The Cubs have had internal discussions about making a run at Anthony Rizzo in free agency, reports Bruce Levine of 670 The Score. Chicago is obviously barred from having contact with Rizzo or his representatives at Sports One Athlete Management during the lockout, but Levine suggests they could put forth a contract offer whenever the transactions freeze is lifted.
The Cubs’ previous efforts at locking Rizzo up for the long term obviously didn’t result in an agreement. During last year’s Spring Training, Chicago made a reported five-year, $70MM offer that the star first baseman turned down. President of baseball operations Jed Hoyer expressed optimism at the time the parties would work something out during the regular season, but a mutually agreeable price point never presented itself.
The North Siders reportedly made a renewed effort at extension talks with both Rizzo and Javier Báez in July, but neither signed and both impending free agents were ultimately shipped off in advance of the July 30 trade deadline. Rizzo landed in the Bronx, with the Yankees sending prospects Kevin Alcantara and Alexander Vizcaino to the Cubs in return. The three-time All-Star spent the final few months of the year with the Yankees before hitting the open market for the first time in his career.
Given that extension discussions between the Cubs and Rizzo’s reps didn’t get across the finish line, a return to Chicago may seem far-fetched. Yet it’s possible Rizzo doesn’t find the kind of contract he apparently sought, at least during last March’s round of talks. Entering the offseason, MLBTR projected he’d receive a three-year, $45MM guarantee, $25MM and two years south of the extension offer he reportedly declined during Spring Training.
That dip in likely earning power reflects both Rizzo’s age (32) and downturn in production over the past two years. After posting a .222/.342/.414 mark during the shortened 2020 season, the lefty hitter put up a .248/.344/.440 line with 22 home runs over 576 plate appearances in 2021. That’s solid production — 12 percentage points above the league average, by measure of wRC+. Yet it falls short of the elite offense he brought during his 2014-19 peak, when he combined for a .284/.388/.513 showing that was 41 points above the league average output (141 wRC+).
Rizzo’s batted ball metrics offer mixed signals on his chances of rediscovering his middle-of-the-order form. On the plus side, last season’s 90.1 MPH average exit velocity matched his personal high, while his 41.1% hard contact rate was a career best. His bat speed still seems intact, but Rizzo has gotten increasingly pull-oriented of late. In each of the past two seasons, he’s hit more than 47% of his batted balls to the right side of the diamond — the two highest single-season marks of his career. Defenses have responded by shifting against him more than ever. Paired with an uptick in pop-ups, that’s contributed to a meager .246 batting average on balls in plays since the start of 2020; during his aforementioned six-year peak, Rizzo sported a much better .295 BABIP.
While the Florida native may no longer be the star he was at his peak, that’s not to say there’s no appeal for possible suitors. In addition to his still-strong exit velocities, Rizzo owns excellent bat-to-ball skills. The former Silver Slugger punched out in just 15.1% of his plate appearances last season. That’s right in line with his career mark and more than seven points lower than last year’s league average. Rizzo also consistently draws a fair amount of walks and while he’s limited to first base, he still rates highly as a defender there. The Cubs are also no doubt familiar with his generally well-regarded clubhouse presence, and he was among the faces of the most successful run of play in more than a century of franchise history.
After trading away many of the most recognizable stars of that run, the Cubs were expected by most to be in for a quiet offseason. Hoyer consistently denied they were embarking on a full rebuild, though, and they’ve already signed Marcus Stroman and Yan Gomes and claimed Wade Miley off waivers from the Reds. The roster still looks short of contention, but reuniting with Rizzo would be a welcome development for much of the fanbase and upgrade an overall lineup that looks lacking. While they’ve already been more active than many anticipated, the Cubs should have financial flexibility to explore further additions. Jason Martinez of Roster Resource projects Chicago’s 2022 player payroll in the $114MM range. It seems unlikely they’ll jump to the $200+MM heights of the franchise’s record expenditures, but there’s plenty of room even before last season’s estimated $147MM season-opening level.
The Cubs would surely like to get another look at Frank Schwindel to see if his excellent showing as a 29-year-old rookie (.326/.371/.591 in 259 plate appearances) is the start of a late-career breakout. It’s widely expected the next collective bargaining agreement will include a universal designated hitter, though, likely leaving at-bats for both Schwindel and a possible outside addition to the first base/DH mix.
