The Mets have acquired right-hander Chris Bassitt from the Athletics in a deal now officially announced by both teams ESPN’s Jeff Passan was the first to report that Bassitt was on the way to New York, while Joel Sherman of The New York Post reported Oakland will receive right-handed pitching prospects J.T. Ginn and Adam Oller in return for the 33-year-old All-Star.
Bassitt had been tabbed as one of the likelier players to be switching teams this offseason, as he had only one year of arbitration control remaining (at a projected $8.8MM salary) before free agency, and the A’s were known to be looking to cut payroll. With the Mets searching for further pitching upgrades, Bassitt seemed like a logical target for New York to add to a rotation that also saw Max Scherzer come to Queens prior to the lockout.
With Scherzer and Jacob deGrom atop the rotation, Bassitt will slot right alongside Taijuan Walker and Carlos Carrasco in what is now looking like one of baseball’s better rotations if everyone is healthy. Granted, that is a big if, given how deGrom and Carrasco each missed big chunks of the 2021 season due to injury, and even Scherzer battled a dead arm during the postseason.
Bassitt himself had a major injury scare last August when he was hit in the face with a line drive and needed surgery to repair facial fractures. After a rather remarkable recovery, Bassitt even returned to the mound for two abbreviated starts after spending over a month on the injured list. That comeback capped off a very impressive season for Bassitt, who has been a solid performer for most of his seven MLB seasons, and quietly been one of baseball’s better pitchers over the last two years.
After an eighth-place finish in AL Cy Young voting in the abbreviated 2020 season, Bassitt continued his fine form over 157 1/3 frames in 2021, resulting in a tenth-place spot in the AL Cy race and his first All-Star berth. Bassitt posted a 3.15 ERA, 25% strikeout rate, and 6.1% walk rate, as well as some very strong hard-hit ball numbers. Not known for his high velocity or big spin rates, Bassitt has a five-pitch mix that has generally done a good job of keeping hitters off-balance.
These are some very solid numbers for a No. 3 starter, and it provides the Mets with some front-of-the-rotation caliber pitching should deGrom, Carrasco, or any other pitchers miss time. Adding Bassitt also lengthens the pitching mix as a whole, as the Mets can now deploy Tylor Megill and David Peterson primarily as spot starters, Triple-A depth, or even long relievers depending on the team’s needs.
Between Bassitt and free agent signings Starling Marte and Mark Canha, there is a distinct shade of Oakland green-and-gold coming to the 2022 Mets roster. Mets team president Sandy Alderson has longstanding ties to the A’s organization, of course, working as Oakland’s GM from 1983-97 and then returning to the organization as an adviser in 2019-20 before the Mets brought Alderson back when Steve Cohen took over the franchise.
It is quite possible that tonight’s trade could be the first of many for Billy Beane and company over the next few weeks, depending on just how far the A’s go with their latest selloff. While the club has always resisted a complete teardown in Beane’s long tenure, such prominent names as Sean Manaea, Matt Olson, Matt Chapman, and Frankie Montas could also potentially be heading out the door. Manaea is entering his final year of team control, while Olson/Chapman/Montas each have two remaining seasons of arbitration eligibility.
In reloading the roster, the A’s have added a pair of new arms. Ginn is the highest-touted of the duo, ranked fifth by MLB Pipeline and sixth by Baseball America on their lists of the Mets’ top 30 prospects. A second-round pick in the 2020 draft, the Mississippi State product had a 3.03 ERA over 92 combined innings with New York’s A- and high-A affiliates in 2021. It was a solid performance for Ginn’s first pro season, and perhaps even more impressive considering that Ginn was returning from Tommy John surgery in early 2020. Ginn has a quality fastball (usually in the low 90s but has reached into the 95-97mph range) and sinker, plus he generates a lot of ground balls.
As noted by Newsday’s Tim Healey, with Ginn now on his way to the Athletics, the Mets have now parted ways with five of their six players selected in the 2020 draft — the last amateur draft under the purview of former Mets GM Brodie Van Wagenen. Fifth-rounder Eric Orze is the last player remaining, as Ginn, Pete Crow-Armstrong (for Javier Baez), Isaiah Greene (for Carrasco and Francisco Lindor), and Matthew Dyer (for Rich Hill) were all traded in high-profile deals, while Anthony Walters was released.
Oller was originally a 20th-round pick for the Pirates in 2016, and his career includes stints in indy ball and the Australian Baseball League as well as minor league stretches with the Bucs, Giants, and (for the 2021 season) Mets. A starter for the bulk of his minor league career, Oller has a 4.05 ERA over 380 1/3 career innings on the farm, and he reached both the Double-A and Triple-A levels for the first time in 2021. It stands to reason that the 27-year-old could serve as some rotation depth for the A’s this season, as a big league-ready arm that can step in for some starts should a need arise (via injury or more trades).
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The Baseball Fan
Nice. Love the hot stove being back. The combo of this and the season starting soon is awesome
Benjamin560
Thats all it took!?!
case
He only has one year of control left, the return is fine.
GarryHarris
I was thinking just the opposite. I thought that Adam Oiler should’ve been called up last season. I also think that J.T. Ginn will eventually make the starting rotation in the next two years.
i like al conin
So true. Kind of reminds me of the Winter meetings a few years ago when San Diego made all those moves. I remember refreshing my app here constantly and each time a new trade was posted. That was amazing .
Francys01
The Mets starting rotation is one of the best in the national league, if not the best. I’m not a Mets fan because from that division I like the Phillies, but that team have really good players. Wow and they are not done yet, they will address their bullpen now and probably add another outfielder. Plus, they need to decide if they are going to trade either Dominic Smith, JD Davis or Jeff McNeil.
SoCalBrave
on paper
raisinsss
@on paper
What an absolutely astute observation to note that the season has not yet started.
You Can Put It In The Books
He was a finalist for the Cy Young last year and was absolutely filthy at that. Now if you said Kershaw was toast, at least that one holds some butter.
You Can Put It In The Books
This was supposed to be in reply to @Wjnslow Leach below saying “Scherzer is toast”. Sorry everybody, I’ll see myself out.
Get Off My Mound
Welp, the firesale begins. Hopefully these 2 guys actually amount to something, a little surprised we didn’t get any MLB ready pieces in the deal.
Astros2017&22Champs
Adam oller is 27 and did well enough at triple a last year. Hes getting called up this year
deweybelongsinthehall
Still, a projected MLB starter should have returned more. Surprised this was the best offer.
phenomenalajs
J.T. Ginn has talent. Mets don’t have a deep farm so giving up a top pitching prospect is rough for depth. Still, the Mets are going for it so I get it.
You Can Put It In The Books
Mets have the #10 and #11 picks plus two compensation picks in this year’s draft. Plus, I think they’ll trade two of McNeil, Dom Smith and JD Davis with one returning a reliever and the other returning a prospect. Ginn stings for sure, but they’ll have the opportunity to replenish quickly and they still have Allan.
Get Off My Mound
Did not know this, know next to nothing about these guys, I guess that does help take a little sting off of it.
PitcherMeRolling
If the A’s are selling, why would they want MLB ready players back?
