The Dodgers and White Sox are in agreement on a trade sending outfielder AJ Pollock to Chicago in exchange for reliever Craig Kimbrel, reports Mark Feinsand of MLB.com (Twitter link). The two teams have since announced the trade.
It’s a fairly stunning blockbuster involving two high-profile and highly paid veterans. Pollock is earning $10MM this season and is owed at least a $5MM buyout on a $10MM player option for the 2023 season. Kimbrel, meanwhile, is slated to earn $16MM this coming season after the ChiSox picked up a 2022 club option despite a poor performance following the trade that sent him from Chicago’s north side to the south side last summer.
ESPN’s Jeff Passan tweets that there is no money changing hands in the deal, which means the Dodgers are effectively adding an extra million dollars in financial commitments (assuming Pollock declines his player option at a net $5MM and tests free agency next winter). The Dodgers will also see their luxury ledger tick upward a bit as a result of the trade. Pollock’s contract was a four-year, $55MM deal but counted as five years and $60MM for luxury tax purposes, as the player option on the end of the contract was considered guaranteed money. Thus, the contract carried a $12MM luxury hit. As Matt Gelb of The Athletic recently reported, the new CBA stipulates that a traded contract’s remaining actual dollars will count toward the luxury tax. As such, Kimbrel will now represent a $16MM luxury hit for the Dodgers (rather than the $14.5MM he’d have represented under previous rules).
Setting aside the financial component of the blockbuster swap, the trade fills a need for both teams. The Dodgers’ bullpen was lacking a shutdown option late in the game, and Kimbrel restored his credibility as a dynamic ninth-inning option through the first four months of the 2021 season while closing games for the Cubs. He’ll now join Blake Treinen, Daniel Hudson and young flamethrower Brusdar Graterol at the back of the Los Angeles bullpen.
For much of the 2021 season, Kimbrel looked back to his vintage form. In 36 2/3 innings with the Cubs, the 33-year-old righty (34 in May) posted a microscopic 0.49 ERA while racking up 23 saves and 46.7% of his opponents against a 9.4% walk rate. Kimbrel deservingly made the All-Star team, and the three-year, $43MM contract he’d signed in 2019 went from albatross to trade asset in a matter of months. The White Sox, looking to push what was already a clear division winner over the hump, traded injured second baseman Nick Madrigal and right-hander Codi Heuer to the Cubs in a crosstown blockbuster.
Kimbrel pitched a shutdown inning in each of his first two appearances with the Sox, and though he was rocked for three runs in his third outing, it looked like a blip on the radar when he bounced back with three more scoreless appearances thereafter. However, the right-hander’s struggles increased in the coming weeks as reports that Kimbrel was uncomfortable pitching in a setup capacity behind Sox closer Liam Hendriks gained prominence. Ultimately, Kimbrel posted an ugly 5.09 ERA in 23 regular season frames with the Sox before being trounced for another three runs (two earned) in two ALDS innings.
Whether Kimbrel’s struggles were indeed tied to the role in which he was pitching or whether that was a more narrative-driven explanation, the Dodgers clearly feel confident that he can return to the high level of performance he displayed with the Cubs last year. If that’s indeed the case, a bullpen that recently lost Kenley Jansen to the Braves (for this same $16MM price tag) will prove one of the most formidable in the sport.
The trade of Pollock also opens up playing time in the outfield for Chris Taylor, who’d previously been deemed the team’s primary second baseman. With Pollock and left-handed-hitting Matt Beaty now gone via trade — Beaty went to the Padres earlier this week — there’s room for Taylor to take over as the primary left fielder and longtime top prospect Gavin Lux to get in everyday reps at second base. Of course, that assumes no further additions are coming for the Dodgers. It’s at least worth noting that L.A. just traded its left fielder and has a right-handed-heavy lineup at a time when former All-Star outfielder Michael Conforto and his left-handed bat are still looking for a landing spot.
Meanwhile, the White Sox have yet to address a glaring hole in right field all offseason. The closest the Sox had come to bolstering the right field position was a recent trade for the Phillies’ Adam Haseley, but the Sox announced that Haseley was optioned to Triple-A just minutes before word of today’s trade broke. Pollock will now step right into the outfield mix, giving the Sox a quality option to pair with center fielder Luis Robert and left fielder Eloy Jimenez. The Sox went much of the 2021 season with first basemen Andrew Vaughn and Gavin Sheets masquerading as corner outfielders, so bringing Pollock into the fold will give them a true outfielder — and a solid defensive one at that.
Pollock, who turned 34 this offseason, will come to the White Sox fresh off a .297/.355/.536 showing in 117 games/422 plate appearances with the Dodgers this past season. Typically a better hitter against lefties than righties — though his career marks against right-handed pitchers are still well above average — Pollock posted a more even split last season and was immensely effective at the plate regardless of opponent handedness.
That said, Pollock also spent more than a month on the injured list with a pair of hamstring strains, one in each leg. That marked the fourth time in the past five seasons — the shortened 2020 campaign the lone exception — that he’s spent at least a month on the shelf with an injury. Pollock has also missed time with a fractured elbow that cost him 150 games in 2016, a groin strain (2017), a fractured thumb (2018) and elbow surgery (2019) in recent years. Pollock played in a career-high 157 games in 2015, but he’s averaged just 88 games per 162-game season since that time. Notably, he did play in 55 of 60 possible games during the shortened 2020 campaign, which shouldn’t be completely overlooked when weighing questions about his durability.
Even if Pollock does miss time this year, the Sox have their share of fill-in options. Veteran Adam Engel gives Chicago a defensively gifted right-handed bat who can play any of the three outfield positions. Neither Vaughn nor Sheets graded out well in terms of defense last year, but they at least got their feet wet in the outfield and could handle some corner work on a short-term basis. The aforementioned Haseley is an option to be called up at any point and at least provide quality defense and a passable bat against righties. Utilityman Leury Garcia, meanwhile, is an option all over the infield or the outfield. Second baseman Josh Harrison has his share of experience in the outfield corners as well.
As for the Chicago bullpen, the team’s offseason dealings have helped to build a strong relief corps that looks formidable even sans Kimbrel. The Sox signed veteran righties Kendall Graveman (three years, $24MM) and Joe Kelly (two years, $17MM) to multi-year deals this winter. Of course, the Sox are subtracting not only Kimbrel but also free-agent righty Ryan Tepera (who went to the Angels on a two-year deal) and lefty Garrett Crochet, whom GM Rick Hahn announced is likely to undergo Tommy John surgery just minutes after announcing the Kimbrel/Pollock deal. Hendriks, Graveman, Kelly and lefty Aaron Bummer still give the Sox a strong quartet at the end of games, but they’ll need a few in-house options to step up in the middle innings — assuming no further outside additions, of course.
Ultimately, the swap serves as the rare one-for-one, pure baseball trade that sees teams exchange a pair of veterans to address a need on either side. It’s a mostly cash-neutral swap that gives the Sox a new everyday outfielder, the Dodgers their new closer and sets the stage for both veteran to play pivotal roles for their new teams — both during the regular season and quite likely in the playoffs.
Photos courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
Toms Changeup
Freeman and Kimbrel reunited!! I just wish it was for the Braves
Francys01
The super team just got better when it comes to their bullpen. Their lineup is also excellent.
Steve Nebraska
Who’s going to play alongside Betts and Belli in the Dodgers outfield now? Maybe a precursor to the Dodgers signing Conforto? I think the White Sox actually come away pretty good on this deal. I see Pollock as more valuable than Kimbrel. Especially if the Dodgers eat all of Kimbrel’s contract. The Dodgers just traded a good outfielder from last season and $6 million to get a reliever who finished the year poorly. He should be better than he was in Chicago but $16 million + Pollock is a lot to give up. Signing Conforto would probably lessen the blow.
Dan Rogers
Chris Taylor who was probably going to see the bulk of the time before this trade
seamaholic 2
Taylor for now. Lux can play OF too. But outfielders are infinitely aquirable should they need one. They’re not going to sign Conforto.
braves fan 138
This is a bad trade for LA imo, AJ Pollock has simply more value than Kimbrel. As a Braves fan glad to see Kimbrel and Freddie reunion.
paddyo furnichuh
Or Lux , when Muncy is playing 2B and they’re facing a RHP.
JerseyShoreScore
I would think that they liked how Lamb and Rios played this spring, also this opens up ABs for Gavin Lux. I doubt they want to push the payroll over the final CBT Threshold for a Conforto type. Maybe a starting pitcher would force their hands.
JohnJasoJingleHeimerSchmidt
Yeah, I thought the same thing. It probably puts Lux/Taylor in the OF each day.
They did sign Kevin Pillar, but offensively, he’s a big step back from Pollock. That OF depth is razor thin.
Rsox
Most likely the Dodgers will mix-and-match with Taylor/Lux/Pillar in LF and trade for a LF at the deadline if necessary
iverbure
BTV has both players value exactly the same at -1
azmacky2
Pillar
jvent
Chris Taylor will play LF
iverbure
I wonder if the dodgers would rather have Jensen at 16 mil and pollack? Would there tax be higher? Yes. And I don’t like teams going over the tax usually because it’s dumb teams who haven’t won or are close to winning doing it, Mets and padres but the dodgers should be going over the tax for one year commitments.
sdbaseballguy
“If” he stays healthy, maybe? They need more proven reliable arms in the pen. This trade makes perfect sense, especially is Kimbrel as no aspirations of closing, otherwise Jansen would have been resigned. Offense is not an issue for LA, arms will be. This is a GREAT move.
Smacky
Dodgers can’t sign anyone unless they shed nearly equal salary. They don’t want to end up in the super-death luxury tax bracket. They’re already on the hook for something like $30m in tax.
