In his latest notes column, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic indicates that rival teams are “asking the Orioles about” outfielders Cedric Mullins and Austin Hays. The veteran reporter cautions that a trade coming to fruition is unlikely, since Baltimore would like to “get a clearer picture of how their rebuilding plan is progressing before considering trades of their better players.”
It’s not surprising that the retooling Orioles are taking a wait-and-see approach with two of their more promising position players. Both Mullins and Hays come with four more years of team control and at ages 27 and 26, respectively, are likely to be in their primes when the Orioles turn a corner competitively.
While the O’s have been willing to listen to offers for Mullins (and presumably Hays) dating back to before the MLB lockout, it has long seemed that the team’s asking price would prove too prohibitive for inquiring clubs. That’s not to say a team in dire need of a center fielder or outfield thump in general won’t step up, but beyond the club control afforded by both players, each of Hays and Mullins is coming off a career year.
In 2021, the lefty-swinging Mullins made a name for himself with a .291/.360/.518 (135 OPS+) slash en route to a 9th-place MVP finish and Silver Slugger Award. Even that 9th-place finish may undercut how good Mullins was last season, as he remarkably played 159 games and served as MLB’s only 30-30 club member. Defensive metrics varied on the breakout player, but most agree he was at least an average defender in center field.
Hays had the quieter season but still supplied above-average production in the form of a .256/.308/.461 (106 OPS+) slash through 131 games. The right-handed hitter also swatted a career-high 22 home runs and 26 doubles that kept his slash line serviceable despite a below-average walk rate. A good deal of Hays’ value last season came from his glove. A center field-capable player, Hays spent most of his time in the outfield corners to generally positive reviews. As an arguably overqualified corner outfielder, Hays racked up 14 Defensive Runs Saved and a 3.1 bWAR in 2021.
Short of an offer that bowls them over, the Orioles are likely to hang onto two outfielders who thus far have the makings of core players. The team could see either player regress in the coming season, which is a very possible outcome given the limited track record of both players. Still, after five very losing seasons and a new collective bargaining agreement that included some anti-tanking measures, the Orioles may look to piece together a winning roster sooner rather than later.
Top prospect Adley Rutschman’s setback notwithstanding, the future in Baltimore looks to be brighter than it’s been for some time. Baseball America tabbed their farm system as the fourth best in the game in their latest farm rankings, calling attention to their five top-100 prospects— none of whom figure to be redundant on a roster with the aforementioned Hays and Mullins. The four-headed AL East monster above the Orioles in the standings may tempt the team to further bide their time and accumulate prospect capital. For the time being however, Baltimore appears set to hold off from doing anything too drastic.
DarkSide830
whichever of BAL’s OF starters will be the cheapest -> Philly
VonPurpleHayes
I love the idea, but don’t really see much in the way of anything BAL would want. I really hope DD has a trade up his sleeve, because I am not liking this Phillies roster at all.
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You guys are overlooking the championship experience that Camargo brings…
Cosmo2
As they should
Questionable_Source
Camargo can offer great championship insights such as: “From what I’ve seen, the key to winning a championship is to never, under any circumstance, put me on the field.”
Bearded Murloc
Agreed. He’ll I’ll even call Adam Jones and see if he’ll unretire.
Check
As a Mariners fan any mention of Adam Jones name makes me cringe
Charles Flinn III
Anytime I hear the name of Chris Davis I cringe!!
ayrbhoy
Check-……me too! Every single time I hear his name! Strangely, the name Heathcliff Slocumb will usually follow Adam Jones name. It’s like they’re joined at the hip- Jones and Slocumb: the conjoined twins of horrendous Mariners trades riding the Ghost ship USS Mariner deep into my subconscious. Taking countless Mariners Wins from a parallel universe along with them.
Charles Flinn III
Yes I feel for you but Bedard was an outstanding talent. He was the best pitcher Balt had since the departure of Mike Musina. It’s too bad he got injured.
The-Two-Germanys
Adam Jones hasn’t retired, as far as I know. He was granted free agency from Orix (NPB) in the fall, and has yet to sign on either side of the Pacific.
ham77
Would love to see Philly get Mullins. Odubel could be the 4th OFer.
Pete'sView
Philly doesn’t have the prospects for Mullins. Philly system is pretty barren; ranked 25th.
Ra
Baltimore would want top end starting pitcher prospects.
