Outfielder Michael Conforto turned down an extension offer from the Mets one year ago, reports Andy Martino of SNY. Per Martino’s tweet, the contract offer was “in the $100 million range” and “would have gone to about $120MM.”
Conforto’s market this winter has been one of the more difficult to predict, given that he followed up a run of four consecutive seasons of excellent production with a bit of a down year right before free agency. One year ago, at the time of this reported offer, Conforto had just finished a 2017-2020 run wherein he launched 97 home runs and hit .265/.369/.495, wRC+ of 133.
Other than the vague approximation of the final value of the offer, there’s nothing publicly known about it, making it difficult to evaluate Conforto’s decision. For instance, that number could have been spread over enough years to make the average annual value a non-starter. But just looking at the final number, it wasn’t outlandish for Conforto to reject that contract at that time. Just as a comparison, Nick Castellanos hit 98 homers over his past four years and put up a wRC+ of 126. He just signed with the Phillies for $100MM over five years. Conforto is a year younger than Castellanos, hits from the left side and doesn’t have the same defensive liabilities. If he had yet another great year at the plate in 2021, he certainly could have topped that $100MM number.
Unfortunately, Conforto had an ill-timed swoon last year, just as he was headed into free agency. Despite lowering his strikeout rate, he only managed 14 homers in 125 games and slashed .232/.344/.384 overall, for a wRC+ of just 106. Based on that performance, MLBTR predicted that Conforto would reject the qualifying offer, not find deals to his liking and eventually settle for a one-year, $20MM deal, hoping for a bounceback campaign and a return to the free agent market without the QO and with a better platform. So far, it’s seems possible things are following that script, as Conforto did indeed reject the QO is now just one of three free agents from that Top 50 list that remain unsigned or retired. (Trevor Story and Jorge Soler are the others.)
It is perhaps worth mentioned that Conforto is represented by the Boras Corporation. Superstar agent Scott Boras has often found creative ways to get his clients paid in a way that also ensures them future opportunities for further contracts. For instance, the aforementioned Castellanos signed a four-year deal with the Reds prior to the 2020 season, which came with opt-outs after each of the first two years of the deal. After a down year in 2020, he stayed put in Cincy and mashed through 2021, triggering his second opt-out and securing his $100MM deal this week. Carlos Rodon was also a candidate to settle for a one-year deal due to his excellent but injury-hampered season, but he ended up securing a two-year, $44MM deal that allows him to opt-out after the first year as long as he throws 110 innings. Carlos Correa went into the offseason looking for $330MM or more but couldn’t find a deal in that range. After switching his representation to Boras during the lockout, he just settled with the Twins for $105.3MM over three years, but with opt-outs after each season, allowing him to re-enter the market essentially at his will and take another shot at a mega payday.
Although it might initially seem like it was a mistake for Conforto to have turned down that $100MM, there’s still a chance he could come out ahead in the end. It’s entirely possible that he and Boras could find a similar deal to those examples, one that finds some middle ground between current financial security and future earning potential. He only turned 29 years of age a few weeks ago, meaning that it’s possible for Conforto to bank some money now and return to the open market going into his age-30 or age-31 season. All he has to do is put 2021 behind him and return to the form he showed in the previous four seasons.
The Baseball Fan
Dumb choice.
Holy Cow!
He’s probably taking a pillow or a Rodon-type contract at this point. I’d be surprised if the AAV is over the QO.
SheaGoodbye
How can it be dumb when we don’t know the number of years?
Guaranteed that without the benefit of hindsight, you would not be saying this.
iverbure
Sheagoodbye it’s dumb because anyone who has any memory whatsoever can remember how corner OFs have done in past free agency and realized there isn’t too many 100 mil plus contracts going around
FredMcGriff for the HOF
Hurry up and sign this guy someone so the 2022 draft order can be figured out.
JackStrawb
Agreed. It was absurd for a corner OFer with average defense, who had never actually put up a 4 rWAR season, to think he was likely to do significantly better than something like 5/$110m. Not when the downside was both more likely, and far more costly.
Boras had been able to get ludicrous 7-8 year contracts for the likes of Choo, Ellsbury, and Werth, so who knows what he was able to talk Conforto into. Still, the responsibility ultimately lies with the player, and we’re no longer in the era where FOs (Kris Bryant aside) are giving good but hardly great players entering the post-prime phases, 7-year deals at premium prices.
Freddie Freeman, after calculating his deferred money, got 6/140m from LA and couldn’t go beyond 5/140m with the Braves. Is that what Conforto thought he might get? And if so, what with not being a franchise icon, why did he think it?
