After months of speculation, Luke Voit’s time with the Yankees organization drew to a close Friday. The Yankees and Padres agreed to a trade sending the slugging first baseman to San Diego in exchange for minor league right-hander Justin Lange, according to announcements from both clubs. The Padres moved right-hander Michel Baez to the 60-day injured list in order to open a spot on the 40-man roster Voit.
The writing for Voit has been on the wall at least since New York re-signed Anthony Rizzo — and quite arguably longer than that. The Yanks acquired Rizzo last summer while Voit was on the injured list for the third time that year alone, and since the 2021 season ended they’ve been connected to Rizzo, Freddie Freeman and Matt Olson as they made no secret about pursuing alternative options to the incumbent Voit.
Voit’s trade marks the culmination of a swift shift in the organization’s stance on him. Just one year ago, Voit was heading into Spring Training as the clear everyday first baseman, having just led the Majors with 22 home runs during the truncated 2020 season. However, a knee injury in camp led to meniscus surgery that kept Voit out of action for the season’s first six weeks. Voit returned in early May, but just two weeks later he headed back to the 10-day IL due to an oblique strain. That issue kept Voit out another three-plus weeks, and he lasted only a month before going back on the IL in mid-July due to lingering inflammation in his surgically repaired left knee.
All told, Voit was limited to just 68 games and 211 plate appearances in 2021. When he was on the field, Voit remained somewhat productive, slashing .239/.328/.427 (111 wRC+), but his offensive output was nowhere near its peak levels. Looking beyond leading the Majors in long balls during the brief 2020 season, Voit had raked from the moment the Yankees acquired him from the Cardinals in exchange for relievers Chasen Shreve and Giovanny Gallegos.
Largely blocked from regular playing time in St. Louis, Voit immediately proved to be a hidden gem unearthed by the Yankees. He belted 14 home runs in less than two months down the stretch in 2018, and in 892 trips to the plate as a Yankee from ’18-’20, he batted .279/.372/.543 with 57 home runs, 31 doubles, a triple and an 11.5% walk rate against a 26.3% strikeout rate. Even adding in his “down” year this past season, Voit’s time with the Yankees will draw to a close with a stout .271/.363/.520 batting line in 1133 plate appearances.
That type of production would be a boost to any lineup, and the Padres in particular could use some thump of that nature at first base and/or designated hitter. San Diego first basemen, led by Eric Hosmer, hit a combined .275/.337/.412. That’s not terrible production by any means, but the resulting 106 wRC+ ranked 20th in the Majors. Of more concern was that the Padres, as a team, hit just .241/.324/.380 against left-handed pitching (94 wRC+, 24th in MLB). Voit, a career .264/.344/.516 hitter against left-handed pitching, ought to be particularly helpful with regard to that deficiency — though it’s important to note that he shouldn’t be regarded as a platoon player. To the contrary, Voit actually has slightly better career numbers against right-handed pitching.
Productive as he’s been at the plate throughout his Yankees tenure, Voit is a below-average defender at first base. The Yankees have made improving the defense a clear priority of late, evidenced not only by bringing Rizzo back but also moving Gleyber Torres to second base, acquiring Isiah Kiner-Falefa to take the reins at shortstop and moving Gary Sanchez to the Twins in favor of what currently projects to be a glove-first pairing of Kyle Higashioka and Ben Rortvedt (acquired in that deal with the Twins).
Voit now heads to the Padres not only for the 2022 season but perhaps all the way through 2024. He’s still arbitration eligible, projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn $5.4MM in 2022 before earning a pair of raises on top of that sum. It’s an eminently reasonable price to pay for a hitter of Voit’s caliber, particularly if he can boost his production away from his 2021 output and closer to its 2018-20 levels.
As for the Yankees’ return, they’ll acquire a 20-year-old righty who can reach triple digits with his fastball but has drawn questions from scouts about his command. The 6’4″, 220-pound Lange was the No. 34 overall pick in the 2020 draft and made his pro debut with the Padres’ Rookie-ball club in 2021. There, he pitched 22 innings with a 6.95 ERA, a 28.4% strikeout rate and a bloated 14.7% walk rate. When ranking Lange 13th among San Diego farmhands, The Athletic’s Keith Law wrote that the righty has “huge stuff and a workhorse build” but questionable command in addition to a recent knee issue.
Lange adds a power arm to the lower levels of the Yankees’ system, albeit a high-risk one who’ll be a bit of a project for their development staff. Trading Voit drops the Yankees’ projected 2022 payroll a bit south of $240MM, although in terms of luxury-tax obligations, they’re still a bit over $253MM, which places them squarely in the new new CBA’s second tier of penalization.
Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic first reported the Padres’ interest in Voit. MLB Network’s Jon Heyman first reported that Voit had been traded to the Padres (Twitter link). Joel Sherman of the New York Post reported the return (Twitter link).
Solid pickup
Really? The Yanks need a starting pitcher, a catcher, and a 4th outfielder and a pitcher that might help them someday is a solid pickup?
I think he was referring to what the Padres got in Luke Voit…
OK. Yeah he is a solid pickup for the Padres. Hoping Cashman is going to use Hope (AKA as Justin) Lange to get us something that will help us a little sooner.
Ugh, Yankees fans always think everything is about them. News flash! Not everyone is a Yankees fan. Most of us hate them.
Looks like someone needs a psychologist….
From Yankee fans everywhere…..Back at you pal!
We own you Minnesota get over it.
Bro it’s literally a trade the Yankees made. If a Yankee fan comments on it’s “Yankees fans think it’s all about them”… Lol come on
There are really only two types of people in this world. Yankee fans and thoughts who wish they were.
@minnesota2887- if you hate the Yankees so much then why are you here trolling? Good luck, with Gary Sanchez and his gold glove defense this season.
Always a joy to “communicate” with someone who hates. It’s true as a fan, I generally think of my team first. It’s part of being a fan. Minnesota is a beautiful state and when the Twins aren’t playing the Yankees I wish them luck!
The Padres also made a trade. So nice pickup could be meant for either team.
And there’s also Mets fans….
Spot on MN2887. The fact that so many Yankees fans misunderstand your comment simply reinforces the point you have made. They have unwittingly becomes parodies.
Lol – it’s Minnesota2887 – look at his name – losing so many playoffs to Yankees is his Thorn in foot! But maybe they can do more w 2 ex Yankees in ‘22…
Yup.
@L99 was correct. Some far off arm who’s name we may never hear again. Damn. Starting to look & sound more & more like this is it for our offseason.
Screw this stuff, man. There are snow geese that need to be attended to a little over 100 miles from me. Waiting around for Cashman to do what I want has suddenly become decidedly unfun.
Fent out.
Return, Ducky! I guess it’s expectations. I had low expectations based on how MLB values players like Voit. I’ll take a 20-year-old first-rounder.