Get Off My Mound
The A’s are very well known for acquiring MLB ready talent alongside prospects when selling off pieces as a way of offsetting who they just traded. Look at the Donaldson trade and the Andrew Bailey trade as examples of that. Kendall Graveman, Brett Lawrie and Sean Nolin were MLB ready pieces when Donaldson was traded, and Josh Reddick when Bailey was traded. And those are just 2 examples of many.
PitcherMeRolling
Were those trades part of a “firesale”?
GarryHarris
The A’s don’t “firesale”. Trading players at their peak value is their M.O.
jimthegoat
@GarryHarris “Haven’t” doesn’t mean “don’t.”
YourDreamGM
@PitcherMeRolling They lost a starter and getting one back in trade is cheaper than replacing via free agency. Won’t know they are selling for sure until more players go. Moving an expiring piece for what looks to be a solid replacement is just a smart move.
PitcherMeRolling
Who is the solid replacement for Bassitt in this scenario?
Yankee Clipper
PMR: Whomever they get from the Yanks for Olson…lol.
YourDreamGM
Oller will be up this summer. Has the ability to be backend starter. Replacement in rotation depth. Not replacement as being as good as Bassitt.
Get Off My Mound
Hopefully Adam Oller. Any prospect is a player a team is taking a chance on. We’ll have to wait and see.
PitcherMeRolling
Oller has pitched a total of 44 innings at Triple A and never in the majors. If the A’s are counting on him to produce at the MLB level in 2022, they’re probably in trouble.
PitcherMeRolling
Being someone who pitches and being a replacement for 157 innings at the MLB level are two different things.
kingbum
Meh, Beane was never getting more for Bassit he is selling high. I like the move for Beane. Oakland has to be high risk because its low payroll
JoeBrady
PitcherMeRolling16 hours ago
Who is the solid replacement for Bassitt in this scenario?
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JT Ginn
It’s in the article above.
jimthegoat
@JoeBrady So are you saying JT Ginn will pitch over 150 innings in the majors with an ERA of 3.15 or lower in 2022?
PitcherMeRolling
JT Ginn isn’t pitching in the majors this year. Pretty good chance he doesn’t pitch in the majors next year, either.
PitcherMeRolling
Ginn isn’t pitching in the bigs this year. Try again? Maybe understand the context of the conversation this time?
PitcherMeRolling
Ginn isn’t pitching in MLB at all this year. Nonetheless pitching 157 innings.
Stevil
Seriously?
There’s less risk with players near-ready and they’re not a team that can survive a lengthy rebuild. They need fans shelling out every clam they have.
PitcherMeRolling
Then why did they trade for Adam Oller and someone who won’t be MLB ready for 2-3 years if he pans out?
jimthegoat
@Stevil Less risk means less reward. If you target major league ready prospects they will come with less upside than if you target players who are further away, all other things equal. Also, who says their fans can’t survive a lengthy rebuild? Cubs fans did. Astros fans did. Nats fans did. Would you rather be stuck in the middle or suck for a few years but have a higher peak?
Stevil
Ginn was ranked 5-7 (Pipeline/BA/Fangraphs) and Oller had a breakout 2021.
Less risk doesn’t always mean less reward and this is typical of what we’ve seen the As do in the past, so this shouldn’t be surprising.
Stevil
Oller is 27 and was named their pitcher of the year, pitching in AA and AAA. He’ll very likely debut this year.
Ginn was a college draftee. They tend to advance faster and he’s expected to debut in 2023.
A little research can ho a long way.
PitcherMeRolling
Oller will almost definitely debut this year. What’s the upside? Seriously, that’s not rhetorical.
College players do typically advance faster. College players fresh off TJ, lesser so.
A little research can go . . . Oh, you already said that. You just didn’t abide by it.
jimthegoat
Absolutely less risk means less reward! If a team is giving you less risky prospects, the only reason they would give you ones with the same upside is if you increase what you are sending back to them. All other things equal, the less volatility and more proximity the A’s expect in return, the less upside they are going to get. What I am saying is that because they are going to suck for the next 3 years, proximity would actually be a bad thing and upside is more important than minimizing volatility.
By the way, it’s go* a long way. If you are going to end your comment with something snarky at least spell it right.
padam
@pitcher – I think the upside is the ceiling for potential and control of said players if they meet or get close to it. If not, why else would Billy make the deal – he’d have just as well held on to CBass. This is controlled potential for talent about to walk out the door.
SeibuLionsNPB
My ex girlfriend could ho a long way too…oh wait she wasn’t in this trade.
Stevil
The surgery was in 2020 and he just threw a solid season advancing to high-A and should be in AA this year. How’s that slow?
Oller’s upside is a back-end starter and there’s no reason to think he’s destined for relief.
That’s a solid return for one year of Bassitt.
Stevil
Congratulations on catching the typo. Thankfully you were able to figure it ot.
That’s about the only thing you got.
Have a nice Sunday.
thecrown24
@PMR it was Matt Alan who had the TJ not Ginn just letting you know
thecrown24
@PMR you said fresh off TJ been 2 years now I think Ginn will bounce back just fine. He’s probably about a year and half away from the show at best I would say without any setbacks but that’s just my opinion.
PitcherMeRolling
@padam anytime you trade for players, you’ll have control of them and their potential. That doesn’t answer the question about Oller’s upside.
PitcherMeRolling
No, Ginn had TJ too. It’s almost like 2 things can be true at once.
PitcherMeRolling
@thecrown Ginn was fresh off TJ when he was drafted, which is what the conversation was about. Whether or not he bounces back or you think he’ll be good doesn’t have anything to do with what I said.
PitcherMeRolling
@stevil I didn’t say Ginn was progressing slowly. I said he’s probably 2-3 years from the bigs. Which he is. If the A’s could guarantee he’ll be a MLB ready pitcher in 3 years, they would take that.
You think a pitcher with “back-end starter” upside is a replacement for Bassitt? I’m not talking about a decent return, I’m talking about a replacement, like you said.
JoeBrady
PitcherMeRolling15 hours ago
Then why did they trade for Adam Oller and someone who won’t be MLB ready for 2-3 years if he pans out?
=================================
He’ll be with the As in 2022. I’d bet on that.
If you want to whine, you need to be more focused.
PitcherMeRolling
Oller will be, Ginn won’t. What’s your point?
jimthegoat
out*
And you can stop hiding behind your snide little “Have a nice Sundays” now.
dsett75
Pitcher Me Rolling……Oakland is like TB. They sell for financial reasons, but want ML ready talent back to stay competitive. Bassitt is projected to make $8.8 million. Apparently that’s too expensive for the A’s so they want guys who are inexpensive, but ready for the show…..or at least close to ready.
PitcherMeRolling
Every team wants cheap MLB ready guys. Swapping out Bassitt for Oller isn’t staying competitive.
jimthegoat
No dsett75. You’re wrong. They are in the early stages of a rebuild which means they want to trade for prospects who are a little further away. If they trade for dudes who are ML ready they will just end up burning their pre-arb years on bad teams the next few years. And prospects who are further away will have more upside.
jimthegoat
Why would they want a MLB ready piece back in the deal? They’re going to suck in 2022 with an MLB-ready piece coming back, they can suck in 2022 without an MLB-ready piece coming back.
