In a profile of Mariners president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale outlined the team’s remaining offseason plans, noting specifically that Seattle hopes to add a right-handed power bat (ideally at third to replace the recently retired Kyle Seager) and a left-handed bat in the outfield. In addition to landing 2021 NL All-Star Adam Frazier in a November trade with the Padres, Dipoto already made one of the bigger offseason splashes of the pre-lockout free agent frenzy, inking reigning AL Cy Young winner Robbie Ray to a five-year, $115MM deal to anchor manager Scott Servais’ rotation.
Given what’s already a relatively crowded outfield picture in Seattle (Mitch Haniger, Jarred Kelenic, 2020 AL Rookie of the Year Kyle Lewis, and uber-prospect Julio Rodriguez all figure to see significant time there, as could Frazier and former top-100 prospect Taylor Trammell), the outfielder Nightengale suggests Dipoto is targeting is likely to be of the versatile bench-bat sort. Any of Odubel Herrera, Travis Jankowski, Billy Hamilton, Gerardo Parra, Matt Joyce, or Billy McKinney could come without a significant commitment, and Dipoto might check in on Joc Pederson or Eddie Rosario if either is willing to take on a part-time role.
The right-handed power bat is unlikely to come cheaply, however. The obvious option on the current market is Kris Bryant, and it’s no surprise that nary a report on Bryant passes without a prominent reference to the Mariners. Given how much money Dipoto is known to have left to spend — the Mariners, who have one of the youngest rosters in the bigs, have just under $87MM in salary committed to the 2022 roster (per Roster Resource) — Bryant remains a very live possibility, as might Seiya Suzuki (though he’d contribute to the outfield glut). Trevor Story and (perhaps) Carlos Correa could also be on the table.
The presence of incumbent shortstop J.P. Crawford may be a roadblock to a major move at the position, since Dipoto has repeatedly stated that Crawford isn’t changing positions. The Fielding Bible ranked Crawford as the sixth-best defensive shortstop in baseball in 2021, though both Story and Correa ranked higher on that list. With Story reportedly uninterested in a position change and Correa on the hunt for a mega-deal, neither seems likely at this point barring a trade of Crawford for another piece.
With no other clear upgrade over utilityman Abraham Toro on the free agent market, Dipoto is likely to explore trade possibilities should Bryant sign elsewhere. With the A’s reportedly entering a fire sale, Matt Chapman is the obvious first port of call, though he’ll draw widespread interest and will command a small fortune in prospect capital. Seattle could also look to engage the Guardians on Jose Ramirez, though he’d take an even bigger bite out of the Seattle system than Chapman and is well on his way to an enormous payday when he becomes a free agent following the 2023 season. Josh Donaldson, who posted a solid-if-unspectacular .247/.352/.475 line in 135 games with the Twins in 2021, still has plenty of power and isn’t likely to cost much more than a willingness to eat a substantial chunk of the two years and $50MM (including an $8MM buyout of his 2024 option) remaining on his contract. The 2015 AL MVP could be an intriguing upside play, but he’d be a particularly risky bet for a club hoping to catapult into the upper echelons of the American League sooner rather than later.
Regardless of how Dipoto addresses the loss of Seager — indeed, he could well head into Opening Day with Toro manning the hot corner and reexamine the position at the trade deadline — the Mariners are sure to be a hot pick to take a major step forward in 2022 whenever the season gets rolling. After overachieving in 2021 with 90 wins and a spot at the periphery of playoff contention well into the season’s final week, the young M’s will be expected to contend for this year’s AL West title — particularly if, as expected, Correa doesn’t return to Houston. Should they add another big bat, don’t be surprised to see them picked as a dark horse to win a pennant as early as next season.
Randomguyonline
I’ll say a kris bryant and trade for a paul de young.
dsett75
Why? DeJong is a SS and they seem happy with Crawford there. Which is why they mentioned Story not willing to change positions. Bryant is the obvious target though, for sure.
PiratesFan1981
Trade for CF Reynolds in Pittsburgh 🙂 He is wasted talent for my pitiful Pirates
dsett75
I don’t blame you for saying that…..with Seattle having a top farm system n all, lol. Probably would get the most for Reynolds from them. Pittsburgh should get quite a bit for him if they do trade him.