Captain Judge99
@braves fan 138- Yes my thoughts exactly. I like this trade for the ChiSox more than the Dodgers. Although Kimbrel can still throw some smoke and will definitely help the Dodgers bullpen
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
“As a Braves fan glad to see Kimbrel and Freddie reunion” – Me as well, just wish they were celebrating it in Atlanta.
RunDMC
Agreed, Pollock is a nice get, but he hasn’t had more than 460 PA (or 117 games played/season) since 2015! Talk about the grind of a full season.
Sure, Kimbrel looked bad as a setup man, but what happens when reinserted back as a closer? Pollock has a higher floor, but Kimbrel a much higher ceiling.
Nice gamble on both sides.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Pollock is good but injury prone. He went to my high school by the way.
mmyechoandbunnymen
It’s not $16M and Pollock for Kimbrel. It’s 6M (kept simple, more realistically it’s 1M with Pollocks option) and Pollock. This is a huge difference in analysis. That frame of reference is peanuts to the Dodgers and bets on a possible rebound. If we count Jansen in the trade (we really shouldn’t, but bare with me), the Dodgers saved 10M overall. Pollock was going to struggle for time and the Dodgers should give more time to Lux/Taylor anyways. It’s a savvy trade even if Kimbrel sucks, because it’s more about betting on the rest of the team.
Kyatt 2
I see your point however, what the Dodgers were missing is bullpen help. I will mis AJ but this was a good move for both teams. Your correct, I do believe the Dodgers will sign a lefty bat
sdbaseballguy
High floor? I would disagree. His history shows that he won’t be healthy enough for 500 AB’s. Kimbrel was nasty for the Cubs last season and terrible for the Sox. His floor could be high if he rebounds in the NL.
The Natural
“The Sox went much of the 2021 season with first basemen Andrew Vaughn and Gavin Sheets masquerading as corner outfielders”–pretty fun line from Dr Adams
BleedingBlue162232
The Dodgers absolutely wanted to re-sign Jansen…but Jansen wanted to play for the team he rooted for growing up, which I’m happy for him. So keeping Jansen wasn’t really an option it seems. With this move, even if Kimbrel is somewhere between his Cubs and White Sox performances from last year, it makes a lot of sense for the Dodgers. As has been mentioned, most of the Dodgers bullpen guys are better suited for setup/high leverage situations, while Kimbrel is still a very good closer…when he’s healthy and restricted mostly to coming in for the 9th in a tie or save situation. Simultaneously, while Pollock is a damn good outfielder and hitter, him on the roster meant most days either he, Taylor or Lux would be on the bench. Now Taylor and Lux play basically daily — definitely needed for Lux, so they can see what he can do in a full season — and the Dodgers have many outfield depth options should injuries arise. Like the article states, “pure baseball trade that sees teams exchange a pair of veterans to address a need on either side.”
RunDMC
@sdbaseballguy — High floor in that when he’s in there, he’s solid. Sure, only 117 games in 2021, but still a 3.1 WAR with almost no negative def value. In 2020-21, he had a 132 & 137 OPS+ with a good glove, respectively. Padres would kill for that kind of OF production right now — Tatis makes Pollock look like the Iron Horse.
Smacky
Not how it went. Jansen wanted to stay but the Dodgers couldn’t pay him until they dumped salary so they wouldn’t get ruined by the luxury tax level they’d cross into if they gave him that deal then. Braves swooped in and poached him. The Dodgers got caught sleeping more than anything else.
I mean, look at what they had to do with the Freeman contract and all that deferred money. Freeman had no choice but to take it since his market dried-up/ never materialized. It’s all salary cap/ luxury tax gymnastics to not get tagged with a 50% for next season. Same thing the Yankees and Red Sox have been up to in recent years.
Not an expert but that’s the basic summary. I’m sure there’s a few thing I’ve screwed up but they have a payroll number they absolutely do not want to exceed b/c it effects how much tax they have to pay in the future.
Pete'sView
Steve Nebraska — No money is being exchanged and the dollars are virtually even if you include the $5M buyout of Pollack’s 2023 season (Kimbrel = $16M/Pollack $15M).
This is one of those very satisfying deals (though I am not a fan of either team). Both got what they needed. Although I think the White Sox probably will have the slight edge. Chicago fans should be pleased.
WillSmith
Nicely said steve
waltsneck1
Kimbrel could have a bounce back as he returns to his more familiar closer role. Worth a shot for the Dodgers.
But this was a great trade for the Sox and solved two problems in one move. They got rid of Kimbral, who wasn’t going to fit as a set-up guy, and fills a hole in RF with a good all-around player in Pollock. Great move by Rick Hahn.
BleedingBlue162232
@smacky
Jansen himself said that’s why he signed with Atlanta…I’ll take his word over yours, lol.
thekid9
Good gravy, get out of the basement and go get some cookies from mama
ChicagowhiteBalls
Kimbrel hasn’t been consistent for years now.
Traffickers
Agree the Sox did well here……. And it seems like the Dodgers chose kimbrel over Kenley which doesn’t make a ton of sense to me …. Many teams would have taken Pollock
letmeclearmythroat74
Cool ! We’re you both in band ?
Redwolves3
Rich keep getting richer … thus putting pressure on everyone else. Zaidi … wake up and get Jose Ramirez.
Pete'sView
In OUR dreams.
Gooberberry
I hate this deal as a dodger fan — pollock has been underrated for a while by the Dodgers. Dude had a .900 OPS and was among the most clutch of their hitters last year. Very sad to see him go and don’t understand why the dodgers didn’t just re-sign kenley if the 9th was a concern.
vtadave
True, but they have so much depth on offense and he’s good for 50 missed games a year. This does make them a bit more vulnerable against tough LHP but really helps stabilize the back end of the bullpen.
bassmaster
was w you until the resigning kenley part
rondon
The only way it works is if Kimbrel is closing.
That’s his one and only sweet spot.
letmeclearmythroat74
Best team money can buy. It’s a shame baseball is ruined …
Rallyshirt
Pollock and Kelly reunion!
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Pollack oozes with potential but almost every year finds his way to the IL
Rallyshirt
Two words, Curly: La Russa
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Help me out @Rallyshirt, how does La Russa help Pollack? No disrespect, just curious
Rallyshirt
Starts with a handshake
Highest IQ
White Sox gonna regret this trade come the world series.
jmi1950
If the W Sox make it to the WS it is a huge win for Hahn.
BlueSkies_LA
Yikes! Bet nobody saw that coming!
The strange part is just yesterday Roberts was talking about how he was planning on handling the 9th without a designated closer.
paddyo furnichuh
I did not, but I did hear someone on MLB Network speculate about this recently. I’m
bhambrave
I am too.
Dan Rogers
I didn’t but was just telling a friend how we should have. Makes too much sense for both teams.
mmyechoandbunnymen
I kinda doubt this changes that much. Kimbrel isn’t good enough to hold it on his own.
Dorothy_Mantooth
Wow! It’s rare when Andrew Friedman gets fleeced, but he just got fleeced! Chicago not only dumps that albatross of a contract but they filled their OF opening too with an above-average player. Well done, Hahn!
Holy Cow!
This was a good need for need trade. Both guys have their pluses and minuses. The fleecing could be on Hahn if Madrigal pans out for the Cubs.
Pete'sView
Dorothy — I think “fleecing” will only be true IF Kimbrel continues to fall apart. I don’t think he will. This is a solid trade for both teams.
waltsneck1
That’s an overstatement. A one year contract is hardly an albatross. But it is a good deal for the Sox. Kimbrel just didn’t fit as a set-up guy. And his command was horrible. He looked like a tired pitcher trying too hard.
But Pollock is a huge acquisition for the Sox. He mashes right handed pitching and is a good outfielder.
This could turn out to be a good trade for both teams.
rct
@Dorothy: So Chicago dumped Kimbrell’s ‘albatross’ contract of $16 million for 2022, after which he’s a free agent, in order to acquire Pollock, who is due $13 million* and then a $5 million buyout (ie, $18 million total) if/when he declines the $10 million option for 2023.
So total savings for the White Sox is at best $3 million and at worst negative $2 million. I think by saying they ‘dumped that albatross of a contract’, you’re overstating things a tad.
*B-Ref lists Pollock at $13 million for 2022. Spotrac has him at $10 million plus a $3 million signing bonus that was part of his original $12 million signing bonus, paid out over four years.
kr_nelson
I think her comment was more money for production. Kimbrel just didn’t produce his $16M for the Sox last year. I think he’ll bounce back but give it time, maybe this is just me but I feel like he struggles (relatively) out of the gate for new teams. But again that may just be for the Cubs (when he got there he sucked) and Sox.
thebaseballfanatic
Need for a need, wonder what the cash balancing will be.
A huge move for both teams.
I assume Taylor will get more starts in LF as Lux settles in as the everyday second baseman.
leftcoaster
Muncy goes to second.
thebaseballfanatic
There’s the DH slot, where Muncy will spend most of his playing time.
mmyechoandbunnymen
DH will be both Turner and Muncy
fox471 Dave
Why? Muncy is a fine infielder.
derail76
And especially at 2b, which is Muncy’s favored position.
leftcoaster
Oops, sorry I’m wrong. Muncy mostly to DH and Lux at second.
Rsox
For whatever reason the Dodgers have said Muncy will see a lot of time at 2B. I expect with Alberto and either Rios or Lamb the Dodgers will probably DH Justin Turner quite a bit to keep him healthy
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I was thinking Turner as DH. He’s getting up there in age.
differentbears
Muncy plays a rather good second base.
fox471 Dave
Why are so many forgetting about Muncy?
Iago407
Sounds like a decent move for both sides.
robluca21
Dodgers keep getting better but the yanks basically stand pat
Thanks Hal
jjd002
Tell Cashmen to get the Astros out of his mind and get to work. You guys need to replace him.
seamaholic 2
The Yanks aren’t in the Dodgers league and the Yanks know it. They’re not competing against each other.
SweetHome
Do you mean that literally (AL vs. NL) or figuratively (Dodgers much more talented). Of course they know the former. Not sure they’d agree to the latter. Just curious.