Get Off My Mound
Thats your opinion. You have no idea whether they will suck or not. The A’s more than not surprise people when they are supposed to “suck”. Your logic is off. Its easy to think and figure why anh team would want an MLB ready piece in any trade. All it takes is just the smallest amount of baseball knowledge. Which I’m sure you have in spades. 😉
jimthegoat
I’m gonna bookmark this thread so that 6 months from now I can drag you for being 100% WRONG.
myaccount2
@jimthegoat- Have you paid attention at all to how the A’s have operated over the years? Based on these comments, you clearly haven’t. They may suck this year, but acquiring near MLB-ready talent is their MO, and given the new CBA they have less reason than before to straight up tank. If they’re awful this season, they’ll almost assuredly ťry to improve, so assessing them 6 months from now wouldn’t prove your point because someone has to finish last in a division and it could be them, regardless of who they acquire via trade this offseason.
jimthegoat
@myaccount2 That’s exactly it! If they are going to finish last anyway, why would they NEED prospects who are major league ready? They are going to finish last with them, they can finish last without them. Better to get guys who are maybe 2 years out so they don’t burn their service time on bad teams.
And as said before, if you target prospects who are closer to the majors they won’t have as much upside as if you target prospects who are further away, all other things equal.
jimthegoat
@Get Off My Mound You were saying…?
jimthegoat
@myaccount2 Yikes. This comment was just a disaster for you.
myaccount2
Huh? I was right about nearly everything.
I said they may suck this year. Check.
I said they would acquire near-MLB talent. Check.
I said they’ll almost assuredly try to improve. Check… Adding MLB-ready arms like Muller and Tarnok are huge gets who could anchor their rotation for years to come. Promoting Langeliers so they could trade Murphy was smart, and they absolutely killed the Montas trade since he’s horrible. And signing Diaz was a shrewd move. I like Esteury Ruiz a lot long term.
I said assessing them 6 months from now wouldn’t prove your point… still true. It’s pointless to evaluate any of those moves based on performance until we’ve seen more from the Olson, Murphy, Montas, and Manaea trades and give those players time to grow.
If anything, I think my comment was proven correct. They acquired a bunch of MLB-ready guys and are likely to test them out in 2023. As a Mariners fan, I’m not excited about how good they could be a few seasons from now. Their rebuild is working brilliantly.
Also, your comment about it being dumb to trade for MLB-ready guys still makes no sense. They’re obviously trying to reload so this group will be able to compete sooner than later. If they got all A ball guys, they’d suck for four more years.
It’s weird you came back to this thread thumping your chest when I was proven completely correct and your comments still look silly. Haha.
jimthegoat
Funny. We were part of the same conversation yet view the outcome differently.
The A’s basically just fired saled their whole roster, including trading Sean Murphy for an absolute joke of a return. None of those dudes are impact players and none will help them as much in the next 3 years as Sean Murphy would have.
I’m really not sure what about the A’s’ moves this offseason screams “trying to reload so this group will be able to compete sooner than later” to you but please know that you’re wrong.
They’re going to suck for four more years even if they get all close-to-MLB ready guys. Might as well target guys with more upside who won’t already been in arb 4 years from now. The A’s are in the early stages of a rebuild. Teams in that position go for upside over proximity.
myaccount2
I mean, I’m not really sure how you can view the outcome differently. I stated everything plainly and just pointed out how it was true. You’re trying to create your own narrative. One that is incorrect, by the way.
As for the Murphy statement, sure, he’s a fantastic catcher and underrated but the A’s aren’t going to prioritize and build a roster around one specific guy. They don’t have the funds. So what’s the point of keeping Murphy around? For them, it’s much better to see if Ruiz, Tarnok, and Muller work out, and Muller has already demonstated he can be a capable 3 or 4.
We all knew they were going to undergo a fire sale the moment they traded Olson so it’s not some kind of “gotcha” to discuss their fire sale. The point is they’re trading those pieces for MLB-ready talent and wouldn’t do that if they didn’t hope to compete soon. If they were in the early stages of a rebuild, they wouldn’t be acquiring dudes who have made their debuts. That’s just a fact. They’ll probably suck again this season while weeding out players, then do the A’s way of building. You may think that’s not a good way for them to try to be competitive but please know you’re wrong.
jimthegoat
It’s not a good way for them to be competitive. It’s better for them to target guys who might be further out but have more upside. If they aren’t going to make the playoffs they might as well go 0-162. And when they do make their return to contention it’s better than their core players NOT already be in arb, especially as a small market team.
If they weren’t in the early stages of a rebuild they wouldn’t have traded a 5-WAR player with 3 years of control for THAT.
WillDS
Clearly you don’t understand how intelligent small market teams operate
jimthegoat
Clearly you don’t either if you think the A’s are in a position where it makes sense to trade for major league ready prospects.
DogDays2
This guy thinks Mlb rebuilds take 10 years or something…
jimthegoat
Last A’s rebuild took 3 years. If the current one takes 3 years and they trade for someone major league ready that player will already be in arb by the time they return to contention. Plus him playing well the next 3 years will hurt their draft position. This is not a difficult concept.
You Can Put It In The Books
Is it really a rebuild if you never win anything / sustain success beyond a year or two?
JoeBrady
You Can Put It In The Books11 hours ago
Is it really a rebuild if you never win anything / sustain success beyond a year or two?
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They’ve been one of the better teams in BB over the past 10 years, so I have no idea what you mean “a year or two”.
A_Cespedes_For_The_Rest_Of_Us
Ginn is pretty much ready… Super polished college pitcher that would have gone top 15 (was actually talked about as possibly the top college arm) but went down w TJS before the draft and fell to the 2nd… High 90s sinkerballer that will consistently outperform peripherals and was good last year in first post tj season and threw a nice amt of innings… Will probably debut this season esp if the As continue to sell off their rotation
You Can Put It In The Books
I agree with all of this except I think he doesn’t debut until next season. Hopefully breaks camp with the A’s. Good get for the A’s.
ralstar
He doesn’t have a high 90s sinker! Pre TJS he pitched in the high 90s w a slider as his pit pitch. He’s now a sinkerballer in the low 90s that generates tons of GBs. He’s still looks good, but he defn doesn’t have a high 90s sinker
JoeBrady
May ’23 is my guess. That’s as close to ready as it gets. If he was ready today, he’d be pitching for the Mets.
CleaverGreene
Oller is going to be a good ML starter. Has just as much chance a Ginn IMO.
oaklandfan22
Let the fire sale begin, that Mets rotation going to be nuts. You’ll be missed C Bass.
steven st croix
Mets Astros World Series 2022
Sheesh
I think I’m melting
stevecohenMVP
Yes.
phillies give me depression
finna kms
A Seal
WOW
13Morgs13
Very good underrated move by the Mets
FSF
Underrated? It just happened and I’m very impressed. Who are these Mets of 2022? They have no respect for their long standing history and tradition of driving their team and organization into the ground.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Let’s not schedule the championship parade just yet. All they have done is shovel money at a bunch of guys on the wrong side of 30.
