk in this deal?
flamingbagofpoop
If you are replying to me, where did I say anything about risk? If you have to rely on a strawman to make your argument, it’s a bad argument.
SDHotDawg
@etex211 … that’s a prediction I’ve been making for over 3 years. I really fear it will come to bear.
Cohn Joppolella
YES!!!!!!!!!
roob
Why?
mrnotsoniceguy
lol padres
Deleted Userr
PTWSTN?
pinstripes17
LOL
amk1920
Rockstar GM had to sign Arrieta and Cano in back to back seasons. Fantastic roster construction, AJ!
VegasSDfan
I was thinking about Arietta as well. We signed any pitcher that could start a game last year.
It was sad for sure.
flamingbagofpoop
They need more Bartolo.
SDHotDawg
Don’t forget Vasquez!
ArianaGrandSlam
He won’t pass the urine test.
sufferforsnakes
Juicer needs to start juicing again. Otherwise, he’s worthless.
User 3663041837
Y doe….
damascusj
Half the team is batting under .200 why not pay league minimum on a player who has, in the past, totally raked? Very low risk, high reward
SDHotDawg
Because he’s a cheating juicer who got caught twice in less than three years.
VonPurpleHayes
Most people are going to bash this move, but they’re liking paying him very little. He’s an unlikable cheater, but on the cheap he can help the Pads.
Milwaukee-2208
I’m sure it’s a 3/110
CNichols
@Milwaukee that’s not how signing released players works. SD pays him league minimum and NYM pays the remainder of his contract.
BigFootsFart
Help the Pads? Help them continue to basement of their division. Lol come on Purple. You know better
llokokokok
They are 1.5 games back of first place of the NL. If he doesn’t help them they can just drop him. If he sucks it won’t really be much different than the rest of the offense outside of Manny Machado and Eric Hosmer right now.
VonPurpleHayes
For league minimum he can contribute more than a lot of minor leaguers. There’s a big difference between what the Mets were paying him and what the Padres will pay.
DrDan75
@stefan
Padres are one of just five or six teams who have won 20 games at this juncture.
jgoody62
I have Jake Cronenworth in a dynasty league… this move brings me hope that he’ll play more around the diamond and continue being the versatile peace he’s been for me the last few years!
Jdt8312
I don’t know how they can say it’s “shaking off the rust” from a long layoff? He played in the Puerto Rican league while he was suspended for PED’s last year. I’m sure the Mets were monitoring his play down there. He looked terrible at the plate for the Mets this season. Completely lost at the plate. Swinging at garbage. Based on what I saw of him this year, I’d say he was done. Pads probably get him for minimum since he’s already being paid by the Mets, and Mariners for the rest of that contract. Might be worth a look at that rate, but it’s not going to be a long one.
Richard Alicea
@Jdt8312 He played in the Dominican league as he’s Dominican, and yes, he had just a couple of extra base hits, everything else was a single. This guy is done, he can’t hit a lick and took away many ABs from Dom Smith and JD Davis. Glad he’s gone, the Padres are paying league minimum for a statute on the bench because this guy is anemic offensively and doesn’t have it any longer defensively. I suspect the Padres will learn that in about 30 days of having him and they will also part ways with him.
Yankee Clipper
Seems like there are so many other players that can provide so much greater value, and are much younger, to the team that haven’t cheated. I don’t know, just seems like a bad move from the get-go, but it’s going to be pocket change for the team, so the flier won’t be an issue for them.
drasco036
Remember how highly touted that Padre farm was a few years ago?
Padre fans for some reason love Preller and refuse to accept the fact that he is a terrible GM. All you have to do is look at the “home grown” talent on their roster…. or lack there of. People mock Epstein about not being able to develop pitching yet under Preller, the Padres have not developed anything! Nearly that entire roster has been bought or traded for.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, that’s very true – he’s really touted their farm. Had a bunch of high-profile signings, really brought that team to the forefront of MLB, but doesn’t have anything to show for it but a huge commitment and no discernible future as of now. Their peak is right now & they’re not succeeding.
I could see them pursuing Judge, possibly, knowing Machado will likely opt out after ‘23.
I wasn’t too sure on Preller. I loved that he was so willing to go for it… but the results just haven’t proved effective.
I also despised Cashman’s approach & thought he set the team up to fail this year… he’s either the luckiest GM in the universe or he’s much smarter than the field.
Brew88
What would you have the Pads do, bring up a prospect and waste his development as a spot pinch hitter? Cano won’t start, but he might be a better PH option than Thompson or Azocar have been.
Gwynning
Well said Brew, plus Kim could sit against a tough RHer with Crone assuming SS and throw Cano at 2nd for a game.
Yankee Clipper
Hey, I mean, if you guys have that much confidence in his deflated bat, sure. But there’s nobody else that could fill Cano’s spot? Nobody less than 40, who isn’t reliant upon a needle in the butt just to get out of bed and brush his teeth?
I didn’t say a prospect, necessarily, but there are a variety of MLB players out there still. But, like I said, it’s worth the flier for them, obviously.
Gwynning
Hey Clip! I do find it semi-suspicious that we sign a cheater moments AFTER a homestand. I suppose we didn’t want his first boos in a Pad uni coming from the home crowd. Anyway, we just took a flier on Alcantara and I suppose the FO believes that Cano has just a little bit more left in the tank. We’re desperate for an offensive spark, and this signing is offensive to me!! All jokes aside, I’m not sure there are any other MI LHHers that would foot the bill for a few weeks better than Cano. I know this is highly debatable, hence the gathered crowd here, but I’m just playing a hunch here. As good as Ha-Seong is, he needs to sit and watch more when there’s a tough RHer on the mound. The Pads can now throw out a LH dominant line-up against those RHers. Does Cano have enough to spot start for a few weeks? We’re about to find out! Be good bro and grats on the Yanks fast start.