@Ducky and @Lord,
I wasn’t expecting much for Voit either. It would have been nice to bring back a piece to help them this year. But I wouldn’t call this the end of their offseason.
Hah.
Truck is warming up & Dog is following me around wagging his tail damn near off. & the snows are destroying a delicate ecosystem with their feces (google it.) So I do this is a gift of love to you & my fellow man, L99.
& I am so irritated with Cash/Hal right now I fear taking it out on you guys. I felt Voit was a useful chip who could have been used to make 2022’s squad better. But – hey – Cash got his precious value.
Good hunting, fellas.
Thats an overpay for voit. 34th overall pick. Pitcher? Preller is terrible. Voit’s a dh who’s only skill is hrs. And the fact that he is a major leaguer. Sure the yanks may never see this kid in the majors but he is more valuable than voit even in rookie ball
Hah! Funny Ducky. Truck idling while you’re getting ready to defend ecosystems. You should leave out the truck part next time….
Good luck out there!
Seriously, a guy that was and is blocked b/c he’s not as good as Rizzo and is a 1B that could be a platoon you expect more than a high upside, recent 2nd round pick?
@Astros
So a potential 30hr SH in the NL has less value than an unproven pitcher who struggled in rookie ball? Read that again and tell me you honestly feel that way.
I saw this and thought I would share. This is the scouting report on Lange
Scouting grades: Fastball: 65 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 45 | Overall: 50
Lange put his name on the map with a big-time fastball that erupted in the early spring preceding the 2020 Draft. He routinely hit the upper 90s and touched 100 mph, vaulting into the supplemental first round, where he signed with the Padres for $2 million as the 34th overall selection.
Lange’s fastball sits in the mid-90s and can feature both run and sink. He has the makings of a second power pitch in a slider that could become a plus mid-80s weapon with bite. The pitch is inconsistent, however, and should be a focal point of Lange’s as he begins to face pro hitters. He will also incorporate a changeup, which he rarely threw against high-school opposition.
A quick-twitch athlete, Lange added 25 pounds of muscle in the offseason prior to the Draft and had one of the best bodies in the 2020 high school pitching class. He has a huge ceiling but will need time to reach it, given his unrefined secondary pitches and shaky control and command. His slightly unorthodox low-arm-slot delivery also raises a few question marks.
I dont believe he struggled badly. The kid struck out 29 in 22 innings. Thats an elite k rate. His problem was like that of every other young pitcher. He walked 15. Yes im telling you with a straight face i believe lange has more value as a prospect than luke voit as a major leaguer. Luke voits career high in hrs is 22. Yes that was the shortened covid year but youre acting like he hits 40 bombs a year. Voit has 4.8 career baseball reference war. Hes almost replacement level. Even if lange never makes the show he has more value right now than voit. Teams never trade 1st rd pick pitchers for platoon dh’s.
Im not a big brian cashman guy but this is how you build a farm system. Trading useful major leaguers for possible stars who are far from the show. Teams imo are too desperate to be good today and dont think enough about the future. Good trade by the yankees. They have no need for voit
Wow, high velo, shaky command screams Yankees farm system… that’s their identity right now.
We still need three things: Catcher; at least 1 SP; & imho, a SS or CF. We must fill our weaknesses. If we are going to continue being cheap, at least go after that Naquin kid, who should be cheap and available in the Reds fire sale, and build on our offense with speed. Add that dynamic back into our offense with a top-of-the-order bat.
I’d definitely like to see a SP and C. I’m not over worried about SS and CF.
Are you watching the game right now? It looks like someone recording the game on an iPhone. Maybe Pittsburgh really doesn’t have any money.
Joe says: Lange was also a position player until his velocity spiked up. He was a high schooler who lost most of his senior year (Coronavirus).
Ducky….Not sure about your comment about Voit “being a useful chip who could have made the 2022 squad better”?
Do you take at bats away from Rizzo?
Do you put up with his under average defense at 1st?
When you have to DH Stanton, he sits on the bench because Rizzo isn’t coming out in late innings.
Remember his swing….used to be opposite field until he fell in love with the HR in 2020 and became pull happy….
And what about his attitude which would have festered by him sitting on the bench….what does that do for team chemistry?
Agree, the return is less than spectacular but everyone knew that the Yankees were moving on from Voit, and he probably wanted out as well.
Thanks for the memories Voit, but the 2022 squad is better off without you….in my opinion!
@rocky7- I wasn’t in love with the trade at lst, until I read about Justin Lange and his upper 90’s fastball and wipeout slider. Lange isn’t going to help up this year, but with an arm like that he could definitely help us in the next couple of years. I really wanted the catcher Luis Campusano back. Surprised the Yankees didn’t throw Deivi in the trade with Voit for him.
@captain judge You might mean Luis Torrens mate, need to make a trade with Seattle for him.
Betances was good for a spell, I’d imagine the Yanks would be elated if they could get a similar return out of a similarly bodied pitcher, albeit a bit shorter.
I was with you on this L99, meaning I figured Cashman would target an upside pitcher in the minors. Pads fans should be happy they got a solid bat. Yankee fans should be happy they got a pitcher who was a first-rounder a year ago.
I get the frustration too, @Fent, but I think the Yankees did well from an organization perspective. Like L99, I was predicting a minor league arm would be the return.
That’s facing low A players who hadn’t seen live pitching since 2019
Well, ~ 12 hours later & I am in a much better place spiritually, Rob. Hey. Different cathedrals for different communions for different fellas.
& you are 100% correct.
Cash held an auction & did well. That’s a helluva return for a RH DH. No argument from me. I just thought Voit would make a decent secondary piece.
I am sure you are sick of me posting this. But: we really need another bat or two. Perhaps we have it on the roster. Maybe Higashioka takes another step as a powerhitter & rips 20+ jacks out of the 8th spot. Maybe Florial can make enough contact to fulfill his 20 HR/20 SB potential. Or (my favorite) maybe Andujar hits his way into a 26th man/offensive specialist role.
Could happen, uh?
But as I look at the lineups in the AL East, ours just doesn’t stack up, man. Not right now. Not without addition(s) or some hopeful breakthroughs. Which bugs me. Twins fans – for example – pin their yearly hopes on “breakthroughs.” Yankee fans? Not so much.
Hey, thanks for hanging out while I cut these birds up….
So…I’m a complicated dude @vtbaseball?
But, yeah. Ya got me. Saving the tundra is great! However, it’s more about Dog, boats, & shotguns for me. Turns out, I am not as selfless as I claimed.
Trade chip. Thought he was a decent secondary piece. For – ya know – a player that could help this season, Rocky.
Yeah, Ducky, either a secondary piece in a bigger trade to help the Yankees, or maybe just keep him to wait for the inevitable Stanton injury, opening up DH, or a Judge injury, pushing Stanton to the OF. There is going to be some point this season when we think: really wish we still had Voit!