FSF
No one’s ordering confetti and I’m not a fan of the Mets. And it doesn’t matter how good your team is because the playoffs are almost a random crapshoot. But still, all of their moves over the past few months have all been without any due criticism from my perspective.
Samuel
@ FSF;
The playoffs may be a “random crapshoot” to fans that follow the sport via the national sports media, but MLB has been a playoff league for years now. The new CBA even makes that even more so. FO’s build teams not so much to win in the season, as to get a playoff spot and win in the tournament.
FSF
Pretty much every baseball fan understands that and it was an integral part of the labor negotiations. What’s your point?
SocoComfort
The issue here with the Mets is that they haven’t done much differently under the new ownership. They still just throwing money to older players. I’m not saying the Mets won’t win but the culture seems similar in regards to talent. The Braves have a far better long term future. The Mets are still in a win this year or next mentality. The Braves are built to compete over a longer period of time due to their youth in hopes of winning a Championship in that time frame (which they did). The Mets have a shorter term plan which makes it less probably of getting a title. Just my thoughts Take Care Folks.
FSF
That’s exactly what Cohen said his goals are. WIN NOW! And he’s putting his money where his mouth is. This isn’t about playing armchair GM. With that explicit goal, what is it that you would have them do exactly?
You Can Put It In The Books
@Soco
The publicly stated plan is to spend above the tax initially while investing $250M+ in building the analytics department. Then continue to spend at the tax, pillared by the analytics team and an already #14-16 ranked system that is getting better. Remember, they have two top 10 picks this year plus two comp picks. I won’t sit here and say giving up Ginn is easy, but it is less impactful within the context of the overall plan. Their window is wide open.
sfes
No, not the same plan for the Mets. They’re trying what the Dodgers did. Skyrocket thr payroll try to win now, keep your best prospects etc.
Yankee Clipper
MLB: “Yeah, the ol’ Yankees days of one team acquiring several top players through FA & trades in a single offseason are finally over small-market friends!”
Steven Cohen: “Oh yeah? Hold my beer. Hey Hal, isn’t this how daddy used to do it?”
SoCalBrave
calling something underrated is an overrated comment
billybeane
Absolutely loved Chris Bassitt. I’ll definitely have to watch some mets games now with him, Canha & Marte
Captain Judge99
@billybean- you should have been watching the Mets all along, considering they drafted you.
zacharydmanprin
Bill Bean was drafted by the Yankees and the Tigers.
Billy Beane was drafted by the Mets.
And your comment doesn’t make any sense.
Captain Judge99
@zacharydmanprin- it’s definitely time for the A’s to move. Does that comment make any sense to you? Enjoy the fire sale and no playoffs this year, tough guy. The A’s should be forced to keep all their players so they have to relocate faster, instead of other teams having to bail them out.
jonbluvin
Didn’t cost much. Ginn is their 7th rated prospect.
i like al conin
Good point. His age and contract is an issue too.
deweybelongsinthehall
System though is not great.
Ma4170
Oh he’s a solid prospect… they’re system is top heavy, plus this was his first not even full season back from TJS… as a met fan I’m upset to see him go as he projects well, but obviously happy to have Bassitt even if only for a year
A'sfaninUK
As an A’s fan, Ginn+ for Bassitt is about exactly what we’d hope to get. Not ripped off, but not overwhelming. Decent, but fair. I hate John Fisher forever, the end.
Samuel
@ A’sfaninUK;
Mr. Fisher speaks well of you.
iverbure
A’sfabinUK thought the A’s weren’t going to sell? Are you living in reality yet lmao.
YourDreamGM
12 plus years of what appears to be solid mlb starting pitching for 1 year of better pitching I dunno. Pretty fair expected price. If the comp pick is around next year it will make it nicer for the mets. I think the A’s got two nice pitchers. Don’t see them contending cy youngs but very much useful.
A_Cespedes_For_The_Rest_Of_Us
5th or 6th but Ginn certainly isn’t nothing … In some ways I’d say if you rated guys by percentage chance of them being an above average major leaguer Ginn might be #1 in the system… He’s pretty much a lock to be a #4 starting pitcher or better and also a lock to never be an ace
MikeD26
The Mets are getting better, Cohen is good for baseball.
geoffb1982
John Fisher is horrible for baseball and humanity
A'sfaninUK
John Fisher and Bob Nutting have been absolute nightmares for MLB.
Jdt8312
I don’t know if Cohen is good for Baseball, but he’s good for the Mets.
Evil_MrM
Having two competitive teams in possibly the largest media market in the country (it’s still bigger than LA, I think) is always good for the sport, no matter what team you root for.
YourDreamGM
I like him. Somebody needs to give the small markets prospects and pay the the free agents. He makes this site more entertaining. If he could one day get AJ in his front office that would be epic.
Yankee Clipper
Cohen isn’t good for baseball, he’s great for baseball. He’s the McGuire of ownership in this epoch to LAD’s Sosa. If I was Cohen, my sole non-WS-objective would be to make Bob Nutting quit because I spent so much money. Yep, quit, then go home & kick his dog. Then it would be to embarrass Hal Steinbrenner by asking if he wants a loan to buy any players just because I could.
DarkSide830
Cohen is great for the PA and Mets fans. that’s about all.
mattybats1980
Hasn’t Bassitt suffered enough?!
A'sfaninUK
Had to chuckle…
VonPurpleHayes
It’s weird to say this, but I thought the Mets rotation was the worst in the division until this move. Much needed SP depth. 1-2 is absolutely filthy, and now they have reliable 3 as well. 4-6 gets iffy, but has a lot of upside. Mets offseason was historic.
csalko
You pretty much nailed it. I’ve been hoping for this all offseason. 4 and 5 are dicey, but what this move does is put both Peterson and Megill in AAA ready to jump in when needed. That’s 2 pitchers who have had real success at the ML level as fill in options. Even if one has to come up immediately you still have another available. Getting one more mid-rotation arm was absolutely critical for them and they got a good one.
jintman
Megill is a good #6. We will need him
Manbitesdog
Him and Pederson are still massive for the Mets
stevenam
If their #6 and #7 starters are massive for the Mets, they’re screwed. Hopefully they’re useful and not too heavily relied upon.
You Can Put It In The Books
Every team needs a minimum 8 starters to make it through a full 162. The reason Peterson/MeGill are so important is that it gives the Mets some depth – something that has not been the case for years.
YourDreamGM
I like their depth. This secures it up and adds quality. See how it goes and at the deadline they have the prospects if needed.
deweybelongsinthehall
Money and health. what a combination.
rct
The whole thing is health-related with the Mets, probably moreso than any other team in the division. They may be the best, they may be one of the worst. We’ll see. Even with the injuries last year, their staff was better than the Nats and the Phillies.
VonPurpleHayes
I disagree with that last sentence.
rct
It’s debatable with the Phillies, who outside of Wheeler and 12 starts of Suarez, had league average (Elfin and potentially Nola) or much, much worse from everyone else. I’m biased, but would take the Mets 2021 staff over the Phillies.