Brew88
@ Yankee C. Confidence? no, they are taking a flyer no doubt. They have 3 or 4 MI prospects (including Abrams) but at cost to their development. Profar could play MI, but right now the team needs him in OF, where he’s vying for a GG (no seriously).
They could sign a MI but not likely at league minimum to stay under $330 mil payroll threshold
This reminds me a bit of the Dodgers signing of Pujols last year. Everyone thought he was washed up, but he ended up contributing a bit. Maybe Cano can as well, and for peanuts there’s zero risk since they have the roster space
llokokokok
They’re not succeeding? Padres are 1.5 games behind the Dodgers for first place in the entire National League. What are you even saying?
I know you have no clue if you think Machado is opting out…
Deleted Userr
Only reason I could see Manny opting out is because Corey Seager got 10/$325m. No amount of spin doctoring will convince me that he deserved more than Manny did.
Brew88
Every star is looking at that meaty Seager contract. What $ will Soto demand?
VegasSDfan
I don’t see Machado opting out unless he has a monster year. He has a pretty good gig in San Diego.
Jean Matrac
So far Machado is having a monster season.
outinleftfield
More.
outinleftfield
Only 130 games to go
outinleftfield
2nd best record in the NL. Deepest starting rotation in baseball. When Tatis returns in 3 weeks they have 4 All Stars in the infield. Machado will not opt out. He will have 5 years and $160 million left on his deal, will be going into his age 31 season, and he has seen how FA treats players that are over 30 years old.
Pads Fans
3rd best
drasco036
I would have the padres actually develop players if it were m considering their farm system was supposed to be so elite Vs shelling out a ton of money and being forced to make a ton of trades because none of their talent is panning out.
Outside of Gore (this season mind you) no one they drafted or signed on the international level has made any type of impact on their roster.
Yankee Clipper
Brew88: Yeah, confidence probably the wrong terminology on my part. I guess it’ll be what it is. Like I said, it’s a flier worth the risk for the team, obviously. Pujols is very analogous & and excellent comp, PEDs being the only difference there… but, it could work, man. Cano was really talented at one point.
Yankee Clipper
Gwynning! Howdy, friend. Yeah, could work, man. I definitely see the point, just surprised I guess. It’s a flier, I get it. Maybe exactly what they need for their stopgap MIF for now. I do wish you well. I enjoy reading your posts, bro, especially the funny ones. Too many angry people on here……
Yankee Clipper
MannyistheMVP: So, with all Preller put into the team would you say his tenure has been defined thus far as a success? I’d say, by all accounts, no.
That’s what I meant. Not that they aren’t good. The Pads are a good, exciting, capable team. Just that for all he has done, I do understand those who criticize Preller (not that I am, as I noted above) because he spent much of the farm and over the budget compiling this team, which hasn’t succeeding to its intended goal….so far. I also noted it’s in its peak right now.
I wasn’t disparaging the team or Preller. Simply making an objective observation of fact. If you think he’s achieved success, I respect that and we can disagree. I think most Pads fans would consider an early playoff exit falling short, but I could be wrong. And, there’s still time…
Deleted Userr
@VegasSDfan Will depend on whether he and his agent think he can beat 5/$160m as a 31 y/o free agent with a QO attached (assuming they don’t do away with QO’s in the next few months). The sunshiners will hoot and holler about how he doesn’t want to leave SD but if he is producing at a level where teams would pay him more he will do exactly that.
Yankee Clipper
VegasSD: Not sure, man. That’s a boatload of money to leave on the table, but with the AAVs going up each year, he may feel he’s in a position to do better. He’s certainly one of the top players in MLB at his position, so I guess it’s a question of security for him because I think the money will be there regardless. It’ll be interesting as that time approaches. I wouldn’t leave SD if I were Machado though. Got to be one of the nicest places to play ball in the Majors.
llokokokok
thelegendaryharambe doesn’t know anything…Machado said just this week he wants to get a statue next to Tony Gwynn in San Diego. He isn’t going anywhere. This is why there is so much talk and speculation all the time about the padres because it’s the other team’s fans making things up…
Deleted Userr
Lol do I have to bookmark this? If Manny thinks he can get a single cent more in FA he GAWN!
Jean Matrac
It isn’t so much more money per year, he could probably get a year or two added on to his contract at the same AAV. I’m betting he does opt out. I certainly would assume he won’t.
SDHotDawg
Pujols is not a good comp. You seem to think steroids is an irrelevant difference. It’s not.
SDHotDawg
@YankeeC … there are some Padre fans who consider it blasphemy to criticize the “rock star” Preller. They are incapable of objectivity when it comes to him, and ignore the facts: 8 years with huge resources and one 77 win season.
Brew88
Dawg. The Pujols comparison was about baseball, but I guess you can’t get over the peds suspensions to see it.
SDHotDawg
Yes it was about baseball, but it was not based on a level playing field: i.e., PEDs vs. clean.
damascusj
This is the ultimate lotto ticket, league minimum for a former all-star and batting title winner. If he sucks, they can drop him no problem
outinleftfield
Yankee, Like who? Name one.
Yankee Clipper
Like who what? You want me to name “a player, under 40” who would’ve been available? There were several. Just go to the link on MLBTR for free agents and see all those players that were still available until recently and you’ll have a nicely delineated list.
If you think Cano is your guy, that’s cool too, man. Love it. Own it. But to deny there is anyone else is a bit extreme.
SDHotDawg
LOL! I love that, “Oh yeah! Name one!” argument. It’s a false argument.
jakec77
Why not? He’s going to cost the major league minimum, might as well take a look. He wasn’t awful in spring training from what I recall.
Makes you wonder if the Mets and Padres couldn’t have gotten more creative with the rumored trade Dom Smith for Hosmer, pitching, and cash.