But, in a future time, we may also think: Wow, I’m really glad we have Lange!
On a semi-related note: Twins shuffle Kiner-Falefa off to us, while they scoop the best SS in baseball.
@Mickey, I understand on the needs, but Voit will only get you so much in today’s game. He won’t land a starting pitcher, or at least one you want! Certainly not a catcher. I expected a minor league arm with upside all along, but I didn’t think they’d land a recent first-round pick. It’s a good return for Voit, IMO.
With disappointment I must admit you are right. I didn’t mean to indicate they could get a SP for him alone. Hopefully they will use Lange with other chips to get something a little more immediately useful.
@Mickey777
Yankees weren’t getting any of that for Luke Voit. Though they may have been able to get Austin Nola if they threw in another player but that wasn’t the case.
I’m not feeling this… AT ALL. Ahahaha!
Because you don’t normally trade MLB players for other MLB players. You trade for prospects
Not really. Voit can’t stay healthy and when he was on the field last year he was basically Hosmer. At 31 years old his injury issues will not get better and his performance will decline.
This is a typical Preller move.
Exactly. And Preller gets more of what they don’t need: a signature move.
Called this one before the lockout.. He is a perfect fit for the Padres and no way Cashman would keep him after replacing him last year.. Trading Sanchez is going to bite him in the butt though. Sanchez has always been a paycheck first player and he will have an MVP caliber season in his walk year. He has said several times that he doesn’t enjoy the game. You can tell by his first call up that he enjoys the money though. Cashman should finally have made enough mistakes to get fired after this offseason. Only mistake I made was in their pickup for SS. I thought it would be a bat first option like Brad Miller or Freddy Galvis.
Yankees sell off begins
Full rebuild, man. Andujar is next. All the stars are going.
lol
With Frazier and Sanchez gone, only Torres and Andujar remain from Core Bore. Time to usher in the next legacy generation.
Judge? Sevvy?
Judge is only going to get to play half the season.
Don’t underestimate the political power of Yankees president Randy Levine. I expect the mandate gone by opening day. Not much can be done about Canada though.
Not likely. Judge is the next Irving. Big man with little huevos will be sitting at home for more than half the games in 2022.
The Nets don’t have the pull of the Yankees. Also, de Blasio is gone.
Also, it’s incredibly stupid seeing as Baseball is an OUTDOOR sport
@Rsox: they play the game outside, yes.
The clubhouse is inside, the trainers rooms are inside, the workout areas are inside, the weight rooms are inside, the lounge, the batting cages, the team meeting rooms, the offices, all inside. Then during the game they all sit shoulder-to-shoulder in the dugout.
I have no sympathy for these guys who will experiment with whatever they can (legally and sometimes illegally) to enhance their performance, with or without any real data and often absent any real science. Yet they won’t contribute to society by getting a free shot that will make them less likely to transmit a disease should they be asymptomatic.
He can wear a mask. That’s been good enough for “following the science” for the last two years
Less than half, misses 9 games in Toronto and 2 at Citi field too
deBlasio didn’t make the rule.
Locker rooms are indoors last time I checked.
81 in the Bronx, 9 in Toronto. 2 at Citi Field. 92 total. That is more than half.
It’s amazing how much baseball players get paid, given they only work 162 days and 3 hours a day, at most. And pitchers work even less!
I wanna get Cashman in a cowboy hat like in a used car dealer commercials in the south and be like, “WE’RE SLASHING PRICES EVERYTHING MUST GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!”
What makes you think this is a “selloff?” He’s getting rid of pieces the team no longer needs. I’m not sure you are aware but Sanchez hasn’t done much of anything in three years while Urshela and Voit have been hurt a bit of late.
Rather than a selloff, I get the impression Cashman is coming to realize marginal players who were undervalued by other teams (Voit, Urshela, etc.) are undervalued for a reason. The team extracted about as much as you can get for them.
It’s quite clearly sarcasm dingus
Have a little fun
Dingus! Hilarious
NY Tankees??
Nice.
Okay………. For free? Waiting patiently for the return….. WHERE IS IT!!!?
I’m predicting a minor league arm.
Curious… but makes sense too. I could see so many scenarios right now.
Dang! You nailed it, man! Great call.
@Clipper, Cashman has certain tendencies. He’ll go for the upside of an arm who might help a couple years down the line. Lang is 20 and was a former first-round pick. They have a good track record on these. Luis Gil was acquired for Jake Cave, for example.
Did you post this before the return was announced?
@Hello, yes, but I’ve also posted this prior as the type of player they’d target for Voit.
Good call Big Dog. The piece you got has huge upside an can be a stud coming from a Pads fan.
Also, we need a new clean-up hitter for today’s game!
I’m betting Ronald Guzman
Justin Lange. Feel like Yankees gave away Voit if thats just what they got.
Ofcourse Cashman sucks – a weary Yankees fan
When you have no use for a guy that’s what you have to do.
“no use???” what about the 92 games Rizzo has to watch from home? he’s not allowed in Canada or at any ballpark in NYC.
@Oh Boy Here We Go
Everyone in baseball knew Voit was on the trading block since last season.
Can’t you acknowledge that Cashman took the best offer and clearly every GM in baseball values Voit less than you? What does that tell you?
Justin Lange. He’s 20 years old
I love fans ridiculing a trade of a 20 yr old….. that they’ve never seen.
Weird comment.
How many prospects have you seen?
exactly. dont you think we as fans should trust the opinion of experts who took this kid in the first round? hes 20 years old and is projected to be a big league started, voit wasnt getting you a big league piece on his own. any other team’s fanbase would not be complaining after a trade like this, and yankees fans should be happy about this
Don’t you have YouTube?
For who?
Wil Myers and Luis Campusano
20 year old Justin Lange.
Risky swap for the Yankees considering Tatis is on the mend until June.
They need SP’s and relief arms more.
I think SD fans are going to love Luke. When healthy that is.
His health issues frustrated me so much. Every other month he strained a muscle it seemed
Yeah, they will & I think he will really like SD too. It will be less pressure on him when injuries come, but the fans will love the passion with which he plays & the absolute bombs he hits when he’s healthy. They wanted offense – they got it.
yeah, I understand why we had to get rid of him but he was one of my favorites. I’ll have to make sure to watch some SD games this year.
Imma miss him bench pressing with one arm lol. Always loved those gym clips of his. Imma support him (unless he faces the Yankees of course lol)
Very cool. NL West should be a lot of fun to watch this year.
Still, riding around in Luke Voits car.
Still, riding around in Luke Voit’s car.
It took a day longer but it was expected. Goodbye voit, you were a solid contributor but we needed a upgrade at first base who also makes more contact which Rizzo does. His left handed power was needed too. Massive upgrade defensively too
Rizzos offensive numbers are worse than Voits. Particularly against RHP. Adding a lefty hitter is useless if the lefty hitter is, well, useless. Which Rizzo is at this stage of his career.
