Mets outfielders Brandon Nimmo and Mark Canha are both out of the lineup and likely headed to the injured list after testing positive for Covid-19, reports Mike Puma of the New York Post (Twitter link). Both players are asymptomatic. Newsday’s Tim Healey first reported this morning that tweets that a member of the Mets’ staff had tested positive and that a few players were deemed close contacts and undergoing testing.
Under the league’s 2022 health-and-safety protocols, players who test positive are subject to a 10-day absence from the club, though it’s possible to be reinstated in less time if the player has gone 24 or more hours without a fever, received a pair of negative PCR tests, and been given approval from a team physician and the MLB/MLBPA joint committee (a panel of one league-appointed and one union-appointed physician). Asymptomatic players are not subject to regular testing under the 2022 protocols, but it’s possible that Canha (who told reporters last year that he is vaccinated) and Nimmo were deemed close contacts of the staff member(s) in question.
With both Nimmo and Canha sidelined for at least the next few days, manager Buck Showalter tells reporters that outfielder Nick Plummer and infielder Matt Reynolds are with the team (Twitter link via Puma). Showalter also added that one member of his coaching staff tested positive (Twitter link via Healey).
Plummer is on the 40-man roster, but Reynolds was not previously on the 40-man. Neither Nimmo nor Canha will count against the 40-man roster while on the Covid-related injured list, however, making it easier to add Reynolds to the roster. The Mets have Jeff McNeil starting in left field, Travis Jankowski in center, Robinson Cano at second base and J.D. Davis at designated hitter today. Dominic Smith’s left-handed bat is somewhat surprisingly absent from the lineup against right-hander Zach Davies, but Showalter tells reporters that’s simply because he wanted to get Davis some at-bats amid a lengthy stretch of predominantly right-handed opponents (Twitter link via Puma).
WtfMate
Were they vaccinated?
Milwaukee-2208
None of your business so who cares
Justplayball@13
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Milwaukee-2208
That’s the very first thing I thought when I read the article title. Who cares. Spot on.
THE downvoter
Hence the slew of upvotes he already got. Always have to have a whiny soap boxer that has to manage other people’s lives instead of minding their own.
Fever Pitch Guy
Staying on the same subject of privacy, I always wondered why is the DOB of baseball players so publicized? The general public doesn’t need to know, and DOB has always been an often-used tool for identity verification. Therefore most identity thefts involve the use of DOB.
I just don’t get it. I sure as heck wouldn’t want my employer spreading my DOB all over the internet.
dadofdonnydownvote
It’s been 2 years. Almost everyone is over this. Time to move on. There is a actual war going on right now for goodness sakes.
hopper15
Glad to hear you’re over it but that’s not how things work.
Deleted Userr
I care
BartoloHRball
Fans should care and teammates *definitely* should care bc anyone who isn’t vaccinated is being selfish and putting the team at risk. Not to mention the baseball implications, as unvaccinated people will likely take longer to be able to achieve two negative PCR tests. Nimmo already has concerns about missing games for injuries, so this is equivalent to his first DL stint….but for COVID.
THE downvoter
Are you done? Any more telling people what to do?
tiredolddude
Sounds like you’re the one on the soapbox. “Telling people what to do???” Go hug your Trumpy Bear and have a nice cry
TradeAcuna
Covid is the reason 2020 was shortened. It affects the product on the field and certain players remain vulnerable to those who decide not to be careful.
You can tell people to mind their own business but this logic does not work when you are impacting the people around you who do care (teammates).
Regardless, the Braves are bad right now. The Mets will lose nothing missing these guys for now.
THE downvoter
Love how people like you automatically assume I am a Trumper. Lets just say #fail. Cant come up with anything but political party BS. Nice. You are what the problem is.
Oh, BTW, I think he is a no-confidence clown.
Get Off My Mound
Lol, a person who spends day and night on a baseball comment board, and who knows what other comment boards on any hundred other websites, getting off telling people they’re the “problem”. Oh the sweet irony.
Poster formerly known as . . .
“Are you done? Any more telling people what to do?”