Hello, Newman
Get him Detroit
lionsman86
Why? Greene, baddoo and grossman is solid without spending that much dough
detroitdave84
Tigers will sign a big FA OF next off season Grossman contract will be up and Miggy might retire after this year and get bought out.
BSHH
Conforto is indeed appealing, but I prefer that the Tigers see what their younger OFs can do this year next to Grossman (whose contract is up next year). Next winter, they can look if they will have to get two OFs or can absolutely pounce on signing one.
Hopefully, Conforto is an available option then. By the way, Avila already said that Detroit is done adding players for now.
Gruß,
BSHH
DKphilly
Yikes
geg42
This just in: Conforto injured kicking himself
Poster formerly known as . . .
Breaking News: Boras injured — kicked by Conforto.
Buckner
The problem is finding a team that can get him 450+ at-bats. Boras is running out of places where he will fit.
DarkSide830
maybe not a bad choice at the time, but in hindsight…YIKES
jhomeslice
Would be a great fit for the White Sox, but the past two years they have not signed any free agents with a single year salary higher than 13M. Actually this winter they have not signed anybody who will make even 10M in 2022, unless you count the idiotic decision to pick up Kimbrel’s option. So because of a cheap and spineless owner, count the Sox out.
G13
Their team salary is over 200 million, you call that cheap
danumd87
Yeah 183 mil is cheap. Lolol.
bigjonliljon
I think these contract opt outs should be stopped. Teams should just stop doing them it just shoot’s themselves in the foot. Give a guy 30 million a year and if he plays bad, he stays and continues to collect money he hasn’t really earned nor deserves. If he has a good year, he just opts out and goes for an even bigger contract. Really leaves the team hanging.
Makes no sense
rct
It’s actually good for the teams sometimes. You can get the player for a few years when they’re still good, then avoid having to pay them as they decline with age.
Holy Cow!
If the player opts out and signs with another team and then declines significantly or gets injured, it works out for the first team.
Exhibit A: Albert Belle
There are probably others that fit in that category.
Orichalcon
it actually makes more sense for the team than you’d think, a lot of players lose motivation when they are locked up long term – which is precisely why so many long contracts come back to bite the team pretty badly
i guarantee we will all see more of these, for every 5 year contract the teams are going to say if you get an opt-out after year 2 then we get one after year 3 – and even the year 2 option helps the team because the player will certainly be preparing/training at their best
Roll
would you prefer player options instead because that has been around for quite some time and in essence is the same thing except not only does the player opt out but with the options there is usually a buyout to essentially opt out.
If there is a club option there will be player options and there will be mutual options. You can pretty much guarantee that from the MLBPA.
DogDays2
So we want to stop teams from doing things voluntarily because you think it hurts them?
Wow
JackStrawb
Opt-outs allow teams to get players they otherwise couldn’t afford on shorter deals for higher AAVs. It’s insurance for the player, of course, but at the same time all baseball contracts of whatever length are guaranteed, meaning the player is always insured once he signs an MLB contract.
What Minnesota gets in return for their opt-outs for Correa is a much shorter contract, and a player they otherwise could not afford to give $250-325m to over the next 8-10 years.
The price they pay, of course, is the $35m AAV, plus the matter of being stuck with Correa for $105m if he’s lousy over the next two-plus years, but the Twins absolutely got something valuable in return for that risk. They can also insure the player against catastrophic injury, if they like, so that they’re not completely stuck unless Correa is both bad, but still able to take the field.
Given his track record, the chance that Correa is healthy enough to play but genuinely awful in the field, worth something like 1-2 WAR, is very small.
Joseph Gonzalez
I would take conforto over hicks easily
Em 2
You don’t have to rub it in, mlbtr
PhanaticDuck26
they went out of their way to sympathize with his decision; it’s only in the comments where he’s criticized for not taking the money
VonPurpleHayes
In his defense, he had the peripherals to break out, but stunk it up in 2021. I can still see him as a change of scenery success story. That entire Mets lineup really underperformed last season.
When it was a game.
For years he ways seemed on the cusp of stardom. Just never broke the barrier. Think this is the best he will ever be. Average to sometimes above average.
Netflix&RichHill
133 wRC+ over 4 years is incredible. That’s 18th in baseball from 2017-2020 for players with at least 1500 PA; that’s ahead of votto and Bryant. His 13.3 FWAR was 27th best.