We lose a little power but imo he’s far from useles. He makes more contact plus we get much better defense at first so the sacrifice in power to me is worth it
Rizzo can hit fly balls to RF that are HR’s in Yankees Stadium.
Yankees paid Rizzo 3 time more than they are paying Voit.
SOooooooooooo YANKEES!!!!
Watching Cash and Hal assemble a team is like watching Walter and The Dude solve a kidnapping.
In this case they found the right trading partner – SD is Yankees-lite.
Rizzo is there because of defense and batting lefty. if Rizzo hit righty or played poor defense they’d have given Freeman the 6 years
worthwhile get. dude mashes when healthy.
Where’s he going to play?
Petco
San Diego mostly. Few trips to LA, Denver, San Francisco, Phoenix.
California
DH.
Unless Preller manages to ship Hosmer out, which I think this signals he might, I’d imagine he rotates Hosmer and about through the 1B/DH positions and rest days according to who the opposing pitcher is.
Will Meyers and Capusuano
lol at the Rox above .500 and SD below them
Pretty funny with Bud black as their manager. Clueless Bud.
How many playoff appearances have the Padres had since they fired Black? How many have the Rockies had? Enough said.
Pads made playoffs in 2020
Rockies made it in 2017 and 2018.
so one is tranding up, the other down?
He’s gonna crush in SD.
Rumors have it the Padres are trying to save money so they acquired Voit knowing his X-small jerseys are cost-efficient
google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s…
Yankees getting a low A-Ball pitcher.
The pitcher is Justin Lange. 2020 CBA pick. 0-3, 6.95 ERA in 22 rookie ball innings. 11.9 K/9, 6.1 BB9. Accepted by BTV. baseballtradevalues.com/trades/trade-77115/
If the pads don’t have his stone hands at first base they will be pleased. Just have to hope the big guy doesn’t strain a muscle for once
It seems we are getting a small return but voit was a surplus and didn’t have huge trade in value so it’s expected. I assume SD pays the salary ?
So much for DHing Hosmer….
If Justin Lange is just the return I feel like the Yankees just gave away Luke Voit.
So Padres fans any solid info on this Lange kid ?
He was drafted during that weird covid year. So don’t know how much info there was on him compared to other years.
Nobody really had any info on him as he didn’t pitch much anyways but expectations were he had more to give. Huge fastball. Think it touched high 90s 100 according to pre draft reports.
prospectslive.com/scoutingreports/justin-lange
#13 prospect. Supposedly has really good stuff. Probably more of a bullpen arm than a starter, got this off the internet.
Hi upside if he can control. Better value than conveyed in article.
He has been sitting 98 mph in camp. He is working on a slider and if it develops, he is going to be a monster. If not, he will end up being a late inning reliever.
If he ever gets to the majors at all
2 years of the 5 year window clock are gone already and he has 22 innings to show for it… will probably be next Chase Whitlock because the Yankees won’t have room to add him to 40
1 year is gone. There was no minor leagues in 2020.
But if a lottery ticket but real potential to be a quality pitcher if he can harness it. I think it’s a boom or bust kind of get for the Yankees.
They spent the whole off season complaining about him and trying to find a replacement. Of course they killed his trade value.
Yeah, you said so, Stymee. What could it have been? Who knows, but you’re right and everyone knew Yanks needed to offload him.
Another top draft pick Preller trades fairly quickly from his selection. Very sustainable model in San Diego!
For Luke Voit
No short right field porch in NL west, Hosner is a better offense and defense player as DH will strikeout a lot.
High draft pick doesn’t always equate to solid mlb regular.
TINSTAAPP
Especially in the Padres development system…..
@amk.Amazing how the Pads utilize their prospects to build a team….oh wait, that’s what the Dodgers used to say before they just started buying FAs.
Volt for not much. Yankees couldn’t do better?
Apparently not or else a different deal would have been struck.
@ terry g;
Hey, it’s more than they got for Frazier.
LOL
NO ONE comes close to overrating their players value like Yankee fans do.
Kind of feel like SD turned Cashman over on their knee on this one. Good job, SD – you’ll enjoy watching this guy hit.
Actually, quick research says this kid is pretty legit… high-end future profile. Nice.
Keep an eye on Lange, big upside
117. That is the avergae OPS+ of Hunter Renfroe, Luis Urias & Franmil Reyes last year.
Yet here the Padres are, trading for Luke Voit.
Just a thought. #RockstarGM
Preller is too quick to pull the plug on players
He’s basically gutted a top 5 farm system via trade on two different occasions now. Had the second highest payroll in all of MLB last year, yet people still believe the hype.
The Chicago White Sox traded him Tatis in 2016 and yet still 5 years later they made the playoffs and the Padres didn’t. That’s how broken the Padres are.
He GMs like it’s fantasy baseball and keeps making illogical trades that dig the Padres into deeper holes. Let’s resign Profar. Now let’s sign the KBO star despite not having a position for him. Now let’s trade for a 2B and put him in the outfield. Now let’s trade that 2B for a lesser return.
@gg the Padres made the playoffs in 2020
He seems to get it so close, then gets an itchy trigger finger, and instead of just making small tweaks, maybe signing a middling free agent to bolster the core or a quality bullpen arm, he decides he has to do some mega blockbuster deal for his ego, which usually ends up blowing up in his face. If the Padres had Preller in their accounting department with a different GM I think they’d have gone to a WS already, or at least deep into the playoffs.
*scouting department not accounting. We’ve seen from the Hosmer signing he shouldn’t be allowed near the accounts! Lol
Renfroe got us Cronenworth, Urias got us Grisham, so I’d probably do those again. But I was then and am still mad about losing the Franimal. A better overall hitter than the absolute mashing and strikeouts would suggest, plus he’s still only 26 and the NL DH was always coming…
Urias and Grisham are basically interchangeable at this point. Are we going to pretend that Eric Lauer didn’t start 20 games for a playoff team last year with a 3.19 ERA and a 134 ERA+
Didn’t he trade Franmil for Taylor Trammell? How did that workout?
Then for good measure he went back to Cleveland the next year and gave them Cal Quantrill. All he did was start 22 games with a 2.89 ERA and a 154 ERA+ last year.
Seriously, Preller is the biggest fraud in MLB. The guy has zero results.
Taylor Trammel is a 4th OFer. His star has dimmed considerably. Lauer had a fantastic year but outperformed his perirpherals by quite a bit (3.90 xERA, 4.04 FIP, 4.26 xFIP) and Ashby is being stretched out now to take that role from him this year. Still a useful backend starter, no doubt. Grisham is SOOOO much better than Urias it’s laughable. Urias is among the worst defenders in the sport – he simply has no place to play. He’ll be a below average DH. Grisham has better projections than Urias across the board, and if you ask 30 GM’s who they’d prefer today, 30 GM’s will say Grisham.