None of that is to say that the Cubs signing Rizzo is inevitable, or even especially likely. Front offices discuss possible moves that don’t ultimately come to fruition on a regular basis. And while reported interest in Rizzo has been fairly quiet this offseason, a couple more potential suitors have emerged.
Yankees general manager Brian Cashman expressed a desire to keep the 32-year-old in the fold back in November. With Freddie Freeman still unsigned, the Braves have looked into the possibility of pivoting to Rizzo. Freeman signing and a Matt Olson trade may be the catalysts necessary kickstart the respective free agent and trade markets for first basemen, which have yet to get going in earnest. Whenever that happens, perhaps the Cubs will embark on another effort to have Rizzo on the North Side for 2022 and beyond.
Lloyd Emerson
They gotta have somebody to market on their lame Marquee channel… People aren’t tuning in for Ryan Dempster.
lambeau gang
No, they’re tuning in for Wade Miley and Alec Mills.
Putmeincoach12
Is there a laugh button on here?
Dumpster Divin Theo
Miley Cyrus and Alec Baldwin. Maybe. Others. Not so much
uncle1sock
Hoyer said their extension offer was fair and at/above market value prior to the trade. We’ll see
Rsox
In hindsight it was probably an overpay and most likely no way he gets close to what was originally offered. Perhaps a two or three year deal but he’s not getting $70 million
CalcetinesBlancos
It clearly was. It was a more than fair deal and he’s an idiot for refusing it.
johnrealtime
Based on what? Mlbtr’s projections?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
That does not make him an ‘idiot”. It just means that he read the market wrong and he did not have the big year that he needed to change the numbers.
He might get the 3 years $45 million MLBTR guessed. I am a Cubs fan. If I were the Cubs, even though they will not make the playoffs, I would make free agent Rizzo a “QO equivalent” offer of $18.4 million for one year. Having another former star in the locker room Hendricks, Contreras and the new guys would be in the Cubs budget but they seem like the wrong club to sign him for three years. If the Braves or Yankees want to go three years, then I would still have a day to welcome him back at Wrigley.
Ogie Oglethorpe
Manny, when Rizzo signed that 7 year contract in 2014, he took guaranteed money that was in excess of what he would received in arbitration. But the risk was would the last 3 years of the contract be equivalent to what he would have received if he truly became a free agent at that age. Obviously, it wasn’t. He gambled and lost. The thing he did not count was his skills deteriorating at 31.
Cosmo2
He should have. 31 is when decline hits hard very often. Rizzo seemed to have the same misconception that most fans have: that decline starts in the mid to late thirties. It’s much earlier.
The_Voice_Of_REASON
Right, most fans are delusional about the prime phase. The prime phase is typically over by the end of the age 28 season, yet many many people still think it lasts until 32 or something ridiculous like that. And all bets are off at 30+. Even if a player is still good/great at 30+, the production could fall off a cliff any given year at that point.
Dogbone
Manny – Bingo, I think your suggestion is exactly what the Cubs should do. It’s very fair to both sides. $18.5 is definitely more than Rizzo gets on average from anyone. And I really don’t think he’d get 3 guaranteed years from anyone at a solid AAV.
And considering how little Ricketts has spent on payroll, this wouldn’t break him, and might even buy himself a little good will. Just so they don’t trade – or take any AB’s away from Frank Schwindel. Frankie IS the man!
gbs42
If players are most productive in their 20s, they should get paid more in their 20s. Seems like something worth fighting for with the new CBA.
stan lee the manly
There were plenty of rumors last year that Rizzo can’t stand Hoyer, so it may not have anything at all to do with the money.
JoeBrady
Rizzo can’t stand Hoyer, so it may not have anything at all to do with the money.
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It has almost everything to do with money. Hoyer offered more money to Rizzo, Bryant and Baez than they will make on the open market. While nothing should’ve been said by either side, Rizzo was blaming Hoyer for allowing him, Bryant and Baez to leave, even though all three players would’ve made more money had they taken Hoyer’s offer.
Rsox
I’m sure many players can’t stand some GM’s or assistants but at the end of the day they play for the money, not the guy making phone calls in the office
stan lee the manly
Unless it’s important to them that they don’t. Fans tend to treat players like commodities that can be bought or sold and they completely forget that they are people too. It is incredibly common for people to turn down a job offer because they don’t want to work for the boss or they don’t agree with leaderships vision.