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Orioles/Diamondbacks in 2035
bucketbrew35
Orioles will be relevant again within 4 years or less.
Charles Flinn III
The Orioles will no longer be in Balt by then.
Ra
You are deranged.
Bledcam
As a Rangers fan, I hope Texas is inquiring about Mullins. I would absolutely love to add him to our team.
As a baseball fan, I wish Baltimore would hold on to both. Go out and shock the world by signing Correa. Build a really solid foundation of Rutschman, Mullins, Correa, Mountcastle, etc. Orioles fans deserve a good team.
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Braves/Rangers would be epic.
Jim Carter
The Orioles aren’t signing anyone of note. This Correa thing is a laugh.
iverbure
And they shouldn’t, if your gm can’t draft good enough while drafting at the top of the draft he can’t develop enough talent for you to win anyway. Teams like orioles who are last place don’t ever need to sign a free agent for more than a year until the farm produces enough talent to be competitive.
Charles Flinn III
They can’t sign any real players just cast offs and minor leaguers. Nothing against them but what a train wreck Duquette and Buck left behind.
Milwaukee-2208
Baltimore.
The forever rebuild continues.
eric e.
It’s been 3 years of a rebuild that was said to take 4-5 full seasons. This is common, and how rebuilds work.
preauto
Unless you are the Cubs.
Dutch Vander Linde
Stop making them suffer and trade them already.
manos
So after years of rebuilding you finally have a good couple of pieces and you’re going to move them? At some point this needs to stop being called a rebuild. A rebuild implies youre going to build back up to being a winner. They’re just a farm team for the rest of the league.
Charles Flinn III
I’m not sure but they can’t be that stupid. Cedric was awesome last year but he’s revealed a serious health condition. He was hitting around .305 in early August but finished at .279. He may not have the stamina for the long haul. I hope he does well. I’ve never checked box scores to see how a cerain player did the previous day since Cal Ripken, then last season it was Cedric.
RobM
If a team is always in rebuild mode, then they can trade away the random good player, perpetuating the rebuild. Adley Rutschman is already in his mid-20s. Time to trade him too.
Charles Flinn III
Mid 20’s so he has 5 seasons before he’s considered past prime. I have this gut feelin Adley isn’t going to be what they claim. It’s called the Angelos hex.
junkmale
Does anybody else have a dreadful feeling Mullins peaked last season and will never come close to replicating it going forward?
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Here is my prediction…
MULLINS TO THE FISH
junkmale
“That would be cool.” – Dr Steve Brule
Ra
Makes sense; Miami as starting pitchers to trade.
bobtillman
secresatan: That’s my FEELING, but I would hope they give him another year to see what they’ve got. I mean, they’ve been waiting at the altar for Santander forever…give him another year, see what happens.
Neither decision is going to harm your playoff chances.
Charles Flinn III
Yes I do. I mentioned that in another comment.Santander is a rule 5 , often injured minor leaguer. I don’t know why they think he’s going to be so good.
Jim Carter
Yes.
Charles Flinn III
Yes I do. I mentioned that in another comment.
ArmChairGM-
This is just being used as a negotiation tool for the teams that are going after Austin Meadows and possibly Kevin Keirmaier.
No way the Orioles trade 2 young studs that still have 4 years of team control left just as their team is starting to look good. What they need to do it sign some players now.
It might make sense to trade Mullins if they think he will regress and another team is willing to over pay with mlb ready or almost ready talent (multiple pieces)
iverbure
What?
Ra
What the Orioles need are young starting pitching. They have better outfielders on the come within a year or two: Stowers, Cowser, Kjerstad. Smart to deal from your depth and get back what they need.instead of digging in their heels because two good players have four more years of team control
geg42
Hays to the Giants in July
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Incorrect. Hays will end up with the Rays, A’s or Jays.
Ducey
Eh?
bhambrave
How about Anthony Gose to the O’s or the ‘Stros?
geg42
Nice. But I say to the statue of Mays
2012orioles
Love both of them. Really hoping they don’t trade either
Check
As a Mariners fan any mention of Adam Jones name makes me cringe
CluHaywood
This will never happen, but this is exactly the type of player, length of contract and handiness the White Sox need in RF. They have a ton of young talent both on the mound and in the OF to male this deal happen without shaving any major league ready talent, and it would give them a legitimate hitter in RF that they haven’t had since basically Jermaine Dye.