BigFootsFart
Lol no that was a garbage trade proposal. Cano is done. He should have stayed on as a coach with the Mets. Don’t give any credit to Preller. He’s a trash GM
Robrock30
Sleepy Dom woke up for that Sunday Game just prior to Roster cuts when he was on the chopping block so Cano got Cut instead. Dom has returned to his stupor since. LOL
BigFootsFart
Ehhh not really. He’s still a very good defender and will hit more. Don’t talk shizz. Cano is garb
metsfan1992
Cano is washed. Dom sucks too but rather have younger guy on roster
Brew88
I’m sure the Mets (who are paying his monstrous salary) hope he’s washed too!
VonPurpleHayes
Dom needs to play every day, and the Mets roster doesn’t have room for him. They should’ve dealt him before the season because his value is doodoo, but this is a classic change of scenery case.
Robrock30
Robbie Cano, don’t ya know?
Good landing spot nice Team and City. I know it well the Gas Lamp District right by Coronado Island and the Hotel Del.
BigFootsFart
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BigFootsFart
This was funny enough to start laughing in spanish
cookmeister 2
wish your comment was just as funny as your thoughts
BigFootsFart
That was clever, neanderthal. Back to your cage now
RockTheBoat
Wow. Not only is that not funny, it’s racist, Don’tcha think, Arkansas?
BigFootsFart
It’s 100% not racist. I didn’t say anything racist. My fingers slipped and started pressing J instead of H. Stop trying to be a low IQ virtue signal plebian
flamingbagofpoop
No, the majority of the population isn’t racist, so they don’t look for racism in everything, like you.
RockTheBoat
You know, if I read that comment wrong then I apologize, especially in light of that keyboard slip. Sorry but it just seemed that you’d clean up the comment after realizing that slip, perhaps delete then re-add it, No worries.
RockTheBoat
Relax. My keyboard mistake I guess.
BaseballClassic1985
Robbie Cano is a bum. One of the best moves the Yankees ever made was letting this stiff leave.
ArianaGrandSlam
No they didn’t. They wanted him to stay for seven years. Instead Jacoby stayed for like three days.
Curveball1984
That’s what I remember. Cano purposely chose to go to Seattle.
beersy
Sad thing is, with those numbers, the Padres offense should improve!! Any way he can play CF? And I know the answer to that, but Grisham really needs to get things going with the bat.
Bill M
He’ll be spending lots of time on the bench. Part time DH at best. If he’s anywhere on the field, the Pads are in trouble
Crunchtime1969
Funny how the pinheads always criticize the Padres. No matter what. If the Dodgers we’re looking into Cano you idiots would be praising them. It’s early in the season but right now the bumbling Padres don’t look too bad. Even with very low offensive numbers. All you know it all haters out there keep on hating.
Moff_Nick
As a long suffering padres fan I’ll never understand all the preller hate, especially now when we’re only 1.5 games behind LA without tatis. Cano costs next to nothing and considering the woeful state of our bench atm its perfectly reasonable to kick the tires on him.
Brew88
Notice the haters here are all fans of ex-Cano teams. They overpaid (a bit more than the league min the Pads are paying)
Ryan W
Literally the lowest amount they could pay anyone. I don’t get it either, especially with the way both our starters and depth have scuffled. If they drop him by the all star break, can’t be any worse than the production we’ve had.
CNichols
It never ceases to amaze me how irrational people are about moves like this.
The Padres are going to pay slightly less to Cano than Alcantara who they just picked up off waivers. After it’s pro-rated it we’re talking about approximately $560K for Cano from the Padres and people are acting like SD just picked up a $100M tab.
SDHotDawg
@CNichols … So you like cheaters on your team? Like Preller?
Appalachian_Outlaw
I’m not a Padres fan. If I were, I wouldn’t be mad at this. I think you raise good points. They’re taking a flyer on a guy who will cost them peanuts in terms of ML salary. If it doesn’t work -and I don’t believe it will- they’re out almost nothing. They didn’t rush a kid to the Majors. They didn’t trade just for depth. They won’t even push past a tax barrier.
99socalfrc
Moff_Nick- “I don’t understand all the Preller Hate”
Also Moff_Nick- “Our bench is in a woeful state”
This basically sums up Padres fan love affair with Preller, insisting that he is a rockstar yet simultaneously acknowledging that parts of the team are a mess. Last year they were like “You can’t fire Preller he is awesome, it’s not his fault Jake Arietta and Vince Velasquez is all we got”. No it’s totally his fault, that is literally his job to make sure you don’t have Jake Arietta and Vince Velasquez starting games.
Moff_Nick
Literally every contending team has holes to fill every season. Further if the bench is the main issue then you’ve doing pretty alright.
flamingbagofpoop
I think there is plenty of reason to hate on Preller, this isn’t one of those reasons.
Fg-3
Smart move… I think he’s a better option than Voit
For Love of the Game
Damn! Tigers should have nabbed him. .195/.233/.268 would fit right in!
TonyGwynnSD19
Excellent Low risk high potential move. When Robby Cano is right , there isn’t a prettier swing from the left side
Canosucks
The only problem is when he is right he is juiced!
Simm
He will plays some 2b vs righties. Cronenworth will play short on those days. Probably gets some dh ab’s as well. If he hits at all it will help.
Really no risk here at all.
Once tatis is back he becomes a bench bat.
Brew88
I’m guessing that when Tatis returns they let Cano go, unless of course he REALLY produces
48-team MLB
This is the beginning of the Padres dynasty.
2022: Padres over Yankees
2023: Padres over White Sox
2025: Padres over Angels
2026: Padres over Yankees
2028: Padres over Red Sox
Gwynning
Your best post ever, bar none.
Brew88
That looks good to me! Even better, make it a west coast dynasty, Giants over Astros in 2024, Giants over Jays in 2027
48-team MLB
2024 and 2027 are both Atlanta titles. So is 2029.
Brew88
Actually I’m okay with that too 48. The Braves have been my 10 year-old son’s favorite team all his life, our family is really confused by this because we’re in CA. His favorite animal is a peregrine falcon and at age 4 he learned there was a sports team in Atlanta called the falcons but we’re a baseball family and so he adopted the Braves due to the falcon-association. Then he learned about Hank and Chipper and Maddux and took my bb cards of those guys.