In a thread about the Devers and Bogaerts negotiations on this website, you told another poster at least four separate times that his posts were too long — and you’re now on here complaining about people telling other people what to do?
UKPhil
Anyone for socially responsible behaviour?
jackhammer838
Ha,
ekrog
Apparently you are not watching the data.
Bry
Just because you’re tired of the pandemic, doesn’t mean it went away. Or did you forget that nearly 1 million Americans died from it?
Not being vaccinated (without a valid medical reason) at this point is just selfish and ignorant.
dlw0906
Stop trying to be logical this isn’t the place for such foolhardiness. Nimmo’s selfishness on display. His “aw shucks” mentality is a carefully constructed image for the media. Growm men afraid of needles…ridiculous. A team player is a team player 100% of the time not only when it suits their image or doesn’t clash with their ideology. The same goes for Canha.
People’s childish behavior around a vaccination is really getting old. Do you really think Seaver would’ve put up with players letting down the team because they essentially think science is voodoo?
But Nimmo will “ah shucks” his way out of it. If he plays 120 games this season it will be a miracle, even 100 would be surprising. If he wants to go unvaxxed in the offseason fine but once the season starts Nimmo and Canha should’ve looked beyond their own fears and apprehensions at the bigger picture: the team.
I hope Scherzer lays into both of them for their selfishness. If I’m the Mets I let Nimmo walk after this season. He showed where his alliegances truly lie and its not with the blue and orange.
To send a message I hope Buck benches both players for a couple games when they come out of protocol.
I mean we’re over 2 years into this thing and the fact players are still testing positive is pathetic.
Get the damn shot. All the other crap they put into their bodies and don’t blink an eye but god forbid they get a simple shot.
Covid should’ve been done 18 mos. ago but knuckleheads like Nimmo continue making it the gift that keeps giving.
carlos15
Fear of Covid was why it was shortened.
carlos15
If you don’t put a hastily manufactured product in your body because i say so then you’re selfish. Never mind that I can go get my own shot. I guess that’s the logic.
Yep it is
They have worked on this type of vaccination since the early 70’s. Like the flu vaccination it depends on what strain it is and is a guessing game at times. Yes there are low percentage reactions but on the whole as with the flu shot or many other vaccines and drugs the good outweigh the bad by a large margin. I am not saying either way just presenting the Data and Facts. Kind of like don’t wear your seat belt or jump out of an airplane without a parachute, yes there are chances you will survive but not even close to what higher percentages of bucking up or having a parachute.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Hastily manufactured product? What an absurd and uninformed comment. And by the way, this ‘clinical trial’ now includes over 1 billion recipients.
The stupidity show by so many of our fellow Merikans is truly revealing.
whyhayzee
It is true that we don’t know the long term implications of the vaccine. And there was a rush put in its development. From that perspective, I can understand some of the hesitation. However, we really need the vaccine to fight this virus. And the amount of ill advised products that we already put in our bodies without any hesitation makes vaccine refusal seem kind of silly at times.
sfes
@whyhayzee Amen. Ask one of these nuts when the last time they had Polio was…
Also, LFGM!
BartoloHRball
Framing the COVID vaccines as “rushed” is not accurate. The framework for the vaccines have been around longer than COVID, but it had to be adapted for COVID. While hesitation about s/e was understandable in the beginning, we now have over 1B administrations, which is a HUGE sample size to study. The results from the vaccines are actually very good, better than many 1st generation vaccines for other things. Also, the way in which the vaccines work impacts what effects to expect. Stated another way, we know that “long-term” s/e are highly unlikely. Adverse effects should present directly following and/or shortly after administration…weeks/months/years later is just statistically not likely based upon how the vaccines work and what “side effects” would present long-term v. short-term.
Nimmo, et al. can use whatever excuses they want, regardless of how not applicable and/or accurate, but the bottom line is they are hurting their team team by not playing and they are putting their teammates, coaches, and staff at higher risk bc of their selfish actions.
mookiesboy
This is America. People have a right to be selfish and ignorant Nimmo will have to accepted the consequences of his actions. It’s only April but could you image a player missing playoff game because of his choice not to Vax?
