The Padres and Rangers discussed first baseman Eric Hosmer in trade talks last summer, as part of broader pre-deadline negotiations that also reportedly involved Padres prospect Robert Hassell and then-Rangers slugger Joey Gallo. It isn’t any secret that San Diego has been trying to get Hosmer’s contract off the books, though The Athletic’s Dennis Lin reports that Texas still wanted the Padres to cover the majority of the salary owed to Hosmer ($59MM from 2022-25). The exact numbers involved in the proposed trade isn’t known, and obviously the inclusion of Gallo (paid $6.2MM last season and projected to earn $10.2MM in 2022) was a major factor in the financial elements of any deal.
Since Gallo ended up being traded to the Yankees at the deadline, it remains to be seen if the Padres could revisit a more streamlined version of a Hosmer trade with the Rangers once the lockout is over, with Hassell perhaps included as a sweetener to convince Texas to absorb a larger chunk of Hosmer’s salary. Of course, the equation has now changed quite a bit for a Rangers team that has already added Corey Seager, Marcus Semien, and Jon Gray in a pre-lockout spending spree. While the Rangers still have payroll space, they might prefer to spend on a player who can more readily help them contend in 2022. Hosmer has been roughly a league-average hitter over his last four seasons, and Texas already has a left-handed hitting first baseman in Nathanial Lowe who might be a better candidate to out-perform Hosmer at the plate (and at a fraction of Hosmer’s price tag).
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- The Royals used a bumper crop of homegrown talent to capture the 2015 World Series, and are now trying to reload with a new wave of minor leaguers. General manager J.J. Picollo tells The Kansas City Star’s Lynn Worthy that “I feel like this group is just a tad more deep” than the core of the 2014-15 pennant-winning rosters, and in particular more depth when it comes to starting pitching. Former first-round picks Brady Singer, Kris Bubic, Jackson Kowar, and Daniel Lynch have already cracked the majors, and Picollo cited even two more waves of younger arms that could be coming next. All of this depth could manifest itself as cornerstone pieces of the next K.C. rotation, or perhaps as trade chips — as Worthy notes, the Royals dealt several notable pitching prospects while building their last championship team.
- With Gary Sanchez’s future a constant topic of discussion in the Bronx, many Yankees fans see Austin Wells as a potential Sanchez replacement behind the plate as early as the 2023 season. However, the proverbial “catcher of the future” might not necessarily remain as a catcher, according to Yankees VP of player development Kevin Reese. “Depending on where some of our other guys are, there might be an opportunity to get him some reps (at other positions)….Then we might have to get a little bit creative to keep his bat in the lineup. But none of that is a concern about his catching,” Reese told The New York Daily News’ Kristie Ackert. Wells has been seen as a potential candidate to move to first base or a corner outfield spot even before the Yankees drafted him 28th overall in 2020, and while one AL scout feels a position change will still happen, he credited Wells for improving his throwing arm and his framing. Wherever he ends up on the diamond, Wells has shown signs that his bat will play at any position — Wells batted .264/.390/.476 with 16 homers over 469 plate appearances in his first pro season (at the A-ball and high-A levels), and then turned heads with a big performance in Arizona Fall League action.
ohyeadam
If someone was going to trade for hosmer it would’ve happened already. They’ve been trying to dump him since they signed him
CrikesAlready
… unless there’s a first baseman’s injury that creates a hole in some foolish team’s lineup…
ohyeadam
People been saying that all this time too
Please, Hammer. Don't hurt 'em.
If the Braves end up missing out on Freeman, Rizzo and Olson I could see them maybe taking Hosmer along with prospects. They don’t seem to have a minor league first baseman even close to capable of playing at the major league level. Hosmer sucks but he’s better than any first baseman in their system. It could make sense to roll with him as a last resort and enjoy the prospects that come along with him. I’m sure the Padres would still have to eat a sizeable chunk of Hosmer’s salary though.