Basketball geek
Conforto is 3 yrs/ 36m at this point in his career…. He’s not going to carry a team. Fits in right, in emergency can play center, if you can get 20 homers 75 RBI’s…. Avaisal Garcia signed for 4yrs /52m…Conforto turned down 100m extension, bad move….Not consistent…Who says he going to adapt to new environment immediately….
377194
Stupid move.
Boras is an ass.
Poster formerly known as . . .
So he’s Borass?
manos
I’m no Orioles fan but if I’m them, I lowball him. What have they got to lose? Especially if they’re serious about trading Mullins and Hays. Most of the teams that were looking for big ticket OFs have done their heavy lifting. Just go somewhere where you have a clear path to playing time and there’s no pressure to win. Lord knows a WS contender isn’t interested in him.
jakec77
Good fit for the O’s. Maybe on a backloaded deal with an opt out. He gets to hit in Camden Yards for a year, and if he builds enough value that he opts out, O’s got him for a value for the one year they had him.
danumd87
Makes less than no sense. The Os have a crowded OF with Mullins, Hays, Santander (sometimes Mountcastle) and substantial highly ranked MiLB OF depth. If he could play 2b, SS or 3b then sure. I like the guy but the Os aren’t at all incentivized as a non contender to add a guy at what’s their deepest position. And at the cost of a pick. You guys shouldn’t quit your day jobs to be GMs is all…
jakec77
Mets- go get him back.
He is not a superstar, and maybe this pass through free agency has helped teach him that.
But he’s a good solid player who can perform in NY.
6 years, around 110 million.
Don’t worry about how the playing time sorts itself out. Injuries will take care of that for you 3/4 of the time.
Basketball geek
I’m a Met fan for years… Mets probably offered 100M before the 2021 season, before he choked…. They signed Canha for 2 yrs 26.50M. With this late in free agency, 1 yr deal… Ask the Padres about a long contract about Hosmer, how is that going?…: Average hitter, though can play field… Phillies paid Schwarber and Catelleanos because they are mashers, didn’t sign him because they wanted stars, not average…
Canosucks
I hope the Mets never get him back and if they do they should sign him for the league minimum! They owe this BUM nothing. Let him lay in the bed he made!
Mets don’t need a guy who can’t hit in the clutch and proof is 2021 season in his contract year he CHOKED!
I am sure he will perform ok outside of NY with no pressure.
JackStrawb
@jakec77 6/$110m when the far more reliable Story got 6/$140m? That’s not the best idea for a player who may well never see his 2017-2020 again. His 2020 BABIP was a complete fluke. Normalize it and he’s a decent but hardly great corner OFer with average defense. Why on Earth would you want to lock up that player’s age 29-34 seasons when he stands a good chance of being out of baseball halfway through that deal?
NYMetsFanatic
Greed doesn’t look good on Conforto. He had a very rocky beginning offensively and defensively, and has never met the level of success that was touted about him. I was never really fond of him for those reasons but after reading this article and how he chose Scott Boras as his agent only underlines it for me. To all the teams out there and especially the one who eventually does sign him; I hope they’re used to being underwhelmed.
mlbnyyfan
If Yankees could somehow unload Gallo I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on Conforto
Joseph Gonzalez
I have been praying all off season for cashman to dump Gallo. I can’t believe how overrated he is on here. One of the absolute worst hitters I’ve ever seen and his home runs and walks can’t hide that. Good defense though
When it was a game.
There were times a guy barely hitting .200 was out of league. I just can’t see a team winning with a player like that in the middle of a lineup.
Joseph Gonzalez
How did he work 110 or so walks and almost hit 40 home runs last season but had a ops under 810 ? How is this possible ???? ! He’s only had more than 15 doubles in a season ONCE despite having so much power. You would think he would find the gaps. Another fun fact. Despite his walks he’s only had a obp of 350 or more twice in his career.
Joseph Gonzalez
Oh and he’s only had 100 or more hits in a season ONCE in his career. In 616 PA this past season he only had 99 !!!!!!!! That’s just ridiculously awful for a Everyday ML hitter
DogDays2
Let’s give him a shot to acclimate for a full season.
I could be wrong but.,.
JackStrawb
That would have been when batting average was wildly overrated. Even so, Dave Kingman hit .198 one season (for guess who!) and still hung around for another three years.
CleaverGreene
A lot of Met fans wanted to give him 200M last year..
Reyday
He was wildly up and down Conforto for us and never truly broke out, doubt the real fans wanted that contract for em. I no I didn’t want him back long term
VonPurpleHayes
The only extension Conforto was interested in was his elbow against the Marlins.