AlienBob
What do you consider a fair trade?
hoof hearted
Brash, Hancock, Fraley, Sheffield
Brash excelled last year.
Hancock, good stuff+, SP possiblity in question-stud RP to start MLB career
Fraley- some power,walks, fair D-odd man out in Sea
Sheffield- get healthy, decent mlb stuff(20′)- not 100% in 21′
All young and cheap except Sheffield
bob9988 2
I’d hate to do that. I’d hate losing both Brash and Hancock, but I think I’d do itm. That’s probably about what I’d expect a Seattle/Pitt deal to look like if it ever comes to pass.
AlienBob
That’s a lot of starting pitching. I would probably counter with Yohan Ramirez or Juan Then instead of one of Brash or Hancock. But yeah, it would take a boatload of prospects to get Reynolds.
dshires4
I’d do this trade in a heartbeat as a Mariners fan. But we all know one of Kirby or Noelvi will go to Pittsburgh in any Reynolds deal. Which I’m torn in.
hoof hearted
Still have Kirby, stoudt, Williamson, Phillips. Kirby’s not going anywhere, they look at him at a bonified #1 SP. Don’t forget Gerber, coming back from injury.
Remember, Brash was a throw in from SD. He blossemed in Sea, now turn him into a young, good GG, CF’r. Which Sea doesn’t have.
Haniger,Reynolds, kelnic, Rodriguez-BAMM! Oh, and lewis
bhoops
Seattle should jump on this deal if it was offered.
compassrose
Dipoto has made it clear there are guys who will not be traded and Hancock is one. I could see more easily a 3 team deal with Haniger going to the 3rd team. Hate to trade him but he will not have more value than now. Maybe a month or so before the deadline but now is the time.
GeronimoSon
@compassrose Cleveland will be waiting by the phone for the call as that third team…
Perhaps more..
ayrbhoy
Rose- The Ms are not trading Haniger. Thats crazy talk. The team is seeking established impact bats, players LIKE Haniger. The team needs to add power not subtract it.
This article is built around the idea that the Mariners need to replace Kyle Seager’s 35 HR’s 101 RBI’s. The M’s would need to replace 74 HR’s and 201 RBI’s if they traded away Haniger.
I’d love Bryan Reynolds in our lineup- but only if he’s alongside Mitch Haniger.
Benjamin560
If thats all it took to acquire Reynolds, I think Jerry would’ve pulled that trigger by now.
NWMarinerHawk
Jake Fraley is a potential stud. He’s the ace in the hole on this squad. High draft pick, one of the best eyes in baseball and good pop/speed combo. Probably not a 30 steal guy but could absolutely get to 20/20. Good d. He has a nice floor and great upside, and depending on KLew’s recovery he could end up being our 4th outfielder. He deserves better than that. He can play.
SodoMojo90
Except Brash is a pitcher and not an outfielder…
Crimson37
Pittsburgh wants why to much for him. NO WAY YOU JULIO AND MORE FOR HIM.
Al Hirschen
Kris Bryant and Kyle Schwarber to the Mets
Fred Park
@Randomguyonline, I say we just try to get this ugly lockout over with, and then watch Adam Frazier hit for the Mariners.
He bats left, true, but as an all-around player he’ll take our minds off matchups and let one of his teammates start to hit with power right-handed.
You heard it from me first.
Fred Park
To me, this is just speculation.