Not debatable with the Nats, though.
VonPurpleHayes
The thing about the Mets 2021 staff: they were toast in the 2nd half. That’s why I take the Phillies. In 2022, it looks like the Mets by a landslide.
GarryHarris
Worst in the division? Any rotation with a healthy Jacob deGrom, Max Scherzer and yes, Tylor Megill (I believe we will soon see) is pretty good. Taijuan Walker is a wildcard but a good back end. If healthy, Chris Bassett makes the Mets rotation better but even without him, the Mets still have the best rotation in the NLEast. Buck Showalter is one of the best at managing a pitching staff (Don’t blame the pitchers’ performances at Camden Yard on Buck).
VonPurpleHayes
deGrom and Max are studs, but have question marks in terms of durability. Walker is not a reliable #3. I stand by my statement. Without Bassit, the Mets had a huge gap. Likely still better than the Nats rotation, but certainly below the Braves, Marlins and Phillies. Withh Bassit, everything changes. Mets are stacked and prepared to overcome the inevitable injury. deGrom can be limited.
TradeAcuna
They are replacing a pitcher with the same pitcher except Stroman’s ego is replaced too!
deweybelongsinthehall
The Cubs will be sorry. Three years? What a headache I see coming for those in Chicago outside of media folks.
Chicken In Philly?
Not at all. Because he’s outspoken? He’s a solid pitcher who’s a gamer. Mets fans loved him.
TradeAcuna
According to him, they hated him. He is a victim of racism apparently….probably cause he is black..or he just wants to join the party of being a victim.
deweybelongsinthehall
Not sure where you live but those in NYC area had enough of him and he’s a Long Island native. Good riddence.
jim stem
@dewey
I don’t know. Stroman was supposed to the Mets 3, but due to injuries, had to be the Ace. With understaffed Blue Jays teams, he had to pitch against the AL East aces. He held his own and then some in both situations.
He’s not an ace with his stuff, he’s an ace in his own head and overachieved. That takes a little something special upstairs to keep performing above expectations.
He won’t help the Cubs if he’s expected to be their savior and lift them into contention. But that’s not his fault.
YourDreamGM
I like Bassist much more. Not only better but cheaper and shorter term.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I’m a huge fan of Bassitt. Honestly, all the talk was about the Yankees going after Manea in Yankees circles, but my preference is still Bassitt.
stevenam
Stroman was very consistent and solid last season for the Mets. Bassitt is much better than solid. Stroman is a good #3. Bassitt is a 1 or great 2.
Eric D
Nice to see the Athletics getting the sale going. They landed the Mets #5 or so prospect in Ginn. As a Mariner fan, I’m hoping they are willing to deal within the division.
mgomrjsurf
Didn’t have to give up Davis or so on.
PitcherMeRolling
Guessing the A’s weren’t interested in McNeil, Smith or Davis. They’re selling, they probably don’t want MLB players back.
YourDreamGM
A’s like young and cheap. Not interested in arbitration.
Evil_MrM
This is a good trade for both sides. The Win-Now Mets get a solid starter to slot in at number 3, the A’s get a AAA pitcher who can slot in towards the back of the rotation this year, and another pitcher who could be a front of the rotation guy as soon as 2023.
I think the As got quite a bit for a pitcher they would never be able to re-sign.
deweybelongsinthehall
Do you really think Davis, McNeil and/or Smith have great value? The A’s do not want MLB talent that are even more expensive under the new CBA back.
Asfan0780
Jd davis is semi interesting as a hitter despite injury history, terrible defender but could fake it at 3b and outfield or worst case 1b/ DH.. most likely A’s had no interest in his 2 plus million arby contract lol big money
deweybelongsinthehall
Can’t fake in on a winner. He’s not a Devers’ type bat and many Sox fans wouldn’t mind a change of position for Devers. Don’t misconstrue what I’m saying. Love his bat but he has not progressed defensively like Boggs did back in the day.
Evil_MrM
JD Davis’ stock went up after the Universal DH was announced. I don’t subscribe to the belief that players can’t improve defensively, either. If that’s the case, why have any minor leagues? The fact that he can flat-out hit is the important thing. The main reason the Mets would trade Davis is because they’re still saddled with two years of Cano.
Both McNeil and Smith have proven in the past they can hit. Smith is an elite glove, and McNeil can play multiple positions. Both players would be worth a gamble by teams with a need.
54scooterb
JD Davis would be a good fit in Arlington.
joeyrocafella
Steve Cohen 2022 NL MVP
braves fan 138
OMG the Mets made a trade that is actually good for them
davidk1979
Like Bassit but don’t like giving up Ginn.
Lovetron
I really like getting Ginn for Bassitt. Oller likely gets a chance to eat some innings in a rebuild year, hopefully we can turn him into some value a la Lidle
metsie1
Pitching, pitching and more pitching! Yes. DeGrom, Scherzer, Bassitt, Walker, Carrasco, Megill. Very nice staff.
User 2079935927
Scherzer is toast. He couldn’t even pitch in the post season for the Dodgers. Go ahead Mets try and spin that.
VonPurpleHayes
He was pretty darn good before that point. Injuries and age are a huge concern, and I definitely don’t think Max will be good for 3 years, but for this season? Mets rotation is sick.
You Can Put It In The Books
You forgot Peterson. Wouldn’t rule out another move either now or at the deadline.
AndyMeyer
Solid move for the metropolitans
Yankee Clipper
What……..are you doing, Brian Cashman? This is a perfect guy for the rotation. For any rotation.
Captain Judge99
@Yankee Clipper- Ca$hman’s whereabouts are still unknown. I heard he was last seen doing a Captain Morgan’s commercial.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Probably practicing his scaling skills for the Empire State Building next winter.
Yankee Clipper
Boone is carrying Cash in his backpack. I heard someone saw Cash’s head peeking out!
rocky7
Be patient…..possibly working on something big which is why he’s been so quiet….its just his style….all was quiet as well going into the 2009 season and look what he did…..
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, it’s true, Rocky. If you notice, all is incredibly quiet with the prime guys the Yankees were after too: Olson, Story, (Freeman went silent), & Correa (Yuck!). I don’t think that’s coincidental.
YourDreamGM
Yankees rotation is just fine. 5 or 6 guys who can pitch to a under 4 era. No reason to add unless its an ace.
LordD99
Don’t worry, Clip. Cashman generally trades for pitchers with two years of control. Plus, the Yankees were second in the league in pitching last year by Fangraphs, and they’re adding Severino back. They need hitting!
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, true story, L99… I could see a trade deadline deal or two if we really need it. But SS, 1B, C? We can’t afford to wait on those. I know and accept C is not being addressed, so I would be ecstatic with addressing the SS/1B options. Solid team moving forward and puts us squarely in contention for the division with a couple smaller moves (for speed, defense, etc).
hiflew
All that trouble with the lockout and after all is said and done, you still have teams trying and teams not trying. And before anyone says that rebuilding clubs are trying to win in the future, they are still charging full price for tickets and memorabilia THIS year. If they are going to give 10% effort, then it should cost 10% of the price. In years they want to try, then they can charge full price again.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Supply and demand determines ticket prices, not payroll. Why sell 20k tix for $10 when you can sell 10k for $20 lessening operating costs.
hiflew
It’s not all about supply/demand. This is entertainment we are talking about not a necessity. When prices go down for entertainment, demand goes up.