He tried to go online this weekend to book tickets to Atlanta for the Padres v Braves series.
BigFootsFart
I hate you, 48 team. I really do
48-team MLB
No one cares. Maybe one day Arkansas will get a team called the Hellbenders. Until then, you are stuck with St. Louis or the probable Nashville Stars (boring name) franchise…or the potential New Orleans Gators franchise.
desertbull
What kind of “deal” do you need to work out?
The Padre’s pay league minimum and The Mets pick up the rest.
Gwynning
Need both parties to agree, hence “deal”
bobg529
It’s just a matter of time that no one will have to pay Cano any longer. Sooner or later he’ll get caught on steroids again and then his career and his paycheck will be toast.
48-team MLB
He must defeat all members of the Padres 40-man roster in one-on-one boxing matches first.
You Can Put It In The Books
Man, all the hate for the Padres seems misplaced. They’ve made some good moves, they’ve made some bad moves… just like EVERY team. The way I see it, they’re off to a 20-12 start, have the (early) NL MVP, one of the deepest pitching staffs in the league and they don’t even have their best player on the field yet.
If I’m a Padres fan, I’m perfectly content with my team.
Jean Matrac
It’s not so much hate for the Padres as it is for Preller. Yeah, every team’s GM/PBO makes both good and bad moves, but some make more of the latter, and I’d put Preller in that category. But I agree, if I were a Padre fan fan, I’d have no problem with this move. There’s no risk.
Brew88
Preller is to the Padres as Yoko was to the Beatles. Blamed for everything, credit for nothing
Jean Matrac
Brew 88:
He’s the Padre’s PBO. Who should get blamed instead of him? What has he done that warrants much credit?
He took over late-season of 2014. That year they finished in 3rd. Since then they’ve finished in 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 5th, 2nd, and last season 3rd.
I’ll give him credit for making the playoffs in 2020, but that countered against all the other seasons, makes me believe that if I was a Padres fan, I wouldn’t be happy. Since I’m not, I don’t really care, just trying to be objective.
Brew88
@ tad. I’m just not hateful towards him as so many seem to be, and I don’t get the vitriol to be honest. Sure he’s made mistakes, but that happens when you’re an active GM. The Frazier trade to me was his worst in recent years. It made no sense when they were in contention and needed SP so much more.
Many of the recent trades and signings he’s made (such as Musgrove, Manaea, Melancon, Darvish, Taylor, Voit, Grisham, Kim, ) have been very reasonable to me, given the objective to elevate the team to contention. He’s had some tough luck too (ex Clevinger trade, Tatis injuries). I didn’t like the Hos and Profar contracts, but on the flipside, the Tati and Manny contracts were foundational.
That said, ownership is as committed as any in MLB and the fanbase knows this. Preller will have to succeed, or he won’t last.
By the way I’m a both a Giants (childhood inheritance) and Padres fan
Jean Matrac
Actually I agree with a lot of what you say, it’s just that your first post suggested he’s criticized too much, which I do disagree with. But, there is a difference between justified criticism, and, as you point out, the unnecessary vitriol.
I don’t think he’s been very good overall. I think the mistakes outweigh the good moves, by a fair margin. If I were a Padres fan, I would probably be frustrated with his overall work. But I’m not, and it makes no difference to me if ownership continues to keep him on board.
The funny thing to me is that signing Cano is such a nothing burger. I don’t fault him for a no-risk move like this at all. And it’s ridiculous that an insignificant move like this becomes the rationalization for all that vitriol.
Brew88
My original post was about Yoko, who bore too much blame for the Beatles growing up and going their own ways. Poor Yoko!
I guess the main point I was trying to make was that Preller gets ripped for every move the team makes, even the really minor ones and even the good ones – read the vitriol after the mlbtr Musgrove trade.
He should be accountable for the job he’s doing, not just the mistakes.
Jean Matrac
There’s room for disagreement on the job he’s doing. My opinion is that he’s not doing it well. The potential signing of Cano does not factor in my opinion. It’s a move many teams would make, under the right circumstances.
It was the Yoko remark that I responded to, mainly because it’s not a good analogy since she wasn’t the one in charge of anything in regard to the Beatles. Preller is the guy in charge of the Padres moves.
I agree, he should be credited with the good moves, and those should be balanced against the bad ones. But, if he can’t be blamed for there being more bad moves than good ones, which is the case IMO, then who should?
Brew88
I agree and fair game to blame him for bad moves. Some will never credit him for good moves, and I’m not sure that’s fair. I don’t think he’s a rock star, I also don’t think he’s “garbage”
Jean Matrac
I couldn’t agree more. I really dislike that “rock star GM” moniker. But calling him garbage is not only totally unnecessary, but completely off the mark. Some just can’t help exaggerating to the extreme. He does make things interesting though.
Deleted Userr
It’s not his job to make things interesting it’s to put a winner on the field.
Brew88
@tad. We’ll said!
Jean Matrac
thelegendaryharambe:
WTH? Are you intentionally misinterpreting what I wrote? Did I day it was Preller’s purpose to be interesting? No, I never said that, nor did I intend to say any such thing. The fact that he makes things interesting is simply a statement of how he’s perceived, at least by me.
I agree his purpose is to put a winner on the field, and if you had a modicum of reading comprehension, you’d know that’s his lack of doing that has been my criticism of him all along.
Brew88
harambe is fond of the practice of transference, but we love him anyway
Jean Matrac
Lots of over-reaction here. While I don’t expect much of anything from Cano, it’s still a zero risk move. They had a opening on the 40 man. If they didn’t and they lost someone trying to slip him through waivers, that would be something worth being critical about. But this isn’t. I can’t really care either way since this is pretty insignificant.
metsie1
Yikes. He has nothing left. His bat is s-l-o-w.