I think they’ll find their bat internally.
gbs42
MLB Trade *Rumors*…it’s their business to speculate.
bob9988 2
Seattle doesn’t have an internal candidate to address 3rd unless it’s Toro. Even if he becomes the major leaguer hes hoped to be, he isnt the power bat they need. France can’t play 3rd well enough and moving him from 1st would be the only way of opening up a spot for another positional big bat.
bhoops
Where did you read that France can’t play 3B well? He player 3B more than any other position in the minor.
gbs42
The evaluations I’ve read and stats I’ve seen all tend to agree France is at best a mediocre third baseman. Lots of players switch to a less challenging defensive position as they reach the majors.
myaccount2
Where did you “read” that? How about watching it? If you saw any Mariners games this year, you’d know he isn’t ideal at 3B or 2B. He was below average at both spots, defensively.
bob9988 2
Like someone else said, I watched him play 3rd. He wasn’t good. 2nd was worse. He actually plays a pretty decent 1B though.
gbs42
ma2, I live in the Eastern time zone, so watching Mariners games is not that easy. That being said, what’s the difference between “at best mediocre,” “isn’t ideal,” and “below average?” You seem rather worked up about somebody agreeing with you.
ayrbhoy
B hoops- he played there in the Minors but he was not very good at all when he played there for the M’s. Doesn’t mean he can’t get better, he does have an amazing mentor, one of the best INF coaches around in Perry Hill. Look how he handled First!
At 3B though he looked stiff and had limited range, overall his play was a stark contrast to his ex-teammate Mr Dependable Kyle Seager. I remember thinking to myself- “I’m not sure he’s Seager’s replacement; he has a lot of work to do!”
bhoops
France’s “natural” position is 3B. He has played a total of 6 complete games at 3B for the Mariners. His defense wasn’t great at 2B but I don’t think he’s been given a fair chance at his “natural” 3B position at the MLB level. His limited range won’t be as much as a factor at 3B (especially with Crawford at SS) compared to 2B.
ayrbhoy
If anyone can improve his 3B defense it’s Perry Hill.
I’m glad we have 3 guys on the current roster who can fill in at 3B- Ty, Toro and D Moore. Maybe 4 since Frazier is so athletic.
In an ideal world I would like us to have a better defender at 3B though. Matt Chapman would be amazing! His 2 yr contract gives us enough time to groom Noelvi Marte.
crazybaseballgal
Bryant is definitely not a better defender. That’s who most are clamoring for at 3rd. He’s -4 OAA there. I get why people want him for his offense though
CravenMoorehead
Yankees Brian Cashman: “Would you happen to be interested in a lightly used Luke Voit???”
Mariners: “Sure. We’ll offer you cash considerations in the form of Amazon gift cards.”
Highest IQ
Counter offer
Bcash: Google play gift cards and a 20pc chicken nug from mcDs
hoof hearted
IQ,
That’s hilarious
Yankee Clipper
Voit for top 3 Mariners prospects. And they can have Frazier too.
M’s is for maybe
HARD PASS.
Highest IQ
Bcash: Give me hard drop the p and add on in and we gotta deal.
Yankee Clipper
Okay, you can add an extra prospect since you see how much the Yankees are giving away in that deal.
hoof hearted
Buhner any one;)
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
@M’s is for maybe- Nobody wants any of your cheesy prospects anyway.
crazybaseballgal
Lol. Pitchers are always in top command and we are consistently ranked #2 or 3 farm system. So cheesy
bigdaddyhacks
Consult a medical professional asap.
Dutch Vander Linde
Frazier is not on the Yankees anymore
dsett75
They’re talking about Adam Frazier, who Seattle got from San Diego before the lockout.
Yankee Clipper
No, I meant Clint. It was meant to demonstrate the sarcasm in the whole idea since he’s not even in the team anymore. I was getting it out of the way before the 400 people that are anti-Yankees came in and brought it up anyway. But, I must say, for such a horrible suggestion, you M’s fans were were quite considerate in your responses, which I appreciate.
User 2079935927
Cashman-Okay just read off the numbers on the back of the cards before we complete the trade.
Dipototo-Why?
dsett75
If Seattle gets Bryant, they’ll look pretty good, imho.
The_Voice_Of_REASON
They would look like chumps for signing a 30 year old who will never be very good again, let alone great.
hoof hearted
Yep
myaccount2
Why would he never be very good again? He was very good last year by all advanced metrics after everyone critized his 2020 60-game sample and the hole in his swing. Does becoming 30 suddenly make you forget how to play baseball? Because the math shows it matters less than in any other North American sport.
dsett75
At least let Bryant have a bad year first, geez, lol.
deweybelongsinthehall
I’m thinking Bryant signs with the Mets. Cohen’s money talks more than Dr. Phil’s mouth.