Another Yankees “catching” prospect who can’t really catch. This seems to be an ongoing problem for them. Their catchers seem like they either can’t catch, can’t hit or can’t do either.
Rking
I tried to talk myself into the Braves taking Hosmer and prospects but where does the WAR come from then? As defending champs they have to at least try and replace Freddie’s production if he leaves. Hosmer is replacement level. I think you could throw Panda out there for 500 at bats and he would hit as many dingers as Hosmer last year-12
Please, Hammer. Don't hurt 'em.
@Rking: The WAR would have to come from somewhere else. The Padres would have to eat enough money for the Braves to be able to afford to buy another good player at a different position. At this point I figure whichever minor league first baseman the Braves would bring up would probably post negative WAR because he would be so bad. I guess someone could argue that Hosmer’s WAR of around zero could be several more WAR than whoever the Braves bring up. Hosmer definitely wouldn’t be an answer though. He would just be a stopgap until the answer comes up through the system. Hopefully the prospects San Diego would throw in would provide a lot more WAR down the line.
Yankee Clipper
Hammer: Yes, a huge problem with scouting and/or development, probably the former. Yankees have prioritized catching in fairly recent drafts and failed. By all objective accounts Yankees have no starting catchers in their system, at all. Even with the recent hype surrounding Gomez, he’s most likely a backup catcher.
Yankees need to address this issue, but won’t. Hopefully, they don’t keep Wells there just because he was drafted as a catcher. He’s going to 1B or LF.
This ties into my point that they need to trade for a future catcher – so, take on Hosmer with Campusano in a trade & solve the issue they haven’t through years of drafting.
JoeBrady
Yankee Clipper
Yankees have prioritized catching in fairly recent drafts and failed.
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That’s why I don’t like drafting catchers. No stats here, but the fail rate seems enormous. To spend a #1 (like Swihart), and have to hope that he can develop offensively AND defensively seems like a fantasy sometimes. I’d rather pick up a couple of $500k international guys each year and hope we get lucky.
If not, just buy one.
bbatardo
I don’t agree because he was more expensive last year. Right now he is owed 4/60M and last year at the half way mark he was owed a little over 70M. 10M less is not insignificant.
seafordraven
I certainly can’t see how the “overpriced” Hosmer would improve any team
Rsox
Hosmer as a 1B/DH/mentor for a Rangers team that already brought in Semien and Seager may not be a bad move. They still need to add another front line starter to go with Gray (Grienke?) To start making some noise in the AL West
Jimbob 57
If Rangers are going to spend more money, they need better pitching and outfielders first not on over priced 1st baseman . If they could get Pads to throw in some pitching maybe
Jordan09
Rangers are already linked to Kershaw
Deleted Userr
Only by people on this site.
Jordan09
Maybe you should read a little more off this site
Jordan09
You realize teams can’t contact with players ATM, right?
When it was a game.
What makes him a mentor? WY are veterans automatically leaders and mentors? Aren’t there coaches?
JoeBrady
Apparently, every old player, who is overpriced, is a great guy, with great leadership skills. Almost anytime a fan wants to get rid of one of their bad contract, that bad contract always, always contains a “great leadership” clause.
nitnontu
I don’t follow them closely, but I thought the Rangers somewhat liked what they they already have at first base, Lowe. If they get Hosmer, would Lowe most likely go to the bench, change positions, or be traded?
Rsox
One would play 1B the other would DH
Cosmo2
Hosmer is just not a good plan to start at first base or DH these days. Not a good enough hitter.
sdsuphilip
The padres are fine with a Hosmer/Hassell deal for a significant piece (with padres eating some of hosmer’s deal). The suggestion by mlbtr writer that padres could simply look to dump most of hosmer’s deal by attaching hassell to a deal is a complete no go for the Padres.