How could the fans forgive him?
jackhammer838
Best answer ever. Love it! It’s no one’s business.
VonPurpleHayes
Nimmo is not, but that’s territory we don’t need to get into.
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I would have been surprised if he was vaccinated.
carlos15
I know significant more people who are positive for Covid after being vaccinated then who were positive before the vaccines.
Yep it is
Bahahaha that is the DUMBEST THING I have heard this year. GET REAL
sfes
Good idea, hes very conservative. Duscussing that would only make this argument worse. On another note, hes from Wyoming… I wonder how many first rounders actually come from that neck of the woods?
Cosmo2
I think he might’ve actually been the first
metsfan79
is that really your business?
baseballguy_128
Are we sure it’s not the flu
jackhammer838
Pretty sure it is. People are sheeple though.
VonPurpleHayes
The irony. Anyone who uses the wordle sheeple is clearly not a unique individual.
Bry
“Look at the sheeple” he said following the exact verbiage of right wing pundits, Fox News, and r/conservative.
Dorothy_Mantooth
All the vaccination does is potentially make the symptoms less severe. I was fully vaccinated when I caught Covid from another fully vaccinated person, so it really makes no difference to teammates or others if you are vaccinated or not. It could only make the person who contracts it have more severe symptoms if they are not vaccinated. So there is nothing wrong or selfish about not being vaccinated. It’s a personal choice; a potentially risky one, but professional athletes in their 20’s & 30’s are a low risk group to contract severe symptoms. This is not a measles, mumps or polio vaccine that prevents the disease; it merely helps mitigate the symptoms.
VonPurpleHayes
Whenever a medical issue arises in my life, I make sure to log on to a baseball trade rumors site and look for random posts by someone named Dorothy Mantooth. Definitely the best source for reliable medical information.
davidk1979
I thought it was five days? Like everyone?
Steve Adams
The ten-day number I cited is directly from a copy of the 2022 health and safety protocols we obtained prior to the season. That said, as I noted shortly thereafter, it’s not a strict ten days like it was last year. Players can exit isolation and return to the team with multiple negative tests and approval from the joint committee/team medical staff.
davidk1979
Thanks
BartoloHRball
Thank you for clarifying, as that is one of a few “fuzzy spots” in the MLB protocols and procedures related to COVID.
Zerbs63
Why is MLB still testing?
Zachary D Manprin
Because the virus still exists.
Zerbs63
The cold and flu still exist as well. Are players being tested for these?
Poster formerly known as . . .
According to the CDC, 99 Americans died of the flu in the past three weeks. In the same time period, 2,820 died of Covid. So, in that time period, people who contracted Covid were nearly 30 times as likely to die as were people who contracted influenza.
361 Americans died of Covid yesterday.
1,014,902 Americans have died of Covid since it arrived in 2020.
As for the common cold:
“Common colds are usually short lived, lasting a few days, with a few lingering symptoms lasting longer, especially cough. Symptoms peak within 1 to 3 days and generally clear by 1 week, although cough often persists. Although they cause no mortality or serious morbidity, common colds are responsible for considerable discomfort, lost work, and medical costs.” – National Institutes of Health
“they cause no mortality or serious morbidity”
Poster formerly known as . . .
Correction: In that three-week time period, nearly 30 times (28.5 times, specifically) as many people died from Covid as died from influenza.
Oh Boy Here We Go
This week there were 3,902 flu cases
Last week there were 3,942 flu cases
The week before that there were 2,947 flu cases
Roughly 11,000 flu cases on average.
Per the cdc website.
In that same time frame covid
This weeks 7 day covid average is 31,391
Last weeks 7 day average was 31,391
The previous weeks was 25,732
Roughly 90,000 covid cases
Also. What is the age breakdown of the flu and covid deaths? Why arent those included in your breakdown?
Whats the harm in testing for flu and cold? Thought we are trying to prevent spread of viruses for “health” reasons?
Roll
Deborah Birx, MD, coordinator of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said this when asked about people who have COVID-19 but die from preexisting conditions: “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.”