CleaverGreene
It appears it was more than fair.. I’m a Met fan so unbiased. Rizzo would be an excellent move even w/Schwindel. Stroman is an excellent signing.
mike156
Rizzo was ordinary on the Yankees, and he’s been ordinary the last couple of years. Maybe he signs a nice contract, but it’s also possible he gets one year at closer to $10. Yankees overpaid for him.
Yankee-4-Lifer 75
I totally disagree. Rizzo gets close to $15 million a year for 2 or 3 years. I think a reunion with the Cubs would be perfect for both parties. The Yankees gave up a lot for him, because they didn’t have to pay any of the remainder of his contract last season.
VegasSDfan
I wouldn’t suggest that anyone signs Rizzo. For longer than 2 years. It’s the end for him after his 2022 year. 10-12 million per year for 2 years not a year or dollar more.
johnrealtime
1 year 10 million? And you got 3 upvotes?
Cosmo2
Decent first baseman, which is all Rizzo is, are a dime a dozen.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Lol. It actually say one year 10 dollars not $10mil.
bradthebluefish
Why go back for a rebuild? I’d go elsewhere.
CalcetinesBlancos
Because literally nobody else cares about him.
Lloyd Emerson
You are actually basically totally and literally wrong.
Cosmo2
Because he’s not that good, not in high demand and the Cubs might not be that bad next year.
CleaverGreene
They shouldn’t be bad at all. Rizzo and a few pitchers and they are competitive until July. I don’t see any Grade A++ teams in that division.
midway_monster85
I’d rather take Hosmer off the Padres hands and bring back a prospect or two
VegasSDfan
Hosmer hits better,the downside is his defense is below average.
Hello, Newman
Hosmer hits better than Rizzo??
Ohh, you just happen to be a Pad fan too.
lol, California dreamin
JoeBrady
VegasSDfan
Hosmer hits better,
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I’m curious to see what you base this on.
Cosmo2
First base defense doesn’t move the needle, it’s not important enough. But Rizzo is a much better hitter than Hosmer.
midway_monster85
It’s not about who’s better it’s about filling a roster spot. The Cubs likely won’t be very good the next few years. If the Padres are willing to cough up a prospect or two as a salary dump that would be the best move the Cubs could make for the future of your team
johnrealtime
60 million dollars is a hell of a lot of money for a prospect or two
midway_monster85
Their payroll is less than half of what it was when they were a contender that 60 mil will just go into the owners pockets. Not to mention Rizzo would probably cost 50 mil so yeah I’d rather take the prospects and hope for a better future because of it.
jessaumodesto
Man could You imagine how good they would be if he was on the Cubs?
junkyard
We’re getting the band back together. We’ve on a mission from God. It’s dark and we’re wearing sunglasses. Schwarbryzzo!
muskie73
FWIW Steamer projects 2022 wRC+ of 122 for Anthony Rizzo and 114 for Kris Bryant. ZiPS projects 2022 OPS+ of 123 for Rizzo and 119 for Bryant.
Steamer projects 2022 WAR of 2.5 in 138 games for Rizzo and 2.7 in 139 games for Bryant. ZiPS projects 2022 WAR 2.7 in 552 plate appearances for Rizzo and a 2022 WAR of 3.1 in 590 plate appearances for Bryant.
MLB Trade Rumors projects a three-year, $45 million contract for Rizzo and a six-year, $160 million contract for Bryant, who is two-year-a-half years younger than Rizzo,
Would a team be better off giving Rizzo an AAV of $15 million through his age 34 season or giving Bryant an AAV of $26+ million through his age 35 season?
Deadguy
I like Rizzo over Bryant, but Bryant can play Outfield and 3rd, Rizzo plays only first or DH, DH is a waste of his glove though. Bryant wins in the accolades category as well, that’s what your paying for as a part of the “great bargin” Bryant has slightly more bargaining power than Rizzo
Cosmo2
Neither. This just shows how incredibly overrated Bryant is. His ability to fake it in left or right field adds little value at all.
The_Voice_Of_REASON
Right. ‘Plays multiple positions’. Just doesn’t play them well. His skill set in that area is completely overrated. In fact, he has only had 1 single season of being good in the field- and it wasn’t remotely great. Just fairly good. And given his age, it’s in line to be a terrible signing. Will most likely average around 2-3 WAR for the next 3 years.