And yes because of this I’m expecting at least one more year with hosmer
Deleted Userr
You’re not trading Hosmer and getting a significant piece back. It’s not happening.
sdsuphilip
The significant piece would be because of the top 50 prospect, not hosmer
Deleted Userr
They’re still not getting a significant piece back.
padnastikador
How many millions is a top 50 prospect worth? Hassell’s a good looking prospect, but he hasn’t played above A ball. We’re not talking about a sure thing here. If a team pays 30-40 million of Hosmer’s contract, is that not worth a top 50 prospect? I think asking for a significant piece on top of that is a pipe dream. If San Diego were to get such a return, the Rangers would make a good trading partner. Jon Daniels gets fleeced often.
Would Nate Lowe qualify as a significant piece?
truthlemonade
Hosmer is much better against righties than lefties. If he only plays against righties, he can be playable. After this season, Hosmer will have 3 years, $39mm left on his contract, so he will be much easier to trade. He will also acquire 10-5 no trade rights.
Rsox
The 10/5 rights are moot as he already has a 10 team no trade claus anyway
truthlemonade
Uh, ok, and after this season, Hosmer will have 29 team no-trade clause.
stymeedone
Probably won’t matter as Hosmer likely wants out of SD as much as SD wants him out. Not too many situations I could see him refusing to go to. What’s harder is finding someone willing to give up anything of value for him.
Deleted Userr
And the money he is owed is already functionally a full NTC.
Rking
It is hard to see anyone taking Hosmer as he is unplayable as starting first baseman with that slugging percentage. If you throw in enough FV in prospects sure someone would do it. Spot starter and pinch hitter would be an ok role for him now but with 4 more years on his deal he might not be worth a roster spot soon
kcmark
Yankees may be interested as Hosmer’s warning track power plays well in Yankee Stadium.
CrikesAlready
I just wish there were a few other teams with GMs that are as impulsive as AJ Preller.
Sadly, the Padres have the most nutso GM. I’m sure every other team’s GM has scoured their major and minor league rosters for any ex-Rangers they want to dump.
f2288
Rumors were that Hosmer started a mutiny within the clubhouse last season. because of the trade rumors involving him. Team tanked the season. Don’t like the guy. Bad dude.
Ha-Seong Kim
Where did you hear this?
Deleted Userr
Padres need to be able to move Hosmer without attaching any $/prospects before we can even have the conversation about them getting back Joey Gallo (or anyone like him) in the trade.
whosehighpitch
Padres fire sale starting. All that will be left is Tatis by the beginning of next season
Deleted Userr
If that were true it would make more sense to keep Hosmer.
stymeedone
How can we let an article that mentions Gary Sanchez go by without mentioning how badly the NYY need a real Catcher.
Yanks2
I don’t understand the Hosmer hate. He isn’t bad just isn’t worth his contract. There’s always a foolish owner that signs a player to an albatross contract; very few ever work out. E.g. Chris Davis, Jacoby Ellsbury, Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera, Stephen Strasburg
Hosmer to NYY would be a good idea since Voit is wasted money and Rizzo is not signed yet. SD could just eat part of the contract. NYY need a 1B and I think Hosmer would be the better choice over Voit.
Voit is useless because he’s always injured or streaky. Voit is set to make about 6m and that’s wasted money (same could be said for Brett Gardner).
Hosmer has never been a bad player. Just I’d not worth the contract but it’s San Diego’s fault for signing him to that deal. I had the same feeling about that deal as I did the Ellsbury deal. It was a bad signing from the moment it was signed.
How about:
SD gets: Voit, Hicks
NYY gets: Hosmer and only have to pay half his contract
Cosmo2
You are way overvaluing Hosmer. He’s a replacement level first baseman. That is pretty bad. That trade is terrible for the Yankees. Half a season of Voit is more valuable than a full season from Hosmer, and costs less.