TMQ
I don’t know Bryant was borderline elite last year. Definitely showed some serious improvements from the couple years prior. Him being healthy was the biggest contributor though IMO. He has always been a great player when healthy
GeronimoSon
Seattle would look REALLY good if they can acquire Bryant as their LF/3B/DH.. while trading for Jose Ramirez..
Now that would be a helluva a lineup.. and it would not include Julio, Emerson, George or Noelvi.. The Mariners top four prospects would remain intact.. It wouldn’t surprise anyone if Trader Jerry had already lined up a deal for Jose Ramirez before the lockout…
hockeyjohn
Why do so many fans think that they could a a superstar like Ramirez and keep their top prospects? Everyone wants something for nothing. Dream on Mariner fans. Ramirez will be a Guardian in 2022.
ayrbhoy
You beat me to it- I’m a huge Mariners fan who would love to see Ramirez at 3B but I don’t see any scenario where CLE trades him away.
It’s fun to play make believe fantasy GM by throwing out all sorts of trade ideas at this time of year. I do it all the time! Then there is the real world where GM’s need to balance Wins in 2022 with developing future talent. Ramirez is an elite talent you build your team around- you don’t trade those types of players away unless your waiving the white flag on the upcoming season. Something CLE is just not going to do this year.
AlienBob
After Bryant and Chapman Abraham Toro is the next best choice. I am okay with that. Give the kid a chance.
hoyce
Eugenio Suarez Will get him cheap. And hope he bounces back To form. Has huge power and fills a need at 3B
hoof hearted
Not looking for a “hope” kinda player.
Don’t need a power bat, low bat avg, lot of K’s. We had One that just retired
Hawktattoo
Mariners and fans not looking for more hope type players….have had plenty of years and players in that description that didn’t work out.
mlb1225
They definitley need to add another bat. Their team OPS and wOBA were in the bottom 5 of all MLB teams and were 23rd in runs scored. Now they lost 20-30 home runs and 70 runs that Kyle Seager retired. Julio Rodriguez and hopefully Jared Kelenic can prove themselves in the majors, but they need a proven bat.
Sunday Lasagna
The Mariners have one proven major league outfielder, Haniger. All of the “depth” is unproven talent that may or may not yield two other major league outfielders. Toro might be a major league thirdbaseman, and might not. Teams that win pennants generally don’t go into a season with 3 positions being potentially given to unproven talent especially when the rest of the lineup is France, Frazier, Crawford, Murphy and the flavor of the day at DH. Unless the prospects pan out quickly, the M’s lineup scares noone.
Benjamin560
Kyle Lewis needs to stay healthy. M’s could add any combination of Story, Bryant, Suzuki, or Conforto along with another starting pitcher and they could be in the playoff hunt again.
cars
Best thing that can happen to Kris Bryant is singing with the Mariners. Bryant cutting ties with the Cubs will benefit him just as it did for Kyle Schwarber. Schwarber had a really good year after leaving the Cubs.
Yankee Clipper
I did hear Bryant was a good lead. Can he play guitar?
Hawktattoo
Isn’t he a drummer?
Yankee Clipper
Maybe, but that silky-smooth voice should be good with the M’s, out near the grunge capitol.
JimmyForum
Neither player cut ties. The Cubs were the ones holding the scissors.
dave frost nhlpa
Voit for Crawford. Do it.
MatthewLVT17
Yankees would have to add to that. Voit is far less valuable outside the AL East and their short fences
bob9988 2
What world are you living in? Why in the world would Seattle do that?
hoof hearted
Dave,
Carl?
Yankee Clipper
No way, Dave – are you crazy?! Voit for Crawford is sooo lopsided. I mean, Seattle would need to add some SP or something to make it worth it, ya know?
myaccount2
I wish players like Voit would stop being brought up here, even jokingly. He has little value, just keep him til he’s worth actually mentioning again.
Benjamin560
Voit will be Dfa’d within 2 years time.
48-team MLB
They will finish with a better record than the Mets again.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Voit could work. Don’t think they give up Crawford though.
skrockij89
They can always bring back Nelson Cruz.