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
As a Padres fan, I actually like this signing..even if Cano comes in and hits .240 with 10 hrs the rest of the year, he still can platoon with Voit at the DH spot, fill in at 2nd here and there allowing Cronenworth to move around from 1B, 2B, and SS depending on matchups, and would hopefully pick up a little of the offensive slack from the Padres’ trash outfield until they can trade for reinforcements..
outinleftfield
Padres OF is hitting .165 combined. They NEED help there.
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
That’s one thing I like about Preller..You KNOW he’s actually working the phones at least trying to get bats..there are so many GMs out there who don’t..and realistically, the Padres are a bat or two away from being serious WS contenders this year..
Canosucks
” fill in at 2nd here and there” He can’t even get out of his own way; he will let a ton of balls get through that would normally be fielded.
Now Friars are taking ABs away from younger players.
For the sake of he game of baseball I hope this cheater gets frustrated and juices again and is permanently banned. Never cared much about the Friars either way but now hope they wind up in the cellar. Never thought in my life I would ever root for the Dodgers but now with this signing go Dodger Blue and SF Giants Too!
Jean Matrac
“Now Friars are taking ABs away from younger players.”
It’s not that simple. There are things to consider when it comes to promoting a prospect. Maybe they don’t want to start a guy’s service time clock. Maybe they’d rather that prospect get every day ABs in the minors than an occasional one at MLB. Maybe they don’t want to rush a guy, have him over-matched by ML pitching, and have his development regress.
outinleftfield
What younger players? If they could hit, they would be Padres right now. Cano is a slime, but he is clean NOW and he might help the Padres until Tatis gets back. He was hitting better than 4 players that are getting regular at bats on the Padres team right now and he makes the minimum.
SDHotDawg
I really question the integrity of people who defend cheats and liars.
Brew88
The election was rigged
Brew88
or was that a lie by cheats of low integrity?
llokokokok
Everyone here is just hating on the padres. This is a league-minimum deal (even less because of the pro-rata of the beginning of the season). The budget is very close to the luxury tax so this works really well for the padres. If Cano does struggle they can just drop him. There is a league-wide shortage of offense because of the dead balls. You can hate on the padres and try to drag them for past poor decisions but if the dodgers/rays/etc picked him up for the min you would be praising them. You can hate all you want (mainly because you are a sad pathetic loser) but the padres are 20-12 with a struggling offense and struggling bullpen. Fernando Tatis Jr. (the position player with the most fwar in 2021) is returning in one month. It’s only going to get worse for other teams that play the padres…
empirejim
@ Manny IsTheMVP You’d think a Padres fan would have enough sense NOT to run their mouth because of a decent start. How did the Padres start last season? And how far back did the finish? With Tatis?
llokokokok
So you know all the answers right? Do you know why they finished where they did last season? Pitching depth. What did Preller do this season about the biggest problem that cratered their season last year? Padres have more starting pitchers than the entire league. My point is Preller and padres are the worst according to these comments. They are taking care of business right now and I hope it continues. If offense improves (with no big money commitments) this team while it’s already doing well can perform even better.
Brew88
yes SP depth was a problem last year, but only because Snell, Paddack, Morejon, Darvish, Lamet and Weathers all had significant health issues. In other words, the entire rotation/SP depth except for Musgrove was out part or most of the season. And Gore was not ready. Maybe he should have foreseen some of the health issues but bad luck played into it largely.
If the Dodgers lost Buehler and Urias and Kershaw this year, what would we say about their GM’s depth preparation?
Give Preller credit for bringing in Manaea and Martinez, and let’s hope the rotation stays healthy.
llokokokok
I agree he should have got at least another pitcher during the deadline last year.
SDHotDawg
He started last season with no depth. That’s a roster issue. And that’s on Preller.
llokokokok
There was a six-man rotation at one point in the beginning. There was depth but a lot of injuries caused very little depth. Still, it’s on Preller but your statement is false that there was no depth. Most of your comments are false.
SDHotDawg
@Manny … Seriously What team were you watching? They were having bullpen games in April. I won’t call you a liar, but you are certainly ignorant of the situation.
Brew88
Dawg. Wrong, the Pads started the season with SP depth (Musgrove, Snell, Paddack, Morejon, Darvish, Lamet and Weathers), and had an unfortunate rash of injuries to all but Musgrove.
By contrast, the Dodgers have started this season with only 3 or maybe 4 legitimate SPs. Serious depth issues there.
SDHotDawg
Lamet and Morejon were already hurt, which is the only reason Weathers was on the roster. We had nothing behind those guys, hence “bullpen” games in April, the desperation signings of Vasquez and Arrita, having to use Knehr and Weathers. There was no depth, and Preller even admitted it.
Brew88
Dawg, I think you’re making good points and you’ve changed my opinion a bit. But I do think no amount of additional depth going into 2021 could’ve survived the injuries the 4/5 of the rotation, so some very bad luck as well.
SDHotDawg
@Brew88 … I know I sound like I’m discounting the injuries, but I’m really not. Yes, they mattered. And every team is going to have injuries. But if you start a season with only 5 ML or near-ML SPs, two of whom were question marks from the get-go, you don’t have any depth. I think that became evident in April. We didn’t even have anybody in AAA to call up.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I did not think that I was important enough to have a doppelganger!
Yankee Clipper
RealManny: Man, I thought your response to me was a bit curt above…. I figured, “Manny must know I’m not bashing the team on this,” but then realized, it’s the SD version of MetsFan22…..not you. The world is right again.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Manny Being MVP is NOT Manny is the MVP! I have never seen this guy before.
I am often mistaken, but rarely a troll!
Of course, Manny Being MVP references Manny Ramirez. A fun player who loves the game, and will rightfully be denied the HOF due to shameful steroid use.
Manny is the MVP presumably refers to Machado. I have nothing against Machado or the Padres. I am a Cubs and Dodgers fan, but Fernando is my favorite player. Fernando Valenzuela not Fernando Tatis. I like to watch Tatis and the Padres. I think Tatis will be a superstar and hit 400 home runs. Even if he is somewhat injury prone.