Pete'sView
No, but I think jjd002’s comment referenced that Cashmen is still dwelling in the past for excuses, while Yankee fans (I am not) aren’t too happy with the lack of moves.
Dorothy_Mantooth
The Yankees have over $250M committed to this year’s payroll so you can’t say they aren’t trying. This is the price you pay when you have so many large, long-term contracts on your roster before the offseason begins. Yanks fans had better get use to this (especially if they re-sign Judge) as there will be very little money left over to spend and they won’t be able to afford most of the upcoming top free agents. This is going to be a repeating issue for them over the next 3-4 seasons as they won’t be able to move any of these long term, high AAV contracts until they are down to one year left and even then, the players will be on the back 9 (if they aren’t already today), so they will be hard to move. Therefore, the real issue isn’t that the Yankees aren’t trying to compete; the issue is that Cashman and Hal have already spent money on the wrong players and are now stuck with them. The bi-product of doing so is the limited spending capacity left over to add additional star players to the team. The Yankees are a year or two away from being a 4th placed team in the AL East.
THE downvoter
I love when the “Haves” whine about the other “Haves”.
Here is your clue…..
48-team MLB
I can feel the tectonic plates shifting. This will change the earth forever.
paddyo furnichuh
@Alfred Wegener…. Do you miss Gondwanaland?
Eovaldismemes
Wait no, this can’t be true? APRIL FOOLS PLEASE?
Oscar the Grouch
Wonder if that slots him in as closer?
Maclunkey
After the way he pitched in the 8th inning last year, he has to be the closer
rememberthecoop
True story!
toptimrubies
Oblio!
Prospectnvstr
Yeah, it’s hard to believe that these “GREAT” relief pitchers have a hard time doing their job if they’re not “THE CLOSER” and can “only pitch the ninth” or last inning with a 1-3 run lead. Imo, a true “CLOSER” is a guy who comes in and either shuts down a rally or comes in and faces the heart of the order in a late/tight game.
bhambrave
That’s a fireman.
mmyechoandbunnymen
No
Milwaukee-2208
This is a trade that benefits both sides. Especially since the dodgers let Jansen walk. That bullpen looked pretty slim
BlueSkies_LA
It actually looked to be in better shape to start the season than it had in years, even though a couple of relievers aren’t going to be ready for opening day.
Tacoshells
Lol dodgers more bro
eyeball710
Both dealing from a position of strength, and filling a need.
Rsox
The White Sox yes, the Dodgers no.
Kimbrel/Hendricks were never going to be able to coexist on the White Sox roster, especially after they added Graveman and Kelly. And logically many expected Kimbrel to go at some point if they could find a taker for his contract.
The Dodgers OF depth is thin, especially after trading Beaty and now Pollock. After Betts and Bellinger you have Kevin Pillar, Jason Martin, Stephan Romero, James Outman, and the Infielders who can play the OF Chris Taylor, Gavin Lux, Zack McKinstery, Jake Lamb, Edwin Rios, and Hanser Alberto. Of that group Taylor is the only one with extensive time in the grass and Lux is learning. The others should be worst case scenario only.
TommyLasutton
Pillar in the OF is worst case scenario?
Rsox
No. But the Infielders beyond Taylor and maybe Lux yes
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Maybe they sign Conforto as someone mentioned?
iverbure
Maybe they find a OF to trade for throughout the season since there’s always a plethora available throughout the year for cheap since the market is flooded.
dodgerskingsfan
this leads me to believe a LH OF will be signed. maybe michael conforto??
eyeball710
A position of strength insofar as their team is so good offensively that it makes up for other deficiencies.
waltsneck1
Definitely a good deal for the Sox. And potentially a great addition for Dodgers. A good old fashioned trade that helps both teams.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I am shocked.
I repeatedly said that the White Sox made a mistake to pick up Kimbrel’s option and I was completely wrong.
Wow. Great deal for the White Sox. I will double-down and say bad deal for the Dodgers. Hope I am wrong again and it is win-win.
soxfan1
What if your Sox are paying most of the bill?
Schmoopkins
They are not.
Dogbone
The LAST thing the Chisox needed, was another RH hitter in their lineup.
waltsneck1
Except Pollock mashes right handed pitching.
ChicagowhiteBalls
Yeah because their offense was so bad last year with all those right handed bats.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Seems like a win-win to me. I wouldn’t mind some cash going to LA, provided it’s not a ton, but as long as no other players are involved, I’m good.
Pete'sView
No cash is being exchanged. They are both contractually owed about the same when you include Pollacks’ $5M guaranteed 2023 buyout.
leftcoaster
Kimbrel choked out 100 batters in 59 ip’s. Not sure this is a bad deal for the Dodgers.
JerseyShoreScore
Pollock could get hurt and/or Kimbrel could stink, but a rare trade that is both fair and good for both teams. Too often one team is just dumping and the other is taking back second tier prospects.
iverbure
That’s how trades work in today’s baseball. There’s too much risk in trading major league players for major league players. Ivy League gms don’t like taking risks.
sckoul
White Sox say it ain’t so!!!
DonOsbourne
The White Sox are probably breathing a huge sigh of relief. If Kimbrel had gotten injured or underperformed, they would have taken endless amounts of grief for picking up that option. Now they have avoided that pothole and filled out the OF without making a long term commitment. This is a good deal for both teams but the Sox needed it more.
sckoul
Filled out the OF? Bro we have 6 guys who can play OF now!!! Hell 7 if you include we just got a left handed RF from Phillies. Lol so where does Vaugh and Sheets fit in now? Who is gonna play 2nd base? Hell if you count Garcia we got 8 guys who can platoon RF. this was stupid. Vaugh, Sheets, Engel, Pollack, Luery Garcia, Haseley, Robert and Eloy. why do they need 8 OF’s? You got to be kidding me.
eyeball710
They can play OF, but only Pollack, Robert, Engel and Eloy are true OFs. Haseley too, but he’s no starter. Vaughn or Sheets to 1b next year the other to the OF. Do you want to win a championship this year, or pinch pennies and hoard players playing out of position?
sckoul
AJ pollock isn’t the difference between a title and no title. Be fore real. Pollock is a downgraded glove to Engel and he is like the 7th best bat on team plus he is Injury prone. I prefer to we win a playoff series before we start thinking World Series. That’s why we traded mandrigal which is looking worse by the day.
ChicagowhiteBalls
The guy from the Phillies what has he proven? Engel is not a starter and shouldn’t be same thing with Garcia these guys are utility players. Vaughn and sheets are not OF. Vaughn almost got seriously injured last week trying to make a diving catch. He’s a 1st baseman/ DH same thing with Sheets. These guys do not belong in the OF. Their young and will get their chance at first base. Abreu (35 years old) not gonna be playing 1st base much longer. They got Harrison to play 2nd base and how ever you want to look at it. He’s an upgrade over what we had last season and a former All star that could easily replicate one of this best years. If he don’t work out they also have a couple good looking prospects they can give a long look at 2nd base Romy Gonzalez had a breakout year last year. Sanchez another good looking prospect could possibly get called up. 2nd base is like the only position that doesn’t have an above average player. Their whole lineup is better now with Pollock. They didn’t need Kimbrel his value could tank the first month and they would have gotten nothing. Their Bullpen is strong without him. Vaughn, Sheets can platoon DH and also give Abreu some days off. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the White Sox trade Vaughn or maybe Sheets for a starting pitcher. They don’t need two 1st baseman
Iago407
Why? The Sox have a ton of quality arms in their pen and Kimbrel was a rollercoaster in the setup role. He gets to go be a closer for a great team and the Sox get the right fielder they need. Yeah, he’s 34 and has zero percent change of making it through the whole season without a prolonged DL stint, but he’s a .290+ hitter when healthy and he still has some pop in his bat. I’d say nice move for both sides.
fox471 Dave
I miss Pollock already.
sckoul
I don’t see this as great at all. White Sox didn’t need a RF as they had 3 players. 2 who need AB’s to play the position and 1 who is better defensively already in house. (Vaughn, Sheets, and Engel)! Any white Sox fan with a brain knows we need a 2nd Baseman. All this did was create a even larger log jam for some of our young hitters. What a win for the white Sox. Smh
mattcoz
It’s so, and it’s spectacular.
sckoul
It’s really not. Vaughn, Sheets, Engel, Pollack all to play RF!! Can any of them play 2nd base? Where is a Chris Taylor?
leftyleftylefty
Do any of you have any clue that Pollock hasn’t played one game in right field in 10 years? Jfc
prov356
Dodgers are acting like they want to win this year.
BraveLil'Toaster
Dodgers making it personal with ATL after not wanting to pay Jansen lol.
That’s okay. Give Freddie the K & Craig the Chop House treatment.
math
Dodgers did want to pay Kenley, and their offer was comparable to the Braves’. The man simply chose to leave. Nothing in this league is personal, no matter how hard fans might convince themselves.
Mickey777
What a steal for the Dodgers. A potential hall of fame closer for a #9 hitter!
BlueSkies_LA
Pollock’s 2021 batting line: .297/.355/.536/.892
Mickey777
Your point is well taken, but I believe he was battling 9th this Spring. Do you think he’ll repeat those kind of numbers?
seamaholic 2
He’s done it before, why not. Pollock is really good. This is a total steal for the White Sox.
BlueSkies_LA
His career batting line (.281/.338/.482/.819) would be good enough for any team. A lot of fans are down on Pollock. I really don’t understand why. He’s been unlucky with injuries but he plays the game well and he will be missed in LA. We’re now banking on a bounce back from Kimbrel, and that’s a longer shot than Pollock underperforming his career work.