The_Voice_Of_REASON
The age and the recent production trajectory. Not just the age.
JoeBrady
I agree in principle. I’d prefer Bryant over Rizzo as a player. And I think $45M/3 for Rizzo is ballpark okay. But $160M/6 for a guy that misses time every year, is a lot higher than I’d be willing to go. Including prorating the 2020 season, Bryant has averaged 122 games over the past four years, never exceeding 147.
Deadguy
Cubs may end up winning out big time here? Prospects and Rizzo comes back for less than 50 Million? Boom
CJML
Honestly, quite a coup. Alcantara is pushing top 100 prospect status. If NL gets the dh a Rizzo/Schwindel combo could be quite good.
brucenewton
He won’t get 5/70 for sure. Sure- handed defender but he doesn’t have much range anymore. Looked heavy last year.
Jimbob 57
Only bring back Rizzo if you can’t make a deal for Hosmer & prospects including Campasano sign Bryant & Story then sign 2or3 relievers and let’s play ball
User 3663041837
2 year deal with a mutual option for a 3rd year is all I see him getting from any team.
Wilmer the Thrillmer
A win win for Rizzo and the Cubs would be 2/30 with a 3rd year option. At least he would top the AAV of the 5/70 contract offer.
I think 2/25 or maybe 3/35 on the open market would be his max at this point. If he gets 3/45 for instance I would be very, very surprised when Belt just signed for 1/18.
Someone said Bryant has slightly more bargaining power than Rizzo. Is that a joke? Bryant will easily top 150mil.
lumber and lighting
Is it just me or is Bryants multiple positions and being a RH hitter would be perfect for the Dodgers.Just saying
MLB Top 100 Commenter
The Dodgers already have a high budget and loads of good prospects. Better to trade for Olsen, shift Muncy to 3B once he is healthy and let Justin Turner shift at that juncture from 3B to DH.
I see zero chance the Dodgers get Bryant, even Freeman is more likely. The Dodgers already signed Chris Taylor for a slight overpay to keep another guy with multiple position flexibility.
Cosmo2
Bryant doesn’t play multiple positions. He’s a poor fielding third baseman who can occasionally play the corner OF spots. Why does everyone make such a big deal out of that? He’s not very special as a left fielder.
Capi
He’s not poor defensively, he’s just average.
ChiSox_Fan
Correct Cosmo!!
He is no Leury Garcia!
cars
I think that if Anthony Rizzo resigned with the Cubs he’s crazy. Why would he sign with a team that is at least 2 probably 3 years from being even competitive.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
(80%) 1. Money
(15%) 2. Fans who will appreciate him even though his skills are sloping downward
(5%) 3. His legacy as a Cub
Cosmo2
Because folks aren’t exactly lining up to sign him at his price. You think he has that many choices?
Capi
According to Rizzo himself, he did have plenty of choices before the lockout.
Hello, Newman
Anthony Rizzo has minimal choices? Lol
Cosmo2
Who is lining up to sign him? He’s a decent hitting first baseman in decline. Lol all you want, but where is the demand? Seriously, name the teams lining up to sign him.
Hello, Newman
So, you’re just going to throw yourself out of the running? Can you imagine if 29 teams, publicly stated, they have not even considered Rizzo? Complete zero due diligence?
I would be ticked if I was a fan of literally ANY team, that didn’t have open communication w/ a top 25 FA.
Cosmo2
You honestly think every team is supposed to be in on 25 free agents at once? That’s beyond ridiculous. Most teams don’t need a first baseman so they’re out of the running right away. As a fan you expect your team to be in on a player your team doesn’t need? Absurd. He’s just not that valuable of a player and most teams don’t have a need for an expensive, meh hitting first baseman. You want diligence? Here it is: do we need to pay for a new first baseman? If they answer is no, you don’t need Rizzo. Not much diligence necessary. Not that complicated. Most teams don’t need to pay for a decent hitting first baseman and they don’t check in on players they don’t need. My team is out. Mets have no need for Rizzo whatsoever.
Hello, Newman
Absolutely, yes to all the above. You need a complete team. If you can sign Rizzo to a well below value contract, and trade Alonso for an ace you wouldn’t??