Yanks2
Greg Bird would be more useful than Voit
Cosmo2
Voit is more useful than Hosmer. Period. Voit offers value when healthy. Hosmer is REPLACEMENT LEVEL, which is terrible for a first baseman. Voit would at least accumulate some positive WAR while on the field.
nitnontu
Yes, but don’t forget that Yanks2 has included Hicks going to SD with Voit. Voit is probably going to be better than Hosmer, but getting rid of Hicks has to be included in the equation
Pads Fans
As you said, Hicks and Voit are useless. Voit because of injuries and Hicks because he can’t hit a lick and they are expensive. Hicks is guaranteed $40 million and Voit is in his last year of arbitration and will make $8 million.
That is a big no.
Cosmo2
Like, I get the frustration with Voit, but pretending that Hosmer is a better player (why? To spite Voit?) is just ridiculous.
Yanks2
Hosmer has been in the league since 2011 and has posted superior numbers to Voit in nearly every single season
Deleted Userr
And is also owed way more money. Say what you want about Voit but if he wasn’t worth what he was making he would have been non-tendered.
Yanks2
He wasn’t non tendered because Rizzo wants too much money and the Yankees have no one else to play 1b
Deleted Userr
I just don’t see it that way. If he isn’t worth that money you non-tender him then bring him back for less money.
Cosmo2
What Hosmer did years ago doesn’t matter now. Who is the better player, the better value NOW?
billysbballz
What are you talking about? Voit led the league two years ago in home runs, slugging and was in top 10 in other offensive categories. Last season Voit was injured. You must be a Padres fan using a Yankees handle?
Yankee Clipper
I agree with you, Cosmo, Voit is much better. He is offensively much superior to Hosmer. I don’t see a comparison. The only difference is that Voit has had health issues, but when he’s in the lineup, he’s far better than Eric.
Yanks2
Big Yankee fan actually, and leading the league in home runs is trivial because that’s why the Yankees are always first round exits in the playoffs every season due to their reliance on home runs and no small ball.
I think people say Voit is better than Hosmer because their salaries are completely on different ends
metfan4ever
in a 60 game season never is 162 games.
Pickles McGee
Pads you need to look before you leap. Voit is in first not last year of arbitration. He has an explosive bat, would love to see him in Cleveland, injury history be damned. Worth the gamble. And I think Voit is in line for closer to 5-6 million this year.
metfan4ever
Yank2, isn’t Hicks still have close to $50 million left on his current contract.
So why would SD pay half of Hosmer contract and give you Voit. The Yankees probably would have to take Myers/OF too
bbatardo
Most Padre fans will hate this, but I think we should just keep Hosmer. I know the rumors about his clubhouse presence and have seen his subpar play, but there are 2 things I like. 1) The DH in the NL helps a lot and 2) Bob Melvin might have better luck with him than Tingler did.
If it fails then he is only owed 3/39 for the remainder of the deal which is far easier to move than 4/60.
Pads Fans
Hosmer will have 10/5 rights after 2022, meaning he will have full no trade clause, so he could be even harder to trade.
Deleted Userr
@Pads Fans Hosmer will accept a trade if one is made.
Ha-Seong Kim
100% agree keep hosmer as a platoon/part-time DH.
Don’t trade hassell or abrams. We saw what happened when preller dealt trea turner. Don’t make the same mistake twice.
Wish preller would just go out and sign a couple affordable bats, a shut down reliever and a few more SP projects/lottery ticket type guys
JoeBrady
bbatardo
Most Padre fans will hate this, but I think we should just keep Hosmer.
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I’m not a Padre fan, but I agree. It’s kind of the same with Myers. The Padres really don’t have anyone to replace them. It’s not like they have a top-50 prospect sitting on the bench. So, if they get rid of Myers and Hosmer, and eat maybe half the salary, and a few okay prospects.. So that’s $22M savings, which they then have to use to replace Myers & Hosmer.
It feels like there is a lot of room to make a bad situation worse. He had a 132 OPS+ as recently as 2020. There could be some upside there.
That said, I enjoy Preller trades so much that I want to see what happens when Hosmer is traded.
rocky7
Nothing but click bate…..what happened last summer has very little relevance today.