If the Padres make the playoffs by a game or two it will likely be because of Voit this year. If they make the playoffs by 5 games, this was unnecessary. But they missed last year, the Dodgers just signed Freeman and the Giants have been making savvy under the radar Giant’s moves. Nothing worse than going all in and missing the playoffs by a game or two. A good GM makes this swap for Voit 10 out of 10 times. I don’t see the issue, and Preller’s history isn’t nearly as bad as you’re suggesting.
In the Grisham trade they also acquired Zack Davies who helped the Pads into playoffs in 2020. They flipped Davies for Yu Darvish. LMAO at any fools that diss on Preller for these deals.
…and he’s a cheerful, singing slugger!
4.04 FIP and 1.1 WAR means Lauer was the #4 starter the Padres needed all season.
Urias 111 OPS+ in 150 games played. 3.1 WAR. He had a 6 DRS at 3B, his main position this coming season. That is substantially above league average.
Grisham 106 OPS+ in 132 games played. 3.3 WAR. Not better than Urias.
Taylor Trammel is a 4th OF … in Seattle.
Voit had a 106 OPS+ last season, he is 31, injury prone, and in decline. As a DH that will not add enough value to add even one win.
Preller’s history is worse than he is suggesting. He has traded away 27 more WAR than he has received in return
I always thought they gave up too quickly on Urias. Renfroe reminds me of Jeff Gyorko – looked flashy at times but never really was consistent enough to be a solid contributor and too many strikeouts.
Voit. How do you hit 22 homeruns and 5 doubles. Seems he would somehow just by accident hit more than 5.
Only 60 games were played is how. The numbers wudda evened out in a full season more than likely. I’m assuming that’s when you’re talking about because he led the league with 22 jacks in 2020.
While I love me some Luke Voit, he does have a tendency to pimp doubles into long singles with his Sammy Sosa hop.
That’s what happens when Stanton and Sanchez are on base when you’re up… HR or station to station
If the Padres had simply done nothing, no trades, they’d be in position to win another NL West title at this point
Another? Have they won the NL West in the last 15 years?
They pretty much have done nothing.
Only if SP stays healthy and performs to expectations. Gigantic if
So now San Diego basically has to get rid of Hosmer now, right??
I’d view this as an admission that they cannot move the contract, the plan is a platoon at 1B and probably Dh’ing Voit some
Wow, as a Padre fan I had high hopes for Lange down the road. The knock on him was his pitchability and that he was “going to have to figure some things out” if he was going to reach his potential. They are in “win now” mode and keep seeing teams around them get better, so Preller & Co. had to d something and with them being so tight to the CBT limit, Voit was a cheapish pickup with upside.
I don’t understand, don’t they have a few guys that are limited to first already
They have at least one who they still owe $59 million to. But these are small details in the world of Preller
They have 1 guy limited to 1st, (Hosmer), but also have the DH spot in the lineup to fill every day.
Langes DOB just jumps right out at you.
Yikes!
Holy crap
Especially in NY. That’ll be an emotional time if he makes the bigs in that stadium.
No doubt, our city is strong
Oof, and he’s going to NY.
Yanks have to be feeling good about this one. Get a first round prospect for a 31 year old backup 1B
Seems like a light return for Voit, but Lange is still young and can hopefully bounce back.
Not what I was expecting.
But there’s upside for sure.
I love how the Padres just go for it.
It’s good for baseball.
Its only good for baseball if they win.
Picking up cheap pieces to include in a trade with Oakland
If Oakland wanted Voit I’m sure they could have scrounged up an A ball pitcher to send to New York themselves
I’m pretty sure it’s for the manea/Montas trade OP meant
“Padres are aggressively working to trade Hosmer with the Rangers, Phillies and Cubs the most interested.”
Voit makes sense now. I was wondering where he would play.
If the pads somehow flip hosmer that would be a massive win for them
Voit has bricks for hands -22 Drs. LOL DH yes 1B no.
Depends who they attach. They may be better off eating Hosmer’s contract than losing a potential star.
where are you seeing this?
The brick hands? They’re at the end of his arms..
it’s a reply to OP about shopping Hosmer.
Wow, total win if SD moves Hosmer
Voit will be the DH either way. Cronenworth likely plays 1B if Hosmer is traded.
Null and Voit.
The Padres will also acquire additional training/medical personnel for Luke.
Lange was the first round pick last year. And he’s only 20. Seems like a good get for New York for someone who was unhappy.
See, this is the right return for Voit. Yankees fans were posting some ridiculous trade ideas yesterday: Voit for Lamet, Voit for Paddock, etc. The Yankees wisely traded Voit for a lottery ticket; that’s all he is worth. Hopefully, Voit can stay healthy and return to mashing but he won’t be winning any gold gloves out in SD. I’m happy for him that he will have a chance to start again out on the west coast.
Baffling return if Lange is it. Voit + could have fetched an available SP. Weren’t Oakland a better trading partner?
He didn’t have much value
Voit too expensive for Oakland. Lange types are what they’re looking for.
Oakland has no desire for a 31-year-old. They only want prospects. They want no additional salary.
Not entirely true. Eric Thames probably makes the team as a 1B/DH though his salary will be low enough for Fisher to handle, and on off days between games Thames can fold Khakis at The Gap…
Please stop…Voit was never going to Oakland. Neither is Torres.
Another trade following but this kid Lang was Pads top 10 prospect #8th and has big upside if he develops! Plus Yanks had no room for Luke with Stanton clogging DH and they removed 5.5m so maybe another trade for starter coming soon?
This kid was born on 9/11/01,and he’s coming to the Big Apple.What a coincidence.
What a terrible return. Thought they would’ve targeted an SP that could help this year
For those that are shocked at the return, have you considered that maybe Luke Voit just isn’t that good?
That’s all they got? I don’t know much about this kid but seems like a really weak return.
Could end up being one of those trades that makes sense in a few years.
His roster spot was worth more than he was. Imminent domain.
Good for Luke. As I commented in the other Voit thread two hours ago, this is perfect for him: a shot at a full-time DH gig where his defensive limitations and injury proneness won’t be such concerns.
Don’t focus on the return. That 20-year-old pitcher is a lottery ticket who could be flipped in another trade. This frees up salary for other moves.
That’s the only way I can rationalize this trade.
@Fink, The A’s have at least 4 players that are on the Yankees’s radar (Laureano, Murphy, Manea, Montas). Perhaps Billy Beane likes Lange and Cashman plans to use as a chip in a deal for one of the Big 4 mentioned before. If not he’s your lottery ticket.
@Mickey777 A’s are going to want higher-ceiling prospects that are almost ML-ready. Deivi Garcia fits that mold but he was an enigma last season and his value is down. I don’t see a deal happening with the A’s without Volpe.