Maybe we should go to the basics, how do you define a valuable player? What is his price tag, you so surely seem to be aware of? How would you expect to know his current asking price, if you as GM, literally will not talk to him?? You don’t think every single GM is looking for any possible edge on their competitors? What if the league goes to universal DH? Yes, every team absolutely needs “decent hitting” even if he is a role player.
Hello, Newman
And, that’s not to say they would or should trade Alonso. My point is successful GM’s needs to look at any and all avenues possible, in order to improve.
Do you see what the Rays and Braves have been doing? Do you think that’s from being close minded?
JoeBrady
Hello, Newman7 hours ago
I would be ticked if I was a fan of literally ANY team, that didn’t have open communication w/ a top 25 FA.
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Why would teams like the RS or the Yankees have any interest in Rizzo? To be interested in Rizzo, you have to have:
1-An opening at 1st.
2-No competing openings.
3-$15M in spending money.
Cosmo2
You’re being absurd. First of all, Rizzo is not a role player, not at that price. Secondly the Mets already have DH candidates. They simply DO NOT need Rizzo. Sign Rizzo then trade Alonso? So you want to spend on free agency to DOWNGRADE at first base? What sense is that? So you then have no choice but to trade your best hitter for a pitcher? Ridiculous. Why not just sign the pitcher and keep Alonso? When has a team ever had such a backwards, convoluted plan? Ridiculous. Rizzo is not that good, he only plays first base, most teams don’t have the need for him. There is due diligence but what you are suggesting, seriously looking into paying players who are downgrades from your current position- is just absurd.
Hello, Newman
Okay, noted.
Sorry for wasting your time.
48-team MLB
The Crystal Ball has already shown Cubs over Athletics in 2028. Stop trying to alter fate.
stpbaseball
such a strange thing to do
30 Parks
Question – the “log in” button on MLBTR, anyone else having minor issues with same of late?
agrorolm
Rizzo was a favorite until he somewhat trashtalked about the Cubs while he was with the Yankees. I think there is only like about 20% chance Cubs make him any offer. If any offer is made, they will not go with a lowball offer, mostly for showing him a little respect for his legacy as a Cub.
agrorolm
In regards trash talked, I would had expect it from Baez to do somethinhg like that, and as far as I know, he didn’t. In the case of Bryant, he showed a lot of respect for the Cubs fans, and I think that he will be back as a Cub, maybe for his last couple of seasons before retirement.
PutPeteinthehall
After he’s released from the last two years of a Heyward type of contract. I expect Bryant will give his new team about the level of production the Cubs got from Heyward.
CleaverGreene
That would be right now.
The_Voice_Of_REASON
anthony rizzo a shell of his former self- he’s not even good anymore. It’s not worth bringing back a has-been like anthony rizzo for 1-2 WAR. It might- might have been worth having him on the team if he was a Cubs player his entire career. But that of course can’t happen.
angt222
Out of all of the pending free agents that the Cubs had last season, I felt Rizzo would be the one that they retained/resigned. He was the face of the franchise.
Hello, Newman
Not a Cubs fan, but it would be cool to see Kris Bryant/Baez/Rizzo retire as Cubs. Still time, I suppose. When even the big markets chose not to retain the big franchise player, it takes an element of singularity from the game. It’s neat to see players retire with one team.
It’s not my money. If I was a cub’s fan, I would want him back.
PutPeteinthehall
The DH makes it a good signing if for three years or less. No draft pick attached can even give a little more AAV.
mike156
You used the phrase “star first baseman” but the problem for Rizzo is that you really don’t know what type of player he’s going to be over the next few years, so it’s hard to price it. 12% over league average for a 32 year old takes you to where? A high AAV short-term contract isn’t really justified by expectations. And a longer-term contract–three years or longer, let’s say, can easily become league average to replacement over the term.
Fred K. Burke
Spend the Ricketts money elsewhere. Just move on from Rizzo. If the Cubs are interested in a reunion attempt to sign relievers Andrew Chafin or Ryan Tepera.
michael pegarsch
The Cubs will pay Rizzo and then say ‘see we spend money’… it’s laughable . This team sucked when the core was still there. A reunion is nothing but pandering to the loyalist bleacher bums who have no problem wasting summers drunk cheering for the lovable losers
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Hoyer will stand outside his window with a boombox.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I wonder what that genius GM, Al Avila, has planned for today……
HEHEHATE
Rizzo missed his opportunity for a big deal. He wants freeman money and isn’t half the player anymore. I’ll be shocked if he gets more than a 3/4 for 50-65 and even then i think it’s generous. The Dh will help somewhat, but he’s not hitting 100 by a longshot.