Pads Fans
Lowe is worse than Hosmer on defense at 1B. If you are a Rangers fan, who would you rather have as a DH, Lowe or Calhoun?
Rangers options at catcher are Heim or Trevino. Would you rather have Nola than either of them?
Padres send Hosmer, $29-30 million, and Nola to the Rangers for two marginal prospects, Moeller and Roby. Rangers get a veteran 1B and a starting catcher. The Padres get out from under half of Hosmer’s contract an get a couple of question marks. Win-Win.
Bjoe
Terrible deal for SD
Ha-Seong Kim
Not a win-win. Who will be the Padres starting catcher if campusano isn’t ready? Alfaro? Lol
Ha-Seong Kim
Pads need Nola to bounce back to 2020 form in 22
Brew’88
U mean be healthy?
rolandveras
As a Ranger fan, I’d rather see Calhoun and Lowe than Hosmer. Nola is solid, but he’s not worth being stuck with 4 years of Hosmer, at 30 million, and two marginal prospects. The Padres are going to have to do better than that to get rid of Hosmer. You may just be stuck with him.
User 1104686089
Yepper, the only way I could see this is of we take a serious prospect in return. Nola is a good get but we have a good catching prospect or two. I don’t want any part of Hosmer unless they make it worth our while.
Brew’88
Let’s talk about Hosmer again
PutPeteinthehall
Cubs should send Heyward West for Hosmer and throw in some money. I believe Heyward is owed about 15m less than Hosmer. Throw in another 5 million. Hosmer for 4/64 would at least give the Cubs an average player. Heyward is shot and San Diego can cut him and free up 20 million without yielding any prospects. Right now Cubs are getting zero from Heyward for 44 million. Might as well take on Hosmer for the next four years for what would end up costing an extra 20m total for four years of Hosmer.
metfan4ever
Yank2, isn’t Hicks still have close to $50 million left on his current contract.
So why would SD pay half of Hosmer contract and give you Voit. The Yankees probably would have to take Myers/OF too
Also a lefty in Yankee Stadium could make 12 HR 25. And isn’t Hicks the only real CF the Yankees have
Yankee Clipper
No, Aaron has $40M left on his contract and a club option for 2026 that will be bought out at $1M.
spotrac.com/mlb/new-york-yankees/aaron-hicks-12148…
SpendNuttinWinNuttin
Was hoping this would be about Kip Wells
GoGreen
I believe in Nate Lowe. He is going to be the next Matt Olson.
Brew’88
In the same way that Mickey would be the next McCartney
sergefunction
There once was a guy named Hank Hosmer of whom no one just said “Hank” or “Hosmer” when referencing him. Always it was “Hank Hosmer”. Both names every time from everyone. He remains the only person with that distinction that I’ve personally known.
Hank Hosmer is specifically why I have followed the saga of the unrelated Eric Hosmer.
If not for his bulbous contract, Eric Hosmer by now would have been an itinerant first baseman for at least 7 MLB organizations, and presently would be under contract with a KBO team.
Thus, instead of his alleged sour bitter face Eric Hosmer should be busily kissing the laces of AJ Preller, Ron Fowler, or that Contract Genie he found in a bottle.
Hate the contract but not the player?
Not if post his failed trade Eric Hosmer allowed himself to allegedly sulk and pout, effectively scuttling 2021 for the alleged-contender Padres as had been whispered in the seamier vestiges of fandom that once existed in that alleged town.
Brew’88
Congrats on a truly fascinating post.
CrikesAlready
This is a great idea! Maybe he would do well in an Asian League and they might help cover his contract.
gavilan
fire Preller.
CrikesAlready
Somebody should target Eric Hosmer and:
•Give him a motorcycle with a loose bolt on the fork. Tell him to drive really fast.
•Challenge him to a game of pickup basketball with Eric Weddle paid to give him a chop block going for a layup.
•Have Trevor Bauer’s lady friend take him on a date.
Problem solved.