Vomit got traded for a bag of balls. Look for his roster spot to be filled with another transaction in a day or two.
So they found someone to take Hosmer?
No they found a DH
That’ll work. Can live with Myers in right and Hosmer at first most days, need to find a left fielder and good health with the starters.
You are correct… but at this stage, I’m afraid AJ thinks Mazara is “the guy” for LF. Yikes
Just from a roster building standpoint there’s no way they can be done with the OF. They have 2 real OF on the 40 man roster plus Profar with Mazara as NRI. That’s basically zero depth. What happens if someone gets hurt, catchers playing LF?
I think they’re going to either sign Soler or trade for Meadows. They almost have to get another OF before the season starts just to field a proper team.
In total agreeance, Nichols. I hope and pray we still address the COF hole (preferably with Soler); plugging Mazara, Profar, Nola and/or Alfaro out there isn’t the answer to any positive question.
Don’t rule out a trade for OF, or two. A catcher will be involved.
Preller things MLB is just like fantasy baseball and you can plug in a player anywhere. Look what he did with Myers.
Mazara “struck out” against the pitching machine yesterday. Guess he IS a former Ranger.
huh? Mazara hit a bomb HR yesterday in a real SP game. focus on the positive now and then with your team?
Mazara is only 26 and Bob Melvin loves platoons so limiting Nomar to only facing Righties might help turn his career around
They signed Mazara to a $ small minor league gig for insurance and org OF depth and to work with him, won’t be on opening day roster. Why make more of it?
ONLY 26? That is old in baseball terms today.
Padres don’t have a LF as of today. We have seen what Preller does with ex-Rangers before.
today is today, not early April. Be patient with your team, They will add one or two OFs within a week. Trade or sign mid-FA (Soler?).
Well, other that saving some bucks and a roster spot….this helps the Yankees…..how? Maybe that’s enough.
What was Voit’s role going to be after the Rizzo signing? You got Rizzo at 1B and Stanton at DH.
Understood, although depth for a team like the Yankees (Injury City) doesn’t hurt. But more as part of another trade to fill a need. This just clears roster space and money.
I like it for the Padres, they needed a LH DH type bat and insurance if Hosmer can somehow get dealt.
Voit is righthanded
The pitcher from SD should turn into a homerun hitter and they can call him Clubber Lange.
Salary dump. Yanks are better off with Rizzo at 1st base.
Voit is a great fit for the hole
Upside lotto pick. Thought they’d get less. Win-win.
Way to assess what Voit’s value would be to San Diego, Yankees fans
Pure salary dump as I stated before Cashman is just plain horrible had he done a deal prior to the lockout or signing Rizzo he probably could have gotten a better deal out there but once he signed Rizzo everyone knew that he just lowered even more the price of Luke for a young kid that has no effects on a window that is closing on the Yankees championship pursuit or just closed.
Now he will sign Brett Gardner and say that his Roster is now complete…..
Cashman got a first round pitcher who can throw 100 for Voit, great move! This is why the Yanks finally have some great arms in the minors. Now he trades for Miinaea.
He went into his usual “potential uptapped” great if you are looking to rebuild but not when you have holes still that has been filled and over the tax implications.
Love to have these holes, fangraphs has the Yanks starting pitching just behind the Mets. Cole, Sevy, Monte, Taillion, Germain, Gill, King, Cortes, Schmidt, and Medina. How can metrics sites be so wrong?
I know. The Mets are like a thousand times better. 😉
All those with the exception of Cole are question marks with d.l. always. Metrics is just what it is a numerical prediction a guess still doesnt take into account the history of the player and year in and year out players do underperform or some stay steady.
The way this team is currently constructed yes it has a lot of holes they are currently either tied for 3rd or 4th behind Rays & Toronto . Yankees have a position of Catcher that needs to be resolved, 1st baseman that is not vaccinated and Eric Adams is hellbent on not bending over just because its the Yankees or the Mets, you have judge not vaccinated and possibly Stanton so if they keep everything in place that is 90 games to be missed between NY & Toronto.
They have a third baseman that has a history of leg issues, a CF that if he sneezes goes on the d.l. a LF that supplies so much wind energy im not sure why Joe Biden and the Squad not contract him, a RF in Judge that was healthy last year pretty much but is always a questioned mark, a DH in Stanton that the Yankees don’t want him to smell the grass yet if he DH he gets hurt, the starting rotation full of #4 as Sevy gets hurt every year and a thin bench so yes the Yankees have a bunch of holes and they will be Top 3 in Payroll and still not athletic and wait until they sign Bret Gardner they now will be close to being the oldest team or top 3 ;
Voit was underrated in pinstripes. That said, no way he’d fit on the roster with Rizzo unless Stanton played more OF which wasn’t going to happen. Should get more playing time in SD with the universal DH.
I don’t think he was underrated. He was a poor defender and injured repeatedly. When he was healthy enough to bat, even while hobbled by a sore foot, he got enough reps to lead the league in home runs in the shortened 2020 season. By talent and health, DH is the only realistic position for him. Good luck to him in SD.
RE angt222 – 100% concur with this assessment-
This could be a very underrated acquisition.- Voit brings great offensive, commitment & informal leadership / professional attitude to a very competitive Padre roster..
Provided he can stay healthy & in the lineup, Voit could easily achieve league leaders in HR’;s & ribbies..
For the life of me, I can’t understand why Cashman still has a job in the Bronx.
Not that I mind. As a Sox fan it’s always either a cherry on top or a silver lining to see the NYY fall short every year.
I love how you and others are acting like a 30-31 year old one dimensional oft injured player had any real value. I really liked voits energy and whatnot but let’s be real about this
They dumped salary and got back a 20-year-old first-round pick.
What do you see in this deal that’s bad for the Yankees?
he’s not a first round pick though… he was taken 34th. that’s second round, despite what MLB wants to call it
The Competitive Balance Round A is considered part of the first round of picks. What MLB calls it is what it is.
It’s not this deal, necessarily. But his track record is so mediocre you can’t help but wonder whether he could have done better. I mean, an established competent ML vet for a raw untested rookie? I guess. Just seems like a giveaway.
Luke is only suited to DH. He gets credit in my book for working hard to overcome his defensive shortcomings, but maybe he knows he’s better off not having to struggle with them:
“It helped my career out a lot,” Voit said of the universal DH. “That was big.”
I’m not singing Cashman’s praises, believe me. I think he’s an overrated GM who’s had a huge budgetary advantage over his peers and still put together flawed rosters. But that’s one reason why Luke had to go: Cashman took on Stanton’s huge contract, and other players, like Judge, need DH reps to get off their feet. There weren’t enough reps for Luke at DH on the Yankees.
Somebody scouted this Lange kid enough that the Padres chose him as their second pick in the 2020 draft. That’s not a bad addition in exchange for a one-dimensional slugger with no position on the club.