JoeBrady
IMO, Rizzo’s issue, and the same with Freeman, is that they think they are a franchise icon (probably rightfully so), and that the team will cave into their demands rather than risk bad publicity.
The_Voice_Of_REASON
anthony rizzo lost any upper hand he (may have) had in terms of the publicity angle when he rejected the contract extension and when he threw shade at the team after the trade. And also to an extent when he became a pathetic shell of the player he used to be.
Dumpster Divin Theo
shocked. Shocked!
Goose
It was mentioned but if the Cubs were smart they would make a deal for Hosmer. They are in rebuild mode. They could get some young prospects back. The contract doesn’t look to be that bad after 2022.
spotrac.com/mlb/san-diego-padres/eric-hosmer-8531/
Cubbiecubster
Getting too old with a bad back to boot. He’ll be lucky to get $10-$12 million per. The only ex-Cub reunion that interests me at all, would be Schwarbs as a DH.
Cubbiecubster
Jed offered more money to Rizzo than he’ll get now. And he offered more money to Javy than he got from Detroit. See ya!
Deleted Userr
Who looks worse: Jed for offering it or Rizzo/Baez for not taking it when it was offered?
chrismilwaukee
I love Rizzo, but just no.
mike127
It was fairly well documented in Chicago that in December that Rizzo made the final move out of his place in the city. I know he’s going to have to take the storage/moving van somewhere and I doubt it will be to a place that he just moved from after being comfortable in for 10+ years. This is just normal Levine dribble with no other stories out there. If they weren’t talking to him before the lockout we know for sure that they aren’t talking now.
Deleted Userr
If the Cubs offer the most $ he’s not leaving $ on the table to go elsewhere.
bykoric
How do you placate a fanbase that is starting to catch onto your schtick of tanking again? Sign their favorite player back. Rizzo ain’t gonna help you win in 2022.
Either get me Freddie Freeman at 1b or go away.
48-team MLB
Why would Freeman go to the Cubs? He wants to win more championships and the Cubs won’t be back in the mix until the back half of this decade.
chrismilwaukee
The Cubs will compete this year with a few more moves. I love that people are so anti cub that they’ll forego logic.
Cosmo2
Looks like Rizzo is as overrated by fans as is Bryant. He’s a first base only decent hitter in decline. Most teams already are getting that value at first base and for those who aren’t, that value isn’t hard to add on the cheap. Who really needs to shell out cash for a first baseman who’s production totals are going to be basically league average?
Dumpster Divin Theo
Cub fans…low bar
chrismilwaukee
How sad that the highlight of your life is to be a Cubs troll. You get your joy (what little there is) from poorly insulting a team and fan base.
Cosmo2
Everyone is sleeping in the Cubs, declaring them already out of it but they really only traded away players who were exiting their primes. They’re not tanking or whatever you wanna call it.
48-team MLB
Even if they’re “exiting their primes”, the Cubs still need a lot to get back into contention. They are the fourth best team in that division right now. St. Louis, Milwaukee and Cincinnati are all better on paper.
Cosmo2
Yea they’re not looking great but they could surprise people. I don’t think they’re all that bad right now.
Franco27
But off-season deals are far from over, so hard to judge until all deals are completed.
CJML
The cubs don’t have long term horrible contracts and plenty of payroll flexibility. You can solve a lot of problems quickly.
48-team MLB
I do think they’ll be back in contention by 2025/2026. I just don’t see them doing much in the next three years.
Franco27
He’s not coming back to the Cubs unless all other options fail. Hard feelings and ego. Personally, I think it would be a mistake for both parties. Move on.
michael pegarsch
Anyone familiar with Chicago media would take anything Bruce Levine says about the Cubs with a grain of salt
SupremeZeus
Thomas Wolfe was right.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Will go where all old dogs go to curl up before they’re put to pasture: Orioles on a 1 yr/8 mill pillow contract. Pillow because it’s a sleepy place: Sammy, Albert, the Dark Knight, etc
chrismilwaukee
Rizzo would greatly benefit from HGH and steroids. I mean now that people are elected to the hall of fame while using them, why not let players utilize their obvious advantages?
Franco27
Maybe because there are huge health risks with both, and always have been.