Iago407
Why can’t he repeat those numbers? I know he’s getting up there in age, but he’s still a solid hitter either way. Meanwhile the Sox jettison an overpaid closer who wasn’t closing games for them and didn’t perform well in a setup role. I fully anticipate he’ll be better as LA’s closer, but I also think Pollock is better than a #9 hitter. We’ll see.
solaris602
His injury problems have ebbed since he’s been with the Dodgers, and when he’s on the field he’s consistently productive if unspectacular. Really hate to see Pollock go.
fox471 Dave
I actually got a Pollock jersey. He will be missed!
Rallyshirt
Dude, lol
soxwin14
wow, Kimbrel has know been traded for a #9 hitter 2 years in a row. pollack and madrigal
soxwin14
Kimbrel now traded for a #9 hitter 2 years in a row. pollack and madrigal
MLB Top 100 Commenter
mlb.com/video/aj-pollock-s-two-home-runs
WarrenSpahn
seems like he was always hurt…
Dumpster Divin Theo
I’ll trade you a Kjmbrel jersey for your Pollock jersey. If you send me $6
Cap & Crunch
Pollock was an underwater contract the day the ink dried
Still wonder who they were bidding against ….
What’s his postseason slash Blue?
How many reg season games did he start outta the last 3 years % wise …. I know you like AJ but that’s a very deceiving post (slash-line ) you made
MLB Top 100 Commenter
mlb.com/video/aj-pollock-s-two-home-runs
Get Off My Mound
That almost made me Lol. Nice try.
eyeball710
Kimbrel sure hasn’t looked like a HOF pitcher as of late. Sox needed a left handed bat. Pollock was a 3 WAR in 21. This is a Sox win.
RunDMC
To his credit, he’s been a closer his entire career and they were trying to get him to be a setup man. I know, he’s a pro and “what’s the difference pitching the 8th than the 9th”, but it’s pride/ego not to mention HoF credentials. Square peg, round hole.
Give him the ball in the 9th and he’s more likely to succeed.
Prospectnvstr
Yeah, make sure that he ONLY enters the game with a 1-3 run lead in the 9th inning. Don’t make the mistake of putting him in during the 8th or in a tie game. Why is that you ask: it’s simple. It’s because he’s “THE CLOSER”. Insert 2-3 eyeroll emojis.
Oddvark
Pollock isn’t a left handed bat.
mattcoz
No, he’s not, but he hits RHP well and that’s the point of a left handed bat.
leftcoaster
Once again, 100 k’s in 59 ip’s.
Chief Two Hands
Pollock is right-handed. He’s a good hitter, but injury prone.
BlueSkies_LA
What kind of injuries is he prone to?
coupofthecentury
09/04/2021 Hamstring 10-Day Injured List
08/20/2021 Back Day-To-Day
05/14/2021 Hamstring 10-Day Injured List
05/07/2021 Hamstring Day-To-Day
09/27/2019 Knee Day-To-Day
08/05/2019 Groin Day-To-Day
04/30/2019 Elbow 60-Day Injured List
05/15/2018 Fractured Left Thumb 10-Day Injured List
04/20/2018 Right Hand Day-To-Day
bigyoonit
@BlueSkies – Pollock had bad postseasons in 2017 and 2019. Lots of Ks in 2019. Can’t blame fans for being down on that. I suppose it’s technically true that he’s had unlucky/freak injuries but he’s been on long and numerous IL stints as a D-Back and Dodger.
BlueSkies_LA
So his bones are more breakable? Good luck proving that theory, doc.
And good luck finding any player who hasn’t suffered a hamstring injury. It would be a shorter list than the ones who have.
bluesteele
BlueSkies…seriously the worst post ever! You’re not familiar with AJ’s injury history? You’ve posted 120 times on this string and I’m now discounting every opinion you have! Bro!!!’
bhambrave
Multiple hamstring injuries is a red flag. Those can become chronic problems. Just ask Ender Inciarte.
BlueSkies_LA
I am plenty familiar with it, way more than you it seems. I know even if you don’t that the injuries really slowing him down for many years were broken bones. Last I checked, broken bones were not a chronic condition. They are bad luck impact injuries. Even Friedman said as much when he signed Pollock. So maybe you need to discount all of his opinions too, bro!
fox471 Dave
Bro? Did you just say bro? Lord! Blue Skies doesn’t need me to defend him but he is usually right about players and he is right about Pollock. Now, the Dodger FO? Not so much.
Cosmo2
That amount of injuries isn’t bad luck, that’s an injury prone player
Cosmo2
Yes, Blueskies, some players bones, muscles etc are more prone to damage than others. This is somehow news to you?
BlueSkies_LA
Thanks doc. It’s always good to hear an informed medical opinion.
Cosmo2
Right because one need be a doctor in order to understand basic, obvious realities such as: humans are different, not all bodies are the same.
BlueSkies_LA
Right so breaking bones is genetic. Such obvious realties. I wonder how that never occurred to me before. It never occurred to Andrew Friedman either apparently. Maybe you should give him a call.
CoachBlake
Pollock bats RH..
ChiSox_Fan
And throws right handed
BlueSkies_LA
So that makes him…. right-handed?
Dogbone
Chisox don’t need another RH bat.
IronBallsMcGinty
Gonna be lots of fireworks on the South side this summer. You should come out to a game.
waltsneck1
Handedness isn’t important when you have a right-handed hitter in Pollock who tears up right handed pitching. He’s a perfect fit for the Sox.
waltsneck1
Huge win for the Sox. But Pollock is a right handed hitter. And Kimbrel will benefit from being in his more familiar closer role.
ChiSox_Fan
You must have missed Kimbrel’s crappy performance once he joined the White Sox last year.
Maybe he will rebound assuming he is closing again.
Cmurphy
You’re assuming you’re getting the Kimbrel of the first half of 2021 and the Pollack of past years.
Pollack is a good hitter, just has some trouble staying healthy. Kimbrel has great stuff, when he settles in. For the Cubs, it took nearly a year for that settling in. The Sox got crap from him. .
Time will tell but maybe the Sox got the better end of the deal.
fox471 Dave
#9 hitter? Are you punking us, now? Really dumb take, Mickey 777
Dorothy_Mantooth
@Mickey777 – If Pollock is a #9 hitter, I’d love to see the rest of that lineup; it would read like an all-star team. Pollock can be slotted in any team’s lineup between 2nd & 6th; possibly 7th if they are staggering LH & RH batters. Pollock is an excellent hitter and is still quite good defensively as well. So long as he can remain healthy, White Sox players and fans will really enjoy having him on the team. Unless Kimbrel can find his 1st half form from last season and repeat it for a full season, it sure seems like Chicago got the better of the Dodgers in this trade.
everlastingdave
Sox news that doesn’t annoy me? Must be April Fool’s.
getrealgone2
Watch Kimbrel be utter trash. Hah
ChunkyMonkey
I’m sure you’d love to see that.
mattcoz
Sox fans already did, that’s why we’re happy about this.
Deleted Userr
Pollock a -$1m on BTV. So the exact lower bound of what was an acceptable return for Kimbrel.
I still think declining the option would have been better than exercising it and trading him for Pollock.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Well, that depends on what they would have done with the money saved. And it would have been better still to hold onto Madrigal, but what’s done is done. I’m just glad they salvaged some value despite their poor decisions.
Deleted Userr
Not sure this counts as salvaging value. Pollock is always hurt and is owed a lot of money. Plus a player option which will be exercised if and only if the White Sox don’t want it to be.
Cap & Crunch
The option is also a very odd where he takes 5 mill to walk or plays for 10
So essentially it means if he still wants to play and feels he can get better than a 1/5 he walks and CWS pay 5 mill for nothing next year
davidk1979
Good trade for both teams imo
Wowwwwww
Rare move where I think both sides got a good deal. Kimbrel comes with regression risk. Pollock injury risk. But both were positions of need for the receiving club. So as long as the white Sox aren’t paying the majority of Kimbrel salary still then I say win/win for both sides!
mils100
A really solid trade for the White Sox if he can stay healthy.. Kimbrel is still good but relievers, esp. closers, are just overrated. Dodgers would have been just fine w/out Kimbrel – not like they are not a playoff lock today. Kimbrel has also not been Kimbrel of old for a few years now either. With Bellinger of concern, would’ve kept Pollock around and figured out the bullpen during the season.
jdgoat
Seems like a great deal for the White Sox to me.
getrealgone2
Reeks of desperation from Dodgers.
bluesteele
How? They are stacked with talent. How is a K relief pitcher with a low 2 era ever bad to add? I’ll take strong bullpen depth over OF flexibility any day!
5TUNT1N
I don’t think it’s a desperate move, I will def. Agree they weren’t as high on their bullpen as their fans. This is a way for them to shore up their pen without adding any money to the books or losing any prospects. Not a bad move but the timing of it has a hint of desperation so I know what you are saying.
The reality like most baseball people already knew, the bullpen is their weakest link. This has the ability to bring it to more of a standard in the league than pushing it to any height or strengths within the clubs roster.
ChunkyMonkey
This guy
fox471 Dave
Reeks of desperation, get real? The Dodgers? The Dodger AAA club could beat 25 major league clubs on a regular basis. Yeah, they are obviously panicking. Sad to see.
Rallyshirt
The Wrath of Hahn
hooligan
Old school trade! Useful ML player for another useful ML player, how rare to see it?!
mannyl101
Haha you are correct sir! These idiot owners over pay then salary dump-a never ending cycle of stupidity
solaris602
Yeah, the Reds had conditioned us to their “send us your crap and we’ll send you our jewels” transaction approach. This trade could actually be a win-win.
ski44
Pollock 6 career games played in RF. None since 2013.
ChiSox_Fan
Well he can play right center so Robert can cheat toward LF.
Get Off My Mound
I mean, do the White Sox really need any other outfielder when they have Luis Robert just running the entire outfield?
whyhayzee
This trade is fishy.
phenomenalajs
The Marlins weren’t involved, so I don’t see how…
bhambrave
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollock
LordD99
Good deal for both teams.