BuddyBoy
The Mariners don’t have a glut of outfielders. Lewis is unknown what he will provide, particularly due to health. Rodriguez won’t be up until June or so. Trammell hasn’t shown he can play at the ML level. Even if Lewis returns healthy you still have DH at bats if you add an outfielder.
hoof hearted
Recent report is that Lewis is back to baseball activities; 22′ most likely plays ALOT of DH. That would be the safest plan of action this year.
BuddyBoy
Still need an outfielder regardless.
Benjamin560
If Trammell comes out and rakes in Spring Training then he deserves another shot. A lot of talent there just waiting to be tapped into, if he can just figure it out. He plays center and has an infectious attitude. He’s the type of player you root for to be really great.
Mickey777
Trammell for Luke Voit? What parts would need to added?
The_Voice_Of_REASON
Kris Bryant is only going to average around 3 war per year for the next 3 years.
BuddyBoy
More than Seager averaged the past three
hoof hearted
Bryany is not the answer.
Don’t need a long term, older OF.
D at 3rd, we can do better.
Expensive.
Let someone else over pay
If they want a power bat, bring back Nelson Cruz for one year
Cmurphy
Bryant could provide a lot of value to the Mariners. Add him and a low cost LH outfielder and they could be a contender, push them over the cusp they’ve been at. Even if Bryant’s defense starts to to wane, move him to DH. The Mariners did well with Edgar and Nelson soley at DH.
The_Voice_Of_REASON
Bryant is not good in the field and never has been, aside from one season when he was fairly good (definitely not great). And now hes a 30 year old 2-3 war level player on top of that. Kris bryant is not the answer, no way.
hoof hearted
Got to agree with the voice of reason
BuddyBoy
Really? Lock up a spot with zero flexibility while leaving other holes? Hmmm
ayrbhoy
Speculating Biff- the M’s certainly need the type of production the Boomstick brings but they can’t sign a DH. They need the DH spot to rotate Haniger, Kyle Lewis and Luis Torrens. Lewis and Haniger need the DH spot due to their frequent injuries. Torrens needs it because Servais likes his RH power in the lineup- he’s almost certainly never going to be an every day Catcher.
hoof hearted
I agree, but having Cruz back would be awesome.
They are a “rotate guys in/out of the DH spot” kinda team now.
ayrbhoy
“Most likely plays A LOT of DH in 22” – these are your own words with regards to Kyle Lewis this upcoming season.
How does Seattle do that with Lewis, AND manage Haniger, Torrens and Nellie? If Murphy and Cal Raleigh improve their hitting Servais will rotate one of them in that DH spot. Raleigh has shown he has a high ceiling w big time power.
Servais would also need to give his other starters a night off from Defense/the grind once in a while, keep them fresh for a long season, hopefully deep into Oct!
You’re suggesting we sign a RH power bat but only play him in a part-time role sharing the position with multiple players? That’s a waste of resources. The money or trade capital would be better spent finding a position of need- INF or Pitching. I’m a huge Cruz fan btw.
The Boomstick era is over. The M’s may indeed be a “rotate guys in/out of the DH spot kinda team now,” but they don’t need another power hitter to clog that position. The only scenario I can see where they add a DH like Cruz is if every single INF and OF target on their ‘big board’ is n/a- either signed w another team or doesn’t want to sign with Seattle. In other words Nellie Cruz would be a Plan J, K or L target.
Benjamin560
Agreed. Chapman would be the perfect bridge to get to N. Marte.
Edp007
Gawd u should see the power in the right arm of my ex wife when she’s brandishing a frying pan. Used to call her “Ellis” after Ellis Valentine lol
Seattle would be great place to send her lmao
ClevelandSteelEngines
Mariner Could make a trade for Mancini and put France at 3B. The defense might suffer but that shouldn’t be too expensive on prospect capital.
Another option is acquiring Dalbec from the Red Sox. Dalbec naturally finds 3B more homely than 1B.
Yandy Diaz doesn’t have enough power but he gets on base enough and plays solid enough defense.
bhoops
No need for Mancini, especially with Evan White as a fall back at 1B.