Krlnd
Ha ha, VonPurpleHayes!
That was really embarrassing when Conforto did that bush-league move and it was so obvious.
Even though I’m a Mets fan, I admit that was definitely a tainted walk-off win because the pitch easily could’ve been a called strike.
Gwynning
Logging, 10:42AM Hawaiian time, Tuesday March 22nd. Von Haze wins the internet for the day!
Sunday Lasagna
Red Sox Conforto, Hernandez & Verdugo in the OF with JBJ as a 4th and JD a full time DH.
JoeBrady
I’d prefer Story, but if he goes elsewhere, Conforto would be okay. The lefty part hurts a little, but Verdugo/JBJ/Conforto would be a good OF, and Kiki is still top-tier as a 2B.
Basketball geek
Conforto fits in Fenway, but Bloom GM doesn’t hand out big contracts.. 1yr deal… just traded Renfroe, sold high, got 2 picks plus…. Didn’t want to resign Renfroe…Gm’s today with analytics don’t give long contracts out unless they are stars….Sox want Story….
egrossen
Where’s “Mr. Lol” when you need him?
Holy Cow!
Probably banned. There was a Mr lol 2 for a while, too.
TradeAcuna
It is only fitting for him to sign with the Marlins given what happened last season
Wisdom shared
Just a question, but where are any protections for the owners of players signing multi-year contracts with opt outs involved. Why doesn’t the owner have the same protection so if the player crashes and burns in the first year, why does the player have the option to collect another 35M in the case of Correa, but if he hits 232 – 10 home runs, 680 OPS, etc, shouldn’t the team have the option to cut the player loose, saving the 35M each year that the player doesn’t earn it. Contracts built on that would have seen Eric Davis, Hosmer,, Myers, Stanton, plus numerous others released by their teams, instead of being a millstone that handicaps the team for years. Just a food for thought.
Holy Cow!
Reinsdorf put in a “diminishing skills” clause into Frank Thomas’s big contract and it was exercised. I doubt any player signs with one of those clauses in there.
stymeedone
The owners can put that in the contract now. They just can’t find a player willing to sign it.
raisinsss
I believe the phrase you’re looking for is “team option.”
TheLawAbides
Can’t Owners trade any contract they want and if their player gets injured don’t they collect insurance off the contract?
Yankee Clipper
Hey, two more good examples of why maybe holding out isn’t the best option – a la Correa, M. Chapman.
Sometimes they get the big contract, other times, it’s March 20th & nobody’s calling your phone.
nottinghamforest13
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StupendousYappi
Dont blame him who would want to play with the Mets for that long? Lindor only signed that contract because they gave him twice the market value. Met will have to overpay to get anyone to come there. Ive been in that area of queens it is disgusting.
Bill M
Good point. The players are always hanging out in Queens.
Hyatt Visa
PLEASE stop with the ‘Superstar agent Scott Boras’ – he’s just an agent. How’d he do for Carlos Correa? Would a ‘superstar agent’ cost his client $170MM????
DogDays2
He’s a great agent, you just don’t like him.
Gwynning
Could be a matter of semantics… he is an agent for superstars after all, no?
bhambrave
Marlins should sign Conforto.
bfg
Does Conforto make any sense for the Blue Jays?
Possibly on a one year, show me deal ala Semien last year? Long term deal makes sense too. Much needed LH in a RH dominant lineup, moves Grichuk to bench/4th OF.
TalkSomeSense
Grichuk already is the 4th outfielder. Conforto would make him the 5th .
GarryHarris
It would only make sense if the Jays trade away two of their OFs.,
dougww
Is he still not vaccinated? If he isn’t he cannot play in Canada and New York City. That could be an issue to any team wanting to sign him.. Next year that might not matter, but this year it could.
delete my account please
He bet on himself. Isn’t that what people always say when a guy turns down a contract in order to hit the free agent market and gets a bigger contract? Well, sometimes when you bet on yourself you lose and sometimes you lose big, Michael.
padam
Boros isn’t having a good offseason, is he.
thickiedon
Sheeeeeit, he gettin’ paid good regardless. No sweat off his back lol
sfes
Not sure about this Boros fellow, But Boras is laughing all the way to the bank
roykirk1
Actually, Boras is having a GREAT season. Correa switched representation in… January? I’m guessing his previous reps retained some percentage of his next contract… work in progress and all that. So…. his contract is PERFECT for Boras… he gets second highest annual salary … And next year, when he will most likely opt out and sign a huge 250+ deal… Boras will get ALL of that commission.
angt222
Conforto isn’t the only player that probably regrets that decision. Apparently Rizzo, Baez & Bryant all turned down extensions that would have paid them more than what they signed for in FA this offseason.
thickiedon
Damn greedy owners!