Wilmer the Thrillmer
A big win for the White Sox. Pollock has been outstanding in his 2 seasons with the Dodgers.
Between Graterol and Treinen I thought the Dodgers were pretty well set in the 8th & 9th.
Kimbrel is a Hall of Famer based on what he’s already done. The Dodgers don’t need him to close but if he regains his form, Doc will find opportunities for him.
Still, big win for Chicago.
stymeedone
I don’t see how relegating Andrew Vaughn to platoon DH is a win. He should be an everyday player. Pollack is a good player, but it seems like Hahn got what he could to move kimbrel. Pollack may work out, but a lefty OF or a 2B would have been better fits.
snoopy369
There’s plenty of at bats for Vaughn to have. Platoon DH, some innings spelling Eloy in left, spelling Abreu at first.. Sheets will be the one missing more innings, and well could end up at AAA to start the season.
Once the season starts, having too many bats is a problem exactly nobody has.
waltsneck1
Handedness doesn’t matter. Pollock crushes right handed pitching. And Vaughn will get his ABs as a rotation piece in LF, RF and DH. Or he’ll be a trade piece.
stymeedone
To put a long term piece (Vaughn) to the side to play someone on a one year contract (Pollock) makes little sense. For a team that seems maxed on payroll, you would think having younger and cheaper players to build around would be prioritized. Getting Vaughn and Sheets ABs would leave money for other needs. Picking up Kimbrel’s option was the mistake, but now it will have lasting repercussions on the career of their best young player. This was salvage by Hahn. He had to move Kimbrel. At no point did I ever see anyone saying how they should trade him for a similarly priced RH hitting OF. They should win the division with, or without Pollock. The future would have been better with Vaughn playing everyday.
Cap & Crunch
A- Its been 3 years but I see how you say 2 as he’s always Dl’ed
B- He has not been terrific per contract…. a small bust in fact
C- He has pulled a Houdini for 3 playoffs in a row NOWHERE to be found
hammr85
ok padres make your move, mariners need a pitcher.
amk1920
Dodgers bullpen is so nasty. Good lord
RunDMC
Interesting: CHW picked up Kimbrel’s 16M option
Pollock makes 13M in 2022 (10M player option / 5M buyout).
Does Lux take over on a more permanent role now in OF?
mannyl101
No! 2B & OF reserve@best! We will see!
Dorothy_Mantooth
Check that math there RunDMC: $10M salary + $5M buyout = $XX M??? (Hint: it is not $13M). Just busting your balls a little bit ;-).
The deal nets CHI $1M in payroll savings, but that was not the goal here. CHI exercised Kimbrel’s option hoping they would find a taker for his services and they did exactly what they were hoping to do. Job well done by Hahn & Co.
dodgersblues
Do the Sox need an outfielder thry have Klay Thomason’s brother!
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Trayce Thompson actually came up through the Sox’ system. And no thanks.
jsaldi
We will miss pollock. It opens the door to keep Rios and probably Lamb as the dh!Aldo puts Lux at 2nd and Taylor every day in LGD
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Love this deal for both sides. Sox round out their OF and get their leftie hitter. The Dodgers get their closer and strengthen their biggest weakness. Great move all the way around. I’m just hoping nobody else from the Sox is going to LA. Cash I’m ok with.
jhomeslice
Pollock is a righty, but he hits lefties pretty well. Very well last year actually.
Love this move. Finally, something positive!
hyraxwithaflamethrower
You’re right. Sorry, somebody else mentioned lefty, I thought. Even so, I still love the move. More than I thought they’d get for Kimbrel.
jhomeslice
Much, much more. I mean, I can’t even believe the Dodgers did this. Pollock makes only 10M, and the Sox did not even have to send money back in the deal. I just hope Pollock is healthy, but he is a totally legit outfielder who immediately changes their whole depth picture. No more nonsense about Haseley getting at bats, with a career OPS sub .700.
mattcoz
The point of a left handed bat is to hit righties well, and he does that too. Last year he hit them better than lefties.
jhomeslice
@mattcoz
Yeah, it drives me crazy that people get excited about a “left handed bat” when it’s some scrub like Haseley who is a very weak hitter. As you said, the point of a lefty bat is to hit righties well. Which Pollock does pretty well, and Springer does amazingly well, even though both are right handed.
waltsneck1
Not sure why Haseley matters. He’s a minor league depth guy with major league experience. Good acquisition.
LordD99
Seems to be a one-for-one, no cash going in either direction.
Stevil
Makes me wonder if Conforto is a target for LA, or if they’re just really high on Outman. Not a ton of OF depth on the active roster at the moment.
solaris602
I can only see them signing Conforto if they traded more big salary off the roster, and I don’t know who that would be. Friedman won’t want to surrender the draft pick any way.
Rsox
Price would be the only remaining big salary they could try to move. If they pay down a part of it and attach a prospect they could probably find a taker (Mets immediately come to mind with deGrom shut down for at least a month. Mariners could use Another starter)
JeffreyChungus
I listened to a podcast with Robert Murray from last Monday where he announced this on the show then said it was a false alarm. Maybe he was on to something lol
youtube.com/watch?v=EH44n3C6VDU
Eric Olson 2
Good value for both teams and it addresses each other’s needs without giving up the house. I like it for both sides!
dodgersfan445
My only complaint is bellinger is so bad that I wanted Taylor in center pollock in left and bellinger in triple a. Bullpen is godly now at least
DonOsbourne
This does put more pressure on Bellinger to get it together. Or should I say it puts more pressure on the Dodgers to have a solid back up plan in case Bellinger can’t get it together. It kind of puts them in the exact situation the Sox were in with Kimbrel. Now if Bellinger struggles, it amplifies the criticism of extending that QO.
WarrenSpahn
speaking of Bellinger…is he ever going to be good again, or what? I know he had a serious injury, but they can’t keep him in the lineup hitting a buck fifty…
bravesnation nc
Announced, Braves have a RF pick up in May RONALD ACUNA JR! Boy is gonna go off this year. Book it!
rememberthecoop
That’s a win for the Sox. Although not great defensively, he has pop and is coming off a good season. I’m sure most Sox fans would take a bag of balls for Kimbrel, he was so bad with them last year. Awful trade for the Sox – the Cubs unloaded him when his value was highest.
Iago407
Yeah I’d absolutely take Madrigal over Pollock, no question. Still, it’s nice that they were able to get something that helps as opposed to carrying Kimbrel’s bloated contract in to the season. Sox already have a solid bullpen on paper. Made no sense to hold on to him, so I’m glad they’re at least moving him for something that can help.
Rallyshirt
Problem with Madrigal is he’s well below power numbers for position. He’s almost the ideal pinch-hitter?
Dumpster Divin Theo
Problem with Madrigal is he’s a sieve defensively, is a bad baserunning and lacks baseball IQ. But lots of singles!
Cap & Crunch
Not great defensively …..It kooks like the guys going to pull a hammy every time he runs
Some scattered DH abs will do him well
bravesnation nc
Better hope he is the Cubs version!
Holy Cow!
Better hope he is the Braves version.
mannyl101
Wow! Kinda disappointed! Pollock really grew on me & I was a fan! Wish him the best! Let’s hope Kimbrel can find his stuff! I was actually excited about the bullpen before the trade!
Ron Tingley
Kimbrel is a mystery. If he is the guy in the first half of of last year, insane. If he is the second half of the guy or the last two seasons, yikes. Crazy during some of his most successful years he walked more guys than hits givin up. Beast mode when he’s on. Good trade. Pollock was great but also not the most durable. Go Doyers
Ronk325
This seems like a big loss on the Dodgers end. Kimbrel was awful after going to the White Sox and Pollock is a good hitter, regardless of where he was slated to hit in their lineup. You’d have to think the Dodgers still have major concerns about Pollock’s health to just unload him like this. It’s also possible that they didn’t want to be on the hook for Pollock next year as well if he were to exercise his option
PutPeteinthehall
Kimbrel will be fine in LA as long as he starts the ninth. He’s not good when coming in with runners on. Even if he was my closer I’d probably not let him pitch in the tenth inning. Good move for the Sox as Kimbrel is not good for any other role than closer and they already possess two of last years best. Pollock will benefit from a strong lineup where he will see some pitches
Adolpho67
Thank God now Kimbrel can pitch in the role he is familiar with! LaRussa has no clue and was unfairly damaging Kimbrel’s value by using him as a setup man. You’re finally free Craig!!
waltsneck1
LaRussa has nothing to do with Kimbrel’s struggles. He struggled for the better part of the last four years on and off.
ASapsFables
I had the Dodgers as a strong matchup for the White Sox in a potential Craig Kimbrel trade following the Braves signing of free agent closer Kenley Jansen. It came to pass with an outfielder who can hit and cover all three positions for the White Sox including RF.
Rsox
Friedman and Roberts must have finally looked at the backend of the bullpen and realized that while they have a few good setup guys, none of them are Closers.
I expect Kimbrel to pitch more like he did with the Cubs than after he was traded to the White Sox.
This move clears away the whole Kimbrel/Hendricks distraction for the White Sox while also making it possible for them to DH Eloy Jimenez without having to have Vaughn and Sheets in the OF at the same time
tasteefreeze
How does it allow Eloy to DH? Pollock either plays LF, or RF. Not both.
stymeedone
Vaughn plays the other side. Eloy to DH.
snoopy369
I don’t think the suggestion is Eloy to permanent DH, but he’ll probably DH 30-40 games, Vaughn 30-40, Sheets 30-40, Abreu 30-40, Grandal 30-40. The point is that before this trade, Eloy couldn’t DH in *any* game unless you wanted an outfield that was basically “Luis Robert or pray”, or started both Leury Garcia and Josh Harrison, which is not optimal for obvious reasons.
waltsneck1
Right! The Sox don’t want an everyday DH. They view that spot as a rotational and match up spot. Tony likes the flexibility to mix and match.
theo2016
Even after this trade the white Sox still have the best bullpen in the bigs. Bummer, Kelly, crochet, graveman, Hendricks.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Braves’ BP might still be better, but yeah, it’s pretty strong. They even have a better-than-average long man in Lopez.