TMQ
Lol Evan White isn’t any type of option.
AlienBob
You do realize Evan White has had fewer AB’s than Jarred Kelenic. His were scattered over two seasons. Evan just needs so time at the plate. A stronger lineup where we can afford to have him hitting would do him a lot of good. It is way to early to either sell low or give up on this gold glove 1B.
ayrbhoy
Other Worldly Bob- Exactly! So many fans are ready to give up on young players these days.
It has never been harder for prospects to break into MLB as it is right now. Teams, specifically pitching have so much data on hitters now it’s so hard for these young guys to make that next jump. Up until that point they have never faced pitchers with such good command and breaking balls. Never mind doing it in front of the largest crowds they’ve ever seen! Remember these youngsters are trying to make it in a game where the best hitters fail roughly 7 times out of 10! They’re not avatars- they’re humans trying to deal with constant failure.
We live in a world these days where no-one has ANY kind of patience or understanding. Just look and listen to the people in line at your local grocery store when the queue has more than 2-3 ppl in it! It amazes me how many people lose their s#$+ when they are forced to wait a couple extra mins. I don’t get why they dont choose to go to the store at a different time of day! I digress…..That’s my ramble for the day!
someoldguy
The Twins should gladly give you Sayno for a hamburger on Tuesday..
Dutch Vander Linde
Nick Castellanos
scottn59c
Wants too much money vis a vis his actual talent.
cgallant
Seattle. Where power bats go to die.
muskie73
Except Nelson Cruz, Mitch Haniger, Edwin Encarnacion, Omar Narvaez, Domingo Santana and Daniel Vogelbach.
bigdaddyhacks
Exactly. Dudes comment about the mariners and literally know nothing about them.
ayrbhoy
Richie Sexson, PED Brett Boone and his 37 HR’s and 141 RBI’s, Seager w his 35 HRs and 101 RBI’s, Mike Cameron, Trumbo etc etc
Rick Pernell
Does Luke Voit fill a hole for the Mariners?
houkenflouken
Not at all
Vizionaire
Right-handed hitter? sign Albert Pujols!
houkenflouken
If we wanted a pure DH we would just sign Nelson Cruz. Not happening
mike156
Interesting how quickly Donaldson has come to be viewed as a liability. One of the stories I’d like to see written is an analysis of older players multiyear contracts signed in 2019 for the 2020 season. The signing teams were obviously looking for the maximum production in the first year, which basically got wiped out.
Vizionaire
mariner whose players cannot buy a house not knowing whether they will be traded this season or next!
weekapaug09 2
Can I interest you in a Marcell Ozuna? Should be back this year and cannot imagine him rejoining the Braves.
RobM
I feel like this article should be connected to the Pham article.
As for Voit, the Yankees should hold him. Has a 137 OPS+ with the club and three years of control remaining. His issue was injuries last year, but they have LeMahieu to back him up.
Rick Pernell
I think Voit has been a Cinderella so far but the coach is about to turn into a pumpkin. Watch for the strikeout rate to surge.
The problem isn’t first base. The problem is Voit doesn’t produce enough to hit 2nd and he affords little in the way of protection for Judge or Stanton. The Yankees desperately need a left handed bat.
RobM
Voit’s hitting skills are real, but he’s injury prone and not a great fielder. He’d be a fine DH/backup 1B’man. I agree on the need for a LH’d bat. If Freeman is available, they should go for him, but I can’t see them spending that much money on a 1B’man in his 30s when the let a lefty-hitting SS in his 20s — Seager — go without even an offer. Rizzo can field, but his hitting skills seem to be eroding. I’d be concerned with anything more than a tw0-year deal, but someone will probably give him three.
Yankee Clipper
That’s why I think Olson is the answer, RobM. Olson won’t cost real money yet. He’s got a tremendous glove and lefty bat. Voit can also back him up. But, my only issue with keeping Voit is that with DJL, Voit is redundant at 1st.
Voit simply takes up a roster spot. His offense is real and there will be a taker with the NL DH coming. I say maximize the trade in Voit; trade for Olson; then SS can be pure defense because of Olson’s exceptional bat (IKF, DeJong, Newman, etc).