Those numbers are inflated … so you can get shot in the head but if you had covid it was a covid death.
“Unfortunately, many people can test positive for COVID-19 for weeks or even months, but there is good news: people are not likely to be contagious for that long, even if they test positive, and therefore are unlikely to transmit the virus to others. ”
flus go away in a couple of days depending on how bad it is covid could be testing positive for months so of those 90k people how many are the same people being retested. I would be more curious on new cases and not how many positive tests there are. Also how many of us actually go get tested for when we have the flu vs going to the corner store and just get nyquil or whatever your preference otc medicine especially with every website and dr office putting out this is covid vs flu symptoms flyers.
raisinsss
You ‘forgot’ the rest of it:
There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we are still recording it and we will I mean the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection the intent is right now that those if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.
Poster formerly known as . . .
When was the last time you heard of a country closing its borders and ordering a lockdown to prevent the spread of influenza or the common cold?
Influenza and the common cold only attack the respiratory system: the sinuses, throat and lungs. Covid is different:
‘The coronavirus that causes COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, can spread within days from the airways to the heart, brain and almost every organ system in the body, where it may persist for months, a study found.
‘In what they describe as the most comprehensive analysis to date of the virus’s distribution and persistence in the body and brain, scientists at the U.S. National Institutes of Health said they found the pathogen is capable of replicating in human cells well beyond the respiratory tract.
* * * * *
‘The focus on multiple brain areas is especially helpful, said Al-Aly at the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System.
‘”It can help us understand the neurocognitive decline or ‘brain fog’ and other neuropsychiatric manifestations of long COVID,” he said. “We need to start thinking of SARS-CoV-2 as a systemic virus that may clear in some people, but in others may persist for weeks or months and produce long COVID — a multifaceted systemic disorder.”’
fortune.com/2021/12/26/covid-19-organs-brain-fog-l…
Don’t you know that heart inflammation from Covid kept Eduardo Rodriguez off the mound in 2020?
Please stop listening to ignorant people, opportunistic demagogues and crackpots and start reading the scientific literature if you want to really understand this disease.
Asking the age of people that died of Covid is meaningless unless you intend to limit your exposure to persons of a single age group, all of whom are in perfect health. If you’re unvaccinated and carrying a high viral load, you’re a danger to the elderly and to immunocompromised people of all age groups.
I don’t know where you live, but where I live Covid victims were dying so fast that there were refrigerated trailer trucks parked outside the city hospitals to receive the corpses because the morgues and funeral homes were overflowing and couldn’t handle them. A mass grave on Hart Island was receiving 25 bodies a day at the outset of the pandemic.
Did you ever hear of something like that from the seasonal flu or the common cold? No, you never did. As one overworked ER nurse said to a reporter: “This is NOT the flu! This disease is a monster!”
Sheep8
Read the article: “a few players were deemed close contacts and undergoing testing.”
MAGICQ7
It was stated in the article. The players were in close contact to an employee that contracted Covid. So they had to get tested. They no longer test for Covid unless your unvaccinated. Truthfully if your unvaccinated your supposed to be tested regularly. But a lot of organizations ignore it now.
Zerbs63
The CDC currently lists 5 diseases on its US based list of outbreak diseases. Is MLB checking these as well?
BartoloHRball
Did you look into that as part of your “research”? Do tell us what MLB is doing and how it is going because it appears they have largely handled COVID well when considering the # of players, managers, staff, etc in close quarters every day. For once, MLB did something pretty right.
Also in your “research”…..did those outbreak diseases cause 82m+ infections and 1m+ deaths in the USA in the past two years? Science is like gravity, just because you don’t believe it doesn’t invalidate it’s existence and impact. If you jumped off of a cliff bc you didn’t believe in gravity, what would happen?