ChiSox_Fan
Crochet left last night’s game with injury after facing only one batter.
Hope he is not seriously hurt.
mattcoz
He is. 🙁
Rsox
TJ surgery for Crochet.
The White Sox still have a solid bullpen with Hendricks, Graveman, Kelly, Bummer, Ruiz, Velasquez, and Lopez. Burr or Rios could also be in the ‘pen
fred-3
People in here think Pollock is going to repeat his 2021 season, which was his best since the mid 2010s
BlueSkies_LA
Some people in here think he doesn’t need to do that. Repeating his career line, or his line from last year or the year before that, is plenty good enough to improve any team.
fred-3
Im just saying, the Dodgers are selling high here on a 34 yr old who had his best season in years.
BlueSkies_LA
Nothing really wrong with his last five seasons. This is the kind of performance any team would be buying. Likewise the Dodgers aren’t buying Kimbrel’s 2021 season. Regression to the mean is fine for both players.
Cap & Crunch
Agree Fred… The Aj contract was a bad one and today spells that out in clear letters….No clue who they were ever bidding against day they inked that
Sorry Blue know your a Pollock fan
HBan22
Pollock was equally as good in 2020. He has an .890 OPS in his last 600 at bats, and an OPS of nearly .850 since 2014. He has always been a talented hitter, and at one point I believe he readjusted his swing to hit for more power. He’s not great defensively anymore, but his bat has aged very well and he could have a big season in that White Sox lineup.
Rallyshirt
Pollock is projected for 22 HRs in Dodger Stadium. That will be higher at The Rake. White Sox have a 70+ HR outfield now, and should fare on 98 wins.
flamingbagofpoop
I will absolutely take the under on 98 wins for the WS.
waltsneck1
I’ll take the over. They won 93 games last year without Eloy, Grandal, Robert and Madrigal for the majority of the year.
canyon2129
For sure. They won last year with half the team not playing. If they all play this year, serious Championship threat.
mlbdodgerfan2015
I agree that Pollock has overachieved but they have less options in the outfield and Kimbrel has risks. Dodgers put more risk in their roster profile. Taylor as a super sub had more value and now he’s a full on starter and need to rely on someone else for a chunk of at bats. I’m not sure if Rios or Lux are ready to contribute meaningfully on a large sample size. If Bellinger collapses again what do you do?
TradeAcuna
Bad trade for the Dodgers.
The Dodgers are beyond overrated this year. They got Freeman but lost Seager, their rotation is weak after Urias, and the bullpen is unpredictable. Now their depth is worse!
TradeAcuna
Just to add, I just saw Pollack’s stats – he was sneaky terrific last season. Yep, this trade is bad for the Dodgers. The guy is a starter for most other teams and traded him away for a declining and always overrated closer.
mlbdodgerfan2015
I agree. Scratching my head on spending money on Anderson and Heaney, and then going after Kimbrel and dumping Pollock when Bellinger is very risky in the OF. Bullpen was fine.
snoopy369
@Steve – I’m not sure about that $10M figure you mention – BBR (baseball-reference.com/players/p/polloaj01.shtml) lists $13M this year plus $5M buyout, which makes sense given his $18M salary last year.
snoopy369
Figured out the issue – $3M of signing bonus is included on Baseball Reference.
LordD99
That makes it appear the signing bonus was paid in installments. Whose responsibility is it this year?
Lumps of Cole
According to Cots, his signing bonus has already been paid.
$12M signing bonus ($4M installments on 2/28/19, 5/1/19, 7/1/19)
However, they also report that he is due a $1.5M assignment bonus with this trade which alters the math if accurate.
Bounty Hunters IA
Happy for Kimbrel to get out of the south side cesspool. LA is a much better spot for him to pitch. Pollock is injury prone so he’ll fit in great at guaranteed fail ballpark.
BlueSkies_LA
What injuries is he prone to?
math
Last year he hit .297 but played in less than 120 games. The Dodgers weren’t holding him out of the lineup, he was, yes, injured
JoeBrady
I think the WS did okay here. I don’t like Pollack in RF for them, but his bat should make up for it.
sdbaseballguy
I assumed that Price and a prospect were going for Kimbrel but so be it.
HBan22
I honestly think this is a great trade for the White Sox. I think many were skeptical that Kimbrel would fetch much of a return considering how badly he struggled after joining the White Sox last year, but they landed a legitimate starting corner outfielder (which they needed) who has been a well above average hitter since the beginning of 2020. I think Pollock is a safer bet to be successful this season than Kimbrel too.
JoeBrady
I can’t believe that Kimbrel is not available in any of my fantasy leagues.
bhambrave
I can’t believe that you can’t believe that.
lebowskiachiever
Correction on the Pollock’s salary – he is due $13 million in 2022, not $10 million as stated. Thus the Dodgers owed him $18 million (2022 plus a $5 million buyout for 2023). This deal saves them $2 million. Not sure about the luxury tax implications, but in terms or actual dollars, this represents a savings for LA.
Holy Cow!
No. If you’re looking at BR, they prorate signing bonuses over the term of the contract. The question now is who will pay the assignment bonus?
bhambrave
MLB.com had the White Sox pen ranked #2, and the Dodgers #8. I wonder how much this trade affects those rankings.
The lineups were #1 Dodgers, #3 White Sox. The Dodgers are still #1 imo, but do the White Sox jump over Toronto?
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I could see any of those teams leading baseball in runs, assuming their big guns are healthy. Toronto has more top-end talent, including the best hitter on any of those three teams in Vlad, Jr., but I think the Sox have a better bottom of the order than Toronto. LA is still stacked top to bottom, especially if Bellinger can rediscover anything close to his pre-2020 form.
As for BP, it strengthens the Dodgers without really weakening the Sox. The Sox couldn’t offer him a closer role and that’s where he thrives. He says the right things about it to the media, but the numbers don’t lie. Assuming he’s the closer and Treinen remains a great setup guy, the Dodgers could sneak into a top 5 pen if Kimbrel even carries his 2021 season averages over.
snoopy369
I think the Crochet injury probably hurts more than this trade does… but between the two it probably drops them to 6-7 in the bullpen rankings, and maybe the Dodgers move ahead of them.
Lineup wise – I’d rather have the White Sox’s lineup than Toronto.
snakqadj
What if Bellinger keeps being 2021 Bellinger? What would the Dodgers do? Gavin Lux maybe?
WarrenSpahn
he still looks lost at the plate…
Canosucks
First bad move I saw the Dodgers make; oh well I guess everyone is entitled to one.
The only thing they could do worse is sign Conforto!
Gooberberry
Don’t forget the trade of Alvarez to the Astros. As a dodger fan, I really think Friedman is a bit overrated. Much of the current dodger team was actually drafted/developed by his predecessors .
angt222
ChiSox got their RF. Another team out of the Conforto market.
tcav1222
Pollock isn’t a RFer he has 6 career games played there
amjr
Scratching my head. They have too many quality arms in the bullpen now – even if some will start the season on the DL:
Kimbrel
Treiner
Graterol
Hudson
González
Bruihl
Bickford
Ferguson
Vesia
Kahnle
Phillips
Anderson
Cleavenger
Price
fred-3
Some of those guys are hurt and will start the season on the DL
amjr
Which is what I said!
BlueSkies_LA
What? I can’t hear you! Please type louder!
mlbdodgerfan2015
Some of those are not quality arms and not a lot of proven elite arms. I have no issues Dodgers spending for one more elite type bullpen arm. But why not keep Jansen and Pollock? High upside for Kimbrel but health and performance concerns too.
Timothy Frith
Maybe the Mets could trade Travis Blankenhorn, Yennsy Diaz, Thomas Szapucki and prospects Ronny Mauricio and Joander Suarez to the Brewers for Josh Hader and Christian Yelich, sign Tony Watson to a 1-year deal with a club option for 2023 and name Dom Smith their DH.
math
Why would the Brewers do this?
whirlybird
Assuming Kimbrel gets back to his All-Star caliber with the move back to the 9th inning, I think this is a great trade for both teams.
Trading for closers can be quite the gamble, but those shutdown relievers can also be what gets you to the World Series.
fred-3
RF Betts
1B Freeman
SS Turner
DH Muncy
C Smith
3B Turner
CF Bellinger
LF Taylor
2B Lux
Lux gets everyday at bats now
mlbdodgerfan2015
Not sure if that is a good thing. Lux getting at bats every day. At least not until he proves he can hit and field.
Cap & Crunch
Great thing IMO
Lux is going to be vital to the org these next 4 + years
Gooberberry
Significantly weaker without pollack in there. I don’t know how/why he was so underrated. With Beaty gone too, this will seriously test the OF depth, especially if Bellinger struggles again
AngryBaseballFan1982
Hahaha. Yesterday TLR “We’ll win with what we have.”
Today:. Sox trade for veteran outfield help
I like it. Thank goodness Kimbrel is gone. Rather have Madrigal back
cwsOverhaul
This works to improve OF defense. Hope Pollock can provide our WSox around 100 starts in mix of LF/RF. Rather see Vaughn/Sheets “masquerade” somewhere as the writer put it than Eloy-who should DH more since that’s his value if he can mentally accept it’s best for the team. Good old school trade!
jhomeslice
@cws nice comment. Yeah there is little not to like about this trade from a Sox perspective. Rather than trot out Vaughn in RF, he can split time with Eloy in left, and spell Sheets at DH vs lefties. This just adds SO much depth to their outfield, plus much better defense.
Just hope the guy stays healthy. Best move of their offseason, which doesn’t say much, because it was enormously better than everything else they’ve done.
math
Pollock hasn’t played RF since 2013.