IronBallsMcGinty
I’d like to see Mullins with the White Sox in RF but they don’t have the prospects to pull it off.
Yanks98
Gleybor Torres and Luke vogt for Cedric mullins
bhambrave
Why would the O’s trade a better player for two virtual cast-offs that have fewer years of control?
How about Volpe, Dominguez, Peraza and Gil?
Joseph Gonzalez
All 4 of them for Mullins ? Wow that’s just nuts dude lol
bhambrave
Yep. About as nuts as Voit and Torres for Mullins.
Joseph Gonzalez
I don’t disagree with that
Bruin1012
Yanks98 is obviously just kidding he knows that’s not nearly enough to get Mullins especially since Baltimore I clearly not looking to move them. They aren’t trying to shed salary they would have to blown away to deal him. This isn’t a fire sale.
bhambrave
A lot of times, Yankees fans aren’t kidding about stuff like this. How many times have we heard trade proposals of Yankees scrubs/injured/sent downs for other teams’ best players?
Joseph Gonzalez
You mean like any fan base does ?
Orioles Fan
The Orioles would be fooooooooooools to trade any of these players. The Orioles have a decent offense and they have a lot of pop in their lineup. These players will still be around when the Orioles turn the corner.
Ra
Sounds like you do not know anything about their top prospects.
Three Run Homer
Anyone who thinks the O’s have turned a corner should look at their starting rotation and infield. Even if Adley Rutschman is the rookie of the year, this team is still going to lose 100 games.
bhambrave
I don’t recall anyone in this conversation saying that they’ve turned a corner. I could be wrong.
Ra
But you are not wrong. Nobody said that the Orioles were turning the corner in the comments or in the article. Or anything I have read anywhere, for that matter
Luke Strong
Mullins would be a perfect fit in Detroit.
Whiskey and leather balls
Indians will trade Ramirez, Bieber, Clase, Civalle, nolan jones and tyler freeman for Mullins….because thats how Cleveland rolls
bhambrave
You’d need to include some cash as well.
Finlander
Chris Davis retiring and agreeing to defer payments hasn’t resulted in Baltimore turning a corner, but it should finally allow them a little extra payroll spending money. I like their young guys tons over mirages like Florial, Andujar, Deivi, etc…hope they hold onto them.
Joseph Gonzalez
How are They any more proven than andujar ? Like andujar they both have had only 1 good season so far
CHS O'sFan
But unlike Andujar their “good season” was the last one and each played over 100 games in the bigs for the first time last year. Additionally, they offer average or better defense, something that can’t be said for Andujar.
Joseph Gonzalez
I get that they have defensive value but to say they are already proven as a whole is premature
CHS O'sFan
Hot take: Hays will accumulate more career WAR than Mullins.
sadosfan
Orioles!! the taint of the 4 headed AL east Beast!!
RunDMC
I GUARANTEE you AA is on the phone for Cedric Mullins. Giving up Shea Langeliers meant we didn’t have to give up some of the pitching prospects and I could see a deal around centerpieces Waters/Muller-plus to get Mullins. Not sure if that’ll do it.
bhambrave
I’d prefer Reynolds.
RunDMC
We all would, but he’s gonna cost a bit more. I think BAL is at least (somewhat) realistic for Mullins/Hays. 5.8 oWAR with plus-defense in CF…check. From Snellville, GA…check.
CHS O'sFan
I don’t see Waters enticing Elias as a centerpiece. There’s a decent amount of OF talent on the farm and Waters has too much swing and miss for the power he offers. He isn’t quite the mold of an “Elias guy”. Muller & Harris may be a strong tandem to headline but that might not be appetizing to Braves fans.
RunDMC
Yeah, agreed. That’s why I don’t think it’ll materialize, also.
Ra
Muller and Shuster might do it. Orioles need no outfielders. Top prospect outfielders on the verge is part of why hays and Mullins are expendable
Joe It All
The only way the O’s trade Mullins is if somebody gives them a King’s Ransom. Anything short of that and nothing is going to happen so need to question why Baltimore would trade him.
Ra
Two top starting pitcher prospects would be enough. Miami`s Meyer and Jake Eder would be a fantastic return.
gcg27
Mullens to Miami for a haul of top pitching prospects and one established starter would work for me.. only 1 aaawesome year so far and pitching is needed which Miami has.. Orioles have more outfielders
phillyballers
Odubel, any prospects you want, and a case of first-edition Pokemon booster boxes for Mullins.