I wish Luke all the success in the world. He was a good Yankee.
Your take sounds reasonable, and sounds a lot like what I expect Cashman is saying to his bosses. Which is why it gets a raised eyebrow from me.
This was a contract dump which isn’t too bad. Why keep a guy that’s pretty much a DH when you have no need for another DH type? At this point Andujar can go also. He’s organizational depth and that’s it. Eventually the Yanks need to reset the books completely. Taking on crap veteran contracts is only putting a bandaid on the issue. Judge isn’t worth breaking the bank for either. I love him, but DH is going to be his permanent home in 2 years. The Yanks are one of the few teams that can build a young team and then afford to extend them.
Not fun fact: Justin Lange was born on 9/11/01.
It would be good to see him succeed.
Did you expect people to not be born that day? Tragedy in one location, miracle in an another.
Anybody check out the kid’s birthday that the Yanks picked up? September 11, 2001….
That’s super insane. If he makes the big club here I will be rooting for him like a mad man
This is the best we can do??? Voit was hurt 1/2 the year but is otherwise a solid hitter… I’m sry, you mean Oakland couldn’t use him at 1b since they traded Olson??
No, Oakland doesn’t want any salary commitments. Why do people keep thinking that they do? They want prospects like Lange.
Cashman is putting together a package for those A’s pitchers.
“Low balling” the A’s won’t work.
Getting one of the A’s starters should be a priority.
Getting two of their starters is probably not happening.
Have you seen what the A’s have received for the players they have traded so far? How many top 100 prospects? Zero so far.
Langeliers and Pache were both top 100…
1 year of Chris Bassitt was never going to return a top 100 prospect.
Chapman trade sucks, but they chose to sell after a crappy season.
You are correct. They were #68 and #69 on the MLB list in 2021.
Sure, Voit had trouble staying on the field but so will Rizzo. He’s had a weak back (hey how long has he had that oh about a week back) and with age it ain’t getting any better. Rizz is better with the glove however. If Voit is healthy he will be a nice pickup.
I’m loving this truncated spring training. No messing around — get right to playing games.
For those who might not know, free MLB.TV coverage of the games right now.
Don’t see the any great benefits for the Padres…below average defender, hot and cold offensive numbers…a cheaper version of Eric Hosmer?!
This deal does not move the needle for the Padres and gives up a promising 1st round pitching prospect in the process.
They traded for Voit as a DH so the question isn’t is about him being a better hitter than Hosmer (which he is) it’s whether he’s a better hitter than their bench options who we’re going to have to cover DH, which would have been backup catchers like Caratini or Alfaro.
The Padres need more power in their lineup, this is a low cost acquisition that fills their DH hole.
Yep.
109 OPS+ vs 107 OPS+.. Not much difference. The biggest difference is one guy stays healthy and the other is on the IL more than half of every season.
Is Voit better than the Padres current DH options Alfaro and Profar? If he is healthy, that is a definite yes. If not, no. A player is worth exactly zero when they are on the IL.
You can’t speak reason to these posters, they’re probably the same ones on here talking about how the Yankees would have to give up Volpe and Dominguez for Sean Murphy. They don’t get that the only way Voit was going to Oakland is if the Yankees sent the cash along to pay for him as well. The Yankees did just fine with this move acquiring a solid prospect for Voit which was more than I thought they would get.
Voit is a far better hitter than Hosmer.
109 OPS+ vs 107 OPS+. No statistically relevant difference.
Voit has a career OPS+ of 132, Hosmer 108+.statistical relevance!
Voit is 31 and that means he is in decline. His injury woes will get worse and his hitting is not getting better.
If age 31 = decline then the Dodgers are a mess for the next 6 years at 1b. But you were comparing Voit to Hosmer, who is older (32) and even more in decline
Now can we trade Gallo cashman ?
Will the Yankees land one of the Oakland A’s Starters?!
Or will they swing and miss, again?!
Only if they put together a good prospect package.
Man, IKF acting like it’s the playoffs the top of the first ST I inning against the 101-loss Pirates…I absolutely love it! Dude ripped that double to left and then ran his hind quarters off around the bases. Gleyber should have his notepad out.
The former bleacher creature in him must be screaming in joy and I love it dude. Hope he does great things for our club !
Oh, it’s not really this deal that raises the issue in my mind. It’s the overall arc of NYY for the past 20+ years. In that context, I can’t help but look at this and wonder whether a better GM might not have done better.
Ralph Terry died. RIP.
Lange’s stats look terrible. He was 0-3 with a 6 ERA. Am I missing something as to why they traded Voit for this guy? I’m very confused
He has a extremely live arm with big upside. A cashman specialty
20 years old, drafted in the first round. I wouldn’t read too much into a 19-year-old’s first 22 innings in professional ball.
drafted AFTER the first round.. .supplemental pick. already injured too. damaged goods. if he was any good and not hurt he would have gone to college instead of signing – he took the signing bonus and ran (if he could run) and fleeced the Padres out of a signing bonus, and now the Padres have fleeced the Yankees
Voit is on the injured list every other week so the Padres didn’t fleece the Yankees lol. Voit is damaged goods.
That is funny. The best players never make it to college. Lange was throwing 100 mph in high school and he is going to be at the very least a back of the bullpen pitcher in the majors.
Lange is not injured. He was already in minor league camp throwing bullets.
The Padres got fleeced as usual as Voit will be on the IL by the beginning of June after putting up Hosmer-like offensive numbers.
Voit was better than Eric Hosmer offensively but I agree about the IL list
28rings, you’re very focused on the difference between the first 29 picks and the Competitive Balance Round.
Anthony Volpe was the 30th pick in 2019, when there were 32 picks in the first round and two picks in the Compensatory Round.
You really think it’s worth worrying about the difference of four spots between the spot where the Yankees’ current top prospect was picked and the spot where Lange was picked?
@ Pads fan. As a Padre fan you must be devastated
22 innings in 9 starts… that’s not even 3 innings per start
It was rookie league ball. That is average.
The most games possible to start is 13 and the most innings thrown by any starter on the ACL Padres was 36.2.
Your lack of knowledge of minor league baseball is evident.
Yeah some of these guys go crazy judging players off of just a few games.
I loved Luke Voit’s attitude and exuberance. Sad to see him go but understand. Yankees need more players like him. Is it me or are they just old now and likely to suffer more injuries. Hope Cashman has a plan to fill more holes because as they stand currently they are not bringing home a World Series
who is playing the 92 games that Rizzo (and Judge) aren’t allowed to play this year?
Surely we didn’t give up a premier 1B for a flopped 2020 draftee who couldn’t hack it in minor league ball right?! right?! Brian’s calculus isn’t sound math. #fire_cashman
Premier 1B? Who? Certainly you are not trying to call a guy that has never finished a major league season with more than 500 AB and who had a 109 OPS+ last season combined with terrible defense a premier player.