The reason you sell 20k instead of 10k tickets is to build a larger customer base. When you sell double the number of tickets, that is twice the customers for vendors as well as a larger pool of customers for you.
YankeesBleacherCreature
The same principles applies to concession prices. You find an equilibrium. Sinking a ton of time during my youth playing OOTP has at least taught me that much.
YourDreamGM
They have it all figured out for maximum profit. High regular prices for people who just pay the going price. Specials and promotions for thrifty. Cheaper tickets on work days. Demographics. Research. Studies. When people stop buying they will lower prices.
rct
“It’s not all about supply/demand.”
It is 100% about supply and demand. Owners charge what they think people will pay, nothing less. It has nothing to do with payroll. If they could sell tickets for $10,000 a pop while paying federal minimum wage to their players, they would.
hiflew
I meant for consumers, not for owners. The supply and demand for consumers fluctuates due to price for a non-necessity. When prices are lower, more consumers are in the market. When prices are higher, fewer consumers are in the market. It doesn’t work as well for necessities like food or gasoline, but for entertainment it should factor into the equation.
dalejr
Best thing the Mets could do was get rid of Stroman. Love what Cohen is doing!
LordD99
High prospect price for one year but a solid pitcher.
csalko
Pitching is super expensive right now. Look at what these guys who can’t go more than 120 innings or keep their ERA under 5 are going for in FA. Over 20 mil a year. The Mets were connected to other similar guys with 2+ years of control. If Bassitt cost this imagine what the others would have cost.
SheaGoodbye
For a farm system which is still replenishing I don’t love giving up your 7thish best prospect, let alone a pitcher, but I get the logic. The team is built to win now and Bassitt is a good get to round out a strong rotation, assuming decent health.
Plus, Ginn wouldn’t seem to have as much upside relative to our other top prospects. It could be worse I guess.
andyklngnbrgr
With the extra picks in the draft this year, the Mets can fill their system back up.
SheaGoodbye
That’s true.
Evil_MrM
If the Mets can re-sign Bassitt, it’s a good trade for them. Otherwise, it’s an overpay.
PitcherMeRolling
Would’ve rather not given up Ginn. Seems like he could be a stud. But, happy the Mets are still making moves and improving their team.
VonPurpleHayes
The Mets window is now. I think it was a good move.
You Can Put It In The Books
@Von
The Mets window is now AND in the future. Spend above the tax initially while investing $250M+ in building the analytics department. Then continue to spend at the tax, pillared by the analytics team and an already #14-16 ranked system that is getting better. Remember, they have two top 10 picks this year plus two comp picks. I won’t sit here and say giving up Ginn is easy, but it is less impactful within the context of the overall plan. Their window is wide open.
YourDreamGM
Maybe comp pick for Bassitt if its a thing.
justdadamaja
Let’s keep it a 100 here…
They traded JT Ginn b/c they struck out on Gausman and they didnt like Stroman’s twitter account….had they acquired either one, JT Ginn would be up for the Mets in 2 years.
Yankee Clipper
Dude, for real: Stroman or Bassitt – all non-baseball factors aside – Bassitt any day, everyday, no question.
You Can Put It In The Books
“Struck out on Gausman” and signed Scherzer. LOL. The jury is still out on Gausman’s career. He’s put a couple nice seasons together after sucking for his first 5. We’ll see. And you’re correct on Ginn. Stings for sure. Good luck to Gausman but let’s keep it 100, the Mets are just fine without him.
Yankee Clipper
Great points on Gausman, YCPITB, and let’s not forget how he regressed to near his career average in the second-half of the season too…. That’s not quite as encouraging as if he maintained his first-half stats all the way through. If I were a betting man, I think I’d expect something a bit closer to his first five years, similar to his second-half ‘21 numbers, even given his sinker is a bit more advanced now.
jt33nym
Good deal for both sides. Reliable veteran SP for the Mets and two nice prospects headed back to Oakland, especially Ginn
TeacherTim
Damn, it’s rough being an A’s fan. Congrats to the Mets fans. You’re gonna like him.
Lovetron
We just got a really good prospect for a guy who hits FA in one year.. Ginn ranked a bit lower on prospect boards bc he’s been making his way back from TJ 2 years ago. Love that we’re going for quality of prospects and not quantity, bodes well for other impending deals IMO
oaklandfan22
Solid deal for both sides imo
csalko
Ginn is a really good prospect return. He’s a guy I had really high hopes for in the Mets system. Matt Allen is the top SP in the Mets system, but something in my gut told me Ginn would turn out to be the better MLer. We will see I guess.
leefieux
Thank the players who rejected a floor and cap. I’m a Pirate fan. Hey look….the Dodgers just signed Kershaw….AGAIN!
YourDreamGM
The players said they wanted baseball to be more competitive. 250 million vs 50 seems competitive enough.
YourDreamGM
If I was a A’s fan I would like this. Strong potential of 2 starters for 6 years vs 1 for 1. They tried last year and fell short. Division is tougher this year. Players are at time to trade time. Great time for a rebuild or better yet reload.
FSF
If I was an As fan, I would MUCH rather keep the talent, have the team stop pocketing revenue sharing dollars and actually try to improve the team while the window is still open for the post season, especially with another wild card spot available. And continue every year to try and compete instead of trying to fatten the owner’s personal bank account. At least that’s what I would want “if I was a A’s fan”.
Yankee Clipper
FSF: Dude, I can’t believe you surmise the A’s are “pocketing revenue” (yeah, I even did air quotes too) when you know darn well they have to get the public to pay for a stadium within the next five years to get revenue sharing…from……..other…………..wait a minute here. They’re pocketing the….son of a b……. medium-market! What ARE they doing with this money, man?!
leefieux
And, thx to the ‘new’ CBA, this is what small market teams still have to do, while larger market teams like the Dodgers can continue to keep their own, like Kershaw.
VonPurpleHayes
Nah. This has nothing to do with the CBA. Oakland does not have to do this. They just choose to.
Hammerin' Hank
Exactly. The A’s ownership chooses to be cheap, just like Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tampa, and all the rest. Any of these teams could spend much more than they are. But they’d rather claim to be “small market” and rake in revenue-sharing money than spend it on players. Luckily for A’s and Rays fans, their well-run front offices are able to keep them in contention often, despite the low payrolls.
Samuel
@ Hammerin’ Hank;
This is not rotisserie baseball where every “team owner” gets the same amount of capital to spend on baseball players.
The A’s, “Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tampa, and others” take in 100’s of millions of dollars less in revenue each year than the large market teams.
YourDreamGM
Not sure what the new cba had to do with. He was being trade no matter what the cap was. Smart move. You can’t really expect the players to agree to a legit salary cap can you? Or owners to give more of their money away to teams in smaller markets?