Benjamin560
I don’t want a repeat of Jesus Montero. No thank you on Voit!
antsmith7
KB welcome to Seattle! You get to re-unite with your buddy Sewald!
AlienBob
Trade for Bryan Reynolds and Matt Chapman. Just do it.
BabyBoyBlueDiamond
Trade for both? And decimate your farm system. Not sure what you’ll get with Chapman’s questionable hip. Not sure I’d trade for both.
muskie73
Is Cincinnati third baseman Eugenio Suarez the 127 OPS+ hitter of 2017-19 (.271/.364/.521/.885, 109 HR) or the 85 OPS+ hitter of 2020-21 (.199/.293/.440/.733, 46 HR)?
Did Suarez give a glimmer of hope with his .370/.460/.808/1.268 line and eight homers over 87 plate appearances in September and October to end last season?
Could the Seattle Mariners take on the underwater contract of Suarez to reduce the package needed in a trade for righthander Sonny Gray?
BuddyBoy
No
houkenflouken
Probably not but it’s not a bad idea. Would not be a top option for the M’s
Benjamin560
Suarez plays in a band box. His numbers would drop off big time in Seattle. I like Chapman as a stop gap to get to Noelvi. Awesome defensively and would be cheaper to acquire than J. Ramirez, B. Reynolds, or M. Olson. Potential 30 homerun guy too.
HBan22
Sign Kris Bryant and trade for Bryan Reynolds. They need to add two above average bats if they really want to compete next year.
BuddyBoy
Can’t trade for Reynolds with the current ask but he’d be a great fit. I’m not trading JRod or Marte for him. Also not trading Kirby ir Gilbert or Kelenic. Now, if they’ll talk about Hancock and DeLoach as pieces , sure
Bruin1012
Going to take at least one of the untouchables to land Reynolds. Reynolds is already who hope your untouchables become.
BabyBoyBlueDiamond
I think the M’s need to get Bryant and Suzuki, planning that Lewis becomes an everyday DH… IF he is knee is healthy to play on. THAT is their biggest question mark right now. Bryant and Suzuki, along with Frazier and Ray, and this team will be in a good position. Gives Toro one more year to get ready to play 2nd base when Frazier hits FA.
BabyBoyBlueDiamond
C- Raleigh
1B- France
2B- Frazier
SS- Crawford
3B- Bryant
OF- Haniger
OF- Suzuki
OF- Kelenic
OF- Julio Rodriguez
DH- Kyle Lewis (If healthy)
Bench: Toro, 4th outfielder mentioned above, Torrens
SP: Ray, Gonzales, Gilbert, Flexen, Kirby
RF: Castillo, Sadler, Steckenrider, Munoz, Sewald, Giles
2 extra players to slot in somewhere there.
As much as you want to believe Kyle Lewis will be healthy, it needs to be seen before planning on it. Get Bryant and Suzuki… and if you can get Story, then slot Frazier as a super sub and solidify your RP and maybe a third catcher if Raleigh stumbles.
If Lewis isn’t healthy, then a 3 man outfield with the 4th as a DH to rest him each day is a great option with that talent.
AlienBob
You need a backup SS and a long reliever. I think it is too much to expect Kirby to make the jump from AA to MLB when he is going to get a limited spring training.
Benjamin560
Story is you’re backup SS. Dunn, Sheffield, Margvecius, and M. Brash could all be used as long relievers.
Selah Rick 2
Logan Gilbert and Dunn both came from AA to the bigs. Sure if they did it, it wouldn’t be an issue for Kirby.
AlienBob
Both Dunn and Gilbert had way more innings in the minor leagues than Kirby has. Kirby needs a minimum of another 60 innings on the farm.
Selah Rick 2
I get it. Lot of folks saying Kirby is much more advanced than Gilbert and especially Dunn. Kirby might be on the fast track if he has a good spring unless there is still service time manipulation available.
ayrbhoy
Kirby is not more advanced in terms of Minor League experience, he just has better stuff than both of those guys. Specifically, his recent uptick in velo from 2020-2021 made evaluators (like BA) and coaches sit up and take notice. He came into that 2021 season with a really special FB. A pitch that was now reaching 98-99 that he could throw w/o losing any of his pin point command.