SupremeZeus
I don’t think people have been watching Kimbrel the past two years. Maybe the Dodgers can fix him, right now he is cooked. My prediction is Kimbrel will be DFAed before the end of the season and Pollock will be on the IL a significant part of the year. Overall the White Sox are getting the much better end of this bargain.
bobsugar84
Kimbrel is not so good without his sticky fingers and the pine tar on his hat. Pollock had the second highest OPS on the Dodgers last year. White Sox won this deal.
math
Pollock was great but had less than 400 AB, ie, was not a qualified hitter
msqboxer
Should work out for both teams…Pollack will help the CWS and it now puts into question the glut of players that may be available for trade. Sheets, Adolfo, Engel, Cespedes and maybe Vaughn if they think Sheets is the future at 1B. Could they be in the Montas and Manena market? Kimbrel has the attitude the Dodgers need and he can be the most dominate closer in baseball or not, but the Dodgers have enough arms to cover when things are going bad for Kimbrel until he gets it figured out.
Holy Cow!
Vaughn is the future at 1B unless they trade him for Montas.
Echopark
I actually think another trade is coming for the Dodgers – though nothing this big. Something like Cleavinger, Phillips or Nunez possibly being moved to free up a 40-man.
I agree with those who don’t think this means Dodgers are signing Conforto.
Lamb and Pillar as depth pieces made this trade more possible. If the Dodgers go with 15 pitchers to start, my bench would include Alberto, Lamb, and Pillar. With Rios going to AAA only to get consistent playing time, not because he has anything to prove. But Rios deserves to make the team otherwise. (I have Pillar on OD roster to be able to spell/platoon Bellinger and to keep the pressure on Bellinger to adapt to reality. But nobody seems to agree with me!).
I AM bummed about losing Pollock. Commenters are forgetting he was a Gold Glove finalist last year – he doesn’t just rake.
Rallyshirt
I think LA fans will be happy about Kimbrel. Dodgers project to win many games by large margins anyway, and you needed to replace Jansen with someone proven.
Hanser Alberto is a good player too. I think you guys will like him.
mhdunbar99
Dodger fans, I hope you will enjoy watching your closer walk the bases loaded in the 9th. It will be a new LA tradition!
Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies
New? Jansen did that on a regular basis.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Whatever happened to our resident Dodgers superfan Say Hey Ron Cey??? Haven’t seen him in ages.
SpendNuttinWinNuttin
Maybe a blockbuster in 2015 lol
Get Off My Mound
Another outfielder for Luis Robert to steal flyballs from.
sss847
he won’t play a full season but i love this move.
allows the Sox to use the DH platoon of Vaughn & Sheets at DH where they belong. saves a couple million bucks, and pollock is probably the 7th/8th hitter in this lineup. that’s pretty good.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Anyone else think this might mean Sheets is gone as part of a deal for Manaea?
Rallyshirt
Keuchel tho.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
They can eat 2/3 of his salary and still find a taker. Reliably eating innings, even at a poor rate, has some value to lower-tier teams.
Rallyshirt
I think we’re better off keeping all that money and Keuchel being our 4 or 5
hyraxwithaflamethrower
The money’s gone either way. For me, it’s only the prospect cost that might be a hang up. Keuchel hasn’t looked good so far and he looked terrible last year. Maybe you’re more bullish on him returning to form than I am.
jhomeslice
@hyrax
Keuchel threw 4 scoreless against Dodger regulars, no? He isn’t a high velocity pitcher who is old, and has a really good track record aside from last year. I think he will be decent even if not great. He was top 5 in Cy in 2020 incredibly, I think he’ll be somewhere in the middle between 2020 and 2021 production, hopefully.
Cap & Crunch
Problem w DK his best weapon is his innings eating ability BUT if he hits 160 this year he triggers a 20 mill option for next year
What a conundrum …. probably hurts his value too much to trade
tcav1222
Don’t think it’s worth giving up sheets for only 1 year of Manaea.. that would cause another issue for us as sheets is really the only power lefty bat we have in our lineup
Polish Hammer
Salary cap? Why would we need one of them when you can have a couple mega teams and the rest of the league schedule fillers?
FoxSox
If only someone would have thought of this….
mlbtraderumors.com/2022/03/quick-hits-humidors-dod…
VonPurpleHayes
Love it for the Sox. Actually works out for both teams.
99socalfrc
Dodgers selling high after Pollock had a pretty nice bounceback year in 2021.
Sure wish the Padres front office could like take a GM’ing class from the Dodgers or something???
bhambrave
@SoCal: They should just take an assistant GM. Everyone else does.
Gooberberry
Is it really selling high if the return is a relief pitcher with a 5+ ERA after spider tack was eliminated last year? I’m not so sure
Mickey Steverman
These greedy scumbags are never satisfied. Of course they weren’t going to stand pat. Surprised they didn’t buy Kimbrel last year. Pollock will probably be mediocre in Chicago.
bhambrave
Old school trade. Remember when teams had to get the commissioner’s approval if they wanted to do a trade involving more than a $1M difference in money? I think it was Selig who threw that out the window.
Cap & Crunch
Love these types of trades
Moneyballer
Prediction: somehow, someway Adam Eaton will be out there by the end of the year! It’s the white sox way, they just can’t quit the man.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Waah! What?
msqboxer
I still think the CWS have another trade coming up here before the season starts. Micker Adolfo is out of options and had a great spring training and several other players blocked and ready to play in the MLB like Zach Collins and Gavin Sheets. Might be enticing to maybe say Oakland for Montas or Manena. Pollack might be trade bait at the deadline depending on how Cespedes and Colas do down in Charlotte.
heiniemanush
Don’t think LAD are done. Guessing they upgrade LF by trade. Taylor too valuable as a super utility guy.
ChiSoxCity
Oh look, yet another aging, injury prone player on a short term contract to fill an enormous hole in the roster.
Way to go Jerry! You get to spend less money, and give the ‘unwashed’ horde fans what they want.
Pollock will be va on the injured list before the AS game, and split in free agency when the season ends. Which means this team will be right back where it started looking for a RF. That is so sad it’s pathetic, especially for a so-called championship contender in the 3rd largest media market in America!
Rallyshirt
Chisox, getting a big contract guy is bad for our core. We have a 70+ HR outfield now!
Don’t miss the boat on this one.
ChiSoxCity
Apparently, Jerry (owner of 2 professional sports franchises in a major market) doesn’t have enough money to sign a viable OF to a long term contract. He needs more money to cram into his casket with him when he finally slips on a banana peel.
And isn’t cute how the league plays keep away with the White Sox? First Mookie Betts, then Bryce Harper. Not to mention all of the young talent the Pirates have been itching to deal. Somehow they all end up elsewhere.
Sox fans aren’t dumb. When this team fails miserably in the postseason (AGAIN), we will remember this. When team assets get sold or scrapped in a few years, we will remember.
Rallyshirt
Hey, maybe we don’t have all the sizzle at 2B. But it’s fine. We’re not the Yankees of 1998.
Dumpster Divin Theo
ChiSoxCity you must be fun at parties.
ChiSoxCity
Sorry, I don’t drink the koolaid. You want to play make believe and trust the team, go right ahead. Facts are facts. This owner doesn’t give a rats a## about winning anything. They could have gotten a much better deal if they wanted to. The timing of this trade is curious too, being the same day they announce the Crochet news. Jerry loves doing this.
fox471 Dave
You won this trade, dummy! Pollock is the real deal. You probably spent all last year complaining about Kimbrel.
waltsneck1
You’ve got to kidding, ChiSoxCity. Pollock is an unbelievable return for Kimbrel and fills a position of need. You seem to be nonsensically complaining just to complain.
ChiSoxCity
Pollock long list of recent injuries suggests he won’t be in the lineup much this season. Add to that his short term contract. He is yet another stopgap player on a team with championship aspirations. Not happening if they don’t add better players to fill the RF and 2B slots. History has a habit of repeating itself for teams like the Sox (2 playoff game wins in two years).
waltsneck1
Bitter much?
jhomeslice
@chisox
I’m usually with you on Reinsdorf rants, and while it would have been better to spend on someone better like Schwarber or Castellanos, all else equal this was a very good move that makes the team better. I mean Pollock played in nearly 120 games last year with very solid numbers across the board, including hitting against right handed pitchers very well. I wish we had a different owner and got someone like Semien or Baez instead of two utility players, but getting anything of value for Kimbrel is a miracle in itself. This is a move to be happy about, even if it’s not the kind of move in the free agent market we were all hoping for. Anyway hope you cheer up and look at it with a small bit of optimism at least, even if this is no reason to change opinion about Reinsdorf.
ChiSoxCity
I became a White Sox fan at 10-11 years old. I’m 50 now. What in the hell is there to be optimistic about with this team?
knuck2
They won’t have to look any further than down on the farm for a RF….read Cedpedes/Colas.
halloffamernobodycares
I don’t remember this Dodger FO making a trade and looking back on it saying it was a bad one.
Shrutefarm
The Alvarez for Josh Fields trade comes to mind.
jeffsueu
April 18; the date I have in the Pool for Pollock’s first trip to the DL on a hammy!
sckoul
Vaugh and Sheets lose AB’s, Engel is a better glove than Pollack, white Sox needed a 2nd baseman more, Traded their 1 piece they wanted gone that could’ve gotten a 2nd baseman, and now the white Sox have 8 OF’s lol how was this good for them? Dodgers win. Nick Mandrigal for AJ Pollack is not a win.
AWard
Of the 8 alleged OFs the Sox have, only 2, Robert and Jimenez, are legit everyday OFs. Vaughn and Sheets are 1B/DH types. Engle is an acceptable back-up.. Pollack should be a plus
hyraxwithaflamethrower
You’re being generous on Eloy. He has the speed to be a decent OF, but not the knack. And Engle is really good as far as defensive replacement / 4th OF go.