In any event, I hope that no one else mistake the rather abrasive comments from the other Manny to be me.
Brew88
lol, I’ll pay attention to this and thanks for clarifying the many manny’s of mlbtr
bbatardo
What is the risk? They will pay him the minimum and he will take over the spot Alcantara would have who was a waiver claim himself. He will be a LH bat off the bench who occasionally DH’s vs righties I would guess.
99socalfrc
Preller is such a train wreck.
Please Uncle Peter just make it stop already.
dirkg
I’m not a Padres nor a Cano fan, but from a baseball perspective, I don’t understand this move at all. They’re 20-12 and only 1.5 games behind the Dodgers. They’re currently a half game up on the Giants. Every move they make must be calculated. There’s no room for error. So the argument of “what can it hurt?” baffles me. The answer is “plenty.”
What does Robinson Cano bring this team? I’m guessing a DH bat off the bench. He also brings in “Robinson Cano”. This team already has personalities like Manny Machado, Tatis Jr. (obviously not playing), and Mike Clevinger. Cano is a repeated steroid user who is known for being a “me” guy in the clubhouse.
Bookmark this page as this could start another Padres slide. I hope is doesn’t, but I don’t see much upside (at all) here.
99socalfrc
Exactly, every time they get it even close to right, Preller goes and does something to tinker with it. Some call this a no risk move, I’d call it the opposite, he can’t add anything of value and you risk bringing him and ruining chemistry.
Brew88
No worries fellas. I don’t see Cano messing up their chem at all. He will be fairly inconsequential in his role on the team and in the clubhouse full of characters and under the steady hand of Melvin
dirkg
Exactly. If you wanted a veteran player who can DH or come off the bench with pop, Justin Upton has been out there for weeks. And he doesn’t have the baggage that Cano has. The only argument that makes sense to me is that they desperately needed a lefty to come off the bench. But I don’t think that’s the case as they have switch hitters like Alcantara and Profar and lefties in Hosmer, Cronenworth, and Grisham.
outinleftfield
It can hurt plenty? How?
Cano makes the minimum.
He was hitting better when released by the Mets than 4 current Padres that are getting regular playing time.
He will not be a big voice in the clubhouse and from comments about this signing other players seem to like him.
So explain how it will hurt plenty.
dirkg
You’re using the term “will” hurt and I used the term “can” hurt. It’s not an absolute. My opinion is that with roster spots at a premium now that the teams are back down to 26, the Padres are taking a calculated risk here. Google ‘Robinson Cano in the clubhouse’ and you’ll see he was a huge presence in that Mets clubhouse and there’s no reason to think he’s coming into the Padres clubhouse as anything but a large veteran presence. I’ll admit that it seems he’s more likable now (at least from what I’ve read), but the tinker factor of a winning formula and bringing in an outside voice that may not need or want to be heard is a question mark. And if he’s being brought in for his bat, then the Pads are in worse shape than I thought. Time will tell, but I personally don’t like the move at all.
Pads Fans
His first sentence was “It can hurt plenty?” Seems he is saying can and you are not.
So who exactly would the Padres play as a PH instead of Cano?
You mean like this article? The first one that comes up when you google ‘Robinson Cano in the Clubhouse’. newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/robinson-cano-rel…
Deleted Userr
“He” is you pretending to be someone else.
By the way, the dead giveaway was repeating from both accounts that “He is hitting better than 4 players that are regulars on the Padres.”
DodgerOK
TheRealMilo
What an absolute mess of a roster. This is what you get when a team is run by the Rangers/Padres inbreeds. Also, why is Luis Campusano still in El Paso? He’s been there forever with nothing more to prove. Just trade the guy to an organization that knows what they are doing.
Brew88
Relax. Alfaro just hit a walk off HR and Campy is 23 and nearly ready to start on MLB (next year). Meanwhile Nola is doing exceptionally well at handling the talented SP rotation.
outinleftfield
Roster is actually pretty dang good. All Stars across the infield once Tatis returns in 3 weeks.
The catchers are middle of the pack in MLB with a .214 BA and .579 OPS. The Yankees, Astros, and Dbacks bring up the rear. While they would like to see more production with the bat, especially from Nola, that is not a position that presents a huge problem for the Padres.
The OF is the big issue. Especially with Grisham forgetting how to hit and Myers injured. Everyone expected Profar to be putrid and he has not disappointed with his awful hitting. Padres OF are dead last in BA and 29th in OPS. That cannot continue if they want to compete for the West title.
Campusano was up for several weeks and did not do well getting just limited at bats. When rosters were reduced to 26 man he was sent down to get every day playing time. He will be back at some point this season to stay. He definitely won’t be traded.
Not sure what Cano adds, but he costs the Padres just the major league minimum. Same as bringing up a rookie. No biggie.
ukpadre
Grish had a great 9 pitch ab in the 9th tonight where he battled, fought off some good pitches, then absolutely roped a double to clear the bases and drive in 3 runs. I’m hoping it’s the catalyst that triggers his turnaround.
empirejim
Nothing says desperate like adding a guy with multiple PED suspensions on his resume…. Someone needs to tell Preller that if he wants to supplant the Dodgers it goes far deeper than wins and losses.
Brew88
Bauer is that you?
Pads Fans
Well, he is cheap. Worthless, but cheap. Only cost them the major league minimum.
SDHotDawg
Now we know. The price of integrity is major league minimum.
Enzosrevenge
Desperate times require desperate measures…..uggh. I’m surprised they didn’t try to sign Parra….
Canosucks
I still can’t believe in reading this and other sports articles they keep referring to Cano’s 2020 stats. He was juicing guys! It was FAKE! He was suspended for it!
Friars are also on the hook for the league minimum next year for Cano.
llokokokok
Did Cano sleep with your wife/mom or something?
Canosucks
No the same reason everyone hates the Astros is because cheating sucks.