NYMetsFanatic
Fantastic move, Mets. I just said earlier today how I’m looking forward to seeing the rest of their trades and FA acquisitions with this new front office and coaching staff. They seem to be very well thought-out and, dare I say, intelligent.
48-team MLB
I expect the Mets to have a huge month of March.
You Can Put It In The Books
Cute.
YourDreamGM
I didn’t love the lindor trade but the extension was one of the worst contracts I ever seen. Thought baez trade was a over pay.
Positive it’s hard not to like Scherzer and Marte. Not without risk but massive talents. Fine with this trade though.
mookiesboy
good trade for both teams
Bill M
B+ for Mets
B- for A’s
48-team MLB
He should have gone to the Memphis Hounds.
Deleted Userr
BTV says the A’s could have done better. I generally agree. Ginn was a fine centerpiece but they could have done better than Adam Oller as the secondary piece.
VonPurpleHayes
I don’t trust BTV, but I tend to agree that they could’ve gotten more. Still a decent trade for both sides, but with such demand for pitching, As could have gotten a better haul.
YourDreamGM
Oller is well into my top 30. No reason he can’t be a backend starter.
jintman
Huzzah!! LGM
bobbyvwannabe
I’m a fan of Ginn. He will be very solid as long as healthy. Already had TJ surgery. Has plus fastball and breaking ball. Needs a change up. A’s fans will enjoy him.
HalosHeavenJJ
This adds three wins to the Angels. Dude dominated us.
Then again, the next guy probably will too.
zacharydmanprin
Complete ridiculousness…cutting salary by trading a starter with one year of control at $8 Million for two starters and multiple years of control at the league minimum. That’s just being smart – it has nothing to do with “slashing payroll”.
YourDreamGM
Are you quoting me?
Mitchell Page
Ok my A’s are getting the ball rolling JT Ginn we were never going to get him in the draft . I’m happy .
YourDreamGM
Much better return than what the got for Semien and Hendricks.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Great get for the Mets!
BaseballLover69
All this work by the mets just to finish behind the braves
Old York
Mets are going 162-0 this year.
BaseballLover69
Hahahaha n im the the president
geoffb1982
If I ever meet John Fisher, I’m going to be going away for a while
Dutch Vander Linde
In my opinion this is an upgrade from Stroman in the #3 spot on the rotation.
warnbeeb
The Mets are going to need this guy since Scherzer’s arm is going to fall off one of these days and deGrom’s is hanging by a ligament.
Wait. Just wait.
You Can Put It In The Books
The rest of the league (and fans) can only wish. This says more about the person wishing for injuries to another human, doesn’t it?
YourDreamGM
I took it as a prediction and not a wish.
warnbeeb
I’m a Mets fan. I’m not convinced either of our front line starters are going to give us 150+ innings. Particularly Jake.
You Can Put It In The Books
I’m predicting 175 each for Jake and for Scherzer, but that will be because they will have some built-in time off. With Bassitt, the Mets now have enough depth to fill-in innings with quality as Carrasco, Walker, Peterson, Megill form an enviable 4/5/6/7 back end rotation. I suspect the Mets will also sign another swingman-type. I like McHugh personally. LFGM
Old York
The Mets dynasty in the making.
48-team MLB
2072, 2074, 2075, 2078
Smooch the Goose Watson
Your team can’t even afford its captain.
48-team MLB
Are you talking about my team? They just won the World Series.
You Can Put It In The Books
Freddie Freeman doesn’t even want to play for you. That says a lot about the ATL organization.
YourDreamGM
Interesting to see how long they keep this dynasty going with all their 30 year olds.
VonPurpleHayes
I don’t see a dynasty. Particularly because some of these guys have 2 years left. Mets are the oldest team in the game,but they are going to be deadly in 2022. 2024 is going to be problematic.
You Can Put It In The Books
Great move… Looking forward to seeing what’s next because they’re far from done making moves!
Redstitch108* 2
Further evidence that the Angels ownership and front office are either cheap or incompetent or both.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Cheap. The Angels know exactly what they’re doing. Their M.O. is to fill seats which they’re very capable of doing all the while using a piecemeal rotation. Attendance is perenially in the top ten. The formula works.
baseball-reference.com/teams/ANA/attend.shtml
zacharydmanprin
So, all the money they threw at Josh Hamilton, CJ Wilson and the money they are still eating on Albert Pujols doesn’t count?
FSF
Weren’t dinosaurs roaming the earth when all that happened?
YourDreamGM
Definitely not cheap. Every 2 or 3 years they try to win the prize for giving out baseballs worst mega contract.
Shawn W.
Kudos to Bassitt for pitching an inning in the 2021 All Star Game after pitching on the Sunday beforehand. He said that it could be his only All Star Game selection, and he wanted the ball.
brian214
It’s so refreshing seeing Dombrowski seemingly sitting on his hands. This would’ve been a nice get but I guess we are comfortable with relying on Ranger to build off of last year and Eflin to come back strong.
1st Braves
2nd Mets
3rd-5th Doesn’t matter, none of them going to playoffs
YourDreamGM
I don’t see Philly in the Mets Braves class. I wouldn’t try to beat this offer. Would go sign a Tyler Anderson and a bounce back guy and see how it goes.
Old York
According to Baseball Trade Value’s website, this wasn’t a balanced trade. Mets won the trade. I guess it will depend if Ginn pans out or not.
YourDreamGM
I think it was fair for both sides. Oakland definitely won. In order to compete they can let players leave for nothing like they did last year. They had to make this move, did the best they could. Mets can still win as well but it is to be determined.
You Can Put It In The Books
Oller is an older “prospect” at 27 years old, claimed by the Mets from the minor league Rule 5. Neither prospect has ever thrown a MLB inning. You can’t possibly judge who “won” the trade until years from now when we see what Ginn turns into. If Bassitt helps the Mets do something special, it will be capital well spent regardless.
jimthegoat
And if the Mets don’t make the playoffs in 2022 they automatically lose the trade even if Ginn and Oller never throw a single pitch in the majors.
You Can Put It In The Books
Your emotions are showing, Jim. Can’t we just hope for a fun season? Sheesh.
outinleftfield
BTV? L.M.F.A.O. Come on. You are not seriously trying to judge real world trade by that POS are you?
jakec77
Great trade for the Mets, really exactly what they needed. I’m a little surprised, I would have expected them to stick to solely using the seemingly endless payroll and tried to avoid moving anything from the prospect pool- didn’t the A’s have any salary they were looking the dump?- but they certainly got good value, even just for a year.
NostraThomas
Well, the seal is broken on Oakland. Took about 48 hours. Let the fun begin!
DarkSide830
STOP
jim stem
As a Mets fan, hate to see Ginn go, but he’s still a big question mark. So I guess this is a prime example of using your minor league system to acquire a proven piece.
This also buys some time for Peterson to start at AAA to build his innings.
MetsFan22
Mets in the NlCS is almost a given
YourDreamGM
They will be in the wild card with the division winning braves.
You Can Put It In The Books
Either way, it’s going to be a fun season.
brucenewton
78-84
2012orioles
I’d hate to be an A’s fan
YourDreamGM
Same here but not because of this trade.
angt222
Not a fan of Mets giving up Ginn.