Led Hoyer
Eloy is pretty awful in left. He should be nearly a full time dh. This actually seems like a very smart trade for the white Sox. It hurts a little to say.
sckoul
Bro Vaugh and sheets are equal to Eloy. What do you mean? to my point. We had corner OF’s who carried big bats and Engel was defensive replacement. Now we sit a bat to get a injury prone contact hitter who’s glove is no better. Lol
Jaysfansince92
You are aware that Pollack had a higher Ops than any of the three players you named and is better defensively than Vaughn and Sheets. In fact the three players only combined for 2.0 WAR last year (Sheets and Vaughn gave so much back with the glove they only managed 0.2 a piace) while AJ had 3.1 WAR. Seems like an upgrade to me.
up2drew
Craig Kimbrel has pitched 95-2/3 innings over the last three years.
For 36-2/3 of those innings (four months of 2021 with the Cubs), he was terrific: 0.49 ERA, 23 saves, 13 BB, 64 K, 1 HR allowed.
For those other, inconvenient, 59 innings, covering most of three seasons: 5.64 ERA, 16 saves, 34 BB, 94 K, 16 HR allowed..
He’s 34 years old, making $16 million.
Seriously, what are the Dodgers thinking?
MadSkillsUniversity
Glad to see Kimbrel gone. He is a closer not a setup man, and that trade with the Cubs was just bad. I’d rather still have little Nicky, and relieve pitching is not why we were one and done in the playoffs.
Shrutefarm
Pollock is an above average hitter and still has great speed. However, I would like to point out that he has a below average throwing arm. I’m not sure how well he is going to work out in right field for the White Sox.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
A number of people think the Sox should pull the plug on Eloy in left and make him a full-time DH. His arm wouldn’t matter as much in left and they can use Vaughn and Sheets as a platoon in right.
nrd1138
Given AJs injury history, I see Pollack in RF platooning with Sheets in LF (or whoever the hot hitter is)… at least with Vaughn out, Eloy is likely in LF still and looked average at least glove wise after coming back from the injury.
The Brokenheart Kid
When I heard that the Sox had traded Kimbrel to a SoCal team for a fish in the outfield, naturally I thought it was Trout.
jhomeslice
Trout makes way too much money for Reinsdorf to even consider.
Cap & Crunch
Love this for Lad …. Pollocks a toad and we get outta his 23 money owed
Lux development gets a bump, bullpen gets a bump, young guns on the bn (Rios, Amaya McKinstry ect ect get small bump
fox471 Dave
Dumb take.
Palehose23
The Southside Hitmen!
crazywarrior
Are you sure thats enough Doders? Gonna be fun watching them lose again
Go Giants!
Chisox378
Im glad we didnt get Bellinger. Him and Giolito would have been playing video games to the wee hours of the morning.
jhomeslice
Well my Keuchel comment didn’t age well. Gave up 7 runs today. I hope he is good enough to be a mediocre 5th starter, that’s not asking a lot… but today wasn’t a good sign.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Even last year, he had some fairly good outings. But there are just far too many clunkers along the way. My only hope is that he’s toying with some mechanical change and it’s not paying dividends yet.
Rallyshirt
He didn’t seem rattled. He’s just out there throwing.
nrd1138
Solid trade for both, questions about but if Kimbrel is like he was before going to the Sox and AJ can stay healthy good trade for both clubs.
TJT88
I guess Kenley’s time is up in LA. As a Met fan I always appreciated him. Solid player.
TJT88
Edit: I had no idea Jansen signed with the Bravos two weeks ago.
Cap & Crunch
My Deeper cuts from the LAD side
They will duck the CBT next year
Pollock saves 10 and I think we could see something like a Bauer for Cano style trade that would save LAD 15 mill next year as well
That Bauer hypothetical after today’s Pollock departure would leave the Dodgers with only 3 PLAYERS under contract {fully} for NEXT year (w ** a Dead 20 on Cano)
Mookie at 25
Freeman -27
Taylor-15
*Bellinger’s final arb year could be dealt or even cut worst case
Team options for 23′
Turner-16 50/50
Muncy-13 100%
Trienan 8- 100%
Then guys like Hudson Alberto Nelson Duffy you can pick or chose
In short they will be able to navigate ducking the CBT rather easily and still get too hold some Good cards of their choosing
– Theres probably a little room too sign some more 1 yr inks on Sps as well after arbs/options are picked up and control the tax line with finesses
They gotta duck it and I think today w Pollock was a look forward moment as much as it was a 2022 moment. Alos think Luxs development was key in todays dealing…He was always gonna net 450+ abs but now he can get it with some familiarity to position and not having to overthink/question/wonder his fate day to day
Northeasternskier
Will love watching Kimbrel walk the bases loaded in the ninth inning of the NLDS.
Go [insert Dodger opponent here] !
iBleeedBlue
Should’ve traded Bellinger. Pollock can hit.
dazedatnoon
Hope Vaughn mishap isn’t worse than it is. Does this open space to lock up Giolito this year and stay under the tax? Shouldn’t matter but it probably does.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I don’t think Giolito is interested in an extension save at full market value for the post-arb years. Sox have no reason to lock themselves into that risk without a reward in the form of a somewhat lower AAV. It’s his right to test free agency if he wants to, but I do think the Sox lose him if/when that happens.
Murphy NFLD
With this trade you would have to think the Jays could have traded Grichuk and a prospect for Kimbrel, I hope they at least tried and the sox went another way
GarryHarris
IMO, I think Grichuk – Kimbrel might have been a better option for ChiSox & Jays too. I doubt it was ever discussed. Otherwise, the Grichuk trade would’ve occurred after this one, not a week before.
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
I’d say there’s about a 95% chance this means they sign Conforto..
GarryHarris
I think this is a Dodgers’ win. The ChiSox could’ve gotten more for a quality CL.
AJ Pollack has only played one full season his entire career. He’ll be 34, the years MLB players historically show decline.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
Aside from a terrific first half of ’21, Kimbrel has been pretty bad for a couple years now. As far as Pollock, he played a full ’20 and then was beset by hammy injuries last year coming off a shortened season. That wasn’t exactly an uncommon occurrence. You’re right that he’s had his injury concerns, but he hasn’t been less healthy than average the last two years and has been at his best offensively.
Regardless, even if Kimbrel comes back strong, he wouldn’t have done that for the Sox because they aren’t offering him the closer role. He sucks at being a setup guy. So the Sox are trading a guy who’d suck for them for a guy who at least has a fair chance to be a significant upgrade. This trade is a win-win.
ChicagowhiteBalls
Tbh not really and every game that goes by is a risk for the White Sox putting Kimbrel out their. His value could of tanked the first month. Kimbrel could also get hurt. He didn’t help the team at all last year. One thing we know is that AJ pollock was an important piece to that Dodger lineup the last 2 years and is coming off one of his best years. Pollock is also going to a very hitter friendly ball park. White Sox got an above average player and Kimbrel you don’t know what to expect after his last few years. Kimbrel hasn’t had a consistent good year for years now. White sox really don’t need him either. Their Bullpen is strong without him. What’s the chances the Whitesox get an MLB ready player that is better then Pollock for Kimbrel without giving up a lot more. This fixes their hole in RF. Vaughn almost got seriously injured last week. He’s not a true OF. Same thing with Sheets. Vaughn or Sheets will eventually take over first base. Plus if Pollock has a great year they can keep him next year. It’s not a long commitment and I’m sure the Whitesox are hoping that Cespedes or Oscar Colas two very good prospects will be ready by then. This just made the White Sox lineup more dangerous. Pollack also has playoff experience and won a World Series. If Pollack stays healthy major Win for the Whitesox.
bigpooky
Well, at least they didn’t have to walk more than 500 feet to get to their new teams.
Cardinal1966
Bottom line, this is a non-risk move for the Dodgers based on established and proven MLB talent.
This used to be…the Cardinals way of doing business (Jeff Suppan, Lee Smith, Lance Bergman etc)
The big difference…the Dodgers want to win the World Series and the “current” Cardinals management simply is competing for the wild card berth.
Metscansuckthis
Good move on the WS end. Pollock addresses a real need they had. Two years at 20 for Pollock is much better than that 1 year at 16 for Kimbrel. Their bullpen is fine without him; actually better based on the results he had there.
brucenewton
Steal for the Sox. Dodgers should have just kept Kenley if this was the fix.
jhomeslice
Yeah, I mean there is a chance Kimbrel bounces back because when the Sox got him, they idiotically used him in the 8th inning exclusively when he has had his problems in that role in his career. He is a closer, the mental thing did seem to mess him up. Since he will close with LA, he has a much better chance of success than as an 8th inning guy with the Sox. But you’re right, Jansen has been better the past 3 years as a whole, and would seem to have been a better fit for LA. But knowing the Dodgers and how things usually work out well for them, Kimbrel will probably be OK if not better than OK.
waltsneck1
Kimbrel wasn’t going to close when they already had the best closer in baseball.
I find it hard to believe that the inning Kimbrel pitches in matters.
He looked like a tired pitcher overthrowing and got himself out of sync. His command was horrible and would have been just as bad in the ninth as the eighth.
Rallyshirt
White Sox fans, this is the year!
iwamtmy2dollars
That late round fantasy pick just gained a bunch of value!
Don’s Ghost
Interesting take that Pollock gone puts a lot of pressure on Belli. Think he’s felt pressured since winning MVP. Pollock wasn’t/isn’t helping or hurting. Besides, that production isn’t on Belli… it’s going to Freeman. Thankfully, there’s also Muncy, Betts, JT, TT, and Will Smith. And to handle miracle heroics: Chris Taylor. Bat Belli low with Lux and they’ll find it.
Fred McGriff
Kimbrel
LAD vs SF 0 0 ERA 72.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.1ip 4h 4er 4r 2hr 0 0 0 1so
I know, ‘it’s only spring training’ and he hadn’t pitched since March 23, 2022…