Secondly he didn’t only cheat the Mets he and the GM Van Lunchwagon lied to NY Mets ownership and fans when they said Cano’s first PED suspension was a mistake and assured all of us he wasn’t juicing; that in my opinion is downright fraud and we would all be in jail if we did that to the companies we work for.
And now the Mets are still on the hook for nearly 40 million dollars of his lie so indulge me I will keep urinating on his name for as long as it comes up in baseball.
I can only hope he gets nailed a third time and banned for life then I can change my screen name and get back to it.
Richard Alicea
@Canosucks He’s probably a good human being and not deserving of hate, but I agree with everything you said about this cheat. He clearly doesn’t have it any longer and I’m surprised that the Padres, of all teams, are signing him to the league minimum. This is a win win for Cano, because the Padres in all likelihood will release him once they see that he can’t hit a lick any longer. If the Padres are willing to sacrifice ABs, then their offense better pick this guy up because he’s a double play machine that won’t provide any offense, let alone defense. Good luck with Mr. No hustle at all.
marooned in NE
Ah the haters are roaring… The team is 20 and 12, fourth best in NL….Hosmer sucks currently number two in NL…Manny is overpaid currently number one in NL…the farm system is destroyed….but you win with the major league roster not the farm system minors…Tatis is a liability….he is likely one of the top five players in all of baseball…Christ grow up it’s a game…cano is being paid chicken fee with the potential to help as the DH….
llokokokok
These people a few weeks ago were saying Hosmer was the worst player in the entire league. Absolutely no clue about anything…
Jean Matrac
It’s way too early in the season to have an idea whether Hosmer is having any kind of bounce back season. His .405 Babip is certainly unsustainable.
Those people saying Hosmer sucks, or that he’s the worst player in the league, clearly don’t understand baseball. But his contract was/is one of the worst in baseball. While he’s not a terrible player, he’s paid like a perennial AS which he clearly is not.
Not counting this season, when he’ll make $21M, over his career with SD so far, he’s been paid $84M and has given the Padres a 106 OPS+.
Javia135
It’s funny how so many people are acting like the Padres are the only ones signing these people. The Dodgers just sent down ROBBIE FREAKIN ERLIN! In case you don’t know, the Padres gave up on him back when THEY still sucked. The Padres wouldn’t touch Erlin with a 50’ pole this year, yet the Dodgers DID. It didn’t mean their season was over. Neither does Cano.
llokokokok
Dodgers make so many stupid moves but it gets overlooked by good results that are directly from spending magnitudes more than every other team.
Deleted Userr
Well… that’s just not true. The Dodgers are the gold standard at scouting and developing young talent. They’ve also had several dudes who other teams released make All Star teams as Dodgers. Sure, having a lot of money helps, but they would still be successful even without it.
llokokokok
They don’t spend more than every other team every year (besides Mets this year)? They haven’t made huge mistakes like Trevor Bauer? Which part is not true?
SDHotDawg
Bauer’s trouble has nothing to do with the Dodgers.
Brew88
If they didn’t have money, let’s say midrange payroll, they dont have T. Turner, Betts, Freeman, Bellinger, wouldn’t have re-signed Kershaw, etc… Maybe they still win enough to contend for playoffs but I doubt it, they’re not the Rays.
Brew88
Cano’s past trouble has nothing to do with the Padres, or are you saying the Dodgers and Bauer are birds of a feather?
Deleted Userr
@Brew88 They traded prospects for Turner. They didn’t need all that money to scout and develop those prospects for trade. They would still have Bellinger too. He’s still in arb. The Dodgers are basically the Rays with $, which doesn’t surprise me considering their primary decision maker came from the Rays organization.
Deleted Userr
@MannyIsTheMVP All of it is true. It is also true that the Dodgers scout and develop better than most other teams. You don’t need to have a $200m payroll to do that. Just ask the Brewers, Guardians and Rays.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
No, the Dodgers should have done better due diligence with the Bauer signing. Bauer’s tweets alone should have given pause. And I am a Cubs and Dodgers fan and I am happy to own the Bauer screw-up.
Yes, as a fan, I am ok with saying us rather than them. Of course the teams do not listen to me. But I can still identify with them. And as a Cubs fan, the use of Cubbies when used positively or negatively does not offend me. (The underlying content might.)
Finally, I think that Tatis Jr. and Harper would both prove to be good signings even if the teams had to use either of those players mostly as DHs. Tatis has elite bat skills and power and is still young. His accident was stupid but he is young enough to mature. I like the Tatis extension whereas I thought that Clevinger and Snell were injuries risks.
SDHotDawg
Cano is a twice proven steroid using cheater. He spent all of last season on his second suspension. He should have been banned, not rewarded by Preller (another proven cheater).
Nobody, including the Dodgers, knew about Bauer’s “extra-curricular” activities. There is no moral equivalency here, no matter how you spin it.
Deleted Userr
@SDHotDawg Cano isn’t being “rewarded” by Preller. His salary remains the same. If there’s anyone he’s rewarding it’s Steve Cohen who saves $500k because of this.
Brew88
Having $ capital applies to who you trade for, regardless of the prospects sent. Without the payroll they don’t take on those salaries, including Scherzer, no?
Deleted Userr
Any team can afford a two month rental and a guy in arb 3. It’s not like they could have gotten Max and Trea’s production for less $ elsewhere.
Deleted Userr
The Trevor Bauer thing should have been handled behind closed doors. Such issues do not belong in the court of public opinion.
Brew88
@legend. Most teams have prospects to trade. But they acquired Trea knowing they’d keep him, paying him $21 mil this year. Having more $ than other teams makes that roster building possible. Not saying LA is the only team with this advantage, just saying it’s an advantage, a big one.
Deleted Userr
They did not and do not know that they will keep Trea. Teams trade prospects for elite players and then lose them all the time.
Brew88
I meant that they traded for Turner knowing they’d pay him this year, and that took much $.