He will still need more time to develop. Projection models like Steamer, Zips have him debuting in the 2nd half of this year.
Selah Rick 2
He is special no doubt. Will be fun to watch in 2023. Ray, Kirby and Gilbert at the top of the rotation.
ayrbhoy
Don’t forget Brash and Williamson, unless they are traded they will be fighting for a rotation spot by 2023.
We all know about Matt Brash’s 13.2 K/per9 rate from his filthy wipeout slider- the Pitching Ninja focused on that pitch on his YT channel just recently. However, did you know that Baseball America graded Brandon Williamson’s FB as the 2nd best FB in the whole of the Minor Leagues in 2021? He did that despite an avg velo of just 93 mph. That pitch has ridiculous vertical drop- something like 22” of drop.
I hear Williamson’s name being bandied about in trades. For ex: The Athletic’s M’s beat writer Corey Brock has thrown his name out in multiple articles featuring trade scenarios. I hope we keep the big 6’6” LHP – he had 153 K/o’s in 98 IP in the Minor Leagues last year!! You did not misread that. Take a minute to digest that 14.0 K/9 ratio- that K/per9 is absolutely incredible for a SP. We need another LHP like that in our rotation, please don’t trade him JD. We don’t want to regret that trade like we did with the Big Papi trade, or the Varitek and Derek Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb trade!
Benjamin560
Perfect
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The one that intrigues me is Joc Peterson he’s hungry reminds me of Bhuner
cubfanforever
Except that Peterson is a left handed power bat.
Benjamin560
Which the M’s need
Dexxter
Perhaps a slightly used Randall Grichuk would interest them?
Definitely hits for power and can play some defense too.
We’ll take a depth reliever please.
NWMarinerHawk
Ewww.
AlienBob
How about RP Penn Murfee for Grichuk?
AlienBob
Here is what I am expecting from the current guys.
Mitch Hanniger AB 500 HR 35 RBI 95 250/350/450
Jarred Kelenic AB 500 HR 22 RBI 75 225/330/400
Ty France AB 500 HR HR 20 RBI 75 280/350/450
Abraham Toro AB 450 HR 20 RBI 60 250/350/400
Adam Frazier AB 450 HR 10 RBI 40 300/380/350
JP Crawford AB 550 HR 10 RBI 50 280/350/375
Louis Torrens AB 350 HR 15 RBI 50 250/300/400
Thomas Murphy AB 300 HR 15 RBI 40 270/300/350
Cal Raleigh AB 300 HR 15 RBI 50 225/330/400
Kyle Lewis AB 250 HR 15 RBI 40 250/350/450
Evan White AB 200 HR 10 RBI 30 200/300/350
Then add some of:
Julio Rodriquez AB 350 HR 15 RBI 50 250/300/350
Seiya Suzuki AB 400 HR 25 RBI 75 275/350/400
Kris Bryant AB 500 HR 25 RBI 75 275/350/450
mlbnyyfan
Judge to Seattle for Torrens and pitching prospects.
BabyBoyBlueDiamond
Where do you see Murphy hitting .270?
ayrbhoy
If you look at his stats in BR you can see he already did that in 2019- his final line that year was .273/.324/.535 that’s an OPS of .858 btw. OPS+ of 128. 2.6 bWAR in 75g. So he is certainly capable of that .270/300/350
Weighed
Forget right handed bats… I would like Matt Olsen.
Other options
Luke Voit
Franmil Reyes
Jesus Aguilar
Josh Donaldson
Marcell Ozuna
Trade for MJ Melendez from KC Royals.
hockeyjohn
Cleveland needs more offense, not less. Cleveland is not trading Framil Reyes.
Benjamin560
Michael Conforto is near the top of my wishlist. Bring him home Jerry. Along with Bryant, Story, or Suzuki.
NWMarinerHawk
I want Kris Bryant.
He and SEAWALL are boys
Make it happen Jerry