Richard Alicea
Greedy players I might add.
mets7300
Mets Don’t want Him Back: They want the Draft Pick.
raisinsss
I’d take the pick over him at just about any price. Personally I think he’s going to be an average hitter and below average rf from this point.
HBan22
Correa and Conforto greatly overplayed their hands. Imagine turning down $120 million when you aren’t even a truly elite offensive player, or rejecting $275 million regardless of how good you are. Big egos and greediness seldom pay off for just about anyone in the end.
Justplayball@13
He’s good not great therefore 100M is ridiculous. He is not worth anywhere close to that. And “a bit of a down year” .232 and 14 HR is horrible for anyone you would consider giving a big contract.
He should be happy getting a 1 year 12M to 14M to play with the Marlins to show the league something.
roykirk1
What if it was 10 years for $100M? Without knowing the years, its impossible to know if it was a good deal or not.
JackStrawb
10/100m is obviously absurd but only because it effectively defers money, something it doesn’t appear was under discussion. 5/100m to 5/120m pays Conforto until he’s very probably out of the game or at most a 5th OFer, making the amount rather than the years the key point.
He’s a 3 win player per 650 PA closing in on 30 years of age, and below average on defense according to dWAR, to the point where his defense will swallow any hitting by 2025.
3 win players at 28 (and in fact he was a 0.8 WAR player at 28) can hardly expect to play past 33, if that. It’s the money, not the years, that counts here.
377194
Marlins picked up Soler, so he’s not going there.
MarlinsFanBase
Thanks goodness!
sigdawg25
do the agents work for the players or the players work for the agents? sometimes I wonder.
pirateking24
Moron.
brucenewton
Put him in hitter’s park for one year and he’ll make bank next year. Red Sox.
eephus11
Pillow contract with the Cardinals could be good for both. DH and LF pushing Bader to a situational play to keep him from slumping so often.
MarlinsFanBase
Some team is going to overpay for this average guy because of all the NY Hype and Mets Hyperbole he enjoyed his entire career.
So glad it is very unlikely that we’ll be the sucker that signs him for some ridiculous contract that very likely hurts the second the ink dries.
He couldn’t even win a game against Anthony Bass with a hit. He had to stick his elbow out. Absolutely pathetic considering that so many other hitters were able to tee off on Bass…even the strikeout master, Javier Baez, a day after he struck out in a key moment and a day before we struck him out 5 times.
Conforto, when you get paid, send the Mets PR Machine and Hyperbole broadcast team a big thank you.
LongTimeFan1
@MarlinsFannBase,
The Hyperbole – the overarching reach – is from you. The bashing. Conforto’s a solid player, first round pick who had bad 2021.. He’s also consummate professional. I’ve been watching him since he made his big league debut.
That he turned down 6-figure extension, is looking like mistake for making that in one long term deal. The jury is still out on that. Before the 2021 season, he was definitely on a 9-figure trajectory. 2022 will be his age 29 season. He has many years left to get paid what could amount to 100 mil+ over time should he produce similar to his pre 2021.
JackStrawb
The jury’s not out. Turning down 120m was simply foolish. Conforto was very probably led around by the nose by Boras, who pointed to longer deals to the likes of Jayson Werth that teams are no longer giving out any more to good, not great, post-prime players, especially not corner OFers.
Who’s the last 3 win corner guy with declining defense who beat $120m? Many of those players aren’t getting particularly close to $100m.
Richard Alicea
As a Mets fan this boat has sailed. He was terrible with runners in scoring position and though he played an adequate RF, that’s all he did. The Mets were more than generous offering him the QO so he can reestablish his worth and he turned it down, so now he sits wondering who is going to give him a job. No longer a Mets issue, just send us our pick as required and we’ll be happy. Once upon a time I dreaded losing him, but after 2021, I soured on him and realized that his skills and abilities or lack thereof, were replaceable. Now we have Canha and I’m more than happy with him.
CoreyC
Conforto will be the annual Boras client that doesn’t get signed until May/June, and at a much lower than deserved rate.
Canosucks
Conforto’s “deserved rate” is the league minimum!
GarryHarris
SFG, CLE and KCR… The best teams needing a RF.
deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger
Loser!