Brew88
@Dawg. Yes there is. The Dodgers signed Bauer and most in LA were outraged because he was an outspoken flaming misogynistic racist who stalked women BEFORE he signed with LA. But they signed him anyway to win. Point being, any association of Preller being = Cano is just as ridiculous as Zaidi = Bauer. You’re making that case, own it then
Brew88
not Zaidi, Friedman
SDHotDawg
He’s being rewarded by being given a place to play.
SDHotDawg
“Misogynist?” “Racist?” Please. Now you sound like one of those political wing-nuts who uses those words to describe anybody you don’t like.
Brew88
uh, read up on him. It’s not my opinion it’s what Bauer did that earned him those labels. Point being if the fans were outraged by the signing (on moral and morale concerns) and Friedman went for it anyway, then owe up to it rather than trying so hard to differentiate character of the age 39 Cano signing (which has far less consequence in baseball terms) as reflecting on one GM but not another. So Cano got busted, apologized and came clean, so did Maguire who was later hired as hitting coach of the Cardinals. Life goes on.
Brew88
@ Dawg. You said “He’s being rewarded by being given a place to play”.
Cano didn’t get a lifetime ban, he served his suspension given by the league.. Laureano didnt get banned either. Nor did Montas, Severino, Gordon, Cruz, Grandal, Polanco, Mondesi, etc….on and on. GMs gave them a place to play after they served their suspensions. Maguire got rewarded by being hired by Cardinals as hitting coach. Do you blame the GM or MLB for enforcing suspension periods of a pre-determined length?
Rsox
Platoon DH with Voit?
BobbyKidd1965
All I can say is, goooooood luck with that guy. We’re so glad to be finally rid of him. He was blocking a much stronger batting order and defensive alignment. We’ve now officially cleared out all the nasty remnants of the Wilpon/Van Wagenen era.
Richard Alicea
@BobbyKidd1965 Amen to that, he was taking away ABs from better productive players like JD and Dominic. As a Mets fan, I’m glad Cohen and the Front Office had the courage to remove him from our roster as he was only occupying space and taking away ABs from better players. Good Luck Padres with this cheat, he’s done and will give you nothing while paying him an extra 700k league minimum, he wins when you realize that he’s a bust and have to release him.
Poster formerly known as . . .
“In 182 plate appearances during the shortened 2020 campaign, he hit .316/.352/.544 with ten home runs.”
And he was caught juicing after that, wasn’t he?
drasco036
Canos at the end of his rope with mlb. Might as well go for the ped trifecta
Curveball1984
And despite this… the idiots at SDS still won’t add Cano to the active Show roster.
Richard Alicea
Cano can’t hit a lick, he is done. Moreover, he lacks hustle and has no mobility to effectively play second base, he doesn’t run out balls that are hit at players and is a double play candidate for sure. Without his juice he can’t function; this guy is a cheat who can no longer effectively play this game. The Padres must be desperate to pick up this garbage to integrate into their team which is currently playing solid baseball and really could use a real ball player not a waste of a player. They will soon find out that he’s anemic and will waive him, that I can guarantee.
bucketbrew35
Considering they had tumultuous team chemistry to begin with this seems like a questionable add for them. Tatis, Cano and Machado in the same clubhouse? Yikes.
llokokokok
Tatis and Cano are from the same town in the Dominican Republic and are friends. Your understanding of the situation is what is yikes…
bucketbrew35
From the same town? They MUST get along then. That’s some sound logic there.
You Can Put It In The Books
@bucketbrew35
You seriously have some of the worst takes on this site. Didn’t you learn your lesson when Tim Dierkes ate your lunch earlier??? Yikes.
Crunchtime1969
Preller has made mistakes just like all GM’s, but he’s also never had a good manager. His best signing will prove to be Bob Melvin.
drasco036
Who hired the managers???
SDHotDawg
That would be PRELLER.
8 years. Largest budget in team history. What’s he done? Nothing. 77 wins in his best year.
wallabeechamp
LOL Pobres
drasco036
If someone came up to me and said, “I’m going to give you 270 million dollars over the next ten years and all you have to do is not take ped’s” I would not take peds.
SDHotDawg
Preller is a known cheat. He’s been suspended twice and got the Padres fined another time. Why wouldn’t he sign Cano, they’re birds of a feather.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
i have no problem if the Padres want to try out Cano for a few weeks until Tatis is back. My guess is that a change of scenery is not enough to help Cano. Low risk, probably gets them nothing. It is just the Padres have Cronenworth at 2B and Voit at DH. At this point, I think Voit is the better bat than Cano, so Cano will not get many at-bats.
Dogham
On purpose?
abcrazy4dodgers
As often as Cano is being mentioned in the comments, this must be a pretty significant signing.
Cosmo2
Well, he IS the subject of the article, so
Fred McGriff
Many people talking nonsense about Cano, and he hasn’t even had one AB yet for the Padres, let alone 50-100. Furthermore, show me the proof via factual research that gearing up makes you a better hitter or pitcher. There is absolutely no evidence of this being the case. Of course, it might make you stronger, but it can’t improve your hand eye co-ordination which is one of the main fundamental skills required to hit. I detest users of PED’s, but there are plenty that have used them and have not had ‘enhanced performance’, and you may also assert that it also helped some hit more home runs, because eg. maybe it made the bat feel lighter etc.
Some of you can’t have played baseball to speak the way you do. It’s hard enough to get hits every day when you’re playing every day, let alone get hits when you play a day here and there and get your timing and mechanics right.
Have a look at Arcia against the Red Sox the other day, he got 3 hits and he had hardly played a game in the days beforehand, and then he walked the game off with a HR. That sort of thing is phenomenal.
I am not for or against Cano, but for some to write him off when he hasn’t even taken batting practice yet is laughable.
SDHotDawg
@McGriff … You are in serious denial regarding anabolic steroids. This is wilful ignorance given the vast number of medical reports, studies, and even the eyeball tests over the last 30-40 years. Is it worth your integrity to defend cheating?
socalblake
I’m sure it’s already been said, but I guess Robinson Can g(o).