Steinbrenner2728
Yep, and Science these days is like a cult. You show people and wave around a diploma and a “certification” and you give people no choice but to believe and do whatever you tell them to. If a Scientist with a PhD and a MD and all these certifications told you to drink the cyanide-laced Kool-Aid and you didn’t believe in Jonestown, what would happen?
whyhayzee
Science is merely a collection of ideas from data developed and verified by millions of graduate and beyond level students and researchers at thousands of academic institutions around the world over decades and centuries and millennia and yet people will watch Dr. Odds or some yahoo on YouTube to get their information because how can you trust science when it’s obviously a cult of run on sentence writers commenting on a baseball internet site.
raisinsss
Let’s game this one out… You’re sick AF. Been coming out both ends for days. You roll up to the “DOCTOR, allegedly” Dude has the PhD, MD, BA, etc. All these credentials and “certifications.”
Says, “Steinbrenner2728, I have your cure! Take these pills twice a day with meals and you’ll be just fine!”
Do you:
1) say “F YOU AND YOUR BOUGIE PAPERWORK, DR, if that even is your real title. DO YOU EVEN KNOW JONESTOWN?!!?” and throw the pills out the window
or
2) Nah, there is no other option–you do 1. At least that’s what you’re implying here.
So good luck with that.
BartoloHRball
Steinbrenner2728…..you misunderstand science. Science isn’t political nor is it a cult. It is a collection of ideas that have been developed based on rigorous and repeated study. Scientists point to the data and go “HERE IS THE PROOF”…..unlike the fringe “I did my own research!” people who distort, misrepresent, and mischaracterize even basic concepts to fit their narrative.
My frustration w. players like Nimmo and Canha are that they trust the Ortho surgeon if they shredded their knee and they’d trust an oncologist if they had cancer, but when it comes to some of the brightest minds across the world who came together because of a historic pandemic….they dismiss them. That’s not rational, nor does it have anything to do with actual science, but it has everything to do w. political bias (and some would argue “culting thinking”). I know if I relied upon my body for my livelihood, I’d want to trust the foremost experts and not some rando on YouTube that claims to have information that millions of academics and researchers somehow missed or purposefully buried. It’s magical thinking, not reality. …and no amount of “aww shucks” or “I did my own research” from Nimmo or Canha changes that….they are being selfish and putting others in more dangerous positions.
User 3663041837
Was only a matter of time until Nimmo missed time. Didn’t have covid as the reason though.
BartoloHRball
Unfortunately Nimmo’s biggest challenge will be staying on the field, whether it be for COVID or injuries.
desertbull
Oh…ok
Can we stop this non-sense already?
jaysfan1994
I like how we got the world to stop caring about excess deaths by convincing half the population covid is overblown or at the start of this pandemic, fake.
Thank God no of you work in a hospital and I will leave it at that.
DarkSide830
nothing makes you feel more regret than reading one of these covid comment sections.
TradeAcuna
and people wonder why they turned off chat regarding covid topics.
These people probably just got off complaining/debating in their CNN/FOX forums and come here to lash out as well.
Dotnet22
Stop the political BS.
DarkSide830
this is about the least political comment in this section
GiantsX3
Nobody cares about this BS any longer. Stop reporting to us who has the flu/common cold.
Steve Adams
Nimmo and Canha are both temporarily off the 40-man roster, while Matt Reynolds is temporarily added. Nick Plummer is up from Triple-A as a result of this.
Setting aside the “I don’t care about this, therefore no one cares’ fallacy (which people erroneously use in far more than just Covid cases, of course), there are actual baseball implications to this. Thus, it is on the site and such situations will continue to be on the site.
raisinsss
My man the internet is a big place.
If you don’t care about baseball roster moves and the reasons for them, maybe this ain’t the place for you.
rxbrgr
Dear god, I will go pray for them NOW at mass
Bart Harley Jarvis
*Mass
whyhayzee
Another COVID spike in some areas. So it could hit more teams. But again, it’s not about you having COVID. It’s about giving it to someone who can’t afford to have COVID. Intelligent behavior stops the spread. Don’t get it and don’t give it to anyone else. That’s what stops it.
Whiteguilt
Turning off the msm news stops the spread
raisinsss
Closing your eyes makes the world get dark.
MarlinsFanBase
Intelligence and also being selfless stops the spread.