Voit was a 0.3 WAR player. Replacement level. He is 31 so he is in decline. His injury issues will get worse, not better from this point forward. When he was on the field last season he was not as good as Hosmer and Hosmer was awful.
So who are you talking about?
Voit has a career OPS+ of 132
Voit is 31. He played 68 games last season because of injuries. He had a 109 OPS+.
At 31 he is in the declining years of his career and his injuries will increase and his hitting will not improve. That is the sad fact of baseball. Even the best players start to decline once they hit their 30s. Its all downhill for Voit from here.
That’s pessimistic. A lot of players get better in their early 30s, I can think of hundreds. But one could more easily argue that he’s getting better with age. In 2020 his OPS+ was 157 (well above his career ave) and he received MVP votes. It was a short season but he had the same # of ABs in 20 as he did in 21. Maybe the real Voit is somthing in between those best and worst years, which gives credence to his career numbers being a better representation, rather than his worst career year (last year).
Aging curves disagree with you.
Amen
Couldn’t hack it, and he’s only pitched 22 innings? What???
6.95 ERA and hasn’t earned much time. in low league ball. not ever going to play in the Bronx…unless he’s picked for the dizzy bat relay inbetween innings
6.95 ERA and hasn’t earned much time. in low league ball. not ever going to play in the Bronx…unless he’s picked for the dizzy bat relay inbetween innings…
If your posts are a satirical take on your screen name, they’re very good.
He was 19 years old last year, getting his first taste of professional ball.
No way he didn’t destroy his arm already. His peak was the alleged 102 he threw once in grade school.
The Yanks save 5 Million on the contract. Bet they sign Gardy next.
Please, no. Please.
I wouldn’t surprised at all. We really need someone better, hicks will probably hurt himself after a well of the season.
you take that back you monster
Where does LeMahieu figure into NY plans at this point? Expensive utility man?
DJ will start at 1B more than Rizzo… all 81 games at Yankee Stadium, both games at Citi Field and all 9 games in Toronto.
I know we would all like the Yankees to acquire better players for the major league roster, the deficiencies that we all see have been duly noted above. However I fear that this may be it ,other than a minor pitching addition a la Heaney( hopefully not him again) now or at the trade deadline.
Imo One of the reasons Cashman made that deal with Minnesota, was he felt that it addressed all of his perceived needs on the team in one fell swoop at this time, to unload Sanchez finally and get new catching with better defensive abilities, a cheap stopgap shortstop, and A better offensive third baseman, if only a marginal upgrade.
I think he is quite comfortable with waiting till the trade deadline and then stepping in and seeing what he needs at that time, and besides he loves doing that because he can get players at $.50 or less on the dollar because it’s less than half a season. Of course in my opinion it’s a crapshoot because who knows who’s available at that time, if it fills any needs, and if you can move fast enough in the limited time available to get what you need. And let us not forget they feel with the expanded playoffs, They feel they can sneak into the playoffs, they’re not interested in a championship team, that’s quite obvious by their actions.
As a neutral observer, I believe the Yankees offseason was pretty good. The trade with Minn took care of a few areas and prevented them from dishing out a large contract to Story or Correa, thus saving the money for Judge and the signing of Rizzo sets them up nicely in the infield. So I don’t see where the Yankees did not improve their roster this offseason.
A lot of Yankee fans feel these moves are only marginal upgrades along with the risk of JD’s health, myself included. Why be so prudent when they tried so hard to dip below the CBT last year? Money shouldn’t be an issue. They’ve yet to address their catcher position so the jury is still out.
He didnt replace the catching that he offloaded to MIN tho. Higashioka is worse than Gary overall
Preller trades for am often injured player in decline when what the team needed was an OF. Typical. Sorry fellow Padres fans, our season is over already. There is always next season, but only if Preller gets fired.
He can also do both? They added a DH, but there there is nothing here stopping them from also adding an OF.
They gave up a lottery ticket prospect who played in rookie ball last year for an above average MLB hitter that fills a need on their team. Objectively the team is better today than it was yesterday with Voit now at DH.
The Padres are only better if Voit stays healthy. He has not shown he has the ability to do that so far in his career and at 31 years old, his injuries will only increase.
Boring trade, as I am not sure we are any better after the trade
Greg Allen avenges his mistreatment by Cashman last year. Good for him.
Really expected one of the Padres’ excess catchers to be included. Yankees have a need in that area.
Ok, so what does this mean for Hosmer? To me it seems as if they are contemplating trading Hosmer this year or during the off season to rid themselves of his contract. However, as long as Hosmer is present he will be the first baseman and Voit the DH.
I was hoping Cashman was able to unload Stanton and keep Voit as DH. Cashman needs to get rid of that contract no matter how money the Yankees have to swallow. Cashman when it coming to making trades he never thinks outside the box.
Well if they eat a ton of money on unloading Stanton they wouldn’t really be getting rid of the contract.
Even if Hosmer is traded, Voit will be the DH for the few games he is healthy enough to play.
That’s a relief. While Voit is probably an improvement over Tellez/Hiura, he’s a typical Stearns/Counsell trade target and I’m glad Voit isn’t headed to Milwaukee.
This tells me they shopped Voit in every trade banter but nobody they weren’t packaging Voit with any good prospects. The resigned Rizzo and dumped Voit and his $7 million in salary. Basically the Yankees rather have Rizzo for $16 million than Voit at $7 million.
Voit’s estimated to receive $5.25M this year, not $7M. As for Lange:
“Lange, the No. 34 overall pick in the 2020 Draft, is a high-ceiling pitching prospect, though he’s dealt with command issues at the lower levels of the Minor Leagues. He checked in as the team’s No. 8 prospect before the deal.”
mlb.com/news/luke-voit-traded-to-padres
This description seems kind of ignorant. To speak of “the lower levels of the Minor Leagues” when he’s played on only one level, the Arizona Complex League, the lowest rung on the minor league ladder, tells me this writer didn’t do his homework.
Lange only pitched 22 innings in nine games. He had command issues — not terribly unexpected in a 19-year-old — but he also struck out 29 in those 22 innings. To get a team’s No. 8 prospect isn’t such a bad return. The Yankees’ No. 8 prospect is Luis Medina, who slots between Trey Sweeney and Ken Waldichuck.
voit can hit
padre fans should be very happy with this trade
Salary dump. Nothing more.
The Pads get a solid bat; the Yankees get an arm for the future. Works for both teams.
I like this signing. Welcome home Luke Voit.
Luke Voit- Friars new DH, and #4/Cleanup Hitter in the lineup.
Voit is injury-plagued. A typical AJ Preller move.
Who isn’t injury prone these days. It’s called taking risk you ignorant putz
Lange screams bullpen and I’m good with that.