You Can Put It In The Books
With this news, it appears @MarlinsFanBase turned in early tonight to watch Tucker Carlson and suck his thumb.
YourDreamGM
No Tucker tonight. Perhaps Bongino?
You Can Put It In The Books
Most likely M@GA rally home videos.
MarlinsFanBase
Um, dimwit @You Can Put It In The Books, I was out socially…Something you should try besides obsessing on me with your latest screen name.
And FYI – I’m not a Conservative. And even if I was, I sure as heck wouldn’t follow Tucker Carlson. That’s worse than being a watcher of E!SPN, a reader of Matt Cerrone or believing in Mets Hyperbole.
Yankee Clipper
Whoa! Why politics?! C’mon guys, plenty of good, smart conservatives out there, just very, very, very few in government. But very few of anyone on either side “good” in government or the political title really wouldn’t matter. Look at CA. Look at NY. Absolute disasters. Ugh…..
Back to baseball fellas!!!
You Can Put It In The Books
You’re right Clipper, I stand corrected.
You Can Put It In The Books
deGrom
Scherzer
Bassitt
Walker
Carrasco
Peterson
Megill
More to come…
MarlinsFanBase
Pray that Father Time doesn’t say hello.
You Can Put It In The Books
The Marlins need to hope Father Tommy John doesn’t say hello.
dlw0906
The Mets are getting older and older this offseason. Tbey obviously are going all in to win one for DeGrom while that window is open. I’m not sure that is going to work out. They are getting rid of Brodie’s draft picks. I’m surprised they traded these two. Let’s hope Bassitt is a young 33. Damn that’s a greybeard rotation now.
Adampunk13
At least on NY team making moves underrated pickup
MarlinsFanBase
Not sure how this is an underrated pickup. And now Bassitt is overrated.
jessaumodesto
No one will read this but as usual quantity over quality. The A’s strategy: “get as many guys as you can and hope one of them is good.”
kingbum
Mets will win the division if Atlanta doesn’t resign Freeman, and now should get in the playoffs it’s now in the wild card mix with Philly, SD, Giants, and Cards….I got Philly and St.Louis missing the playoffs but not by much as the Mets might be the most improved team in baseball and San Diego will be healthier. Can still change this madness just began.
Mystery Team
@bum all you Met’s fans say the same thing every year. The season hasn’t even begun yet and you’re proclaiming them the division winners? Let the season start first. You’ll know the season has started because JD Davis and Brandon Nimmo will be on the IL.
outinleftfield
Wow! It didn’t take much to get Bassitt. While Ginn was a top 5 prospect in a very bad Mets system, he was not a great prospect. He is outside the top 100 and not a top 10 prospect in any good system. Oller is a non-prospect.
Yankee Clipper
I hate to ask this question, and I’m nervous typing it: this is a solid trade for the Mets – another building piece to a good offseason, & they’re doing what Cohen bought them to do; where is MetsFan22? That crazy little bugger hasn’t been anywhere on these threads and the Mets are doing everything right. I only ask because he’s radio silent so I’m legit scared for Cohen’s welfare…..& privacy.
jyosuckas
Why be nervous? Too early to tell but the Athletics have a history of developing pitching. See Chief Bender, Eddie Plank, Jack Coombs, Rube Waddell and more recently Zito, Mulder and Hudson
Yankee Clipper
Nope, not about the trade my friend, it’s a good trade, and A’s will do what they do; but, nervous for Cohen. MetsFan22 has been eerily silent on the Boards here. Eerily……….silent.
kodion
I have been unable to confirm that MetsFan22 is Russian …and busy elsewhere right now.
I’m much more concerned that Cohen is getting after it like he’s trying to buy the last Championship before the apocalypse!
jyosuckas
Should be blue and white, green and gold sucks! RIP Philadelphia Athletics
jim stem
Anyone else seeing an issue with an all right handed staff and virtually no left handers in the ‘pen?
I think the Mets swing at least two more deals for prime time left handed relievers. Or maybe add them via free agency. Chapman? Amir Garrett? Watson? Could also try flinging handfuls of stuff at the wall and maybe a guy like Doolittle finds a little left in the tank.
Yankee Clipper
Chafin is still on the market too I believe.
Cap & Crunch
I don’t think Cincy is ready to tap right now, but if they were
Sonny Gray/Amir/ Naquin for JD & Dom has some interesting framework to it for both parties.
Cap & Crunch
So the purge begins
Good value here, I’m always Ok with mid~low market teams doing what they gotta do to survive for a better tomorrow
Their call, but go fast and go hard
A’s will be back in the playoffs in no time per usual with players half of us have never even heard of
Salvi
Oakland had a $62M Team Salary last year. Fourth lowest in the league. This year they need a fire-sale to survive. Too bad CBA didn’t include the dissolving of a handful of teams.
InherentVice
One year of control on a pitcher who’s never eclipsed 157.1 IP in a single season. I wouldn’t give up Ted Ginn, let alone a prospect like J.T. Ginn, for that.
Salvi
You’re kidding right? We’re being punked? Mets gave up their 6th and 24th ranked prospects. Neither is ranked in anyone’s list of Top 100 prospects. A pitcher whose never pitched above High A and a nobody for a Starting Pitcher who produced 4.0 WAR last year. His ERA+ for the last four years: 2018-138, ’19-113, ’20-183, ’21-130. And you think Mets gave up too much? Wow.
Bill M
One year of contract is one of the reasons why it’s a smart trade for the Mets. They’re not burdened with a long term, waste of $$$ deal like they already have with Cano and Lindor. It’s low risk
Bill M
*control, not contract
Mystery Team
Yes the Mets rotation looks good on paper but there are still questions. Will deGrom be healthy all year and has Scherzer recovered from that one extra relief inning that took his soul in last years playoffs? My take is simple Mets gonna Met they always find a way. They are the Buffalo Bills of MLB in that they love to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
30 Parks
Good move. This guy will be even better after learning from Scherzer & DeGrom.
Say Hey Now Kid
How much do you guys think it costs the Mets to extend him?
mookiesboy
15-17 per judging by the recent signings. Hope they do this guy could be our next Rick Reed
Say Hey Now Kid
Wow I haven’t heard that name in a while. He’s from my hometown
stephenooch
Thank goodness for baseball and no salary cap. Unlike other sports where the players are afraid to come here because of the bright lights, a great player can be bought. And even if the team doesn’t win the championship, if they make it deep into the playoffs, the team makes tons of money, which can buy more players. Now, if we can just get rid of the luxury tax! I love it, LFGM.
JoeBrady
The luxury tax doesn’t matter for guys like Cohen. If you pay $300M, then what’s an extra $20-30M? Especially if, like you say, the team is going to make tons of money.
jvent
The Mets shouldn’t of giving up Ginn for 1 year of Bassitt, Ginn and Allan was supposed to be a big part of the Mets future pitching staff.
JoeBrady
Good move by the As, okay for the Mets. I think the Mets are officially in the running for a WC.
Eovaldismemes
you’re going to have alot of to gamble with these new prospects in Vegas baby!