When I see the persons that walk around with no mask and not social-distancing, I see selfishness. I see people who say that they don’t want anyone disrespecting their rights, but then they want to disrespect our rights of not wanting anyone in our faces or up close to us. I see the people who don’t care that their potential infection may pass onto someone else that can die from it. I wonder how those same individuals would feel if they had to be informed of who the person is that died from the infection they passed onto. It’s selfishness. Keep fighting your battle of not wanting to wear a mask, not wanting to be vaccinated, and not wanting to social-distance. When someone you know dies from Covid or complications from it, remember that it most likely was you that did it.
THE downvoter
Pathetically stupid take.
619bird
If Plummer blows up in his cup o coffee. Cardinal Nation will lose it.
Old York
Why is this any of my business? Let them play again.
Tom Price
So they were diagnosed with the common cold
Sunday Lasagna
Common cold? Not a chance, I had covid, survived it but still have lingering effects despite not having any health issues before covid. My sympptoms were incredibly worse than a common cold. I guess ignorance is bliss.
wifflemeister
Mets bein’ Mets
Bill M
Good point. Only Mets personnel will get Covid
MarlinsFanBase
Even I found the comment stupid. I know the feeling as a Marlins fan from what we endured in 2020.
You Can Put It In The Books
Do you always like your own comments? Pathetic.
48-team MLB
ROCHESTER RABBITS
whyhayzee
And the first place Mets win easily. The hound on the mound gets it done. Lindor with two pokes. Yup.
MarlinsFanBase
And against juggernaut teams like the Nats and D-Backs. It’s like last season all over again.
What is their Magic Number now?
You Can Put It In The Books
It’s April. Relax doofus.
MarlinsFanBase
I come to see baseball comments and see this stuff. Wow!
Hope both players get well and it doesn’t affect anyone around them directly or by extension.
Now to my Nimmo bash. In the 5 to 10 days he’ll be out, that only reduces his swings taken by 3 if 5 days or 7 if 10 days out.
You Can Put It In The Books
You’re a degenerate. Stick to the typical garbage analysis you spew on Miami everyday.
GarryHarris
NYM best two offensive performers so far….
You Can Put It In The Books
Huh? Alonso leads the league in RBI and Lindor just homered from both sides of the plate today. Marte is crushing the ball (thanks for the gift Miami). Nimmo and Canha have been great.
Scherzer got all the headlines, but the entire team is showing just how underrated the signings on offense were. And how badly the team underperformed last year.
MarlinsFanBase
And on April 15th, the relevance is?
Bill M
That Nimmo & Canha are NOT the NYM best 2 offensive performers so far. COMPLETELY relevant to the topic, which is about those 2 going on the IL.
MarlinsFanBase
@Bill M
I agree that the mention of the players is relevant to the topic, but that wasn’t what was emphasized by @GarryHarris above. He worded it like one of @MetFan22’s “missed WAR” excuses.
And obviously I agree that Canha and Nimmo are not the Mets best 2 offensive players. To me, from an opposing fan’s view, I fear McNeil and Marte’s bats. Any idiot can know the threat Alonso brings to the plate every time. Lindor is your big contract guy for a reason and a past history that can’t be ignored until what happened last year becomes his new norm. Canha is a solid, supporting bat and player on offense, but not your best or even top 4 or 5. You all know my opinion of Nimmo’s bat, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that I consider him your team’s 2nd worse offensive starting player ahead of McCann – and that is due to that he is useless when you pound the strikezone to make him swing, and considering that he has nice speed, the fact that he has no running game and makes many baserunning mistakes, he’s one of the dumber base runners in MLB, which makes him nearly useless there with him only being able to score when his teammates get hits that allow him to easily advance two bases or score all the way from 1st because he doesn’t help manufacture runs.
And my main knock on this poster’s message is that we’re only about 10 games in. Other than trying to get a decent start and avoid a disastrous start, nothing really warrants much concern or celebration (like this poster’s comment or the other poster that refers to the Mets as the “first place Mets”).
MarlinsFrontOffice
We at the Miami Marlins do not claim @MarlinsFanBase or his “hot takes” as one of our own.
Bill M
The real question is, do you hit the “like” button on your own posts?